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Revision as of 23:16, 26 March 2010

GoRight anticipates being busy in real life for a few weeks and so he may be slow to respond. Updated: 20:22, 20 March 2010 (UTC)

Historical References

Historical Back Pointers

Rather than create archive pages which use up additional space I have decided to instead keep a list of back pointers to permanent links within the history of this talk page at various points in time.

A Hint

Don't repost there. If further steps are needed, go to a neutral venue or ask a neutral party to mediate (probably best to find somebody besides me). Cheers, Jehochman 15:55, 25 March 2010 (UTC)

OK, thanks. I don't know why this should be a sensitive topic. Either he considers us involved, or not. I believe that he considers us uninvolved based on his comments at Trusilver's talk page but I just want to know where we stand. I don't even care which way he answers, I just want something on record to avoid arguing about it later if the topic ever comes up again. Ironically, he recently told me that if I have an issue with someone the first place to go is to their talk page. So, I took his advice. --GoRight (talk) 16:10, 25 March 2010 (UTC)

Do you have a suggestion for what an appropriate venue might be? I ask because I feel as though I need to walk on egg shells sometimes even for a straight forward question such as this. I don't want to make waves here, I just want an answer that will stick. --GoRight (talk) 16:15, 25 March 2010 (UTC)

WP:PITCHFORKS

At this point, I feel that greater community input concerning your editing history and the concerns of others is needed. I have started a discussion here. Your input would be appreciated. Thanks. Trusilver 01:13, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

I have responded there per your request. --GoRight (talk) 01:26, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

Discussion of the points raised

I have no reason whatsoever to doubt Trusilver's good faith, so I must admit to being somewhat surprised by some of his characterizations of the edits he provides. So let me seek input on them one at a time.

First diff

The background on this edit is as follows:

1. Some time back Atmoz had indicated on his talk page that he was withdrawing from climate change topics (this is the edit where I was made aware of it),
2. A new process was proposed at the this discussion climate probation request for enforcement page,
3. Atmoz made an edit that would have been covered by that new process,
4. An editor complained and asked Atmoz to redact what they felt was a personal attack and Atmoz deleted the complaint,
5. I made a neutral comment informing Atmoz of the new policy, and
6. I followed up with a friendly FYI on his talk page to make sure he was aware of the new policy since I thought there might be a reasonable probability that he hadn't seen it previously.

So I was honestly trying to be helpful in terms of making sure Atmoz was aware of what was happening at the Climate Change RfE. I didn't prod him, I didn't take sides, I simply provided him information he might need to know. I had no way to know that he didn't care about the probation policy discussion, but once he made that clear I didn't bother him further. So please help me understand how this is harassment, when I have been told that things like this are no big deal? --GoRight (talk) 02:43, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

Notification

I just want to make a statement at Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents. I just stumbled across the discussion scanned some of it and want to make a statement. Good luck Mlpearc MESSAGE 02:30, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

Essay

How you should proceed depends on your ideas. The wiki page on essays says that you can write about almost anything related to Misplaced Pages, as long as the essay does not undermine Misplaced Pages.

You just choose a title (say Title of My Essay) and then construct this link:

http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Title_of_My_Essay

You click on the link and then you get the message:

"Misplaced Pages does not have a project page with this exact name. Start the Misplaced Pages:Title of My Essay page...."

And then you click on "Start the Misplaced Pages page..."

For your essay to be listed properly, you have to start it like:

{{essay}}

{{nutshell|Abstract of essay}}

==Section 1==

etc.

Count Iblis (talk) 21:21, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

Excellent. Your help is kindly appreciated. --GoRight (talk) 21:32, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

I don't think that's a idea task. Last time you kinda agreed that it would be a good idea to produce actual content. Apparently nothing has happened - why not? Writing articles is the most important and the most gratifying part of Misplaced Pages. --Stephan Schulz (talk) 22:03, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

I haven't definitively settled on this, nor do I need to select one thing. Diversity would be appropriate, no? As to producing content, I am seriously considering some work with the copy-edit idea as well. Would that fall satisfactorily under the heading of content work, or not? Or are you only referring to only to generating new content?

I actually started looking into the Constellation idea you gave me, and it is still a good one. The issue I ran into and which I am not really sure how to address is that most of the high-quality sources are primary research papers, many of which are far too technical for our purposes here. There is always the possibility that I simply wasn't looking in the right place, e.g. Google Scholar. My experience on the CC pages has made me hyper-sensitive to WP:OR issues with using primary sources. It is difficult to stitch together a meaningful and well written article out of just primary sources because everything you write is technically WP:OR. How is this problem typically addressed in other articles? --GoRight (talk) 23:16, 26 March 2010 (UTC)