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| == Misplaced Pages is spreading American propaganda and anti-Islamism. == | |||
| I couldnt help but notice that the page about Abu Ghraib prisoner abuse is accused of having a non-neutral viewpoint.Does this mean that Misplaced Pages does not want people to express their outrage at the gruesome,despicable acts committed by American soldiers?How can the administrators of Misplaced Pages expect people not to be outraged by the horrid deeds committed by neo-Nazi US troops against hapless Iraqis ?Also the page on George Bush has been blocked from editing due to "vandalism".If Misplaced Pages defines anti-Americanism as vandalism then the founder of Misplaced Pages seriously needs to buy himself a dictionary.It is clear that Misplaced Pages does not want anyone to write about Bush's twisted,Fascist ideologies.It is also clear that the Florida based Misplaced Pages is nothing but a mouthpiece for American propaganda.Infact I should not be surprised if Misplaced Pages gives out my IP address to some CIA guys so they can hunt me down and kill me!!!!!Might I just add that this display of anti-Islamism by Misplaced Pages is pathetic and disgusts me no end. | |||
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How can you miss this?
This isn't really much of a topic for discussion, but on February 12, wikipedia failed to notice that it was Abraham Lincoln's birthday. Unbelievable, considering some of the other obscure (yet still interesting) anniversaries they recognized. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.231.142.200 (talk • contribs)
- Thank you for your comment. I'll make sure that gets listed. :) Remember that many of our users and admins are from other countries, and may not have noticed or known this. --Phroziac . o º 04:10, 12 February 2006 (UTC)
- As many trivia nuts will know, Charles Darwin was also born on that very same day as Lincoln in 1809. But I guess one birth day anniversary for 1809 is enough. Shanes 08:06, 12 February 2006 (UTC)
- I'm American, but how much Lincoln do we need? The featured article is the Gettysburg Address! --Nelson Ricardo 15:44, 12 February 2006 (UTC)
- Someone's added Lincoln's birthday but forgot to bold his name. —Cuiviénen (Cuivië) 16:51, 12 February 2006 (UTC)
- Why list Abraham Lincoln's but not Charles Darwin's birthday? I do not know where these anniversaries are drawn from, but perhaps the list can be improved. 198.60.22.24 14:24, 12 February 2006 (UTC)
- As a matter of policy for Selected anniversaries, mav noted that we should put in birthdates etc only as a last resort, when selecting an anniversary. Preference is for notable events, and also observed days for cultures/societies/religions, when appropriate. Thus the date of the Gettysburg address might have been selected rather than the date of Lincoln's birth; he wouldn't have been notable as an infant. Likewise, the date of publication of Darwin's evolution book would have been selected over Darwin's birth date. --Ancheta Wis 15:48, 12 February 2006 (UTC)
No, it wasn't missed. It was removed. Sorry, we don't do birthdays on the MainPage, except for special 100th, 200th, etc. birthdays of very notable people. Lincoln & Darwin will probably be on the MainPage in 2009 for their 200th birthdays. For a list of people born on the same day, please see February 12#Births. Furthermore, Lincoln's Birthday is a redirect to Presidents' Day, which will be on the MainPage on February 20. If the Lincoln's Birthday page actually has some good content, the link may be next to Darwin Day on the MainPage today. But I doubt there will be such a page. Besides Illinois, where is Lincoln's Birthday still a holiday ? Most of the United States aren't observing this former holiday on February 12, so we should just have Presidents' Day on the February 20 on the MainPage. -- PFHLai 17:39, 12 February 2006 (UTC)
- Exactly. The Selected Anniversaries section on the main page is for notable events and holidays. The birth of very few people is notable in and of itself except, of course, to their family. What people like Lincoln did that is historically significant is what we list. Simply being born is not notable ; everybody who has ever lived was born. --mav 21:47, 12 February 2006 (UTC)
Today's featured picture > image?_image?-2006-02-12T08:12:00.000Z">
I propose changing "Today's featured picture" to say "Today's featured image", since several past images (including today's) have been animated, and since picture redirects to image. Jokestress 08:12, 12 February 2006 (UTC)_image?"> _image?">
Winter Olympics section...
There should be a link to the 2006 Wintr Olympics somewhere on the page. The section right now has a little bit about the Biathlon, but I would think a lot of people would want more results or information about the event, making a direct link approprate. 24.224.143.142 20:20, 12 February 2006 (UTC)
- The sub-heading "2006 Winter Olympics" already links to that article. --Malthusian (talk) 23:26, 12 February 2006 (UTC)
There is one website: http://www.nbcolympics.com
Northeast Blizzard.
There should be a article on the Blizzard in the northeast of the United States that happened on 2/12/06. I mean, New York City got a record amount of snow. i think it would be cool to see it on the front page...
Dposse 23:24, 12 February 2006 (UTC)
- Well, it may not be on the main page (yet), but if you want more information on the storm, go here. --G VOLTT 23:31, 12 February 2006 (UTC)
thanks, GVOLTT. I just kinda wanna see that on the front page. Dposse 23:46, 12 February 2006 (UTC)
It's not very 'world news worthy' though, I doubt that anyone outside the United States would be interested. Yellowmellow45 23:51, 12 February 2006 (UTC)
I've seen non-world news worthy stories on there before. For example, the Samuel Alito nomination. Dposse 00:47, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
- However, the US Supreme Court has a much larger impact in world events, no? :^) --Niteice 03:28, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
- Not really, no. --Descendall 05:00, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
Older DYK?
Is it just me, or is the current DYK identical to one we had last week? 70.28.70.5 00:34, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
Historic surrender of the British
Perhaps this would be better worded as surrender of 'British forces' or something similar as the current wording seems to me to give the impression that Britain surrendered to Japan rather than simply a specific Army of the former capitulating.
Also, it should say "that the Old Ford Motor Factory, Ford's first assembly plant in Southeast Asia, built in 1941" instead of "that the Old Ford Motor Factory, Ford's first assembly plant in Southeast Asia and built in 1941." – Minh Nguyễn (talk, contribs) 02:28, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
Dick Cheney
Dick Cheney shooting a man hunter is hardly note worthy news. Sir Jimmy 03:44, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
- The Vice President of the most powerful nation in the world shot a man in the face with a shotgun. If that's not newsworthy, I don't know what is. --Descendall 04:57, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
- That is totally biased. Just because its the most powerful nation doesn't mean every tiny element has to be stated. How is the ACCIDENTAL shooting of a man while hunting good news? It does not effect the public in anyway. --Sir Jimmy 06:10, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
- The vice presidency is not a "tiny element" of American society. --Descendall 16:55, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
- Definatly news! And accidentaly should be changed to 'accidentaly'! Adjam 06:41, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
- Not important at all. unless the person who got shot dies and Cheney is sentenced to jail to something. Do you think all the media around is bringing "exclusive coverage" of the "accidental shot." Agree with Sir Jimmy. DaGizza 06:46, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
- Google News. Search. "Dick Cheney". Shooting story. 827 related. Thus news. End of story. Harro5 06:48, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
- Misplaced Pages is an encyclopedia, not a news outlet. That's what Wikinews is for. This incident is wholly irrelevant to his conduct as Vice President.--Pharos 06:56, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
- Google News. Search. "Dick Cheney". Shooting story. 827 related. Thus news. End of story. Harro5 06:48, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
- Not important at all. unless the person who got shot dies and Cheney is sentenced to jail to something. Do you think all the media around is bringing "exclusive coverage" of the "accidental shot." Agree with Sir Jimmy. DaGizza 06:46, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
WIKIPEDIA IS A NEWS SOURCE. There are entries for recent news. The media directs readers here for recent news. Therefore it is a news source. Wikinews is an outlet for original reporting. Lotsofissues 09:11, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
WIKIPEDIA IS NOT A NEWS SOURCE. It's just an encyclopedia, not a news outlet. The media directs readers here for background information on things related to recent news, but this doesn't make Misplaced Pages a news source. Wikinews is not part of Misplaced Pages, but a sister project of Misplaced Pages. --64.229.229.32 15:56, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
- A news source is a source that readers go to for recent news. Ppl go to Misplaced Pages for that. How is it not a news source? Or how about you struggle for another definition? Lotsofissues 02:31, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
- I guess we can't stop ppl from using an online encyclopedia in ways it is not intended for. There are much better news sources elsewhere. Misplaced Pages is probably as good a news source as Dick Cheney is a hunter. --64.229.176.226 08:15, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
Regardless, the incident is non-notable, even if the figure involved is important. --Madchester 18:39, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
2006 Olympics
According to http://sports.yahoo.com/olympics/torino2006/medals and, ironically, 2006_Winter_Olympics_medal_count, Norway actually leads the medals race with 7. Some quick googling failed to produce an authoritative winnings table. If there is such a source, someone please provide a link. Thank you. --Uncle Bungle 04:28, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
- if you noticed that Norway does have 7 in the medal tally, except the Wiki medal tally is based on gold/silver/bronze counts rather than the total number of medals. Sir Jimmy 04:34, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
- Yeah, who leads depends on how you count. As the 2006 Winter Olympics medal count article states, the ranking here is sorted by first number of gold, then silver, etc, as this is the most widely used way to sort it, and also the ranking used on the oficial Turin games site, http://www.torino2006.org/ENG/IDF/MDL/MDL_Big.html Shanes 04:39, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
- It doesn't change the fact that "leads the medal count" is an inaccurate summary and contradicts the article. --Grocer 06:34, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
It seems to me that most places that sort by Golds first use the term "Medal Standings" rather than "Medal Count" (ie. tsn.ca/olympics). I would also dispute that this is the most widely used method to sort them, as most of the sites with a lot of coverage (CNNSI.com, ESPN.com, NBC.com, CBC.ca, Sportsnet.ca) all seem to be going by total medals (although thats a debate for the medal count page) Priester 06:38, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
- Hopefully Norway will win another gold soon to make this "who leads" dispute mute ;-). But I changed "count" to "standings" on the main page now. Thanks for the sugestion. Shanes 06:46, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
- I noticed it changed pretty quick and thought I was going crazy, and that it may have been that all along :) Good Job! Priester 06:53, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
- Yes, 'standings' is more appropriate than 'counts', but isn't it a bit too early to tally the medals after merely 2 days of competition ? I've replaced it with some results. -- PFHLai 08:06, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
Where is the news on the British troops' abuse?
did i miss it or do ppl think it outdated, since everyone is talking about the british troops' abuse of iraqis. The video is what i'm talking about. there is no mention of it in the fron page. plz explain. i don't have time right now. This is 'important to create this page if it does not exist already. Tx Idleguy 08:25, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
- Also missing are the recently discovered royal tomb from the 2nd or 3rd century BC in Pella, Greece, Ibrahim al-Jaafari nominated for Iraqi Prime Ministership, René Préval leading in the Haitian Presidential election by a wide margin ...... -- 64.229.229.32 16:04, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
WIKI PEDIA DOSNT TEACH ME NOTHING
- So it teaches you something then? Glad to hear it. Yellowmellow45 18:41, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
About the missing news sotries, I think there is a bug or something with the Misplaced Pages servers (i'm just guessing because I've had error messages all day) Yellowmellow45 18:45, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
Glorious Revolution entry
Surley the point isn't that James Francis Edward Stuart didn't take the throne, but that James II (his father) was deposed for being a Catholic. It was only after the death of James II that opponents of the revolution proclaimed J.F.E. Stuart the rightful king. Also Mary was the younger James' half sister, not his sister. A Geek Tragedy 17:37, 13 February 2006 (UTC) 17:15, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
I Want to Hold Your Hand
How cute: Is today's choice of featured article a nod towards St. Valentine's Day? Just as well that I Want Your Sex hasn't been written up to featured standard... -- Solipsist 08:30, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
- "I Want Your What" ???? I begin to worry what Featured Image would be displayed on the MainPage when a Valentine's Day happens to be on a weekend ...... -- PFHLai 22:52, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
- Yes, it was a special request. Deltabeignet 05:28, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
Make this page your homepage
I think we should have a link allowing people to make wikipedia their homepage. It would only need to be minor and down the bottom. --Hamedog 10:05, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
- People can choose do this anyway without the need for a link. Normally under: Tools > Options > Homepage. -LIMA 13:35, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
The Badger Syndrome
The Badger Syndrome, also known as MSS, is a rare disorder mostly in the Southeast Regions of the United States (such as Florida or Georgia). MSS is transfered by prions that exist in the saliva of squirrels.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Venuamar (talk • contribs) 17:22, February 14, 2006 (UTC)
- If you have some more information, and can provide reliable sources about this, please feel free to create an article on the subject. Please be aware that Misplaced Pages has a policy on verification of information, and if a google search for "Badger Syndrome" is any indication, an article on the subject will be quickly deleted as a hoax unless proper references are provided. --Allen3 17:44, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
So why not the small print?
I've been following the cartoons controversy and it is obvious we have no answer to the dilemma of whether we should always publish (right of free speech) or censor (pander to some sensitivities). On the talk page, User:Moocats said "There is no particular approach which will satisfy a tidbit of the free information protagonists (myself included). No magic solution, no special template, no words, no phrases, no pictures........No warning is needed, if a user is coming to this (cartoons) page, they will see the image and leave, or view it and read the article.". Right, almost. However, why don't we add a brief sentence to the existing Main Page line which says "In this English version, started in 2001, we are currently working on 972,223 articles." Add something like "Misplaced Pages endeavours to be accurate and balanced without fear or favour, but recognises that some information which is admired by many readers may be objected to by others". A sort of small print warning that basically says there may be content some readers may object to. Sort of You-Have-Been-Warned in a nice way. Yes, I know we have Misplaced Pages:General disclaimer but I'd guess very few Wiki visitors ever see that page, and even if they did, they wouldn't bother wading right through to the dreary end of it. We need to add something to the Main Page which is brief -- not screeds of legalese -- just a one sentence 'warning'. My 02c worth. Moriori 20:54, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
- The first line of the Main Page says "Welcome to Misplaced Pages, the free encyclopedia". That word 'encyclopaedia' is sufficient warning that there will be stuff that people object to, such as articles on alternative religions, science, pictures of genitalia, etc. --Malthusian (talk) 22:08, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
- OK. Then you have no objection to junking Misplaced Pages:General disclaimer? Moriori 22:44, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
1,000,000th article
- I'm just a regular user, but I was wondering if there was anything going on for the 1,000,000th article. We're getting real close to it.
Richardkselby 01:22, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
- Not sure if anything special is planned for the MainPage, but you may be interested in a little fun at Misplaced Pages:Million pool and Misplaced Pages:Millionth topic pool. :-) -- PFHLai 16:52, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
Sindhi
Dear Sir/Madam, It is mentioned on the page
http://en.wikipedia.org/Sindhi_people
that there are 23 millio Sindhi speakers. Though this figure is much lower than the fatual figure, an other page
http://en.wikipedia.org/Sindhi_language
states that the number of Sindhi speakers in only 19.7 millions. It is contradictions in what the Misplaced Pages states for Sindhi lanauge.
There is an other condradictory statement on
http://en.wikipedia.org/Sindhi_language
that Sindhi is written in Devnagri script. The fact is that the Devnagri script is never recognized officially. Even the govt. of India declares Sindhi as one of its official and national languages in ARABIC SINDHI script. Even if you consider the Devnagri script more acceptable to Sindhi Hindus in India, considering their smaller number (2.8 millions: as stated by one of your pages), the Sindhi article on the page
http://sd.wikipedia.org/Main_Page
must have been place in Sindhi Arabic script. Sindhi practically used as official language in Sindh in Sindhi Arabic Script. The official website of NATIONAL COUNCIL FOR PROMOTION OF SINDHI LANGUAGE (INDIA) provides a Sindhi font for downloading, which is an ARABIC-SINDHI font. This established the fact that even in INDIA, Sindhi is dominantly accepted and written in ARABIC-SINDHI script.
Kindly redress the issue; by placing the articles in ARABIC-SINDHHI script.
Ahsan Ahmad Ursani
- Added section header. --Cam 06:51, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
Iraq War Protests
Under "selected anniversaries": surely the link you direct to February 15, 2003 anti-war protest rather than where it currently goes? --James Kemp 00:21, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
- Good idea. Thank you. I've re-wikified the line to link to the suggested article. -- PFHLai 07:21, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
Bird Flu in Austria, Germany
Nigeria is old news. The Main Page should now talk about new cases discovered in Germany and Austria. —Cuiviénen (Cuivië) 04:28, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
- Please update relevant wikiarticles and post a suggested headline at Misplaced Pages:In the news section on the Main Page/Candidates. Thanks. -- PFHLai 09:00, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
Did you know:
That even in the British spelling of "humorous" there is no u after the first o?Copey 2 06:59, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
Your continued donations...
Look at the data: http://fundraising.wikimedia.org/ongoing/index.php/2006-02/
Conclusions:
- This notice is not an effective means at raising funds.
- Having this notice up outside of the fund drives may have a serious negative impact on the fund drives. The next time it says, "Wikimedia needs your help" the new instinctive reaction is, "Oh, they're always asking for money".
- If the individuals who maintain the main page insist on having this notice up all the time, then, again, just look at this data: http://fundraising.wikimedia.org/ongoing/index.php/2006-01/
The conclusion here is that Jimmy's personal appeal is FAR FAR more effective at raising funds.
- Therefore: if enough people are insisting on keeping this notice up, AT LEAST change the link back to Jimmy's personal appeal until we find something else that is even more effective. Not doing so is only going to have a negative impact on long term fundraising for Wikimedia. Djbaniel 09:08, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
DYK: Puerto Rican Spindalis is the -national- bird of Puerto Rico (not a nation)
Should be official bird, not national bird, as Puerto Rico is not a nation, but a commonwealth of the United States.
The DYK template is protected, and Template:Did you know talk page said that errors should be pointed out here. Maybe it should only be semi-protected. --Pmsyyz 10:08, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
- The article says "national bird", so I'm not revising what's on MainPage yet. You may want to take this up with the author at Talk:Puerto Rican Spindalis. A discussion on this issue has already started there. ... Everything on the MainPage is protected to avoid vandalism. I wish things were different, too. -- PFHLai 16:42, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
- Puerto Rico is a COUNTRY of its own, under US control. National Bird of Puerto Rico is a completely acceptable phrase. --Revolución (talk) 22:02, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
- This is no longer on MainPage as a DYK item. Please be encouraged to continue this discussion on Talk:Puerto Rican Spindalis. Thanks. -- PFHLai 00:10, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
DYK: redirect
If you changed "the Nestor Cup" to "Nestor's Cup", you would avoid every clicker getting redirected to the latter? Won't somebody please think of the servers! 57.66.51.165 11:37, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
- Fixed :-) --HappyCamper 12:34, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
Haitian Elections
AP reports that hundreds of ballot boxes have been found in a Haitian garbage dump, and apparantly there are parts of partially burned ballots and vote tallys in the same location. Given that this makes the elections in the country totally illegitmate, that it is certain to fuel the on going riots, and that there are multinational forces in the country, this probably deserves mention in the news section. --Descendall 23:58, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
- Have fun updating Haitian elections, 2006. :-) When it's ready to be featured at ITN on the MainPage, please post a suggested headline on the ITN Candidates' page. Don't forget to post newslinks at Current events as well. Thanks. -- PFHLai 00:04, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
Another great choice for a featured article
It's not like they picked gas metal arc welding twice already or anything. My favorite part about them is the diversity. 24.243.188.42 04:29, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
Misplaced Pages is spreading American propaganda and anti-Islamism.
I couldnt help but notice that the page about Abu Ghraib prisoner abuse is accused of having a non-neutral viewpoint.Does this mean that Misplaced Pages does not want people to express their outrage at the gruesome,despicable acts committed by American soldiers?How can the administrators of Misplaced Pages expect people not to be outraged by the horrid deeds committed by neo-Nazi US troops against hapless Iraqis ?Also the page on George Bush has been blocked from editing due to "vandalism".If Misplaced Pages defines anti-Americanism as vandalism then the founder of Misplaced Pages seriously needs to buy himself a dictionary.It is clear that Misplaced Pages does not want anyone to write about Bush's twisted,Fascist ideologies.It is also clear that the Florida based Misplaced Pages is nothing but a mouthpiece for American propaganda.Infact I should not be surprised if Misplaced Pages gives out my IP address to some CIA guys so they can hunt me down and kill me!!!!!Might I just add that this display of anti-Islamism by Misplaced Pages is pathetic and disgusts me no end.
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