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Candidate entries

Articles created/expanded on September 27

Black people and crime in the United Kingdom

Created by Christopher Connor (talk). Self nom at 07:23, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

Irving J. Moore

ALT: that Irving J. Moore directed the 1980 episode "Who Shot J.R.?" of the CBS soap opera Dallas?

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 04:39, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

Chesterfield Island stingaree, New Caledonian stingaree, butterfly stingaree

5x expanded by Yzx (talk). Self nom at 04:33, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on September 26

Marilyn McAdams Sibley

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 02:04, 27 September 2010 (UTC)


Bob Mann (American football)

5x expanded by Cbl62 (talk). Self nom at 00:52, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

HMS Valiant (1863)

A three-masted steamship painted black with furled sails. Smoke trails from her funnel.

5x expanded by Sturmvogel 66 (talk). Nominated by Sturmvogel 66 (talk) at 22:16, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

Geography of New York

A map of New York shows the Adirondack and Catskill parks

5x expanded by UpstateNYer (talk). Nominated by UpstateNYer (talk) at 21:49, 26 September 2010 (UTC)


Barbara Scherler

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self nom at 21:24, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

  • In the reference for the hook it says she was the Alto for: Les Grandes Cantates de J.S. Bach Vol. 29 Bach Cantatas: Volume 1 it doesn't say she recorded it all in fact it also says: "The list of recordings was compiled by Aryeh Oron (October 2002 - May 2010) Thanks to contributors: Matthias Hansen (June 2009)" It doesn't say that she recorded the whole Alles nur nach Gottes Willen, BMV 72 with Heinrich-Schütz-Chor Heilbronn. —Ғяіᴆaз'§Đøøм • Champagne? • 10:41am • 00:41, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
  • The reference says: Les Grandes Cantates de J.S. Bach Vol. 29 / Bach Cantatas: Volume 1 / Cantata BWV 72 . But I replaced it by the more general one for the Werner cantata recordings, showing that Vol. 29 contained BWV 72 and BWV 23. That ref is less specific, it mentions a tenor who appears only in BWV 23, but an easy click shows that. I also added Scherler's bio ref to the hook, saying at the bottom that she sang with Werner BWV 7, BWV 11, BWV 23, BWV 30, BWV 39, BWV 70, BWV 72, BWV 85, BWV 92, BWV 102, BWV 103, BWV 137, BWV 150, BWV 180, BWV 200. I picked 72, because that is the one I expanded, smile. Of course she didn't sing "the whole" cantata but the alto solo. In 1973 the soloist didn't form the choir, as in La Petite Bande (s. below). Much less information is available about recordings of that time than about more recent ones, therefore I am grateful for bach-cantatas' precision. And - as said and accepted in a former discussion here - a recording is a recording. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:04, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

Barry Endean

5x expanded by ChrisTheDude (talk). Self nom at 20:08, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

2003 Twenty20 Cup

5x expanded by Harrias (talk). Self nom at 19:48, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

Yamaha XV1900

5x expanded by Thruxton (talk). Self nom at 18:51, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

  • Really not a very interesting hook in my opinion. It's difficult to find anything especially eye-catching in the article, but how about;
ALT1 ... that the Yamaha XV1900 (pictured) is the largest Yamaha V-twin motorcycle in production, and a version of it has a 210mm rear tyre that is the widest on any Yamaha motorcycle?
--Demiurge1000 (talk) 19:09, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

Akan Drum

a wooden African drum

  • ... that the British Museum's oldest African-American object is the Akan Drum (pictured) that was used to "dance the slaves"?

Created/expanded by Victuallers (talk). Self nom at 18:45, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

Note: it originally read "an Akan Drum". I think it should be either "an Akan drum" or "the Akan Drum", and I changed it to the latter. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 01:51, 27 September 2010 (UTC)


Greyfriars, Bristol

5x expanded by Jezhotwells (talk). Self nom at 18:16, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

Sue Torres

Created by Tommy2010 (talk). Self nom at 18:07, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

  • Comment: In the article, the hook fact is sourced only to the restaurant's own website. Plus the hook is potentially misleading - the restaurant was not the sole winner of some "Taster's choice", but in fact was merely recommended in that category alongside three other restaurants. In any case, is it not possible to find a more eye-catching hook? A restaurant being one of several restaurants praised in a restaurant review, is not really surprising or especially interesting in my opinion. It happens hundreds of times every single day. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 19:23, 26 September 2010 (UTC)
Thanks, I was unaware of that. Where did you find that information? Tommy! 20:59, 26 September 2010 (UTC)
To be honest, I know the hook isn't my best but I didn't really know how to make it sound interesting... unless you got a suggestion :) Tommy! 21:11, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

Russian battleship Sevastopol (1895)

Created by User:Buggie111 (talk). Self nom at 17:18, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

Marathon at the Paralympics

Created by Aridd (talk). Self nom at 16:31, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

Jody Williams (chef)

Created by Tommy2010 (talk). Self nom at 15:49, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

Samuel Bowman

Created by Coemgenus (talk). Self nom at 15:07, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

Oxford Castle

A tall stone tower, seen from below, against a blue sky.

5x expanded by Hchc2009 (talk). Nominated by Hchc2009 (talk) at 15:02, 26 September 2010 (UTC)


Aurora mine

Created by Bine Mai (talk). Nominated by Bine Mai (talk) at 14:40, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

Agreed, per WP:RS press releases are not reliable. Smartse (talk) 16:38, 26 September 2010 (UTC)
Changed the ref. BineMai 16:59, 26 September 2010 (UTC)
The cite says it's the largest integrated phosphate mining and chemical plant in the world, but the article and hook state that it is the largest "integrated phosphate and chemical mining plant in the world", which is not quite the same thing. Gatoclass (talk) 17:03, 26 September 2010 (UTC)
Fixed. BineMai 19:05, 26 September 2010 (UTC)
The press release is still used though - it needs to be removed. Smartse (talk) 21:16, 26 September 2010 (UTC)
Where does WP:RS say press releases are not reliable? Gatoclass (talk) 06:34, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

Eastern Intercollegiate Basketball League

Created by TonyTheTiger (talk). Nominated by TonyTheTiger (talk) at 14:17, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

Ankara Güvercinlik Army Air Base

Created by CeeGee (talk). Self nom at 14:02, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

  • Length and sourcing for the article and hook all appear ok, though I was unable to get a translation of the source that most explicitly supports the hook. Any English language sources that would support the hook would be wonderful additions. The wording of the hook ought to be tweaked, because as currently worded it was the first civil airport for a 22-year period. What it probably should say is something like ALT1 "that the Turkish Army's Güvercinlik Air Base was the first civil airport in Ankara when it opened in 1933 and it served as the city's main airport until 1955?" or something of that order. Alansohn (talk) 18:38, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

The Game of Peter Rabbit

Created by Susanne2009NYC (talk). Nominated by Susanne2009NYC (talk) at 13:31, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

James M. Cantor

Created by Crusio (talk). Nominated by Christopher Connor (talk) at 13:09, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

  • Gatoclass is right, but there is plenty of material for suitable hooks in that article. Such as...
Just a few suggestions... EdChem (talk) 16:35, 26 September 2010 (UTC)
I'd go with ALT2 which I've verified. Smartse (talk) 17:53, 26 September 2010 (UTC)
I'd agree with that. One or two of the others are viable but are not expanded upon in the article at all, so the brain study is the obvious candidate. I have struck the other hooks accordingly for clarity. Gatoclass (talk) 18:15, 26 September 2010 (UTC)
ALT2 would also be my first choice, thought I like the hookiness of ALT1. However, I do think we should wait for some input from the article creator and/or the nominator. Perhaps they will see something else beyond what I suggested, or have other ideas - a hook the mentions the lower IQ results of pedophiles, for example, or looks at his gay activism. They might even have a different perspective on the "viability" of hooks. EdChem (talk) 18:22, 26 September 2010 (UTC)
I'll drop the nom a note. Smartse (talk) 21:37, 26 September 2010 (UTC)
  • (ALT6) ... that James M. Cantor, a gay psychologist who has done research on pedophiles, says it is shown that "there is absolutely no association between being a gay man and being a pedophile"?
  • (ALT7) ... that James M. Cantor is part of an activist minority in mental health seeking to legitimize hebephilia as a psychiatric disorder?
Source is Karen Franklin, "Hebephilia: Quintessence of diagnostic pretextuality," cited in article . Quote: " Blanchard and James Cantor serve together on the editorial board of the journal that published the study. Thus, the CAMH group is poised to exert tremendous influence over the revision process for the DSM-5 sexual disorders and, by extension, the shape of forensic diagnosis of sex offenders for some time to come. ...Such legal skirmishes over the validity of hebephilia lend an air of urgency to attempts by an activist minority in the mental health field to legitimize it as a bona fide psychiatric disorder." Few people know what hebephilia is, but the proposed diagnosis will suddenly classify millions of new people as mentally disordered. It's certainly the most interesting DYK fact, and a little shorter than others proposed. Jokestress (talk) 02:30, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
Yours needs to be attributed to be more correct: has been characterised as part... Mine has a nice ring to it. Christopher Connor (talk) 03:09, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
I'm not keen on either of these alts, and I still think ALT2 is a pretty interesting hook - which has the added advantage of being expanded upon in the article where the other alts are not. Gatoclass (talk) 06:39, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

Sanjeevaiah Park

Pied Crested Cuckoo perched on a tree branch

5x expanded by Mspraveen (talk). Self nom at 12:28, 26 September 2010 (UTC)



Ruck machine gun post

  • ... that Ruck machine gun posts were built from prefabricated sections, paving slabs, sandbags and rammed earth?

Created by Gaius Cornelius (talk). Self nom at 12:08, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

Good Times Roll

5x expanded by 28bytes (talk). Self nom at 06:52, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

Mycena acicula, Mycena adonis, Mycena adscendens, Mycena cinerella, Mycena flavoalba, Mycena galopus, Mycena polygramma, Mycena sanguinolenta, Mycena stylobates, Mycena vitilis

slender mushroom with long thin yellowish stem and reddish-orange cap.

  • Comment: All articles except for the newly-created Mycena stylobates are 5x expansions. Hook should be easily verifiable by checking the document "Recommended English Names for Fungi in the UK" (linked in all articles), and confirming that the common names used here are valid. Thanks!

5x expanded by Sasata (talk). Self nom at 05:28, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

Mycena adscendens comes up only at 4.15x expansion for me. (620 B before, 2575 B after) It need 525 B added. The others are all 5x or more except the newly created article., and I did verify the common names are all correctly stated. Imzadi 1979 → 05:42, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

Mycena adscendens has been expanded enough. Imzadi 1979 → 06:08, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

The Heidenmauer

Created by Sadads (talk). Nominated by Self (talk) at 05:16, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

SMS Kronprinz (1914)

A large, light gray warship sits motionless in a calm sea

5x expanded by Parsecboy (talk). Self nom at 04:46, 26 September 2010 (UTC)


Jack Kershaw

Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 04:26, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on September 25

Tom Johnson (American football)

Created by Cbl62 (talk). Self nom at 00:43, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

Bernard Carvalho

Created by Scanlan (talk). Nominated by Scanlan (talk) at 23:48, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

Sampi

  • ... that the archaic Greek letter Sampi (ϡ) has also been called san, enacosis, angma, sincope, charaktir, or even parakyisma, which literally means "spurious pregnancy"?
Old article, expanded (2,500 chars > 30,000 chars by Fut.Perf.. Self-nom. Fut.Perf. ☼ 08:30, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

Maria Brontë

Created by Clementina (talk). Self nom at 05:27, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

Chamelaucium, Eriostemon australasius

5x expanded by Casliber (talk), Poyt448 (talk). Self nom at 02:55, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

Medieval invasions of Britain

Created by DCI2026 (talk). Self nom at 02:13, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

  • Comment: This really isn't ready for DYK yet in my opinion. However, I am going to help do some improvement on the article and the hook, perhaps other reviewers with historical interests could help too. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 02:23, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

Matt Bischoff

Created by Halvorsen brian (talk). Self nom at 00:26, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

Jo Andrews

Created by TheRetroGuy (talk). Nominated by TheRetroGuy (talk) at 23:09, 25 September 2010 (UTC)

Anastas Byku

Created by Aigest (talk). Nominated by Sulmues (talk) at 23:04, 25 September 2010 (UTC)

Beth Courtney

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 22:29, 25 September 2010 (UTC)

ALT: ... that the National D-Day Museum honored Beth Courtney, president of Louisiana Public Broadcasting, for a three-hour tribute to World War II veterans in Louisiana?

Elias Abel House

A red wooden house, seen from the level of the grass

Created by Nyttend (talk). Self nom at 21:59, 25 September 2010 (UTC)


Werner Güra

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self nom at 20:01, 25 September 2010 (UTC)

Batra mine

Created by Bine Mai (talk). Nominated by Bine Mai (talk) at 16:06, 25 September 2010 (UTC)

  • I don't see why this hook would be considered especially interesting or eye-catching to readers (presumably the purpose of a chromium mine is to produce lots of chromium), in addition to which the article only has a single source, and that single source is the Albanian government, which actually owned and operated the mine for most of the period in question. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 17:51, 25 September 2010 (UTC)
Yes the purpose of a chromium mine is to produce chromium but i thought this might be interesting keeping in mind that this is a mine from a small fairly undeveloped country which used its own capital to exploit it without the help of large domestic or foreign companies and if you do the math you will see that it produced roughly 140,000 tonnes of ore per year which was more than 1% of the world's annual production. BineMai 11:10, 26 September 2010 (UTC)
yes i agree with that --Vinie007 16:57, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

Arthur Cumming (Royal Navy officer)

An old man sitting on a chair wearing a suit and holding a top hat on his lap

Created by Dumelow (talk). Self nom at 15:47, 25 September 2010 (UTC)


Coral Sea, Aipysurus duboisii

sea snake Laticauda colubrina

  • ... that at least seventeen species of sea snake (example pictured) live in the Coral Sea, of which one has the most toxic venom in the world?
  • Comment: The hook is in "Fauna" (5th paragraph) in the Coral Sea. this ref. is to confirm that the pictured sea snake (sea krait is subspecies of sea snakes) lives in the Coral Sea, and this is the ref. for 17 species (Great Coral Reef is a part of the Coral Sea).

Created/expanded by Materialscientist (talk). Nominated by Materialscientist (talk) at 13:29, 25 September 2010 (UTC)

  • Verified, I've changed the hook though because the refs say it is the most toxic venom, but this doesn't necessarily make it the most poisonous snake, as other snakes could just inject more venom - see Vespa luctuosa which is also here at the moment. Can you fix the couple of queries I've added as hidden notes in the Coral Sea article? Smartse (talk) 17:42, 26 September 2010 (UTC)
    Thanks. Addressed your queries. Yes, its venom, I just wasn't sure how do they count "most poisonous", as the dose should vary between individuals. I re-added "at least" - there are 17 on the Great Barrier Reef, I think I saw some (questionable) refs saying there are a bit more in the sea. Materialscientist (talk) 00:04, 27 September 2010 (UTC)


Ottoman–Mamluk War (1516–1517)

Abraham Ortelius - Tvrcici imperii descriptio

Created by Per Honor et Gloria (talk). Nominated by Per Honor et Gloria (talk) at 08:03, 25 September 2010 (UTC)


Bangladesh-Bhutan relations

Created by S h i v a (Visnu) (talk). Nominated by S h i v a (Visnu) (talk) at 03:48, 25 September 2010 (UTC)

Vinnie Doyle

Created by Candlewicke (talk). Nominated by Candlewicke (talk) at 02:19, 25 September 2010 (UTC)

Veal and ham pie

Created by Susanne2009NYC (talk). Nominated by Susanne2009NYC (talk) at 01:46, 25 September 2010 (UTC)

Cruschedula

Created by Kevmin (talk). Self nom at 00:57, 25 September 2010 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on September 24

Paul Isenberg, Albert Spencer Wilcox, Albert Spencer Wilcox Building, Abner Wilcox

stone building

Created by W Nowicki (talk). Nominated by W Nowicki (talk) at 20:09, 26 September 2010 (UTC)



Alexander Classical School

A three-story building faced in small earth-toned rocks with a rounded cupola on top. There is an American flag on a flagpole at left and a blue-and-gold historical marker in front. Above the door are the words "Town Hall".

5x expanded by Daniel Case (talk). Nominated by Daniel Case (talk) at 15:31, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

Coffee production in Papua New Guinea

Coffee seeds packed in bags

Created by Dr. Blofeld (talk), Nvvchar (talk). Nominated by Dr. Blofeld (talk) at 09:50, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

Old Christ Church, Waterloo

The tower and part of the body of a sandstone church seen from the north between trees

Created by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 13:14, 25 September 2010 (UTC)


Jagiellonian tapestries

Tapestry with monogram of king Sigismund Augustus

Created by BurgererSF (talk) 10:11, 25 September 2010 (UTC). Self nom at 10:11, 25 September 2010 (UTC)

George E. Hearn

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 03:57, 25 September 2010 (UTC)

ALT: ... that George E. Hearn was the first licensed industrial psychologist in his native Louisiana?


William M. Hanley

Created by Orygun (talk). Nominated by Orygun (talk) at 03:42, 25 September 2010 (UTC)

The Fabian Strategy (30 Rock)

Created by ThinkBlue (talk). Self nom at 23:49, 24 September 2010 (UTC)

John Callan (judge)

man in his early 50s wearing a lawyers' wig and gown, standing in front of a book shelf

Created by Rick570 (talk), Schwede66 (talk). Self nom at 23:43, 24 September 2010 (UTC)

man in his early 50s wearing a lawyers' wig and gown, standing in front of a book shelf

Barford Court, Hove

A greyish-purple brick building with a reddish tiled roof and brown-framed sash windows, partly hidden behind a wall of the same bricks

  • ... that eccentric tycoon Ian Stuart Millar's seafront home (pictured) in Hove, England, was built of specially commissioned handmade bricks—the leftovers of which were reputedly buried elsewhere in Hove?
  • Comment: 200 chars with (pictured) ... but better hook wording is welcomed.

Created by Hassocks5489 (talk). Self nom at 22:32, 24 September 2010 (UTC)


St Mary's Church, Elsing

Stone church with sqare tower and battlements seen against blue sky with white clouds

Created by Charlesdrakew (talk). Self nom at 21:10, 24 September 2010 (UTC)


Erasmo Ramírez (right-handed pitcher)

Created by Halvorsen brian (talk). Self nom at 20:10, 24 September 2010 (UTC)

Dan Tyler Moore

Created by Wehwalt (talk). Self nom at 20:07, 24 September 2010 (UTC)

The Cosmic Landscape

  • ... that The Cosmic Landscape by Leonard Susskind is mainly about "the scientific explanations of the apparent miracles of physics and cosmology and its philosophical implications?"

Created by Derild4921 (talk). Self nom at 19:50, 24 September 2010 (UTC)

Roddon

A sunny view of high-street Benwick which, according to Astbury, is built on a rodham

  • ALT1:... that rodham is one of three alternate spellings for roddon; an East Anglian word for the old course of a river?
  • ALT2:... that a silted-up old river bed is called a rodham in East Anglia?

Created by Senra (talk). Self nom at 19:47, 24 September 2010 (UTC)


Tivoli Friheden

Description of the image

5x expanded by Leszek Jańczuk (talk). Self nom at 19:29, 24 September 2010 (UTC)

  • The hook is in no way interesting or eye-catching (despite there being some very interesting historical background to the establishment that could have been used!), the only source for the article is the establishment's own website, and the article contains promotional blurb like, "For the visitors the park is like a zone of permanent free time." --Demiurge1000 (talk) 20:21, 24 September 2010 (UTC)
Also it's still marked as a stub. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 20:25, 24 September 2010 (UTC)
  • Because the articles on fr-wiki and da-wiki are not well referenced, but I think I found a something:

ALT1 ... that Tivoli Friheden (pictured), an amusement park in Aarhus, has themed rock with runic scripture? Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 22:01, 24 September 2010 (UTC)

Query - is there a requirement that DYK articles can't be stubs? Schwede66 22:36, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

British and Colonial Films

Created by Ghmyrtle (talk). Self nom at 18:01, 24 September 2010 (UTC)

"* Good to go. Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 20:44, 25 September 2010 (UTC)

Stephen Varcoe

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self nom at 16:21, 24 September 2010 (UTC)

Speakers' Corner, Singapore

A brown wooden sign with the words "Speakers' Corner" in white next to a grassy field.

5x expanded by Lee Huimin (talk), Libing.tan.2008 (talk), Redefreiheit (talk), Viknesh2010 (talk), and Smuconlaw (talk). Nominated by Smuconlaw (talk) at 16:00, 24 September 2010 (UTC)

The expanded article was worked on in a sandbox and moved into the article namespace on 24 September 2010. — SMUconlaw (talk) 16:12, 24 September 2010 (UTC)


Kirklees Priory

Created/expanded by J3Mrs (talk). Self nom at 15:58, 24 September 2010 (UTC)

Mothers of the Disappeared

5x expanded by Melicans (talk). Self nom at 15:11, 24 September 2010 (UTC)

Hold On! (film)

Created by Dravecky (talk). Self nom at 14:45, 24 September 2010 (UTC)

Clarence River Light

Created by Muhandes (talk). Self nom at 14:29, 24 September 2010 (UTC)

Javad Alizadeh

A cartoon of Javad

  • ... that Iranian cartoonist Javad has created a scientific/philosophical cartoon on relativity theory titled 4D Humor (pictured)?

Created by Farhikht (talk). Nominated by Farhikht (talk) at 13:26, 24 September 2010 (UTC)

Reply on your talk page.Farhikht (talk) 14:54, 24 September 2010 (UTC)
My answer is on yours. Ericoides 14:58, 24 September 2010 (UTC)
Can someone else check this? I've become a bit too involved with it. Thanks, Ericoides 15:41, 24 September 2010 (UTC)


Mirna Bridge

A view of the bridge curving across the Mirna River valley as seen from the road approaching the southern end of the bridge

Created by Tomobe03 (talk). Self nom at 12:42, 24 September 2010 (UTC)

Can you point out where in ref2 the "longest bridge" claim is made so we can at least check it in google translate? It would be ideal if you could add a quote to the ref and translate it as well. Smartse (talk) 17:58, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

Sophia Fresh

  • ... that girl group Sophia Fresh's debut single, "What It Is", impressed Rihanna so much that she wished the song was hers?

5x expanded by Cornucopia (talk). Self nom at 08:24, 24 September 2010 (UTC)

NGC 3109

A photograph of the galaxy NGC 3109

5x expanded by Reyk (talk). Self nom at 05:21, 24 September 2010 (UTC)


Neuilly sa mère !

Created by Rjanag (talk). Self nom at 04:24, 24 September 2010 (UTC)

  • Oops, thanks for the reminder. I meant to add a brief paragraph about the title (as it's idiomatic and hard to translate directly) and totally forgot; I'll try to put one together today. As for the reception section, I am waiting on one or two newspapers reviews and will try to add a bit from them once I've got them. rʨanaɢ (talk) 18:11, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

George Munroe

Created by Jrcla2 (talk). Self nom at 02:53, 24 September 2010 (UTC)

Battle of Nui Le

5x expanded by Newm30 (talk). Self nom at 01:07, 24 September 2010 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on September 23

2004 Motor City Bowl, 2007 Meineke Car Care Bowl

5x expanded by Grondemar (talk). Self nom at 05:04, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

David Bushnell (historian)

Created by Scanlan (talk). Self nom at 23:36, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

Maria Esperanza de Bianchini

Created by Mamalujo (talk). Nominated by PFHLai (talk) at 06:46, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

ADEOS I

A large rocket lifting off from a launch pad

  • ... that the NASDA satellite ADEOS I (launch pictured) malfunctioned less than a year in orbit – a fate repeated by its successor six years later?

Created by User:Mattgirling (talk). Self nom at 17:07, 25 September 2010 (UTC)


Marty Amsler

  • ... that throughout Marty Amsler's entire NFL career he played in 37 games but never started a single one?

Created by Rockfang (talk). Self nom at 17:05, 25 September 2010 (UTC)

Devils Brigade (album)

Created by IllaZilla (talk). Nominated by Secret Saturdays (talk) at 04:05, 25 September 2010 (UTC)

Military campaigns of Julius Caesar

Bust of Gaius Julius Caesar in the National Archaeological Museum of Naples

Created by RomanHistorian (talk). Nominated by Secret Saturdays (talk) at 04:05, 25 September 2010 (UTC)

--Demiurge1000 (talk) 16:52, 25 September 2010 (UTC)

America's Finest City Half Marathon

Created by Sillyfolkboy (talk). Nominated by MelanieN (talk) at 00:44, 25 September 2010 (UTC)

Puszcza Piska

The Mute Swan

Created by Babia Góra (talk). Self nom at 16:47, 24 September 2010 (UTC)


James Eccles

Photo of Mont Blanc de Courmayeur

Created by Ericoides (talk). Self nom at 16:14, 24 September 2010 (UTC)

Charles Fitzroy Doll

Created by Jack1956 (talk). Nominated by Jack1956 (talk) at 14:56, 24 September 2010 (UTC)

List of Cardcaptor Sakura episodes

5x expanded by Juhachi (talk). Self nom at 08:35, 24 September 2010 (UTC)

  • I think the wording of the hook sounds contrived. Normally you wouldn't say that "the episodes" premiered, but that the show premiered. I think it would be better with the word "episodes" removed, and then linking to the list from the later use of "episode". Here is what I would suggest: ... that when the anime Cardcaptor Sakura premiered on Kids' WB in North America, the first broadcast episode was the eighth? Calathan (talk) 17:22, 24 September 2010 (UTC)

Petra Noskaiová

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self nom at 07:04, 23 September 2010 (UTC)

Chord Overstreet

Created by Yvesnimmo (talk). Nominated by Fetchcomms (talk) at 02:08, 24 September 2010 (UTC)

Ji-Man Choi

Created by Halvorsen brian (talk). Self nom at 00:32, 24 September 2010 (UTC)

Dead Timber State Recreation Area

Created by Dincher (talk). Self nom at 00:05, 24 September 2010 (UTC)

List of celebrity guest appearances on Neighbours

5x expanded by JuneGloom07 (talk). Self nom at 00:03, 24 September 2010 (UTC)

  • IMO the Andre Rieu thing is very dubious. I found the ref on the Digital Spy site, but that article refers to a LastBroadcast poll but without any link - I searched LastBroadcast and can find no evidence of this poll. I'd personally question that this should even be in the article, much less used for a DYK. Just naming someone as having made a guest appearance (like the Lily Allen one) seems to lack a bit of interest in itself - can you make it someone that did something interesting or noteworthy in their guest appearance perhaps? --jjron (talk) 10:47, 25 September 2010 (UTC)
Oh, I just found the Last Broadcast poll. :) - JuneGloom07 Talk? 12:21, 25 September 2010 (UTC)
for the Clive James one (ALT 2). I'm new to DYK so not sure if I'm actually allowed to give the tick, but this seems to check out now (if not can someone drop me a note on my talkpage). Fair enough re the poll, still I find using a random webpoll as the basis of a DYK a bit unconvincing. The Clive James thing seems more like what I was thinking - reasonably well known beyond just Australia, and played a slightly peculiar role (you could even add in that he was 'mute' (from the Hardy article - though I'd say in real terms more like a non-speaking role)). I love the Fleety one - actually wondered why that wasn't there when I first checked the article - but TBH I think it'd be more accurate to call his appearance in the late-80s more that of B-grade extra than a 'guest appearance' (look if he had have been reprising his famous 'Delivery Man 2' role from Prisoner say, then maybe... ;) - I also added in the article that this incident lead to Daphne's death, which her article also mentions, but without a specific ref). Well done. --jjron (talk) 11:08, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

Mangia

  • ... that in the extremely rare 1983 video game Mangia, the player controls a boy whose mother attempts to feed him so much pasta that his stomach will explode?

Created by 28bytes (talk). Self nom at 22:02, 23 September 2010 (UTC)

Church of All Souls, Bolton

A broad church in brick with stone dressings, seen from the northeast, with a canted apse, a crocketted pinnacle, and in the distance a tower, also with crocketted pinnacles

5x expanded by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 20:46, 23 September 2010 (UTC)


eight articles

Created by Bine Mai (talk). Nominated by Bine Mai (talk) at 20:01, 23 September 2010 (UTC)

  • The 1.6% figure seems to be based on the figure for chromium reserves in The Limits to Growth which was published almost 40 years ago, which cannot be accurate anymore, because they will have either shrunk as we've used it up, or grown as we've found more. The US Geological Service may have some relevant information on this in one of the reports found here. Even then though, I'm not entirely sure whether it is original research to do the calculations to make the percentage figure for the hook. Can anyone advise? Smartse (talk) 23:24, 24 September 2010 (UTC)
Added two more mines and changed the hook. BineMai 15:14, 25 September 2010 (UTC)

Church of St Demetrius, Patalenitsa; Patalenitsa

A medieval church constructed of stone and brickwork with the entrance and dome visible standing in a grassy area with wooded mountains in the background

Created by TodorBozhinov (talk). Nominated by TodorBozhinov (talk) at 19:57, 23 September 2010 (UTC)

Grove Church Cemetery

  • ALT1:... that Robert Gardner's metallic coffin was found opened, removed from the shelf upon which it sat in a granite, iron barred and locked vault at Grove Church Cemetery, and no one was sure why?

5x expanded by Theornamentalist (talk). Nominated by Theornamentalist (talk) at 19:47, 23 September 2010 (UTC)

Early life and career of Julius Caesar

Created by RomanHistorian (talk). Self nom at 17:36, 23 September 2010 (UTC)

  • Actually I did know that :) So many exciting alternatives here, though;
ALT1 ... that for a period of Julius Caesar's early career, he was not permitted to touch a horse, sleep three nights outside his own bed or one night outside Rome, or look upon an army?
--Demiurge1000 (talk) 17:53, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
ALT2 ... that during Julius Caesar's early career, he gave up his betrothal to the woman he'd been engaged to since boyhood, in order to become a priest?
(this ALT2 only any use if it's OK for a front page fact to be sourced to Suetonius) --Demiurge1000 (talk) 18:09, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
ALT3 ... that in Julius Caesar's early career, he spent so long at the court of King Nicomedes that Plutarch, Suetonius and Cassius Dio mention rumours of an affair between the two men?
--Demiurge1000 (talk) 18:15, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
ALT4 ... ... that at age 25 Julius Caesar was captured by pirates, but after being ransomed, chased them, captured them, and had them crucified?
--Demiurge1000 (talk) 18:23, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
  • About the article, though, if this is appropriate here. First, there is no wikilink for the man himself in the article that I could see. Second, I wonder if there is precedent for forking out the early part of the life of a person. Thanks, Drmies (talk) 19:34, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
Yes it should have a wikilink to the main article. At least some sentences (but not paragraphs) seem to be identical to material already in the main article. (But, that may be partly because they are simply using the same sources.) However, there seems to be concensus (or at least a biumvirate :) on the main article's talk page that a separate article on the early life is the way to go. I agree with what's said there - the main article is, appropriately enough, written in a style much more approachable to the layman, whereas this one, by contrast, goes into more detail (and seems intended to be the first of a series I guess.)
Another ALT to add, if someone wants to give it a try, is Caesar telling his pirate captors that the ransome they are demanding for him, is much too small. But I forget how well it's sourced and it sounds oddly familiar somehow (other people adopted the same approach later?) --Demiurge1000 (talk) 21:14, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
I corrected the wikilink issue. I like ALT3 the best. It would probably draw the most attention. And Caesar told his captors that they should be able to get a ransom of at least double what they first wanted.RomanHistorian (talk) 03:05, 24 September 2010 (UTC)
FWIW, I found ALT3 the least interesting, ALT2 was probably the most surprising for me but it could do with a copyedit. Le Deluge (talk) 10:32, 24 September 2010 (UTC)
I'm OK with any of them.RomanHistorian (talk) 14:30, 24 September 2010 (UTC)

Jim Cardwell

Created by Jenks24 (talk). Self nom at 14:59, 23 September 2010 (UTC)

  • A lot of sports club officials serve for a fairly long time (or indeed a very long time), so this is really not all that eye-catching. Just to try to add a bit more interest and variety, how about;
ALT1 ... that Jim Cardwell was the secretary of the Melbourne Football Club for 25 years, but also ran an engineering business and had previously been a soldier and a successful debater?
ALT2 ... that Jim Cardwell gave up his engineering business to become full-time secretary for Melbourne Football Club, a post he held for 25 years?
--Demiurge1000 (talk) 17:47, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
Thanks for the suggestions, they're both better than what I had originally. But how about either:
ALT3 ... that Jim Cardwell was part of the Melbourne Football Club's "backbone of steel", which contributed to the club winning six premierships in 14 years?
ALT4 ... that Jim Cardwell was the secretary of the Melbourne Football Club for 25 years and he became known as the "Prince of Secretaries"?
Jenks24 (talk) 07:20, 24 September 2010 (UTC)

List of World Heritage Sites in Peru

Machu Picchu

Created by Grsz11 (talk). Nominated by Grsz11 (talk) at 14:35, 23 September 2010 (UTC)


Count of the Stable

Created by Cplakidas (talk). Self nom at 13:49, 23 September 2010 (UTC)

Wat Pasantidhamma

Golden sitting slender Buddha atop an altar

Created by Rlevse (talk). Self nom at 10:06, 23 September 2010 (UTC)

Agree Alt2 is better than main, but think alt1 is also acceptable — Rlevse • Talk • 14:14, 25 September 2010 (UTC)

American Honda Motor Company

Headquarters of American Honda

Created by Jeff Bedford (talk). Nominated by Zunaid (talk) at 08:17, 23 September 2010 (UTC)

Linn Duachaill

  • ... that one of the best-preserved Viking settlements in Europe, Linn Duachaill, was founded at the same time as Dublin, in the 840s, and was unearthed and identified in September 2010?

Created by Drmies (talk). Nominated by Drmies (talk) at 04:31, 23 September 2010 (UTC)

Robert Twycross

Created by Hordesofkreuser (talk). Nominated by Mono (talk) at 01:35, 23 September 2010 (UTC)

Hildegard Laurich

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self nom at 07:04, 23 September 2010 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on September 22

Scott Pilarz

5x expanded by Scanlan (talk). Self nom at 04:09, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

Former Residence of Soong Ching Ling

Soong's residence

Created by Ekem (talk). Nominated by Ekem (talk) at 13:28, 26 September 2010 (UTC)


Tetragnatha extensa

Created by Stemonitis (talk). Nominated by PFHLai (talk) at 12:35, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

Self-portrait (Thomas Eakins)

Self-portrait, Thomas Eakins. 1902. Oil on canvas.

  • ... that in Thomas Eakins' Self-portrait (pictured), the contrast between his formal attire and his unkempt grooming alludes to a rebellious nature restrained by cultural mores?

Created by JNW (talk). Nominated by Mandarax (talk) at 06:49, 25 September 2010 (UTC)


Richard Cantillon

  • Comment: Expanded over a period of two days. Originally, the article was at about 8kB in length, however it was deleted for plagiarism. At the time I began editing it it was therefore essentially non-existent. I expanded it to over 40kB, so either way it should meet the length requirement.

5x expanded by Catalan (talk). Nominated by Catalan (talk) at 04:19, 24 September 2010 (UTC)

Noosa National Park

5x expanded by Shiftchange (talk). Self nom at 02:52, 24 September 2010 (UTC)

Yes. Figure and sentence has been clarified with another more reliable source, a media release from the relevant Queensland government department. - Shiftchange (talk) 00:49, 25 September 2010 (UTC)
Not meaning to be a pain the backside, but the second ref says "the national park...receives over one million visits each year", but doesn't actually specify that it's the most visited park in the country, and that's the part that concerns me. If I'm reading right the figures are a bit 'soft' anyway, as they're basically counting anyone that goes down to the beach from Noosa town as a NP 'visitor', which I'm not sure is really the spirit of the thing, so not really a fair comparison - like I mean how many people actually say "I'm going for a trip to Noosa National Park" as opposed to those that specifically go somewhere like Kakadu, Cradle Mountain, Wilsons Prom or the Blue Mountains? Surely that would be a truer measure of the park's appeal? Perhaps you could use a hook more like:
ALT1 ... that Noosa National Park in Australia receives more than 1 million visitors a year? --jjron (talk) 11:28, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

Actua

Created by KT44 (talk). Nominated by Chzz (talk) at 18:35, 23 September 2010 (UTC)

Gros-Mécatina, Quebec

Gros-Mécatina

5x expanded by P199 (talk). Nominated by P199 (talk) at 16:47, 23 September 2010 (UTC)


Soulless (novel), Changeless (novel), Blameless (novel)

Created by Dravecky (talk). Self nom at 11:24, 23 September 2010 (UTC)

Murray Sayle

Created by Cbl62 (talk). Self nom at 01:05, 23 September 2010 (UTC)

SweeTango (apple)

Created by Doug Coldwell (talk). Self nom at 23:14, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

Darius Dhlomo

Created by Uncle G (talk), Sillyfolkboy (talk). Nominated by Sillyfolkboy (talk) at 22:23, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

  • The important thing is that it was outside South Africa hence the Apartheid laws did not apply. You need to mention "debut for Dutch club" to point out it's his first time (and hence first changing room etiquette experience) outside of South Africa. The name of the club then only adds two extra words. The other important point about that particular football club was that another South African, Steve Mokone (who joined them a few years before Dhlomo's time), was the first black football player in the Netherlands ever. It ties things together, closing the loop between black South African footballers and the Netherlands in a kind of neat way I think. Zunaid 22:47, 24 September 2010 (UTC)
  • Oh I totally get the significance of it being a debut, and it being for a non-SA club. But we're writing newspaper headlines here, and every surplus word dilutes attention away from the main subject of the hook, people can read the article to get the details. I think your argument about Mokone is overcomplicating things - anyone who knew enough about Dutch football to know what club Mokone played for, would probably be aware of what Dhlomo played for, and if they don't get the Mokone reference, it's just distraction. Le Deluge (talk) 14:11, 25 September 2010 (UTC)
  • The only other phrasing I can think of is to replace "...on his debut for Dutch club Heracles Almelo..." with "...before his first match for a foreign club..." which gains zero words but costs us a potentially interesting article link that Dutch readers may be able to improve upon. I think we're splitting hairs, to me the wording looks fine but maybe I'm just not seeing an obvious way to reduce the blurb. Please feel free to suggest an ALT 2. Zunaid 20:29, 25 September 2010 (UTC)

Inocybe maculata

Three stout, brown mushrooms with prominent umbos and a white substance on the cap growing from soil. One is lying down, revealing the gills.

Created by J Milburn (talk). Self nom at 18:05, 22 September 2010 (UTC)


3 Deewarein

5x expanded by Mspraveen (talk). Self nom at 17:34, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

Joyce Beber

  • ... that Leona Helmsley hired Joyce Beber to promote her hotels and fired her four times, including once after Helmsley was convicted for income tax evasion and blamed Beber for having raised her profile?

Created by Bongomatic (talk), Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 17:02, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

Clarence Seamans

Created by Elcobbola (talk). Self nom at 15:34, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

Ned Sutton

Created by Jenks24 (talk). Self nom at 14:51, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

Paycheck Fairness Act

Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 14:43, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

St Andrew's Church, East Heslerton

A stone church seen from the northeast with a broad tower and spire, a chancel with an apse and, between them a small vestry

Created by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 14:36, 22 September 2010 (UTC)


HIP Petrohemija

Created by Bine Mai (talk). Nominated by Bine Mai (talk) at 14:21, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

Hornby Lighthouse

Hornby Lighthouse, a tapered circular structure painted with red and white vertical stripes, with a white balcony and railing, and glass lantern.

5x expanded by Muhandes (talk). Self nom at 11:24, 22 September 2010 (UTC)


Flags (album)

Created by Adabow (talk). Self nom at 09:39, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

Kenneth Strong

5x expanded by Hawkeye7 (talk) 09:14, 22 September 2010 (UTC). Self nom at 09:13, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

Beaufort Sea

5x expanded by Materialscientist (talk). Nominated by Materialscientist (talk) at 06:28, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

I've wikified the hook and turned US > United States of America. Smartse (talk) 23:27, 24 September 2010 (UTC)

HMS Hector (1862)

5x expanded by Sturmvogel 66 (talk). Nominated by Sturmvogel 66 (talk) at 05:21, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

The Butcher, the Chef and the Swordsman

Created by Andrzejbanas (talk). Nominated by Andrzejbanas (talk) at 03:24, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

Older nominations

Articles created/expanded on September 21

Église Saint-Pothin

Created by Europe22 (talk). Nominated by PFHLai (talk) at 13:46, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

Instinto Asesino

5x expanded by Lionelt (talk). Self nom at 00:14, 25 September 2010 (UTC)

Devil's Acre

The Devil's Acre in the shadows of Palace of Westminster

Created by User:SasiSasi (talk). Self nom at 22:58, 24 September 2010 (UTC)

  • I've fixed up this incorrectly completed nom and will ask the nominator to add a caption for the image. Should be able to make a good halloween hook out of this, me thinks. Smartse (talk) 23:31, 24 September 2010 (UTC)
Not sure about a scary hook actually... The ref for the current hook isn't especially reliable, I found this which says that Wiseman is sometimes given credit for transforming slum from slang to a more genteel word. Can the hook be tweaked to make it clear that the term was used before, but that it had another meaning? Smartse (talk) 23:30, 26 September 2010 (UTC)


Star Trek Concordance

  • ... that at one time, the Star Trek Concordance was the best-selling trade edition book published in the United States. But due to the publisher's concerns, at the time, of waning interest in Star Trek, it was decided to not reprint the book?

Created by Lionelt (talk). Self nom at 22:07, 24 September 2010 (UTC)

  • ALT1 ... that in the mid-70s, the Star Trek Concordance and The Making of Star Trek were the only references used by writers of the Star Trek television show?

Manuel Ascencio Padilla, Padilla, Bolivia

Created by Rosiestep (talk), Dr. Blofeld (talk). Nominated by Rosiestep (talk) at 03:46, 24 September 2010 (UTC)

Pascalization

Created by Fetchcomms (talk). Self nom at 02:19, 24 September 2010 (UTC)

Brett Beavers

Created by J04n (talk). Self nom at 01:21, 23 September 2010 (UTC)

Miss Albany Diner

Miss Albany Diner photographed in 2010, a single-storey building in the shape of a railroad car, with an Art Deco facade in cream and maroon stripes.

Created by Voceditenore (talk). Self nom at 13:33, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

  • While "Lil's Diner" may be the name used for the NRHP nom, the place has been known as "Miss Albany Diner" since the late 1980s and few people call it (or would recognize it) as Lil's. I just moved the article to Miss Albany Diner and consequently changed the name used in the DYK nom as well. upstateNYer 22:26, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

Fathi Osman

  • ... that The New York Times cited as "monumental" the 1997 book Concepts of the Quran: A Topical Reading by Fathi Osman, in which he explained concepts in Islam for non-Muslims?

Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 12:50, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

Bergens TF

Created by Geschichte (talk). Self nom at 09:18, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

  • I liked the sound of this, but after reading up on it, while technically true, it seems a little trumped up. It appears the eight were part of a winning 24 man team event only held at two Olympics (1912 & 1920) - see Gymnastics at the 1912 Summer Olympics – Men's team, free system. Reading the hook makes it feel like they were individual medallists in the way a modern gymnast would be. Maybe it could be reworded a bit more honestly, say something like:
ALT1 ... that eight gymnasts from the Norwegian club Bergens TF won gold medals at the 1912 Summer Olympics as part of the rare Men's team, free system event?
The article may need to be reworded slightly to clarify this point as well. --jjron (talk) 13:10, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

Paul De Villiers

Created by 28bytes (talk). Self nom at 04:50, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

Byron Cook

ALT... that Texas State Rep. Byron Cook of Corsicana co-owned with his father the since defunct video game company Tradewest that produced the arcade selection Ikari Warriors?

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 03:58, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

World Golf Village

Hall of Fame at World Golf Village

5x expanded by Mgreason (talk). Self nom at 01:14, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

CatholicVote.org

Created by BS24 (talk). Nominated by Lionelt (talk) at 22:20, 21 September 2010 (UTC)

  • For some of us in Europe and other places, a "pro-life spot" would be a place where people plant and nurture trees. Not saying there is anything wrong with the hook, but it may not be as immediately understood as you might think - at least outside the advertising industry, and in some parts of the world. I guess "spot" means "commercial placement", or something like that? --Demiurge1000 (talk) 03:20, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
  • As someone with a fair amount of experience with dealing with COIs I can definitely say that it doesn't apply here, they would have to be affiliated with the website themselves, which there is no evidence that they do AFAICT. That said, I agree with Demiurge1000 that "a pro-life spot" probably won't be understood by readers outside of the US. I suggest something along the lines of:

ALT1 ... that an anti-abortion movement commercial, featuring a depiction of President Barack Obama, was CatholicVote.org's first advertisement and recorded over 700,000 hits?

Can you add what the hits where on as well? I assume youtube but it really isn't clear. Someone more BLP inclined may also want to decide whether this is overly negative towards Obama as well. Smartse (talk) 23:56, 24 September 2010 (UTC)
Not sure whether commercial is the right word - is video or campaign better? Smartse (talk) 23:58, 24 September 2010 (UTC)

Bill Littlejohn

Created by Cbl62 (talk). Self nom at 20:31, 21 September 2010 (UTC)

Lucernaria janetae

Created by Ka Faraq Gatri (talk). Self nom at 17:59, 21 September 2010 (UTC)

  • Hmm. On reflection the hook is best supported from this reference From The Desk of Zelnio: Lucernaria janetae but I'm not sure if it would pass WP:RS being a blog (all be it one that appears to be written by scientists). Anything beyond that is really WP:OR e.g. Collins and Daly's tentative identification of Lutz 1998's population as L. janetae (that paper states that it is "the first time a representative of the class Scyphozoa (Cnidaria) has been encountered in a hydrothermal vent"). Also there's the failure of Collins and Daly to compare L. janetae with other vent dwelling Stauromedusae (something I'd expect given their comparisons with other Stauromedusae that aren't vent dwelling) and the failure of subsequent publications to mention any other named vent dwelling Stauromedusae species - but again it's WP:OR. Ka Faraq Gatri (talk) 13:11, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
ALT1 ... that Lucernaria janetae has eight lance-shaped gonads? Smartse (talk) 21:06, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
Confirmed. --Stemonitis (talk) 09:15, 24 September 2010 (UTC)

Church of St Peter and St Paul, Ormskirk, St Mary's Church, Purton, St Andrew's Church, Wanborough

Created by Belovedfreak (talk). Self nom at 16:25, 21 September 2010 (UTC)

Fântânele-Cogealac Wind Farm

5x expanded by Bine Mai (talk). Nominated by Bine Mai (talk) at 13:51, 21 September 2010 (UTC)

  • Article and hook length have been verified. The article is well-sourced, but the specific source used to back the hook states that it is "a wind farm which the backers claim is the largest project of its kind in Europe", which makes it seem that the reference is just repeating a claim, rather than having verified it. It's also not clear that the source meets WP:RS. Is there any other reliable and verifiable source that supports the claim or might there be an alternate hook with stronger sourcing? If I read the translation correctly, this source from Adevărul would back the claim, but an English language source would always be preferred. Alansohn (talk) 18:02, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
Found an English ref. BineMai 20:56, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
I've reorganised the hook a little. Here's another ref, just wanted to check that this isn't too crystally before ticking it off. Personally I think it is ok as it is half built already. Smartse (talk) 00:27, 24 September 2010 (UTC)

Çubuk-1 Dam

5x/nom by --NortyNort (Holla) 12:34, 21 September 2010 (UTC)

Missa (Bach)

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self nom at 07:54, 21 September 2010 (UTC)

Amar la Trama

Created by Jaespinoza (talk) 07:28, 21 September 2010 (UTC). Self nom at 07:27, 21 September 2010 (UTC)

Monte Robbins

Created by Cbl62 (talk). Self nom at 05:36, 21 September 2010 (UTC)

Gene Swick

Created by Strikehold (talk). Nominated by Strikehold (talk) at 04:49, 21 September 2010 (UTC)

HMS Defence (1861)

5x expanded by Sturmvogel 66 (talk). Nominated by Sturmvogel 66 (talk) at 04:25, 21 September 2010 (UTC)

Empire State

Created by UpstateNYer (talk). Nominated by UpstateNYer (talk) at 03:26, 21 September 2010 (UTC)

Cape Parry

Created by Rosiestep (talk). Self nom at 03:09, 21 September 2010 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on September 20

Somerset Space Walk

Large yellow sphere part hidden by the brick parapet of a canal bridge

Created by EdJogg (talk). Nominated by EdJogg (talk) at 01:31, 25 September 2010 (UTC)


Bill Erickson

Created by Jrcla2 (talk). Self nom at 04:16, 24 September 2010 (UTC)

Frédéric Chopin's illness

Created by Filip em (talk). Nominated by Piotrus (talk) at 03:23, 24 September 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for appreciating the text, but please consider User:Filip em as its author. The article, as I mentioned in the "describe changes" section while creating, is almost entirely his work. I've only put it here on his behalf, adding some links. Gregory of nyssa (talk) 18:02, 24 September 2010 (UTC)
Okay, I've modified the nom so Filip em is credited as the article's creator. — Malik Shabazz /Stalk 04:08, 25 September 2010 (UTC)

Western Cemetery (Portland, Maine)

  • ... that when a number of tombs were opened at the Western Cemetery in Portland, Maine, nothing was found inside and no record was made of where the remains went? (this might be a candidate for Halloween?)

Created by Namiba (talk). Nominated by Namiba (talk) at 03:03, 24 September 2010 (UTC)

I sure can. I will expand it shortly.--TM 18:25, 24 September 2010 (UTC)
It's expanded to be long enough now. If we're going for Halloween:
ALT1 ... that when opened, the Longfellow tomb at the Western Cemetery in Portland, Maine, was empty, when it should have contained the parents of Henry Wadsworth Longfellow?
Not quite sure if this is scary enough though. Smartse (talk) 19:56, 25 September 2010 (UTC)

North Main Street School

A two-story brick building seen from its left, with a bare tree in front on that corner. It has many large windows, two entrances with decorative stone trim and a point in the center of the roof. The U.S. and POW-MIA flags are flying from a flagpole in front.

  • Comment: Fivefold text expansion

5x expanded by Daniel Case (talk). Nominated by Daniel Case (talk) at 19:13, 23 September 2010 (UTC)

bacha posh

  • ... that a practice in Afghanistan, where a daughter in a family without sons is dressed in male clothing and acts as a boy, allowing her to do things she could not do as a girl, is called bacha posh?

Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 17:44, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

Evangelical School of Smyrna

Created by Alexikoua (talk). Self nom at 11:54, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

Thomas Hannum

Created by Ktr101 (talk). Nominated by Ktr101 (talk) at 02:34, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

Is this person notable? I see coverage in one local newspaper, the university website and no inherent notability.--TM 03:11, 24 September 2010 (UTC)
  • Note I wasn't trying to establish that at the time. I think if you talk to most percussionists they would know of him but I will get on top of the one source thing in the next day or so. Sorry about that. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 15:48, 24 September 2010 (UTC)

George N. Parks Drum Major Academy

Created by Ktr101 (talk). Nominated by Ktr101 (talk) at 01:50, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

  • At last check, the article was just past 1,200 characters of prose, short of the 1,500 required. It might make more sense to include the material in this article in the parent George N. Parks rather than stretching to create an article about the academy he created. Alansohn (talk) 17:49, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

George N. Parks Marching Band Building

Created by Ktr101 (talk). Nominated by Ktr101 (talk) at 00:30, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

Donald W. Davis

Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 15:48, 21 September 2010 (UTC)

Ottoman-Mamluk War (1485–1491)

Mamluk cavalry

Created/expanded by Per Honor et Gloria (talk). Nominated by Per Honor et Gloria (talk) at 13:28, 21 September 2010 (UTC)


Ollie E. Brown

5x expanded by 28bytes (talk). Self nom at 03:19, 21 September 2010 (UTC)

Events of 1807-08

alt2 = ... that the Janissaries staged their last successful coups against Ottoman sultans during the Events of 1807-08? --> Created by DCI2026 (talk). Self nom at 23:50, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

Shirgj Monastery

  • ... that when people would get buried within the ruins of the Shirgj Monastery the gravediggers would often encounter old mosaics of the old church?

Created by Sulmues (talk). Nominated by Sulmues (talk) at 21:32, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

  • (shorter)... that within the ruins of the Shirgj Monastery in northern Albania the gravediggers would often encounter mosaics from the old church?
Fine with me. --Sulmues 22:21, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
  • Length and date are all good, but Google Translate doesn't do a good job on the hook reference, so AFG on that one. Shorter hook is better, though it wouldn't hurt to add "in northern Albania" or something, just to give the reader some context as to where Shirgj is. — Toдor Boжinov — 15:00, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
 Done--Sulmues 15:01, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

Anina mine and Crivina Power Station

Created by Bine Mai (talk). Nominated by Bine Mai (talk) at 21:27, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

ALT1 ... that the Anina mine supplied Crivina Power Station with oil shale?
I'm not 100% sure if this is correct though as it's not explicitly mentioned in the articles at the moment, can you see if it is mentioned in this ref? If it isn't the original hook needs changing, since it is not the oldest mine, but the longest running operational mine. Smartse (talk) 16:41, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
The ref you supplied indeed states that the power station was supplied with oil shale from Anina. BineMai 17:40, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
Added the ref to the Crivina article aswell and i'm going with your ALT. BineMai 17:45, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
The mine article says it "was intended to supply Crivina Power Station" and the power station article says "it was supposed to be supplied with ... oil shale ... from the nearby Anina mine". Do the refs state that the mine did actually supplt the power station though? (I've removed the second nom and added the DYKmake template to this one). Smartse (talk) 00:07, 24 September 2010 (UTC)
The mine did actually supply the power station for four years but the power station only used one 330 MW generation unit because the oil shale was of very low caloric quality. BineMai 11:28, 24 September 2010 (UTC)
Can you change the articles to make that clear? At the moment it looks as if the hook is incorrect when you read the articles. Smartse (talk) 00:01, 25 September 2010 (UTC)
Done. Changed both the articles. BineMai 14:42, 25 September 2010 (UTC)

Red-and-yellow Barbet

A bird with a yellow breast, red head and black sides with white spots sat on a branch.

  • ... that while Red-and-yellow Barbets (male pictured) are tame in areas where they are not persecuted, they are hunted by the Maasai for their feathers?

5x expanded by J Milburn (talk). Nominated by J Milburn (talk) at 18:55, 20 September 2010 (UTC)


The Park Centre for Mental Health

created by CybergothiChé (talk). Self nom at 1:41, 21 September 2010 (AEST)

Joe A. Guerra

  • ... that Joe A. Guerra, a 20-year member of the Laredo, Texas, City Council, once grabbed a shovel to remove a dead animal from an inquiring constitutent's residence?

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 00:11, 21 September 2010 (UTC)


ALT:that Joe A. Guerra, an active Republican in heavily Democratic Laredo, Texas, won five elections to the city council but on the nonpartisan ballot required for municipal offices in his state?

David Sibley (Texas politician)

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 23:52, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

Ann Dexter Gordon

Created by Binksternet (talk). Self nom at 23:07, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

Olaf Kullmann

Created by Geschichte (talk). Self nom at 21:13, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

Alessandro Portelli

Created by Dwalls (talk). Self nom at 20:13, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

White Knuckles

  • ... that the band OK Go's music video for "White Knuckles" is a one-shot take of the band interacting with twelve trained dogs and a goat?

Created by Masem (talk). Self nom at 18:18, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

Operation Pike

Created by Martintg (talk). Self nom at 18:06, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

Well it would be great to find more sources, but it is a very obscure topic. The source used, Osborn's book Operation Pike. Britain Versus the Soviet Union, 1939-1941 is very well regarded. For example Keith Neilson (who himself is a Professor of history and author of several books on Anglo-Russian relations) reviewed the book in the academic journal "Diplomacy and Statecraft". He writes: "Osborn, an archivist for the American National Archives and Records Administration, has provided a very useful study of British policy towards the Soviet Union from 1939 to 1941 and, in particular, of the little-known Anglo-french plans to attack the Soviet Union in the period from September 1939 to June 1940."
In conclusion, Neilson writes: "This is a very good book on a limited topic. It does not promise more than it deliveres, its documentary base is exemplary and its conclusions are judicious and carefully considered."
--Martin (talk) 04:59, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
  • Sounds good.
  • What do you think of this as an alternative hook;
ALT1 ... that the Nazis claimed the successful Blitzkrieg against France in 1940 saved the Soviet Union from an allied strategic bombing campaign called Operation Pike?
(I also considered replacing "allied" with "Anglo-French" but I think keeping the wider term makes it potentially more eye-catching) --Demiurge1000 (talk) 00:35, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
  • Another thing - I'm not sure the picture can be used, since we'd need to say something like "against Soviet oil facilities (example pictured)" which makes the hook rather more clumsy and also takes away some of the mystery. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 00:38, 23 September 2010 (UTC)

William Coblentz (California)

Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 17:18, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

Robert Jenkins Onderdonk

Fall of the Alamo

Created/expanded by Adrienlenoir (talk) and Drmies (talk) at 17:44, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

  • Verified. I didn't see a source for the birthplace, so I added one. I added a "pictured", but feel free to reword and/or move that. I also upgraded the credit for Drmies from DYKnom to DYKmake, as his substantial expansion made the DYK possible. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 19:58, 20 September 2010 (UTC)


Mecklenburg's Garden

5x expanded by Nyttend (talk). Self nom at 13:24, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

Gaza Baptist Church

created by User:AMuseo and User:CMBJ (talk) (talk) . Nominated by User:AMuseo (talk) 20 September 2010 (UTC)

I'm admittedly biased as a person who contributed to the article, but I concur that this would make an interesting DYK entry.   — C M B J   22:40, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

Alfred Marshall Bailey

Created by Maias (talk). Self nom at 11:54, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

Dodge Morgan

  • ... that radar detector millionaire Dodge Morgan at age 54 sailed solo around the globe without stops in 150 days, shattering the prior record of 292 days?

Created by Cbl62 (talk). Self nom at 06:17, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

Arthur's Quest: Battle for the Kingdom

Created by Nomader (talk). Self nom at 06:07, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

Pahuk

Created by Ammodramus (talk). Nominated by Nyttend (talk) at 04:33, 20 September 2010 (UTC)


M-6 (Michigan highway)

  • ... that during the "Southbelt Shuffle" event on M-6 south of Grand Rapids, Michigan, horses were ridden on the partially completed freeway?

5x expanded by Imzadi1979 (talk). Self nom at 03:15, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on September 19

Sirmilik National Park

Sirmilk National Park

5x expanded by Dr. Blofeld (talk), Rosiestep (talk), Nvvchar (talk). Nominated by Dr. Blofeld (talk) at 11:11, 23 September 2010 (UTC)

  • By my count (from the last revision prior to Blofield's expansion on Sept. 19) prose not quite expanded 5 fold: original character count about 1650, current count about 7700. Good additions though! -- P 1 9 9 • TALK 17:10, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
The edit prior to the beginning of expansion was on June 9, when the article had 337 characters of prose. After the expansion which began September 19, it's currently at 7559. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 19:52, 23 September 2010 (UTC)

Thado Minsaw of Prome, Prome Kingdom

Created by Hybernator (talk). Nominated by GeeJo (talk) at 15:11, 23 September 2010 (UTC)

Formerly the Warlocks

Created by Mudwater (talk). Nominated by GeeJo (talk) at 14:54, 23 September 2010 (UTC)

September War for Šibenik

Created by Jesuislafete (talk). Nominated by GeeJo (talk) at 23:30, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

Family (Blumenfeld)

Created by Claudiamoon (talk). Nominated by GeeJo (talk) at 20:48, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

Sopwith Cobham

Created by Nigel Ish (talk). Nominated by GeeJo (talk) at 20:30, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

Port Phillip District Special Surveys

Created by Billingd (talk). Nominated by GeeJo (talk) at 19:53, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

Anton von Zach

Created by Djmaschek (talk). Nominated by GeeJo (talk) at 19:38, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

George W. Rice

Created by Innapoy (talk). Nominated by GeeJo (talk) at 19:27, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

Colt Model 1878

A pair of revolvers

Created by Engineer comp geek (talk). Nominated by GeeJo (talk) at 19:16, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

2010 Slovenia floods

Flooding in Slovenia

  • ... that severe floods, one of the worst in country's history, affected Slovenia last weekend?
  • Comment: ALT 1 ... that heavy rains in mid-September 2010 caused flooding in many parts of Slovenia, including the capital Ljubljana (pictured).

There are several free photos available in the article, I leave the choice to the evaluating admin. Created by Tone (talk). Self nom at 15:21, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

Rodolph Crandall

Created by Aboutmovies (talk). Nominated by Aboutmovies (talk) at 05:16, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

Islamization of the Gaza Strip

created by User:AMuseo User:Marokwitz (talk).(talk Nominated by User:AMuseo (talk) 21 September 2010 (UTC)

Enough Is Enough (organization)

  • ... that as a leader of the anti-Internet pornography organization Enough Is Enough, a former political sex scandal "other woman" became an influential Washington, D.C., lobbyist?

Created by Wasted Time R (talk). Self nom at 02:39, 21 September 2010 (UTC)

  • Size, age OK, hook referenced. The end of the hook is a bit awkward; how about: ...became an influential lobbyist in Washington, D.C.?

Washington, D.C. should also be wikified. Maybe pornography and other woman, too. Otherwise, good to go. Adabow (talk · contribs) 00:27, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

Golden Submarine

Created by Chipguy21 (talk), Royalbroil (talk). Nominated by Royalbroil (talk) at 02:17, 21 September 2010 (UTC)

  • If the ALT is selected, then the fact that this is a car not a submarine should be included. Another key point is that this car debuted in 1917 - because it's not very fast by today's standards. Royalbroil 13:43, 25 September 2010 (UTC)
  • No - that's a really bad idea. The whole point of DYK is to intrigue people into clicking through to read the new article, and a bit of misdirection can really help to pique people's interest. A 100mph submarine is surprising and will get a lot of clickthroughs, a 100mph car is much less interesting, even for 1917. Le Deluge (talk) 14:06, 25 September 2010 (UTC)

Batoufam

5x expanded by Dr. Blofeld (talk), Rosiestep (talk). Nominated by Rosiestep (talk) at 14:09, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

San Juan de Silicia

Created by Brianann MacAmhlaidh (talk). Self nom at 09:03, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

Eastern Promenade

View of Casco Bay from the Eastern Promenade Park

Created by Namiba (talk). Nominated by Namiba (talk) at 04:11, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

Mount Pleasant (Indian Falls, New York)

A square white house with green window shutters, wide overhanging eaves and a small square tower in the middle of the roof seen from a corner angle

5x expanded by Daniel Case (talk). Nominated by Daniel Case (talk) at 03:44, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

Christian bookstore, Gaza

  • ... that the only Christian bookstore in Gaza closed after its owner was beaten and murdered by armed extremists?

created by User:AMuseo (talk). Nominated by User:AMuseo (talk) 20 September 2010 (UTC)

Done.AMuseo (talk) 11:50, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
A glance at the article or at the AFD will show the baselessness of the AFD.AMuseo (talk) 11:50, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
If an article is nominated for deletion, the DYK nomination remains in the queue until the discussion is closed. Then it gets reviewed for DYK. I wouldn't be worried if I were you. Royalbroil 02:12, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

Canadian Air-Sea Transportable Brigade Group

Created by Maury Markowitz (talk). Self nom at 23:25, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

*Also, USST may refer to:, the United States Ski Team, the University of Saskatchewan Space Design Team, or the University of Shanghai for Science and Technology, China; is USSR intended? --Demiurge1000 (talk) 00:20, 20 September 2010 (UTC) Someone fixed that part --Demiurge1000 (talk) 08:44, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
Oops, that was me, I fixed both issues and failed to post a note. Maury Markowitz (talk) 10:52, 21 September 2010 (UTC)

Frederick E. Morgan

5x expanded by Hawkeye7 (talk) 22:09, 19 September 2010 (UTC). Self nom at 22:08, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

Adelaide leak

Created by Sarastro1 (talk). Self nom at 20:43, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

Anything to do with Bradman would be very hooky outside North America, and the dispute over writing newspaper columns is an interesting angle with modern resonance. Le Deluge (talk) 12:59, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

Toyota Celica LB Turbo

Created by Donnie Park (talk). Nominated by Donnie Park (talk) at 20:37, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

Paul S. Martin, Paul Sidney Martin

Created by User:Davidlchandler and yours truly. - East of Borschov 19:16, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

  • Comment: Why is it surprising or eye-catching that the university of Arizona should employ anthropologists? To put that another way, are there perhaps some more interesting facts about these two individuals? --Demiurge1000 (talk) 00:36, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

Tamaulipas massacre

Created by Piotrus (talk). Nominated by Piotrus (talk) at 18:29, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

Ambam

  • ... that in January 2010, the mayor of Ambam was arrested and accused of the embezzlement of 20 million CFA Francs?

5x expanded by Dr. Blofeld (talk). Nominated by Dr. Blofeld (talk) at 16:16, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

Prose originally less than 500 bytes. More than expanded x5. Dr. Blofeld 16:17, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

UAAP Season 73 men's basketball tournament

Created by Howard the Duck (talk). Nominated by Howard the Duck (talk) at 16:05, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

It's 233 characters. How about the following, which is exactly 200? MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 18:01, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
I'd prefer the coach being named. Why not ditch "double lane violation" and change it to "jump ball" since that was his purpose in instructing his player to cross the lane? –HTD (ITN: Where no updates but is stickied happens.) 18:13, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
Okay. ALT2 is also 200 characters. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 18:47, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
Verified. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 19:44, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 18:52, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

Vespa luctuosa

Created by IronGargoyle (talk). Self nom at 15:26, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

Brijesh Mishra

Created by LogicDictates 13:49, 19 September 2010 (UTC). Nominated by LogicDictates 13:49, 19 September 2010 (UTC).

Alpiq

Created by Bine Mai (talk). Nominated by Bine Mai (talk) at 13:19, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

  • OK, so a Swiss power generating company has a stake in a Swiss power generating facility. But is this really interesting or surprising or unusual?
Maybe you should add ", the tallest gravity dam in the world" to the end of it? (Although there might be issues with exactly how that fact is sourced.)
Or try a hook along the lines that although most of Alpiq's power generation is from hydroelectric or geothermal sources, it's currently investing in a solar power station in Sicily? Still not exactly fascinating, but it adds a bit of variety at least. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 02:58, 23 September 2010 (UTC)

The West Wing (season 7)

5x expanded by Rambo's Revenge (talk). Self nom at 11:48, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

Samuel Rabin (artist)

Created by DavidCane (talk). Self nom at 03:13, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on September 18

Tensile testing

A tensile testing machine

Created by Wizard191 (talk). Self nom at 23:14, 24 September 2010 (UTC)

  • Don't take me wrong - it is a very useful article and nomination, but the hook is impossible (no such thing as "the most fundamental material test", sounds as a sale phrase) and is supported by a spammish ref. There are plenty of books to cover this topic, would you be willing to update this hook and ref. 1, please? Materialscientist (talk) 00:00, 25 September 2010 (UTC)

Pearl Rivers

Photograph of a woman with short black hair, wearing a feather boa around her neck

Created by Uncle G (talk). 5x expansion by Aymatth2 (talk) at 14:25, 23 September 2010 (UTC)

  • The article was created by Uncle G on September 18 and expanded thereafter by Aymatth2, so I adjusted the credits accordingly. 5x expansion verified. Date, length OK. Offline hook ref AGF. Tweaked hook and rollover picture text, and it's good to go. Yoninah (talk) 00:30, 27 September 2010 (UTC)


Kreutzer Air Coach

  • ... that there is only a single extant example of the K-5 Air Coach aircraft?

Created by RuthAS (talk). Nominated by GeeJo (talk) at 18:31, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

  • Date, length OK. Offline hook ref AGF. I'm a little confused by the References section, though. The Notes only cite 2 sources, but the References cite 4. Can you fit the other 2 sources into inline citations? Yoninah (talk) 00:39, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

Portrait of Mary Adeline Williams

An oil painting of a middle-aged white woman with an austere expression on her face. She is dressed in an antiquated black dress, slightly reflective, with a white collar

Created/expanded by JNW (talk). Nominated by GeeJo (talk) at 18:16, 22 September 2010 (UTC)



  • Verified. Offline sources AGF. Whoever loads this into prep can decide on which painting depending on whether they feel "radiantly affectionate" or "worn and strained." I prefer the current out of the two, it is a little brighter.--NortyNort (Holla) 09:02, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

Processing fluency theory of aesthetic pleasure, Processing fluency

Created by Fuzzy artist (talk), Miegoreng (talk). Nominated by GeeJo (talk) at 17:55, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

August von Haxthausen

Created by Languagehat (talk). Nominated by GeeJo (talk) at 17:04, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

Zhuge Shuang

Created by Nlu (talk). Nominated by GeeJo (talk) at 15:00, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

2007–08 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team

Created by Court Jester (talk). Nominated by TonyTheTiger (talk) at 02:08, 22 September 2010 (UTC)


Feathered Helmet, The Death of Captain James Cook (Zoffany)

man in helmet made from feathers but looks ancient Greek in shape

  • Comment: ref in ledes

Created/expanded by Victuallers Victuallers (talk) 08:19, 22 September 2010 (UTC)


Jonas Mouton

5x expanded by TonyTheTiger (talk). Nominated by TonyTheTiger (talk) at 02:44, 21 September 2010 (UTC)

Fyodor Petrovich Komissarzhevsky

Photograph of a man standing, wearing leather books, knee-length tunic and feathered hat

  • Comment: I wasn't sure what date to list this for. The article was created as a 28 word stub on 16 September by User:Neddyseagoon which I expanded to 630 words (3473 characters) on 18 September. The hook is based on the 6th and 7th sentences of the second paragraph of the Biography section. The article uses a shortened footnote format for the inline citations. Consult the Sources section for full bibliographic information and links for the citations.

5x expanded by Voceditenore (talk). Self nom at 08:33, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

  • ALT 2 ... that the 19th century Russian tenor Fyodor Petrovich Komissarzhevsky (pictured) sang in Italy under the name of "Teodoro di Pietro"?

    (based on the 3rd sentence of the first paragraph of the Biography section.)

Rebecca Nolin

Created by 90.221.202.90 (talk). Nominated by Strange Passerby (talk) at 07:16, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

  • These facts all seem quite mundane&mash;don't most footballers switch teams from tiem to time? Not meaning to be harsh, but is there any more interesting fact, or can this one be made to sound more interesting? rʨanaɢ (talk) 13:05, 25 September 2010 (UTC)
  • I think ALT2 is interesting enough. I admit perhaps my original two weren't that great, but I was trying to play on "Chelsea (Ladies) captain" playing in the U.S. — it's not a logical jump in men's football. So I think ALT2 works this way. Strange Passerby (talk • c • status) 11:26, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

John Durkin (footballer)

Created by ChrisTheDude (talk). Self nom at 21:03, 18 September 2010 (UTC)

  • The non-parallel structure of the hook, though, is a bit awk (a sort of syllepsis). I would suggest a rewording such as
Well, he presumably didn't literally work at the mine while playing football..... ;-) -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 20:09, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

Piotrków Trybunalski Castle

Piotrków Trybunalski Castle

Created by BurgererSF (talk) 16:36, 18 September 2010 (UTC). Self nom at 16:36, 18 September 2010 (UTC)

Bell Savage Inn

Created by Shadygrove2007 (talk). Self nom at 16:28, 18 September 2010 (UTC)

  • Article length, history, and source check out. But I found at least one passage that had wording taken directly from the source material without quotation marks (and it's the only section I looked at closely). As a rule of thumb, once one passage is found to be suspect, the whole article needs to be checked. rʨanaɢ (talk) 16:35, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
  • We AGF in the beginning, but the point is if plagiarism is found somewhere in the article, the whole article is suspect; if you've already slipped in one part of the article, there's no guarantee that you didn't slip elsewhere too; you yourself seem to have now acknowledged that you did this on other passages as well. Trying to deflect scrutiny by wikilawyering doesn't help either. rʨanaɢ (talk) 17:01, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
  • It seems no one has checked this article for plagiarism yet. rʨanaɢ (talk) 12:49, 25 September 2010 (UTC)
    • I would suggest it's not on DYK reviewers to check for further plagiarism, but rather if Shadygrove2007 wants his article on the main page and wants the DYK, he will come clean about any other instances of plagiarisim within the article. I'm not going to be passing it until he does so. Strange Passerby (talk • c • status) 04:02, 26 September 2010 (UTC)
      • Yeah, I was mostly trying to hint that it's probably time to remove this. I won't be removing it myself because I'm the one who {{DYKno}}'ed it, but it looks like Shadygrove has abandoned this article, so I don't see any point letting it sit around any longer. rʨanaɢ (talk) 05:03, 26 September 2010 (UTC)
Serious content issues not addressed more than 8 days after nominator acknowledged them. Article simply cannot be displayed on the front page in its current state. - Dravecky (talk) 06:05, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

Peligroso Amor

Created by Jaespinoza (talk) 00:37, 18 September 2010 (UTC). Self nom at 00:37, 18 September 2010 (UTC)

  • Length and date are ok, but the ref doesn't verify this claim; it only says it was her first number-one song on Billboard Hot Latin Tracks, not first in the US overall. Also, the wording of the hook is ambiguous and should be changed:

Special occasion holding area

Note: Articles nominated for a special occasion should be nominated within five days of creation or expansion as usual (with the exception of April Fools' Day 2011 - see Misplaced Pages:April Fool's Main Page/Did You Know). Also, articles should be nominated at least five days before the occasion to give reviewers time to check the nomination.

For October 1

Wait for me, Daddy

soldiers marching down the street with a boy chasing his father

new by Esemono (talk). Self nom at 08:30, 05 September 2010 (UTC)

and Canadian picture is OK too. Victuallers (talk) 15:54, 6 September 2010 (UTC)

For 31 October, Hallowe'en

  • The 2010 Halloween collection has started early. My interpretation of whats happening is ... 1. Move your hook to the bottom of the page (ie here) 2. You may get some more macabre, funny etc suggestions for a hook and it should get DYKtick'ed. 3. Then after its been there about 24 hours or so it gets moved off to the dedicated page. 4. Then about three or four days before Oct 31 we sort out the 40 or so hooks into "8"s (so they are ready to load on the 36 hours or so that is Halloween internationally). 5. We do the awards and 6 .... and please help with all of this. It only works if we all do a bit Victuallers (talk) 08:22, 20 September 2010 (UTC)


Beginning of the End

5x expanded by Tim1965 (talk). Self nom at 16:21, 25 September 2010 (UTC)

Ben Cooper, Inc.

Created by Tim1965 (talk). Self nom at 01:07, 21 September 2010 (UTC)

  • Only in places where there's a JC Penney. Trust me, that subclause just doesn't work outside the US, and to be honest it's redundant, it could just be struck out entirely. Or as Victuallers says, the "high priest" version is a ready-made alternative that needs no knowledge of US culture, and thus is a better hook. WTGR Tim, you really need to think a bit more globally - 50% of en.wiki users are outside the US, and that proportion is growing. Le Deluge (talk) 08:54, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

Devils River (Wisconsin)

Created by Tim1965 (talk). Self nom at 13:47, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

  • ALT1.. that two U.S. Presidents nearly lost their lives in the Devils River?
Just an idea Victuallers (talk) 07:40, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

For January 1, 2011, Seal of the Federal Bureau of Investigation

Expanded and self-nominated by ChrisO (talk) 20:50, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
This nomination is a bit of a special case. I originally nominated Seal of the Federal Bureau of Investigation on August 3 following a 5x expansion (see discussion above under #Articles created/expanded on August 3). Everyone accepted that it met the DYK criteria but the nomination was derailed by a political dispute over timing. I've put forward a compromise at User talk:Jimbo Wales#Compromise proposal, which involves passing this DYK now but scheduling its appearance on January 1, 2011, which is 60 years to the day since the seal was first used. This proposal has been generally welcomed so I'm putting it forward here for formal consideration. I'm aware that the timeframe is somewhat longer than would be usual for scheduled DYKs, but in the circumstances I think a some flexibility would be justified. I've put forward two possible hooks: the original one as proposed earlier, and a new alternative tying the DYK in more directly with the date. -- ChrisO (talk) 20:50, 13 August 2010 (UTC)

  • Interesting compromise. It completely flipped my opinion of the matter. However, prior to providing said opinion, I'd like some clarification: Are we nominating this (with whichever hook) sans image as you initially suggested on Jimbo's talk page?
    --K10wnsta (talk) 00:39, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
  • Appended: I see that you removed the image from inclusion in the original nomination, so I'll assume this post-dated nomination would not include the image either. However, this necessitates further clarification:
Are we excluding the image from this DYK solely because of the recent interaction with the FBI?
--K10wnsta (talk) 01:05, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
In effect yes, but in my view it's a necessary evil if we're to reach a satisfactory compromise on this issue. -- ChrisO (talk) 01:16, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
  • - Tentative Even if the motivation behind qualifying this article for DYK was questionable, I think you already achieved not just a satisfactory compromise, but a completely valid and justifiable use for it. In fact, it's use is so valid, refusing to use the image for no other reason than the recent hoobajoo with the FBI is blatantly (chilled) censorship...and I just can't get behind that. If we're going to censor it, we need to go whole hog or don't go at all.
    Could we put it up for 'On This Day' to avoid reasoning for exclusion of the image?
    --K10wnsta (talk) 01:51, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
  • No opinion on whether to feature on the future date; however, it would be better if this hook didn't remain on the suggestions page for the intervening months, as it is bound to attract further discussion and the page is unwieldy enough as it is. Espresso Addict (talk) 01:55, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
Espresso's suggestion may be useful for more than just making this page leaner. A delay in nomination would lend to better perspective for those establishing consensus. In other words, removing it from discussion for a couple months would also put some time between recent events and the article (and hopefully image) being contemplated for a main page feature (unless such a delay would disqualify it from use in DYK section).
--K10wnsta (talk) 02:12, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
Comment This hook should not "disappear" for a few months. It is far better to leave it here to enable a wide input from editors on the issue. I think this is a good compromise that involves common sense, the proposal and special treatment of the timescale fitting nicely under WP:IAR. Mjroots (talk) 13:53, 15 August 2010 (UTC)
  • Nothing of what I said was or is a personal attack. I know you greatly dislike ChrisO and myself, but could you please not try and push an already outdated issue? Silverseren 14:42, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

I do not support 1 January 2011. The DYK section is for new articles. There are exceptions like April Fools and Halloween; I do not see the point of making every day of the year a possible exception. Geschichte (talk) 20:28, 6 September 2010 (UTC)

  • Oppose Anniversary or not, a four-month wait at DYK is an overkill. The point of DYK is to present new or newly expanded articles, not to present "on this day". By then this article will be more than four months old. If this line of though is going to be followed, DYK is going to end up in a mess. The length of this entry is plain evidence for why keeping things around for almost five months is not a good idea. Arsenikk 13:55, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
  • per IAR. I would count this as a valid use of IAR. This could have gone up for today. The only reason it isn't going up is for political reasons. I disagree with Jimbo and others on that matter and think we should run it now, but there is no need to reject it entirely on that basis. NW (Talk) 03:03, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
  • Support' as this would have been promoted in the usual time window if not for the decision to shelve it until the political heat was off. To kill it now because a delay was agreed to would be an egregious abuse of trust. - Dravecky (talk) 09:24, 9 September 2010 (UTC)

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