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| Hi NW. It's Friday morning here and I was bored at work so I went ahead took a shot at the script. It was pretty easy (despite how long it took me to figure it out) - up and running . Could probably use some error processing and would be nice to pass parms (like default show/hide) but right now it does exactly what I was hoping for. Any suggestions for improvement are welcome. ] 02:42, 4 June 2010 (UTC) | Hi NW. It's Friday morning here and I was bored at work so I went ahead took a shot at the script. It was pretty easy (despite how long it took me to figure it out) - up and running . Could probably use some error processing and would be nice to pass parms (like default show/hide) but right now it does exactly what I was hoping for. Any suggestions for improvement are welcome. ] 02:42, 4 June 2010 (UTC) | ||
| :You're the best. I'll have to keep a close eye on now. '''<font color="navy">]</font>''' ''(<font color="green">]</font>)'' 02:45, 4 June 2010 (UTC) | :You're the best. I'll have to keep a close eye on now. '''<font color="navy">]</font>''' ''(<font color="green">]</font>)'' 02:45, 4 June 2010 (UTC) | ||
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| Because you have been involved in the recent SPI I am informing you of the arbcom case ] ] (]) 10:09, 4 June 2010 (UTC) | |||
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Indur
You removed the ref i found and asked if watts up had a search function, it does but as it is a blog are we allowed to use it in a blp? mark nutley (talk) 16:36, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
- I added the search result as a ref, can you check it to see it`s all right please mark nutley (talk) 16:39, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
- While it is a blog, it is occasionally acceptable to use blogs and other self-published sources to establish simple, matter of fact things like this. Ideally, one would want to use a secondary source, but I think that this would be fine. An example of an article that I wrote that uses sources like this is Thomas E. Wartenberg. Your reference looks great; I just reformatted it slightly. NW (Talk) 16:44, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
- Excellent, thanks a lot :) mark nutley (talk) 16:50, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
- While it is a blog, it is occasionally acceptable to use blogs and other self-published sources to establish simple, matter of fact things like this. Ideally, one would want to use a secondary source, but I think that this would be fine. An example of an article that I wrote that uses sources like this is Thomas E. Wartenberg. Your reference looks great; I just reformatted it slightly. NW (Talk) 16:44, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
My RFA from a while back
Hello NW, I am trying to slowly but surely address the points for improvement that were brought up at my RFA 3 months ago. In you oppose, you said, "To be quite honest, I was very unimpressed with the quality two of the three GAs you mentioned: The Sea of Monsters and The Titan's Curse. Not only does more information need to be added for the articles to be properly comprehensive, but the formatting and sourcing needs quite a bit of work." I am beginning to work on those to try to alleviate this concern; may you please elaborate on what needs to be done and how I may go about doing it so I can get a better picture about how to improve them? Thanks, Airplaneman ✈ 04:40, 29 May 2010 (UTC)
- I'm not really sure what I was referring to with regards to formatting (perhaps you fixed it already?), but I do believe I remember what I meant by sourcing and comprehensiveness. Literature articles should usually spend a great deal of time talking about both the critical reception and themes of the work. Critical reception is mentioned in both the articles, but only very briefly, while a themes section is nonexistent. If possible, it should be expanded a great deal. I understand that the series is a children's/young adult's series, but if it was a children's best seller for three years, then there is bound to be more out there. NW (Talk) 20:12, 29 May 2010 (UTC)
- OK, thank you for the suggestions. I'll try to look for more (do you know where?) Airplaneman ✈ 21:01, 29 May 2010 (UTC)
- I'm not really that into modern children's literature, so I really wouldn't know. LexisNexis and JSTOR are always good places to start though. NW (Talk) 22:15, 29 May 2010 (UTC)
- OK, I'll try those. Thanks again, Airplaneman ✈ 22:22, 29 May 2010 (UTC)
- I'm not really that into modern children's literature, so I really wouldn't know. LexisNexis and JSTOR are always good places to start though. NW (Talk) 22:15, 29 May 2010 (UTC)
- OK, thank you for the suggestions. I'll try to look for more (do you know where?) Airplaneman ✈ 21:01, 29 May 2010 (UTC)
File:Michaelashley.JPG
Hi, the file was eligible for the license migration at the time, the bot just didn't approve because it had an OTRS pending, and User:Leonard^Bloom forwarded an email with permission just now but the original email was from before August 2009 and so it was eligible, right? Could you please check? Thank you very much. Hekerui (talk) 09:30, 29 May 2010 (UTC)
- It was licensed under the GFDL on June 30, 2009. I cannot remember what that implies for license integration though; would you care to take a look at it? NW (Talk) 20:06, 29 May 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks. According to Misplaced Pages:Image license migration that means it is eligible for migration because it was uploaded and licensed before August 2009 (and the other conditions are there, too). Regards Hekerui (talk) 20:14, 29 May 2010 (UTC)
- It's been a while, forgive me :) Thanks for taking a look; I couldn't even remember the appropriate page to find this stuff out. NW (Talk) 20:18, 29 May 2010 (UTC)
- Oh, I couldn't either, I always go to {{GFDL}} and the link's there :) Hekerui (talk) 20:27, 29 May 2010 (UTC)
- It's been a while, forgive me :) Thanks for taking a look; I couldn't even remember the appropriate page to find this stuff out. NW (Talk) 20:18, 29 May 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks. According to Misplaced Pages:Image license migration that means it is eligible for migration because it was uploaded and licensed before August 2009 (and the other conditions are there, too). Regards Hekerui (talk) 20:14, 29 May 2010 (UTC)
Request
Is there any way that we could get the article Arlington Ladies moved to the DYK section for tomorrow? Thanks. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 16:13, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
- I moved it to the prep area; if someone else cares to fill the rest of it out, it should be up in 24 hours. NW (Talk) 18:36, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks. I just received word it was moved and will appear tomorrow. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 03:35, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
Scibaby
How do admins seem to know which accounts are sockpuppets, even when they have made only one edit? And do AlexH555 (talk · contribs) and DavidCognito (talk · contribs), of which at least the first was flagged by the abuse filter, look like puppets? I am unfamiliar with Scibaby but have heard of him. PleaseStand 00:36, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
- A lot of the time it is about just getting the feel for an editor's behavioral pattern, backed up by checkuser evidence as necessary. In general, if a new editor jumps into a contested edit war, citing Misplaced Pages policy like the back of their hand in order to act disruptively, it is pretty clear that they are a sockpuppet. The more cynical would call it guess-and-block, but a number of factors do play into it. As for those two accounts you mention, I'm not sure. That's something where checkuser evidence would be helpful. Could you please list those at Misplaced Pages:Sockpuppet investigations/Scibaby if they haven't been listed already? NW (Talk) 00:50, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
- Thank you. Fortunately, both that one and another I found turned out to be unrelated. PleaseStand 21:23, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
DYK prep
Pls check my edits from:
- (del/undel) 13:25, May 31, 2010 (diff | hist) Template:Did you know/Queue/4 (hooks) (top)
- (del/undel) 13:23, May 31, 2010 (diff | hist) Template:Did you know/Preparation area 1 (reload) (top)
- (del/undel) 13:21, May 31, 2010 (diff | hist) Template:Did you know/Preparation area 1 (clear)
- (del/undel) 13:20, May 31, 2010 (diff | hist) Template:Did you know/Queue/4 (botdo)
and ensure I didn't goof anything. Let me know if I did. Thanks. — Rlevse • Talk • 13:27, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
- They look great. NW (Talk) 13:31, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks. — Rlevse • Talk • 13:32, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
- Pls look over my queue loading notes at User:Rlevse/Tools#DYK_submission and see if you can improve them. TKs. — Rlevse • Talk • 13:43, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks. — Rlevse • Talk • 13:32, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
File:Cruise0116.jpg
Hi, can you help with another OTRS question? The uploader added Ticket#2007031010017409 as permission, can you check if that's legit so it can be taken out of the pending category? Hekerui (talk) 19:40, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
- Sure, I updated the template. NW (Talk) 20:58, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
Why was it rejected, no one notified me. I forwarded the rights letter from rights owner. --Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) (talk) 22:17, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
-2010-05-31T22:17:00.000Z-File:Cruise0116.jpg){kind=link}
- Actually, someone did inform you. Check your archives from an email timestamped 03/20/2007 02:38:49. NW (Talk) 22:51, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
Jennifer Korbee 6 09 File
A photo I uploaded with permission from the photographer has been deleted. It was said that documentation was not received for use of this since June 2009. The photographer e-mailed the address provided on this site, providing adequate documentation that would allow this site to use his photo. In regards to the deletion, how many times does permission need to be granted for the photo to remain on Misplaced Pages? I tried to upload the photo again, being that it was deleted for no reason at all, and I am unable to do so because of its deletion history. Is there any way that this could be restored, considering an e-mail was sent, granting permission to this site? Thank you! JennFan24 (talk) 21:41, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
- Do you happen to have a timestamp of when the email was sent? NW (Talk) 22:54, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
- I don't have an exact timestamp, but I do know that it was sent in June 2009, the day of or the day after the photo was originally uploaded. JennFan24 (talk) 22:57, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
- Is there any chance you know the email address of the photographer who sent the email? NW (Talk) 22:59, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
- Being that it's a private e-mail address, I don't feel comfortable posting it; would it be best if I just sent him a message, asking to resend his documentation so the file can be reinstated? JennFan24 (talk) 23:04, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
- That would work, but the easier solution might be to email me his email address. I'll treat the email as confidentially as I would any OTRS email. NW (Talk) 23:42, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
- Being that it's a private e-mail address, I don't feel comfortable posting it; would it be best if I just sent him a message, asking to resend his documentation so the file can be reinstated? JennFan24 (talk) 23:04, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
- Is there any chance you know the email address of the photographer who sent the email? NW (Talk) 22:59, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
- I don't have an exact timestamp, but I do know that it was sent in June 2009, the day of or the day after the photo was originally uploaded. JennFan24 (talk) 22:57, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
UConn law
Oh yeah, thanks! I actually knew a while back, I just hadn't bothered to update my userpage. What are you up to IRL? Staxringold talk 01:57, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
- Not so much, really. If I ever see you on Skype I'll fill in all the boring details ;) By the way, that was a totally subtle hint for you to get on Skype more often. Totally subtle. NW (Talk) 01:58, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
PARARUBBAS
Hi there NUKE, VASCO here,
Wow, this guy - User:Pararubbas, who else - is getting really disgusting, another sock, ANOTHER!!!!!!!! (see here http://en.wikipedia.org/Special:Contributions/POLKJ890), i am a few steps away from losing it, i gotta leave WP, with all my sorrow...
Also, if you note the ever-inpending investigations on him (please see here http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Pararubbas/Archive), you will see that user/admin Satori Son left a note that one account was shut, and IMMEDIATELY he began another!! What, no summaries, no talk(s) with anyone, no nothing and this?!?! And he edits from England, so he has to have (even if a) minimal grasp on the language. Sick bastard (not to mention the neverending supply of anon IP, found another one today - http://en.wikipedia.org/Special:Contributions/92.3.114.49)!!
Sorry for this outburst (seriously, i am sincerely thinking of leaving the site), keep it up, all the best - --Vasco Amaral (talk) 02:53, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
- Seems like Satori Son got to him before I could. Feel free to ask him if I don't seem to be around. I'll ask a checkuser if it is possible to do a larger rangeblock. NW (Talk) 17:01, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
Reply
Hello. I accept the sanctions but wish to pick up a point on my involvement in an article that you highlight. User talk:Polargeo#Administration and Climate Change, thanks Polargeo (talk) 11:25, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
Can you help with enforcement of the 1RR rule in the Gaza flotilla clash page
Hi Nuclear, I'm not really sure of the proper procedure here. Quite recently Ruy_Lopez joined the editing team. Some of his edits seem good, but many are reversing things already discussed in the talk page. I undid one of his changes and told him why and have tried to converse with him on his talk page. I encouraged him to join the discussion and explain why he thought his edits should be made. Instead he seems to be in a bit of an editing war with other users and still has not contributed to the main chat.
Should I escalate this and post to Misplaced Pages:ANI? Or are you the right person to come to for help?
Zuchinni one (talk) 14:46, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
- I might not have time to look into it fully today, so WP:AE looks like a better place to try. NW (Talk) 16:56, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
- Oh, c'mon; I saw no evidence that Maashatra11 was aware of the 1RR restriction -- he hasn't been a longtime editor to the article -- and I warned him of it just minutes before you blocked him. His second revert was undid again, so it's not like he gained anything from it anyway. -- tariqabjotu 19:52, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
- I'm afraid I hadn't seen your post when I blocked. He really should have seen and read the warning given by the edit notice seen when editing the page though. I would be happy to unblock (or allow someone else to do so) if he indicates that he has read and will abide by the 1RR restriction. NW (Talk) 19:55, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
- Aha... when did that get there? I guess I haven't actually been editing the article though. In that case, I endorse the block. -- tariqabjotu 19:59, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
- I'm afraid I hadn't seen your post when I blocked. He really should have seen and read the warning given by the edit notice seen when editing the page though. I would be happy to unblock (or allow someone else to do so) if he indicates that he has read and will abide by the 1RR restriction. NW (Talk) 19:55, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
- Oh, c'mon; I saw no evidence that Maashatra11 was aware of the 1RR restriction -- he hasn't been a longtime editor to the article -- and I warned him of it just minutes before you blocked him. His second revert was undid again, so it's not like he gained anything from it anyway. -- tariqabjotu 19:52, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
revision delete
I do not see how your revision delete of Hipocrite's comments comes under the necessary criteria in any way. I cannot undo it because I am effectively banned from acting as an admin on said page. I know I am an awful stickler for policy. It annoys me sometimes. Put more simply even if this is a good thing in this case I think this sort of decision is the start of a bad thing for wikipedia. Polargeo (talk) 20:46, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
- I'm seeing the revision deletion as a way to prevent a sockpuppeteer from learning more about ways we identify him, along the reasons why TW removed Hipocrite's post in the first place. Feel free to undo my action if you disagree (regardless of any ban you might have), but perhaps you could check with one of the other admins who frequent the page first? NW (Talk) 23:24, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
- I understand and I won't undo it but I think this is a pretty marginal ignore the rules and I don't like censorship unless absolutely necessary, even when you think it may be doing some good. Polargeo (talk) 08:50, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
- Actually I would advise you just unhide the revisions because ATren has had a detailled discussion on User talk:ClimateOracle about how he may have been spotted. Hipocrite is not really revealing anything that has not been revealled anyway. Polargeo (talk) 09:03, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
Done NW (Talk) 11:45, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
- Great, sorry about the dramafest. Polargeo (talk) 15:39, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
- Actually I would advise you just unhide the revisions because ATren has had a detailled discussion on User talk:ClimateOracle about how he may have been spotted. Hipocrite is not really revealing anything that has not been revealled anyway. Polargeo (talk) 09:03, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
- I understand and I won't undo it but I think this is a pretty marginal ignore the rules and I don't like censorship unless absolutely necessary, even when you think it may be doing some good. Polargeo (talk) 08:50, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
Hope I did this right
Hi, I made a report of a possible sockpuppet at what I think was the right page. (of User:Inniverse). Just wanted to give someone who is a SPI clerk a heads up in case I screwed up something. No clue who the sock master is, but the pattern of editing off a new account is really weird, and apparently disruptive. I have no axe to grind on this, just though it worth making a note to someone who might want to check. Montanabw 18:47, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
I wrote an article..
and you deleted it. I'm not mad or anything. I just wanted to know if you liked it just a little. It was about Da Cowz. I mostly wanted to know what you thought about the reasions why it shouldn't be deleted on its talk page.
- I read your article as well as your talk page comments. I just couldn't see how the article made any attempt at meeting WP:CLUB, the notability standard for companies and organizations. NW (Talk) 03:19, 3 June 2010 (UTC)
lol does that mean you hated it?
Impersonation account
I assume someone will be investigating this? Seems like something didn't work as it should here. --MZMcBride (talk) 18:14, 3 June 2010 (UTC)
- I hope so. I'll restart a discussion on the OTRS mailing list; if checkuser hadn't picked up on something there, we probably wouldn't have identified my error. NW (Talk) 20:19, 3 June 2010 (UTC)
UrbanCowboy12's other sock, User:Sabra2
Since Sabra2 is another account named in the SPI (as socking for UrbanCowboy12, whom you blocked for socking), shouldn't that one be blocked too? Thanks. Equazcion 22:47, 3 Jun 2010 (UTC)
- I second this inquiry, forthwith (pretty please?). The accounts have been determined to be confirmed as related by a CU. At the very least, Sabra2 should be blocked yesterday (the IPs are more difficult, I'm sure, as was the intention of the sockmaster). Cheers :> Doc9871 (talk) 09:07, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
Greetings
Greetings NuclearWarfare - I can understand you having removed sundry tags over at Hans Adolf Von Hindennburg but I'm a bit surprised that you also removed the "expert" tag 'cos I had the idea that it would get the attention of folks who actually know something about the subject - if there is anything to know. Curious regards, --Technopat (talk) 22:51, 3 June 2010 (UTC)
- If it's a hoax, the expert tags won't really be able to do very much. In any case, I'm surprised that the tag still exists; I don't think that anyone uses it to find articles to improve. NW (Talk) 01:52, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks for that - I was hoping kinda that there was a group of admins out there who were experts in different subjects for such cases. Sigh! BTW, do admins override an AfD in hoax cases if they consider it a clear case, or do you just let the process reach its logical conclusion? Do first-article hoax editors get final warnings/automatic blocks? Wishful thinking.--Technopat (talk) 06:44, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
- Just saw answer to my 2nd question. Cheers!--Technopat (talk) 06:48, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks for that - I was hoping kinda that there was a group of admins out there who were experts in different subjects for such cases. Sigh! BTW, do admins override an AfD in hoax cases if they consider it a clear case, or do you just let the process reach its logical conclusion? Do first-article hoax editors get final warnings/automatic blocks? Wishful thinking.--Technopat (talk) 06:44, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
Mark-blocked_script.js
Hi. Thanks very much for your script to mark blocked users. I installed it just now, and it immediately paid off, though not in a way I had anticipated — I discovered (to my dismay) that a barnstar I got a few weeks ago had been "awarded" to me by a banned user's sock. I'll admit I was kind of sorry to see that illicit bit of pseudo-recognition go, but your script definitely saved me the embarrassment I would surely have received if someone else had discovered the problem first. Richwales (talk) 00:45, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
- You discover all sorts of interesting things when using it. Reading old RFAs and ArbCom cases in particular is quite interesting. Glad to see that the script is of help to you. Tell your friends ;) NW (Talk) 01:51, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
Hiding recent edit filter tags that have already been rolled back
Hi NW. It's Friday morning here and I was bored at work so I went ahead took a shot at the script. It was pretty easy (despite how long it took me to figure it out) - up and running here. Could probably use some error processing and would be nice to pass parms (like default show/hide) but right now it does exactly what I was hoping for. Any suggestions for improvement are welcome. 7 02:42, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
- You're the best. I'll have to keep a close eye on now. NW (Talk) 02:45, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
Arbcom case
Because you have been involved in the recent SPI I am informing you of the arbcom case Misplaced Pages:Arbitration/Requests#Sock Puppet Standards of Evidence Polargeo (talk) 10:09, 4 June 2010 (UTC)