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GA review

This article is not neutral and is rather opinionated. With sentences such as "Acclaimed for her voice and enormous performing talent", it clearly doesn't deal with the subject in a neutral. Let the facts speak for themselves. Other examples of non-neutrality and peacock terms include:

• "popular albums".
• "a solid working class family". Why "solid"? Seems like an opinion to me.
• "transforming her from a rock'n'roll shrieker to a muse of cantautori". A different word to "muse" would be more netural.
• "Another masterpiece interpretation of a Dionne Warwick's hit". "masterpiece"?
• "Mina is a passionate cook and a poker player". "passionate" seems unnecessary here.

Also:

• The lead needs to be expanded per WP:LEAD. Two or three paras should be suitable for an article on this size
• In the interests of broadness, you should include a Musical style section, describing her musical output in a neutral, sourced manner.
• You should move Discography, Filmography and Bibliography to Works of Mina or similar.
• A lot of the prose needs work. I've spotted several spelling mistakes and awkward constructions, but it's worth fixing the rest of the article first before tackling the prose issue.

If you have any questions, feel free to contact me on my talk page. CloudNine (talk) 17:55, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

The contributions of UserTalk:84.220.25.149

I see, that an anonymous person with the computer 84.220.25.149 is contributing to the lead section by copying an old edition of the article. The article was re-written according to the WP:LEAD guidelines and I see nothing wrong with it, until proven so. User:Erikupoeg

To user User:Erikupoeg

Hello. I'm an italian Mina's fan. I don't know english very well and I can't use wikipedia very well ( infact I can't do anything with the exeption of rewriting page) I hadn't understand that I must not re-write the article about Mina. I'm sorry for this misunderstanding. But why Can't I give my contribute to wikipedia? I have the links of the informations I inserted into Mina's page. I will know if I can rewrite the page. Thanks a lot for the possible answers! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Saretttttta (talk • contribs) 15:20, 25 March 2010 (UTC)

Hello! You are welcome to contribute appropriately sourced information to Misplaced Pages. To avoid misunderstandings and reverts, you might want to post your suggested statements and their sources here on the talk page first to get consensus from other editors. --Jaan Pärn (talk) 15:30, 25 March 2010 (UTC)

Unfree image in infobox

Please stop vandalizing. As Misplaced Pages guidelines state, the purpose of an infobox is not merely showing, what a person looks like, but giving an overview on the topic. Mina's album Studio Uno 66 is among her greatest achievements, which is discussed in the lead and the following sections in detail. Cover art is in place in the info box next to the lead section. More than a quarter of the photos used in the infoboxes of good articles about artists are licensed as fair use. Usage of cover art in infoboxes of good articles about musical artists is a normal practice, including the Supremes, Crowded House and Shelly Manne. Thank you. User:Erikupoeg

You seem to be as unfamiliar with Misplaced Pages's basic civility policy as you are with its non-free content policy. The infobox image in Crowded House (as well as the other band/member photos in that article) is free, the Supremes disbanded more than thirty years ago and Shelly Manne died in 1984. Mina however is very much alive, and for living people (and existing bands) the use of unfree images is not considered appropriate. (The cover of an album is considered appropriate in an article about that album, and screenshot from a film might be considered appropriate in an article about that film, but that is not an excuse to take such a cover or screenshot and use it anywhere where it comes handy. There are other unfree images in the article whose use is questionable, I only removed the most extreme one.)

See also Talk:Sylvie Vartan‎.

Regards, High on a tree (talk) 02:28, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

Talk:Mina (singer)/GA1

Merge

I propose merging Altro into here, per WP:NALBUM.  Chzz  ►  07:41, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

The discussion rather belongs to Talk:Altro. However, I do not see the purpose of the suggested merging. The Altro article contains nothing but an introduction statement and a track list. What would the merging to the Mina (singer) article mean? --Jaan Pärn (talk) 12:13, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

Birth name appears wrong to me ?

"Anna Maria Mazzini"?? This sounds wrong. it:Mina (cantante) says Mina Anna Mazzini, and considering she's still a big star there, would you assume a wrong name would be readable in Misplaced Pages there for months or even years? That couldn't be, let alone by using plain logic. -andy 212.114.254.107 (talk) 13:58, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

The Italian wiki article cites no sources for the birth name at all. Per wp:v, there is no case there. --Jaan Pärn (talk) 16:05, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

Citations needed

I worked on the first paragraph to clean up the grammar a bit and to suggest that the quotes attributed to various celebreties be cited.Lacbolg (talk) 21:03, 24 March 2010 (UTC)

Introduction

The name anna maria is totally wrong. I am italian and I know that because today is the mina's birthday I read it on lots articles. I want also insert the following information because of many artists said of Mina thing that can explain the puplic personage. I have also the links where I have taken this informations. I'm listing these references near the informations.

Mina Anna Mazzini OMRI (born on 25 March 1940), known as Mina, is an Italian pop singer with Swiss citizenship. She is an artist of international fame and her voice is one of the most regarded voices in the international overview of the music also for the her interpretations of songs. She is a point of reference for the female artists. For the great extension and agility of her soprano voice and her image as an emancipated lady, she was a staple of the Italian television variety shows and a dominant figure in the Italian pop music in the 1960s and 1970s. During the performances, Mina combined several modern styles with the traditional Italian melody and swing music making her the most versatile pop singer in Italian music. Mina dominated the Italian charts for fifteen years and reached an unsurpassed level of popularity in Italy. She has scored 98 albums and 70 singles in Italian charts. She gave up public appearances in 1978, but continued to release popular albums on a yearly basis to date. She has sold about 150 million records. Frank Sinatra wanted Mina to come to America to sing with him but Mina had a fear of flying as Pippo Baudo, ( who is an italian presenter) said at " Porta a porta", wich is an italian talk show that is presented by Bruno Vespa, on 9/10/2008; of this testimony there is a video available on youtube and anyone can see it; always on youtube the same Liza Minnelli says these things of Mina: "She sings the songs as the song must be sun, just how the songs had been wrote, she is incredible, the tonality, the voice, are exquisite, she is divine, she sings with the heart, she has the best voice I have ever heard... She is for the music that De Niro is for the cinema... she is unique, there is only Mina" . http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFR3SxnvTs4 Louis Armstrong said of her: " She is the best white singer in the whole world". ( IF YOU WRITE ON GOOGLE MINA LUOIS ARMSTRONG YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE ARE A LOT OF REFERENCES WICH ATTEST THAT) Also Michael Jackson, ( as the same Quincy Jones one of the biggest musical producer in the world said to Cristiano Malgioglio, who is a song writer, as the same Malgioglio affirmed during an interview done by IGN wich is online heading of the Adnkornos group ) had said that Mina has one of the most beautiful voice. In the same interview Cristiano Malgioglio said taht Jennifer Lopez affirmed of Mina she is the best singer of the pop music, the best white voice in the world, and she has the project of doing a cover of the new song " Carne Viva", present in Facile album, where she gives a token that she still preserve an exceptional vocal clarity and a notable vocal extension . I GIVE HERE THE LINK OF THE SAME IGN SITE THAT REPORT ONE OF ITS INTERVIEW AND FOR THIS I THINK THAT WE CAN TRUST OF IT....... http://www.adnkronos.com/IGN/News/Spettacolo/Musica-Malgioglio-Jennifer-Lopez-incidera-Carne-viva-di-Mina_166837005.html For her 70 years she recived the wishes also from Barbra Streisand and other international artists.

WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT? CAN I EDIT THE PAGE? THANKS for PAYING ATTENTION! by Saretttttta (talk) 17:05, 25 March 2010 (UTC)sarettttttaSaretttttta (talk) 17:05, 25 March 2010 (UTC)

Your proposal has multiple issues. First of all, a lead section should be a general summary of the entire article, so every fact in the lead should first be inserted in the respective paragraphs in the main body of the page. Currently, the lead is on the verge of being too long to be a concise summary. You have provided a source for Minnelli's quote on Mina. This should belong to the Legacy section. However, you have not provided the actual quotes, which Minelli presented in English, but a free translation of the Italian language interpretation. It is difficult to get the original text behind the Italian interpretor on the foreground, but I can give it a try to figure out what were her actual quotes. It is also problematic that the cited source is a Youtube video, which does not make a good source as it can be removed by the uploader any minute. Youtube videos are generally not considered reliable sources. Could you please provide an article from the Italian press that reports on Minelli discussing Mina?

Claims like "Malgioglio said that Quincy Jones had said that Michael Jackson had said..." are WP:GRAPEVINE and cannot be accepted. The same excludes the Jennifer Lopez quotes. If someone has made a comment, only a document on that direct quote can make a reliable source, not a document of someone claiming he heard that comment. Any claim can be verified by asking him/her directly and publishing it. If that has not been done, it is a clear sign that no such claim was ever made. Only primary sources are good in such cases. You need to provide sources for the rest of the quotes and other claims as well, including the quote by Louis Armstrong, otherwise they cannot be added to the article.

The Sanremo Encyclopedia lists Anna Maria Mazzini as Mina's birth name. You have not provided a single source to support your alternative claim. --Jaan Pärn (talk) 17:41, 25 March 2010 (UTC)

First of all I thank you for the answer. Well, also if the sanremo Encyclopedia lists Anna Maria Mazzini as Mina's birth name, it doesn't mean that it's right, also sanremo Encyclopedia is in english and it is write by ordinary pepole who take this information from...?  : I can't give you the documents of the register of births of italian republic obviously and in the same way I can't call Mina and ask directly to her wich is her name... In Italy this is well known think. I have a lot of italian reference of journalist that say this, rather all journalists says this. However it is a sure think: see italian wikipedia. I don't have undersand why Liza Minnelli citation cannot be insert in the introduction. Under the italian traduction in the video there is the voice of the same Liza Minnelli that is very clear infact also if I am not english I understand and the fact that a youtube video can be removed in every second in my opinion isn't a valid motivation for not include the citation: also if tomorrow the video will be removed Liza Minnelli said these thinks and you that are a person who write in wikipedia can give testimoniance of this, and however there are always the RAI archive and than you can't say of the italian traslation that is a free traslation: what target should have the traducer in change the sence of the thinks have been said by Liza Minnelli ; I have some articles but are in italian language... I don't understand because the others citation of jennifer lopez and michael jaekson can't be included. Can you write in a more simply english? scuse me but I can't know english very well. Can you also say me whic are the sources of these? : ( a lots o information are surly wrong)

Mina Anna Mazzini OMRI (born Anna Maria Mazzini 25 March 1940), known as Mina, is an Italian pop singer with Swiss citizenship. For the great extension and agility of her soprano voice and her image as an emancipated lady, she was a staple of the Italian television variety shows and a dominant figure in the Italian pop music in the 1960s and 1970s. During the performances, Mina combined several modern styles with the traditional Italian melody and swing music making her the most versatile pop singer in Italian music. Mina dominated the Italian charts for fifteen years and reached an unsurpassed level of popularity in Italy. She has scored 98 albums and 70 singles in Italian charts. She gave up public appearances in 1978, but continued to release popular albums on a yearly basis to date.

Mina isn't Anna maria mazzini. She is also an italian citizen. Mina isn't a dominant figure only in the '60 and '70. Mina is still important in Italy and is at the centre of the attention: She open with her video the sanremo of the 2009. She has for her 70th birthday a programme in first night the next 29th of March on the most important national tv: RAI tv. Who Does say that Mina has scored 98 albums and 70 singles in Italian charts? and why not so we can't insert that she has sold 150 million of records( itis an information given by her discography home)? It's wrong also that her lastest apparence was in the 1978. it was in 2001( in fact in an other section there is this information but in the text of the introduction it is not present, so or we insert the two information or we don't insert any information in the introduction about her public presence: only one of the two could be not correct the message) live broadcast on internet and there are a lot of video and also an album with the movies of her performances. And she doesn't release only one album every year. there are a lots years where Mina released also 8 albums.

Sorry again and I pray you to correct my mistakes. Saretttttta (talk) 19:36, 25 March 2010 (UTC)sarettttttaSaretttttta (talk) 19:36, 25 March 2010 (UTC)

"In Italy this is well known think" simply is not going to cut it. Come up with a source that discusses the matter, relies on a document or something. Perhaps you can access one of Mina's biographies? --Jaan Pärn (talk) 20:34, 25 March 2010 (UTC)

But It is just this the problem: we never can't have a biographie the same Mina recognize. I want not to be problematic but there isn't an universal source of information, infact it's rare to find a singer who write his/her biographies personally: this is valid also for e.g. Barbra Streisand. There are many interview present in the official website of Mina: these interviews I guess totally reliable.http://www.minamazzini.com/news/ There are also historical movies of the RAI television of an interview to Mina at "Ieri e Oggi" of Lelio Lutazzi where Mina is the guest of that episode of the program where Mina said some things about herself, but also the italian program tv "Vite straordinarie" realized 2 months ago goes back over the Mina career. I don't have a biographies of Mina, but here in Italy Mina is the most important singer and we know all about her... for example in the USA whitney houston: she had a period of her life in that she uses drugs, and this is written on wikipedia, but there are any videos? or for example on wikipedia it's written that she did some bad performances in live around world and also at the celebration of one of the president if i weel remember... but there are videos? I want say a think can be retained true also if there isn't any video or other documents about but simply because it's a very well known fact. If we think about all the things are not ascertained by document we must delete the information of a mid part of the encyclopedia. My biographie about Mina is te result of the tg news( because in Italy Mina often is object of the most important tg of the italian television, RAI and mediaset, so many videos of public italian television), the interviews of the same son of Mina, Massimiliano Pani as in this article http://www.repubblica.it/spettacoli-e-cultura/2010/03/25/news/mina-pani-2888803/ . the facts are the biographie of mina's life, the fact for example that I see in italian television that she is still present also if she there isn't, also if this can sounds strange, but she is great just for her capacity of go ahead only with her voice and not with her appearance.

So, Can I introduce part of that I had elencated( not whole text for give shortness to the introduction),because of I have given also some references?? I want above all introduce some citations of Liza Minnelli, of Quincy Jones, Jennifer Lopez( I had given the information that the intervist was done by IGN, but I can say simply jennyfer Lopez, quincy etc. ... regard Mina as the best white singer of ever —Preceding unsigned comment added by Saretttttta (talk • contribs) 21:26, 25 March 2010 (UTC)

I can only reiterate how it works here on Misplaced Pages: only verifiable facts that are published by reliable sources can be added. Self-published sources, as Mina's website or her statements somewhere on TV, are considered unreliable on Misplaced Pages. Massimiliano Pani does not mention his mother's birth name in his interview. --Jaan Pärn (talk) 09:27, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

Minnelli quote: please provide her original words for checking here on the talk page.

Re: Lopez, Jackson, Jones etc. quotes: show sources that directly quote their statements on Mina. So far you have provided only hearsay. --Jaan Pärn (talk) 08:58, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

Re: she is also italian citizen.: this source says otherwise. --Jaan Pärn (talk) 09:35, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

But the source you have found is of the 1989! it's absurd regard reliable sources not reliable, and reference of the 1989 reliable.........the actual Mina's cittadinanza is italian but also swiss.But the name of Mina isn't Anna Maria... see italian encyclopedia. And why the name must be Anna maria mazzini and not Mina anna mazzini( as it is in the reality)  ? give me a source. these are mina sources on the name of Mina: http://it.wikipedia.org/Mina_%28cantante%29 http://www.tgcom.mediaset.it/spettacolo/articoli/articolo477124.shtml( there is written that she has sold 150 millions of records also....) http://www.informazionepura.it/cultura/musica/1910-buon-compleanno-mina-sei-grande-grande-grande http://www.barimia.info/modules/article/view.article.php?26723 http://www.unita.it/news/culture/96617/il_senso_di_una_voce_la_mina_vagante_che_ci_ha_reso_europei http://www.ilsussidiario.net/News/Cinema-Televisione-e-Media/2010/3/25/YOUTUBE-Video-i-piu-visti-Mina-canta-e-da-la-voce-allo-spot-Barilla/75280/ http://www.ilsalvagente.it/Sezione.jsp?titolo=Mina-Lucio+Battisti%3A+un+duetto+scaricato+un+milione+e+600.000+volte&idSezione=6325 http://www.ilriformista.it/stories/Culture/195029/ http://www.ilsole24ore.com/art/SoleOnLine4/Tempo%20libero%20e%20Cultura/2010/03/mina-70-anni-regina-esilio.shtml?uuid=1586073e-31ee-11df-8501-945fa6a15627&DocRulesView=Libero I have others links maybe 6000... Can I change the name now( this links aren't of the 1989, see the date)???

However Why the referencre you've given can be insert in the page and my information about jennifer lopez no? yours source is the same as mine: it's an article on an online heading. I have yet insert the source on this talk page: http://www.adnkronos.com/IGN/News/Spettacolo/Musica-Malgioglio-Jennifer-Lopez-incidera-Carne-viva-di-Mina_166837005.html

quote: please provide her original words for checking here on the talk page. Video of Liza Minnelli: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFR3SxnvTs4 If you pay attention the words of Liza Minnelli are really really really clear

I'm tired to write the same things... I have given a lot of very reliable sources. Why can't I insert the information???? If I can't insert also part of the information I want say there are some information as I already have said on the page of Mina wrong. Give me the souces about she was a dominant figure only in the '60 and '70, her name is anna maria mazzini, she have records 98 albums. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.66.126.112 (talk) 11:59, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

You are mixing up her current name and her birth name. The article starts of with her current name Mina Anna Mazzini. Commented in the main body of the text. There should be no problem with that. On her birth name, we have two sources that say it was Anna Maria Mazzini. Apart from the Italian Misplaced Pages, which is a self-published source and does not count as reliable, you are to provide sources that deal with her birth name and claim otherwise. Ok, I can see the Il Sole 24 Ore actually does claim that her birth name was Mina Anna but that still does not override the 1989 la Repubblica report. I mean, the Il Sole 24 Ore does not cite any sources and therefore probably mirrors a common belief, while the la Repubblica reports on official documents. Moreover, here is a list of 18,600 internet pages that refer to the name Anna Maria Mazzini while less than 6,000 pages exist that include the name Mina Anna Mazzini. --Jaan Pärn (talk) 14:19, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

Re: Jennifer Lopez: the source provided by you does not include a direct quote by Lopez but just hearsay. --Jaan Pärn (talk) 14:46, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

Re: If you pay attention the words of Liza Minnelli are really really really clear: Then it should not be a problem for you to provide her actual words not the double translation. --Jaan Pärn (talk) 14:47, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

I'm not mixing anything: IT IS THE NAME. You have report a list of results on a google home page: can be many errors, you must give my the articles searching on google news( where there are more aviable references, because of the texts are taken from online headings) and than 6000 was an indicative number, let's say 6000: if you search on google news with anna maria mazzini you've only 11 results, on the other hand with mina anna mazzini you've 108 results. Obviously also my sources are more than 6000... But the page you have given to me isn't in english, the leanguage is doich? why have you searched on a doich version of google home page? What do you want about Liza Minnelli? Must I give you my traduction or what? If I give you a traduction of a heading you can say that is a hearsay... Finnaly give me the two source you've on the fact that her name is anna maria mazzini but this source must not be of the 1989 possibly. And why what you have write on english wikipedia can be regarded reliable and that is written on italian version of the encyclopedia can't be reliable??? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.66.126.112 (talk) 15:05, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

Re: IT IS THE NAME: Yes, it is her current name and is represented so in the article. --Jaan Pärn (talk) 15:14, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

Re: Finnaly give me the two source you've on the fact that her name is anna maria mazzini: Her current name is not Anna Maria Mazzini, it is her birth name according to the documents she presented in her application for the Swiss citizenship in 1989, as reported by the la Repubblica. I don't think there are any recent developments in her birth name so a 1989 report is just as good as a later one. A birth certificate from 1941 would be best, but in the absence of that, we need to rely on wp:secondary sources that use official documents as their sources. --Jaan Pärn (talk) 15:31, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

Re:What do you want about Liza Minnelli?: her original words. --Jaan Pärn (talk) 15:36, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

Re:And why what you have write on english wikipedia can be regarded reliable and that is written on italian version of the encyclopedia can't be reliable??? All wiki-content on the web is WP:SELFPUBLISH and cannot be used as a source on Misplaced Pages. The same goes for the English Misplaced Pages article on Mina: it cannot be used as a source for, say, the it:Mina Mazzini article. --Jaan Pärn (talk) 15:44, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

Re:Give me the souces about she was a dominant figure only in the '60 and '70—Go ahead: http://www.italica.rai.it/eng/principal/topics/bio/mina.htm --Jaan Pärn (talk) 15:54, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

Re:Who Does say that Mina has scored 98 albums and 70 singles in Italian charts?—The data for the albums is from the HitParadeItalia site Top Annuali Album and that of the singles is from Top Settimanali Single . --Jaan Pärn (talk) 15:57, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

Re: Yes, it is her current name and is represented so in the article. Why? Re: Her current name is not Anna Maria Mazzini, it is her birth name according to the documents she presented in her application for the Swiss citizenship in 1989, as reported by the la Repubblica. I don't think there are any recent developments in her birth name so a 1989 report is just as good as a later one. A birth certificate from 1941 would be best, but in the absence of that, we need to rely on wp:secondary sources that use official documents as their sources. maybe I didn't manage to explain my idea, because in Italy the birth name is the same of the current name in cases as this: Her bitrth name isn't Anna Maria Mazzini. What does it mean? what does mean the fact that her birth name was this according with the documents she presented in her applicationfor the citizenship? you don't have the documents where is written that mina's birth name is anna maria mazzini, this is an article of the 1989 that is about her application for the swiss citizenship, but you don't have the original document: the writer of the article on the Repubblica write as he knew in that period or rather the fact the name of Mina was Anna maria mazzini. Yes, the certificate of her born of the 1940, and not 1941, would be really reliable, but this article hasn't the same value of a birth certification! however you must give me also the second information you have give me only one source that is wrong because it's too far in time, the things change and the mistakes are corrected and it isn't the test of the birth Mina name: the autor of the Repubblica's article cannot have the originnaly document. Re: http://www.italica.rai.it/eng/principal/topics/bio/mina.htm this isn't a reilable source. Italica rai as you've have said is one web side, but isn't the official mina's biography! Mina is still in activity, I'm going to change now this thing: Mina is the most important singer in Italy and to her the 29th of murch on the rai tv is dedicated a programme in first night! I have written from 1960 to our days. You consent me at least to know this thing since I live in Italy... Re: The data for the albums is from the HitParadeItalia site Top Annuali Album and that of the singles is from Top Settimanali Single . An attendible voice is the Mina web site! If you consent Mina can know how many albums she has done, or no?? it's absurde to no retain reliable the Mina site about at least the records she has realized. I changed the number of albums was written on the introduction and I have written 134: I have counted the number of the cds there are in hight: THOSE are the cds Mina has scored obviously. Re: her original words.I have unterstood that you want the Liza Minnelli's words, but how you want thoso? you want that I write those on the same talk page sticking to the video of youtube or you want an article of an online heading??? 212.66.126.112 (talk) 18:18, 26 March 2010 (UTC)saretttttta212.66.126.112 (talk) 18:18, 26 March 2010 (UTC)212.66.126.112 (talk) 18:17, 26 March 2010 (UTC)saretttttta212.66.126.112 (talk) 18:17, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

Replacing sourced information with unsourced one is diruptive. If you do not want to get banned, I suggest you stop doing that. --Jaan Pärn (talk) 18:37, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

Re:you don't have the documents where is written that mina's birth name is anna maria mazzini—The current name is sourced to a report about her application for Swiss citizenship. It is reasonable to assume that the reporter used the official name of the singer. By the way, according to the la Repubblica in 1989, her name is not Anna Maria Mazzini but Anna Maria Mazzini Crocco. Obviously, Crocco was added in 1970 with the marriage to Virgilio Crocco. If you have evidence that proves that the author did not have access to any official documents and made an error, you should provide that instead of just saying: "Everyone in Italy knows that."

Re:things change and the mistakes are corrected —A person's birth name cannot change.

Re:Repubblica's article cannot have the originnaly document—You need to provide evidence to prove that.

Re:http://www.italica.rai.it/eng/principal/topics/bio/mina.htm this isn't a reilable source—Why?

Re:Italica rai as you've have said is one web side—Entirely true but you cannot simply delete that without replacing it with another reliable source.

Re:I'm going to change now this thing—I strongly suggest you don't change anything on your own. Your English is terrible and your edits suffer from WP:OR and the fact that you are a fan of the singer.

Re:I have written from 1960 to our days—Where is the source for that?

Re:An attendible voice is the Mina web site!—Vice versa, her web site is WP:SELFPUB.

Re:THOSE are the cds Mina has scored obviously—Note that the statement is She has scored 77 albums and 71 singles in Italian charts. meaning that this is not a full list of albums but only those that were listed in the record chart of Italy. --Jaan Pärn (talk) 19:12, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

I thanks you for the civil discussion. You threaten of ban me when I stay simply explain my opinion. However you're wrong, I know that the name of a person is the same, but what does it mean? If you have a wrong idea of this fact you don't know the reality but you think that is the reality. However wikipedia is a common serice and everyone sould say own idea without be threatened. I don't have threatened you and you aren't the owner of wikipedia and you aren't necessary right. I want to bring my knowledges but the pepole know that wikipedia is write by person who sometimes don't know all about the argoments as you in this case, but I think the fact to admit is a point of strong and not the contrary. So pepole consider what the text give. I stop here my intervention because if a person doesn't want to have a civil dialogue without threats I guess it is worth continuing. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Saretttttta (talk • contribs) 19:39, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

1. Cite error: The named reference sanremo was invoked but never defined (see the help page).
2. ^ Carrera, Alessandro (2001). "Folk music and popular song from the nineteenth century to the 1990s". In Zygmunt Guido Baranski, Rebecca J. West (ed.). The Cambridge Companion to Modern Italian Culture. Cambridge University Press. pp. 325–336.
3. Biography of Mina. RAI international online site. Retrieved 26 february 2008
4. Cite error: The named reference singles was invoked but never defined (see the help page).

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