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*This is your personal opinion. In addition this source notes a Jewish survivor reporting that suicides started before Red Army entered the town--] (]) 19:17, 31 August 2010 (UTC) | *This is your personal opinion. In addition this source notes a Jewish survivor reporting that suicides started before Red Army entered the town--] (]) 19:17, 31 August 2010 (UTC) | ||
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Candidate entries
Articles created/expanded on September 1
Franz von Hipper
- ... that German Admiral Franz von Hipper was vilified as a "baby-killer" in the British press during World War I?
5x expanded by Parsecboy (talk). Self nom at 12:48, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
Escape of the Provisional Revolutionary Government
- ... that during the Vietnam War the South Vietnamese Army came close to "annihilating or capturing" the Vietcong leadership but was prevented from doing so by General Hoàng Văn Thái and his planned escape of the Provisional Revolutionary Government?
5x expanded by Esemono (talk). Self nom at 12:48, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
- Double post -- Esemono (talk) 13:08, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
East River Road Historic District
- ... that the Gothic Revival "Wedding Cake House" (pictured) in Grosse Ile's East River Road Historic District was built over 150 years ago and has never been remodeled?
Created by Andrew Jameson (talk). Nominated by Andrew Jameson (talk) at 10:43, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
- For convenience, direct link to cite: Grosse Ile Historical Society (2007), Grosse Ile, Arcadia Publishing, p. 82-83, ISBN 0738550507 Andrew Jameson (talk) 10:50, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
Aktio-Preveza Undersea Tunnel
- ... that the Aktio-Preveza Undersea Tunnel is the first and so far only undersea tunnel in Greece?
Created by Athenean (talk). Nominated by Athenean (talk) at 07:52, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
Labia minor
- ... that Labia minor is chocolate-brown and up to 7 mm long, including the pincer?
- Comment: For once, it's nice to be able to benefit from the confusion this animal's name provides!
Created by Stemonitis (talk). Self nom at 07:03, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
- Haha, I think the hook can be improved though:
- ALT1 ... that Labia minor are chocolate-brown, up to 7 mm long, and have pincers? Smartse (talk) 10:39, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
- Comment possible April Fool's Day DYK. Mjroots (talk) 10:54, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
- Brilliant. Both hooks are approved - love the suggestive, but not so suggestive picture. Clamshell Deathtrap (talk) 11:00, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
Harris Dental Museum
- ... that the Harris Dental Museum (pictured) in Bainbridge, Ohio preserves the first dental school in the United States?
Created by Nyttend (talk). Nominated by Nyttend (talk) at 04:42, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
Jacob Mayer
- ... that Jacob Mayer resigned in 1876 from his position as rabbi of Baltimore's Har Sinai Congregation amid charges that he had been a convert to Christianity who worked as a missionary in Africa?
Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 02:25, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on August 31
Podgorica–Shkodër railway
- ... that the Podgorica–Shkodër railway, built in 1985, was the first international railway of Albania?
Created by Your Über Monkey (talk). Nominated by Sulmues (talk) at 13:33, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
Bajzë Rail Station
- ... that the Bajzë Rail Station was completely cleaned up in 2003 from toxic chemicals dumped in 1991-92?
Created by Your Über Monkey (talk). Nominated by Sulmues (talk) at 13:25, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
USCGC Point Arden (WPB-82309)
- ... that the USCGC Point Arden, an 82-foot USCG Point class cutter originally designated as WPB-82301, later acquired the name Point Caution when the Coast Guard started naming all cutters longer than 65 feet?
Created by Cuprum17 (talk). Nominated by MC10 (talk) at 01:47, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
Edward A. Gisburne
- ... that, despite losing a leg in his first term of service, Edward A. Gisburne completed two more war-time stints with the United States Navy?
5x expanded by Jwillbur (talk). Self nom at 01:24, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
Leymah Gbowee
- ... that Leymah Gbowee organized a peace movement that ended the Second Liberian Civil War and led to the election of Ellen Johnson Sirleaf, the first female president in Africa?
5x expanded by USchick (talk). Self nom at 00:40, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
George Alexander Parks
- ... that George Alexander Parks (pictured) was appointed Governor of Alaska Territory after an impressive stint as a tour guide?
5x expanded by Allen3 (talk). Self nom at 22:50, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
- Comment: An example of what can happen after your boss assigns you to escort a group of dignitaries. --Allen3 22:51, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
Hipposandal
- ... that the hipposandal was a metal shoe laced to horse hoofs in Celto-Roman countries?
Created/expanded by Rama (talk). Nominated by Rama (talk) at 22:29, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
- Article contains only 651 characters of readable prose. Minimum required is 1500. --Allen3 00:29, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
- Oops, sorry. I hand't noticed that requirement. I'll try to beef it up a tad. Thank you! Rama (talk) 06:21, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
- Should be a bit better now. Thank you. Rama (talk) 06:52, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
Ancient Church Orders
- ... that Ancient Church Orders is a genre of early Christian literature which has the aim to offer authoritative prescriptions on matters of moral conduct, liturgy and church organization?
Created by A ntv (talk). Self nom at 21:44, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
X-Men: First Class (film project)
- ... that the planned Marvel Comics superhero film, X-Men: First Class is intended to take place during the 1960s and will parallel the history of Martin Luther King, Jr. and Malcolm X?
Created by Jhenderson777 (talk), -5- (talk). Nominated by TriiipleThreat (talk) at 20:27, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
Plön Castle
- ... that in 1933 Plön Castle (pictured) in Plön, in the north German state of Schleswig-Holstein, was used as an elite Nazi school that bore the name of SA commander Ernst Röhm until he was assassinated?
5x expanded by Bermicourt (talk). Self nom at 20:13, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
St Michael's Church, Cowthorpe
- ... that the tower of St Michael's Church, Cowthorpe, North Yorkshire, (pictured) has been described as "more like a castle fortification than a religious symbol" and its arch as "more suited to a cathedral than a small country church"?
Created by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 19:26, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
- - ready. Dincher (talk) 01:22, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
Lords of Finance
- ... that Lords of Finance by Liaquat Ahamed won the 2010 Pulitzer Prize in history?
Created by Remember (talk). Nominated by Remember (talk) at 18:16, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
Walter Powell (1842-1881)
- ... that Walter Powell ended his term as MP for Malmesbury when he vanished over the English Channel in a balloon?
Created by Motmit (talk). Self nom at 18:07, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
- Length, references and style all OK. Shadygrove2007 (talk) 12:35, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
Jacob Bigeleisen
- ... that Manhattan Project scientist Jacob Bigeleisen became an advocate for nuclear disarmament, saying that "having lived through that time, that any further use of nuclear weapons is out of the question"?
Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 17:27, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
- - ready. Dincher (talk) 01:26, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
Qemal Butka
- ... that architect Qemal Butka was actively a philatelist while being the mayor of Tirana?
Created by Aigest (talk). Nominated by Sulmues (talk) at 16:41, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
Jersey Circus
- ... that Jersey Circus is a webcomic mashup of images from The Family Circus newspaper comic strip and dialogue from MTV's Jersey Shore?
Created by Dravecky (talk). Self nom at 12:01, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
James Pierrepont Greaves
- ... that the English educational reformer James Pierrepont Greaves (1777-1842) described himself as a "sacred socialist" and advocated vegetarianism, water drinking, hydrotherapy and celibacy?
Created by Shadygrove2007 (talk). Self nom at 11:22, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
- ALT1 (shorter): ... that "sacred socialist" James Pierrepont Greaves (1777-1842) was an advocate of vegetarianism, water drinking, hydrotherapy and celibacy? Shadygrove2007 (talk) 16:41, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
¿Por Qué Te Tengo Que Olvidar?
- ... that Puerto Rican-American singer José Feliciano was awarded his sixth Grammy Award for his performance of the song "¿Por Qué Te Tengo Que Olvidar?"
Created by Jaespinoza (talk) 07:26, 31 August 2010 (UTC). Self nom at 07:25, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
Black-spotted whipray, brown whipray
- ... that the black-spotted whipray (pictured) was at first thought to be the same as the brown whipray, which itself was at first thought to be the same as the honeycomb stingray?
Created by Yzx (talk). Self nom at 06:43, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
William W. Evans
- ... that Lacrosse Hall of Fame inductee William "Moon" Evans, who twice led the United States in scoring, saw action in the Battle of Okinawa and the Battle of Peleliu?
Created by Strikehold (talk). Nominated by Strikehold (talk) at 05:47, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
Verified. Clamshell Deathtrap (talk) 09:47, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
- Comment: I think it would be nice to specify which nation, not just have "the nation". --Demiurge1000 (talk) 17:54, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
- Very good idea. I've changed it - hopefully that's okay with Strikehold. Clamshell Deathtrap (talk) 01:31, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
Pete Ladygo
- ... that guard Pete Ladygo went to Canada to play football for the Ottawa Rough Riders rather than accept a trade to the Detroit Lions?
Created by Strikehold (talk). Nominated by Strikehold (talk) at 04:19, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
- - ready. Dincher (talk) 01:29, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
1689 Boston revolt
- ... that the 1689 Boston revolt resulted in the dissolution of the Dominion of New England?
- ALT1:... that Puritan Bostonians overthrew their governor, loyal to the Catholic James II of England during the 1689 Boston revolt?
Created by DCI2026 (talk). Self nom at 04:19, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
George V. Chalmers
- that quarterback George "Shorty" Chalmers (pictured) was considered a triple threat man, and alongside Boze Berger, "one of the most dangerous pass–catch combinations in Maryland history"?
Created/expanded by Strikehold (talk). Nominated by Strikehold (talk) at 03:30, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
Kannagawa Hydropower Plant
- ... that when completed, the Kannagawa Hydropower Plant in Japan will be the largest pumped-storage power station in the world?
Created/self-nom by --NortyNort (Holla) 03:10, 31 August 2010 (UTC) 16:13, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
Mill Creek (Lake Erie)
- ... that after the Mill Creek flooded Erie Pennsylvania in 1915, it was diverted to a tube (pictured) that is large enough for a pickup truck to drive through?
Created by Niagara (talk). Self nom at 02:26, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
- - ready. Dincher (talk) 01:31, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
Ghiyasu'd-Din Naqqah
- ... that both a Persian envoy to the Ming China of ca. 1420 and his Chinese opposite number left important historical records about their journeys?
Created by Vmenkov (talk). Nominated by Vmenkov (talk) at 01:42, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
- Comment: I have no idea whether Ghiyasu'd-Din Naqqah's hometown was within the borders of today's Iran (rather than say, Afghanistan or Uzbekistan), but Shakh Rukh's embassy is described by Anglo-American academics (e.g., Timothy Brook) as "Persian". Contribution from anyone with the knowledge of the language and access to the primary source would be appreciated, at least for spelling the person's name in the original script! -- Vmenkov (talk) 01:42, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on August 30
825th Tank Destroyer Battalion
- ... that during the Battle of the Bulge, a gun crew of the American 825th Tank Destroyer Battalion knocked out a Tiger II tank by making it reverse into a house?
Created by Shimgray (talk). Self nom at 13:07, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
Bombing of Singapore (1944–1945)
- ... that United States Army Air Forces B-29 Superfortress bombers attacked targets in and near Singapore on eleven occasions between November 1944 and March 1945?
- ALT1:... that the air raids on Singapore conducted by by United States Army Air Forces B-29 Superfortress bombers during World War II were the longest daylight bombing operations up to that time?
Created by Nick-D (talk). Self nom at 03:23, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
Anthony Roberts (basketball)
- ... that Anthony Roberts is the only other NCAA Division I men's basketball player besides Pete Maravich to score 60+ points in two or more games?
Created by Jrcla2 (talk). Self nom at 01:51, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
White Boar
- ... that finding a silver badge symbolising a White Boar means the battle where Richard III died was not where it was believed to be?
Created by Johnbod (talk). Nominated by Victuallers (talk) at 20:57, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
Åre Old Church
- ... that Åre Old Church, (pictured) remains the only stone church in the Scandinavian Mountains from the Middle Ages?
Created by Philaweb (talk). Self nom at 19:10, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
- Are there wooden ones? Victuallers (talk) 20:57, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
- Yes, they are called stave churches and there are still some left /♥фĩłдωəß♥\ 21:13, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
Agustarello Affré
- ... that soprano Nellie Melba and tenor Agustarello Affré made their debut together at the Paris Opéra in 1890 as Lucia and Edgardo in Donizetti's Lucia di Lammermoor?
Created by 4meter4 (talk). Nominated by Gerda Arendt (talk) at 14:44, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
Ada Adini
- ... that soprano Ada Adini, a singer of Verdi's Gilda and Leonora, appeared as Brünnhilde in the Italian premiere of Wagner's Die Walküre at La Scala in 1893?
Created by 4meter4 (talk). Nominated by Gerda Arendt (talk) at 14:16, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
St Mary's Church, South Cowton
- ... that Sir Richard Conyers, who built St Mary's Church, South Cowton, (pictured) between 1450 and 1470, also built South Cowton Castle nearby, but destroyed the village of South Cowton?
Created by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 10:02, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
Reger-Chor
- ... that the international Reger-Chor celebrates 25 years, singing music of Bach, Van Nuffel, Ryelandt, and Reger's Hebbel-Requiem in Wiesbaden and Bruges?
Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self nom at 06:21, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
Treaty of Bonn
- ... that the Treaty of Bonn (7 November 921) was signed on a ship in the middle of the Rhine, the border between kingdoms of the two signatories, Charles the Simple and Henry the Fowler?
5x expanded by Srnec (talk). Nominated by Srnec (talk) at 02:55, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
French ironclad Marengo
- ... that the French ironclad Marengo was on her sea trials in July 1870 when the Franco-Prussian War began and was immediately placed in reserve; she was not commissioned until after the war was over?
5x expanded by Sturmvogel 66 (talk). Nominated by Sturmvogel 66 (talk) at 23:35, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
Viktor Nemkov
- ... that Viktor Nemkov is an M-1 Global veteran who was approached by World Wrestling Entertainment to become a professional wrestler?
Created by Paralympiakos (talk). Nominated by Paralympiakos (talk) at 22:44, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
Francisco Drinaldo
- ... that Francisco Drinaldo, better known as Massaranduba, is a Brazilian Kickboxing champion with an undefeated professional mixed martial arts record?
Created by Paralympiakos (talk). Self nom at 22:38, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
Hamilton H-47
- ... that during 1930, Isthmian Airways used Hamilton H-47 floatplanes for their service linking the Atlantic to the Pacific (Cristóbal to Balboa) in the Panama Canal Zone, claiming the 30-minute flight as the "fastest transcontinental service in North America".
5x expanded by RuthAS (talk). Nominated by TSRL (talk) at 20:43, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
- ALT1... that Hamilton H-47 floatplanes provided the "fastest transcontinental service in North America" in 1930, the 30-minute flight across the Panama Canal Zone? Le Deluge (talk) 10:11, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
David Einhorn (rabbi), Har Sinai Congregation
- ... that Rabbi David Einhorn (pictured) of Har Sinai Congregation in Baltimore sermonized in 1861 in opposition to slavery and had to flee to Philadelphia after a mob sought to tar and feather him for his views?
5x expanded by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 20:09, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
Princess Sophie of Saxe-Weimar-Eisenach (1888-1913)
- ... that suicide-victim Princess Sophie of Saxe-Weimar-Eisenach is believed to have been the first royal woman cremated?
Created by Ruby2010 (talk). Self nom at 17:41, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
- Comment: Added bold mark-up to article title. --Rosiestep (talk) 17:54, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
HMS Chatham (1812)
Created by Benea (talk). Self nom at 17:14, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
- New enough, long enough, hook is referenced in article, interesting hook (it had me thinking for a few seconds...) Offline references AGF --Demiurge1000 (talk) 17:24, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
George Garrard
- ... that artist George Garrard (1760-1826) made plaster models of farm animals, and successfully lobbied Parliament to introduce legislation to protect the copyright of British model-makers?
Created by Shadygrove2007 (talk). Self nom at 15:52, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
- (shorter alt)... that in 1798 artist George Garrard successfully lobbied Parliament to allow the copyright of British models?
- ALT1 (better - avoids ambiguity): ... that, in 1798, artist George Garrard successfully lobbied Parliament to introduce copyright protection for British model-makers?
Safet Butka
- ... that Albanian nationalist Safet Butka killed himself because in Albania the war against fascism was degenerating into a civil war?
Created by Aigest (talk). Nominated by Sulmues (talk) at 14:47, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
Isaac and Miria
- ... that Isaac Dian and Miria Harvent, characters of the Baccano! light novel and anime series, try to "steal time" by taking watches and attempt to bar entry by taking an entrance?
- ALT1:... that Isaac Dian and Miria Harvent, characters of the Baccano! light novel and anime series, forget to buy their friend a present and give a little boy as a gift instead?
Created by Itzjustdrama (talk). Self nom at 14:45, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
John Franklin Alexander Strong
- ... that according to U.S. Senator Ernest Gruening, Alaska Territorial Governor J. F. A. Strong (pictured) was not reappointed to the post because he was not a United States citizen?
5x expanded by Allen3 (talk). Self nom at 13:05, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
Danish Golden Age
- ... that the 19th-century Danish Golden Age did not just cover painting (example pictured) but a range of other cultural developments in architecture, sculpture, music and literature?
Alt .. that the 19th-century Danish Golden Age did not just cover painting (example pictured) but also architecture, sculpture, music and literature?
5x expanded by Ipigott (talk). Nominated by Elekhh (talk) at 12:53, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
Haverfordwest election, 1571
- ... that Alban Stepneth lost the Haverfordwest election, 1571, despite polling more votes than his opponent John Garnons?
Created by Claritas (talk). Nominated by Claritas (talk) at 12:42, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
- AGF as off-line reference Francium12 15:00, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
Battle of Suoi Chau Pha
- ... that Alexander Sutherland, an Australian soldier, was personally recommended for the US Medal of Honor by General William Westmoreland following the Battle of Suoi Chau Pha on 6 August 1967, only to later receive a lesser Australian award?
Created by Anotherclown (talk). Self nom at 12:12, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
Azotobacter
- ... that Azotobacter species (pictured) are used in the production of ice cream and instant puddings?
- Comment: See section "applications" and ref. 61. Materialscientist (talk) 11:43, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
5x expanded by Materialscientist (talk). Nominated by Materialscientist (talk) at 11:43, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
- I've reviewed this and everything is fine but think we need to add "alginic acid from" in between that and Azobacter in the hook since the bacteria themselves aren't used in the puddings and ice creams. Smartse (talk) 14:07, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
- Nah - I think it's fine as is, perfectly accurate and no need to dilute the hook with extra words. You can equally say that a saw is used in the production of wooden objects, or whatever. Le Deluge (talk) 18:45, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
- Adding alginic acid would make the hook more accurate but less intriguing, thus fewer people would be interested to read the article. I think it is one of those cases when the hook doesn't need to describe all details. Materialscientist (talk) 21:40, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
- Ok then, we'll go with how it is. Smartse (talk) 09:32, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
- Nah - I think it's fine as is, perfectly accurate and no need to dilute the hook with extra words. You can equally say that a saw is used in the production of wooden objects, or whatever. Le Deluge (talk) 18:45, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
Rice production in Romania
- ... that Romania is the sixth largest producer of rice in the European Union?
Created by Bine Mai (talk). Self nom at 09:16, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
- The reference for the claim in the hook is to a search facility (), is there another source that could be used to reference this? Smartse (talk) 14:18, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
- I didn't know that the FAOSTAT website is like that. I've put a new source. BineMai 15:13, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
- The reference still points to the same site and a search facility can't be used as a reference. I've had a look for another source that could be used but haven't had any joy. Smartse (talk) 09:48, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
- The reference for the claim in the hook is to a search facility (), is there another source that could be used to reference this? Smartse (talk) 14:18, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
1957 Maryland Terrapins football team
- ... that the 1957 Maryland Terrapins football season included a game attended by Queen Elizabeth II?
Created by Strikehold (talk). Nominated by Strikehold (talk) at 05:11, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
- Reference checks out fine Francium12 14:52, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
Bob Topp
- ... that Bob Topp helped the New York Giants defeat the Cleveland Browns in 1956 by intercepting radio signals used
to relay plays onto the field from the Browns' bench? Created by Cbl62 (talk). Self nom at 02:23, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
- Good to go Francium12 22:30, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
Spot-fixing
- ... that a 1995 spot-fixing scandal was thwarted by a Premiership footballer's underhit pass?
Created by Francium12 (talk). Nominated by Francium12 (talk) at 01:55, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
Walter Eli Clark
- ... that Alaska Territorial Governor Walter Eli Clark (pictured) was interested in rose cultivation and President of the American Rose Society?
5x expanded by Allen3 (talk). Self nom at 00:16, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
- Can you provide a source which says he was President? Francium12 22:51, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
- Redundant reference has been added to save reviewer from having to look to the end of a two sentence block that is supported by a single source. --Allen3 23:04, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
- Stay civil :-) Sometimes it is easy to miss a reference when you're reviewing Francium12 14:48, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
List of NME number-one singles from the 1970s
- ... that the NME chart placed Sex Pistols' "God Save the Queen" at number one even though the song was banned by some major retailers?
Created by Rambo's Revenge (talk). Self nom at 00:08, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
- Just changed the link to the Sex Pistols song rather than the national anthem :-D Francium12 18:24, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on August 29
al-Mabda', Iraqi Communist Party (1960), Daud as-Sayegh, Ittihad ash-Sha'ab, Associations Law
- ... that under 1960 Iraqi Associations Law, Daud as-Sayegh's tiny faction (which published al-Mabda') was accorded recognition as the 'Iraqi Communist Party', whilst the main communist group (which published Ittihad ash-Sha'ab) was denied legal status?
Created by Soman (talk). Self nom at 03:47, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
Metamora (shipwreck)
- ... that the Metamora sank near Pointe au Baril in 1907 and that part of the wreck (pictured) is still visible above the water?
Created by Captmondo (talk). Self nom at 14:51, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
Lorne Kidd Smith
- ... that Canadian painter Lorne Kidd Smith designed a poster for Canada's Victory Loan campaign and worked in the art department at General Motors?
Created by Nikkimaria (talk). Self nom at 04:07, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
Mei Yamaguchi
- ... that the nickname of Japanese mixed martial arts fighter Mei Yamaguchi comes from the V1 armlock wrestling move?
Created by Jfgslo (talk). Nominated by Secret Saturdays (talk) at 03:22, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
Promise Neighborhoods
- ... that the Promise Neighborhoods program has recieved 339 applications for $10 million in federal planning grants?
Created by SteveChervitzTrutane (talk). Nominated by Secret Saturdays (talk) at 03:22, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
Mimi Lo
- ... that cantopop singer Mimi Lo stated that her husband Power Chan only knew her as an actress when they first met?
Created by Music + Pageants (talk). Nominated by Secret Saturdays (talk) at 03:22, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
Le Castle Vania
- ... that at one point, Le Castle Vania's remix of Black Eyes by Snowden was the most requested song at a New Zealand radio station?
Created by Kindzmarauli (talk). Self nom at 01:06, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
Hamilton Hill, Schenectady, New York
- ... that the first Black church in Schenectady, New York was begun by a White college student and located in the Hamilton Hill neighborhood in 1870?
Created by Camelbinky (talk). Self nom at 19:10, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
Alexander Pendarves
- ... that MP Alexander Pendarves was listed as a member of the October Club?
Created by Rosiestep (talk). Self nom at 05:47, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
- Member of which Parliament? Or mention he was a Cornish MP or something. Le Deluge (talk) 18:54, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
Megaliths in Mecklenburg-Vorpommern
- ... that of more than 1,000 megaliths in Mecklenburg-Vorpommern (example pictured), 144 have been excavated since 1945?
Created by Skäpperöd (talk). Nominated by Skäpperöd (talk) at 05:37, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
- ALT1: ... that according to folklore, dwarves guard treasures hidden in Mecklenburg-Vorpommern's megalith tombs (example pictured)?
Tom Beckman
- ... that Michigan linebacker Tom Beckman worked more than 30 years for General Motors where he was in charge of new vehicle launches?
Created by Cbl62 (talk). Self nom at 02:33, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
- The 30 years isn't that interesting (and long service is implied by a relatively senior job), it would be nice if it was something along the lines of "was in charge of new vehicle launches at General Motors when XXX model was launched"? Helps bring it home to people if they can link him to something they see on their streets every day. Le Deluge (talk) 10:15, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
- Unfortunately, the source does not identify a specific model or list of models. If the 30 year part is a concern, we could go with the following alt hook:
- alt 1 ... that Michigan linebacker Tom Beckman later worked as an executive for General Motors where he was in charge of new vehicle launches?
Valerie Bettis
- ... that Valerie Bettis was the first modern dance choreographer to work with a major ballet company?
5x expanded by Cryptic C62 (talk). Self nom at 02:12, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
Andy Anderson (baseball)
- ... that as a member of the United States Army during World War II, professional baseball player Andy Anderson was taken captive by German soldiers and was later rescued from a Stalag?
Created by Halvorsen brian (talk). Self nom at 01:16, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
George Roubicek
- ... that actor George Roubicek had small roles in The Dirty Dozen, Doctor Who and the first Star Wars film before becoming a dialogue director who dubs foreign films into English?
Created by Hunter Kahn (talk). Nominated by Hunter Kahn (talk) at 01:05, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
827th Tank Destroyer Battalion
- ... that the 827th Tank Destroyer Battalion of the US Army was withdrawn from combat after less than a month's service, after reports that officers had threatened to shoot their own men?
- ALT1:... that when first ordered into combat in 1945, the 827th Tank Destroyer Battalion of the US Army had three men shot in brawls before it even left camp?
- Comment: I personally prefer the second, but I'm not sure how best to phrase it to make it clear they shot each other, rather than encountering opposition surprisingly early...
Created by Shimgray (talk). Nominated by Shimgray (talk) at 00:33, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
- I've tweaked the first hook slightly. Age, length, and hook verified. --Cryptic C62 · Talk 15:31, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
Freedom of the press in Ukraine
- ... that press freedom in Ukraine has never been rated higher than "partly free" by Freedom House?
Created by User:Mariah-Yulia (talk). Self nom at 23:59, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
J.D. Short
- ... that the American Delta blues singer, J.D. Short, had both of his testicles shot off?
Created by Derek R Bullamore (talk). Self nom at 23:57, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
- Length and date verified, offline ref accepted in good faith. --Cryptic C62 · Talk 01:32, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
Tō
- ... that Japanese pagodas, with very rare exceptions, have an odd number of tiers?
Created by Urashimataro (talk). Nominated by Urashimataro (talk) at 23:47, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
Gene Alderton
- ... that University of Maryland football co-captain Gene Alderton lost a tooth the week before he was scheduled to meet Queen Elizabeth II in a pre-game ceremony against North Carolina?
Created by Strikehold (talk). Nominated by Strikehold (talk) at 23:06, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
Gil Chapman
- ... that Gil Chapman was Michigan's career leader in kickoff return yards and the first African-American elected to office in Elizabeth, New Jersey?
Created by Cbl62 (talk). Self nom at 23:05, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
LeFleur's Bluff State Park
- ... that LeFleur's Bluff State Park is named for a French Canadian trader who established a trading post in what is now Jackson, Mississippi?
5x expanded by Dincher (talk). Self nom at 22:36, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
Legislative Assembly of Jammu and Kashmir
- ... that 24 seats in the Legislative Assembly of Jammu and Kashmir are for constituencies currently lying in Pakistan-administered Kashmir and thus are officially vacant?
Created by S h i va (Visnu) (talk). Nominated by S h i v a (Visnu) (talk) at 21:34, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
Black Betsy
- ... that Shoeless Joe Jackson's Black Betsy broke the record for the most expensive baseball bat in history, selling for $577,610 in 2001?
Created by Secret (talk). Self nom at 21:29, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
Wilford Bacon Hoggatt
- ... that due to potential tax implications, Governor Wilford Bacon Hoggatt (pictured) opposed granting the District of Alaska territorial status?
5x expanded by Allen3 (talk). Self nom at 20:41, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
Lagrivea
- ... that the fossil squirrel Lagrivea is characterized by deep basins in its teeth?
Created by Ucucha (talk). Self nom at 19:56, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
Bombings in Mogadishu
- ... that the May 2010 Mogadishu bombings were the deadliest bombings in Mogadishu, the capital of Somalia, since the 2009 Hotel Shamo bombing?
Created by Neelix (talk). Self nom at 19:13, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
Taurus-Littrow
- ... that the Taurus-Littrow valley, the landing site of Apollo 17 on the Moon, is deeper than the Grand Canyon?
Created by Tyrol5 (talk). Self nom at 18:43, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
- I'm concerned about using a primary source. The quote used to reference the deepness is: "We landed in a valley that had mountains higher than the Grand Canyon is deep." I think saying a valley is X deep is different than saying the mountains surrounding a valley are X high. -Atmoz (talk) 21:34, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
- ALT1:... that the mountains surrounding the Taurus-Littrow valley, the landing site of Apollo 17 on the Moon, are higher than the Grand Canyon is deep? Tyrol5 21:40, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
- ALT1. Quicker than a cat. :-) -Atmoz (talk) 21:42, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
- ALT1:... that the mountains surrounding the Taurus-Littrow valley, the landing site of Apollo 17 on the Moon, are higher than the Grand Canyon is deep? Tyrol5 21:40, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
Christos Adamidis
- ... that Greek aviator Christos Adamidis, landed his Farman MF.7 in the central square of his home place, Ioannina, as soon as the city came under Greek control, during the Balkan Wars (1912-1913)?
Created/expanded by Alexikoua (talk). Self nom at 18:40, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
Appalachian cottontail
- ... that the Appalachian cottontail (pictured) is unique among cottontails because it eats conifer needles?
5x expanded by Susanne2009NYC (talk). Nominated by Susanne2009NYC (talk) at 17:03, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
- I've changed the article wording of the text related to the hook to make it clearer that this is known rather than assumed. Smartse (talk) 14:33, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
Nikephoritzes
- ... that the eunuch official Nikephoritzes was the chief minister and effective governor of the Byzantine Empire during most of the reign of Michael VII Doukas?
Created by Cplakidas (talk). Self nom at 16:54, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
John Bettesworth-Trevanion
- ... that after Penryn MP John Bettesworth-Trevanion rebuilt Caerhays as a Gothic-style castle, he fell into debt and fled abroad?
Created by Rosiestep (talk). Self nom at 16:47, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
- ALT1: ... that Penryn MP John Bettesworth-Trevanion was described as "the very arbiter elegantiarum"? --Rosiestep (talk) 18:07, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
Somerset County Cricket Club in 1891
- ... that in 1891, Somerset County Cricket Club joined the County Championship?
Created by Harrias (talk). Self nom at 16:33, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
- Comment: Does this mean that if this particular sports club survives for a thousand years, there might be over a thousand Misplaced Pages articles about it? I find this mildly concerning. Also, isn't a more interesting hook possible? Presumably lots of cricket clubs joined this championship in the 19th century, so there's nothing particular interesting about that - maybe a hook about their return being a reversal of their fortunes after being thrown out of first class competition previously? --Demiurge1000 (talk) 17:37, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
- It's no different to 1960 Dallas Cowboys season or 1951–52 Manchester United F.C. season. The County Championship is reasonably exclusive - there's only been 18 members. One mildly interesting factoid is that Somerset was what USians would call the first "expansion" team after the original 8 members set up the league in 1890, but would agree it's more interesting that one of the more famous old clubs dropped out of major cricket altogether. Le Deluge (talk) 19:05, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
- ALT1: ... that in 1891, Somerset County Cricket Club regained first-class status, having lost it after the 1885 season?
- ALT2: ... that in 1891, Somerset County Cricket Club regained first-class status, after remaining unbeaten against county sides in 1890?
Harrias 07:44, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
- ALT3: ... that in 1891, Somerset County Cricket Club regained first-class status, after previously losing it due to the 1885 season in which they suffered heavy defeats and sometimes were unable to field the required eleven men for a match?
- As for the "sports team X, in year Y" article naming... well, I give up. Such things generate endless press coverage and I've seen far more obscure sports clubs now getting similarly named WP articles, so I suppose the existence of local rags prepared to cover such things, will forever make it possible to have yearly articles about them - much like the local rock bands etc. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 01:54, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
Réseau Breton 4-6-0 tank locomotives
- ... that two of the twelve 4-6-0T locomotives (example pictured) built for the Réseau Breton have been preserved?
Created by Mjroots (talk). Nominated by Mjroots (talk) at 16:16, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
Zennor Quoit
- ... that in 1861, a local Cornish farmer proposed to destroy the ancient Zennor Quoit site but was prevented by the vicar who payed him a financial incentive to build his cowshed elsewhere?
Created by Dr. Blofeld (talk). Nominated by Dr. Blofeld (talk) at 16:14, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
- Length, date, hook's ref verified. Added punctuation after the date. --Rosiestep (talk) 17:09, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
Martin Dannenberg
- ... that in April 1945 Martin Dannenberg, a Jewish U.S. Army intelligence officer, found an original copy of the Nazi Nuremberg Laws signed by Adolf Hitler in a Bavarian bank vault?
Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 15:22, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
Kampung Boy (television series)
- ... that American voice actors "kept slipping into a Jamaican accent" when voicing Malaysian characters in Kampung Boy?
Created by Jappalang (talk). Self nom at 14:44, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
- ALT1: ... that academics consider Kampung Boy the animated television series a cultural artefact, bearing witness to Malaysian society's rural-urban transition?
Current article size is 14 kB (2321 words). Jappalang (talk) 14:53, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
The Kampung Boy
- ... that "naughty ones with ... bushy hair" fill the pages of The Kampung Boy?
5x expanded by Jappalang (talk). Self nom at 14:43, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
- ALT1: ... that to a Kampung Boy, having the foreskin of his penis sliced off is "just like an ant bite"?
- ALT2: ... that Malaysian graphic novel The Kampung Boy was not first published in the country's official language and was later translated back to it?
- ALT3: ... that the language in the United States version of Malaysian graphic novel The Kampung Boy was left mostly untouched because the publisher judged its customers capable of understanding foreign words?
I expanded the article from 3082 B (507 words) to 19 kB (3229 words). Jappalang (talk) 14:52, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
Lat
- ... that to be permitted to draw political cartoons in 1975, Lat (pictured) had to win over his chief editor by offering up Malaysian Prime Minister Hussein Onn on a camel?
5x expanded by Jappalang (talk). Self nom at 14:42, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
- ALT1: ... that Lat (pictured) was made a datuk (a Malaysian knight) and a Professor of Anthropology and Sociology for drawing funny pictures of his fellow country men?
- ALT2: ... that Paul McCartney's music inspires Lat (pictured) to draw fashionable girls?
- ALT3: ... that Lat (pictured) found the inspiration to draw cartoons about circumcision while on assignment as a reporter to investigate dead bodies in a morgue?
Added two ALTs. Note that expansion is from 3532 B (598 words) to 35 kB (5872 words). Jappalang (talk) 14:48, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
- Added another ALT. Jappalang (talk) 01:39, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
Incredible work. You are amazingly resourceful. This article is well on its way to becoming a feature. You should go for it. If you want any help copyediting just ask.21:07, 29 August 2010 (UTC) Dr. Blofeld
- Thank you. I am indeed aiming for featured status, eventually; it is undergoing a peer review now. Jappalang (talk) 01:39, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
National Commission on Police Reform
- ... that Venezuela's 2006 National Commission on Police Reform proposed a new model of policing, with a new police force specifically trained in human rights?
Created by Rd232 (talk). Self nom at 14:01, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
Arvid G. Hansen, Arbeideren, Arbeidet
- ... that Arvid G. Hansen edited both Arbeideren and Arbeidet, the latter in a time when Arbeidet struggled because Arbeideren was prioritized by their common owner?
Created by Geschichte (talk). Self nom at 11:31, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
Arbeideren (Hamar)
- ... that competitors of the Hamar newspaper Demokraten (later Arbeideren) refused to mention it by name in their columns?
5x expanded by Geschichte (talk). Self nom at 11:27, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
Ellen Hillingsø
- ... that actress Ellen Hillingsø is the goddaughter of Queen Margrethe II of Denmark?
Created by Dr. Blofeld (talk). Nominated by Dr. Blofeld (talk) at 11:20, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
Angelli Spumante & Aperitive
- ... that the Angelli Spumante & Aperitive company owns one of the most modern alcohol producing facility in Europe?
Created by Bine Mai (talk). Self nom at 10:48, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
- Comment: I think this is problematic for two reasons, that this claim relies on a statement on the company's own web site, hardly third-party RS and more SELFPUB, and that it smacks of embellishment that is so common among company self-descriptions uninterested in neutral language. Yes it may well be "modern", but one of the most by whose standards? MURGH 15:29, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
- ALT1: ... that the Angelli Cherry sparkling wine owned by the Angelli Spumante & Aperitive company is sold in around 4 million bottles per year in Romania?
Jewish lawyer
- ... that the concept of the Jewish lawyer is a common stereotype of Jews, with Jews and Jewish lawyers depicted as clever, greedy, exploitative, dishonest, and engaging in moral turpitude and excessive legalism?
Created by Christopher Connor (talk). Self nom at 03:52, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
- Oy vey... Object! The article is bad enough, but having this sentence on the front page is not this Jewish lawyer's idea of fun. -- Y not? 05:09, 29 August 2010 (UTC
- Do you mean that I have crafted the article in a bad way or that the subject matter is itself bad? Christopher Connor (talk) 05:26, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
- The article is dubious, but the proposed hook just promotes the stereotype. I've proposed a more acceptable hook below. Jayjg 05:31, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
- ALT1... that the concept of the Jewish lawyer is a stock character and common stereotype of Jews?
- Better.—Sandahl (talk) 05:39, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
- I'm also fine with this one. Christopher Connor (talk) 05:49, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
- No I didn't know that - because it's simply not true. At least not in Britain, as far as I'm aware. Just because the US has huge hangups about the race thing, there's no need to assume that the rest of the world labours under the same burden. Either make it clear that this is a US-specific stereotype, or perhaps better, do something with the German laws that targetted them. I didn't know about those, so that was more interesting for me in any case. You're always on safer ground talking about past prejudices than current ones - and on blaming bad stuff on the Nazis... Le Deluge (talk) 14:54, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
Robert S. Ingersoll
- ... that Borg-Warner CEO Robert S. Ingersoll supported "better housing, economic opportunities and voting rights for the colored race" , noting that the firm's "labor force will be increasingly Negro"?
5x expanded by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 03:03, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
Plebiscite Front
- ... that the Plebiscite Front became the principal opposition to the state government of Jammu and Kashmir in the 1960s before merging into the National Conference in 1975?
Created by S h i v a (Visnu) (talk). Nominated by S h i v a (Visnu) (talk) at 01:40, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
Visa policy of South Korea
- ... that according to the Visa policy of South Korea, Canadian citizens are the only country to receive 6 month visa-free entry?
5x expanded by Crossmr (talk). Self nom at 01:15, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on August 28
Erminia Frezzolini
- ... that coloratura soprano Erminia Frezzolini created the title role, Joan of Arc, in Giuseppe Verdi's opera Giovanna d'Arco on 11 February 1843 at La Scala?
Created by 4meter4 (talk). Nominated by Gerda Arendt (talk) at 12:01, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
Restoring Honor rally, Black-Robed Regiment, The Blaze (website)
- ... that at Glenn Beck's Restoring Honor rally in 2010, he introduced a "Black-Robed Regiment" made up of pastors from various denominations; three days later, he launched a news website called The Blaze?
- Comment: Hodgson-Burnett's Secret Garden created Restoring Honor rally and Black-Robed Regiment, while I created The Blaze (website), so credit should be shared between us. Stonemason89 (talk) 16:07, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
Created by Hodgson-Burnett's Secret Garden (talk), Stonemason89 (talk). Nominated by Stonemason89 (talk) at 15:59, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
Japanese aircraft carrier Hōshō
- ... that the Hōshō served as a repatriation transport after the end of World War II, returning some 40,000 soldiers and civilians to Japan?
5x expanded by Sturmvogel 66 (talk). Nominated by Sturmvogel 66 (talk) at 23:24, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
Darryl Stonum
- ... that, after receiving contact lenses in 2010, Michigan wide receiver Darryl Stonum reported, "I could see everything like in HD"?
Created by Cbl62 (talk). Self nom at 02:11, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
- alt 1 ... that wide receiver Darryl Stonum broke Michigan's single season record with 1,001 kickoff return yards in 2009? Cbl62 (talk) 02:13, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
Jack Carpenter (American football)
- ... that Michigan tackle Jack Carpenter later played for the Toronto Argonauts and was described as "the pillar of strength on the Argos' front wall"?
Created by Cbl62 (talk). Self nom at 02:02, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
John Cullen
- ... that after John Cullen's National Hockey League career was ended due to cancer, he operated a car dealership until Chrysler closed him down?
5x expanded by Resolute (talk). Nominated by Resolute (talk) at 00:47, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
Ole Gausdal
- ... that as a member of the Parliament of Norway, Ole Gausdal proposed total disarmament?
Created by Geschichte (talk). Self nom at 21:17, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
Labour Elector
- ... that the publication of the British newspaper Labour Elector was discontinued in 1890 as its editor H. H. Champion travelled to Australia?
Created by Soman (talk). Self nom at 15:20, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
Yorkshire Factory Times
- ... that the socialist-oriented newspaper Yorkshire Factory Times began as an off-shoot of a conservative publication in 1899?
Created by Soman (talk). Self nom at 15:16, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
Fred Bachrach
- ... that while historian Fred Bachrach was a Japanese prisoner of war he was allowed to keep a copy of the works of William Shakespeare by convincing the guards that it was a "holy book"?
Created by Jackyd101. Nominated by Jackyd101 at 13:59, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
King of the Ring (2008)
- ... that the 2008 King of the Ring event produced by World Wrestling Entertainment featured Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama impersonators in a match?
5x expanded by Richard "Wrestler" Lopez (talk). Nominated by GaryColemanFan (talk) at 07:28, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
Star Wars Uncut
- ... that Star Wars Uncut is a fan film made up of 473 15-second clips, submitted by Internet users, that amount to a shot-for-shot remake of Star Wars Episode IV: A New Hope?
Created by Hunter Kahn (talk). Nominated by Hunter Kahn (talk) at 23:19, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
All Saints' Church, Harewood
- ... that the alabaster monuments in All Saints' Church, Harewood, West Yorkshire, (pictured) comprise the largest collection of such monuments in an English parish church within the dates 1419–1510?
5x expanded by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 21:12, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
Haus des Meeres, Tourist attractions in Vienna
- ... that in 2009 the Haus des Meeres attracted a record high number of visitors while attendance at other tourist attractions in Vienna abruptly dropped? self-nom, new, East of Borschov 20:04, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
John Robert Monsell
- ... that in 1935 Irish children's illustrator John Robert Monsell composed the songs and music, and designed the sets, for an operetta based on Sheridan's The Rivals?
Created by Susanne2009NYC (talk). Nominated by Susanne2009NYC (talk) at 16:41, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
Zangmu Dam
- ... that to India's dismay, China's Zangmu Dam, will be the first on the Brahmaputra River?
Created/self-nom by --NortyNort (Holla) 16:13, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
Honor C. Appleton
- ... that Honor C. Appleton illustrated more than 100 children's books between 1902 and 1950?
Created by Susanne2009NYC (talk). Nominated by Susanne2009NYC (talk) at 15:42, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
- Need to provide a footnote in the article to back up the claim in the hook. Apart from that the length and style is good. Shadygrove2007 (talk) 19:08, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
- Ok, reference accepted in good faith - ready to go. Shadygrove2007 (talk) 09:26, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
Bank Hall, Bretherton
- ... that the oldest yew tree in Lancashire is in the gardens of the 2003 BBC Restoration (TV series) first candidate Bank Hall, Bretherton, Lancashire (pictured). The Gardens also feature carpets of Snowdrops and one of two fallen sequoia trees in the United Kingdom.
Created by User:Bankhallbretherton (talk). Self nom at 16:20, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
- Comprehensive and interesting article, but not new or significantly expanded so far as I can see. Ghmyrtle (talk) 09:15, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
H. Willebeek Le Mair
- ... that Dutch illustrator H. Willebeek Le Mair published her first book Premières Rondes Enfantines in Paris in 1904 at the age of fifteen?
Created by Susanne2009NYC (talk). Nominated by Susanne2009NYC (talk) at 14:23, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
- The article (it is a good and informative piece of work, btw) lacks inline citations. Please, see DYK rules, #3. --Vejvančický (talk | contribs) 10:36, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
- Done Inline citations entered. Susanne2009NYC (talk) 12:27, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
- Date, length and DYK hook verified. --Vejvančický (talk | contribs) 12:59, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
Lectionary 283 and Biblioteca Communale
- ... that Lectionary 283 is housed at the Biblioteca Communale in Siena?
Created by Leszek Jańczuk (talk). Self nom at 14:11, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
- Comment: surely a more interesting hook is possible??? --Demiurge1000 (talk) 14:38, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
ALT1 ... that Lectionary 283 is housed at the Biblioteca Communale in Siena since 1786? Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 14:01, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
- Still not exactly fascinating... how about;
- ALT2 ... that the first five columns of Lectionary 283, a Greek manuscript of New Testament gospel lessons housed at the Biblioteca Communale in Siena, are written in gold? --Demiurge1000 (talk) 22:21, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
- Nice hook, I think. Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 00:10, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
Drežnik Viaduct
- ... that the 2,485 metres (8,153 ft) long Drežnik Viaduct is the longest viaduct in Croatia?
Created by Tomobe03 (talk). Self nom at 13:54, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
- Date, length and hook verified. The foreign language citation accepted in good faith: Samo vijadukt Drežnik dug je dva i pol kilometra(!), i to je najdulji vijadukt u Hrvatskoj. , (in Croatian). --Vejvančický (talk | contribs) 10:44, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
Eugène Olaussen
- ... that Eugène Olaussen, a one-time personal acquaintance of Lenin, shifted view and wrote in Nazi publications during WWII?
Created by Geschichte (talk). Self nom at 13:10, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
Prince Nikolaus of Thurn and Taxis (1885–1919)
- ... that Prince Nikolaus of Thurn and Taxis renounced his princely rights and title to marry actress Carola Reichenberger in 1913?
Created by Caponer (talk). Self nom at 13:05, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
Old Holy Trinity Church, Wentworth
- ... that the chancel and a chapel of Old Holy Trinity Church, Wentworth, South Yorkshire (pictured) are intact, but the nave is a ruin, and the tower has been truncated?
Created by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 13:01, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
Vistula delta Mennonites
- ... that Vistula delta Mennonites founded the first Russian Mennonite settlement in Chortitza in 1789?
Created by HerkusMonte (talk). Self nom at 12:10, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
Millicent Sowerby
- ... that Millicent Sowerby illustrated 30 sets in the Postcards for the Little Ones series, and was one of the first to illustrate Alice in Wonderland when it went out of copyright in 1907?
Created by Susanne2009NYC (talk). Nominated by Susanne2009NYC (talk) at 11:52, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
Axel Drolsum
- ... that under Axel Drolsum's time as head of the University Library of Oslo, he successfully worked for reinstating the legal deposit in Norway?
Created by Geschichte (talk). Self nom at 10:43, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
Amir Nachumi
- ... that Israeli ace Amir Nachumi scored 7 aerial kills while flying the F-4 Phantom II (pictured) and 7 kills flying the F-16 Fighting Falcon?
Created by Poliocretes (talk). Self nom at 10:25, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
- When? Which war?
- OK, but it's long. ALT1: ... that Israeli ace Amir Nachumi scored 7 aerial kills while flying the F-4 Phantom II (pictured) during the Yom Kippur War and 7 kills flying the F-16 Fighting Falcon during fighting over Lebanon in the early 1980s? Poliocretes (talk) 11:06, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
- "He scored 7 aerial kills " is rather brutal isn't it? "Scored" looks horrid, almost like it is a computer game rather than human lives. Dr. Blofeld 21:21, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
- Seconded, this type of language is not suitable for an encyclopedia. --Soman (talk) 04:33, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
- This is commonly used language when discussing such matters, even on Misplaced Pages. Flying ace - "He scored the most kills in World War I"; VFA-2 - "scored aerial kills"; Richard Minifie - "went on to score seventeen aerial victories"; Fred J. Christensen - "scored 21.5 aerial victories". The list goes on and on, there's nothing unencyclopedic about it.
- OK, how about : ALT2: ... that Amir Nachumi was credited with 7 aerial victories while flying the F-4 Phantom II (pictured) during the Yom Kippur War and 7 victories flying the F-16 Fighting Falcon during fighting over Lebanon in the early 1980s? Poliocretes (talk) 07:39, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
- My preference would be that we are happy to say on the front page, exactly what we say in the article. Poliocrates is right, "kills" is standard usage - for nearly 100 years - and entirely encyclopedic. It is perhaps worth pointing out that the "kill" is of an aircraft, not of its pilot. To use "victories" instead, is almost a case of providing a euphemism. On the other hand "credited with" is reasonable, if people really have a problem with "scored". Fighter pilots celebrate victories just like other professionals do, it's not unreasonable. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 03:51, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
- Seconded, this type of language is not suitable for an encyclopedia. --Soman (talk) 04:33, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
Lourdes Robles
- ... that Puerto-Rican singer Lourdes Robles recorded a Spanish language cover version of "The Long and Winding Road" originally performed by The Beatles?
Created by Jaespinoza (talk) 08:31, 28 August 2010 (UTC). Self nom at 08:30, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
Deriner Dam
- ... that when completed, the Deriner Dam will be the tallest in Turkey?
5x expanded/self-nom by --NortyNort (Holla) 07:32, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
- 5x, hook verified. -Atmoz (talk) 21:27, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
Latin Grammy Award for Best New Artist
- ... that the first recipient of the Latin Grammy Award for Best New Artist died in 2005 of multiple organ failure?
5x expanded by Jaespinoza (talk) 05:55, 28 August 2010 (UTC). Nominated by Jaespinoza (talk) 05:55, 28 August 2010 (UTC) at 05:53, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
- Would it not be more interesting to state that he won the "new artist" category at the age of 73, after he had been performing for 60 years? Ghmyrtle (talk) 10:13, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
- ALT1: that Cuban singer Ibrahim Ferrer won the Latin Grammy Award for Best New Artist at age 73, after he had been performing for 60 years?. Jaespinoza (talk) 02:26, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
The Gulf Stream (painting)
- ... that Winslow Homer sarcastically explained that the figure in The Gulf Stream (painting) "will be rescued & returned to his friends and home, & ever after live happily."?
5x expanded by JNW (talk). Nominated by JNW (talk) at 04:41, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
1941 Stanford Indians football team
- ... that despite the 1941 Stanford Indians being considered a favorite for the national championship, head coach Clark Shaughnessy correctly predicted at least two losses for his team?
Created by Strikehold (talk). Nominated by Strikehold (talk) at 04:20, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
Margaret Tarrant
- ... that British illustrator Margaret Tarrant launched her career at the age of 20 with Kingsley's The Water Babies?
Created by Susanne2009NYC (talk). Nominated by Susanne2009NYC (talk) at 03:25, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
Bangladesh Khelafat Majlish
... that despite her party's policy of secularism, the Awami League leader and current Bangladeshi Prime Minister Sheikh Hasina Wajed made a pact with the Islamist Bangladesh Khelafat Majlish, creating an electoral alliance?
Created by S h i v a (Visnu) (talk). Nominated by S h i v a (Visnu) (talk) at 02:02, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
- Pls trim the hook to 200 or fewer characters long. It's 220 characters long now. --PFHLai (talk) 03:56, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
- ALT: ... that despite her party's policy of secularism, Bangladeshi Prime Minister Sheikh Hasina Wajed had created an alliance with the Islamist Bangladesh Khelafat Majlish?
- I'll go with this one (I've taken the liberty of removing the words "electoral" and "current", and added "had", since this pact expired well before the 2008 election that brought her to power. Shiva (Visnu) 18:04, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on August 27
Walter Pilliet
- ... that Walter Pilliet (pictured) was popular in the New Zealand settlement of Akaroa, where many French settlers lived, as he spoke both English and French?
- Comment: Prose size (text only): 270 B prior to expansion, which was started on 27 August. Prose size now (text only): 6393 B
5x expanded by Schwede66 (talk), Karamiahongjoo (talk). Self nom at 09:16, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
De zaak Natalee Holloway
- ... that criminal suspect Joran van der Sloot wrote the book De zaak Natalee Holloway as his "opportunity to be open and honest about everything that happened"?
Created by KimChee (talk). Self nom at 08:31, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
Jack Karwales
- ... that Jack Karwales spent time as a Wolverine, Bear, and Cardinal, and a coach of Billikens?
Created by Cbl62 (talk). Self nom at 04:18, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
Valonia ventricosa
- ... that "sailors' eyeballs" are one of the largest single-celled organisms?
Created by User:Theornamentalist (talk). Nominated by User:Theornamentalist (talk) at 02:59, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
- Date, length, fact verified, image is PD. I think it should be singular, like in ALT1 ... that "sailors' eyeballs" (pictured) is one of the largest single-celled organisms? Materialscientist (talk) 06:17, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
- You're right, it should be singular, it sounds strange to me, although not stated in the reference singularly as in "sailors' eyeball" regarding a single specimen, can we assume that it would be properly used as that... as in..
- ALT2 ... that a "sailors' eyeball" (pictured) is one of the largest single-celled organisms?
- Let me know what you think - Theornamentalist (talk) 12:11, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
- An indefinite article sounds odd to me here. Need an opinion from a grammar expert. Materialscientist (talk) 22:20, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
- Let me know what you think - Theornamentalist (talk) 12:11, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
Double-headed serpent
- ... that the Aztec Double-headed serpent's surface is covered with a mosaic of turquoise, crab shell and snail shell?
Created/expanded by Victuallers (talk) 15:58, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
Yukon Wolf
- ... that the Yukon Wolf Conservation and Management Plan involved controlling the population of the Yukon Wolf in the Yukon through aerial wolf hunting?
Created by Silver seren (talk). Self nom at 20:12, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
Suzy Spafford
- ... that cartoonist Suzy Spafford, creator of the whimsical animal characters known as Suzy's Zoo, has been drawing since she was 3 years old?
5x expanded by MelanieN (talk). Self nom at 19:48, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
- Article is 1124 characters, below 1500.--NortyNort (Holla) 06:08, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
- How so? The character count at the revision history shows 5,677. --MelanieN (talk) 15:17, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
- Oh, I see - you only count the prose part of the article. And the list of books doesn't count. OK, I will work on expanding the article. --MelanieN (talk) 15:32, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
- There, is that better? --MelanieN (talk) 16:23, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
- Verified. Nice article.--NortyNort (Holla) 09:31, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
Ovachlamys fulgens
- ... that the important orchid pest snail Ovachlamys fulgens (pictured) can suddenly move several inches?
Created by Snek01 (talk). Nominated by Snek01 (talk) at 11:58, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
- Verified, including the word "important". Nice article. --NortyNort (Holla) 06:11, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
Horňácko
- ... that the folk festival (pictured) held in Horňácko is focused solely on the authentic folklore of the region?
Created by Vejvančický (talk), Hrdinský (talk). Nominated by Vejvančický (talk) at 09:56, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
- Date, length, DYK hook and image license verified. Good to go. Excellent! --Snek01 (talk) 12:09, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
Ceratobasidium cornigerum
- … that fungi in the Ceratobasidium cornigerum complex cause diseases such as "silky threadblight", "sharp eyespot", "yellow patch", and "black rot"?
5x expanded by RunningClam (talk). Nominated by Sasata (talk) at 05:14, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
- ALT1... that Ceratobasidium cornigerum fungi theaten your tea and biscuits? Le Deluge (talk) 15:04, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
E. Normus Johnson, Big Johnson
- ... that E. Normus Johnson is a fictional advertising mascot depicted in comic art on Big Johnson t-shirts that use double entendres?
Created by TonyTheTiger (talk). Nominated by TonyTheTiger (talk) at 02:52, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
Wayne Ambler
- ... that Philadelphia Athletics manager Connie Mack (pictured) gave Wayne Ambler money for tuition when he attended Duke University?
- ALT1:... that due to his financial situation, professional baseball player Wayne Ambler (pictured) had to take the bus and subway to work when he was a member of the Philadelphia Athletics?
- ALT2:... that professional baseball player Wayne Ambler (pictured) fought in Normandy and the Battle of the Bulge in Antwerp as a member of the United States Navy during World War II?
- ALT3:... that after professional baseball player Wayne Ambler (pictured) retired he coached Little League Baseball, including an all-star team featuring Reggie Jackson?
Created by Halvorsen brian (talk). Self nom at 00:31, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
- date, length, primary hook all check. However, if a picture is used, it should be the picture of Ambler, who is the subject of the article, not Connie Mack. Rlendog (talk) 02:15, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
- I don't think that's a specific rule. The Mack image is used in the Ambler article, so there shouldn't be an issue. I used it over the Ambler image in the first hook since it is a featured image. --Brian Halvorsen (talk) 04:56, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
- It may not be a specific rule, but the new article is about Ambler, and the hook is basically about Ambler (after all, Mack's activity here is probably not unique to Ambler) so the Ambler picture seems more relevant. I am not sure why Mack being a Featured Picture should override that. Rlendog (talk) 22:45, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
Why use the picture of Mack when he is not mentioned in the hook?--Ishtar456 (talk) 14:05, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
- Maybe I should have noted this, but that's why I used two images. When it say's "pictured" by Mack's name, the image of Mack should be included. When it says "pictured" next to Ambler's name, his image should be used. Again, the only reason I used the image of Mack in the first hook was because it is a featured picture. For the other hooks, the Ambler image should be used. --Brian Halvorsen (talk) 19:13, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
But why use his picture at all? He is not mentioned in the hook.--Ishtar456 (talk) 20:28, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
- Yes he is. In the first hook it states, "Philadelphia Athletics manager Connie Mack (pictured)". In the rest of the hooks, the Ambler image should be used. That's why I put both of them in. --Brian Halvorsen (talk) 20:32, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
sorry, my bad.--Ishtar456 (talk) 00:33, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
Atari 2600 homebrew
- ... that over 100 Atari 2600 homebrew games have been created since the 2600 was withdrawn from the market in 1992?
Created by 28bytes (talk). Self nom at 22:05, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
Hook is not cited in article. Wilhelmina Will (talk) 23:49, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
- The reference in the third paragraph of the article (where the hook appears) links to a page which lists 100+ entries... unless I'm misunderstanding? 28bytes (talk) 00:03, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
- I see - I was looking at the "History" section. I checked the source, but there does not appear to be anything there which verifies that the 100 games were released after the 2600 was withdrawn. Wilhelmina Will (talk) 00:19, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
- The same source defines homebrew games as those being released in 1995 or later: (which is cited a little further down in the article.) Should that cite be moved further up? Or am I better off rephrasing the hook? 28bytes (talk) 00:31, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
- I see - I was looking at the "History" section. I checked the source, but there does not appear to be anything there which verifies that the 100 games were released after the 2600 was withdrawn. Wilhelmina Will (talk) 00:19, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
- The reference in the third paragraph of the article (where the hook appears) links to a page which lists 100+ entries... unless I'm misunderstanding? 28bytes (talk) 00:03, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
No worries; all checked now. I added the citation to the sentence I had first noticed as well, since what that sentence says is more along the lines of the hook. Seems good to go! Wilhelmina Will (talk) 02:37, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks! 28bytes (talk) 06:06, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
- Someone read the hook ... grammar or something is wrong Victuallers (talk) 11:36, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks! 28bytes (talk) 06:06, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
Philip Michael Faraday
- ... that valuation expert Philip Michael Faraday composed comic operas before producing shows in the West End of London and managed to recover from a1914 bankruptcy?
Created by Tim riley (talk), Ssilvers (talk). Nominated by Ssilvers (talk) at 21:22, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
- ALT1... that Philip Michael Faraday authored a standard book on property taxes before writing comic operas, including the curtain raiser to H.M.S. Pinafore? Le Deluge (talk) 15:10, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
Padusoy
- ... that invoking paduasoy silk for 18th-century local colour has got historical novelists into errors about a Paduan origin?
Created by Wetman (talk). Self nom at 20:36, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
Joe Willie Wilkins
- ... that the American Memphis blues guitarist, singer and songwriter, Joe Willie Wilkins, had the childhood nickname of "Walking Seeburg"?
Created by Derek R Bullamore (talk). Self nom at 20:31, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
Milk Pail Restaurant
- ... that the Country Tea Room, a predecessor to the Milk Pail Restaurant (pictured), was opened in 1926 by Max McGraw, the inventor of the Toastmaster?
Created by Teemu08 (talk). Self nom at 19:04, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
Who's That Girl (soundtrack)
- ... that Madonna with the song "Who's That Girl", included in the soundtrack of the same name, became the first female performer to get six number-ones in the 1980s as a solo act, in the US Billboard Hot 100?
5x expanded by Legolas2186 (talk) and Tbhotch (talk). Self nom at 18:27, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
- ALT1... that the title track of the album Who's That Girl made Madonna the first solo female performer to get six US number-ones in the 1980s? (not perfect, but better) Le Deluge (talk) 15:19, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
Princess Sophie of Saxe-Weimar-Eisenach
- ... that Princess Sophie of Saxe-Weimar-Eisenach and two others became embroiled in a small diplomatic scandal leading up to the 1937 wedding of Dutch Crown Princess Juliana?
Created by Ruby2010 (talk). Self nom at 18:28, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
- ALT1: ... that the Nazi government's withholding of Princess Sophie of Saxe-Weimar-Eisenach's passport was considered by the Dutch government to be "an insult to the Queen"? Ruby2010 (talk) 18:32, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
St Mary's Church, Lead
- ... that St Mary's Church, Lead, North Yorkshire, (pictured) is known locally as the Ramblers' Church because it was saved in the 1930s by a local group of ramblers?
Created by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 17:57, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
Manila Police District
- ... that Arthur MacArthur, Jr. (pictured) is considered to be the first chief of the Manila Police District?
Created by Howard the Duck (talk). Nominated by Howard the Duck (talk) at 16:59, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
- ALT1 ... that the Manila Police District, with the motto "Manila's Finest," was harshly criticized with their handling of the Manila hostage crisis? –HTD (ITN: Where no updates but is stickied happens.) 19:57, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
- Verified. Either hook is fine and verified. --NortyNort (Holla) 11:38, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
- If I may suggest a minor correction for grammar to alt 1 ("was" and "their" don't go together, and they were criticised "for", not "with"): ALT1b ... that the Manila Police District, with the motto "Manila's Finest," was harshly criticized for its handling of the Manila hostage crisis? Strange Passerby (talk) 12:00, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
St Peter's Church, Wintringham
- ... that the art historian Nikolaus Pevsner described St Peter's Church, Wintringham, as "the most rewarding church in the East Riding" (of Yorkshire)?
Created by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 15:43, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
Michel Montignac
- ... that Michel Montignac developed a glycemic index-based plan to help himself lose weight, which led to a book promoting his Montignac diet which has sold 16 million copies worldwide?
Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 15:01, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
Bartlett Dam
- ... that the Bartlett Dam (pictured) is the first dam of its type constructed by the U.S. Bureau of Reclamation?
5x expanded/self-nom by --NortyNort (Holla) 12:10, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
Miguel (singer)
- ... that American recording artist Miguel signed a recording contract with Jive Records after submitting a highly personal song entitled "Sure Thing"?
Created by Explicit (talk). Nominated by Explicit (talk) at 08:38, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
Crystal structure of boron-rich metal borides
- ... that the crystal structure of boron-rich metal borides may contain extended atomic units shaped as "superpolyhedra" and "tubes" (pictured)?
- Comment: ALT1 ... that the unit cell of rare-earth metal borides may contain more than 1500 atoms? see Fig. 21 for the first hook and section REB66-type borides for the second. Fig. 21 combines modeling and actual electron miscroscopy images. In the left part of the image, tubes are standing inside every green "circle". Materialscientist (talk) 06:33, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
5x expanded by Materialscientist (talk). Nominated by Materialscientist (talk) at 06:33, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
- Superb article - suggest there may be more eye catching pics as this needs to be a lead DYK. Victuallers (talk) 16:52, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
Jirrawun Arts
- ... that Jirrawun Arts was founded in 1998 after Indigenous Australian artist Freddie Timms decided that $300 and a cheap suit wasn't fair pay for a month's work painting pictures?
Created by Hamiltonstone (talk). Self nom at 06:13, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
- Good to go Thelmadatter (talk) 14:59, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
Caerhays Castle
- ... that the garden of Caerhays Castle is home to the largest collection of magnolias in England?
Created by Rosiestep (talk). Self nom at 06:07, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
- Verified. Gatoclass (talk) 13:02, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
Lee and Kennedy
- ... that Kensington (Olympia) station lies on part of the grounds of Lee and Kennedy, the prominent nurserymen in Hammersmith, London, who introduced the Chilean fuchsia, Fuchsia magellanica, to English gardens in 1788?
Created by Wetman (talk). Self nom at 03:24, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
- Too long hook. ALT: ... that Kensington (Olympia) station lies on part of the grounds of Lee and Kennedy, the prominent nurserymen in Hammersmith who introduced the Chilean fuchsia to English gardens in 1788?
- That looks good to me.--Wetman (talk) 14:09, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
exercise and music
- ... that research on the interplay between exercise and music has found that faster-tempo music motivates people to work harder when performing at a moderate pace but that peak performance is unaffected?
Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 01:29, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
- Article has orphan tag, darn that AWB! --NortyNort (Holla) 11:33, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
Older nominations
Articles created/expanded on August 26
Vuno
- ... that Vuno, a village in the Albanian riviera, was reported as to have shown sympathy to the 1997 rebellion in Albania?
Created by Dr. Blofeld (talk), Sulmues (talk), Alexikoua (talk). Nominated by Dr. Blofeld (talk) at 16:02, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
Beaver Canyon Scenic Byway
- ... that Utah's Beaver Canyon Scenic Byway is the 5th highest paved road in the state, at 9,200 feet (2,800 m), but that its unpaved portion rises even higher, at over 10,200 feet (3,100 m) in elevation?
Created by DeFaultRyan (talk). Nominated by DeFaultRyan (talk) at 23:37, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
Luitingh-Sijthoff, Albertus Willem Sijthoff
- ... that Dutch publisher Luitingh-Sijthoff was founded in the "city of books" by Albertus W. Sijthoff, who opposed the Berne Convention because he felt copyright restrictions stifled the industry?
Created by KimChee (talk). Self nom at 08:58, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
- ALT1:... that Dutch publisher Luitingh-Sijthoff was founded in the "city of books" by A.W. Sijthoff (pictured), who opposed the Berne Convention over the effect of copyright restrictions on the industry?
New England Cottontail
- ... that in the southern counties of Maine the New England Cottontail (pictured) has been reduced to perhaps 250 individuals?
5x expanded by Susanne2009NYC (talk). Nominated by Susanne2009NYC (talk) at 01:06, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
- Length (> 5x expansion) and ref verified. Article expansion started 26 Aug so after article gets moved to that date group, it's good to go. --Rosiestep (talk) 17:21, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
- Done Article moved to Aug 26. Susanne2009NYC (talk) 21:58, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
- Length, date, hook's ref verified. --Rosiestep (talk) 17:33, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
Milford Oyster Festival
- ... that Linda McMahon plunged a firefighter in a dunk tank in the "Dunk your favorite firefighter" Milford Oyster Festival activity during her 2010 campaign for a seat in the US Senate?
- ALT1:... that the Milford Oyster Festival, billed the largest one-day festival in New England and listed among the top 10 annual events in Connecticut, draws over 50,000 attendees each year?
- Comment: fact in main hook not directly in text of source, but in the video that is embedded there.
Created by Codehydro (talk). Self nom at 20:43, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
- Maybe this ought to go to the #Special occasion holding area?--for next year, since we just missed the last festival —CodeHydro 12:50, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
King of the Ring (1997)
- ... that the World Wrestling Federation's 1997 King of the Ring event led to a storyline in which different races fought against each other?
5x expanded by Richard "Wrestler" Lopez (talk). Nominated by GaryColemanFan (talk) at 15:54, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
Somawathiya National Park, Flood Plains National Park, Maduru Oya National Park
- ... that Maduru Oya (pictured), Wasgamuwa, Flood Plains, and Somawathiya of Sri Lanka are the four national parks declared under the Mahaweli Development Project?
- Comment: The hook is in Maduru Oya National Park#History and cultural heritage section, hook source is offline and in Sinhala, but can be verified partially by this and this. Wasgamuwa is a former DYK article.--Chanaka L (talk) 11:12, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
Created by Chanakal (talk). Self nom at 11:12, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
Rogelio Álvarez
- ... that professional baseball player Rogelio Álvarez failed to report to spring training with the Washington Senators in 1963 because he was unable to leave Cuba for the United States?
Created by Halvorsen brian (talk). Self nom at 00:45, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
Committee of 100 on the Federal City
- ... that the first two chairmen of the Committee of 100 on the Federal City were Frederic Delano (uncle of Franklin D. Roosevelt) and Owen Roberts, U.S. Supreme Court Associate Justice?
Created by Tim1965 (talk). Self nom at 13:55, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
Nathan Redmond
- ... that Nathan Redmond became Birmingham City Football Club's second-youngest player ever when he made his first-team debut in August 2010 at the age of 16 years and 173 days?
Created by Will bcfc (talk). Nominated by Struway2 (talk) at 13:04, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
Jenkins' whipray
- ... that the usually plain-colored Jenkins' whipray (pictured) has a spotted variant once considered to be a different species, the dragon stingray?
5x expanded by Yzx (talk). Self nom at 03:57, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
- Length (> 5x expansion) and ref verified. Article expansion started 24 Aug so after article gets moved to that date group, it's good to go. --Rosiestep (talk) 17:38, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
- ALT1 ... that the usually plain-colored Jenkins' whipray (pictured) has a spotted variant, the dragon stingray, once considered to be a different species? --Rosiestep (talk) 17:40, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
- Sorry, I don't quite understand what the issue to be addressed is? -- Yzx (talk) 21:53, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
Darrell Harper
- ... that former Michigan halfback Darrell Harper scored the first points and kicked the first field goal and extra point in the history of the Buffalo Bills?
Created by Cbl62 (talk). Self nom at 03:32, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
Tlayacapan
- ... that the town of Tlayacapan, Morelos, Mexico is the origin of the Chinelos dance (pictured)?
5x expanded by Thelmadatter (talk). Self nom at 01:18, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
- Verified, with a minor hook tweak. Nsk92 (talk) 19:48, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
Musselbed Shoals Light
- ... that ice shifted the original, one-room Musselbed Shoals Light by four feet in 1875?
Created by Mangoe (talk). Nominated by Mangoe (talk) at 23:48, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
- nice hook Victuallers (talk) 15:33, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
Operation Lucid
- ... that Operation Lucid was a British plan to use fire ships to attack invasion barges that were gathering in ports on the northern coast of France in preparation for a German invasion of Britain in 1940?
Created by Gaius Cornelius (talk). Self nom at 22:29, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
- Note: moved from user space to article space today.
- Looks good although some minor copyediting would be desirable. Mangoe (talk) 23:54, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
- copyediting complete (several people have contributed) --Demiurge1000 (talk) 16:36, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
- ALT1... that Operation Lucid was a plan to "singe Mr Hitler's moustache" in 1940? Le Deluge (talk) 15:23, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
Ye Xiaowen
- ... that Chinese Director of Religious Affairs Ye Xiaowen said that Buddhism has a "unique role in promoting a harmonious society"?
Created by Quigley (talk). Self nom at 21:18, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
Kai G. Henriksen
- ... that having completed the advanced WSET course, CEO of Vinmonopolet Kai G. Henriksen is the company's first director to achieve a wine trade education?
5x expanded by Murgh (talk). Self nom at 21:15, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
- ALT1: ... that having completed the advanced WSET course, CEO of Norwegian alcohol monopoly Vinmonopolet Kai G. Henriksen is the company's first director to achieve a wine education?
Jack Newnes
- ... that Welsh half-back Jack Newnes was the only footballer ever to be capped at international level while playing for Nelson?
Created by BigDom (talk). Self nom at 21:08, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
St James' Church, Stretham
- ... that the 1876 clock on the east face of the tower of St James' Church, Stretham, (pictured), is by JB Joyce & Co of Whitchurch, Shropshire, the oldest firm of tower clockmakers in the world?
Created by Senra (talk). Self nom at 20:46, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
- Looks good except for one point: the hook cite is for the fact that JB Joyce & Co is the oldest firm of tower clockmakers in the world, but does not tell us that the Turret clock is made by that firm. How do we know who made that clock? hamiltonstone (talk) 03:41, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
- The clockmaker is sourced in reference and (from this page version) at the end of the relevant hooked sentence. I realise may not be WP:RS but I only put it in to help DYK volunteers as the build plans folder is not digitally available --Senra (Talk) 09:55, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
- I moved what was reference to the end of the clause forming the hook. I hope this helps clarify --Senra (Talk) 12:16, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks Senra, all good. hamiltonstone (talk) 01:42, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
Saint Endelienta
- ... that the Cornish Saint Endelienta is believed to have subsisted on the milk of a cow?
5x expanded by TheRetroGuy (talk). Nominated by TheRetroGuy (talk) at 20:44, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
date, length, citation of hook
- suggested Alt:
- ... that Cornish Saint Endelienta, a hermit, is believed to have subsisted solely on the milk of a cow who was also her only companion?--Ishtar456 (talk) 03:48, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks for the alternative suggestion, sounds good to me. Says a bit more about who she was. TheRetroGuy (talk) 12:27, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
2010 New York City cab stabbing
- ... that New York City mayor Michael Bloomberg condemned the 2010 New York City cab stabbing, saying that it was "counter to everything New Yorkers believe"?
Created by Stonemason89 (talk). Nominated by Stonemason89 (talk) at 20:38, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
- How does this single semi-random drunken stabbing not violate WP:NOTNEWS? It's only not a minor local story by dint of the so-called "Ground Zero Mosque" controversy, not a subject of independent enduring importance. - Dravecky (talk) 20:49, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
- If you feel as such, then you should put it up for AfD and that would stall this nomination until the AfD's completion. Otherwise, your opinion of its notability doesn't matter in terms of the nomination. Silverseren 20:29, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
- Apart from that, the hook is rather bland; the fact that a mayor doesn't quite like it when someone is attacked in his city is not especially surprising. Ucucha 20:43, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
- As long as the nominator agrees, how about...
- (Alt 1)... that Ahmed Sharif, the victim in the 2010 New York City cab stabbing, still believes in the American Dream, regardless of the event? Silverseren 20:48, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
- Much better. Ucucha 21:05, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
- (Alt 1)... that Ahmed Sharif, the victim in the 2010 New York City cab stabbing, still believes in the American Dream, regardless of the event? Silverseren 20:48, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
currently at AfD. -Atmoz (talk) 21:22, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
Holy Trinity Church, Wensley
- ... that Holy Trinity Church, Wensley, North Yorkshire, (pictured) contains a screen moved from Easby Abbey at the Dissolution of the Monasteries?
Created by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 19:50, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
Helen Chinoy
- ... that the books Actors on Acting and Directors on Directing by Helen Chinoy, collections of essays about theatre, have been used widely as college texts and remained in print for more than 50 years?
Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 18:54, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
- date, length hook is not cited and the same sentence is written twice.--Ishtar456 (talk) 03:36, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
- Additional source has been added for hook and duplicated sentence has been removed. Alansohn (talk) 02:48, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
This sentence "She wrote an essay to introduce the book, which has been used over the years as a college textbook" needs a citation and the other book mentioned here needs to have the same thing said about it in the article as in the hook and needs citation.--Ishtar456 (talk) 11:27, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
- I think the latest ref I've added should address the issue. Alansohn (talk) 17:39, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
the cited source does not say Actors on Acting was used as college text. I reworded as follows:
- date, length and citation verified "... that the book Directors on Directing by Helen Chinoy, collections of essays about theatre, have been used widely as college text and remained in print for more than 50 years?"--Ishtar456 (talk) 23:26, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
Palasë
- ... that Palasë, on the Albanian Riviera, is built around a 100 year-old platanus (plane tree) , which is the pride of the village?
Created by Dr. Blofeld (talk), Sulmues (talk). Nominated by Dr. Blofeld (talk) at 18:43, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
- Date, length and hook verified. Seems like a charming place, why don't you guys include one of the pictures from the article in the hook? Todor→Bozhinov 12:33, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
Menarsha synagogue attack
- ... that nobody was ever convicted for the Menarsha synagogue attack in which 12 people were killed?
Created by Chesdovi (talk). Self nom at 17:29, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
- date and hook citation length should be 1500 characters or more, this is only 1327. Also I suggest This Alt: ... that nobody was ever convicted for the 1949 Menarsha synagogue attack in Syria, in which 12 people were killed?
--Ishtar456 (talk) 04:10, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
- I have expanded it. Instead of "in which 12 people were killed" maybe "which left 12 people dead" is better? Chesdovi (talk) 22:17, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
- ... that nobody was ever convicted for the 1949 Menarsha synagogue attack in Syria, which left 12 people dead?--Ishtar456 (talk) 00:30, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
L'Hermitage Slave Village Archeological Site
- ... that the L'Hermitage Slave Village Archeological Site (pictured) had one of the largest slave populations in Maryland, and was noted for harsh conditions?
5x expanded by Acroterion (talk| Self nom at 16:35, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
Houston Stackhouse
- ... that the American Delta blues guitarist and singer, Houston Stackhouse, taught Robert Nighthawk how to play the guitar?
Created by Derek R Bullamore (talk). Self nom at 15:52, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
- Verified, offline reference AGF. --NortyNort (Holla) 11:31, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
David Rowland
- ... that the 40/4 stacking chair created by David Rowland, which won the grand prize at the 1965 Milan Triennale, got its name from the fact that 40 chairs could be nested in a stack 4 feet (120 cm) high?
Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 15:42, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
Tabley House
- ... that the manor of Nether Tabley in Cheshire, including Tabley Old Hall and Tabley House (pictured), was owned by the Leicester family for almost exactly 700 years?
5x expanded by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 14:21, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
- Expansion and hook ref look OK. hamiltonstone (talk) 03:47, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
Pisidia longicornis
- ... that the porcelain crab Pisidia longicornis (pictured) is sometimes found among mussels and oysters in European fish markets?
Created by Stemonitis (talk). Self nom at 12:52, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
- Looks good. Mangoe (talk) 20:51, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
St. James Episcopal Church (Grosse Ile, Michigan), Lisette Denison Forth
- ... that former slave Lisette Denison Forth worked as a maid, but willed her life savings to build the St. James Episcopal Church (pictured) in exclusively white Grosse Ile, Michigan?
Created by Andrew Jameson (talk). Nominated by Andrew Jameson (talk) at 11:29, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
- The fuller story is that Lisette Denison Forth was born a slave, and a) ran away to Canada, established residency, and returned to Michigan a free woman, b) worked for much (but not all) of the rest of her life as a maid for a succession of important people, c) became good friends with her employers, d) invested her money wisely, and was one of the few African-Americans to own stock and property, e) left the bulk of her estate to establish an Episcopal church; and f) said church was built after her death in upper-class white Grosse Ile. I find each of those points interesting, and the package fascinating, and tried to jam as much as I could into the hook, but alternate versions are welcome. Sorry for the rambling, but these two articles turned out to be more interesting than I thought they would be going in. IMO, obviously. Andrew Jameson (talk) 11:41, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
- Also note the alt text of the image. Andrew Jameson (talk) 11:41, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
Goodnestone Park
- ... that Jane Austen began writing her novel, Pride and Prejudice (originally named First Impressions), after staying at Goodnestone Park in Kent with her brother in 1796?
Created by Dr. Blofeld (talk). Nominated by Dr. Blofeld (talk) at 10:37, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
Abrázame Muy Fuerte (song)
- ... that the number-one song "Abrázame Muy Fuerte" performed by Juan Gabriel was featured as the theme song of a telenovela of the same title?
Created by Jaespinoza (talk) 07:47, 26 August 2010 (UTC). Self nom at 07:46, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
Little Zab, Great Zab
- ... that Arab geographers described the Little Zab and the Great Zab (pictured) as "demoniacally possessed"?
- Comment: Double nom
Created/expanded by Zoeperkoe (talk). Self nom at 02:16, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
- Verified. Very nice expansions. A pleasure to nominate. --NortyNort (Holla) 11:09, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on August 25
John Ericsson class monitor
- ... that the inside of the gun turret of the Swedish John Ericsson-class monitors was lined with mattresses to catch splinters?
5x expanded by Sturmvogel 66 (talk). Nominated by Sturmvogel 66 (talk) at 23:17, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
French ironclad Triomphante
- ... that the French ironclad Triomphante helped to capture the Pescadore Islands in March 1885 during the Pescadores Campaign of the Sino-French War?
5x expanded by Sturmvogel 66 (talk). Nominated by Sturmvogel 66 (talk) at 23:09, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
- - hook isn't explicitly reffed in the article, but I put two and two together. Dincher (talk) 22:19, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
French ironclad Victorieuse
- ... that the French ironclad Victorieuse, commanded by Rear Admiral Bergasse du Petit-Thouars, supported the pacification of the Marquesas Islands in 1880, which had been conquered by the admiral's uncle Abel Dupetit Thouars forty years before?
5x expanded by Sturmvogel 66 (talk). Nominated by Sturmvogel 66 (talk) at 23:02, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
- ?? - I counted 202 characters in the hook. They are supposed to be under 200 characters. Could someone else check I counted by hand and my character counting too doesn't work on my current PC. Dincher (talk) 22:24, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
French ironclad La Galissonnière
- ... that the French ironclad La Galissonnière bombarded the Tunisian port of Sfax in July 1881 as part of the French occupation of Tunisia?
5x expanded by Sturmvogel 66 (talk). Nominated by Sturmvogel 66 (talk) at 22:50, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
- - ready. Dincher (talk) 22:27, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
Brazilian monitor Pará
- ... that the Brazilian river monitor Pará was so badly damaged after passing the Paraguayan fort at Humaitá on 23 February 1868 that she had to be beached to prevent her from sinking?
5x expanded by Sturmvogel 66 (talk). Nominated by Sturmvogel 66 (talk) at 22:45, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
- - ready. Dincher (talk) 22:46, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
Brazilian monitor Rio Grande
- ... that the Brazilian river monitor Rio Grande bombarded the Paraguayan capital of Asunción on 24 February 1868, during the War of the Triple Alliance?
5x expanded by Sturmvogel 66 (talk). Nominated by Sturmvogel 66 (talk) at 22:36, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
Pará class monitor
- ... that the gun turret of the Brazilian Pará-class monitor was manually rotated by four men via a system of gears and required 2.25 minutes for a full 360° rotation?
5x expanded by Sturmvogel 66 (talk). Nominated by Sturmvogel 66 (talk) at 22:31, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
Brazilian monitor Alagoas
- ... that during the Brazilian Fleet Revolt of 1893–94 the rebel river monitor Alagoas had to be towed into position to fire on the government forts in Rio de Janeiro because her engines had been removed?
5x expanded by Sturmvogel 66 (talk). Nominated by Sturmvogel 66 (talk) at 22:24, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
Brazilian monitor Santa Catharina
- ... that the Brazilian river monitor Santa Catharina sank at her mooring in 1882 while under repair due to the poor condition of her hull?
5x expanded by Sturmvogel 66 (talk). Nominated by Sturmvogel 66 (talk) at 22:17, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
Bắc Giang, Bắc Kạn, Cao Bang, Ha Giang, Lang Son, Lao Cai, Phu Tho, Quang Ninh, Thai Nguyen, Tuyen Quang and Yen Bai
- ... that the 11 provinces of Bắc Giang, Bắc Kạn, Cao Bang, Ha Giang, Lang Son, Lao Cai, Phu Tho, Quang Ninh, Thai Nguyen, Tuyen Quang and Yen Bai constitute the region of Đông Bắc (North East Vietnam) (pictured)?
5x expanded by Nvvchar (talk), Dr. Blofeld (talk), YellowMonkey (talk). Nominated by Dr. Blofeld (talk) at 18:08, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
11 article hook nom. Articles are gradually being improved. Reference will be added to support that the provinces all belong to this region. Dr. Blofeld 18:08, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
- Date, length verified (some articles moved from userspace). Great, but unfinished job. Please copyedit all 11 (I only quickfixed typos without really reading the articles), wikilink, expand some leads, etc. Lao Cai Province still contains untranslated text; some data are missing in Tuyên Quang Province. Materialscientist (talk) 04:22, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
Lombok International Airport
- ... that a new airport is being built in Indonesia as part of the government's plan to promote Lombok and Sumbawa as the number two tourist destination in the country after Bali?
Created by Felix505 (talk). Nominated by PFHLai (talk) at 17:58, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
- Verified. --NortyNort (Holla) 10:39, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
Jurek Wilner
- ... that Jurek Wilner, a member of ŻOB who took part in the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising, left his notebook of poems with the Dominican nuns in Wilno, where he hid during the early part of Nazi occupation of Poland?
5x expanded by Radeksz (talk). Nominated by Radeksz (talk) at 10:12, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
- Date and 5x+ expansion verified. At 205 characters, the hook is currently over the 200 character limit and needs to be shortened. I also think the hook is trying to pack a bit too much information - it may be a good idea to simplify it a little. Nsk92 (talk) 14:52, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
- ALT1:... that Jurek Wilner, who took part in the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising, left his notebook of poems with the Dominican nuns in Wilno, where he hid during the early part of Nazi occupation of Poland?
- OK, thanks, ALT1 is good in terms of length. There is still one minor issue. The sentence in the article verifying the hook fact occurs at the end of the first paragraph in the "During the war" section. The sentence has a footnote to ref item no 2, the book of Hanna Krall, "The subtenant ; To outwit God". I think you need to specify the page number(s), at least for this particular occurrence of the ref since the book is quite long. From using the googlebooks preview it seems that the relevant page for the hook fact is p. 229. Nsk92 (talk) 01:55, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
MV Mariam
- ... that the owners of MV Mariam intend to use it to cross the blockade of the Gaza Strip?
- Comment:
Currently awaiting closure at AfD.
- Comment:
5x expanded by ME202012 (talk), Mjroots (talk), Drmies (talk), Djembayz (talk and Haus (talk). Nominated by Haus (talk) at 12:25, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
- Comment: Result at AfD was keep. Haus 08:44, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
Ryan Boyle
- ... that Ryan Boyle who holds the Ivy League lacrosse career scoring record once set the Maryland high school football single-season pass completion percentage record?
5x expanded by TonyTheTiger (talk). Nominated by TonyTheTiger (talk) at 02:44, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
- - ready. Dincher (talk) 22:53, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
Geothermal power in Indonesia
- ... that exploration for geothermal power in Indonesia dates back to the Kawah Kamojang test borings (pictured) of 1926?
Created by Elekhh (talk). Self nom at 11:22, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
- Alt1 ... that exploration for geothermal power in Indonesia was successful as early as 1926 at Kawah Kamojang (pictured)?
- Date, length, ref for hook fact and image all OK. I've tweaked the hook and ALT1 slightly and also the alt text to make it descriptive - interesting article. Mikenorton (talk) 14:21, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
Microhyla nepenthicola
- ... that the newly described Microhyla nepenthicola is the smallest species of frog in the Old World?
Created by Kazvorpal (talk), ErikHaugen (talk), Mgiganteus1 (talk), and Rlendog (talk). Nominated by Rlendog (talk) at 01:55, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
- Length, date and hook refs verified. —Bruce1ee 08:57, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
Carnegie (ship), Carnegie Ridge
- ... that the Carnegie, a brigantine made almost entirely from non-magnetic materials, covered nearly 300,000 miles measuring Earth's magnetic field and discovered the Carnegie Ridge (pictured) in 1929?
- Comment: Carnegie Ridge started from a redirect
Created by Mikenorton (talk). Self nom at 20:21, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
Waco Cubs
- ... that in 1929, a crowd of 11,000 people attended an exhibition game between the Waco Cubs and the New York Yankees at Katy Park, which only held 4,000?
Created by Halvorsen brian (talk). Self nom at 03:42, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
- Everything checks out, statement is referenced and verified, size good, new article. Cheers. — KV5 • Talk • 11:53, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
Seymour Island (Nunavut)
- ... that the gulls of Seymour Island breed on raised beaches unlike other Canadian Ivory Gull colonies?
Created by Rosiestep (talk). Self nom at 02:21, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
- - ready. Dincher (talk) 22:56, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
2010 Irwin Tools Night Race
- ... that by winning the 2010 Irwin Tools Night Race, Kyle Busch became the first driver to win a race in all three major NASCAR divisions in the same weekend?
5x expanded by Nascar1996 (talk). Nominated by NerdyScienceDude (talk) at 23:58, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
- - ready. Dincher (talk) 00:20, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
Albany City Hall
- ... that Albany City Hall, in Albany, New York, was the location of the 1754 Albany Congress, where Benjamin Franklin proposed the Albany Plan of Union?
5x expanded by UpstateNYer (talk). Self nom at 22:50, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
- We need to add "the former" to make the statement true.--Wetman (talk) 01:19, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
- How about:
- ... that one of Albany, New York's former city halls (pictured) was the location of the 1754 Albany Congress, where Benjamin Franklin proposed the Albany Plan of Union? upstateNYer 02:46, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
Newfoundland 2 dollar coin
- ... that with its two-dollar coin (reverse pictured), Newfoundland was the only British colony to issue circulating gold coinage?
- ALT1:.. that while originally a gold dollar was planned for Newfoundland's currency, the denomination was changed to two dollars (reverse pictured) over concerns it would be lost due its small size and value?
Created by Zmyrst (talk). Self nom at 22:49, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
- I don't think the original hook is accurate. The Australian colonies struck gold coins. Of course, they were mostly British sovereigns, but some said they were Australian.--Wehwalt (talk) 00:30, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
- Sovereigns were struck in the Ottawa Mint too, for example, but they were bullion. This coin though was intended for circulation, which I've put explicitly in the hook to avoid the problem with the sovereigns. Zmyrst (talk) 01:30, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
- True, though Canada was not a colony at at the time. Close enough I think, quibble removed.--Wehwalt (talk) 12:32, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
- Looks good to me.--Wehwalt (talk) 23:25, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
Emmanuel Rodríguez
- ... that Emmanuel Rodríguez's boxing championship at the 2010 Youth Olympic Games was Puerto Rico's first gold medal in an event sanctioned by the International Olympic Committee?
Created by Caribbean H.Q.(talk). Self nom at 22:48, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
- and - ready. Dincher (talk) 22:59, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
Krka Bridge
- ... that the Krka Bridge comprises the longest span of all Croatian A1 motorway bridges, surpassing the Maslenica Bridge span by only 4 m (13 ft) (pictured)?
Created by Tomobe03 (talk). Self nom at 21:27, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
- New article. Difficult to verify hook as the references are in Croatian. Gaius Cornelius (talk) 22:38, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
- Added some new English language references for verification.--Tomobe03 (talk) 09:26, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
- Defined more precisely location of information in the existing English language reference.--Tomobe03 (talk) 16:43, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
Macedonia under the Ottoman Empire
- ... that Ottoman rule of Macedonia lasted for roughly 500 years?
Created by Local hero (talk). Self nom at 21:05, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
- Comment: The title, "Ottoman-era Republic of Macedonia", sounds a bit strange to a casual reader. The first impression on seeing it is, "What, was there a Republic of Macedonia in the days of the Ottoman Empire - perhaps something like the Paris Commune or the "Zheltuga Republic"? IMHO, something like "Macedonia under the Ottoman rule" would sound a lot better, unless you want to strictly (and anachronistically) focus the article on the events that took place within the borders of today's (FY)ROM, rather than with the 3 vilayets (Skopje, Bitola , and Salonica) that were commonly considered as "Macedonia" back then. -- Vmenkov (talk) 02:03, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
- Ok, I moved it. --Local hero 14:32, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
Arad–Szeged pipeline
- ... that the Arad–Szeged pipeline connects Romania and Hungary?
Created by Bine Mai (talk). Self nom at 20:28, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
Norman Walsh
- ... that the first commander of the Air Force of Zimbabwe, Air Marshal Norman Walsh, resigned after Central Intelligence Organisation agents tortured his senior officers?
5x expanded by Greenshed (talk), ColonelHyde (talk). Self nom at 19:57, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
St. Ninian's Church, Tynet
- ... that St. Ninian's Church, Tynet looks like a barn because it had to be hidden from Protestants?
Created by AMuseo (AMuseo). Self nom at 25 August 2010 (UTC)
- ALT 1 that St. Ninian's Church, Tynet is the oldest post-Reformation Catholic Church in Scotland?
- Article is new enough, long enough, both hooks are in cited online sources. I prefer the first hook. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 17:08, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
Pierre-Augustin Hulin
- ... that future General Pierre-Augustin Hulin was one of the first French revolutionaries to enter the Bastille in 1789?
- ALT1:... that, during the Napoleonic Wars, French general Pierre-Augustin Hulin was shot in the face while thwarting a coup led by generals opposed to Napoleon's Empire?
- ALT2:... that French General Pierre-Augustin Hulin presided over the Napoleonic tribunal that sentenced the royalist Duke d'Enghien to death on dubious charges, including treason?
Created by DCI2026 (talk). Self nom at 19:08, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
- ALT3:... that, after the storming of the Bastille, revolutionary and future French general Pierre-Augustin Hulin unsuccessfully tried to save the life of the prison's governor —Preceding unsigned comment added by DCI2026 (talk • contribs) 12:59, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
Coprinellus impatiens
- ... that young specimens of the mushroom Coprinellus impatiens have a powdery stem that eventually sloughs off to leave a smooth surface?
Created by Sasata (talk). Self nom at 18:41, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
Little Syria, Manhattan
- ... that until it was razed in the 1940s, New York City's Little Syria, the "heart of New York's Arab world", existed just blocks away from the site of the controversial proposed mosque complex?
Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 18:16, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
- ALT 1 ... that a Christian Arab immigrant neighborhood called Little Syria once stood near the site of the controversial proposed mosque complex?
- ALT 2 ... that a neighborhood of Christian refugees from Muslim lands called Little Syria once stood near the site of the controversial proposed mosque complex?
- Very strongly oppose ALT1 and ALT2, or indeed anything that doesn't mention New York. There are dozens if not thousands of controversial proposed mosque complexes worldwide—any proposal to build something that will attract large crowds of people always causes controversy—and there's no earthly reason why any reader outside New York should be expected to guess what you're referring to. (I imagine that most European readers would presume that "controversial proposed mosque complex" refers to Abbey Mills Mosque or the Cologne Mosque project.) – iridescent 16:20, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
- I agree. The current proposed hook is fine. One alternative, if one is needed is to say "....existed just south of what became the site of the World Trade Center. ScottyBerg (talk) 14:09, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
Hygrophorus eburneus
White mushroom on a stick connected by slime to a finger
- ... that the slimy mushroom Hygrophorus eburneus (pictured) is commonly known as the "cowboy's handerchief"?
Created by Sasata (talk). Self nom at 18:00, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
- Might want to say why it has this name. Then again, now that I know why, you might not. Mangoe (talk) 13:08, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
Scott Barry
- ... that Triple-A fill-in umpire Scott Barry ejected three Major League Baseball All-Stars in one week between August 18 and August 25, 2010?
Created by Killervogel5 (talk). Nominated by Killervogel5 (talk) at 16:31, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
- I actually didn't know the same guy had all these ejections (the Howard one, as the most recent and rather large, is the one that I knew about), interesting. Just meets the prose size criteria. I found myself reading it thinking it was written casually every time I saw "Barry " and then I remembered that's his last name and not his first. :p Staxringold talk 16:53, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
Lactarius sanguifluus
- ... that the edible mushroom Lactarius sanguifluus (pictured) can bioaccumulate heavy metals from polluted soil, such as near roadsides subject to heavy traffic?
5x expanded by Sasata (talk). Self nom at 16:07, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
- Hook, length, date, pic all check out. Good to go! -- Zoeperkoe (talk) 04:15, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
Dale Warren
- ... that Dale Warren was a conservatory-trained violinist whose work as an arranger for Stax Records and others has been a fruitful source of breakbeats?
Created by Ghmyrtle (talk). Self nom at 14:53, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
Phobjika Valley, Black-necked Cranes in Bhutan, Gangteng Monastery
- ... that the Phobjika Valley welcomes the Black-necked Cranes as winter visitors, from Tibet to central Bhutan, to roost and in the process the cranes circle the Gangteng Monastery (pictured) thrice on arrival and repeat the process on their return to Tibet?
Created by Nvvchar (talk). Self nom at 14:29, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
Note: It is triple article hook. The first two articles are new and the third one is an expansion.
air bag vest
- ... that a rider at the Rolex Kentucky Three Day whose horse fell on him said that without an automatically inflated air bag vest he "would be in a box or in America for a month"?
Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 14:02, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
Jacques-Barthélemy Micheli du Crest
- ... that while incarcerated in Aarburg Castle, Jacques-Barthélemy Micheli du Crest (pictured) created a scientific panorama of the Alps using some gutter pipe filled with water?
- Comment: The source of the hook fact is in German, but it's quite clear how he did it from images on page 24 of the source
Created by Worm That Turned (talk). Self nom at 13:05, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
- Is there a problem with the link to the German article that confirms the hook? I cannot get to it. Gaius Cornelius (talk) 22:53, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
- It's working fine for me, and I'm at work, with a fairly restrictive connection. It's an online scanned in version of the journal. -- WORMMЯOW 07:37, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
If there is a problem... how about
- ALT 1 ... that Jacques-Barthélemy Micheli du Crest (pictured) created a temperature scale that used a cellar 84 foot under Paris Observatory as it's base point?-- WORMMЯOW 07:43, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
Hong Bao
- ... that in June 2010, a Ming-era tomb near Nanjing was identified as that of Hong Bao, one of the admirals of Zheng He's fleet?
5x expanded by Vmenkov (talk). Self nom at 05:31, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
Philg88 16:12, 19 January 2025 UTC
- Good point on the dates. The thing is, pretty much everything we know about Hong Bao (and about most other personalities and activities of Zheng He fleet) is on about the same level. Someone has talked me into proofreading the Zheng He article on the Russian wiki, so I got myself all the books that took about the personalities involved - Dreyer, Levathes, Tsai - and none of them has the birth of death dates for the guy. The Chinese articles, which reported finding his grave as a big news, did not give his life dates either, which most likely means that they don't know either; normally, they do give this kind of background when ity's available. Accordingly, I've put in floruit dates now.
- The "Ming Empire"... I don't mind rewording it, but I believe it's a common way to refer to the nation state ruled by the emperors of the Ming Dynasty. It's used in plenty of books, including e.g. the Cambridge History of China: http://www.google.com.au/search?hl=en&safe=off&tbo=1&tbs=bks%3A1&q=%22ming+empire%22 ; just like we often talk about the "Hapsburg Empire" or "Ottoman Empire", for example.
- As to the map, I explain what the sources are. It is a speculation of course, but it is based on the best available modern research (i.e., Edward L. Dreyer's analysis of who must have gone where and in what order, during the best documented voyage of Zheng He's fleet). Basically, about the solid line Dreyer (and other historians) are pretty sure, because they consider the existing detailed source trustworthy, and it appears in a similar fashion on a map in Dreyer's book. What's shown by dashed and dotted lines is more conjectural. First, the list of places visited is based on believing that the "primary source" (Ma Huan, and whoever provided info that eventually ended up in the History of Ming - Wang Jinghong probably) actually went where they said they went, and did not get the whole story from talking to other travelers in a Calicut tavern. Second, ordering of the destinations required some guesswork on the part of the historians involved, and there are different interpretations; but what I've drawn is based on what Dreyer thought was most likely. As you see, I am quite sparing on lines - lots of places are just shown as circles, because the historians believe they were visited by some squadrons, but don't try to set forth a complete itinerary. One can see that there are plenty of "Zheng He travel" maps around ( http://www.google.com/images?hl=en&safe=off&q=%22zheng+he%22+map ), and they all are somewhat different, but it's the same with Marco Polo or almost any other medieval traveller, or really with most other historical maps that go several centuries into the past. -- Vmenkov (talk) 15:55, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
- My point on the Ming is that in Chinese terms it was a dynasty (明代 Ming Dai) and that is the way it is generally referred to across WP in English. As for the map, maybe change "likely" to "possible" or "suggested"?
- Best, Philg88 16:12, 19 January 2025 UTC
- Sure, "possible route" sounds good. Changed the caption as suggested. As to "Ming Dynasty" vs. "Ming Empire" - for me, "Ming Dynasty" as an equivalent to 明代 (Ming Dai) or 明朝 ("Ming Chao"), i.e. the dynasty of rulers or the historical period, while "Ming Empire" is an equivalent for something like 明帝国 (Ming Diguo) or 大明国 (Da Ming Guo), i.e. the name of the state itself. But since Edward L. Dreyer himself in his book does not actually use the expression "Ming Empire" (he has "Ming China" for the country, or "during the early decades of the Ming Dynasty", "the early Ming period", etc., I have changed the wording to avoid the expression that you find inopportune in the context. -- Vmenkov (talk) 13:31, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
- As to the map, I explain what the sources are. It is a speculation of course, but it is based on the best available modern research (i.e., Edward L. Dreyer's analysis of who must have gone where and in what order, during the best documented voyage of Zheng He's fleet). Basically, about the solid line Dreyer (and other historians) are pretty sure, because they consider the existing detailed source trustworthy, and it appears in a similar fashion on a map in Dreyer's book. What's shown by dashed and dotted lines is more conjectural. First, the list of places visited is based on believing that the "primary source" (Ma Huan, and whoever provided info that eventually ended up in the History of Ming - Wang Jinghong probably) actually went where they said they went, and did not get the whole story from talking to other travelers in a Calicut tavern. Second, ordering of the destinations required some guesswork on the part of the historians involved, and there are different interpretations; but what I've drawn is based on what Dreyer thought was most likely. As you see, I am quite sparing on lines - lots of places are just shown as circles, because the historians believe they were visited by some squadrons, but don't try to set forth a complete itinerary. One can see that there are plenty of "Zheng He travel" maps around ( http://www.google.com/images?hl=en&safe=off&q=%22zheng+he%22+map ), and they all are somewhat different, but it's the same with Marco Polo or almost any other medieval traveller, or really with most other historical maps that go several centuries into the past. -- Vmenkov (talk) 15:55, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
Sarcoscypha dudleyi, William Russell Dudley
- ... that Sarcoscypha dudleyi (pictured) was named after the botanist William Russell Dudley?
Created by Sasata (talk). Self nom at 05:14, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
Five Punishments
- ... that the Five Punishments of Traditional Chinese law following the Sui Dynasty (581-618 CE), including the death penalty, could all be remitted through payment of a set amount to the state?
Created by Philg88 (talk). Self nom at 14:18, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
- most of the article is written in list form and lacks inline citations.Thelmadatter (talk) 21:54, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
- There are actually 16 inline citations which I would have thought was enough for an article of this size. As for the list format, this is a Chinese legal code and the original is laid out that way - I don't know how else the information can be presented without it looking a mess.
- Philg88 19 January 2025
Cortinarius anomalus, Cortinarius cinnamomeus, Cortinarius delibutus, Cortinarius hemitrichus, Cortinarius infractus, Cortinarius praestans, Cortinarius purpurascens, Cortinarius traganus, Cortinarius varius
- ... that webcaps can be yellow (pictured), variable, cinnamon, frosty, bitter, goliath, bruising, gassy, or contrary?
- Comment: The hook may be easily verified in one swoop by opening the PDF document "Recommended English Names for Fungi in the UK" (cited in all) and confirming that the common names used here are valid.
Created by Sasata (talk). Self nom at 04:45, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
- Actually, hold up on reviewing for a couple of days and I will be able to able another article or two to this hook. Thanks. Sasata (talk) 15:37, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
- Added one more. Ready for review. Thanks, Sasata (talk) 17:19, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
Edward Kean
- ... that as chief writer of The Howdy Doody Show, Edward Kean conceived of Howdy Doody's 1948 run for U.S. President and coined the word "cowabunga" as a greeting for the character Chief Thunderthud?
Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 02:34, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
- Bear in mind that Howdy Doody means absolutely nothing to a majority of en.wiki users. The cowabunga thing does have a global resonance, although it's a bit more complicated than the NYT reference makes out. Thunderthud actually said "kawabonga", and it was modified by surfers in the 1950s/60s to "cowabunga". However the lineage is clear, and in the NYT reference Kean claims credit directly for "cowabunga" so for the purposes of a 200-character hook, I think we can say he was the inventor of cowabunga. I can't quite believe that I've just spent time sorting out the etymology of cowabunga on Wikitionary, but such is life - its old en.wiki page used to get 3000+ hits a month, so it's worth nailing down. How about the following, or variants thereof :
- ALT1... that Edward Kean coined the word "cowabunga" for a TV show about a US Presidential candidate?
- ALT2... that Edward Kean coined the word "cowabunga" and tried to put a puppet President in the White House? Le Deluge (talk) 09:50, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
- ALT3... that Edward Kean coined the word "cowabunga" during the mock presidential campaign of puppet, Howdy Doody? I disagree that Howdy Doody should be taken out of the hook, as he has a lot of meaning to the people who do recognize him and is a major reason for continuing to read the article.--Ishtar456 (talk) 01:45, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
Humphrey Atherton
- ... that Major-General Humphrey Atherton, in his position of assistant governor of colonial Massachusetts, was instrumental in bringing about the execution of Ann Hibbins for witchcraft in 1657 (pictured)?
- ALT1:... that early Dorchester, Massachusetts settler Major-General Humphrey Atherton established the first militia in the colony and held the highest military rank in colonial New England?
- ALT2:... that early Dorchester, Massachusetts settler Major-General Humphrey Atherton persecuted Quakers and those accused of witchcraft (pictured) and made illegal claims to Native American lands?
- ALT3:... that Major-General Humphrey Atherton's accidental death was seen by the Quakers as a punishment from God for his persecution of them?
Created/expanded by Ishtar456 (talk). Self nom at 02:25, 25 August 2010 (UTC) NOTE: this article was on a user page until 8/25/2010. so I interpret that to be the start date.--Ishtar456 (talk) 00:12, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
- ALT3 verified, AGF on the references. Nice article, the first bio I have seen with the person's tomb as the main picture, interesting. --NortyNort (Holla) 09:00, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
- Really? I've seen a couple for example John Howland.--Ishtar456 (talk) 12:10, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
- Yea, well I guess above ground tomb. I have seen a few tombstones. I don't think it's bad and fits the article.--NortyNort (Holla) 15:03, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
Tom Stouch
- ... that Tom Stouch is credited with "discovering" baseball player Shoeless Joe Jackson?
Created by Secret (talk). Nominated by Secret (talk) at 01:18, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
Sorry, forgot to sign,--Ishtar456 (talk) 23:43, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
- Added baseball player. Le Deluge (talk) 09:52, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
- Page 12 Secret 14:14, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
- I'm sorry, I still cannot find the page that says "He is best known for "discovering" Shoeless Joe Jackson who played against him while Jackson was in a mill team in Greer, South Carolina in 1907." I cannot verify that the hook is cited without seeing it, and I have searched the book, and I cannot find it. I do not see it on page 12.--Ishtar456 (talk) 23:56, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
- Page 15, my mistake Secret 00:16, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
All I see on page 15 is that Stouch was impressed with his hitting (I'd like to see those blue streaks myself) and never forgot his name. I see nothing about Stouch discovering him.--Ishtar456 (talk) 00:27, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
- Then it says on page 16 that Stouch became manager of the Greenville Spinners keep reading it, he signed Joe Jackson from the mills in baseball termonolgy its discovering a player. Doesn't exactly use "discover" though other books (mostly juvenile fiction) and the Sporting News uses that word. Secret 00:40, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
- date, length, citation... that minor league baseball manager,Tom Stouch signed baseball player Shoeless Joe Jackson to the Greenville Spinners, starting Jackson's profesional career?
- I changed the wording a bit to make it fit.--Ishtar456 (talk) 23:04, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
Better? Secret 00:57, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
- my last edit timed out and I lost it but I said something like: I'm not trying to find the word "discovered", but at least something close to it. Page 16 comes closer, but since the source says everyone knew Joe and what he was capable of, I can't say that it says he "discovered" him. But he did give him a higher paying gig and that was important so I suggested something like: "... that minor league baseball manager Tom Stouch gave baseball player Shoeless Joe Jackson a position that advanced his career?" and use page 16 for the citation.--Ishtar456 (talk) 01:33, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
- What about the hook above, he started his professional career with Stouch. His career consisted of mill teams and such which isn't professional baseball. Thanks Secret 02:15, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
From reading the source, I got the impression that Joe was already getting paid for playing baseball before he was hired by Stouch. That would mean he was already a professional bb player. Am I wrong in that understanding? The way your suggested alternative is written I find that first pronoun "his" ambiguous. There are two men being spoken about-I'm confused and by "his team" -did he own it?, -did he manage it? This is my last ditch suggestion:
- ... that minor league baseball manager Tom Stouch advanced the career of player, Shoeless Joe Jackson by signing him to the Greenville Spinners? (page 16)--Ishtar456 (talk) 03:18, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
- Yes he was getting paid but it's a different story for being professonal and semi-professional. Whatever I'll accept your suggestion. Secret 03:33, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
- add the citation (page 16) to that fact ("by signing him to the Greenville Spinners" )in the article and you will be good to go. Or refer to a "mill team" as semi-pro, and make the distinction between the two teams a little clearer in the article, and add the citation, and you can use the Alt you suggested.--Ishtar456 (talk) 15:02, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
- I added the citation for the alt. Secret 21:38, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
Jordan of Laron
- ... that Jordan of Laron was once excommunicated with the entire regions of Limousin and Aquitaine?
Created by Srnec (talk). Nominated by Piotrus (talk) at 22:40, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
- - ready. Dincher (talk) 01:15, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on August 24
Church of Scientology editing on Misplaced Pages
- ... that the development of the Wikiscanner software by Virgil Griffith in 2007 revealed Church of Scientology editing on Misplaced Pages?
5x expanded by Cirt (talk). Self nom at 04:48, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
- - ready. Dincher (talk) 01:08, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
Southland Corp. v. Keating
- ... that in Southland Corp. v. Keating, the U.S. Supreme Court held that the Federal Arbitration Act covers contracts executed under state law?
Created by Daniel Case (talk). Nominated by Daniel Case (talk) at 15:57, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
George Oliver Plunkett
- ... that on Easter Monday, 1916, George Plunkett waved down a tram in Dublin with his revolver and paid for 52 tickets to get his heavily-armed Irish Volunteers to take part in the Easter Rising?
Created by Philipjelley (talk). Nominated by PFHLai (talk) at 13:31, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
1868 Ecuador earthquakes
- ... that on 26 April each year, the 'El Retorno' festival is held in Ibarra to celebrate the return of the inhabitants in 1872, four years after the Ecuadorian town's destruction in an earthquake?
Created by Mikenorton (talk). Nominated by PFHLai (talk) at 12:04, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
King of the Ring (2000)
- ... that two men, Gerald Brisco and Pat Patterson, wrestled in evening gowns at the WWF's 2000 King of the Ring event?
5x expanded by Richard "Wrestler" Lopez (talk). Nominated by GaryColemanFan (talk) at 15:37, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
- Where's the hook? --PFHLai (talk) 12:05, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
- Sorry, should be fixed now. GaryColemanFan (talk) 15:39, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
Hans Tambs Lyche
- ... that unitarian minister Hans Tambs Lyche was the founder and first editor of the periodical Kringsjaa?
5x expanded by Hauganm (talk), Oceanh (talk). Nominated by Oceanh (talk) at 23:49, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
James Mourilyan Tanner
- ... that the Tanner scale, developed by Dr. James Mourilyan Tanner, measures sexual maturation in adolescents based on size of the genitals and the quantity of pubic hair?
5x expanded by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 22:58, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
- It's always nice to have the subject as the first link :
- ALT1... that Dr. James Mourilyan Tanner developed a scale to measure sexual maturation, based on size of the genitals and the quantity of pubic hair? Le Deluge (talk) 19:31, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
HD 10180
- ... that astronomers have detected evidence of as many as seven planets orbiting the star HD 10180, making it the most populated exoplanetary system known to date?
Created by WolfmanSF (talk), Icalanise (talk), Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 23:46, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
- "most populated"? What astronomical evidence are we talking about? Detection of the number of planets or the quantity of "life sign"? I suspect you mean "the exoplanetary system with the most planets known to date", instead. --PFHLai (talk) 12:12, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
- Let's try ALT1 "that astronomers have detected as many as seven planets orbiting the star HD 10180, making it the exoplanetary system with the most known planets to date?" Alansohn (talk) 02:28, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
Kloster Berge school
- ... that a round tower was built to house the Kloster Berge school after a schoolmaster hanged himself in the cloister previously used for classes?
5x expanded by Yngvadottir (talk). Self nom at 19:42, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
- Article is at AfD but has been completely rewritten and moved; it was Klosterbergen.Yngvadottir (talk) 19:46, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
KRMS
- ... that radio station KRMS in Osage Beach, Missouri, was once partly owned by then-U.S. Senator John Danforth?
5x expanded by Dravecky (talk), Neutralhomer (talk). Nominated by Dravecky (talk) at 08:24, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
Yes, I'm aware that the article currently at AfD but it's snowing over there and I expect resolution shortly. My access to the internet will be spotty over the next couple of days and I didn't to let the nomination window close before this was resolved.- Dravecky (talk) 08:27, 26 August 2010 (UTC)- The article was kept fairly handily so it's cleared for DYK purposes. - Dravecky (talk) 05:28, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
Azerbaijan National Carpet Museum
- ... that the Azerbaijan National Carpet Museum (pictured) has the largest collection of Azerbaijani carpets in the world?
- ALT1:... that the Azerbaijan National Carpet Museum (pictured) was first established in a mosque?
Created by Lava22T (talk). Nominated by Secret Saturdays (talk) at 21:51, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
- Date, length, hook ref and image all OK, I think that ALT1 is the more interesting - where else would you expect to find the world's largest collection of Azerbaijani carpets? Mikenorton (talk) 19:22, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
The war to end war
- ... that the term "The war to end war" was first used to describe World War I?
- ALT1:... that in later years, the term "The war to end war" became associated with Woodrow Wilson, even though he only used it once?
Created by Scolaire (talk). Nominated by Secret Saturdays (talk) at 21:51, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
- I'm flattered, but puzzled. Why pipe it to "The war to end all wars" when the term verifiably was "The war to end war"? Scolaire (talk) 19:45, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
- Because I thought people were more familiar with "The war to end all wars" than "the war to end war". Anyway, I changed it back since you seem to prefer "the war to end war". Hope you like it. Secret Saturdays (talk to me) 22:31, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks. What if we lose the "later years" and the "became" and just have the following? Scolaire (talk) 22:41, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
- ALT2:... that although the phrase "The war to end war", to describe World War I, is often associated with Woodrow Wilson, he himself only used it once?
- Ref#6 states that we tend to believe the phrase resided at the core of Wilson's vocabulary although he used it once, he also didn't coin it too. See ALT3.--NortyNort (Holla) 11:17, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
- ALT3 ... that although the phrase "The war to end war" is often associated with Woodrow Wilson, he himself did not coin it and only used it once?
- Much better! Scolaire (talk) 07:14, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
- Verified. Nice article. Ref #6 was a good one too. I spent awhile reading it. --NortyNort (Holla) 09:33, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks. What if we lose the "later years" and the "became" and just have the following? Scolaire (talk) 22:41, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
- Because I thought people were more familiar with "The war to end all wars" than "the war to end war". Anyway, I changed it back since you seem to prefer "the war to end war". Hope you like it. Secret Saturdays (talk to me) 22:31, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
- I'm flattered, but puzzled. Why pipe it to "The war to end all wars" when the term verifiably was "The war to end war"? Scolaire (talk) 19:45, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
Newton Hills State Park
- ... that an annual pumpkin chunking competition is held in the autumn at Newton Hills State Park in South Dakota?
Created by Dincher (talk). Self nom at 00:52, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
- ALT 1 that the forests of Newton Hills State Park were used as a hideout by Frank and Jesse James after their failed bank robbery in Northfield, Minnesota? Dincher (talk) 01:07, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
- Prefer the original hook just because I've never heard of pumpkin chunking but I have heard of Jesse James - but "in the autumn" could be deleted on WP:ENGVAR grounds? Anything to do with pumpkins tends to happen then anyway. Plus it would be better to lead off with the subject of the hook, thus :
- ALT2... that Newton Hills State Park in South Dakota holds an annual pumpkin chunking competition? Le Deluge (talk) 09:58, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
- I like ALT2. I prefer a hook about Pumpkin Chunking which sounds like a good bit of fun. Dincher (talk) 22:27, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
Scarecrow (wine)
- ... that California cult wine producer Scarecrow is named for its founder's connection to The Wizard of Oz?
Created by Murgh (talk). Self nom at 23:33, 24 August 2010 (UTC)
- The sentence that say that 800 cases are produced annually is not supported by ref 3 which says about 400, if you can either change it to 400 or provide a source for the 800, then this will ready to go, as date, length and hook ref are fine. Mikenorton (talk) 18:52, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
- Yes. One ref says 470 (2003 vintage), another 800 (2005 vintage), and the third approximates 400 cases, so I try another solution offering the 400-800 range with all sources. How does that work? MURGH 20:51, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
Aqueduct of the Gier
- ... that the Aqueduct of the Gier (pictured) was one of four Roman aqueducts supplying Lugdunum (Lyon, France)?
Created by Wetman (talk). Self nom at 22:05, 24 August 2010 (UTC)
- Date, length ok. Pic ok. Hook checked in google books. -- Zoeperkoe (talk) 04:43, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
Lynching of Laura and Lawrence Nelson
- ... that Laura Nelson and her son, Lawrence (Laura Nelson pictured) were two of 4,743 people lynched in the United States between 1882 and 1968?
- ... that the father of Oklahoman folk singer Woody Guthrie attended the lynching of Laura Nelson and her son Lawrence (Laura Nelson pictured) in May 1911?
Created by SlimVirgin (talk). Nominated by SlimVirgin (talk) at 20:00, 24 August 2010 (UTC)
- I am a newbie in this topic, thus forgive my naive questions/comment: (i) Laura Nelson pictured strikes me odd next to this photo. (ii) The article says "4,743 people lynched in the United States between 1882 and 1968" thus why those two individuals were selected to its name and focus? Shouldn't the article cover a wider scope? (don't know if such article already exists on WP, e.g. Lynching in the United States)? In other words, I have doubts this event is notable for an individual article. Materialscientist (talk) 23:25, 24 August 2010 (UTC)
- I've considerably expanded the article further since SV nominated it. It certainly is notable - apart from being the subject of considerable coverage in multiple sources and a significant controversy at the time, it also prompted a number of protest songs from the singer Woody Guthrie, whose father Charley participated in the lynching. -- ChrisO (talk) 00:27, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
- MS, the article is about the lynching of Laura and Lawrence Nelson, so I'm not sure what you mean about expanding the topic. That is the article subject (a new article), and one of the facts from the article has been proposed for DYK, because the fact itself is generically interesting. SlimVirgin 17:32, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
- In case the concern is over the hook, I've suggested an alternative hook which highlights a unique aspect of the case that ties in with a widely known figure in American culture. From my own experience, I've found that DYKs with hooks that present an unexpected fact tend to be quite effective. -- ChrisO (talk) 21:53, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
- We don't know that he was involved though. He may just have been one of the onlookers the next day. SlimVirgin 22:41, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
- The source says "attended" so I changed it to that. SlimVirgin 22:45, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
Minnesota Mr. Basketball
- ... that Kevin Noreen, current Minnesota Mr. Basketball, is the highest scoring basketball player in Minnesota high school history?
Created by Editorofthewiki (talk). Nominated by Editorofthewiki (talk) at 20:08, 24 August 2010 (UTC)
- Note: This is the move to mainspace date. ~EDDY ~ 20:08, 24 August 2010 (UTC)
- Verified. --NortyNort (Holla) 10:04, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
St John the Baptist's Church, Stanwick
- ... that the redundant Church of St John the Baptist, Stanwick, North Yorkshire, (pictured) stands within the earthworks of a settlement originating in the early Iron Age?
Created by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 13:22, 24 August 2010 (UTC)
- Verified. Nice interesting article.--NortyNort (Holla) 08:29, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
Mickell Gladness
- ... that Mickell Gladness once recorded 16 blocks which set the NCAA Division I men's basketball single game record?
Created by Jrcla2 (talk). Self nom at 04:02, 24 August 2010 (UTC)
1956 Maryland Terrapins football team
- ... that the 1956 Maryland Terrapins lost players to the military draft and jaundice, and The Baltimore Sun called the head coach and quarterback "the biggest fall guys in college football"?
Created by Strikehold (talk). Nominated by Strikehold (talk) at 03:37, 24 August 2010 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on August 23
Mikołaj Błociszewski
- ... that Mikołaj Błociszewski was the Polish negotiator in the diplomatic negotiations whose failure led to the Polish–Lithuanian–Teutonic War?
Created by Camdan (talk). Nominated by Piotrus (talk) at 19:32, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
Matt Striebel
- ... that Matt Striebel ranks eighth on the Princeton Lacrosse career assists list and eleventh on the Princeton soccer career assists list.
5x expanded by TonyTheTiger (talk). Nominated by TonyTheTiger (talk) at 02:43, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
- - is fine for DYK as far as length, date and refs go, but is he notable? Not much of a lacrosse fan, but his stats don't seem to be overly impressive. Dincher (talk) 23:12, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
Parke Lane Road-Thorofare Canal Bridge
- ... that the Parke Lane Road Bridge (pictured) is a rare cantilevered concrete arch, with two independent half-arches supporting a center slab rather than the full arch of the traditional arch bridge?
Created by Andrew Jameson (talk). Nominated by Andrew Jameson (talk) at 20:10, 23 August 2010 (UTC)
- Verified. But don't you have an image you could add? Gatoclass (talk) 02:19, 24 August 2010 (UTC)
- I added an image for your consideration. Unfortunately, although I think it illustrates the bridge well, it doesn't illustrate the arch construction referred to in the hook. Andrew Jameson (talk) 11:09, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
- Hmmm, well there was a nice image of the arch in the article before, presumably it was deleted because of copyright problems. I agree that the image you have provided is unfortunately neither illustrative nor interesting. Gatoclass (talk) 12:12, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
Woodlawn, Schenectady, New York
- ... that Schenectady, New York's Woodlawn neighboorhood makes up 22.5% of the city's land area, but generates only 17.9% of the city’s property tax revenue?
Created by Camelbinky (talk). Self nom at 19:31, 23 August 2010 (UTC)
Sam Mills (company)
- ... that the name Sam Mills was used by both a former American football linebacker and a Romanian company?
Created by Bine Mai (talk). Self nom at 17:31, 23 August 2010 (UTC)
- The topics are completely unrelated and it is no suprise someone should share such a common name, so at the very least you should come up with an alt hook. Another problem is that the article is almost entirely devoid of independent sources, I would like to see a couple more in there. Gatoclass (talk) 02:31, 24 August 2010 (UTC)
- ALT 1... that the Sam Mills company produces around 2,400 tonnes of dried pasta monthly in around 30 shapes and sizes?
- Still not very interesting. I would say the only interesting or notable thing about this company would be the fact that it supplies 40% of the Romanian corn pasta market, so would go with that as a hook. Gatoclass (talk) 12:23, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
- ALT 2... that the Sam Mills company supplies 40% of the Romanian corn pasta market?
2010 Manila hostage crisis
- ... that the hostage-taker in the 2010 Manila hostage crisis was named as one of the Ten Outstanding Policemen of the Philippines in 1986?
Created by Howard the Duck (talk). Nominated by Howard the Duck (talk) at 17:14, 23 August 2010 (UTC)
- Note that this "might" make it to WP:ITN: if it does, perhaps it can be added once it falls off the ITN list? –HTD (ITN: Where no updates but is stickied happens.) 18:05, 23 August 2010 (UTC)
- Sorry, ITN articles are ineligible. It was ITN on 23 Aug 10.--NortyNort (Holla) 10:47, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
Carrier Strike Group Ten
- ... that Carrier Strike Group Ten can trace its organizational lineage to Destroyer Flotilla Two created during World War I by the U.S. Navy?
Created by Marcd30319 (talk). Nominated by Marcd30319 (talk) at 14:57, 23 August 2010 (UTC)
Toilet water
... that Napoleon set in place in the early nineteenth century the observance that men's toilet water had to be only a citrus or "woody" scent, which wasn't changed until the 1960s?
Created by Doug Coldwell (talk). Self nom at 14:24, 23 August 2010 (UTC)
Note to approving editor: I have NOT withdrawn the submission, but just withdrew the original hook and substituted ALT1 in its place.--Doug Coldwell 16:40, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
- ALT1 ... that King of France Louis XIV (1638-1715) used a concoction of scents called "heavenly water" to perfume his shirts with toilet water.--Doug Coldwell 20:40, 23 August 2010 (UTC)
- As of now, the article has under 1,100 characters of prose, short of the required 1,500. The prose in the bulleted comparison is not counted as prose. You can consider putting that text into paragraph form or adding additional material to meet the minimum. Alansohn (talk) 20:28, 23 August 2010 (UTC)
- Changed bulleted comparison and made as prose of one paragraph. Should be over 1,500 now. --Doug Coldwell 20:40, 23 August 2010 (UTC)
- Toilet water = eau de toilette = perfume. I'm not sure that toilet water is suitably distinct from perfume to merit it's own article. The sourcing is not particularly strong either. Smartse (talk) 16:39, 24 August 2010 (UTC)
- Concern of image = changed to image of patent for a bottle for holding toilet water. Changed again to a picture I took.--Doug Coldwell 10:53, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
- In the extensive research I have done on this topic, I have found many sources that definitely destinguish between the 3 main alcohol based perfumes. This is described under the section "Types of alcohol based perfumes" in the article. While toilet water = eau de toilette, it is not pure perfume. Perfume has a mixture of about 10-20% perfume oils, where Toilet water only has 2 to 6 percent of some type of perfume oil - definitely weaker. Also it is usually applied ONLY directly to the skin, where perfume would go on clothing and sometimes skin. Toilet waters cost much less than perfume. There are distinct definitions for "toilet water" (i.e. 'eau de toilette' from online dictionary where perfume is perfume definition)). Of the three styles of these perfume types, perfume and eau de Cologne, had an article already and Toilet water (eau de toilette) didn't have until I recently wrote up an article on it. Traditionally eau de Cologne is citrus scent based and is a man's fragrance. Toilet water does NOT have these specifications as a tradition. Also others talk of the difference between the three as is used in Reference #8. I have an inline Reference on every line, however IF you need additional References I can get them. Presently there are 19 inline References and 7 book sources. IF an inline Reference or book source is not satisfactory, I can replace it. Which ones are not satisfactory? Does this answer your concerns IF Toilet water deserves an article?--Doug Coldwell 18:10, 24 August 2010 (UTC)
- The American druggist and pharmaceutical record, Volume 63 makes a definite distinction between perfume and "toilet water" here and The Scientific American cyclopedia of formulas shows a difference between perfume and toilet water here.--Doug Coldwell 18:49, 24 August 2010 (UTC)
- Reference #5 in the lede gives reference as defined for scientists in a perfumery lab between "Colognes, Perfumes, Scents, & Toilet Waters" in Glenn Poch's Bottle Collecting Newsletter 15 in their section Distinguishing Colognes, Perfumes, Scents, & Toilet Waters. It follows very close to the other source References given. Toilet water and perfume are not the same thing as that article explains.--Doug Coldwell 19:13, 24 August 2010 (UTC)
- I am not entirely sure if the two terms are synonyms, but your two links are totally consistent with them being synonyms. What is more, Misplaced Pages, as an encyclopedia (not a dictionary) covers closely related topics together in a single article. If there is a serious demarcation problem between toilet water and perfume, treating both in a single article might well be the best approach. Hans Adler 19:56, 24 August 2010 (UTC)
- I notice that perfume and eau de Cologne are two different articles. Toilet water is the third in this group, that while has a pleasing smell, is definitely different - like eau de Cologne is from perfume. In Nigel Groom's book The new perfume handbook he describes "Toilet Water" on page 329. He talks of Hungary Water and Florida Water being examples of Toilet Water, just like I described in my article. There are many differences between perfume and Toilet Water and it warrents an article to explain this. Looking at "Category:Incense" there are some 49 pages - not all in one article, but 49 distinct articles describing each one, even though they are similiar. Agarwood is different than Sandalwood, although similiar have definite different characteristics. Both are fragrant woods, but both have different articles. Not all flowers are grouped into one article, since each flower is distinctly different even though they smell perfumery.--Doug Coldwell 20:32, 24 August 2010 (UTC)
- It looks to me like there are over 200 articles related to flowers. Within that there are Azalea and Rhododendron - basically the same genus, however two different articles. In the Rhododendron article are listed over a dozen different types of Rhododendrons, all different articles - although basically the same flower types. There are definite differences and therefore different articles - just like there are differences in perfume, eau de cologne and toilet water, therefore toilet water is justified in having an article by itself. There are plenty of references to show this consisting of 23 book sources and 47 inline references.--Doug Coldwell 21:12, 24 August 2010 (UTC)
- I am not entirely sure if the two terms are synonyms, but your two links are totally consistent with them being synonyms. What is more, Misplaced Pages, as an encyclopedia (not a dictionary) covers closely related topics together in a single article. If there is a serious demarcation problem between toilet water and perfume, treating both in a single article might well be the best approach. Hans Adler 19:56, 24 August 2010 (UTC)
Addiction to ether consumption
- ... that diethyl ether used to be consumed recreationally not only by drinking or inhalation, but also by pouring it into one's ear?
Created by Ouro (talk). Self nom at 12:45, 23 August 2010 (UTC)
- Content looks legit but has no inline cites. Also needs to be internationalized per the tag, which should be easy enough to do. Gatoclass (talk) 02:47, 24 August 2010 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on August 22
Heu-Aktion
- ... that soon after the creation of the Heu-Aktion, the systematic kidnapping of Polish children by Nazi Germany began?
Created by MyMoloboaccount (talk). Nominated by Piotrus (talk) at 19:25, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
- - ready. Dincher (talk) 00:32, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
Unhyeongung
- ... that Unhyeongung (Unhyeon Palace), known as Unhyeongung Royal Residence, is the site of the Royal Wedding Ceremony, a reenactment that takes place in the spring and fall every year in Seoul South Korea, of King Gojong and Empress Myeongseong’s (Queen Min) Royal Wedding Ceremony that took place on the grounds of Unhyeon Palace on March 21, 1866?
5x expanded by Steve46814 (talk). Nominated by Steve46814 (talk) at 20:29, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
- Pls trim the hook to 200 or fewer characters long. It's 346 characters long now. --PFHLai (talk) 04:00, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
- ALT 1... that Unhyeongung (Unhyeon Palace) in Seoul South Korea is the site of the twice yearly reenactment of King Gojong and Queen Min's Royal Wedding Ceremony that took place here in 1866?
- Not 5x expanded, 2.3x (1266 characters on 21 Aug, 2962 characters when I checked just now.) Please see the DYK rules if you haven't already.--NortyNort (Holla) 10:40, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
Wine humour
- ... that Cat's Pee on a Gooseberry Bush and Goats Do Roam are examples of wine humour?
Created by Colonel Warden (talk). Self nom at 13:03, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
- Verified. Cool hook and article. AGF on the pay-to-read reference. --NortyNort (Holla) 09:54, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
- More proof needed in article to establish the fact that the term "Wine humour" or "wine humor" meets Misplaced Pages notability guidelines? A search using the term on Google throws up no news stories and only one book "Vintage humor for wine lovers". Is this enough? Shadygrove2007 (talk) 13:30, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
Bob Latshaw
- ... that Bob Latshaw managed minor league baseball for eight seasons, though he only managed three seasons completely?
Created by Alexsautographs (talk). Nominated by Alexsautographs (talk) at 00:36, 23 August 2010 (UTC)
- date
- just over 1500 characters seems too short to me.
- the hook is not in the citation, but it can be inferred from the information there. Not sure if that is sufficient.--Ishtar456 (talk) 02:28, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
Amelia Van Buren
- ... that American photographer Amelia Van Buren was the subject of one of Thomas Eakins' most famous paintings (pictured)?
Created by Howcheng (talk). Self nom at 17:47, 22 August 2010 (UTC)
- Wouldn't it make more sense to use the image of the painting? Gatoclass (talk) 03:43, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
- That's a possibility, but since the article is about her, I thought the photo of the person was better. howcheng {chat} 16:22, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
- Wouldn't it make more sense to use the image of the painting? Gatoclass (talk) 03:43, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
- I think if you mention "one of Thomas Eakins' most famous paintings", people are going to expect to see the painting. I certainly did, and I was quite confused when I found that I appeared to be looking at a photograph by Thomas Eakins. So I think to avoid confusion it would be better to use the painting. Gatoclass (talk) 12:55, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
- OK, sure. Changed (and BTW is anyone going to come and verify this?). howcheng {chat} 19:56, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
- The last sentence in the first section has no citation and that is the hook. While you're waiting for your hook to be verified, feel free to help verify some other nominations here. As you can see, there is a big backlog.--NortyNort (Holla) 09:51, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
- OK, sure. Changed (and BTW is anyone going to come and verify this?). howcheng {chat} 19:56, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
- I think if you mention "one of Thomas Eakins' most famous paintings", people are going to expect to see the painting. I certainly did, and I was quite confused when I found that I appeared to be looking at a photograph by Thomas Eakins. So I think to avoid confusion it would be better to use the painting. Gatoclass (talk) 12:55, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
Powership
- ... that a newly constructed powership, a floating power plant capable of generating 144 MW of electricity, currently supplies Basra in south-eastern Iraq.?
Created by CeeGee (talk). Self nom at 15:49, 22 August 2010 (UTC)
- A few points, firstly the history section - the first paragraph should probably be removed as it is about a power barge, not a powership. The second paragraph needs a reference. Then the hook needs to be directly mentioned in prose in the article, it doesn't currently say that there is one in Basra, or what power it is (although it is stated at Powership#In_use). I've rearranged the hook slightly so it reads better. Smartse (talk) 16:06, 24 August 2010 (UTC)
- 1st: Yes, the vessel is a power barge. However, she was a self-propelled ship before and was turned in to a barge after removal of her machinery. I mentioned her for the reason that one should not confuse a power barge from a vessel, which looks like a ship. I guess there must be a place in an article also for the counter-piece. Besides, this point is not subject of the hook.
- 2nd: OK. There is no explicit reference to that both powerships, however they are wikilinked to articles in the en:WP, where they are well referenced. Do we need in that circumstance referencing? Besides, these are also not the subject of the hook.
- 3rd: I see that not every one can understand at sight that the mentioned ship has 144 MW power and was stationed in Basra, even though all that information is given in the article, maybe indirectly. I rewrote that passage in conformity with the hook.
- Thanks a lot indeed for posting a note in my tlak page.CeeGee (talk) 18:26, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
- I think the article needs some additional work in terms of grammar etc. before it should appear on the main page. Zoeperkoe (talk) 04:04, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
- Can you specify where?CeeGee (talk) 06:03, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
- For the grammar I have to take a closer look (for which I don't have time right now, but a few other things I noted with this article are (some of which, though, are not necessary for DYK but they add up to the overall picture of this article being not (yet) suitable for appearance on the main page):
- -Note 1 refers to another wikipedia article; that should be fixed because Misplaced Pages does not cite itself.
- -Things like "a renowned international certification agency with unique experience " sound like an advert and certainly do not reflect a neutral POV.
- -better wikilinks; i.e. first occurrence of MW instead of last, wikilink US Navy, etc.
- Further, given the close similarity of powerships to power barges (especially since your article deals with power barges as well), wouldn't it be better to merge the two? Can someone else have a look at this as well? -- Zoeperkoe (talk) 16:06, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
- 1. You need to decide whether it is or isn't a power barge. I'd just leave it out if it is ambiguous if I was you. Done
- 2. Yes, we need at least one inline reference per paragraph, try looking in the linked articles to find a suitable reference to include in the article. Done
- 3. Thanks.
- 4. The advantages section needs attention - what are these advantages compared to? Powerbarges, normal powerstations or something else? The 4th almost definitely needs to go. DoneSmartse (talk) 19:13, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
- The history section still needs work. After reading the reference for the USS Hoel it says that it was a powerbarge, as it had to be towed there. The Saranac does seem to be a powership, so I think that can stay but the rest should go. Smartse (talk) 11:41, 28 August 2010 (UTC) DoneCeeGee (talk) 11:53, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
Patrol 35, Tsagaan Khass
- ... that both Patrol 35, based in Israel, and Tsagaan Khass, based in Mongolia, are openly neo-Nazi organizations?
Created by Stonemason89 (talk). Nominated by Stonemason89 (talk) at 05:13, 22 August 2010 (UTC)
- According to its article, Patrol 35 no longer exists (which would make the hook incorrect). In addition, there doesn't appear to be a specific statement in the Tsagaan Khass article, supported by a reference, that says it is openly neo-Nazi. Maybe a different hook - perhaps something about how the second organization justifies its use of the swastika symbol? --Demiurge1000 (talk) 09:45, 22 August 2010 (UTC)
- Hmm I just noticed neo-Nazi is indeed what the one source for that article calls Tsagaan Khass - although with it having considerable potential for controversy, I wonder if a single source is enough? (That position also raises questions about its notability) --Demiurge1000 (talk) 09:51, 22 August 2010 (UTC)
- Maybe change "are" in the hook to "are or were" in order to dispel the present/past tense issues? Also, there are other sources available for Tsagaan Khass, but many of them are in non-English languages (particuarly Mongolian, understandably.) Perhaps a Mongolian-speaking Wikipedian would be able to help out. Stonemason89 (talk) 16:28, 22 August 2010 (UTC)
- Note that Patrol 35 is being reviewed for possible deletion. Shiva (Visnu) 17:48, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
- And is trending towards keep. Stonemason89 (talk) 00:53, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
- Has been closed as keep. Stonemason89 (talk) 17:09, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
Greater Bangladesh
... that former Governor of Assam S.K. Sinha linked illegal immigration from Bangladesh with a design to absorb the Indian Assam into a "Greater Bangladesh"?
Created by S h i v a (Visnu) (talk). Nominated by S h i v a (Visnu) (talk) at 05:10, 22 August 2010 (UTC)
- Pls trim the hook to 200 or fewer characters long. It's 218 characters long now. --PFHLai (talk) 05:01, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
- Done, Shiva (Visnu) 17:46, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
- I'd say that the article has some serious POV issues. The article is based on a rather fringy theory that the Bangladeshi govt is pursuing a massive settling scheme for the purpose of territorial expansion. However, it only identifies two very marginal organizations by name. I'll post a comment on the article talk page later, explaining more in detail. --Soman (talk) 04:42, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
- I disagree - (a) it is not "fringe" especially since it is featured in a report to the Indian President by the Governor of Assam, as well as other reliable sources that are used as references. (b) the article does not say that the Bangladeshi government itself is responsible for any such scheme. (c) it is part of the wider issue of Illegal immigration in India. (b) the article itself does not have biased language. (d) "Marginal organisations" - a political concept as such does not need open endorsement from large political/terrorist groups to exist legitimately. Shiva (Visnu) 01:02, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
- The article is at best original research, but it looks more like a fringe POV theory. The references are also used in a misleading manner: for example, "Advocates of a "Greater Bangladesh" seek the expansion of Bangladeshi hegemony in Northeastern India" is supported by ref 1,2,3, but at least ref 2 does not quote any such "advocates", rather the article only mentions allegations by Indian sources about the existence of the concept. I can't verify ref #1 and #3 (since they are conveniently offline sources), but in any country, there are right wing politicians creating similar allegations about a neighbor conspiring about "Greater X". The entire article is based on a topic based on allegations by a few politicians. Besides synthesizing bits and pieces of information from the history of India and Bangladesh, and mentioning a few fringe theories put forward by politicians, there is no strong evidence that such a concept exists and is advocated by any major players or Bangladesh government. This is not fit to be an article, let alone a DYK. It's simply OR and Synthesis of unrelated facts, along with POV.
- Off topic: isn't Gyan publishing house the same one which plagiarized a whole bunch of articles from Misplaced Pages and created uncredited compilations such as the "Encyclopedia of India, Pakistan, and Bangladesh"? (See this). I'm not saying the book in ref #1 is dubious, just that the book is not written by any well known political theorist .... it's not a reliable source, and is published by a questionable publishing company. --Ragib (talk) 00:15, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
- Courtesy of Google Books, I checked out ref #1,, where "Greater Bangladesh" is mentioned only 4 times in total. (plus once in the glossary). Among the 4 mentions of this, 1 quoted the phrase from a petition filed in a court of India.(pg 368). Pg 335 is about allegations from BJP, a right wing political party.Page 180 claims the concept to be an obscure militant group's "aim". Finally, page 520 mentions one Sadiq Khan and Abdul Momin to be the advocates of the idea ... none of them are well known political analysts or columnist at all. Ref #3 quotes Sadiq khan's 1991 article on Holiday, where the Khan talked about population and manpower exports and migrations, rather than creating a "Greater Bangladesh". Once again, Khan is not notable at all in Bangladesh as a "intellectual", and misquoting a 1991 article by Khan in his own weekly magazine does not indicate the concept of "Greater Bangladesh" is anything other than the imagination or political rhetoric of right wing Indian politicians. --Ragib (talk) 00:36, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
- I find Ragib's points to be quite subjective and lacking evidence themselves. "Gyan Publishing" - that discussion doesn't seem to offer any real consensus that these publishers are inherently unreliable. I must point out that the company has existed since 1984-85 and has done a lot more publishing than the books in question - , long before the inception of Misplaced Pages. Until there is a community-wide consensus and firm decision that this publisher is not a reliable source, I am not prepared to accept the argument that any book from it is a problem. "none of them are well known political analysts or columnist at all." - that statement is quite subjective, and I think a host of reliable and political analyists reputable in academic circles would fall under that category. "Khan is not notable at all in Bangladesh" - a sweeping opinion, based on what? Again - Muslim United Liberation Tigers of Assam - identifying it as an "obscure militant group", when there is evidence of its involvement in terrorist attacks already, is not appropriate itself.
- The Governor of Assam reporting to the Indian President is not a right-wing Indian political source, and all statements in the article are presented with sufficient language that points them out as allegations, not established facts. The Bangladeshi government is denying everything (stated in article), even the existence of an illegal immigration problem, so I don't know if there is a whole para needed to describe that POV. To be clear, apparently the Arakan province of Burma is also involved in the design, so it doesn't just concern India.
- I have found 2 new references that again use "Greater Bangladesh" - "Bengal Borderland: Beyond nation and state in Bangladesh" by Willem van Schendel, pages 233-34, "Religion and social conflict in South Asia" by Bardwell Smith, pages 73-74. Shiva (Visnu)
- Here is what I propose - if an independent reviewer here finds a problem based on WP:DYK policy, with my arguments here, then I will withdraw the DYK nomination w/o hesitation. I don't have a problem with that - I don't covet DYK credit and I don't want any article appearing on DYK if there is a genuine problem involved. I specifically request the reviewer to tell us what exactly makes it problematic. If the reason is serious, we can just take the entire matter to the article talkpage and/or WP:INB and sort it out. This page is not the one for carrying out a lengthy discussion, especially since its current size keeps freezing up my browser and takes an eternity to come up (and I have FiOS for God's sake !!!) :)
- There is one thing though - I do take exception at the use of "conveniently off-line sources". That connotes some intention to deceive, and I would take offense to that if Ragib is actually under that impression. How would you sir, feel if I said you are objecting because you are Bangladeshi yourself and taking personal offense at the possibility of elements in your country being involved in this design? It is true that I may not have evaluated the data through deeply enough, but several of those sources are available from Google books online - I guess I just didn't think it necessary to add the url in {{cite book}} if all publication details were provided anyway. Shiva (Visnu) 05:41, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
I see no reason why I should not comment on the POV nature of this Original-research piece. Anyway, I hereby withdraw the word "conveniently" if that offends you, thanks to Google books, I found the book (and also showed that your claim of the book being a reference is false).
I will be happy to tell you what is wrong with the article, it is a hoax. There is no such concept promoted by mainstream media, mainstream intellectuals, or any government. This article is actually a good candidate for AFD due to original research, falsification of references, and synthesis.
Now, let's go back to the 2 "new" references you claim to unearth. The latter one, by Smith, mentions the phrase "Greater Bangladesh" only once, in a completely different context. Unsurprisingly, the first reference by van Schendel has a total of 3 mentions of the phrase in the book (and one in the glossary). Page 233 merely states that there were many in India who assumed the idea of greater Bangladesh. Page 352 is actually a rephrasing of the same text (i.e., "some saw ..."). Finally, page 196 is referring to the letter by Assam Governor.
It is no surprise that there are an utter lack of references in the article, because the article is a hoax. I have pointed out that there are lack of reliable references other than personal opinions (sans any objective proof) or quotes. As for the comment on Khan and Mumin, I'd be happy if you can prove they are important and influential political commentators / pundits from Bangladesh :D. Good luck with that!!
Based on my above comments and previous comments, I strongly oppose the DYK of this article (based on policies including (WP:V, WP:NPOV, WP:RS, WP:UNDUE). If the issue was at least given coverage by some well known sources, there would be a possibility to consider the article. But that seems unlikely.
Finally, it is NOT my duty to provide proofs against the fallacies and problems of the article ... whoever adds questionable and NPOV, non-RS information needs to back it up with reliable sources. That is, it is you who needs to show this is not a hoax or a fringe theory, rather a well-known theory promoted by notable mainstream people/groups. So far, you have randomly picked books where the topic is barely mentioned (once or twice or 3 times only, in the passing, in 500+ page books!!) --Ragib (talk) 06:57, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
- Please calm down - there is no need to get heated or sarcastic about this. I could offer another rebuttal, but I am not going to aggravate tensions. I respect what you have to say, but I disagree - it is by no means certain that what you are claiming is correct - that I cannot accept until an independent opinion is given. As per what I have said and WP:3O, I will be satisfied to have the opinion of at least one independent editor here - if he/she concurs that there is a real problem according to WP:DYK rules, then I shall withdraw the article nomination. I have no further comment to make for now.
- I request the DYK reviewers here to please offer your opinion on this thread. Shiva (Visnu) 08:14, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
- Hello. I just checked the booklinks here. And, I believe Willem van Schendel has quite an appropriate view on this:
"While some borderlands were doing a roaring business in assisting international migrants, the Indian narrative of infiltration began to point to an ominous future of anti-Bangladeshi pogroms. Extreme proponents of this line advocated not only expulsion of Bangladeshis from India, but also territorial annexation of Bangladeshi territory. ‘Capture one or two districts in Bangladesh, acquire space and send those infiltrators there’, advocated an influential politician in 2003. At the same time, there were many in India who assumed that the state of Bangladesh itself was pursuing an evil territorial design; seeking Lebensraum for its teeming population and ultimately usurping Indian territory in order to establish a Greater Bangladesh. However, it was not the Bangladesh government so much as individual migrants who were demonized and held responsible. The narrative of infiltration emphasized the supposedly free choice of individual actors, and hence the culpability of individual immigrants who were in a national space where they were not authorized to be." (Willem van Schendel, The Bengal borderland: beyond state and nation in South Asia)
- Looks like the whole idea of a "Greater Bangladesh" conspiracy is a figment of imagination of a few influential Indian politicians. If pushing that doesn't represent POV-pushing, I don't know what does. Sorry for the conclusion, but it looks like an obvious conclusion from here.
- BTW, the other book by Bardwell L. Smith discusses a Greater Bangladesh and a de-facto Bangladesh briefly in context of language, and compares the ideas of keeping it separate from India or merging it into India. In that line probably some one can come and claim that Greater Bangladesh is an Indian scheme to usurp Bangladeshi national space. That would be as sad a synthesis as the existing POV in the article Greater Bangladesh. Aditya 09:15, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
- Another editor has just nominated this article for deletion. - Dravecky (talk) 09:28, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
- As per the opinion of an independent reviewer, I am removing the nomination of this article for DYK. I'll try again if the AfD redeems my points. Shiva (Visnu) 12:39, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
Phule's Company
- ... that in Phule's Company Robert Asprin spoofed the military science fiction genre, even while developing endearing characters?
Created by Sadads (talk). Self nom at 00:54, 22 August 2010 (UTC)
- That's a horrible hook (and I thoroughly enjoyed the first few books) . Come up with something better. DS (talk) 23:42, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
- Do you have a better suggestion, I am kindof limited on sources because of the few reviews available?Sadads (talk) 18:28, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
- I've done some cleanup on this article (I'm an Asprin fan) and improved the referencing a bit. I think this hook might work a bit better.
- ALT1: ... that Phule's Company by Robert Asprin follows the fictional adventures of Willard J. Phule in the Space Legion? -- Dravecky (talk) 21:03, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
- Fine by me, and good cleanup thanks, Sadads (talk) 22:36, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on August 21
Philadelphia Polish American Festival
- ... that Philadelphia Polish American Festival was a part of the revival in Polonia in Philadelphia during the 1970s?
Created by PolAmFest (talk). Nominated by Piotrus (talk) at 04:02, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
- Article tagged orphan and COI. I would assume the COI is user PolAmFest creating an article on the Polish American Festival. --NortyNort (Holla) 10:23, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
Michaela Gigon, Christine Schaffner, Ksenia Chernykh, Adrian Jackson (orienteering), Ruslan Gritsan
- ... that among mountain bike orienteers with multiple world championships gold medals are Michaela Gigon, Christine Schaffner (pictured), Ksenia Chernykh, Adrian Jackson and Ruslan Gritsan?
5x expanded by Oceanh (talk). Self nom at 22:39, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
Scott Bacigalupo
- ... that Lacrosse Hall of Fame electee Scott Bacigalupo won the Ensign C. Markland Kelly, Jr. Award as the NCAA top goaltender three years in a row?
Created by TonyTheTiger (talk). Nominated by TonyTheTiger (talk) at 22:28, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
- Verified. --NortyNort (Holla) 09:43, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
David Morrow (sports)
- ... that lacrosse defenseman and founder of Warrior Lacrosse David Morrow helped designed the titanium lacrosse stick?
Created by TonyTheTiger (talk). Nominated by TonyTheTiger (talk) at 22:28, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
- Verified, I placed "helped" in there. The reference indicated his father was very involved as well.--NortyNort (Holla) 09:40, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
Trevor Tierney
- ... that lacrosse goaltender Trevor Tierney has won an NCAA Men's Lacrosse Championship, a Major League Lacrosse Steinfeld Cup Championship and a World Lacrosse Championship gold medal?
Created by TonyTheTiger (talk). Nominated by TonyTheTiger (talk) at 22:28, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
- I can't find Steinfeld Cup in the article or a team he was on winning it in the Cup's article.--NortyNort (Holla) 12:25, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
- Ref added.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 14:01, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
- Still no mention of the Cup. --NortyNort (Holla) 09:45, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
B. J. Prager
- ... that B. J. Prager has scored overtime game-winning goals in both state high school and national collegiate championship lacrosse games?
Created by TonyTheTiger (talk). Nominated by TonyTheTiger (talk) at 22:28, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
Jon Hess (lacrosse), Chris Massey (lacrosse), Josh Sims & Jesse Hubbard
- ... that Jon Hess, Chris Massey and Jesse Hubbard formed the 1996, 1997 and 1998 national champion Princeton lacrosse potent offense, while Christian Cook led the defense and Josh Sims developed as a midfield scoring threat?
Created by TonyTheTiger (talk). Nominated by TonyTheTiger (talk) at 22:28, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
- Verified but how is that an interesting hook? Secret 14:31, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
- I did a lot of work on the Cook article and don't know how to get it exposed on the main page.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 17:27, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on August 20
Khrunichev State Research and Production Space Center
- ... that the Khrunichev State Research and Production Space Center (pictured), based in Moscow, is one of the world's leading space launch providers?
- ALT1:... that Tatyana Dyachenko daughter of President Boris Yeltsin, worked at Khrunichev State Research and Production Space Center (pictured) until 1994?
- ALT2:... that Khrunichev State Research and Production Space Center (pictured) is responsible for lofting every third kilogram of the world's combined annual satellite payload?
5x expanded by Offliner (talk). Nominated by Offliner (talk) at 16:07, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
- I've added a couple of missing words to the original hook, but
- Ref 1 is a dead link for me and ref 2 (even of I choose July 15) doesn't seem to have some of the things in it that it's supposed to support, e.g. "company currently has an over 30% market share of the global space launch market". Mikenorton (talk) 16:05, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
Mass suicide in Demmin
- ... that in the last days of World War II, the Red Army's arrival in Demmin triggered a mass suicide of several hundred people?
Created by Skäpperöd (talk). Nominated by Skäpperöd (talk) at 09:39, 22 August 2010 (UTC)
- Strong oppose-numerous issues have not been resolved in the article, which now has the attention of several editors pointing out pointing out problems with it. The very hook might be not correct as scholarly sources are at odds with the claim, in addition to the fact that first deaths happened due to Nazi killings There is also evidence that this event is highly politicised by far-right circles in Germany,and editors have mentioned that this needs to be covered and the article needs to avoid giving fuel to those claims. Also issues have been pointed out with sources used to write this article. There is also an RFC opened and ongoing. In other words this article is highly contested and highly controversial in current form. --MyMoloboaccount (talk) 22:03, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
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- Molobo (talk · contribs) aka MyMoloboaccount's opposition has been discussed at length on talk. Whether or not a consensus will be reached for inclusion/exclusion of a right-wing rally into the article (discussion) should not affect the article's DYK nomination. Skäpperöd (talk) 05:50, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
- My opposition? They are at least three other editors concerned about the article's POV problems and the issues within it. The fact that this topic is being exploited by Neonazis and far right in Germany and needs thus to avoid fueling their propaganda is just tip of the iceberg the article. Also as an engaged party, you shouldn't close down disputes you are engaged in as "resolved" since you aren't neutral in the dispute. Plus don't move around my comments. Thank you.--MyMoloboaccount (talk) 12:04, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
- Molobo (talk · contribs) aka MyMoloboaccount's opposition has been discussed at length on talk. Whether or not a consensus will be reached for inclusion/exclusion of a right-wing rally into the article (discussion) should not affect the article's DYK nomination. Skäpperöd (talk) 05:50, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
- The article is well written with good sources, however I would like to see mention in the article that the radical right in Germany is attempting to turn the tragic events of 1945 into modern day neo-Nazi propaganda. We need to point out the radical right is attempting to use the tragedy in Demmin to trivialize the crimes of the Nazi regime. This attempt to exploit the Demmin tragedy is rejected by the vast majority of Germans who are appalled by the crimes of Hitler Germany. Please don't move around my comments. Thank you--Woogie10w (talk) 20:11, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
The article has received a B rating . The discussion about whether or not the far-right rally should be included in the article is here and here and should not impact the article's DYK eligibility. Skäpperöd (talk) 16:37, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
- This is your personal opinion. In addition this source notes a Jewish survivor reporting that suicides started before Red Army entered the town--MyMoloboaccount (talk) 19:17, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
History of Song
- ... that the History of Song with its 496 chapters is the largest of the 24 Histories of Dynastic China?
Created by Philg88 (talk). Self nom at 22:43, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
- Nice hook but the article has no inline citations. --NortyNort (Holla) 10:28, 23 August 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks NortyNort but since the article is about a book it is somewhat self referencing - external references to this work are few and far between hence its absence on Misplaced Pages until now and the lack of inline citations. Best, Philg88 12:02, 23 August 2010 (UTC)
- Yes, I got that idea from the article in general but the hook must be cited and the article should have citations as well. The book itself can't reference its own "Publication process", "Evaluation" and "Later influence" as the sections you have. That is the result of secondary sources, not the primary source (the book) so the book isn't self referencing. I was surprised no one made an article on this as well. --NortyNort (Holla) 12:23, 23 August 2010 (UTC)
- Hook fact uncited in article, remains uncited 8 days after author notified. Indeed, no edits had been made to the article since that notification until I corrected a few typos (including one in the hook fact itself) just now. - Dravecky (talk) 06:17, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
- I've added a ref to the hook fact. I will add another couple if I can find them - few and far between unfortunately. Philg88 00:42, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
- What makes chinaknowledge.de, a single-author self-published "online encyclopedia", a reliable source for Misplaced Pages? - Dravecky (talk) 06:42, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
- I will bow to your superior judgement. Can you read Chinese by the way? If you can you will find that the hook is undisputed according to Chinese sources (including our very own Chinese Misplaced Pages) Philg88 (talk) 09:27, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
- It's not a question of the hook but the references and citations in the article. If it is going to be linked on the main page, it has to be in good standing, defined by the DYK rules.--NortyNort (Holla) 12:46, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
- I will bow to your superior judgement. Can you read Chinese by the way? If you can you will find that the hook is undisputed according to Chinese sources (including our very own Chinese Misplaced Pages) Philg88 (talk) 09:27, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
Special occasion holding area
- Note: Articles nominated for a special occasion should be nominated within five days of creation or expansion as usual (with the exception of April Fools' Day 2011 - see Misplaced Pages:April Fool's Main Page/Did You Know). Also, articles should be nominated at least five days before the occasion to give reviewers time to check the nomination.
For September 5, 14th Sunday after Trinity
Gerlinde Sämann
- ... that soprano Gerlinde Sämann performed with La Petite Bande Bach's cantata for the 14th Sunday after Trinity, Jesu, der du meine Seele, BWV 78?
Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self nom at 21:30, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
For September 13, 15:00 GMT (14:00 UTC), see comment text
Polytechnic of Namibia
- ... that the main campus of the Polytechnic of Namibia includes Elisabeth House (pictured), Windhoek's former obstetric hospital?
5x expanded by Pgallert (talk). Self nom at 08:30, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
- Comment: Okay, here I will request quite an amount of good faith into me: The creator, almost all contributors, and I are affiliated to this institution, either as employees or as students. However, nobody else seems to want to write about it, so here I submit despite a crystal-clear COI. --Pgallert (talk) 08:30, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
- And a Question: On September 13, 15:00 GMT I will present a lecture on Misplaced Pages at the Auditorium Maximum of Polytechnic of Namibia. It would of course be a nice publicity stunt to have the institution mentioned on the main page at that particular day and time. Does Misplaced Pages support something like this? I would believe it is a win-win situation. --Pgallert (talk) 08:30, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
- 5x expansion, date, length and hook verified. I fixed some grammar in the hook and bolded the article name. I see nothing wrong with you being an employee of the Polytechnic, the article is certainly not biased in any way. Todor→Bozhinov 09:04, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
- Nobody objected to the special timing suggestion so far, so I have moved it to the Special Holding Area. --Pgallert (talk) 13:43, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
- (tongue in cheek) - do tell your students that each of them has to write a DYK on their hometown and the Namibian institution has to be an FA in four languages in return for this ginormous favour. Oh and good luck with the lecture. Victuallers (talk) 14:47, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
- :) Thanks, will do. Actually the will write something, see here, and I promised a 100% assignment mark should their contribution make it to DYK. Namibia an FA, that would be something... I'm willing to accept any help. --Pgallert (talk) 15:08, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
- I agree it is win-win and we should help (any others?). I have updated all school articles (not too many) in Winhoek where your poly is Victuallers (talk) 16:59, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
For 31 October, Hallowe'en
- The 2010 Halloween collection has started early. Victuallers (talk) 20:03, 25 August 2010 (UTC)Victuallers (talk) 21:19, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
Ipswich Witchcraft Trial
- ... that the Ipswich Witchcraft Trial has been called the "Second Salem Witch Trial", and may be the last witch trial held in the United States?
Created by Tim1965 (talk). Self nom at 23:17, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
- "May have been the last witch trial", rather. We don't know what will happen in the future -- people do make ridiculous assertions still, and occasionally judges humor them (witness the case of the woman who got a restraining order against David Letterman so that he would stop psychically harassing her). DS (talk) 13:11, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
Euphorbia tithymaloides
- ... that a person can create more of the Devil's Backbone by cutting it off above a joint and putting it in sandy soil?
5x expanded by Tim1965 (talk). Nominated by Tim1965 (talk) at 03:36, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
Veratrum nigrum
- ... that it is not true that the Black False Hellebore is a Hellebore, it is true that it is highly toxic and can easily cause death?
5x expanded by Tim1965 (talk). Nominated by Tim1965 (talk) at 18:46, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
- The hook seems a bit obvious to me - surely the reason it is called a false hellebore is because it isn't a hellebore? Smartse (talk) 20:26, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
- The point is to create a play on words with the title of the plant. It is not a true Hellbore; it is true it can kill you. When it comes to plants, most people probably don't know what the term "false" means (I didn't). So verifying that "false means false" is not just a play on words, it is informative as well (confirming a person's assumptions). - Tim1965 (talk) 03:38, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
- Nah, I'm with Smartse, this hook is just not working for me. And I don't really see the Halloween connection either, unless anything that could kill you is now eligible for Halloween. I don't think we're going to be short. I suggest this goes back to "regular" DYK, and you come up with another hook? Sorry. PS Tim - "Hellebore" is an English word, not a Latin word like Helleborus, so "hellebore" should not be italicised, in DYK or in the article. Le Deluge (talk) 19:13, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
- Hellebore is the genus, and genus and species are italized. - Tim1965 (talk) 23:14, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
Ferocactus latispinus
- ... that the Devil's tongue barrel (pictured) is found in Mexico?
- Comment: I know, a bit lame but has a cool name...Casliber (talk · contribs) 14:42, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
Created by Casliber (talk). Nominated by Casliber (talk) at 14:42, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
- How about: ALT1 ... that the Devil's tongue barrel (pictured) is covered in 4cm long spines?
- It sounds scarier to me. We could maybe make something out of this but saying that it can be killed by Fusarium oxysporum doesn't sound very scary. Another option is to make a stub for Didymium wildpretii using this and then we could have a hook of ALT2 ... that Didymium wildpretii eats the decaying remains of Devil's tongue barrel (pictured)? Smartse (talk) 12:00, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
- Not the easiest material to work with. For hook purposes (eg ALT2) it is probably best called a "barrel of devil's tongues"? A bit of creative Googling came up with PAR 279 of this ref which would allow an example of a site in which it grows in the wild and hence (stretching a bit) :
- ALT3... that Jesus had a barrel of Devil's tongues (pictured)?
- That same ref has a bunch of saints which could be translated into English, and MZ 1239 leaves the tilde off La Cañada... Alternatively you could use the hardiness data to suggest that :
- ALT4... that a barrel of Devil's tongues (pictured) would survive if hell freezes over?
- The Fusarium is tricky, you'd end up playing with "mouldy bottoms" or "butt rot". One little thing, the image relies on recurvus being a synonym for latispinus. I don't doubt that it is, but it probably ought to be reffed - and in any case, it's a bit too obvious an image to accompany a hook that we're struggling to get tricksy with... Le Deluge (talk) 14:23, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
- The book ref lists recurvus as a synonym. The other hooks are more interesting than mine, and yeah I reckon losing the picture will probably help. Casliber (talk · contribs) 14:31, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
- Not the easiest material to work with. For hook purposes (eg ALT2) it is probably best called a "barrel of devil's tongues"? A bit of creative Googling came up with PAR 279 of this ref which would allow an example of a site in which it grows in the wild and hence (stretching a bit) :
Auricularia auricula-judae
5x expanded by J Milburn (talk). Nominated by J Milburn (talk) at 18:24, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
- ALT1... that the Jew's Ear (pictured) is an edible reminder of a suicide? Le Deluge (talk) 19:18, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
For January 1, 2011, Seal of the Federal Bureau of Investigation
- ALT1 ... that the Seal of the Federal Bureau of Investigation represents the courage, valour, strength, cleanliness, truth, high moral standards and high level of motivation expected of FBI agents?
- ALT2 ... that the Seal of the Federal Bureau of Investigation was first used on January 1, 1941 and represents the values, standards and history of the FBI and its agents?
Expanded and self-nominated by ChrisO (talk) 20:50, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
This nomination is a bit of a special case. I originally nominated Seal of the Federal Bureau of Investigation on August 3 following a 5x expansion (see discussion above under #Articles created/expanded on August 3). Everyone accepted that it met the DYK criteria but the nomination was derailed by a political dispute over timing. I've put forward a compromise at User talk:Jimbo Wales#Compromise proposal, which involves passing this DYK now but scheduling its appearance on January 1, 2011, which is 60 years to the day since the seal was first used. This proposal has been generally welcomed so I'm putting it forward here for formal consideration. I'm aware that the timeframe is somewhat longer than would be usual for scheduled DYKs, but in the circumstances I think a some flexibility would be justified. I've put forward two possible hooks: the original one as proposed earlier, and a new alternative tying the DYK in more directly with the date. -- ChrisO (talk) 20:50, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
- Interesting compromise. It completely flipped my opinion of the matter. However, prior to providing said opinion, I'd like some clarification:
Are we nominating this (with whichever hook) sans image as you initially suggested on Jimbo's talk page?
--K10wnsta (talk) 00:39, 14 August 2010 (UTC) - Appended: I see that you removed the image from inclusion in the original nomination, so I'll assume this post-dated nomination would not include the image either. However, this necessitates further clarification:
- Are we excluding the image from this DYK solely because of the recent interaction with the FBI?
--K10wnsta (talk) 01:05, 14 August 2010 (UTC)- In effect yes, but in my view it's a necessary evil if we're to reach a satisfactory compromise on this issue. -- ChrisO (talk) 01:16, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
- - Tentative Even if the motivation behind qualifying this article for DYK was questionable, I think you already achieved not just a satisfactory compromise, but a completely valid and justifiable use for it. In fact, it's use is so valid, refusing to use the image for no other reason than the recent hoobajoo with the FBI is blatantly (chilled) censorship...and I just can't get behind that. If we're going to censor it, we need to go whole hog or don't go at all.
Could we put it up for 'On This Day' to avoid reasoning for exclusion of the image?
--K10wnsta (talk) 01:51, 14 August 2010 (UTC) - No opinion on whether to feature on the future date; however, it would be better if this hook didn't remain on the suggestions page for the intervening months, as it is bound to attract further discussion and the page is unwieldy enough as it is. Espresso Addict (talk) 01:55, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
- Espresso's suggestion may be useful for more than just making this page leaner. A delay in nomination would lend to better perspective for those establishing consensus. In other words, removing it from discussion for a couple months would also put some time between recent events and the article (and hopefully image) being contemplated for a main page feature (unless such a delay would disqualify it from use in DYK section).
--K10wnsta (talk) 02:12, 14 August 2010 (UTC)- Comment This hook should not "disappear" for a few months. It is far better to leave it here to enable a wide input from editors on the issue. I think this is a good compromise that involves common sense, the proposal and special treatment of the timescale fitting nicely under WP:IAR. Mjroots (talk) 13:53, 15 August 2010 (UTC)
- Support ALT2 for use on 1 January, 2011. EdChem (talk) 10:32, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
- Suggest scrapping this troublesome controversial DYK, the user that instigated the issue has also since retired, suggest retiring this idea as well. Off2riorob (talk) 13:17, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
- Would you please stop with your blatant pushing of the issue? Putting this off until January removes all controversy related to it. Silverseren 13:44, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
- Your comment is just a simple personal attack, I have bigger fish to relentlessly pursue than this worthless disruptive DYK. Off2riorob (talk) 14:11, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
- Nothing of what I said was or is a personal attack. I know you greatly dislike ChrisO and myself, but could you please not try and push an already outdated issue? Silverseren 14:42, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
- Interesting compromise. It completely flipped my opinion of the matter. However, prior to providing said opinion, I'd like some clarification:
See also
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