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::The additional sources (on Polish Theater and Drama!?!??) hardly address the issue. I've restored the two separate articles which you are attempting to delete. There's nothing "unfortunate" about this. | ::The additional sources (on Polish Theater and Drama!?!??) hardly address the issue. I've restored the two separate articles which you are attempting to delete. There's nothing "unfortunate" about this. | ||
::Again, where does a particular source say that these treaties all "concerned the same dispute", as you have it in the hook?] (]) 17:22, 9 September 2010 (UTC) | ::Again, where does a particular source say that these treaties all "concerned the same dispute", as you have it in the hook?] (]) 17:22, 9 September 2010 (UTC) | ||
I provided more than ten additional sources ]. The "separate articles" I am allegedly "trying to delete" are in fact the two halfs of my article which you decided to split, and which I have undone per BRD. You have moved the sections on Merseburg (1002), Merseburg (1013) and Bautzen (1018) to ], and the sections on Bautzen (1031) and Merseburg (1033) to ], which I regard ill-advised and for which I had started the ], which is open. I'd appreciate if you would self-revert. The sources referencing individual or a bunch of the treaties as well as additional sources provided on talk all confirm that all the treaties are about the investment with ] and the legal status of the Piasts with respect to the emperor. ] (]) 18:22, 9 September 2010 (UTC) | |||
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Candidate entries
Articles created/expanded on September 9
Figure skating at the 1952 Winter Olympics - Men's singles
- ... that Dick Button performed the first triple jump in competition at the men's figure skating event at the 1952 Winter Olympics?
Created by H1nkles (talk). Nominated by User:H1nkles (talk) at 17:49, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
Lawson Wood
- ... that English illustrator and designer Lawson Wood was a recluse in his later years and dwelt in a 15th-century medieval manor house he moved brick by brick from Sussex to the Kent border?
5x expanded by Susanne2009NYC (talk). Nominated by Susanne2009NYC (talk) at 17:05, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
St John the Baptist's Church, Pilling
- ... that the flushwork decorating parts of St John the Baptist's Church, Pilling, Lancashire, (pictured) is in two colours of sandstone rather than the more usual materials of flint and stone?
Created/expanded by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 15:31, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
John Schuyler Crosby
- ... that Montana Territorial Governor John Schuyler Crosby (pictured) fought and subdued a crazed knife weilding valet from his sick bed?
- ALT1:.. that Montana Territorial Governor John Schuyler Crosby (pictured) was awarded the Order of the Crown of Italy for his efforts to capture and prosecute forgers?
5x expanded by Allen3 (talk). Self nom at 15:02, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
Charles Folkard
- ... that Charles Folkard created the first British daily newspaper cartoon strip, The Adventures of Teddy Tail, for the Daily Mail in April 1915?
5x expanded by Susanne2009NYC (talk). Nominated by Susanne2009NYC (talk) at 14:53, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
Ian Leigh
- ... that after keeping a clean sheet in an FA Cup match against defending champions Manchester United, Bournemouth goalkeeper Ian Leigh was rewarded with a lifetime supply of pizzas from a local Italian restaurant?
Created by GiantSnowman (talk). Nominated by GiantSnowman (talk) at 14:35, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
Luiz Gonzaga Dam
- ... that the Luiz Gonzaga Dam in Brazil was renamed in honor of Luiz Gonzaga who is known as the "king of Baião" and "Gonzagão"?
Created/self-nom by--NortyNort (Holla) 11:57, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
Michael Hixon
- ... that the parents of diving world junior silver medalist and Youth Olympic bronze medalist Michael Hixon are both coaches in American collegiate sports?
- ALT1: ... that the Youth Olympic bronze medalist in the boys' 3 meter springboard, Michael Hixon, is the son of the 2007 NCAA Men's Division III Basketball Tournament champion head coach?
- ALT2: ... that 2010 Summer Youth Olympics diving bronze medalist Michael Hixon's parents are both coaches in American collegiate sports?
5x expanded by Strange Passerby (talk). Self nom at 11:45, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
- Comment: ALT 2 is a varied version of the original hook in case "world junior silver medalist" doesn't sound right (not exactly "world junior champion", after all). ALT 1 is a different alternate, but might be slightly hampered by not including his father's name as his father, whilst notable, doesn't (yet) have an article. Strange Passerby (talk) 16:52, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
The Daydreamer (novel)
- ... that Eva Maria Mauter wrote that the 1994 children's book The Daydreamer by Ian McEwan gets neglected in treatment about McEwan's works because it is a children's novel?
Created by Christopher Connor (talk). Self nom at 08:33, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
Lewis Carroll: A Biography
- ... that the 1995 biography of Lewis Carroll, Lewis Carroll: A Biography, by Morton N. Cohen is generally considered to be the definite scholarly work on Carroll's life?
Created by Christopher Connor (talk). Self nom at 07:36, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
- Are we not insulting peoples intelligence to mention that "LeWis Carroll: A Biography" is a biography about Lewis Carroll and then just in case they forgot since it was mentioned twice at the start of the hook then we remind them at the end that the book is about Carroll's life. I would obviously like to mention this point again and then summarise it again but I'm hoping Ive made a point anyway. DYK... that Lewis Carroll: A Biography, by Morton N. Cohen is considered to be the definitive work on Carroll's life? Victuallers (talk) 16:18, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
Nipisat
- ... that Nipisat's well preserved Saqqaq culture archaeological site in Greenland contains some stone artifacts that were previously unknown from the Saqqaq culture?
Created by Rosiestep (talk). Self nom at 04:34, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
Wessiea
- ... that the extinct fern Wessiea is known from the "Ho ho" locality in Yakima County, Washington?
Created by Kevmin (talk). Self nom at 01:41, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on September 8
Old St John the Baptist's Church, Pilling
- ... that Old St John the Baptist's Church, Pilling, Lancashire, is an unusual survival of a small Georgian church?
Created by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 14:54, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
Alrosa Mirny Air Enterprise Flight 514
- ... that after leaving the aircraft by evacuation slide, some passengers from Alrosa Mirny Air Enterprise Flight 514 (aircraft involved pictured) foraged for mushrooms whilst awaiting rescue?
Created by Mjroots (talk). Nominated by Mjroots (talk) at 12:19, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
Presidential elections in Singapore
- ... that a potential candidate for a presidential election in Singapore (President's official residence pictured) must apply for a certificate of eligibility to show he has the necessary qualifications to be nominated?
5x expanded by Xiejiayan (talk) and Smuconlaw (talk). Nominated by Smuconlaw (talk) at 05:26, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
- The article was worked on in a sandbox and moved into the article namespace on 8 September 2010. — SMUconlaw (talk) 07:24, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
Blackedge whipray
- ... that the blackedge whipray is known in Tamil as the "salt-like ray"?
Created by Yzx (talk). Self nom at 04:04, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
Carl Weinrich
- ... that the American organist, Carl Weinrich, performed the premieres of Samuel Barber's Prelude and Fugue in B Minor, Louis Vierne's Organ Symphony No. 6, and Arnold Schoenberg's Variations on a Recitative?
- Comment: The article uses a shortened footnote format for the inline citations. Consult the Sources section for full bibliographic information and links for the citations. The hook is based on the first sentence of the second paragraph of the Biography section. The character count is 1673 (not including headings or bulletted lists).
Created by Voceditenore (talk). Nominated by Voceditenore (talk) at 23:47, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
Alexander Volkov (fighter)
- ... that despite turning professional just over a year prior, Alexander Volkov reached the final of the M-1 Global Eastern Europe tournament?
Created by Paralympiakos (talk). Self nom at 23:06, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
Norcon pillbox
- ... that the Norcon pillbox (pictured) has been described as "possibly the most dangerous, cheap and nasty of all pillbox designs"?
Created by Gaius Cornelius (talk). Self nom at 22:52, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
- Note: moved from user space to main space today. Gaius Cornelius (talk) 22:55, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
Ada Mills
- ... that Ada Mills, a businesswoman from Clarksville, Arkansas, was the only delegate in the country initially committed in 1980 to presidential candidate John Connally?
Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 21:41, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
- ALT=... that the Arkansas River bridge between Johnson and Logan counties in Arkansas is named for Ada Mills, who lobbied forty years for the project?
Hemilepistus reaumuri
- ... that the woodlouse Hemilepistus reaumuri (pictured) can only survive in the desert because it looks after its young?
Created by Stemonitis (talk). Self nom at 21:01, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
- Good to go. Smartse (talk) 21:44, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
Kingsway, Southport
- ... that the Kingsway (pictured) was one of the first gig venues for the Beatles band member Ringo Starr after joining the band in 1962?
Created by User:Bankhallbretherton (talk). Self nom at 21:05, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
Karen MacNeil
- ... that author and wine educator Karen MacNeil's book The Wine Bible was ten years in the making?
Created by Murgh (talk). Self nom at 19:32, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
Saint George Maronite Cathedral
- ... that the cathedra at Beirut's Saint George Maronite Cathedral was the armchair used by Pope John Paul II during his 1997 visit to Lebanon?
Created by Eli+. Nominated by Eli+ at 19:21, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
Operation Power Flite
- ... that Operation Power Flite, in which three U.S. Air Force B-52s flew non-stop around the world, was made to show that "the United States had the ability to drop a hydrogen bomb anywhere in the world"?
Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 18:52, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
The All-American Nightmare
- ... that Hinder's lead singer, Austin Winkler, considers the band's upcoming album, The All-American Nightmare, to be the record he is proudest of?
5x expanded by C628 (talk). Nominated by C628 (talk) at 18:30, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
Colonia Hipódromo
- ... that Colonia Hipódromo was home to refugees from the Spanish Civil War?
Created by Thelmadatter (talk). Self nom at 18:23, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
911 Is a Joke
- ... that "911 Is a Joke" was Public Enemy's second number-one hit on the rap charts, and was later covered by Duran Duran?
5x expanded by 28bytes (talk). Self nom at 17:08, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
- Should we use this on September 11? Smartse (talk) 21:49, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
- Heh. You know, I didn't even think about 9/11 being that close when I started the article, but yeah, that would be pretty apt given the whole Washington Post thing. 28bytes (talk) 00:23, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
Canpotex
- ... that Canpotex manages the entire Saskatchewan potash-exporting industry, representing one-third of global capacity?
Created/expanded by M.nelson (talk). Self nom at 16:50, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
- Only 1484 characters at the moment. Bullet points don't count, so maybe rewrite the Member Producers section and turn it into prose. Smartse (talk) 21:51, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
- My initial count was over 1500, but I expanded it ~250 characters in any case. Cheers, -M.Nelson (talk) 22:31, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
John Lynch (radio)
- ... that radio mogul John Lynch was initially drafted to play football for the Pittsburgh Steelers, but joined the broadcasting industry instead because of a knee injury?
Created by Edge3 (talk). Self nom at 15:40, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
Alicia M. Soderberg
- ... that the detection of supernova SN 2008D on January 9, 2008, by Alicia M. Soderberg using data from NASA's Swift X-ray space telescope marked the first time a supernova was observed as it occurred?
Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 15:27, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
Seymour Pine
- ... that NYPD deputy inspector Seymour Pine justified his June 1969 raid of the Stonewall Inn (pictured) that helped spark the gay rights movement in the U.S. as until that night "they never gave you any trouble"?
Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 15:03, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
- Comment: Added a link to Stonewall riots#Police raid in hook. -M.Nelson (talk) 16:53, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
Who's That Girl (film)
- ... that the film Who's That Girl? features a live cougar, which escaped one day from the set, before shooting started?
5x expanded by Legolas2186 (talk). Nominated by Andrzejbanas (talk) at 14:59, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
UK City of Culture
- ... that the first ever UK City of Culture will be Derry in 2013?
Created by User:Cordless Larry (talk). Self nom at 14:46, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
- New article. Hook verified. Good to go. Gaius Cornelius (talk) 12:07, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
Jindo Island, Yellow Sea
- ... that every year, a narrow land pass opens for a few hours between Modo and Jindo Islands in the Yellow Sea?
5x expanded by Materialscientist (talk). Nominated by Materialscientist (talk) at 12:24, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
- Comment - see Jindo Island, perhaps ref. 18 first. Materialscientist (talk) 23:34, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
HMS Loke (1869)
- ... that the Swedish monitor HMS Loke made only seven short cruises in her career, the last in late 1880, and was not commissioned again before she was advertised for sale in 1908?
5x expanded by Sturmvogel 66 (talk). Nominated by Sturmvogel 66 (talk) at 03:29, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on September 7
Daniel Dole, Edmund Pearson Dole, Wigglesworth Dole
- ... that descendants of Wigglesworth Dole in Hawaii included missionary Daniel Dole, Governor Sanford B. Dole, pineaple planter James Dole and Attorney General Edmund Dole?
- Comment: I thought of one article for the family, but broke it up for easier navigation (with a family tree navbox). Wigglesworth (love that name) was created September 8, others on the 7th after development in my sandbox. Does it make sense to link the titles as proposed? There are more but need to keep the hook reasonable size.
Created by W Nowicki (talk). Nominated by W Nowicki (talk) at 00:27, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
Medicine Rocks State Park
- ... that Theodore Roosevelt called Medicine Rocks in Montana "as fantastically beautiful a place as I have ever seen"?
Created by Tim1965 (talk). Self nom at 13:35, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
- Length and date check out, off-line reference for hook accepted in good faith. Nice article! Voceditenore (talk) 13:45, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
25th Legislative District (New Jersey)
- ... that when Gordon MacInnes won a State Senate seat in 1993 in the 25th Legislative District he became the first Democrat from Morris County in 18 years to be elected to the New Jersey Legislature?
Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 12:35, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
Treaties of Bautzen and Merseburg
- ... that the five treaties of Bautzen and Merseburg, concluded between 1002 and 1033, all concerned the same dispute?
Created by Skäpperöd (talk). Nominated by Skäpperöd (talk) at 11:48, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
- Comment: There was an unsourced stub "Peace of Bautzen", which I redirected . Skäpperöd (talk) 11:50, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
- Both the article as it currently is and the hook are a WP:SYNTHESIS. I don't see a source which says that all these treaties, concerned the same dispute (they didn't). In fact I don't see a source which discusses the 1018 (and earlier) treaties together with the 1031 and 1033 treaties - these involved different individuals (different dynasties even), ended different wars and concerned different issues. Please see article talk page for discussion. There were two sets of treaties here and the article needs to be split into two, one on the Peace of Bautzen 1018 (per the article that was "deleted" out of process through a redirect) and one on the Peace of Merseburg 1033. Of course, once the two are split, they can be nominated for DYK as separate articles, provided some of the other problems (POV, skewed sources, omissions) are fixed.radek (talk) 19:52, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
- I've recreated the Peace of Bautzen article and made one for Treaty of Merseburg, and moved most of the content from the synth-ed article. These can be nominated individually, avoiding the SYNTH problem, though the one on Merseburg at least, still requires some work.radek (talk) 23:41, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
- ALT1 for the Peace of Bautzen article: "... that due to the Peace of Bautzen (1018) between Henry II and Boleslaw of Poland, Boleslaw retained control of Lusatia and Upper Lusatia and married Oda of Meissen, daughter of Margrave Eckard I?"radek (talk) 05:34, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
I have answered the synth allegation and provided additional sources on talk, I had undone the split and started an RfC, unfortunately Radeksz reverted. The RfC is here:
Skäpperöd (talk) 09:05, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
- The additional sources (on Polish Theater and Drama!?!??) hardly address the issue. I've restored the two separate articles which you are attempting to delete. There's nothing "unfortunate" about this.
- Again, where does a particular source say that these treaties all "concerned the same dispute", as you have it in the hook?radek (talk) 17:22, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
I provided more than ten additional sources here. The "separate articles" I am allegedly "trying to delete" are in fact the two halfs of my article which you decided to split, and which I have undone per BRD. You have moved the sections on Merseburg (1002), Merseburg (1013) and Bautzen (1018) to Peace of Bautzen, and the sections on Bautzen (1031) and Merseburg (1033) to Treaty of Merseburg, which I regard ill-advised and for which I had started the abovementioned RfC, which is open. I'd appreciate if you would self-revert. The sources referencing individual or a bunch of the treaties as well as additional sources provided on talk all confirm that all the treaties are about the investment with Lusatia and the legal status of the Piasts with respect to the emperor. Skäpperöd (talk) 18:22, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
Fort Belan
- ... that Princess Margaret stayed at Fort Belan for the investiture of Prince Charles in 1969?
5x expanded by Rosiestep (talk), Dr. Blofeld (talk). Nominated by Dr. Blofeld (talk) at 09:29, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
- Good length, date, and online ref. Nice expansion. -M.Nelson (talk) 17:05, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
Arthur Eaglefield Hull
- ... that Arthur Eaglefield Hull invented the term "mystic chord" to describe the music of Russian composer Scriabin?
Created by Shadygrove2007 (talk). Self nom at 09:24, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
- Good length and date; offline reference for hook accepted in good faith. Cheers, -M.Nelson (talk) 17:01, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
John Shelp Cobblestone House
- ... that the front porch on the John Shelp Cobblestone House (pictured) in West Shelby, New York, was built as a result of a heating stove fire in the dining room?
- Comment: Fivefold text expansion
5x expanded by Daniel Case (talk). Nominated by Daniel Case (talk) at 04:59, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
19 stingaree articles
- ... that there are 21 endemic Australian stingarees, including the brown, circular, common, Coral Sea, eastern shovelnose, greenback, Kapala (pictured), lobed, masked, mitotic, patchwork, sandyback, sparsely-spotted, spotted, striped, western shovelnose, wide, and yellow shovelnose?
5x expanded by Yzx (talk). Self nom at 03:37, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
- Starting work on this corker. Have shortened the hook a bit, since it was originally well over the 200 character guideline. Expansion and ref for hook fact confirmed for main article stingarees. Expansion tick for Brown stingaree, Circular stingaree, Common stingaree, Coral Sea stingaree, Eastern shovelnose stingaree, Greenback stingaree, Kapala stingaree. Rest probably OK, but could be checked individually. hamiltonstone (talk) 03:50, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
- While I don't mind the shortening, I should note that the character limit is relaxed for multi-article hooks. -- Yzx (talk) 04:04, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
Church of Saint Andrew, High Ham
- ... that High Ham's Church of Saint Andrew has a 12th century lead-lined tulip bowl font?
5x expanded by Rosiestep (talk). Self nom at 02:21, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
Tony Clunn
- ... that Tony Clunn, a British Army Major looking for Roman coins with a metal detector, discovered the site of the Battle of the Teutoburg Forest?
Created by Yngvadottir (talk). Self nom at 00:57, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
Rocky Gale
- ... that catcher Rocky Gale made his professional baseball debut with the Eugene Emeralds, a team which he watched while growing up in the area?
Created by Halvorsen brian (talk). Self nom at 00:07, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
Joseph Kerman
- ... that the American musicologist and critic Joseph Kerman described Puccini's opera Tosca as "a shabby little shocker"?
- Comment: The article uses a shortened footnote format for the inline citations. Consult the Sources section for full bibliographic information and links for the citations. The hook is based on the fourth sentence of the second paragraph in the Biography section.
5x expanded by Voceditenore (talk). Self nom at 23:39, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
- Alt 1... that musicologist Joseph Kerman famously described Giacomo Puccini's Tosca as "a shabby little shocker"?4meter4 (talk) 14:31, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
- Comment:The first version was better, in that it describes Kerman as also being a critic. Furthermore, his description is not "famous" and is known primarily to a small circle of dilettantes. Dr. Dan (talk) 20:16, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
- um... Just because you like to claim it isn't famous doesn't mean it isn't. All four of the sources cited describe the quote as being famous (and they all use the word famous). Stop trying to push your baseless POV which is contrary to pretty much every reputable source on this topic. Note to reviewers, see Talk:Tosca for an example of Dr. Dan's highly biased, uncivil, and odd behavior around this topic.4meter4 (talk) 20:37, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
- Leaving aside the ax being ground here (multiple reliable, scholarly, published sources – not "a small circle of dilettantes" – explicitly describe the quote as "famous"), I prefer the original hook. It is simple, unambiguous, congruent with the text of the article, which does not state that the quote is "famous" per , and fully supported by the sources cited. Voceditenore (talk) 20:58, 8 September 2010 (UTC) Updated by Voceditenore (talk) 11:47, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
- In so far as posterity will be interested in this DYK, if the "sources" say this debatable, and essentially unknown "opinion" is famous, then it must be famous, unambiguous, and congruent with the text of the article. Like this. If it doesn't accomplish anything else, perhaps Misplaced Pages will somehow make it famous. As I've said earlier it is indeed famous amongst a group of dilettantes, who described themselves as members of "Opera circles" . And 4meter, just because you like to claim that this critic's shabby, little, meanspirited, and largely unknown "shocker" is famous, doesn't mean that it is. I think including it in the DYK segment, is appropriate. Saying that Kerman is well known, or that his opinion is famous is misleading to say the least. That's all I'm trying to explain to you. Best. Dr. Dan (talk) 21:51, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
- To quote from above, "multiple reliable, scholarly, published sources – not "a small circle of dilettantes" – explicitly describe the quote as "famous"." If you choose to ignore the verifiable facts, don't expect anyone here to take you seriously.4meter4 (talk) 14:32, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
- whether it's famous or not is inmaterial-it doesn't need to be in the hook. Hook has a valid ref. Approved. refer main hook. — Rlevse • Talk • 16:38, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
- 4meter4 and Dr. Dan, that is enough. Please limit your comments to constructive ones; arguing about who is POV and terrible is not going to get anything done.
- Now, regardless of what the sources say: "famously" sounds WP:PEACOCK wording and puffery, even if it is supported by sources it doesn't make the hook sound better to my ears. I'm with Voceditenore, leave it out. rʨanaɢ (talk) 16:39, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
- I'm fine with voced's hook as well. However, I don't appriciate my contributions being described as unconstructive. I presented a valid verifiable hook (from four published academic sources no less) which is in my opinion more interesting than the original one. It's also not a "Peacock" word because it is famous and so many sources (I could probably find 30 or more published sources given time) say that it is. Since the hook I presented was challenged by DrDan, I needed to respond to those concerns. What concerns me more is that nobody is calling DrDan on his behavior which is clearly a violation of WP:Civil, and more disturbing, a persistant willfulness in pushing forward a viewpoint which is in direct opposition to the available verifiable evidence. I'm seriously considering bringing him before Misplaced Pages:Requests for comment/User conduct.4meter4 (talk) 17:11, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
- As you know, I was one of the two primary contributors to Tosca, a FA and TFA. Dr. Dan has been tendentious in the extreme on this issue, even trying a quiet change several days after discussion had ceased (he had no real supporters) in the apparent hope that the article was unwatched. That he would use DYK as a substitute battleground upsets me.--Wehwalt (talk) 17:17, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
Mary Ewing-Mulligan
- ... that author and wine educator Mary Ewing-Mulligan was the first female American Master of Wine?
Created by Murgh (talk). Self nom at 23:02, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
- length, date and references for the hook check out. Good to go. Voceditenore (talk) 12:57, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
Lycurgus Cup
- ... that the 4th century Roman glass Lycurgus Cup is dichroic; lit from in front it is green, but thanks to surface plasmon resonance it is red when lit from behind?
5x expanded by Johnbod (talk). Nominated by Johnbod (talk) at 22:50, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
- Expanded from 2 lines today. Current refs 1 & 7;
please note move requested to proper capitalization of title.(Move now done) Johnbod (talk) 22:57, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
- ( for the plasmon resonance). Wow, what an item. Images appear in order (ie. free, not fair use). hamiltonstone (talk) 04:17, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
- ALT1 (shorter:) "... that the 4th century Roman glass Lycurgus Cup is dichroic; lit from in front it is green, but lit from behind it changes to red?" Shadygrove2007 (talk) 09:31, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
Beit Hadfus Street
- ... that Jerusalem's Beit Hadfus Street was named "Street of the Printing Press" for the printing houses that established themselves here?
Created by Yoninah (talk). Self nom at 22:39, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
A Journey
- ... that within hours of its launch, A Journey, the memoir of Tony Blair, became the fastest-selling autobiography of all time?
5x expanded by TheRetroGuy (talk). Nominated by TheRetroGuy (talk) at 21:32, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
- Alternative suggestions very welcome. TheRetroGuy (talk) 21:35, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
- 5x expansion verified. Date, length OK. Tweaked hook and it's good to go. Yoninah (talk) 22:48, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
- Just wondering, is "launch" the typical word to be used for a book's release? Would "release" or "publishing" be more accurate? -M.Nelson (talk) 02:09, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
- Probably "publication" is more accurate thinking about it. TheRetroGuy (talk) 08:53, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
Parque México
- ... that Parque México park in Mexico City exists because environmental laws in the 1920s did not allow housing to be built on a former racetrack?
5x expanded by Thelmadatter (talk). Self nom at 20:46, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
- Date and 5x expansion check out. The hook is verified by an inline cite to a reliable source in Spanish (which I can read). I've tweaked the hook. It's good to go. Voceditenore (talk) 09:59, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
McBarge
- ... that the McBarge (pictured), a futuristic floating McDonald's built for Expo '86, has been anchored derelict next to an oil refinery since 1991?
- Comment: A bit of help on the alttext would be nice!
Created by M.nelson (talk). Nominated by M.nelson (talk) at 20:41, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
- Date checks out (the article was moved from user space on Sept. 7). Length OK (2000 characters). Hook verified by inline cite to a reliable source. I have made copyedits to the article to remove the maintenance tag. Voceditenore (talk) 10:35, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
James L. Swauger
- ... that James L. Swauger continued his archaeological work with petroglyphs for fifteen years after his nominal retirement?
Created by Nyttend (talk). Self nom at 19:58, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
- Length and date check out. Offline reference accepted in good faith. Good job. --Brian Halvorsen (talk) 00:24, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
Riad al-Saray
- ... that Iraqi television presenter Riad al-Saray was assassinated the same day that Reporters Without Borders announced the Iraq War had killed more journalists than any since the Second World War?
Created by Dumelow (talk). Self nom at 19:50, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
Sako Chivitchian
- ... that Sako Chivitchian, a competitor on the twelfth season of The Ultimate Fighter, made his mixed martial arts debut at the age of 15, winning via armbar?
Created by Paralympiakos (talk). Self nom at 19:36, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
Durrës–Tiranë railway
- ... that the Durrës–Tiranë railway is the first Albanian railway built in 1948?
Created by Vinie007 (talk). Nominated by Vinie007 (talk) at 19:25, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
- "first": one of the sources states "The first railways in Albania were mineral and military narrow gauge lines built between 1917 and in the 1930’s, some of these systems were extensive, but none remain intact today.".--Wetman (talk) 04:22, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
- That was no railway, it was just a militairy prove of Zogu. --Vinie007 05:17, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
Fomes fomentarius
- ... that the 5,000 year-old Ötzi the Iceman was carrying four pieces of Hoof Fungus (modern specimen pictured) when he was found?
5x expanded by J Milburn (talk). Nominated by J Milburn (talk) at 18:34, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
1520 Sedgwick Avenue
- ... that 1520 Sedgwick Avenue in The Bronx is considered the "birthplace of hip hop"?
Created by Freechild (talk). Nominated by Freechild (talk) at 18:49, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
David J. Weber
- ... that historian David J. Weber of Southern Methodist University was called "at least a generation ahead of his time in recognizing how entwined Mexico and the United States were and are"?
Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 17:49, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
Cody McKenzie
- ... that Cody McKenzie, who appeared on The Ultimate Fighter: Team GSP vs. Team Koscheck, has the second-most guillotine choke victories in the world according to Sherdog.com?
Created by Paralympiakos (talk). Self nom at 15:51, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
Frank Perls
- ... that Frank Perls, who as a U.S. Army interpreter in 1945 found a copy of the Nuremberg Laws signed by Hitler, was an art dealer who uncovered a series of forged works attributed to Degas and Picasso?
Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 14:52, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
Citypark Albania
- ... that Citypark Albania with its 170 shops is the biggest shopping mall of Albania?
Created by Vinie007 (talk). Nominated by Vinie007 (talk) at 14:47, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
- Way too short at 686 characters of prose. Do let me know if you expand beyond 1,500 characters so I can re-evaluate :) Todor→Bozhinov 08:25, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
- Fixed it, now it has 2335 characters!--Vinie007 08:49, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
- Length is good now, but there are quality and referencing issues. I've elaborated at User talk:Vinie007#DYK nomination of Citypark Albania. Todor→Bozhinov 13:20, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
Krohn Air
- ... that Krohn Air was started by a local businessman to continue the service after Scandinavian Airlines terminated their route from Molde to Trondheim in Norway?
5x expanded by Arsenikk (talk). Self nom at 13:38, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
Scotty Moylan
- ... that Chicago native Scotty Moylan, who became one of Guam's most prominent businessmen, introduced the first Volkswagen automobiles to the island in the 1960s?
Created by Scanlan (talk). Nominated by Scanlan (talk) at 12:16, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
Don Graham (developer)
- ... that Don Graham developed the Ala Moana Center in Honolulu, the largest outdoor shopping mall in the United States?
Created by Scanlan (talk). Nominated by Scanlan (talk) at 12:11, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
Route Trident
- ... that Route Trident is the first road to be built by the Royal Engineers under fire since the Dhofar Rebellion in the early 1970s?
Created by Dumelow (talk). Self nom at 12:07, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
Mike Stepovich
- ... that while still the sitting Governor of Alaska Territory, Mike Stepovich appeared on the game show What's My Line?
5x expanded by Allen3 (talk). Self nom at 11:29, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
Ust-Ilimsk Hydroelectric Power Station
- ... that from 1980 to 2005, the Ust-Ilimsk Hydroelectric Power Station (pictured) in Russia generated over 600 billion kWh of electricity?
- ALT1 ... that from 1980 to 2005, the Ust-Ilimsk Hydroelectric Power Station (pictured) in Russia generated more than enough power to light commercial and residential buildings in the United States during 2008?
Created/self-nom by --NortyNort (Holla) 08:52, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
- Main hook, date, length verified. ALT1 does not specify the year for comparison (e.g. 1776). KimChee (talk) 00:59, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
- ALT1 - the claim made is WP:SYNTHESIS, by comparing the dam's generation (from one source) to the USA consumption (from another source). -M.Nelson (talk) 01:57, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
- I understand the sourcing part but it is a cut and dry comparison of just numbers, not ideology or actions. I didn't think it was a bad representation. --NortyNort (Holla) 08:46, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
- That's true, but I just have an extremely strict view of synthesis. Maybe I'm a bit off from the overall community's interpretation; I let it go if a third party gives it the OK. FYI alt1 still needs to mention the US year (2008 I believe). Cheers, -M.Nelson (talk) 17:25, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
- Changed to 2008. --NortyNort (Holla) 22:27, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
Irkutsk Hydroelectric Power Station
- ... that upon completion, the Irkutsk Hydroelectric Power Station was called a "pearl of Soviet water-power engineering" and 349 of its workers were awarded the Hero of Socialist Labour medal?
Created/self-nom by --NortyNort (Holla) 08:52, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
Chester A. Arnold, David P. Penhallow, & Azolla primaeva
- ... that the paleobotanists David P. Penhallow and Chester A. Arnold both published studies on the extinct water-fern Azolla primaeva?
Created by Kevmin (talk). Self nom at 08:45, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
- Could you add more inline citations to Chester A. Arnold to make it clear where the info regarding his wife + kids came from as well as the second halfs of the first + second paragraphs? Also, whilst the Azolla article says Penhallow wrote the description, I can only see that Arnold actually published a study on it. To me the hook implies that they both published separate studies, rather than them collaborating on one. Smartse (talk) 16:15, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
- They did publish separate studies. As noted in the first sentence of the second paragraph Penhallow wrote the description for Azollophyllum primaevum that was published in the 1890 Dawson volume on BC fossils. Arnold redescribed the species as Azolla primaeva in 1955, 65 years later.--Kevmin § 19:30, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
- I have added citations for the paragraphs needed. However I removed the reference to wife and children, it was from the Fr.wiki stub article and not unfortunately referenced there. I have not been able to find any information on family other then parents. --Kevmin § 19:30, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks, sorry for not spotting the separate studies before. Smartse (talk) 19:49, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
Tanymastix stagnalis
- ... that Tanymastix stagnalis is the only species of fairy shrimp to occur in Ireland?
Created by Stemonitis (talk). Self nom at 06:04, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
- Verified. Smartse (talk) 15:55, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
Wetumpka State Penitentiary
- ... that the Wetumpka State Penitentiary was the first state prison established in Alabama?
Created by WhisperToMe (talk). Nominated by Wilhelmina Will (talk) at 04:00, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
Society for Anglo-Chinese Understanding
- ... that in the 1970s the Society for Anglo-Chinese Understanding was one of the few organisations who could arrange visits from the United Kingdom to China?
Created by Christopher Connor (talk). Self nom at 03:37, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
HMS Thordön
- ... that after the Swedish monitor HMS Thordön ran aground and sank in 1883, the subsequent court-martial ordered the ship's captain to pay for the costs of the salvage and repairs, despite a misplaced buoy that caused the grounding?
5x expanded by Sturmvogel 66 (talk). Nominated by Sturmvogel 66 (talk) at 03:32, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
Theban Desert Road Survey
- ... that John and Deborah Coleman of the Theban Desert Road Survey have followed ancient caravan trails to discover a 3,500-year-old site at the Kharga Oasis in the middle of Egypt's Western Desert?
Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 02:21, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
- Looks good. ℳono 02:35, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
- Need to reference the first paragraph first. Shadygrove2007 (talk) 09:40, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
Electricity sector in Canada
- ... that the electricity sector in Canada is the world's second-largest producer of hydroelectricity, which accounted for 58% of all electric generation in 2007?
5x expanded by Bouchecl (talk). Self nom at 02:04, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
- Offline ref accepted in good faith. ℳono 02:36, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
- Added 2 online sources to back-up the original paywall-hidden source. Bouchecl (talk) 16:55, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
- Comment: Could "all its electric generation" be clarified? I'm pretty sure it means to say " accounted for 58% of Canada's electric generation in 2007", but not exactly sure ("it" could be taken to refer to the world's electric generation). Cheers, -M.Nelson (talk) 20:08, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
- I've removed the its from the hook. I also fixed the article. The line now says: "Canada is the world's second-largest producer of hydroelectricity,which accounted for 58% of all electric generation in 2007". Thanks for your comment. Bouchecl (talk) 03:27, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
George Catleugh
- ... that professional footballer George Catleugh suffered a broken leg on two different occasions?
Created by WFCforLife (talk). Self nom at 01:31, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
- Checked. ℳono 02:38, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
Alex Caceres
- ... that Alex Caceres' nickname "Bruce Leeroy" is inspired by the character of the same nickname in The Last Dragon?
Created by Paralympiakos (talk). Self nom at 00:32, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
- Does not meet size requirement. ℳono 02:40, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on September 6
Sespe Formation
- ... that the Sespe Formation consists predominantly of sandstones and conglomerates between the upper Eocene epoch to the end of the Oligocene? Created by Antandrus (talk) Nominated by moreno oso (talk) 07:57, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
- ALT1 ...that the Sespe Formation has produced 400 million barrels of oil in Ventura County, California?
- ALT2 ...that the Sespe Formation's sedimentary rocks, which resulted from the millions of years of deposition, included mudstones and siltstones due to erosion of mountains and floodplain alluvium?
Palm Islands Nature Reserve
- ... that Alice of Champagne the widowed Queen Consort of Cyprus married Bohemond V of Antioch on the Palm Island offshore of Tripoli in 1224?
Eli+. Self nom at 17:32, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
- ALT 1 ... that the Palm Island was the scene of a massacre perpetrated by the Mamelukes against the Tripolitans in 1289?
Created by Eli+. Self nom at 17:32, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
Life at the Bottom: The Worldview That Makes the Underclass
- ... that in Life at the Bottom: The Worldview That Makes the Underclass, Theodore Dalrymple interviewed over ten thousand people who had attempted suicide?
Created by Silver seren (talk). Self nom at 02:11, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
- ALT 1 ... that for his book, Life at the Bottom: The Worldview That Makes the Underclass, Theodore Dalrymple interviewed over ten thousand people who had attempted suicide?
- Length and date check out. Suggest ALT 1 as a clearer hook.
Two issues though, the hook reference needs a page number, suggest using this link to page vii. Also, the book does not appear to be a novel, yet states: "The novel is separated into two main sections..."Voceditenore (talk) 14:07, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
- Alt 1 is perfectly fine. I have updated the hook ref, among the others directly related to the book, and I have changed the word "novel" to "collection". Silverseren 14:29, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
- All issues addressed now and good to go. Voceditenore (talk) 17:46, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
- Length and date check out. Suggest ALT 1 as a clearer hook.
Darling It Hurts
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- ... that the title of "Darling It Hurts", a top 20 Billboard Mainstream Rock Chart single by Australian rock group Paul Kelly and the Coloured Girls, was based on a piece of infamous Sydney graffiti?
Created by Dan_arndt (Dan_arndt). Nominated by Dan_arndt (Dan_arndt) at 01:36, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
Arbeiderklassens Samlingsparti
- ... that at the same time as the Norwegian Labour and the Social Democratic Labour parties reunited, a competing "Unified Party of the Working Class" was founded?
Created by Geschichte (talk). Self nom at 22:09, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
Leo Trepp
- ... that interned in the Sachsenhausen concentration camp, Rabbi Leo Trepp said "I know God was there. In the concentration camp with me. And it was the worst place for it. That's why it was the best"?
Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 14:20, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
Vnukovo Airlines Flight 2801
- ... that Vnukovo Airlines Flight 2801 killed 141 people when it crashed into a mountain in the Arctic archipelago of Svalbard, making it the deadliest aviation accident ever in Norway?
5x expanded by Arsenikk (talk). Self nom at 13:49, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
- I dont quite get 5x expansion.Thelmadatter (talk) 20:59, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
- The way the script I use counts it, if the references are removed, there are 3476 characters. Then the threshold for a 5x is 17380, which is lower than the now 17636. If you're using the script I use, it will come with the wrong result, because it counts some of the references as prose. Arsenikk 22:11, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
London mayoral election, 2012
- ... that Ken Livingstone, the Mayor of London from 2000 to 2008, is running to regain the office at the 2012 London mayoral election?
5x expanded by Franklinville (talk). Nominated by Franklinville (talk) at 11:49, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
Madonna of humility
- ... Art historian, Andrew Ladis, described the Madonna of humility, painted by Domenico di Bartolo in 1433 (pictured), as one of the most innovative devotional images from the early Renaissance?
--> Created by History2007 (talk). Nominated by History2007 (talk) at 06:11, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
- Comment: Here is the link to verify the hook claim: . History2007 (talk) 10:22, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
- The date and length are fine.
My only concern is the weasel phrasing both in the hook and in the article itself, i.e. "is considered" by whom?.Suggest changing the first sentence in the Examples section of the article (and in the hook) to something like:"Art historian, Andrew Ladis, has described Domenico di Bartolo's Madonna of humility, painted in 1433, as one of the most innovative devotional images from the early Renaissance."
This would be fully supported by the inline citation used for the for current sentence. Voceditenore (talk) 13:54, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
- Fine, no problem. I changed it as such. Thanks. History2007 (talk) 14:13, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
- Good to go now. Voceditenore (talk) 14:24, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
- Fine, no problem. I changed it as such. Thanks. History2007 (talk) 14:13, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
Oskar Höcker, Gustav Höcker, Paul Oskar Höcker, Karla Höcker
- ... that the family of Oskar Höcker, a German writer, included three more writers--his brother Gustav Höcker, his son Paul Oskar Höcker, and his granddaughter Karla Höcker?
Created by Drmies (talk). Nominated by Drmies (talk) at 05:11, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
- I suggest piping the names, like this: ALT: ... that the family of Oskar Höcker, a German writer, included three more writers--his brother Gustav, his son Paul Oskar, and his granddaughter Karla?
- Looks good to me. Now, if you can get Karla pregnant and have her raise a writer within the next few days, I can make this a quintuple. Unfortunately her great-grandfather had a menial job, and she didn't have kids. Drmies (talk) 17:01, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
Frank Burton Ellis
- ... that as civil defense director at the height of the Cold War in 1961, Frank B. Ellis pushed for the adoption of fallout shelters to protect civilians from long-term hazards of nuclear attack?
5x expanded by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 02:35, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
- Hook ref does not appear to be reliable. Please find a reliable source. ℳono 02:44, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
- Two other sources added. Billy Hathorn (talk) 22:22, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
Shigeki Osawa
- ... that there is debate in the media about whether Shigeki Osawa's fight against Katsuya Toida was a no contest or a disqualification win for Osawa due to accidental kicks to the groin?
Created by Paralympiakos (talk). Self nom at 23:36, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
Michael Johnson (fighter)
- ... that Michael Johnson signed with the Ultimate Fighting Championship promotion to appear on The Ultimate Fighter: Team GSP vs. Team Koscheck?
Created by Paralympiakos (talk). Self nom at 23:30, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
Aaron Wilkinson
- ... that due to his pale complexion and resemblance to a character from the Blade films, Aaron Wilkinson's coaches nicknamed him The Daywalker?
Created by Paralympiakos (talk). Self nom at 23:27, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
Banglabandha
- ... that the Banglabandha inland port is aimed at increasing trade between Bangladesh, Nepal, India and Bhutan?
Created by S h i v a (Visnu) (talk). Nominated by S h i v a (Visnu) (talk) at 23:13, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
Château Raymond-Lafon
- ... that Sauternes wine producer Château Raymond-Lafon's vines were just 5 years old during the Bordeaux Wine Official Classification of 1855 and too young for classification?
Created by Murgh (talk). Self nom at 23:02, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
Douglas of Mains
- ... that Malcolm Douglas of Mains and his father-in-law were both found guilty of conspiring to kidnap King James VI of Scotland in the Raid of Ruthven and were publicly executed after their trial in 1584?
Created by Wikiwayman (talk). Self nom at 20:23, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
- ALT 1 ... that Malcolm Douglas of Mains was found guilty of conspiring to kidnap King James VI of Scotland in the Raid of Ruthven and was publicly executed after his trial in 1584? Wikiwayman (talk • contribs) 20:23, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
The World of Strawberry Shortcake
- ... that The World of Strawberry Shortcake, the first television special to feature American Greetings' Strawberry Shortcake character, was rejected by the major U.S. networks and premiered in syndication instead?
5x expanded by Slgrandson (talk). Nominated by Slgrandson (talk) at 20:15, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
Mitford Castle
- ... that each of the five sides of Mitford Castle's keep have a different dimension?
5x expanded by Rosiestep (talk). Self nom at 19:41, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
The Cocktail Hour
- ... that playwright A.R. Gurney promised his parents that his play The Cocktail Hour would not be produced in their hometown of Buffalo, New York, during their lifetimes?
Created by MelanieN (talk). Self nom at 19:38, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
Leon Belasco
- ... that in a sixty year career Leon Belasco appeared in films with the Marx Brothers, Bob Hope, James Cagney, Humphrey Bogart and Fred Astaire?
Created by Jack1956 (talk). Nominated by Jack1956 (talk) at 19:21, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
Ibacus peronii
- ... that the meat of the slipper lobster Ibacus peronii (pictured) is considered inferior to that of the Moreton Bay bug because it sometimes tastes of garlic?
5x expanded by Stemonitis (talk). Nominated by Stemonitis (talk) at 18:52, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
- I'd consider ready-seasoned lobster to be a good thing! Smartse (talk) 21:56, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
Bangladesh-Nepal relations
- ... that in retaliation to Nepal recognising Bangladesh in 1971, Pakistan broke-off its ties with Nepal?
Created by S h i v a (Visnu) (talk). Nominated by S h i v a (Visnu) (talk) at 18:51, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
- The "Map indicating location of Bangladesh and Nepal" is broken, also is it necessary to say that the relations were "cordial and progressive"? Geschichte (talk) 22:12, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
- I've proceeded to remove "cordial" in favor of just "progressive." The map has to be drawn by somebody who has that software, which I don't. We can remove the box itself if you like, but I don't think its a problem. Shiva (Visnu) 00:20, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
Henri Gascar
- ... that Henri Gascar painted portraits of many leading ladies at the court of King Charles II of England including several of the king's mistresses?
5x expanded by Shadygrove2007 (talk). Self nom at 17:25, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
HMS Tirfing (1866)
- ... that the Swedish monitor HMS Tirfing only made a single overseas voyage, when she visited the ports of Helsingfors, later known as Helsinki, and Kronstadt in August 1867, during her career?
5x expanded by Sturmvogel 66 (talk). Nominated by Sturmvogel 66 (talk) at 17:24, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
- ALT: ... that the Swedish monitor HMS Tirfing only made a single overseas voyage during her career, when she visited the ports of Helsingfors and Kronstadt in 1867?
Colonia Guerrero, Mexico City
- ... that Colonia Guerrero in Mexico City was part of an old colonial-era indigenous neighborhood?
Created by Thelmadatter (talk). Self nom at 17:22, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
The Bravo
- ... that The Bravo is James Fenimore Cooper's first novel set in Europe and was largely disliked by contemporary American critics?
Created by Sadads (talk). Self nom at 16:57, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
- . Length, hook, novelty status verified. No issues, good to go! --Sulmues 03:33, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
Christine Berrie
- ... that Scottish illustrator Christine Berrie is known for her industrial-themed illustrations, including gas meters, dials, buttons and switches, machinery, and appliances?
Created by Kindzmarauli (talk). Self-nom at 16:45, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
- Need to make up to 1,500 characters to be elegible for DYK. Check here. Shadygrove2007 (talk) 10:01, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
- I have expanded it above 1500. Kindzmarauli (talk) 21:35, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
- ALT1 (shorter) "... that Scottish artist Christine Berrie is known for her industrial-themed illustrations, including gas meters, dials, buttons, switches, machinery, and appliances?
- OK for length, style and internet references, other refs accepted in good faith. ALT1 might be the better hook - shorter and no repetition. Shadygrove2007 (talk) 09:18, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
Inland Customs Line
- ... that the Inland Customs Line stretched across more than 2,500 miles (4,000 km) of British India and was compared to the Great Wall of China?
- ALT1:... that the Inland Customs Line stretched across more than 2,500 miles (4,000 km) of British India and in parts was made from an Indian Plum hedge (pictured) 12 feet (3.7 m) high and 14 feet (4.3 m) thick?
- Comment: Quite complicated this one. The original article was at Great Hedge of India, I rewrote it in userspace and moved it to Inland Customs Line and made the Great Hedge page a redirect. You should be able to find the previous article in the history of that page. Please feel free to run this without the picture if you want, to use a different picture or to suggest more alternative hooks (there's plenty of interesting things about this barrier!).
5x expanded by Dumelow (talk). Self nom at 16:29, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
Nannygate
- ... that during the Nannygate political controversy of 1993, Americans asked each other if they too had a certain kind of problem?
Created by Wasted Time R (talk). Self nom at 16:25, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
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- This hook is a little misleading. "Once the Nannygate matter broke into the news, the question "Do you have a Zoë Baird problem?" became frequently asked by Americans of each other in casual conversation, with many answers being in the affirmative." is the best quote from the article supporting the hook. Its not really "each other" and the problem is explictly stated as a "Zoë Baird problem." I would recommend:
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ALT 1 ... that during the Nannygate political controversy of 1993, Americans were asked if they had a "Zoë Baird problem."? Thelmadatter (talk) 17:31, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
- I thought about that originally, but I was trying to tease the reader a bit more with the hook! I also wanted to avoid a Zoë Baird link inside a quotation, which is generally bad form per WP:LINK. And I am not sure why you think "each other" is not appropriate, since that is what was happening. Your phrasing of "Americans were asked ..." makes it sound like the government or a polling firm or some other institution like that was doing the asking, which is not the case. Wasted Time R (talk) 00:35, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
2010 Lamar Hunt U.S. Open Cup Final
- ... that the Columbus Crew and Seattle Sounders FC qualified for the 2010 Lamar Hunt U.S. Open Cup Final?
5x expanded by Skotywa (talk). Self nom at 15:42, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
Colony (restaurant)
- ... that the executive chef of the Colony in Central London is Michelin-starred chef Atul Kochhar?
Created by Dr. Blofeld (talk). Nominated by Dr. Blofeld (talk) at 15:00, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
Duerosuchus
- ... that unlike other Eocene crocodilians found from Zamora, Spain, the extinct genus Duerosuchus was primarily a fish eater?
Created by Smokeybjb (talk). Nominated by Smokeybjb (talk) at 13:19, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
Operation Musketoon
- ... that in 1942, seven commandos captured during Operation Musketoon were briefly held at Colditz Castle before being executed at Sachsenhausen concentration camp?
5 times expansion and Self nom by --Jim Sweeney (talk) 10:15, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
Scoresby Sund
- ... that the Scoresby Sund (pictured) is the world's largest fjord system?
5x expanded by Materialscientist (talk). Nominated by Materialscientist (talk) at 08:19, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
- Date, length, hook and pic. verified. Bejinhan talks 06:58, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
Aboyne Castle
- ... that the location of Aboyne Castle was selected for its strategic position near the Dee and controlling the northern end of one of the Mounth crossings?
5x expanded by Rosiestep (talk). Self nom at 05:18, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
2004 British Open (snooker)
- ... that former world snooker champion Shaun Murphy reached the semi-finals of a ranking event for the first time at the 2004 British Open?
Created by Christopher Connor (talk). Self nom at 04:24, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
Tamora, Nebraska
- ... that Tamora, Nebraska was named for the day after today?
Created by Ammodramus (talk). Nominated by Nyttend (talk) at 03:37, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
- Good to go.Thelmadatter (talk) 14:19, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
Satch Davidson
- ... that Satch Davidson was plate umpire when Hank Aaron hit his record 715th home run and in Game 6 of the 1975 World Series when Carlton Fisk's 12th inning home run won the game for the Boston Red Sox?
Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 03:21, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
Govindadasa
- ... that a song by the 16th c. Bengali Vaishnava padavali poet Govindadasa was included in an opera written under a disguised name by Rabindranath Tagore?
Created by Mukerjee (talk). Self nom at 01:09, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
- note: the article "Vaishnava padavali" is also new and meets DYK criteria. should we have both in bold? however, the hook is referenced only in Govindadasa. --mukerjee (talk) 01:09, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on September 5
Vaqueros Formation
- ... that the Vaqueros Formation and its fossils in the Simi Valley date from the Upper Oligocene epoch? 5x expanded by Antandrus (talk) Nominated by moreno oso (talk) 06:50, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
- ALT1 ...that the Vaqueros Formation has weathered to a clay soil which supports chaparral on the southern slopes of the Santa Ynez Mountains?
- ALT2 ...that the Vaqueros Formation along with the underlying Sespe Formation is the second-most important producing petroleum horizon in Southern California?
Mark Burgess (illustrator)
- ... that illustrator of children's literature Mark Burgess has been noted for his ability to reproduce the style of dead artists such as Allan Curless and E. H. Shepard?
- Comment: Article was nominated for deletion on September 4. Article expansion began on September 5, when it was tagged for rescue. Though deletion discussion is still open, it's almost certain to result in keep.
5x expanded by Codehydro (talk) and Colonel Warden (talk). Self nom at 18:17, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
Crown of Augustus II the Strong
- ... that the Crown of Augustus II, a replacement for the Polish Crown Jewels, was never used becouse of two monks, who broke into the State Treasury the Wawel Castle and stole the original regalia?
5x expanded by BurgererSF (talk) 09:44, 8 September 2010 (UTC). Nominated by BurgererSF (talk) 09:44, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
Berat County
- ... according to legend, Tomorr Mountain in Berat County was personified by a giant who fought his brother for the love of a young woman, who weeped over their deaths to create the Osum River?
5x expanded by Dr. Blofeld (talk), Nvvchar (talk). Nominated by Dr. Blofeld (talk) at 18:38, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
- Added an img of Tomorr mountain and Osum River.-- N.V.V. Char . 03:09, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
Kakiemon elephants
- ... that the porcelain Kakiemon elephant (pictured) was made when elephants would not have been seen in Japan?
Created by Victuallers (talk). Self nom at 09:05, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
- . Hook, length, and novelty status verified. Good to go! --Sulmues 11:52, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
Tanners' Bridge
- ... that the Tanners' Bridge on the Lanë brook served from the 18th century to the 1930s when Lanë's course was changed?
Created by Vinie007 (talk). Nominated by Sulmues (talk) at 23:50, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
1971–72 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team
- ... that although the 1971–72 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team only finished third in the Big Ten Conference, they led the conference in scoring, field goal percentage, and rebounding?
Created by TonyTheTiger (talk). Nominated by TonyTheTiger (talk) at 23:01, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
1970–71 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team
- ... that the 1970–71 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team had one player lead the Big Ten Conference in field goal percentage for the season and another set the school career record?
Created by TonyTheTiger (talk). Nominated by TonyTheTiger (talk) at 22:57, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
1968–69 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team
- ... that Rudy Tomjanovich set the current Michigan Wolverines men's basketball single-game rebounding and scoring records while playing for the 1968–69 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team?
Created by TonyTheTiger (talk). Nominated by TonyTheTiger (talk) at 22:51, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
- Comment. The hooks for the 68-69 and 69-70 teams are quite similar. They could be readily combined into a multi as follows:
- alt 1 that Rudy Tomjanovich set the current Michigan Wolverines men's basketball single-game and career rebounding records while playing for the 1968-69 and 1969-70 teams? Cbl62 (talk) 20:35, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
- alt 2 that Rudy Tomjanovich set the current Michigan Wolverines men's basketball single-game and career rebounding records while playing for the 1968-69 and 1969-70 teams? Cbl62 (talk) 20:35, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
- Double and triple noms look much better Victuallers (talk) 16:57, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
1969–70 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team
- ... that Rudy Tomjanovich set the current Michigan Wolverines men's basketball career rebounding record while playing for the 1969–70 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team?
Created by TonyTheTiger (talk). Nominated by TonyTheTiger (talk) at 22:52, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
- Comment. See proposed multi hook alt above. Cbl62 (talk) 20:37, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
Södermanland Runic Inscription Fv1948;295
- ... that on Swedish runestone Sö Fv1948;295 the R rune is represented by the shape of the tongue of a serpent
Created by Deanlaw (talk). Self nom at 22:03, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
Fred Preaus
- ... that Earl K. Long in 1956 used humor to defuse a gubernatorial opponent, Fred Preaus, a particularly scrupulous small-town automobile dealer from Farmerville, Louisiana?
Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 13:11, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
Eureka Masonic College
- ... that for many decades, the schoolhouse in Mississippi known as the birthplace of the Order of the Eastern Star housed a segregated school for African Americans?
5x expanded by Orlady (talk). Nominated by Orlady (talk) at 03:59, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
Greenland Sea, West Ice
- ... that in April 1952, five Norwegian seal hunting ships disappeared in the West Ice of the Greenland Sea (pictured)?
- Comment: See the end of West Ice article. Materialscientist (talk) 23:56, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
5x expanded by Materialscientist (talk). Nominated by Materialscientist (talk) at 23:56, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
Wow I'm impressed at your work on CORE articles on here. If anybody has an idea of what articles should be expanded asap it is you. Dr. Blofeld 17:04, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
Kitwana Jones
- ... that Saskatchewan Roughriders defensive lineman Kitwana Jones (pictured) was nicknamed "Batman" after chasing down and apprehending a purse snatcher?
- Comment: I did 5X expansion using prose size (125 words --> 628)
5x expanded by Canada Hky (talk). Self nom at 23:44, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
- Expansion, date, hook, length all check out. KimChee (talk) 00:59, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
HMS John Ericsson
- ... that the Swedish monitor HMS John Ericsson was sold in 1919 to the Gotland Cement Company who converted her to a barge?
5x expanded by Sturmvogel 66 (talk). Nominated by Sturmvogel 66 (talk) at 23:13, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
King of the Ring (1996)
- ... that Jerry Lawler and Ultimate Warrior's match at the World Wrestling Federation's King of the Ring (1996) resulted from an argument over artistic abilities?
5x expanded by Richard "Wrestler" Lopez (talk). Nominated by GaryColemanFan (talk) at 21:44, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
The Vinyl Conflict
- ... that The Vinyl Conflict is an upcoming box set by the thrash metal band Slayer that will include ten of their albums?
Created by CrowzRSA (talk). Nominated by CrowzRSA (talk) at 19:54, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
Economy of England in the Middle Ages
- ... that the Economy of England in the Middle Ages benefited from the discovery of huge silver deposits near Carlisle in 1133?
Created by Hchc2009 (talk). Nominated by Hchc2009 (talk) at 19:54, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
- Style, length and references (hook checks out at Google books) look good, but footnotes needed for the introduction as well. Nominate for feautured article? How about rephrasing the hook to:
- ALT1 "... that in 1133, the English economy received a major boost when huge silver deposits were discovered near Carlisle?" Shadygrove2007 (talk) 09:51, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
- Will add footnotes for the intro tomorrow. Like the ALT1. Hchc2009 (talk) 19:54, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
- Footnotes have been added for the intro as requested! Hchc2009 (talk) 19:56, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
- This is ready to go. Sorry, my mistake about the footnotes - they aren't needed for the intro if it summarises text cited in the main body. See Did you know, D2. Shadygrove2007 (talk) 09:39, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
- I hate to be a bit of a spoil sport here, particularly since I think that overall this is quite an excellent article, but I do have to quibble with the hook. What the source actually says is that the discovery produced a "local boom" - this is quite different than having a "major boost" to the entire medieval English economy (issues about monetary expansion leading to inflation rather than increases in standards of living aside). I'd prefer a hook on something like the Black Death which had a far greater and wider impact on the medieval English economy than any silver discovery (and raised wages much higher and for much longer).radek (talk) 09:58, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
Longitudinal Video Recording
- ... that Bing Crosby was a key backer in the development of Longitudinal Video Recording in the 1950s?
Created by Yorkshiresky (talk). Nominated by Yorkshiresky (talk). at 19:26, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
Amankila
- ... that the design of Amankila, a coastal Balinese hotel, was inspired by the palaces of Ujung and Tirtagangga?
Created by Rosiestep (talk), Dr. Blofeld (talk). Nominated by Rosiestep (talk) at 17:40, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
Clyde Refinery
- ... that the Clyde Refinery located in Clyde, New South Wales is Australia's oldest oil refinery?
Created by Bine Mai (talk). Self nom at 17:35, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
- The article says it is the "longest operating oil refinery in Australia" but doesn't mention that it is the oldest refinery. I've added oil to the hook to make it clear that this is an oil refinery. Smartse (talk) 16:25, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
- The Reuters ref states ... at the 82-year-old refinery -- Australia's oldest-- in the past 12 months doesn't it? BineMai 16:46, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
- Well yes, but it doesn't say anything about it in the article! Smartse (talk) 18:00, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
- ALT1 ... that the Clyde Refinery located in Clyde, New South Wales is Australia's longest operating oil refinery?
1983–84 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team
- ... that 1983–84 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team won the 1984 National Invitation Tournament?
5x expanded by TonyTheTiger (talk). Nominated by TonyTheTiger (talk) at 17:23, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
Paper clothing
- ... that paper clothing was briefly very popular in the 1960s?
Created by Sandstein (talk). Nominated by Sandstein (talk) at 17:16, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
- New article, sufficient length and all referenced. I'll AGF for the hook, since the Time article covers it as well. I've added a link to 1960s in fashion to the hook. Smartse (talk) 16:32, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
- Seconded. Hook checks out with external links as well and other material on "Google books". Shadygrove2007 (talk) 09:56, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
William Piers (constable)
- ... that in 1574, Walter Devereux, 1st Earl of Essex arrested William Piers and attempted to have him detained in Carrickfergus Castle?
Created by Dr. Blofeld (talk), Rosiestep (talk). Nominated by Dr. Blofeld (talk) at 17:12, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
1980–81 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team
- ... that Mike McGee set numerous Big Ten Conference records for the 1980–81 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team who hold the current Big Ten record for most overtime games in a season?
Created by TonyTheTiger (talk). Nominated by TonyTheTiger (talk) at 15:16, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
1979–80 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team
- ... that the 1979–80 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team qualified for the 1980 National Invitation Tournament even though they were unranked in the AP Poll all season?
Created by TonyTheTiger (talk). Nominated by TonyTheTiger (talk) at 15:16, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
- Comment. This is not an unusual fact. The NCAA tournament attracted the top teams, and it was therefore typical that teams invited to the NIT were unranked. Isn't there a better hook than this? Cbl62 (talk) 02:36, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
- (alt)... that the 1979–80 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team included Mike McGee who was the first Michigan Wolverines men's basketball player to play over 50 minutes in a game?--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 06:47, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
SMS Braunschweig
- ... that the German battleship SMS Braunschweig (pictured) engaged the Russian battleship Slava during the Battle of the Gulf of Riga during World War I?
5x expanded by Parsecboy (talk). Self nom at 15:05, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
- Expansion and hook is verified. Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 19:52, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
Amanjiwo
- ... that the Amanjiwo hotel in Central Java, Indonesia is built from local limestone?
Created by Dr. Blofeld (talk). Nominated by Dr. Blofeld (talk) at 13:48, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
List of music concerts at the Millennium Stadium
- ... that for music concerts held at the Millennium Stadium, 12 drapes can reduce the maximum size of an audience down to between 12,000 and 46,000?
Created by Seth Whales (talk). Self nom at 11:26, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
Adolf Heyrowsky
- ... that flying ace Hauptmann Adolf Heyrowsky (pictured) died in 1945, on the brink of promotion to Generalmajor?
5x expanded by Fridae'sDoom (talk). Self nom at 10:42, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
- x5 expension? It looks very similar to the version of it in May this year? Can you explain? It must be x5 expension in pure text (ie pics, titles, quotes, refs etc don't count) Victuallers (talk) 16:36, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
- It's actually smaller in size than in April, plus it says he was an Oberst in WWII, not a Hauptmann. — Rlevse • Talk • 21:08, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
- The refs were listed multiple times without ref names so I merged the refs. Ah rank anomalies noted and fixed. Internal links that were dead were removed, I just cleaned it up.
Alt 1:
- ... that flying ace Oberst Adolf Heyrowsky (pictured) died in 1945, on the brink of promotion to Generalmajor?
Ғяіᴆaз'§Đøøм | Champagne? 02:48, 6 September 2010 (UTC) - it is not new .... it isnt eligable for DYK. Articles have to substantially less than 5 days old Victuallers (talk) 15:48, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
- Sorry, but even using DYKcheck tool, the readable prose only went up 30k or so, a fraction of 1X, far from 5x. Rank anomaly still exists in hook too. — Rlevse • Talk • 20:56, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
Dabar Bridge
- ... that 354 metres (1,161 feet) long and 60 metres (200 feet) tall Dabar Bridge carries the Croatian A1 motorway across a flash flood gully rather than a permanent watercourse?
Created by Tomobe03 (talk). Self nom at 10:32, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
Hungarian Crown
- ... that the so-called Hungarian Crown (pictured), part of the Polish Crown Jewels, was modelled after the Holy Crown of Hungary?
Created by BurgererSF (talk) 10:19, 5 September 2010 (UTC). Nominated by BurgererSF (talk) 10:19, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
- Good to go. Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 19:07, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
Stephen Lekapenos and Constantine Lekapenos
- ... that the brothers Stephen and Constantine Lekapenos overthrew their father, the Byzantine emperor Romanos I Lekapenos, only to be themselves removed from power by Constantine VII after a few weeks?
Created by Dimadick (talk). Nominated by Cplakidas (talk) at 07:46, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
1976–77 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team
- ... that 1976–77 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team reached the Regional finals of the 1977 NCAA Men's Division I Basketball Tournament on the stregth of a record-setting rebounding performance by Phil Hubbard?
5x expanded by TonyTheTiger (talk). Nominated by TonyTheTiger (talk) at 07:35, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
1975–76 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team
- ... that 1975–76 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team was ranked in the AP Poll sixteen of seventeen weeks?
5x expanded by TonyTheTiger (talk). Nominated by TonyTheTiger (talk) at 07:35, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
1973–74 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team
- ... that the 1973–74 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team included Campy Russell who won the Chicago Tribune Silver Basketball as Big Ten Conference MVP and Johnny Orr who won the Big Ten Coach of the Year?
Created by TonyTheTiger (talk). Nominated by TonyTheTiger (talk) at 07:30, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
1974–75 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team
- ... that the 1974–75 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team finished the season ranked in the AP Poll, but unranked in the Coaches' Poll?
Created by TonyTheTiger (talk). Nominated by TonyTheTiger (talk) at 07:30, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
Frank C. Garland
- ... that after seeing a map of the U.S. that showed higher cancer rates in Northern states, Frank C. Garland did a study that found that increased Vitamin D from sun exposure can reduce colon cancer risk?
Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 05:38, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
Sartaj Aziz
- ... that Sartaj Aziz was the Finance Minister when Pakistan conducted its 1998 nuclear tests, and the Foreign Minister of Pakistan during the Kargil war with India in 1999?
Created by S h i v a (Visnu) (talk). Nominated by S h i v a (Visnu) (talk) at 05:02, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
List of Major League Baseball hitters with four home runs in one game
- ... that fans threw silver coins onto the field to celebrate Bobby Lowe (pictured) hitting four home runs in a single Major League Baseball game?
5x expanded by Staxringold (talk). Nominated by Staxringold (talk) at 03:50, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
- The article meets DYK standards for length and sourcing and the hook length is fine. The online source from the Sporting News and his obituary in The New York Times both say that fans tossed $160 in coins. At the time, everything other than pennies and nickels were silver, so I don't doubt that there were silver coins included, but the wording "fans threw silver coins" could mean any number of coins. Whatever metal they were made of, $160 worth is a lot of coins and I would suggest wording it as "fans threw $160 in coins", or some variation thereof. Some mention could also be made in the hook that he was the first player to accomplish the feat. Nice article and one that it is absolutely surprising never existed before. Alansohn (talk) 05:53, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
- The offline source goes to the silver bit. I avoided saying the $ value because without inflation (which starts making this long) it looks odd. The article existed before, this is an expansion nom. How's this for an alt? Staxringold talk 12:00, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
- ALT1: ... that fans threw silver coins onto the field to celebrate Bobby Lowe (pictured) hitting four home runs in a single Major League Baseball game, the first player to accomplish the feat?
Arthur Roy Mitchell
- ... that prior to 1940 the Colorado cowboy artist Arthur Roy Mitchell sketched the cover pages of many western pulp magazines?
Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 03:44, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
- ALT: ... that in 1959 the cowboy and western artist Arthur Roy Mitchell designed the centennial emblem for the 1859 Colorado gold rush?
Larry Ashmead
- ... that Larry Ashmead wrote the book Bertha Venation: And Hundreds of Other Funny Names of Real People, featuring such people as Hedda Lettuce, Stan Dupp and Jaime Cardinal Sin (pictured) of the Philippines?
Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 02:08, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
- Hedda Lettuce is not a good choice here, as it's a made-up name for a drag queen.--Wetman (talk) 18:41, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
2010 Pakistan cricket spot-fixing controversy
- ... that the Pakistani High Commissioner to Britain condemned the Int'l Cricket Council's suspension of the Pakistani cricketers charged with spot-fixing in the 4th Pakistan-England Test?
Created by S h i v a (Visnu) (talk). Nominated by S h i v a (Visnu) (talk) at 00:57, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
- Comment I have a separate nomination of spot-fixing waiting to be reviewed if you wanted to turn this into a double nom?
... that the Pakistani High Commissioner to Britain condemned the Int'l Cricket Council's suspension of the three Pakistani cricketers charged with spot-fixing in the 4th Pakistan-England Test? Francium12 23:25, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
- Sure - not a bad idea at all. :) Shiva (Visnu) 14:11, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on September 4
Mesa Oil Field
- ... that Mesa Oil Field was formally abandoned in 1976 and sits on a mesa in Santa Barbara, California? Created by Antandrus (talk) Nominated by moreno oso (talk) 05:40, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
- ALT1 ...that Mesa Oil Field was first drilled in 1922 and produced 3.7 million barrels of oil during its brief lifetime?
- ALT2 ...that Mesa Oil Field is similar to the Ellwood Oil Field which is on a mesa bluff twelve miles west of Santa Barbara, California?
Gabriele von Lutzau
- ... that Gabriele von Lutzau, the "Angel of Mogadishu", later became a noted sculptor of "guardian figures" - which she has painted black since September 11, 2001?
Created by Herostratus (talk). Self nom at 05:06, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
Jim Wilkinson (former U.S. government employee)
- ... that Jim Wilkinson, a Republican, did public relations under President George W. Bush, has been called a spinmeister and propagandist, and likes to stay behind the scenes?
5x expanded by Shootbamboo (talk). Self nom at 00:36, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
Denard Robinson
- ... that Denard "Shoelace" Robinson earlier this month set Michigan's single-game record for total offense at 383 yards and did so in his first game as a starter and with his shoes untied?
Created by Cbl62 (talk). Self nom at 19:45, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
Minuscule 782 (Gregory-Aland)
- ... that according to Minuscule 782 Jesus wrote sins of his opponents on the ground?
Created by Leszek Jańczuk (talk). Self nom at 00:22, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
- I don't understand how the article supports the hook. Can you make things clearer? Gaius Cornelius (talk) 12:19, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
Charles Ives House
- ... that the house (pictured) in Danbury, Connecticut, where Charles Ives was born has been moved twice to allow local banks to expand their buildings?
- Comment: Fivefold text expansion. Hook fact is on p. 3 of source document
5x expanded by Daniel Case (talk). Nominated by Daniel Case (talk) at 08:04, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
1962–63 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team
- ... that the 1962–63 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team set the current Michigan Wolverines men's basketball single-game rebound record?
Created by TonyTheTiger (talk). Nominated by TonyTheTiger (talk) at 08:00, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
1960–61 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team
- ... that John Tidwell of the 1960–61 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team became the first Michigan Wolverines men's basketball player to average 20 points per game for his career?
Created by TonyTheTiger (talk). Nominated by TonyTheTiger (talk) at 08:00, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
1958–59 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team
- ... that M. C. Burton, Jr. of the 1958–59 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team became the first player to lead the Big Ten Conference in scoring and rebounding for a season?
Created by TonyTheTiger (talk). Nominated by TonyTheTiger (talk) at 08:00, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
Marinens Flyvebaatfabrikk M.F.3
- ... that Royal Norwegian Navy Air Service's first tests at dropping torpedoes from aircraft were carried out with Marinens Flyvebaatfabrikk M.F.3 floatplanes?
Created by Manxruler (talk). Self nom at 05:17, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
George Hitchcock (poet)
- ... that asked his profession in testimony before the House Un-American Activities Committee, poet George Hitchcock responded "I am a gardener. I do underground work on plants"?
Created by Bongomatic (talk), Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 01:14, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
George Hrab
- ... that independent musician and podcaster George Hrab (pictured) has customized his album packaging with such things as a tin box in order to encourage his fans to purchase his music?
Created by Krelnik (talk). Nominated by Krelnik (talk) at 00:32, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
- Comment: The fact is cited in the article per the rules. The book is available in limited preview mode in Google Books, you can see where I got the info there on pages 147 and 148. --Krelnik (talk) 19:12, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
- New Article. Hook verified. Well written. I could not see any preview of book given - what you can see might depend on where you are - however, I found an online document that verified the hook and added that as a reference. Good to go. Gaius Cornelius (talk) 12:39, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
Kulhar
- ... that a kulhar, a traditional handle-less terracotta cup from North India and Pakistan, gives hot beverages it contains an "earthy" taste and aroma?
Created by Hunnjazal (talk). Nominated by PFHLai (talk) at 17:44, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
- Good to go... Wish there was a pic Thelmadatter (talk) 14:26, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
Mairbek Taisumov
- ... that all of mixed martial artist Mairbek Taisumov's documented victories have come by knockout or submission?
Created by Paralympiakos (talk). Self nom at 11:22, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
Diplomatic uniform
- ... that diplomats from some countries still wear ornate diplomatic uniforms on certain occasions?
Created by Sandstein (talk). Nominated by Sandstein (talk) at 07:23, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
- OK for length, style references. Citations accepted on good faith.Shadygrove2007 (talk) 09:08, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
French Royal Army (1652-1830)
- ... that the French Royal Army (1652-1830) was considered to have been one of the most powerful armies in Europe under Louis XIV?
- ALT1:... that from 1652 until 1830 the French royal army fought in eleven major wars?
- ALT2:... that French royal troops invaded Spain to support that that nation's monarch during an 1823 uprising?
- ALT3:... that French royal troops attacked the Spanish Netherlands when portions of that provice were not ceded to Louis XIV as part of his wife's dowry?
- Comment: I personally prefer Alt 3.
Created by DCI2026 (talk). Self nom at 00:30, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
- As a protest here, because the article has absolutely nothing to say about the actual subject, but is a tour at breakneck speed of wars France was involved in, and the reasons for and results of them. Whether these wars were fought using poison-dart blowpipes or nuclear weapons, by men or by single-breasted women, will not be discovered from this article. Johnbod (talk) 03:38, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
- I added some sections that explain more about the army itself, and I've also added some pictures. —Preceding unsigned comment added by DCI2026 (talk • contribs) 06:52, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
Tyonajanegen
- ... that Tyonajanegen, a woman from the Oneida tribe, fought in the American Revolutionary War?
Created by Gobonobo (talk). Self nom at 23:00, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
Not yet up to 1500 bytes of prose with the prose tool (only 1285 bytes now). Can it be expanded some? Ruhrfisch ><>° 04:22, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
- Yes. The length should be good now. Gobonobo 05:17, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
- It is good now. Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 10:59, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
- Length, date and hook confirmed. Ruhrfisch ><>° 19:16, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
1965–66 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team
- ... that the 1965–66 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team featured Cazzie Russell who was drafted number one overall following the season?
5x expanded by TonyTheTiger (talk). Nominated by TonyTheTiger (talk) at 21:41, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
B. Frank Heintzleman
- ... that Alaska Territorial Governor B. Frank Heintzleman proposed dividing the territory in two and granting statehood to only one section?
5x expanded by Allen3 (talk). Self nom at 21:35, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
Carrier Strike Group Three
- ... that Carrier Strike Group Three was the first U.S. Navy carrier strike group to make an overseas deployment with a Helicopter Maritime Strike Squadron (HSM) as part of its embarked air wing (pictured)?
Created by Marcd30319 (talk). Nominated by Marcd30319 (talk) at 21:03, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
- Good to go. Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 11:01, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
Parodia tenuicylindrica, Parodia arnostiana, Parodia buiningii
- ... that, though originally described as members of the genus Notocactus, cacti Parodia tenuicylindrica (pictured), P. buiningii and P. arnostiana are now considered members of Parodia?
Created by J Milburn (talk). Nominated by J Milburn (talk) at 21:00, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
- Note that the first two articles are expansions of one-line stubs, the other is new. J Milburn (talk) 10:45, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
1964–65 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team
- ... that the 1964–65 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team was the first Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team to defeat a number one ranked team?
5x expanded by User:TonyTheTiger (talk). Self nom at 20:58, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
- (alt)... that the 1964–65 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team continues to hold the Big Ten Conference single-season rebounding record?--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 21:00, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
John Greenhill
- ... that English portrait painter John Greenhill died, aged only 32, after being found in the gutter following a drinking session at the Vine Tavern in London?
Created by Shadygrove2007 (talk). Self nom at 20:42, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
- We need an inline reference per paragraph, it's really not clear where the information in the article has come from at the moment. Smartse (talk) 10:12, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
- Done The article is transcribed and edited from Dictionary of National Biography - I have added a template just to clarify. All apparently "unsourced" statements are in the DNB reference. Shadygrove2007 (talk) 10:23, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
- Ok, I think we still need inline citations regardless of whether it came from a PD source. Also, I saw a few weeks ago that there was a discussion on whether or not it was acceptable to use PD sources for DYK or not. Tarebia granifera (the article that was discussed) didn't appear on the main page and as that was only a couple of weeks ago, I'm not sure if this should either. Smartse (talk) 17:12, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
- The DNB template in "references" section indicates that DNB source text has been incorporated (i.e. in this case cut and pasted, then edited) into the final wiki article - virtually every sentence comes originally from DNB. Adding citations for every statement (all bearing the number ) is not necessary in this particular case - in fact it would just add visual clutter. Read the DNB source - you will find that all the statements in the article, including the hook, are absolutely supported by all the sources. Shadygrove2007 (talk) 20:44, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
- I think we need to decide whether or not a copy + paste from a public domain source is suitable for DYK first, before arguing about the need for inline citations. I've started a discussion about it here. Smartse (talk) 16:02, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
- I object to using copied-and-pasted text for a DYK nomination. It isn't fair to other people writing articles that are actually new, and it isn't fair to whoever may come around later and replace this with an article based on a more current view of the topic but whose article will get disqualified from DYK because this copied-and-pasted version has already appeared there. --Hegvald (talk) 19:01, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
Per Misplaced Pages:WIADYK number 1 point 4 "Try to pick articles that are original to Misplaced Pages (not inclusions of free data sources)". Sorry, I should have noticed that earlier. Also can you check the link to the DNB - searching the full text in the link given I couldn't find any mention of this person. Smartse (talk) 19:13, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
- Sorry I linked you to the wrong volume - I've now fixed it - see page 79 here.
- One of the WIKI guidelines is "assume good faith". :There seems to be some misunderstanding here. The hook has absolutely not been cut and pasted from anywhere - it is original based on facts from the article. The article is also ORIGINAL as it has been extensively rewritten and edited. If you read the WIKI article and compare it to the original DNB text you will find appreciable differences. Also remember that sources are VERY limited for many lesser-known artists of the period, and in my experience DNB (a real encyclopedia compiled by experts - not just an internnet PD resource) is often the best to start with. This is very different from modern biography where there is a huge amount of working material which needs to be compiled from many sources.
- Re: "Copy and paste": A copy and paste from DNB is a sensible and efficient way of creating an initial template on which to base the final article. Several hours of work of additional work has then gone into editing, updating, rephrasing and checking with other sources. Images have to be researched and added, and categorised in wikicommons. Internal linking with other WIKI pages is quite a job in itself because the original text often only gives surnames or incomplete aristocratic titles which requires careful checking and reading of other WIKI articles and other sources to make sure that links go to the right page. Also, material has to be sifted out which is out of date - for example paintings may have been moved to other venues, county boundaries change etc etc. There are any number of facts which need to be double-checked from other sources. Other facts not available at the time of DNB (c. 1900) may need to be added to update the text. A lot of rephrasing is needed because of differences in the usage between 1900 and now etc etc. In other words, a lot of work, and, dare I say it, expertise has gone into putting this biography together.
- That's it folks.Shadygrove2007 (talk) 21:25, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
Samuel Eyles Pierce
- ... that English minister Samuel Eyles Pierce was accused him of antinomianism by his congregation in Truro and that even his wife withdrew her financial support of his ministry?
Created by Dr. Blofeld (talk), Rosiestep (talk). Nominated by Dr. Blofeld (talk) at 20:30, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
Hook is referenced to ONDB which requires subscription. Dr. Blofeld 20:30, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
Hamilton Watch Complex
- ... that the former factory and headquarters (pictured) of the Hamilton Watch Company, in Lancaster, Pennsylvania, was converted into an apartment and condominium complex?
Created by Niagara (talk). Self nom at 19:47, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
- There are statements of plans to covert the building into apartments but nothing about if anything was completed.Thelmadatter (talk) 21:06, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
Romstrade
Created by Bine Mai (talk). Self nom at 19:38, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
1963–64 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team
- ... that the 1963–64 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team earned the University of Michigan its first trip to the NCAA Men's Division I Basketball Tournament final four?
Created by TonyTheTiger (talk). Nominated by TonyTheTiger (talk) at 18:25, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
Charles "Buffalo" Jones
- ... that Charles "Buffalo" Jones, a frontiersman who helped to preserve the buffalo from extinction, was the inspiration for Zane Grey's The Last of the Plainsmen?
- ALT:... that Charles "Buffalo" Jones, the first game warden at Yellowstone National Park, once roped an unruly bear and spanked the animal on its rear?
Created/expanded by Billy Hathorn (Billy Hathorn talk). Self nom at 18:05, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
- Both hooks check out Thelmadatter (talk) 15:04, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
Francis Farm Petroglyphs
- ... that the Francis Farm Petroglyphs are among Pennsylvania's leading petroglyph sites, even though the culture of their creators is unknown?
Created by Nyttend (talk). Self nom at 17:55, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
- Good to go Thelmadatter (talk) 03:11, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
Suggest a different hook. The riddle about who created the engravings seems to have no impact on its fame.--Pgallert (talk) 08:43, 7 September 2010 (UTC)ALT 1... that it is unknown which culture created the Francis Farm Petroglyphs, one of Pennsylvania's leading petroglyph sites?
- Why? First off, this is not a famous site; "leading" means one of the most important from an archaeological point of view, or in other words, Francis Farm has a greater potential to reveal information than almost any other petroglyph in the state. Secondly, there is a connection between its information potential and the unknown nature of the people who produced it: we can learn more information about this petroglyph than we can about most others in the state, but we can't even know who made it. Nyttend (talk) 11:57, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
- The key statement for the "leading" bit is found in the "Recognition" section — it's the sentence that begins with "Many sites in the upper Ohio River valley...". Nyttend (talk) 11:59, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
- I do not question the word "leading", I doubt the logical connection implied by "even though". This is not
supported by any of the sourcesmentioned in the article. If it was known who created the petroglyphs, would Francis Farm Petroglyphs be lessfamousimportant? --Pgallert (talk) 07:38, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
- You're completely missing the point. I know that you didn't question "leading"; it's that you misunderstood its meaning. The more that is known or likely to be known about an archaeological site, the more important it is. In other words, we know or are likely to know more from this site than almost any other Pennsylvania petroglyphs, but we don't even know who made them. Do I have to have a source for something that should be obvious but isn't mentioned in the hook — especially since this was already approved? Nyttend (talk) 14:05, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
- No, if there is a logical connection between the two facts then your hook is fine. That wasn't obvious to me, but that seems to be my deficiency, sorry. --Pgallert (talk) 14:42, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
- I do not question the word "leading", I doubt the logical connection implied by "even though". This is not
- Looks like this is resolved..... back to Thelmadatter (talk) 15:00, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
Bògòlanfini
- ... that Bògòlanfini (pictured), a traditional Malian fabric, is dyed with fermented mud?
5x expanded by Sandstein (talk). Nominated by Sandstein (talk) at 17:06, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
- . Expansion and hook verified. --Sulmues 12:17, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
Mithya
- ... that Indian film Mithya marked the singing debut of Sanchita Bhattyacharya in the Hindi cinema industry?
5x expanded by Mspraveen (talk). Self nom at 16:31, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
Albany Convention Center
- ... that the design of the Albany Convention Center in Albany, New York, includes saving the city's oldest building (pictured) and possibly using it as a visitor center?
Created by UpstateNYer (talk). Self nom at 15:29, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
Michael S. Smith (interior designer)
- ... that interior designer Michael S. Smith is responsible for the 2010 makeover of the White House Oval Office. --Hegvald (talk) 15:13, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
I would be grateful if some knowledgeable person could check the DYK-relevant size of the article before it gets too close to its DYK deadline. It is certainly expandable, but I need to know, so I can work on it while I have time available. --Hegvald (talk) 18:36, 6 September 2010 (UTC)- OK, I figured out how to use the script to check the size. It is still a bit on the short side. I will get back to the topic tomorrow and expand the article. --Hegvald (talk) 19:50, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
Censorship in Spain
- ... that as a result of Censorship in Spain same-sex marriage was legalized only 24 years after divorce was legalized?
Created by Tommy2010 (talk). Self nom at 14:15, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
- I know this doesn't exactly fall under "censorship" as defined, but it is more or less censorship. Comments welcomed. Tommy! 14:18, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
- That's not censorship - it shouldn't even be in the article, never mind the hook. Quite a bit of the article isn't about censorship in fact! Perhaps something about censorship under Franco, added to the article, would make a decent hook. But, article needs quite a lot of work to focus on its supposed topic to justify front page exposure. Rd232 14:45, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
- Alright. Tommy! 14:49, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
Amantaka Hotel
- ... that Jude Law and Sienna Miller reportedly stayed at the Amantaka Hotel in Luang Prabang, Laos in August 2010?
Created by Dr. Blofeld (talk). Nominated by Dr. Blofeld (talk) at 13:30, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
- Is that so?
Yes, that is so. Dr. Blofeld 17:05, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
- Sorry, but I don't think this is at all appropriate in light of WP:BLP. The very presence of "reportedly" in the hook is a major red flag. The statement is sourced to the Daily Mail—not exactly a paragon of accuracy and impartiality. If the statement stays, the Gulf News reference should be removed, as it is simply the Mail article published in a different paper. Fvasconcellos (t·c) 02:18, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
Torgeir Vraa
- ... that in the Norwegian 1906 election second round of voting, Torgeir Vraa was endorsed by the Liberal Party, which he left in 1897 together with Christopher Hornsrud?
Created by Geschichte (talk). Self nom at 12:28, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
Niels Ødegaard
- ... that Niels Ødegaard of Gjøvik is the longest-sitting mayor in any Norwegian municipality?
Created by Geschichte (talk). Self nom at 12:23, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
Parachartergus apicalis
- ... that the genitalia of male Parachartergus apicalis (pictured) can perform movements of startling complexity?
- ALT1:... that male Parachartergus apicalis (pictured) may stimulate females with their genitalia during courtship?
- ALT2:... that Parachartergus apicalis (pictured) will attack Camponotus atriceps if they try to tend their treehoppers?
Created by Smartse (talk). Nominated by Smartse (talk) at 12:09, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
- alt1 makes me think "so what?". main hook is cool but "startling complexity", which you quote in the article, does not appear in ref 6 (not via a pdf search at least). alt2 does not have a ref right after it and does not seem to appear in ref 5. — Rlevse • Talk • 12:24, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
- Re alt1 - fair enough, I just found it funny reading the reference. The references for the other two are scans so a pdf search doesn't work (I don't know how google scholar manages to do search them?!). The main hook is discussed on page 296 of the reference cited, alt2 is on page 126, in the last paragraph before the discussion of this ref. I can add more reference tags if you would like but I thought one per paragraph was sufficient. Thanks for the review. Smartse (talk) 09:26, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
- main and second alt ok. — Rlevse • Talk • 20:59, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks, can we use the main one if the image isn't used, and ALT2 if it is? Smartse (talk) 16:19, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
LucyPhone
- ... that LucyPhone allows consumers to avoid the wait time that occurs when call center operators place them on hold?
Created by Cunard (talk). Nominated by Cunard (talk) at 07:13, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
Jeshua Anderson
- ... that Jeshua Anderson broke the 22-year old U.S. high school record in the 300 m hurdles at the 2007 CIF State Track and Field Championships?
Created by Bender235 (talk). Self nom at 00:08, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
Older nominations
Articles created/expanded on September 3
Missouri French
- ... that Missouri French is a nearly extinct dialect of French that developed in what is now the midwestern United States during the colonial period?
Created by Cuchullain (talk). Self nom at 21:20, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
- Length and date verified, inaccessible hook refs accepted in good faith. —Bruce1ee 14:53, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
Gail Koff
- ... that Gail Koff, one of three partners in Jacoby & Meyers, had her prenuptial agreement with attorney Ralph Brill invalidated, with Koff granted 65% of marital assets?
Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 19:37, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
Vincenzo Calvesi
- ... that Italian tenor Vincenzo Calvesi (pictured) created the role of Ferrando in the world premiere of Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart's Così fan tutte at the Burgtheater in Vienna in 1790?
Created by 4meter4 (talk). Nominated by 4meter4 (talk) at 10:00, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
Ralph Haben
- ... that former Speaker of the Florida House of Representatives Ralph Haben (pictured) has survived four near-death experiences: a black widow bite, a sinking boat, a plane crash, and a bad case of hashimoto's thyroiditis?
Created by Scapler (talk). Self nom at 02:27, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
Million Dollar Backfield
- ... that after investing enough money to create a Million Dollar Backfield for the Chicago Cardinals, the team's owner died before he could see it defeat its championship rival?
Created by Pennsylvania Penguin (talk). Nominated by GeeJo (talk) at 10:55, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
- New article. Hook verified. Good to go. Gaius Cornelius (talk) 23:21, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
Onneca Fortúnez
- ... that the Muslim caliph of Córdoba Abd-ar-Rahman III and the Christian king of Pamplona García Sánchez I, who were at war during the Spanish Reconquista, were both grandsons of Onneca Fortúnez?
Created by BomBom (talk). Self nom at 01:59, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
Cat house (Riga)
- ... that cat statues were placed on the Cat House turret rooftops with raised tails turned to the house of the Great Guild in Riga to seek retribution?
Created by Xil (talk). Nominated by Philaweb (talk) at 22:07, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
Smoking in Indonesia
- ... that Indonesia is the fifth largest tobacco market in the world, and that in 2008 over 165 billion cigarettes (factory pictured) were sold in Indonesia?
Created by Dr. Blofeld (talk), Nvvchar (talk). Nominated by Dr. Blofeld (talk) at 17:07, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
- Added an img.-- N.V.V. Char . 17:31, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
- Alternate img of Kretek Cigarette (an Indonseian cigarette) smoking.-- N.V.V. Char . 17:49, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
Peggy Ann Jones
- ... that after a 15-year career as a principal with the D'Oyly Carte Opera Company, Peggy Ann Jones moved to musicals, including in the original cast of The Phantom of the Opera?
Created by Ssilvers (talk). Nominated by Ssilvers (talk) at 15:12, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
Tirana Circus
- ... that Ymer Pampuri, former World record holder in weightlifting has worked all his life in the Tirana Circus as an acrobat?
Created by Vinie007 (talk). Nominated by Sulmues (talk) at 03:41, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
September 2010 Quetta bombing
- ... that 73 people were killed in Quetta while marching to protest Israel's control of Jerusalem?
Created by Wikireader41 (talk). Nominated by Chesdovi (talk) at 01:18, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
The Grand Design (book)
- ... that Stephen Hawking and Leonard Mlodinow explain in their new book that "the universe can and will create itself from nothing" without invoking of God?
Created by Alokprasad84 (talk), Mbz1 (talk) and Drbogdan (talk). Self nom at 21:16, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
length, style and references check out. Ready to go. Shadygrove2007 (talk) 09:15, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
Palaeovespa
- ... that one species of the extinct wasp Palaeovespa (fossil pictured) fed caterpillars to its larvae?
5x expanded by Kevmin (talk). Self nom at 14:40, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
- There no apostrophe in "its"--Wetman (talk) 17:45, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
- 5x expansion verified, AGFing the hook fact. I've removed "at least" from the hook since this implies that others did, but the article only mentions one did. Smartse (talk) 16:25, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
Richard Etchberger
- ... that Medal of Honor recipient Richard Etchberger's original nomination for the medal was rejected because the mission he was on was classified?
Created by Jwillbur (talk). Self nom at 06:00, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
- His medal is scheduled be presented on September 21, so it might be cool to postpone the hook till then. In which case an alt hook could be used:
- Alt 1:... that United States Air Force airman Richard Etchberger will posthumously receive the Medal of Honor today? — jwillbur 06:09, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
Bellevue, Schenectady, New York
- ... that 39.2% of Schenectady, New York's Bellevue neighborhood is zoned industrial, but excluding the General Electric plant it is only 1%?
Created by Camelbinky (talk). Self nom at 03:11, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
Sod House Ranch
- ... that Oregon cattle baron Peter French was murdered near the Sod House Ranch (bunkhouse pictured) in 1897?
- Comment: Hook source is from "The Oregon Desert", p.120.
Created by Orygun (talk). Nominated by Orygun (talk) at 00:17, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
- Length, style and references OK.Shadygrove2007 (talk) 13:47, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
Pancyclic graph
- ... that every round-robin tournament either has a set of players who win all games against players outside the set, or its graph of wins and losses is pancyclic, having directed cycles of all lengths?
Created by David Eppstein (talk). Self nom at 22:26, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
Daniel P. Davison
- ... that as president of U.S. Trust, Daniel P. Davison classified clients with less than $300,000 in assets as "poor", but was willing to have staff walk a dog for those with assets exceeding $2 million?
Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 21:18, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
Church of St John sub Castro, Lewes, Russian Memorial, Lewes, The Finnish Prisoner
- ... that Tsar Alexander II of Russia had a monument (pictured) erected in an English churchyard commemorating Finnish prisoners of war whose story inspired a 2007 opera?
- Comment: All 3 articles moved from sandbox to mainspace on 3 September.
Created by Struway2 (talk). Self nom at 19:59, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
- If it helps: the two halves of the hook (Tsar's memorial to prisoners, story inspiring opera) appear separately in each article:
- in Church: both in Russian Memorial section, refs #27 and 29;
- in Memorial: ref #14 in Memorial section, ref #12 in Legacy section;
- in Opera: ref #3 in Background section, ref #1 in Production section.
- Same two sources in each case. Hope this makes checking easier, cheers, Struway2 (talk) 16:31, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
Sachet
- ... that a dream pillow helps promote sleep?
Created by Doug Coldwell (talk). Self nom at 19:56, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
- Do they really? Has Misplaced Pages found the cure for insomnia? In the article, this claim is sourced to and , which are not reliable sources. We can't run this hook. Sandstein 22:48, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
- In the article I wrote: These "herb pillows" of the 18th, 19th and 20th centuries of aromatic herbs were believed to help the advancement of sleep. The Walter book source reference says: The "herb pillows" of the eighteenth and nineteenth centuries (little sacks of aromatic herbs thought to be a remedy for sleeplessness) always included lavender, clovepinks and costmary as principal ingredients. The White book source reference says: There are several herbs that have a reputation for easing insomnia, and by creating a blend of these leaves and flowers, you can make small "herb pillows" to help you sleep. I am just going by the book source references.--Doug Coldwell 23:51, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
- Sorry, I searched the article for the words "promote sleep" used in the hook and found the text "are made with sleep inducing ingredients like ... that help promote sleep", which is sourced to these unreliable sources. If the hook is to refer to the text "were believed to help the advancement of sleep", then that is exactly what the hook should say. There's a big difference between us reporting somebody else's belief that these cushions help one sleep, or us as an encyclopedia asserting that they do. See WP:NOR. Sandstein 06:06, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
- ALT1: "... that a "dream pillow" is a type of perfume cushion filled with aromatic herbs claimed to promote sleep?" Shadygrove2007 (talk) 09:42, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
- ALT2: "... that a dream pillow is believed to help the advancement of sleep?"--Doug Coldwell 11:45, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
- ALT1 works. The other criteria are met. ALT2 has the problem that "is believed" is a textbook WP:WEASEL word and shouldn't be in an article, let alone in a main page hook; besides, according to the text, they "were believed", past tense. Sandstein 11:56, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
- ALT1 also seems unsatisfactory as the word "claimed" is an expression of doubt which seems inappropriate for this well-established usage. The term perfume cushion does not seem right either as it is little used - zero hits on Google Scholar, for example, and so is not a common name. The article currently conflates several types of scented package which have used in various sizes and for various purposes. It might be better if these were split and the scented pillow used for sleeping covered under a clearer title. Colonel Warden (talk) 22:18, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
- Changed name to Sachet (scented bag). There are thousands of hits in Google using Sachet "scented bag". The French term "sachet de senteurs" (Bag of Scents) seems to be a popular French name for this item.--Doug Coldwell 12:41, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks. I had a look through sources to see what names might be better and agree that sachet is a good choice. For example, the OED has A small perfumed bag or satchel. Colonel Warden (talk) 14:55, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
- ALT3: "... that a "dream pillow" is a type of sachet filled with aromatic herbs to help overcome sleeplessness?" --Doug Coldwell 12:41, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
- ALT4: "... that a "dream pillow" is a type of sachet filled with aromatic herbs designed to help overcome sleeplessness?" Sadads (talk) 00:27, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
- ALT5: "... that sachets filled with certain herbs have a slight narcotic effect?" --Doug Coldwell 17:38, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
- ALT6: "... that sachets are called "scented bags", "sleep pillows", or "moth bags" depending on their ingredients?" -Doug Coldwell 20:39, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
- ALT7: "... that fragrant sachets were used by Queen Isabella of Spain? --Doug Coldwell 21:15, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
- - hook 7 works. Dincher (talk) 23:43, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
Brazilian ironclad Rio de Janeiro
- ... that the Brazilian ironclad Rio de Janeiro struck two mines on 2 September 1866, during the War of the Triple Alliance, and sank instantly with the loss of 53 of her crew?
5x expanded by Sturmvogel 66 (talk). Nominated by Sturmvogel 66 (talk) at 18:52, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
Andhra Pradesh Vidhan Parishad
- ... that the Andhra Pradesh Vidhan Parishad was created in 1958, abolished in 1985 and re-created in 2007?
Created by S h i v a (Visnu) (talk). Nominated by S h i v a (Visnu) (talk) at 18:25, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
Jacoby & Meyers
- ... that after the U.S. Supreme Court legalized the practice in the 1977 case Bates v. State Bar of Arizona, the law firm of Jacoby & Meyers was the first in the United States to advertise on television?
Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 16:27, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
Colonia Exhipódromo de Peralvillo
- ... that Mexico City's first formal horse racing track was built in Colonia Exhipódromo de Peralvillo?
Created by Thelmadatter (talk). Self nom at 15:47, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
Emu-wren, Southern Emu-wren, Rufous-crowned Emu-wren, Mallee Emu-wren
- ... that the common name Emu-wren of the Southern, Rufous-crowned and Mallee Emu-wrens comes from their emu-like tail feathers?
- Comment: could make common name the link to the Emu-wren page but that'd be an easter egg link(?)
5x expanded by Casliber (talk). Nominated by Casliber (talk) at 15:23, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
South Salem Academy
- ... that the village of South Salem, Ohio was founded to serve the needs of the Salem Academy?
Created by Nyttend (talk). Self nom at 13:39, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
- Good to go! The hook length and source have been verified and the article length and sourcing meets DYK standards. Alansohn (talk) 14:44, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
List of NME number-one singles from the 1980s
- ... that Elton John had a number one in the 1980s with "Nikita"?
Created by Rambo's Revenge (talk). Self nom at 11:59, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
- The article is a few hundred characters below the required 1,500. The article would benefit from some more discussion of the artists and songs that made the list, which should be readily available from sources and would easily put the article over the 1,500-character minimum for article prose. Alansohn (talk) 14:34, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
- Sorry about that. It is now over the 1,500 limit. I'll see if I can expand it further in future but that will do for now. Rambo's Revenge (talk) 18:20, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
- After reading the article in more detail, this appears to be a word-for-word copy from List of NME number-one singles from the 1970s, which in turn was copied from other articles about top hits in the UK. The only exception is the brief final paragraph which makes reference to some of the chart differences in the decade of the 1980s. There is plenty to write about on the subject, such as artists who appeared most often, songs that charted for the longest time, etc., that there can be much more added to the article about its subject. As the historical information is duplicated text and as it adds nothing to the list of top songs in the 1980s, I would recommend that this article not proceed to approval without a substantial reworking. Alansohn (talk) 20:59, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
The Most Unwanted Song
- ... that "The Most Unwanted Song" includes bagpipes, a children's choir, and an opera singer who raps about cowboys?
Created by 28bytes (talk). Self nom at 08:38, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
Thomas Tregosse
- ... that Puritan minister Thomas Tregosse was imprisoned for holding a Conventicle in Budock?
Created by Rosiestep (talk). Self nom at 07:22, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
- Style, length all OK. Refs in good faith. But need to expand the statement "He converted" as it is not clear exactly what is meant. Shadygrove2007 (talk) 10:00, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
- I agree with you that the meaning of the "He converted" sentence is unclear, and as I couldn't find additional references to expand on it, I've removed it from the article. --Rosiestep (talk) 02:37, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
Caleb Bailey
- ... that Corsair pilots of Caleb Bailey's Marine Aircraft Group 11 would make chocolate ice cream on missions in the Palau campaign during World War II?
Created by Strikehold (talk). Nominated by Strikehold (talk) at 07:14, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
List of planetary features with Māori names
- ... that a hydrocarbon lake on Saturn's moon Titan and an active volcano on Jupiter's moon Io are among the Solar System features named after deities from Māori mythology?
Created by Iridia (talk). Self nom at 06:40, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
Marty Huff
- ... that Michigan linebacker Marty Huff intercepted three passes thrown in one game by Hall of Fame quarterback Mike Phipps and played professional football in the NFL, CFL and WFL?
Created by Cbl62 (talk). Self nom at 06:03, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
Eight Bells
- ... that Winslow Homer's 1886 oil on canvas Eight Bells inspired the artist N.C. Wyeth to name his Maine home after the painting?
Created/expanded by JNW (talk). Nominated by JNW (talk) at 04:07, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
- Length, date, sources OK. The hook's assertion "... inspired to name his Maine home after ..." is not supported in this form by the source, which just says: "Wyeth christened the old house "Eight Bells" and hung a reproduction of Winslow Homer's painting by that name in the living room." I recommend using the following hook: "... that artist N.C. Wyeth named his Maine home after Winslow Homer's 1886 painting Eight Bells?" Sandstein 15:57, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
- Concur with your suggestion. JNW (talk) 22:07, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on September 2
Giuseppe Siboni
- ... that the Italian operatic tenor Giuseppe Siboni founded the Royal Conservatory of Music in Copenhagen?
Created by 4meter4 (talk). Nominated by 4meter4 (talk) at 14:25, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
Katukurunde Nanananda Thera
- ... that Katukurunde Nanananda Thera was the first to point out a unique grammatical shift in a controversial Buddhist Pali passage?
- ALT1: ... that Katukurunde Nanananda Thera was the scholar who coined the term Conceptual Proliferation, now widely used in Buddhist Pali translations?
- Comment: See the section Concept and Reality. Stub created on 2nd September but article finalized on 5th.
Created by Foresterr (talk). Self nom at 05:47, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
- I moved this nom from September 5 to here.--Chanaka L (talk) 07:13, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
Ed Shuttlesworth
- ... that fullback Ed Shuttlesworth became Michigan's all-time leader in rushing attempts while playing for teams that finished 30–1–1 from 1971 to 1973?
Created by Cbl62 (talk). Self nom at 18:26, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
Svenska Spindlar
- ... that the scientific names presented in Svenska Spindlar predate all other zoological nomenclature?
Created by FranciscoWelterSchultes (talk). Nominated by Stemonitis (talk) at 07:02, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
- The article isn't particuarly well sourced, there are paragraphs without any inline citations at present. If this can be fixed then I suggest:
- ALT1 ... that Svenska Spindlar was the first publication to name animals using binomial nomenclature?
- I think this is more interesting, and more understandable. Smartse (talk) 16:33, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
- But not necessarily correct, as some would object. Binominal names were used by some authors 200 years earlier. The point here is that Clerck 1757 established the first names which are still officially recognized as scientific names in zoology. Source is easy: Art. 3.1 of the ICZN Code rules that Clerck's names have precedence over all other names. I do not see why an additional source for this statement should be necessary.
- ALT2 ... that Svenska Spindlar was the first publication to establish scientific names for animals that are still used today?
- I usually put it in a way that the first animals to obtain a scientific name which is still used today, were 66 species of Swedish spiders. Araneus angulatus, the first animal that obtained a scientific name that is still used today, has no English Misplaced Pages page, otherwise this would also be interesting. --FranciscoWelterSchultes (talk) 21:18, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
- Update: There is now an article on Araneus angulatus, and it also satisfies the DYK criteria, so I think we can arrange a double hook, along the lines of:
- ALT3 ... that Araneus angulatus was the first scientific name validly published in zoological nomenclature, when it appeared in Svenska Spindlar in 1757.
- --Stemonitis (talk) 11:23, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
- Update: There is now an article on Araneus angulatus, and it also satisfies the DYK criteria, so I think we can arrange a double hook, along the lines of:
- But not necessarily correct, as some would object. Binominal names were used by some authors 200 years earlier. The point here is that Clerck 1757 established the first names which are still officially recognized as scientific names in zoology. Source is easy: Art. 3.1 of the ICZN Code rules that Clerck's names have precedence over all other names. I do not see why an additional source for this statement should be necessary.
William Trickett Smith II
- ... that the missing wife of William Trickett Smith II was discovered in a suitcase that surfaced after the 2007 Peru earthquake?
5x expanded by KimChee (talk). Self nom at 01:30, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
Nicola Zerola
- ... that Italian singer Nicola Zerola (pictured) made his professional debut in 1898 as a baritone in Ruggero Leoncavallo's Pagliacci, but later became a tenor, debuting in another role in the same opera in 1903?
Created by 4meter4 (talk). Nominated by PFHLai (talk) at 09:44, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
Angiolina Bosio
- ... that Italian soprano Angiolina Bosio (pictured) moved to Russia in 1853, became the highest paid singer at the Bolshoi Kamenny Theatre in St Petersburg and often performed with Tsar Alexander II in attendance?
- (alt.hook)... that Italian operatic soprano Angiolina Bosio (pictured) moved to Russia in 1853 and became the highest paid singer at the Bolshoi Kamenny Theatre in Saint Petersburg?
Created by 4meter4 (talk). Nominated by PFHLai (talk) at 12:30, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
Carlo Scalzi
- ... that Italian castrato Carlo Scalzi (pictured) performed at the wedding of Anne, Princess Royal and William IV, Prince of Orange in London, 1734?
Created by 4meter4 (talk). Nominated by PFHLai (talk) at 11:46, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
- Foreign language sources AGF Thelmadatter (talk) 03:15, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
Craig telescope
- ... that the Craig telescope in Wandsworth Common, London, was once the world's largest refracting telescope?
Created by Fotaun (talk). Nominated by PFHLai (talk) at 06:57, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
- It's a pity the article doesn't elaborate on these things. Good DYK hook materials. --174.89.156.104 (talk) 02:19, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
MV Mi Amigo
- ... that the Radio Caroline ship Mi Amigo (pictured) served with the Kriegsmarine during the Second World War?
Created by Mjroots (talk). Nominated by Mjroots (talk) at 20:26, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
- Date, length, hook, and source verified. Wilhelmina Will (talk) 00:21, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
Dhuvjan Monastery
- ... that the 11th century Dhuvjan Monastery in Albania contains an icon which includes remains of very important early Christian saints?
Created by Your Über Monkey (talk). Nominated by Sulmues (talk) at 18:25, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
- Comment: The paragraph where the hook claim is made is hard to understand, as already pointed out on the article's talk page. Have asked WP Albania for help. --Pgallert (talk) 15:36, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
- Reply Comment: See article's talk page. --Sulmues 18:42, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
- This problem is solved now, and I checked length and creation date. Albanian source accepted per AGF. What the source exactly says is discussed on the talk page. Tweaked the hook a bit (John Chrysostom, one of the saints, is not described as martyr, change to present tense). --Pgallert (talk) 07:59, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
Brazilian ironclad Tamandaré
- ... that the engines of the Brazilian ironclad Tamandaré broke down while she was passing in front of the Paraguayan guns at Curupaity during the War of the Triple Alliance and she had to be towed to safety by the ironclad Silvado?
5x expanded by Sturmvogel 66 (talk). Nominated by Sturmvogel 66 (talk) at 17:14, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
Jack Pitney
- ... that BMW advertising executive Jack Pitney convinced the company to market the Mini in the U.S., despite concerns that American buyers would not buy cars that small given the popularity of SUVs?
Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 12:50, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
Lewis Gregory
- ... that on his List A cricket debut, Lewis Gregory claimed four wickets against the Pakistanis?
Created by Harrias (talk). Self nom at 10:54, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
Gene Englund
- ... that Gene Englund won the NCAA Men's Division I Basketball Tournament and National Basketball League championship in back-to-back seasons?
Created by Jrcla2 (talk). Self nom at 00:12, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
HMS Aeolus (1801)
- ... that HMS Aeolus was involved in the pursuit of USS Constitution, and the capture of USS Nautilus, the first warship lost by either side in the War of 1812?
5x expanded by Benea (talk). Self nom at 23:59, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
- Good to go. AGF for the offline source.--White Shadows 21:27, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
Davara
- ... that the Davara was the first British trawler to be sunk in World War II?
Created by White Shadows (talk). Nominated by White Shadows (talk) at 22:36, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
- NOTE: I've just finished this article in my sandbox after several weeks of leaving it in my userspace. DYK rules mean that this is still eligible for a DYK since it was just transferred into the mainspace today :)-White Shadows 22:36, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
Skipper W
- ... that the American Quarter Horse stallion Skipper W got his chance as a breeding stallion when his sire slipped on some ice and broke his neck?
Created by Ealdgyth (talk). Self nom at 21:06, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
- - interesting. Dincher (talk) 22:08, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
C. Joseph Genster, Metrecal
- ... that C. Joseph Genster of Mead Johnson developed Metrecal in 1959 as part of a weight loss craze that had dieters subsist on nothing other than the 900 calories offered by drinking four cans a day?
Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 17:35, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
- - both hooks are good to go for DYK. Dincher (talk) 22:12, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
John Phillips (fighter)
- ... that John Phillips was the first fighter to test positive for banned substances in the Cage Rage promotion?
Created by Paralympiakos (talk). Self nom at 16:59, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
- If this is successful, just make sure that it links to John Phillips (fighter), not John Phillips. Cheers. Paralympiakos (talk) 17:02, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
- - ready. Dincher (talk) 22:15, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
Movimiento 2D
- ... that the Movimiento 2D is a Venezuelan opposition movement founded and led by the editor/proprietor of the daily El Nacional?
Created by Rd232 (talk). Self nom at 16:06, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
- - ready. Dincher (talk) 22:18, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
Greenbelt Cooperative Publishing Assn., Inc. v. Bresler, Dorothy Sucher
- ... that the U.S. Supreme Court ruled in Greenbelt Cooperative Publishing Assn., Inc. v. Bresler that the use of the word "blackmail" in an article by reporter Dorothy Sucher did not constitute libel?
Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 15:05, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
Marvin Bracy
- ... that in May 2010 Marvin Bracy would have bettered the world youth best in the 100 metres, if it had not been for the wind assistance?
Created by Bender235 (talk). Self nom at 14:02, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
- The hook fact doesn't seem to have a citation/reference in the article. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 15:16, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
- Fixed. That 10.19 s time is referenced ( is annother source). List of world youth bests in athletics is the other source, for the current WYB by Parson. —bender235 (talk) 15:37, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
- Really that needs citing in the article as well then, not just mentioned here. Also Misplaced Pages can't cite other Misplaced Pages articles as sources. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 16:23, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
- It is cited in the article. Parson's record is 10.23, Bracy ran a wind-aided 10.18. Saying that Bracy would've bettered Parson's record if it wasn't for the wind assistant, is—in my opinion—neither WP:SELF nor WP:OR. —bender235 (talk) 16:54, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
Colonia Cuauhtémoc, Mexico City
- ... that while home to skyscrapers such as the Torre Mayor (pictured) and the Mexican headquarters of HSBC, Colonia Cuauhtémoc in Mexico City is primarily residential?
Created by Thelmadatter (talk). Self nom at 13:56, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
Mr San Peppy
- ... that in 2011 the American Quarter Horse stallion Mr San Peppy will join his son Peppy San Badger and his full brother Peppy San in the American Quarter Horse Hall of Fame?
Created by Ealdgyth (talk). Self nom at 13:53, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
- - ready. Dincher (talk) 22:19, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
Daniel Tabera
- ... that the Spanish mixed martial artist Daniel Tabera has defeated multiple opponents on two separate occasions?
or
... that Daniel Tabera is the only man to have held Gilbert Yvel to a draw?
Created by Paralympiakos (talk). Self nom at 11:56, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
- "worldwide-known"? Who? Yvel is a nobody outside kickboxing. Truly "worldwide-known" figures such as Jesus, Muhammad, Hitler, Ghandi, Bill Gates, Obama, bin Laden, and maybe Superman and Santa Claus, etc. don't need descriptions like that to remind people that they are "worldwide-known". --174.89.156.104 (talk) 02:38, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
- He's world known in mixed martial arts. I think you know what it meant, but decided to be awkward. Paralympiakos (talk) 12:26, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
Luis Beltrán Prieto Figueroa
- ... that in 1967 Venezuela's ruling Democratic Action party denied the winner of its primary election the nomination for the 1968 presidential race - for being too leftwing?
Created by Rd232 (talk). Self nom at 09:59, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
Labrador Sea, Northwest Atlantic Mid-Ocean Channel
- ... that the Labrador Sea (pictured) contains NAMOC, one of the world's longest underwater channels?
- Comment: See NAMOC article. Materialscientist (talk) 05:30, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
5x expanded by Materialscientist (talk). Nominated by Materialscientist (talk) at 05:30, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
- 5x expansion of Labrador Sea verified, NAMOC is new and of sufficient length. AGF for the hook, it seems likely enough. Smartse (talk) 16:55, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
- ALT1 ... that the Labrador Sea (pictured) contains the Northwest Atlantic Mid-Ocean Channel, one of the world's longest underwater channels?
- I suggest this slightly amended hook, as I feel that the NAMOC acronym needs to be spelled out and the original hook was missing the word "the". Also, only one item should in bold type. -- L'ecrivant (talk) 22:32, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
- Ok, maybe ALT1 is better - they both need bolding though because one has been expanded and the other is a new article. Smartse (talk) 15:54, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
Coprinopsis variegata
- ... that scaly ink cap mushrooms (pictured) can attack and digest soil bacteria by growing out hyphae that secrete digestive chemicals?
Created by Sasata (talk). Self nom at 04:28, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
-
- ALT1... that scaly ink cap mushrooms (pictured) can attack and digest soil bacteria by growing hyphae that secrete digestive enzymes?
- You've written that they are chemicals in the article, but could you check the source to see if they are in fact enzymes? It seems more likely to me. Smartse (talk) 16:20, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
- I agree they are likely enzymes, but the source uses "compounds", and does not go into any detail about the nature of these compounds. I also checked the primary source, and the author does not speculate about this, so I think we should go with the generic "compounds" as in Alt2 (added slight tweak in wording to avoid repetition of "digest"). Thanks for checking, Sasata (talk) 19:24, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
- ALT2... that scaly ink cap mushrooms (pictured) can attack and consume soil bacteria by growing hyphae that secrete digestive compounds?
- Damn NOR! Better go with ALT2 then. Smartse (talk) 19:33, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
- You've written that they are chemicals in the article, but could you check the source to see if they are in fact enzymes? It seems more likely to me. Smartse (talk) 16:20, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
- ALT1... that scaly ink cap mushrooms (pictured) can attack and digest soil bacteria by growing hyphae that secrete digestive enzymes?
1967–68 ABA season
- ... that the New Jersey Americans were supposed to play a playoff game on their home court in the 1967–68 ABA season, but the Teaneck Armory (pictured) was booked by the circus and the team had to forfeit the game?
5x expanded by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 03:20, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
- The reference provided goes to the wrong article. I can't find the one you used, but I find another that will works: http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=ligsAAAAIBAJ&sjid=jMYEAAAAIBAJ&pg=4453,3817142. Otherwise, everything checks out.—Chris!c/t 20:15, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks for finding the error. The link in the reference has been corrected to point to the appropriate article. Alansohn (talk) 00:50, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
- Good to go—Chris!c/t 18:12, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
Lawrence E. Roberts
- ... that Lawrence E. Roberts was a pilot with the Tuskegee Airmen, a colonel in the United States Air Force, and the father of newscaster Robin Roberts?
Created by Rlevse (talk). Self nom at 02:46, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
- - ready. nice article. Dincher (talk) 00:10, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
- Thank you! — Rlevse • Talk • 01:19, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
Jammu and Kashmir Legislative Council
- ... that 9 out of the 36 members of the Jammu and Kashmir Legislative Council are to be elected exclusively by certified teachers and local governing bodies?
Created by S h i v a (Visnu) (talk). Nominated by S h i v a (Visnu) (talk) at 00:43, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on September 1
Paul Ryan Rudd
- ... that actor Paul Ryan Rudd–renown as a Shakespearean actor as well as for his roles as Brian Mallory in Beacon Hill TV series and as Billy in David Rabe's Streamers–died in 2010?
Created by Codehydro (talk). Self nom at 13:41, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
Mafalda Salvatini
- ... that Adolphus Frederick VI, Grand Duke of Mecklenburg had two sons with his mistress, the Berlin Opera star Mafalda Salvatini (pictured)?
Created by 4meter4 (talk). Nominated by 4meter4 (talk) at 13:16, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
- Isn't this a bit too gossipy and tabloid-ish for an encyclopedia? --174.93.83.228 (talk) 14:57, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
- No. It would be un-encyclopedic to leave out the affair which produced two children; one of whom became a famous designer. Any reputable biography on Salvatini would include this content.4meter4 (talk) 09:06, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
King of the Ring (2006)
- ... that World Wrestling Entertainment brought back the King of the Ring tournament in 2006 for the first time since discontinuing it in 2002?
5x expanded by Richard "Wrestler" Lopez (talk). Nominated by GaryColemanFan (talk) at 16:56, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
Main Street Historic District (Medina, New York)
- ... that portions of an 1820s mill race may remain underneath Main Street (pictured) in Medina, New York?
- Comment: Source for fact is on p. 54 of document (going by page numbers assigned by JavaScript reading software).
5x expanded by Daniel Case (talk). Nominated by Daniel Case (talk) at 20:10, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
- More like speculation than fact. --174.93.83.228 (talk) 15:04, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
- Whatever. While we may not speculate, our sources can. Daniel Case (talk) 05:03, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
- It's entirely appropriate for a hook to be based on referenced academic speculation. For example, see the hook that I wrote for the Dunns Pond Mound — the sources aren't certain, but they say that it's quite possible. Nyttend (talk) 14:07, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
Wolfgang Krause
- ... that Wolfgang Krause continued his scholarly work in runology even after he became blind?
Created by Yngvadottir (talk). Self nom at 17:44, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
- Good to go. AGF for book sources.--White Shadows 03:56, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
Sonia Prina
- ... that contralto Sonia Prina (pictured) performed the title role of Antonio Vivaldi's 1727 opera Orlando furioso at the Frankfurt Opera, staged as a rocker?
Created by 4meter4 (talk), Gerda Arendt (talk). Nominated by Gerda Arendt (talk) at 09:35, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
- Alt1... that contralto Sonia Prina (pictured) was dressed as a rocker when she performed the title role of Antonio Vivaldi's 1727 opera Orlando furioso at the Frankfurt Opera?4meter4 (talk) 13:49, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
- She was not only dressed (and tattoed) like a rocker but acted as one, so I think ALT1 says too little. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:14, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
Proyecto Dos
- ... that the 2008 thriller Proyecto Dos is the feature film debut of Spanish television director Guillermo Fernández Groizard?
- Comment: A 15x expansion
5x expanded by MichaelQSchmidt (talk). Self nom at 04:58, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
Francis Sumner (millowner)
- ... that before becoming a Glossop mill owner, Francis Sumner lived at Glossop Hall (pictured) after his mother and father died?
5x expanded by Victuallers (talk) and create by ClemRutter. Self nom at 22:27, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
- Not a comment about this hook's suitability, but I will just say that as a resident of this tiny town, this is my favourite hook ever! Paralympiakos (talk) 22:32, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
- With regards this one, I'm a little confused. It may be because it's early and I'm a little groggy, but it seems as though the source suggests he lived at Glossop Hall WITH his mother, following his father's death. Have I misinterpreted? Paralympiakos (talk) 10:19, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks, you are right... he lost his mother whilst there. Ive added "with new parents". OK? Victuallers (talk) 16:27, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
- Re-reading that source made me feel thoroughly stupid. I had to read it about five times to gain an understanding. My current understanding is that Ann Sumner (mother) died when Francis was a toddler. Robert Sumner (father) marries Barbara (now stepmother), before Robert (father) dies. Then Francis lives with stepmother and step-grandfather in Glossop Hall. Is that correct? If so, I'm happy to tick this one off. Paralympiakos (talk) 17:02, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
- Returned to original wording as it was correct Victuallers (talk) 16:05, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
- Re-reading that source made me feel thoroughly stupid. I had to read it about five times to gain an understanding. My current understanding is that Ann Sumner (mother) died when Francis was a toddler. Robert Sumner (father) marries Barbara (now stepmother), before Robert (father) dies. Then Francis lives with stepmother and step-grandfather in Glossop Hall. Is that correct? If so, I'm happy to tick this one off. Paralympiakos (talk) 17:02, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
Brazilian ironclad Barroso
- ... that the Brazilian ironclad Barroso was hit 20 times on 26–28 March 1866 when she bombarded the Paraguayan fortifications at Curupaity during the War of the Triple Alliance, but not significantly damaged?
5x expanded by Sturmvogel 66 (talk). Nominated by Sturmvogel 66 (talk) at 18:15, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
Jan Błachowicz
- ... that after missing the whole of 2009 through injury, Jan Błachowicz returned at KSW XIII to defeat two opponents on the same night?
Created by Paralympiakos (talk). Self nom at 11:43, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
Dawid Baziak
- ... that Dawid Baziak began his professional mixed martial arts career with five consecutive technical knockout victories?
Or
... that Dawid Baziak defeated Maxim Grishin at KSW XII in a mixed martial arts bout that was viewed by more than six million people in Poland
Created by Paralympiakos (talk). Self nom at 11:38, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
Scottish surnames
- ... that the earliest Scottish surnames were already hereditary in England, before arriving in Scotland with Anglo-Norman settlers in the 12th century?
Created by Brianann MacAmhlaidh (talk). Self nom at 09:29, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
The Bill
- ... that Respect was the two-part series finale of British television drama series The Bill, broadcast after 26 years on air?
5x expanded by 5 albert square (talk). Nominated by Fridae'sDoom (talk) at 08:07, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
- this was 71K on Aug 21, now it's 75K. No where near a 1X expansion, much less 5X. — Rlevse • Talk • 02:08, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
- Oh, so what does it need to meet the criteria? Ғяіᴅaз'§Đøøм | Tea and biscuits? 07:26, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
- A 5X expansion in prose. since it's 75k you'd have to get it to 425K. Why did you think this was a 5K expansion? — Rlevse • Talk • 14:45, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
- I think that the nominator meant to out forward Respect (The Bill), which was created on Sep 1. GeeJo ⁄(c) • 15:40, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
- boldly revised the hook to reflect GeeJo's point. hamiltonstone (talk) 03:33, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
- I don't know, it looks like Respect (The Bill) has its own DYK a few posts up. --Esemono (talk) 03:04, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
- I think that the nominator meant to out forward Respect (The Bill), which was created on Sep 1. GeeJo ⁄(c) • 15:40, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
1996 Football League Second Division play-off Final
- ... that association football club Bradford City's first game at Wembley Stadium in their 93-year history was the 1996 Football League Second Division play-off Final?
Created by User:Brad78 (talk). Self nom at 02:36, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
- Citation for hook is off-line, accepted in good faith. Meets criteria for length, date, and no obvious issues with article. Strange Passerby (talk) 13:48, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
Final Shot: The Hank Gathers Story
- ... that the biopic film Final Shot: The Hank Gathers Story is a dramatized recreation of Hank Gathers' struggle to leave a North Philadelphia ghetto to become a basketball player for the Loyola Marymount Lions?
Created by MichaelQSchmidt (talk). Self nom at 02:19, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
List of American Basketball Association awards and honors
- ... that a total of 80 American Basketball Association (ABA) players and executives have received at least one award or honor?
Created by K. Annoyomous (talk). Self nom at 22:46, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
- I have read through the article and I have no issue with the length of the article and hook or any concern about the factual accuracy of the hook. My question is that we should probably avoid hooks that are basically in the form that "there are X entries on List Y", which could be generated for any list article nominated at DYK. There were so many great athletes who played in the ABA, and making some mention about the unique accomplishments of any one of the 80 basketball players mentioned in the article would probably make for a better hook. Alansohn (talk) 15:12, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
- I think that the suggested hook is boring.—Chris!c/t 01:36, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
- ALT1 ... that Artis Gilmore of the Kentucky Colonels has won most of the American Basketball Association awards including both the Most Valuable Player and the Rookie of the Year?—Chris!c/t 01:34, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
- ALT2 ... that Basketball Hall of Famer Julius Erving has won the most American Basketball Association awards with five Most Valuable Player awards—three in the regular season and two in the playoffs? --K.Annoyomous (talk) 22:52, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
- ALT2 is an improvement to the original but is still a pretty boring hook imo.—Chris!c/t 23:36, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
Rena Kubota
- ... that Rena Kubota has been crowned world champion at the previous two Women's Shoot Boxing Tournaments?
Created by Jfgslo (talk). Nominated by GeeJo (talk) at 22:03, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
Daniel Webster (Florida politician)
- ... that former Speaker of the Florida House of Representatives Daniel Webster (pictured) served in the Florida legislature for 28 years, making him the longest-serving legislator in Florida history?
5x expanded by Scapler (talk). Self nom at 21:37, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
- ALT 1: ... that Daniel Webster (pictured) was the first Republican Speaker of the Florida House of Representatives since Reconstruction?
- On ALT1, Reconstruction claim doesn't have a cite on it. Plus, in the lead it's claimed he took office as speaker in 1986; in the main prose it says he became speaker in 1996. Which is it? I'll suggest an ALT2: ... that Daniel Webster (pictured), the longest-serving legislator in Florida history, was only opposed in three elections during his 28-year career? Strange Passerby (talk) 13:44, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
- The Reconstruction claim is cited now, and the 1986 date was merely a typo, thank you for catching it. That all being said, I like your alt suggestion; feel free to run with that. かんぱい! Scapler (talk) 14:48, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
First Māori elections, 4th New Zealand Parliament
- ... that Māori men achieved universal suffrage in the First Māori elections, midway through the term of the 4th New Zealand Parliament in 1868, twelve years before the European colonists (Māori MP pictured)?
- Comment: Both articles were created in userspace and were moved to mainspace on 1 September.
Created by Schwede66 (talk). Self nom at 19:34, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
Edward Mead Johnson, Mead Johnson
- ... that in 1905 Edward Mead Johnson established Mead Johnson, maker of Enfamil and other nutrition products, after leaving the Johnson & Johnson firm that he had co-founded with his brothers in 1886?
5x expanded by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 19:03, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
Franklin Brito
- ... that Venezuelan farmer Franklin Brito died after a hunger strike in protest of government takeover of his farm 7 years ago?
Created by Piotrus (talk). Nominated by Piotrus (talk) at 17:20, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
- Update: please also credit User:Rd232, who is helping to further expand this article. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 18:36, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
The facts in this case are so in dispute that I'm not sure an WP:NPOV hook can be drafted. (For example the proposal above doesn't convey the government's position that there was no such takeover, because the disputed titles applied to land that wasn't Brito's.) It's also already included in ITN's "recent deaths". If we must have it, though, we might as well correct a substantial flaw in much of the Western media coverage, which is the impression that Brito lost his entire farm, and have some kind of hook which clarifies the dispute was over part of his farm. Rd232 19:57, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
- The sources are unclear; it doesn't mean that the position that he lost the entire farm wrong (I find it rather strange that one would go to such extremes for losing only part of the farm). I also think that the above hook is neutral, but I propse an even more neutral alternative below.--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 18:22, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
- ... that Venezuelan farmer Franklin Brito died after several years of hunger strike he begun in protest of what he saw as the government takeover of his farm?
- I'm not comfortable with the factual accuracy or neutrality of that hook either. For instance, there were a series of hunger strikes, not one massive long one, and without clarifying the details the reader is left wondering how it could in fact not have been a govt takeover if he saw it like that. And your implication above that he must have lost the whole of the farm because why else would you go to such lengths is speculative. The issues are too complex for a hook, I think, as well as still somewhat murky, and it remains true that Brito was featured in ITN's Recent Deaths. WP:DYK says "Articles that have appeared on the main page's In the News section are not eligible."; I'm not sure whether this is therefore disqualified or not. At any rate it makes its inclusion as a DYK less important. Rd232 15:59, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
Aziz Çami
- ... that in 1931 Aziz Çami tried to assassinate Zog of Albania when the king was exiting the Vienna State Opera?
Created by ZjarriRrethues (talk). Nominated by Sulmues (talk) at 16:16, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
- Date, length and ref verified. You guys had a badass king there, pulling out a gun and returning fire! :) Todor→Bozhinov 17:58, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
- Very badass! I think this fact deserves to be highlighted! I'd like to suggest an alternative hook:
- ALT1 ... that when Aziz Çami tried to assassinate Zog of Albania in the Vienna State Opera house in 1931, the king pulled out his own pistol and returned fire? -- L'ecrivant (talk) 22:38, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
- The alternative hook sounds better so if Sulmues and Todor agree too, this hook should be used.--— ZjarriRrethues — 22:57, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
- ALT1 is a more appealing hook, however it is controversial, as it seems to be a legend, not confirmed by the other killer, Ndok Gjeloshi. I'd rather have a hook that is confirmed by all parties, because it's going to stay forever in the talk page of the article, and I really believe in this essay, so I stand by the original hook as approved by TodorBozhinov.--Sulmues 14:22, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
- Is it indeed a legend? It is properly referenced with what seems to be a very reliable, recent, third-party source. From a Misplaced Pages point of view, I have no reason not to approve ALT1, and based on current references in the article, I do verify it. ZjarriRrethues and Sulmues, you guys should decide between yourselves which hook should be used and just specifically write down below your preference for the DYK guys to know. Todor→Bozhinov 14:00, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
St John the Evangelist's Church, Leeds
- ... that the Jacobean fittings (screen pictured) in St John the Evangelist's Church, Leeds, West Yorkshire have been described as the glory of the church?
Created by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 14:50, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
- Length, style and refs Ok. Shadygrove2007 (talk) 10:06, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
value-added modeling
- ... that value-added modeling rates teacher performance by comparing prior and current year student test scores and can be used to award bonuses to top performers and fire those with the lowest ratings?
Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 14:37, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
Perhaps ALT 1:that value-added modelling rates teacher performance by comparing prior and current year student test scores?
Plus "modeling" is spelled wrong.Thelmadatter (talk) 15:54, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
- The article discusses its use for teacher retention and the main source says "Though the value-added method is often used to help educators improve their classroom teaching, it has also been a factor in deciding who receives bonuses, how much they are and even who gets fired." The article will be moved to reflect the correct spelling. Alansohn (talk) 17:14, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
Escape of the Provisional Revolutionary Government
- ... that during the Vietnam War the South Vietnamese Army came close to "annihilating or capturing" the Vietcong leadership but was prevented from doing so by General Hoàng Văn Thái and his successful plan for the escape of the Provisional Revolutionary Government?
5x expanded and new article by Esemono (talk). Self nom at 12:48, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
- Double post -- Esemono (talk) 13:08, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
East River Road Historic District
- ... that the Gothic Revival "Wedding Cake House" (pictured) in Grosse Ile's East River Road Historic District was built over 150 years ago and has never been remodeled?
Created by Andrew Jameson (talk). Nominated by Andrew Jameson (talk) at 10:43, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
- For convenience, direct link to cite: Grosse Ile Historical Society (2007), Grosse Ile, Arcadia Publishing, p. 82-83, ISBN 0738550507 Andrew Jameson (talk) 10:50, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
Aktio-Preveza Undersea Tunnel
- ... that the Aktio-Preveza Undersea Tunnel is the first and so far only undersea tunnel in Greece?
Created by Athenean (talk). Nominated by Athenean (talk) at 07:52, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
Labia minor
- ... that Labia minor is chocolate-brown and up to 7 mm long, including the pincer?
- Comment: For once, it's nice to be able to benefit from the confusion this animal's name provides!
Created by Stemonitis (talk). Self nom at 07:03, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
- Haha, I think the hook can be improved though:
- ALT1 ... that Labia minor are chocolate-brown, up to 7 mm long, and equipped with pincers? Smartse (talk) 10:39, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
- Comment possible April Fool's Day DYK. Mjroots (talk) 10:54, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
- Brilliant. Both hooks are approved - love the suggestive, but not so suggestive picture. Clamshell Deathtrap (talk) 11:00, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
- In the alt hook, I've replaced "have" with "equipped with"; see parallelism (grammar). Nyttend (talk) 21:38, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
- Fantastic! :) Is this an example of labia dentata? -- L'ecrivant (talk) 22:41, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
- I don't think it is inaccurate to use "have" instead of "equipped with" and it makes the hook a lot more interesting. I'd suggest changing it back Smartse (talk) 15:57, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
- Inaccurate, no. Ungrammatical, yes. Proper parallelism requires that the bits between commas be easily rearrangeable; it's fine to say "Labia minor are...equipped with pincers", but not fine to say "Labia minor are...have pincers". Nyttend (talk) 22:18, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
- This would could go great in the April Fool's Day DYK. :) —CodeHydro 18:01, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
- Inaccurate, no. Ungrammatical, yes. Proper parallelism requires that the bits between commas be easily rearrangeable; it's fine to say "Labia minor are...equipped with pincers", but not fine to say "Labia minor are...have pincers". Nyttend (talk) 22:18, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
- In the alt hook, I've replaced "have" with "equipped with"; see parallelism (grammar). Nyttend (talk) 21:38, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
- Brilliant. Both hooks are approved - love the suggestive, but not so suggestive picture. Clamshell Deathtrap (talk) 11:00, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on August 31
Lucas Duda
- ... that Lucas Duda was pulled from his professional baseball debut in the eighth inning due to hamstring cramps, which he thought were the result of dehydration brought on by his flight to the game?
Created by Yankees10 (talk), Brewcrewer (talk). Nominated by Brewcrewer (talk) at 01:59, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
- Alt: ... that Lucas Duda faced Tommy Hanson in his professional baseball debut, whom he previously played against in high school?--brewcrewer (yada, yada) 02:01, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
- Minor league baseball is professional baseball so shouldn't the hook be reworded "...in his Major League Baseball debut..."? --Brian Halvorsen (talk) 20:14, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
- fine, I'll rephrase both hooks below:
- ... that Lucas Duda was pulled from his Major League Baseball debut in the eighth inning due to hamstring cramps, which he thought were the result of dehydration brought on by his flight to the game?
>Created by Yankees10 (talk), Brewcrewer (talk). Nominated by--brewcrewer (yada, yada) 01:44, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
- Alt: ... that Lucas Duda faced Tommy Hanson in his Major League Baseball debut, whom he previously played against in high school?--brewcrewer (yada, yada) 01:44, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
- Both hooks check out. I like the alt hook better, but that's just my opinion. Very good job. --Brian Halvorsen (talk) 03:45, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
Domenico Annibali
- ... that the Italian castrato Domenico Annibali (pictured) made a sensational debut at the Royal Opera House in London in the title role of Handel's opera Poro?
Created by 4meter4 (talk). Nominated by Gerda Arendt (talk) at 22:04, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
Children of the Stars
- ... that Children of the Stars is a documentary about the Beijing Stars and Rain School, the first non-governmental educational organization in China dedicated to serving children with autism, which was founded in 1993?
- Comment: Image requested from director/producer. Awaiting reply.
Created by Ling.Nut (talk). Self nom at 07:14, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
- It occurs to me that this may be a bit better:"... that Children of the Stars is a documentary about the Beijing Stars and Rain School, founded in 1993 as the first non-governmental educational organization in China dedicated to serving children with autism?" • Ling.Nut 07:39, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
- The first paragraph needs a citation.Thelmadatter (talk) 16:51, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
Abaz Kupi
- ... that the antifascist and freedom fighter Abaz Kupi was the founder of the Legality Movement, which aimed to return Zog of Albania back to his throne?
Created by Aigest (talk). Nominated by Sulmues (talk) at 15:08, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
Podgorica–Shkodër railway
- ... that the Podgorica–Shkodër railway, built in 1985, was the first international railway of Albania?
Created by Your Über Monkey (talk). Nominated by Sulmues (talk) at 13:33, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
Bajzë Rail Station
- ... that the Bajzë Rail Station was completely cleaned up in 2003 from toxic chemicals dumped in 1991-92?
Created by Your Über Monkey (talk). Nominated by Sulmues (talk) at 13:25, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
- The article states that the cleanup was finished in 2009, not 2003. That fact is also not cited.4meter4 (talk) 15:39, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
USCGC Point Arden (WPB-82309)
- ... that the USCGC Point Arden, an 82-foot USCG Point class cutter originally designated as WPB-82301, later acquired the name Point Caution when the Coast Guard started naming all cutters longer than 65 feet?
Created by Cuprum17 (talk). Nominated by MC10 (talk) at 01:47, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
- Date and length verified. Offline refs and hook verification assumed in good faith.4meter4 (talk) 15:43, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
Leymah Gbowee
- ... that Leymah Gbowee organized a peace movement that ended the Second Liberian Civil War and led to the election of Ellen Johnson Sirleaf, the first female president in Africa?
5x expanded by USchick (talk). Self nom at 00:40, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
George Alexander Parks
- ... that George Alexander Parks (pictured) was appointed Governor of Alaska Territory after an impressive stint as a tour guide?
5x expanded by Allen3 (talk). Self nom at 22:50, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
- Comment: An example of what can happen after your boss assigns you to escort a group of dignitaries. --Allen3 22:51, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
Ancient Church Orders
- ... that Ancient Church Orders is a genre of early Christian literature which has the aim to offer authoritative prescriptions on matters of moral conduct, liturgy and church organization?
Created by A ntv (talk). Self nom at 21:44, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
St Michael's Church, Cowthorpe
- ... that the tower of St Michael's Church, Cowthorpe, North Yorkshire, (pictured) has been described as "more like a castle fortification than a religious symbol" and its arch as "more suited to a cathedral than a small country church"?
Created by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 19:26, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
- - ready. Dincher (talk) 01:22, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
- Uh, 232 characters, way too long. — Rlevse • Talk • 01:33, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
- OK reduce to :
- ALT1... that the tower of St Michael's Church, Cowthorpe, North Yorkshire, (pictured) has been described as "more like a castle fortification than a religious symbol"?--Peter I. Vardy (talk) 08:04, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
Qemal Butka
- ... that architect Qemal Butka was actively a postage stamp engraver while being the mayor of Tirana?
Created by Aigest (talk). Nominated by Sulmues (talk) at 16:41, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
- The source cited says he created the 25th anniversary stamps in 1937, the year after he was mayor. Am I missing something?4meter4 (talk) 15:49, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
1689 Boston revolt
- ... that the 1689 Boston revolt resulted in the dissolution of the Dominion of New England?
- ALT1:... that Puritan Bostonians overthrew their governor, loyal to the Catholic James II of England during the 1689 Boston revolt?
Created by DCI2026 (talk). Self nom at 04:19, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
- The last line of the article, which supports that the Dominion of New England was dissolved, is not cited. ALT 1 is OK. Thelmadatter (talk) 16:03, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
- I added a source from "Chronicles of America" that supports the dissolution line. Thanks for letting me know. DCI2026 (talk) 01:07, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
- Is the article good to go and, if so, what hook are we going to use?DCI2026 (talk) 00:42, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
George V. Chalmers
- that quarterback George "Shorty" Chalmers (pictured) was considered a triple threat man, and alongside Boze Berger, "one of the most dangerous pass–catch combinations in Maryland history"?
Created/expanded by Strikehold (talk). Nominated by Strikehold (talk) at 03:30, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
- Verified. Offline/purchase required references AGF. --NortyNort (Holla) 12:58, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
Ghiyasu'd-Din Naqqah
- ... that both a Persian envoy to the Ming China of ca. 1420 and his Chinese opposite number left important historical records about their journeys?
Created by Vmenkov (talk). Nominated by Vmenkov (talk) at 01:42, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
- Comment: I have no idea whether Ghiyasu'd-Din Naqqah's hometown was within the borders of today's Iran (rather than say, Afghanistan or Uzbekistan), but Shakh Rukh's embassy is described by Anglo-American academics (e.g., Timothy Brook) as "Persian". Contribution from anyone with the knowledge of the language and access to the primary source would be appreciated, at least for spelling the person's name in the original script! -- Vmenkov (talk) 01:42, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on August 30
Ada Adini
- ... that soprano Ada Adini, a singer of Verdi's Gilda and Leonora, appeared as Brünnhilde in the Italian premiere of Wagner's Die Walküre at La Scala in 1893?
Created by 4meter4 (talk). Nominated by Gerda Arendt (talk) at 14:16, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
- Style, length and most refs OK. But there is a dead link on footnote 2. Shadygrove2007 (talk) 10:10, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
- The link is correct. Operissimo.com is currently undergoing maintenance and the whole site is down momentarily. It should be back up soon; hopefully later today. Of course you could always pass it AGF.4meter4 (talk) 10:43, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
Isaac and Miria
- ... that Isaac Dian and Miria Harvent, characters of the Baccano! light novel and anime series, try to "steal time" by taking watches and attempt to bar entry by taking an entrance?
- ALT1:... that Isaac Dian and Miria Harvent, characters of the Baccano! light novel and anime series, forget to buy their friend a present and give a little boy as a gift instead?
Created by Itzjustdrama (talk). Self nom at 14:45, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
- Neither suggestion here has any real-world context. Simply stating that they're characters in a novel is not enough. DS (talk) 14:05, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
- I didn't know that could be a problem. How about *ALT 2: ... that Isaac Dian and Miria Harvent are characters of the Baccano! light novels and anime, set in the Prohibition-era United States, but also appear in the Durarara!! anime, set in modern Tokyo? 'Course, I don't know if that's very interesting ~Itzjustdrama 14:22, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
- That's actually better, yes. DS (talk) 23:04, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
- No tick mark for alt two? ;P ~Itzjustdrama does not equal a Drama Llama 16:38, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
- The hook is better, but there is no mention of the Prohibition-era United States in the nominated article. It is in the Baccano! article, but we need it in the Isaac and Miria article with a citation to pass it for DYK. The modern day Tokyo for Baccano! is in the article with a good citation.4meter4 (talk) 12:09, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
- No tick mark for alt two? ;P ~Itzjustdrama does not equal a Drama Llama 16:38, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on August 29
K2K experiment
- ... that the K2K experiment was the first neutrino experiment to directly measure neutrino oscillations using a fully-controlled source of neutrinos (as opposed to cosmic sources)?
Created by Strait (talk) and expanded by Headbomb (talk). Nominated by Headbomb (talk) at 10:52, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
- I can't find the hook fact in the article cited. Am I missing something?4meter4 (talk) 09:53, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
- Third and fourth sentence of the lead "This was the first positive measurement of neutrino oscillations in which both the source and detector were fully under experimenters' control. Previous experiments relied on neutrinos from the Sun or cosmic rays." Headbomb {talk / contribs / physics / books} 17:04, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
- You misunderstood. (probably because I wasn't clear enough) I didn't mean within the wikipedia article. I meant the online reference supporting the fact.4meter4 (talk) 17:24, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
- Second sentence, "For the first time, synthetic neutrinos made in a physics laboratory are seen to disappear." Headbomb {talk / contribs / physics / books} 17:40, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
- Yes I read that, but the sentence's ambiguity doesn't seem to verify the hook. It doesn't neccessarily indicate that this was the first use of synthetic neutrinos. It indicates that this was the first time that synthetic neutrinos were "seen to disappear". This is a technical hook that isn't easily verifiable by a lay person like myself from the article cited. Perhaps someone who has a strong science background wouldn't mind taking over this review? 4meter4 (talk) 10:56, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
- Yes it does, as disappearance = oscillations. Grossly simplifying the situation, the experience took a beam of muon neutrinos and checked how many there were at two points in the path. Let's say there were 100 muon neutrinos at the first detector. If there are no oscillations, you would expect to see 100 muon neutrinos at the second detector. But the experiment found less, i.e. some muon neutrinos "disappeared". In reality, muons neutrinos didn't "disappear", they changed (oscillated) into other flavours of neutrinos (mostly tauon neutrinos, to which the experiment was insensitive). Headbomb {talk / contribs / physics / books} 15:52, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
- Yes I read that, but the sentence's ambiguity doesn't seem to verify the hook. It doesn't neccessarily indicate that this was the first use of synthetic neutrinos. It indicates that this was the first time that synthetic neutrinos were "seen to disappear". This is a technical hook that isn't easily verifiable by a lay person like myself from the article cited. Perhaps someone who has a strong science background wouldn't mind taking over this review? 4meter4 (talk) 10:56, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
- Second sentence, "For the first time, synthetic neutrinos made in a physics laboratory are seen to disappear." Headbomb {talk / contribs / physics / books} 17:40, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
- You misunderstood. (probably because I wasn't clear enough) I didn't mean within the wikipedia article. I meant the online reference supporting the fact.4meter4 (talk) 17:24, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
Your Coffee Cups
- ... that Your Coffee Cups is the second sexually-themed coffee house to open in the San Francisco Bay Area of the US state of California?
Created by QwerpQwertus (talk). Nominated by QwerpQwertus (talk) at 02:37, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
- :*Note: If you comment or leave a tick, I'd appreciate it if you'd leave me a note since I can't access this page. Thanks! ℳono 02:37, 3 September 2010 (UTC) on behalf of QwerpQwertus (talk · contribs)
- article is only 1350 of readable prose, it needs to be 1500 minimum. Periods go before refs, not after. Refs should be in numerical order. Some words are jammed together. Lead should summarize the article, not be one sentence. — Rlevse • Talk • 02:06, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
- Over 1500, fix the periods, refs in order and expanded the intro. -- Esemono (talk) 05:18, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
- I couldn't find the hook fact in any of the online refs cited at the end of the hook sentence.4meter4 (talk) 10:02, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
- ALT1 ... that at Your Coffee Cups coffee shop the bikini clad baristas can earn in their four hour shift more than US$50 in tips?
- Date, length, refs, and hook verified. However, this article is an orphan.4meter4 (talk) 12:47, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
- That alt hook does sound better, and I'll try to de-orphan it. ~ QwerpQwertus Talk ツ 22:40, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
- Is not being an orphan a DYK rule? -- Esemono (talk) 23:32, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
- An unwritten rule, yes. We don't promote articles to the main page that are tagged for any reason (i.e. orphan, one source, ref improve, NPOV, etc.) If an article gets tagged while on the main page, we would have to emergency remove it, which is a pain. So, checking to see that an article is not an orphan is pretty much standard procedure. I've seen multiple articles get declined for being orphans in the past; including one of my own.4meter4 (talk) 09:52, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
- Regarding the ref for the hook, for this somewhat non-neutral claim; I'm not convinced that allvoices.com/contributed-news is an appropriate reliable source, because it looks like user-generated content. Opinions are most welcome. Chzz ► 12:41, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
- But the fourth ref () says that they "make an average of $50 in tips per four-hour shift". ~ QwerpQwertus Talk ツ 01:19, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
- It's deorphaned now, and I'll keep looking for anywhere else that it might be relevant. ~ QwerpQwertus Talk ツ 01:24, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
- It's still an orphan. A minimum of 3 incoming links are required for an article to not be an orphan. See WP:Orphan.4meter4 (talk) 11:02, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
Promise Neighborhoods
- ... that the Promise Neighborhoods program has recieved 339 applications for $10 million in federal planning grants?
Created by SteveChervitzTrutane (talk). Nominated by Secret Saturdays (talk) at 03:22, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
- What currency? What country? What era? And, I before E except after C. --174.89.156.104 (talk) 05:46, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
- Also by what applicants? Lack of details make this hook vague and boring.4meter4 (talk) 10:10, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
- ALT1 that the United States Department of Education program Promise Neighborhoods program has recieved 339 applications for $US10 million in federal planning grants?
- 339 applicants is hardly interesting; particularly when we don't even know what kind of applicants they are (who is applying? individuals, organizations, etc.) and what the grant program is for exactly. There must be a better hook than this.4meter4 (talk) 11:18, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
Mimi Lo
- ... that cantopop singer Mimi Lo stated that her husband Power Chan only knew her as an actress when they first met?
Created by Music + Pageants (talk). Nominated by Secret Saturdays (talk) at 03:22, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
- Please put some text in about her career as an actress, or we'll all only know her as a singer. --174.89.156.104 (talk) 05:50, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
Special occasion holding area
- Note: Articles nominated for a special occasion should be nominated within five days of creation or expansion as usual (with the exception of April Fools' Day 2011 - see Misplaced Pages:April Fool's Main Page/Did You Know). Also, articles should be nominated at least five days before the occasion to give reviewers time to check the nomination.
For September 12, 15th Sunday after Trinity
Warum betrübst du dich, mein Herz, BWV 138
- ... that Bach's cantata for the 15th Sunday after Trinity 1723, Warum betrübst du dich, mein Herz, BWV 138, was criticized by Philipp Spitta and Albert Schweitzer?
Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self nom at 12:32, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
- Date and length verified. Offline refs and hook verification assumed in good faith.4meter4 (talk) 14:02, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
For September 13, 14:00 GMT (13:00 UTC), see comment text
Polytechnic of Namibia
- ... that the main campus of the Polytechnic of Namibia includes Elisabeth House (pictured), Windhoek's former obstetric hospital?
5x expanded by Pgallert (talk). Self nom at 08:30, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
- Comment: Okay, here I will request quite an amount of good faith into me: The creator, almost all contributors, and I are affiliated to this institution, either as employees or as students. However, nobody else seems to want to write about it, so here I submit despite a crystal-clear COI. --Pgallert (talk) 08:30, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
- And a Question: On September 13, 14:00 GMT I will present a lecture on Misplaced Pages at the Auditorium Maximum of Polytechnic of Namibia. It would of course be a nice publicity stunt to have the institution mentioned on the main page at that particular day and time. Does Misplaced Pages support something like this? I would believe it is a win-win situation. --Pgallert (talk) 08:30, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
- 5x expansion, date, length and hook verified. I fixed some grammar in the hook and bolded the article name. I see nothing wrong with you being an employee of the Polytechnic, the article is certainly not biased in any way. Todor→Bozhinov 09:04, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
- Nobody objected to the special timing suggestion so far, so I have moved it to the Special Holding Area. --Pgallert (talk) 13:43, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
- (tongue in cheek) - do tell your students that each of them has to write a DYK on their hometown and the Namibian institution has to be an FA in four languages in return for this ginormous favour. Oh and good luck with the lecture. Victuallers (talk) 14:47, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
- :) Thanks, will do. Actually the will write something, see here, and I promised a 100% assignment mark should their contribution make it to DYK. Namibia an FA, that would be something... I'm willing to accept any help. --Pgallert (talk) 15:08, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
- I agree it is win-win and we should help (any others?). I have updated all school articles (not too many) in Winhoek where your poly is Victuallers (talk) 16:59, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
For October 1
Wait for me, Daddy
- ... that while Pte. Jack Bernard was marching with his regiment, 70 years ago on October 1, 1940, little "Whitey” Bernard was photographed running after his father?
new by Esemono (talk). Self nom at 08:30, 05 September 2010 (UTC)
- Sourced to this newspaperarticle -- Esemono (talk) 05:56, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
- ALT1 - ... that 70 years ago on October 1, 1940 little "Whitey” Bernard was photographed running after his father who was marching to war?
and Canadian picture is OK too. Victuallers (talk) 15:54, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
For 31 October, Hallowe'en
- The 2010 Halloween collection has started early. Victuallers (talk) 20:03, 25 August 2010 (UTC)Victuallers (talk) 21:19, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
Bhoot (ghost)
- ... that in various regions in India, a haunting bhoot can be thwarted using water, steel or iron objects, or the scent of burnt turmeric?
Created by Hunnjazal (talk). Nominated by PFHLai (talk) at 22:30, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
- Could you please add page numbers to the two citations in question? If so, I think this hook will be good to go. (As it currently stands, a reader would have to search through the books in question to find the pages which cite the information about water, steel, iron, and turmeric.) - Tim1965 (talk) 14:42, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
Margaret Jones (Puritan midwife)
- ... that Margaret Jones was the first person in Boston to be executed for witchcraft in a New England witch hunt that lasted between 1648 and 1663?
Created by --Ishtar456 (talk) 02:33, 4 September 2010 (UTC))
- Article OK, hook OK, offline cites AGF. Ready to go! - Tim1965 (talk) 14:19, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
Little People of the Pryor Mountains
- ... that according to the folklore of the Crow Nation, the Little People of the Pryor Mountains were dwarves so violent and fearsome they could tear the heart out of an enemy's horse?
Created by Tim1965 (talk). Self nom at 02:16, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
October the 31st (The Fall Guy episode)
- ... that Cassandra Peterson, AKA Elvira, Mistress of the Dark (pictured), and veteran horror movie actor, John Carradine guest starred on the 1984 Halloween episode of The Fall Guy, October the 31st along with Keith, Robert and David Carradine?
Created by --Ishtar456 (talk) 22:34, 1 September 2010 (UTC))
- .(alt)..
that in 1984, The Fall Guy episode October the 31st featured Keith, Robert, David and John Carradine, as well as John's evil twin brother? Victuallers (talk) 16:16, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
- .(alt)..
- I fixed it up a bit. We don't really want to leave out Keith. But that fact (twin brother) is not cited (in a synopsis you aren't supposed to need it, but for DYK you do). In all fairness, Elvira and John were the guest stars and the other Carradines just had cameos. Are you sure we want to leave Elvira out? Isn't she all about Halloween?--Ishtar456 (talk) 02:43, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
- I agree lack of source kills it and Elvira is better - maybe replace eveil twin with Elvira? Victuallers (talk) 09:21, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
- Alt 1... that the 1984 Halloween episode of The Fall Guy, October the 31st guest starred Elvira, Mistress of the Dark (pictured), and veteran horror movie actor, John Carradine along with Keith, Robert and David Carradine?
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- Alt 2... that Elvira, Mistress of the Dark (pictured) guest starred on the 1984 Halloween episode of The Fall Guy, October the 31st and veteran horror movie actor, John Carradine appeared too, with sons Keith, Robert and David?
- Alt 3... that John Carradine haunted Elvira's (pictured) guest appearence on the 1984 Halloween episode of The Fall Guy, October the 31st and fired all three of his actor sons? -my fav.--Ishtar456 (talk) 12:04, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
Ipswich Witchcraft Trial
- ... that the Ipswich Witchcraft Trial has been called the "Second Salem Witch Trial", and may be the last witch trial held in the United States?
Created by Tim1965 (talk). Self nom at 23:17, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
- "May have been the last witch trial", rather. We don't know what will happen in the future -- people do make ridiculous assertions still, and occasionally judges humor them (witness the case of the woman who got a restraining order against David Letterman so that he would stop psychically harassing her). DS (talk) 13:11, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
- That's true of 99 percent of DYK noms which use the term "largest," "most expensive," "tallest," "record," etc. On the other hand, we can't predict the future, so "may have been" is not accurate, either. It's why I chose "has been called"; that is an accurate statement, although it may not hold true in the future. - Tim1965 (talk) 12:55, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
- Got to agree with Tim.. surely the average reader is clever enough to realise that, say, the world's tallest man ......... means the man who when measured to the top of his head when standing with bare feet and without a spine extender is the tallest although there may be other men taller who have not measured them selves or been found and it is possible that in the future other men could grow taller or by using gentic modification it may be possible ... etc etc We must assume that sentient people know that new things happen in the future. rant over Victuallers (talk) 09:55, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha.--Ishtar456 (talk) 01:18, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
Veratrum nigrum
- ... that it is not true that the Black False Hellebore is a Hellebore, it is true that it is highly toxic and can easily cause death?
5x expanded by Tim1965 (talk). Nominated by Tim1965 (talk) at 18:46, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
- The hook seems a bit obvious to me - surely the reason it is called a false hellebore is because it isn't a hellebore? Smartse (talk) 20:26, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
- The point is to create a play on words with the title of the plant. It is not a true Hellbore; it is true it can kill you. When it comes to plants, most people probably don't know what the term "false" means (I didn't). So verifying that "false means false" is not just a play on words, it is informative as well (confirming a person's assumptions). - Tim1965 (talk) 03:38, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
- Nah, I'm with Smartse, this hook is just not working for me. And I don't really see the Halloween connection either, unless anything that could kill you is now eligible for Halloween. I don't think we're going to be short. I suggest this goes back to "regular" DYK, and you come up with another hook? Sorry. PS Tim - "Hellebore" is an English word, not a Latin word like Helleborus, so "hellebore" should not be italicised, in DYK or in the article. Le Deluge (talk) 19:13, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
- Hellebore is the genus, and genus and species are italized. - Tim1965 (talk) 23:14, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
- Grammar point: there should either be a "while" after the first "that", or there should be a "but" before "it is true", or the comma before "it is true" should be a semi-colon. Nikkimaria (talk) 16:12, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
Ferocactus latispinus
- ... that the Devil's tongue barrel (pictured) is found in Mexico?
- Comment: I know, a bit lame but has a cool name...Casliber (talk · contribs) 14:42, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
Created by Casliber (talk). Nominated by Casliber (talk) at 14:42, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
- How about: ALT1 ... that the Devil's tongue barrel (pictured) is covered in 4cm long spines?
- It sounds scarier to me. We could maybe make something out of this but saying that it can be killed by Fusarium oxysporum doesn't sound very scary. Another option is to make a stub for Didymium wildpretii using this and then we could have a hook of ALT2 ... that Didymium wildpretii eats the decaying remains of Devil's tongue barrel (pictured)? Smartse (talk) 12:00, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
- Not the easiest material to work with. For hook purposes (eg ALT2) it is probably best called a "barrel of devil's tongues"? A bit of creative Googling came up with PAR 279 of this ref which would allow an example of a site in which it grows in the wild and hence (stretching a bit) :
- ALT3... that Jesus had a barrel of Devil's tongues (pictured)?
- That same ref has a bunch of saints which could be translated into English, and MZ 1239 leaves the tilde off La Cañada... Alternatively you could use the hardiness data to suggest that :
- ALT4... that a barrel of Devil's tongues (pictured) would survive if hell freezes over?
- The Fusarium is tricky, you'd end up playing with "mouldy bottoms" or "butt rot". One little thing, the image relies on recurvus being a synonym for latispinus. I don't doubt that it is, but it probably ought to be reffed - and in any case, it's a bit too obvious an image to accompany a hook that we're struggling to get tricksy with... Le Deluge (talk) 14:23, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
- The book ref lists recurvus as a synonym. The other hooks are more interesting than mine, and yeah I reckon losing the picture will probably help. Casliber (talk · contribs) 14:31, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
- I will propose the following. I don't know if playing with the name of the plant is acceptable to anyone else. But I would hope so, given that the fifth proposed hook does mention the word "barrel". The way I read the plant name, "barrel" is like saying "the John Smith house" or "the Evergreen Pine tree." You don't necessarily need it (well, I'm making that case). - Tim1965 (talk) 13:24, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
- ALT5: that the Devil's tongue (pictured) is barrel-shaped, green, and covered in 4-centimetre (1.6 in) long spines? - Tim1965 (talk) 13:24, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
- I will propose the following. I don't know if playing with the name of the plant is acceptable to anyone else. But I would hope so, given that the fifth proposed hook does mention the word "barrel". The way I read the plant name, "barrel" is like saying "the John Smith house" or "the Evergreen Pine tree." You don't necessarily need it (well, I'm making that case). - Tim1965 (talk) 13:24, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
- The book ref lists recurvus as a synonym. The other hooks are more interesting than mine, and yeah I reckon losing the picture will probably help. Casliber (talk · contribs) 14:31, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
- Not the easiest material to work with. For hook purposes (eg ALT2) it is probably best called a "barrel of devil's tongues"? A bit of creative Googling came up with PAR 279 of this ref which would allow an example of a site in which it grows in the wild and hence (stretching a bit) :
- So let's recap: ALT1 would pass DYK rules/guidelines. ALT2 would not due to redlinks in the hook. ALT3 would not, because the ref is not in the article as it currently stands. ALT4 is iffy: As a metaphor (hell freezes over = never), it means it will never die (not factually true). As a play on words (hell freezes over = temp below 0C), it's iffy because the plant is hardy only to -4C and can, in fact, die (min temp is 10C). I will not pass judgment on my own suggested hook. So right now, barring changes, we don't have a passing nom except for ALT1. - Tim1965 (talk) 13:24, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
For November 13, Governors Awards
Governors Awards
- ...that Kevin Brownlow, Jean-Luc Godard, Eli Wallach and Francis Ford Coppola will be honoured at the 2nd Annual Governors Awards?
Created by Gareth E Kegg (talk). Self nom at 22:31, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
For January 1, 2011, Seal of the Federal Bureau of Investigation
- ALT1 ... that the Seal of the Federal Bureau of Investigation represents the courage, valour, strength, cleanliness, truth, high moral standards and high level of motivation expected of FBI agents?
- ALT2 ... that the Seal of the Federal Bureau of Investigation was first used on January 1, 1941 and represents the values, standards and history of the FBI and its agents?
Expanded and self-nominated by ChrisO (talk) 20:50, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
This nomination is a bit of a special case. I originally nominated Seal of the Federal Bureau of Investigation on August 3 following a 5x expansion (see discussion above under #Articles created/expanded on August 3). Everyone accepted that it met the DYK criteria but the nomination was derailed by a political dispute over timing. I've put forward a compromise at User talk:Jimbo Wales#Compromise proposal, which involves passing this DYK now but scheduling its appearance on January 1, 2011, which is 60 years to the day since the seal was first used. This proposal has been generally welcomed so I'm putting it forward here for formal consideration. I'm aware that the timeframe is somewhat longer than would be usual for scheduled DYKs, but in the circumstances I think a some flexibility would be justified. I've put forward two possible hooks: the original one as proposed earlier, and a new alternative tying the DYK in more directly with the date. -- ChrisO (talk) 20:50, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
- Interesting compromise. It completely flipped my opinion of the matter. However, prior to providing said opinion, I'd like some clarification:
Are we nominating this (with whichever hook) sans image as you initially suggested on Jimbo's talk page?
--K10wnsta (talk) 00:39, 14 August 2010 (UTC) - Appended: I see that you removed the image from inclusion in the original nomination, so I'll assume this post-dated nomination would not include the image either. However, this necessitates further clarification:
- Are we excluding the image from this DYK solely because of the recent interaction with the FBI?
--K10wnsta (talk) 01:05, 14 August 2010 (UTC)- In effect yes, but in my view it's a necessary evil if we're to reach a satisfactory compromise on this issue. -- ChrisO (talk) 01:16, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
- - Tentative Even if the motivation behind qualifying this article for DYK was questionable, I think you already achieved not just a satisfactory compromise, but a completely valid and justifiable use for it. In fact, it's use is so valid, refusing to use the image for no other reason than the recent hoobajoo with the FBI is blatantly (chilled) censorship...and I just can't get behind that. If we're going to censor it, we need to go whole hog or don't go at all.
Could we put it up for 'On This Day' to avoid reasoning for exclusion of the image?
--K10wnsta (talk) 01:51, 14 August 2010 (UTC) - No opinion on whether to feature on the future date; however, it would be better if this hook didn't remain on the suggestions page for the intervening months, as it is bound to attract further discussion and the page is unwieldy enough as it is. Espresso Addict (talk) 01:55, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
- Espresso's suggestion may be useful for more than just making this page leaner. A delay in nomination would lend to better perspective for those establishing consensus. In other words, removing it from discussion for a couple months would also put some time between recent events and the article (and hopefully image) being contemplated for a main page feature (unless such a delay would disqualify it from use in DYK section).
--K10wnsta (talk) 02:12, 14 August 2010 (UTC)- Comment This hook should not "disappear" for a few months. It is far better to leave it here to enable a wide input from editors on the issue. I think this is a good compromise that involves common sense, the proposal and special treatment of the timescale fitting nicely under WP:IAR. Mjroots (talk) 13:53, 15 August 2010 (UTC)
- Support ALT2 for use on 1 January, 2011. EdChem (talk) 10:32, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
- Suggest scrapping this troublesome controversial DYK, the user that instigated the issue has also since retired, suggest retiring this idea as well. Off2riorob (talk) 13:17, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
- Would you please stop with your blatant pushing of the issue? Putting this off until January removes all controversy related to it. Silverseren 13:44, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
- Your comment is just a simple personal attack, I have bigger fish to relentlessly pursue than this worthless disruptive DYK. Off2riorob (talk) 14:11, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
- Nothing of what I said was or is a personal attack. I know you greatly dislike ChrisO and myself, but could you please not try and push an already outdated issue? Silverseren 14:42, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
- I support ALT2 for the 1 January date. The anniversary makes this a very good choice for that day. -- L'ecrivant (talk) 22:55, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
- Interesting compromise. It completely flipped my opinion of the matter. However, prior to providing said opinion, I'd like some clarification:
I do not support 1 January 2011. The DYK section is for new articles. There are exceptions like April Fools and Halloween; I do not see the point of making every day of the year a possible exception. Geschichte (talk) 20:28, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
- Oppose Anniversary or not, a four-month wait at DYK is an overkill. The point of DYK is to present new or newly expanded articles, not to present "on this day". By then this article will be more than four months old. If this line of though is going to be followed, DYK is going to end up in a mess. The length of this entry is plain evidence for why keeping things around for almost five months is not a good idea. Arsenikk 13:55, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
- per IAR. I would count this as a valid use of IAR. This could have gone up for today. The only reason it isn't going up is for political reasons. I disagree with Jimbo and others on that matter and think we should run it now, but there is no need to reject it entirely on that basis. NW (Talk) 03:03, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
- Support' as this would have been promoted in the usual time window if not for the decision to shelve it until the political heat was off. To kill it now because a delay was agreed to would be an egregious abuse of trust. - Dravecky (talk) 09:24, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
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