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:::: Personally I think it should remain "stabbings". The first victim after all required stitches to his face, naming it "stabbing" suggests he wasn't a victim of a quite serious assault. ] (]) 15:15, 30 December 2009 (UTC) :::: Personally I think it should remain "stabbings". The first victim after all required stitches to his face, naming it "stabbing" suggests he wasn't a victim of a quite serious assault. ] (]) 15:15, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
:::::Hm.. true, but I feel this is the case when one word can't express the story - here "stabbing" refers to a number of incidents rather than the number of actual strikes; IMO, those were two closely related incidents, i.e. closer to one than to multiple case. ] (]) 06:40, 31 December 2009 (UTC)


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Candidate entries

Articles created/expanded on December 31

Christian Leden

Created by Rosiestep (talk). Self nom at 06:02, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

Jairam Ramesh

5x expanded by Marcus334 (talk). Self nom at 05:29, 31 December 2009 (UTC)


John Samuel Wanley Sawbridge-Ernle-Erle-Drax

Created by Nikkimaria (talk). Self nom at 03:42, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

  • Per the article's talkpage, I'm not sure about this at all - the source is a letter to the Times, with nothing to support it, and the story is one often told about other people. Shimgray | talk | 04:28, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

Tracked Hovercraft

The prototype Tracked Hovercraft, RTV 31, preserved at Railworld.

  • ... that the prototype Tracked Hovercraft high-speed train was expected to reach 300 mph on its test track north of London, but had only broken 100 mph on a short portion before the program was cancelled in 1973?

Created by Maury Markowitz (talk). Self nom at 02:42, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on December 30

Paradox Valley

Paradox Valley

Created by Suffusion of Yellow (talk). Self nom at 04:34, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

Villers–Bretonneux Australian National Memorial

View of the memorial tower and the Cross of Sacrifice

Created by Carcharoth (talk). Self nom at 04:21, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

Stan Benjamin

A photo of Stan Benjamin as a member of the Philadelphia Phillies

5x expanded by Neonblak (talk). Nominated by Neonblak (talk) at 01:26, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

Washoe Lake State Park

5x expanded by Dincher (talk). Nominated by Dincher (talk) at 01:10, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

1950 Salad Bowl

Created by Mackensen (talk). Nominated by Mackensen (talk) at 00:46, 31 December 2009 (UTC)


Dope Stars Inc.

Created by GroundZ3R0 002 (talk). Self nom at 04:31, 30 December 2009 (UTC)

Dean Clark (footballer)

Created by Miyagawa (talk). Self nom at 00:24, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

Temple Israel (Dayton, Ohio)

Created by Jayjg (talk). Self nom at 23:33, 30 December 2009 (UTC)


M 22

Created by Soman (talk). Self nom at 23:26, 30 December 2009 (UTC)

Usama ibn Munqidh

5x expanded by User:Adam Bishop (talk). Self nom at 22:19, 30 December 2009 (UTC)

The Candidate (TV)

Created by Sadads (talk). Nominated by Sadads (talk) at 20:37, 30 December 2009 (UTC)

SS Elisabethville

Created by Mjroots (talk). Nominated by Mjroots (talk) at 18:47, 30 December 2009 (UTC)

Elliot D. Coleman

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 17:39, 30 December 2009 (UTC)


Stubbe – Von Fall zu Fall

5x expanded by SoWhy (talk). Self nom at 12:13, 30 December 2009 (UTC)

Wayang Musuem

Created by Rochelimit (talk). Self nom at 10:15, 30 December 2009 (UTC)

Jakarta History Museum

5x expanded by Rochelimit (talk). Self nom at 10:10, 30 December 2009 (UTC)

High Court of Andalusia

The former Royal Chancery of Granada, seat of the High Court of Andalusia

Created by Jmabel (talk). Self nom at 08:08, 30 December 2009 (UTC)

Saw (video game)

Created by GroundZ3R0 002 (talk). Nominated by GroundZ3R0 002 (talk) at 10:19, 30 December 2009 (UTC)

  • The article is too old; it was created 30 January 2008 by xeno; DYKs have to have been created or expanded fivefold within the last five days. As the article is already 27,000 characters of readable prose, this is not likely. Intelligentsium 22:29, 30 December 2009 (UTC)

HMIS Jamnagar

Created by Mjroots (talk). Nominated by Mjroots (talk) at 04:20, 30 December 2009 (UTC)

List of Baccano! episodes

do not tell the events in chronological order?

Created by Itzjustdrama (talk). Self nom at 01:01, 30 December 2009 (UTC)

FYI, I've assessed as List-class (which is fine for DYK purposes), as it fits the characteristics of List-class articles. Hassocks5489 (tickets please!) 22:46, 30 December 2009 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on December 29

Haldanes

  • ... that Haldanes is the first mid-sized supermarket chain to open in the UK for more than 20 years?

Created by Bungle (talk). Nominated by Miyagawa (talk) at 18:59, 30 December 2009 (UTC)

  • Article is too short for DYK. DYKCheck reports 937 characters of readable prose while 1500 are required here. The article is classified as a stub—it should be reclassified as a start class for it to be okayed for DYK. Online hook is verified. Binksternet (talk) 19:27, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
I'm expanding this one @ the moment, and will continue to do so. More info is appearing all the time on this new company. Hassocks5489 (tickets please!) 19:38, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
As Hassocks said above, it is a new company and no doubt alot more information will be popping up about it for some time yet. I only started the article yesterday, so it's no surprise it is only small, but I don't see it being a problem to get it up to Start or C class very soon. Bungle 20:35, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
PS. I've added myself as an expansion credit, if that's OK. (It's only visible in the edit window because of the way the template works.) Hassocks5489 (tickets please!) 22:50, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
Having been doing alot of searching, I am seeing conflicting reports on how long it has been since the last supermarket chain opened. BBC states 27 years (which is the one quoted and referenced in the article), but The Grocer seem to think it is 21 years (ref1, ref2); anyone care to double check/clarify? Bungle 23:36, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
I'm looking into this now as well. See the talk page for further discussion. Hassocks5489 (tickets please!) 23:42, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
Modified hook as per discussion on talk page. Miyagawa (talk) 00:22, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

Vega State Park

5x expanded by Dincher (talk). Nominated by Dincher (talk) at 16:11, 30 December 2009 (UTC)

Ya'qub Bilbul

5x expanded by Tiamut (talk). Nominated by Tiamut (talk) at 14:35, 30 December 2009 (UTC)


Pratt & Whitney Canada PW800

Created by SidewinderX (talk). Self nom at 13:14, 30 December 2009 (UTC)


SS Tobruk

Created by Mjroots (talk). Nominated by Mjroots (talk) at 04:29, 30 December 2009 (UTC)


Barack Obama assassination threats

Created by Hunter Kahn (talk). Nominated by Hunter Kahn (talk) at 04:25, 30 December 2009 (UTC)

Lam Brook

Created by Jezhotwells (talk). Self nom at 00:15, 30 December 2009 (UTC)

Mariama Signate

5x expanded by Oceanh (talk). Self nom at 23:20, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

Elias Bond

Created by W Nowicki (talk). Nominated by W Nowicki (talk) at 23:11, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

Xian H-6K

Created by Offliner (talk). Self nom at 22:57, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

God the Father in Western art

Created by History2007 (talk). Self nom at 21:27, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

ALT:... that in early depictions, Jesus, rather than God the Father was depicted in scenes from the Old Testament?

Scarman report

Created by SasiSasi (talk). Self nom at 21:44, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

Sam Hanna

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 20:27, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

ALT:... that the late newspaper publisher Sam Hanna is among the relatively few journalists inducted into the Louisiana Political Museum and Hall of Fame?

Taney Seamounts

  • Comment: Ok ok, not very interesting...but I can't find anything better.

Created by Resident Mario (talk). Nominated by Resident Mario (talk) at 17:44, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

Henry Kirke Bush-Brown

Detail of equestrian statue of General John F. Reynolds by Henry Kirke Bush-Brown

Created by Kaisershatner (talk). Nominated by Kaisershatner (talk) at 18:13, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

Edited hook-counting 198 char now I think? Kaisershatner (talk) 04:51, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
I currently count 221 characters. Spaces and punctuation all count as characters within the hook (excluding pictured). This tool will assist in trimming the hook Kindly Calmer Waters 18:52, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for your help, sorry to be dense. I think this hook just makes it, if "that" is not included. "... that sculptor Henry Kirke Brown's nephew, Henry Kirke Bush-Brown, created four works at Gettysburg Battlefield: a bust of Abraham Lincoln and statues of Generals Meade, Reynolds (pictured), and Sedgwick?" Kaisershatner (talk) 04:30, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

Come What(ever) May

5x expanded by Rezter (talk). Nominated by Rezter (talk) at 16:29, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

Hotel Valley Ho

A hotel external wall displaying the name "Valley Ho" in stylized raised letters

Created by Binksternet (talk), Dr. Blofeld (talk). Nominated by Dr. Blofeld (talk) at 14:25, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

Harlan Sanborn

Created by Remember (talk). Self nom at 13:30, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

Heinrich Hoffmann (pilot)

5x expanded by MisterBee1966 (talk). Nominated by MisterBee1966 (talk) at 12:41, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

Ian Hunter (footballer)

Created by Hack (talk). Self nom at 07:09, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

The Jacksons: A Family Dynasty

Michael Jackson and his three children

Created by Pyrrhus16 (talk). Nominated by Pyrrhus16 (talk) at 06:13, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

IXL Historical Museum

IXL Historical Museum

Created by Royalbroil (talk). Nominated by Royalbroil (talk) at 04:45, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

Added User:Andrew Jameson to get credit for major expansion. Royalbroil 16:25, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

Cross v. United States (1871)

Created by MBisanz (talk). Self nom at 04:28, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

  • Two large sections of the article lack inline citations (background and opinion of the court). Please provide inline citations for the facts for that portion of the article (at least 1 per paragragh before promotion should take place. Kindly Calmer Waters 08:17, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

The Seduction of Ingmar Bergman

5x expanded by Jayen466 (talk). Self nom at 01:42, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

Puerto Ángel

  • ... that a previously undescribed species of coral called Pocillopora sp. was found off the coast of Puerto Ángel, Mexico?

5x expanded by Thelmadatter (talk). Self nom at 01:40, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on December 28

Clayton Teetzel

Clayton Teetzel
Clayton Teetzel

Created by Cbl62 (talk). Nominated by Cbl62 (talk) at 04:24, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

All Is Love

Karen O of Karen O and the Kids

5x expanded by Liquidluck (talk). Self nom at 04:18, 30 December 2009 (UTC)

Thanks! Liqudlucktalk 04:38, 30 December 2009 (UTC)

Helge Krog

  • ... that Helge Krog criticized the contributions from the Norwegian large-scale industry to the warfare of Nazi Germany?

Created by Oceanh (talk). Self nom at 02:20, 30 December 2009 (UTC)

Smith and Grady v UK

Created by Ajbpearce (talk). Self nom at 00:20, 30 December 2009 (UTC)

Alice in Wonderland (1931 film)

Created by Jack1956 (talk). Nominated by Jack1956 (talk) at 17:12, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

Kukaniloko Birth Site

Entrance stones, looking toward central stones

5x expanded by Joel Bradshaw (talk). Self nom at 08:33, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

Billy Sandow

5x expanded by 208.120.153.110 (talk). Nominated by GaryColemanFan (talk) at 05:33, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

Alan Solow

Created by Mhym (talk). Self nom at 02:39, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

Matford Vic

Created by Miyagawa (talk). Self nom at 00:32, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

Supply of Goods (Implied Terms) Act 1973

Vance Seamounts

5x expanded by Resident Mario (talk). Nominated by Resident Mario (talk) at 23:53, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

Alice Verlet

Created by Drhoehl (talk). Nominated by Drhoehl (talk) 28 December 2009 (UTC)

Tefik Mborja

Created by Soman (talk). Self nom at 23:01, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

President Jackson Seamounts

Created by Resident Mario (talk). Nominated by Resident Mario (talk) at 22:33, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

The Uncertainty Principle (The Spectacular Spider-Man)

Created by SuperFlash101 (talk). Nominated by SuperFlash101 (talk) at 21:20, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

Down in Flames (video game)

Created by ArCgon (talk). Self nom at 21:17, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

Mike Mikulak

Created by Esprqii (talk). Self nom at 20:32, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

Great Brook Run

Created by Sillyfolkboy (talk). Self nom at 19:48, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

Quality Bicycle Products

Created by AndrewDressel (talk). Self nom at 18:29, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

Siege of Negapatam

5x expanded by Magicpiano (talk). Self nom at 18:04, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

I think that fits... Magic♪piano 14:02, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

Loren Singer

5x expanded by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 18:03, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

CFA International Cat Show

Created by Miller17CU94 (talk). Nominated by Miller17CU94 (talk) at 15:24, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

  • Date, length, and hook verified from cited sources from table. Image verified licensed under CC 3.0. Thanks for expanding the prose (and quite quickly). Kindly Calmer Waters 16:02, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

Tim Costello (labor advocate)

  • ... that author and anti-globalization advocate Tim Costello started his writing career in the back of his truck while traveling around the United States as a long-haul truck driver?

Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 15:21, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

Hugh Norman-Walker

5x expanded by Clithering (talk). Nominated by Clithering (talk) at 13:58, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

Outer Temple

William Garrow

Glidden Co. v. Zdanok

Created by MBisanz (talk). Self nom at 08:38, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

  • Length, date and hook verifyied, however, I'm not a fan beginning of the hook. How about this:

Alt 1:

That way, the exact length of time and the court that made the decision are in the hook. Bradjamesbrown (talk) 18:53, 28 December 2009 (UTC)
I'm fine with the alt hook. MBisanz 22:11, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on December 27

Don't Forget Me (When I'm Gone)

Created by Gongshow (talk). Self nom at 06:12, 31 December 2009 (UTC)


Green Line (Washington Metro)

  • ... that two months after the final five Green Line stations on Washington, D.C.'s Metro opened, more than 30,600 riders per day boarded at the stations—three times as many as originally estimated?

5x expanded by Tim1965 (talk). Nominated by Tim1965 (talk) at 15:44, 30 December 2009 (UTC)


Sierras de Cazorla, Segura y Las Villas Natural Park

  • Comment: This is one of a bunch of translations from the Spanish Misplaced Pages I've been doing recently. The Spanish originals are basically without references. In this case, I took a couple of hours to track down references, and have been able to cite for about half the article (and make some corrections).

Created by Jmabel (talk). Self nom at 04:35, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

Lynn Lowe

Created/expanded by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 02:03, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

ALT1:... that the 1978 Republican gubernatorial nominee in Arkansas, Lynn Lowe, sought to defeat Bill Clinton by making an issue of certain state sales taxes?

West Coast Choppers

5x expanded by Dbratland (talk). Self nom at 00:18, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

Pavel Antseborenko

Created by LGF1992UK (talk). Nominated by LGF1992UK (talk) at 23:16, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

Citation added. LGF1992UK (talk) 17:09, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

Wally Teninga

Created by Cbl62 (talk). Nominated by Cbl62 (talk) at 21:15, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

Leo Koceski

Created by Cbl62 (talk). Nominated by Cbl62 (talk) at 21:08, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

Markeli

Created by TodorBozhinov (talk). Nominated by TodorBozhinov (talk) at 20:20, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

Yardymli meteorite

Created by Brandmeister (talk). Self nom at 19:14, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

Search over russian wiki easily reveals that this meteorite (only ~150 kg) was not 3rd. Other issues: (i) the source is obsolete and hardly reliable in this topic; (ii) two masses are often compared - found on the ground and estimate before entering the atmosphere - the "nth rank" should explain that. Materialscientist (talk) 05:25, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

Could you give any related reference (until 1991, when the USSR was dissolved)? I'll replace then with some other fact. Brand 07:42, 29 December 2009 (UTC)
What I can provide right now is links to ru.wikipedia pages with meteorites found on Russian (that is narrower than USSR) territory before 1990, which are heavier than 150 kg. The list doesn't include two famous ones mentioned in the article, and is hardly complete. Materialscientist (talk) 07:58, 29 December 2009 (UTC)
ALT: ... that a sample of the Yardymly meteorite was preserved in the Fersman Mineralogical Museum of Moscow? Brand 09:12, 29 December 2009 (UTC)
This is a rather uninteresting hook, which is usually not a reason for demotion, but IMO, this is one of those cases. Materialscientist (talk) 09:59, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
ALT1: ... that the Yardymly meteorite features a sizable Widmanstätten pattern and an anomalously low amount of tritium?--Chanaka L (talk) 14:48, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
Thank you Chanaka, IMO, ALT1 is much better and I was trying to push the nominator to think this way :-) - it was quite obvious that any mentioning of relevant facts like low tritium content (whatever it might mean) would twist the hook. However, neither part of the hook is supported by the references. Most refs for this article are not WP:RS or are simply incorrect (see above) that is a valid reason for rejecting this nom (factual incorrectness). Materialscientist (talk) 00:26, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

High Court of Singapore

Supreme Court Building, Singapore

Created by Jacklee (talk). Nominated by Jacklee (talk) at 17:29, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

  • Length and date verified. Offline sources for hooks accepted in good faith. Note: I added "criminal" to second hook, as that is what the article seemed to say. (Hope that's ok.) Also, third hook is too long (209 characters) and too complicated. Regards, —mattisse (Talk) 19:38, 27 December 2009 (UTC)
    • Comment: actually, it's true for both civil and criminal cases. The point was mentioned in the "Constitution of the Court" section at the text accompanying footnote 4, so I didn't mention it again when discussing the original civil jurisdiction of the Court. However, I did mention it when dealing with original criminal jurisdiction because the Criminal Procedure Code specifically states this. The references can be checked online at "Supreme Court of Judicature Act (Cap. 322, 2007 Rev. Ed.)" (mentioned in footnote 1 and in the "References" section) and "Criminal Procedure Code (Cap. 68, 1985 Rev. Ed.)" (footnote 36 and "References" section). — Cheers, JackLee 07:06, 28 December 2009 (UTC)
  • I think the second hook is more interesting. The first is rather technical, and the third is utterly unremarkable. Piracy is considered a hostis humani generis, and is subject to universal jurisdiction, so any country has jurisdiction- there is nothing unique to Singapore there. Whereas, that any matter before any part of a Supreme Court can be decided by a single judge is surprising. (Even though the High Court is not the highest court in Singapore, it's still part of the Supreme Court). Bradjamesbrown (talk) 06:20, 28 December 2009 (UTC)
    • Comment: yes, I realized that about the third hook but thought it might be interesting for readers who don't know much about law. Anyway, feel free to pick the hook that you think will be most interesting. — Cheers, JackLee 07:06, 28 December 2009 (UTC)
I disagree. The first one strikes me as the most interesting. ResMar 23:37, 30 December 2009 (UTC)

Fritz Crisler

Winged football helmet

5x expanded by Cbl62 (talk). Nominated by Cbl62 (talk) at 06:23, 27 December 2009 (UTC)


Theobald Burke

Created by Red Hurley (talk). Nominated by Ww2censor (talk) at 02:19, 31 December 2009 (UTC)


Articles created/expanded on December 26

List of DART Light Rail stations

Created by Patriarca12 (talk). Self nom at 00:12, 30 December 2009 (UTC)

Rukhsana Kausar

Created by Xeteli (talk). Nominated by PFHLai (talk) at 15:59, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

Leonid Kharitonov (actor)

Created by Storye book (talk). Self nom at 01:05, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

SS Iberia (1954)

  • ... that besides mechanical failures, fuel leaks and collisions, the passenger liner SS Iberia also suffered multiple fires and blackouts, and twice grounded in the Suez Canal, before she was finally decommissioned in 1972?

Created by Shannon1 (talk). Nominated by PFHLai (talk) at 21:56, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

Cross of Lothair

Created by Valerius Tygart (talk) and Johnbod. Nominated by Johnbod (talk) at 20:36, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

Haley Cope

Created by Bradjamesbrown (talk). Self nom at 11:11, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

  • Comment Tomorrow I will try to cook up an article on Chiang- she won two medals in the 2000 World Championships, so she's clearly notable. However, there won't be enough on her to make 1,500 characters, I don't think, so this can proceed alone. This hook seems long, but it displays as 172 characters. Anyone that can stream-line it, please feel free! Bradjamesbrown (talk) 11:17, 28 December 2009 (UTC)
  • And, I wrote the Marylyn Chiang article. Guess what, as suspected, the sources just aren't there to get anywhere near 1,500 characters. She's notable, but quite obscure. I added the wikilink, though. I was rather hoping to get a double nom out of this, but, alas. Bradjamesbrown (talk) 01:37, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

Polish - Czech Friendship Trail

Created by Kicior99 (talk). Nominated by Coldplay Expert (talk) at 01:23, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

Woody Freeman

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 04:53, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

  • Length date and hook verified. However, I have two issues. 1) Would it be possible to break this article into sections, with level 2 headers to make it easier to read? 2) Your first and sixteenth references, though not relevant to this hook appear to be unverifiable. I'm assuming you didn't run the background checks yourself, so can you explain where you get the information? Thanks. Bradjamesbrown (talk) 05:19, 27 December 2009 (UTC)


Adjustments have been made.Billy Hathorn (talk) 01:44, 30 December 2009 (UTC)

Views expressed by James Edwards and The Political Cesspool

Created by Stonemason89 (talk). Nominated by Stonemason89 (talk) at 04:19, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

Why? Stonemason89 (talk) 05:31, 27 December 2009 (UTC)
I also can't see how this merits its own article... -- BigDom 19:18, 27 December 2009 (UTC)
See Talk:The_Political_Cesspool#Separate_page_for_views_expressed_on_the_show for the reason why I decided to create a separate article rather than adding the new content to The Political Cesspool or James Edwards (radio host). Both of those articles already had too much detail regarding the subject's views (violating WP: Summary Style). I decided not to burden those articles any further, and instead create a separate page, a la Political positions of Pat Buchanan, Political positions of Lyndon LaRouche, or Political positions of Ron Paul. As the examples I just mentioned show, this decision was not made without precedent. Stonemason89 (talk) 01:54, 29 December 2009 (UTC)
This "article" has no place on the Main Page and probably not anywhere, it is a random collection of "views" from a talk show. I don;t care if it gets deleted, please avoid using WP:OTHERSTUFF as a defense for the value of an article. Earthdirt (talk) 01:02, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
Please don't use WP:IDONTLIKEIT either. Stonemason89 (talk) 16:35, 30 December 2009 (UTC)

Kashi Company

5x expanded by Untitledmind72 (talk). Nominated by Untitledmind72 (talk) at 00:46, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

  • I applaud you on cleaning up that article and wikifing it; unfortunately, the article is not currently 5x expanded. Prose before expansion was 1063 and currently 970. articles need at least 1500 when newly created, and since its a 5x nominiation, would need to be approx 5315 in prose. Would further expansion be possible over the next few days? Calmer Waters 02:07, 27 December 2009 (UTC)
  • Art LaPella explained it great. You are getting close. currently at 4612 prose. The article right now is primarily sourced from first party references, fine for specific statements; however, the bulk of the article should be from sources independent of the company to ensure NPOV and no COI of the facts. If you can provide some material from these independent secondary sources you should be good to go. Kindly Calmer Waters 03:11, 30 December 2009 (UTC)

Christian August Thoring, John S. Tveit, Lars Vaage

Created by Geschichte (talk). Self nom at 23:48, 26 December 2009 (UTC)

Federación Obrera de la Industria de la Carne

Created by Soman (talk). Self nom at 22:49, 26 December 2009 (UTC)

I. M. Pei

I. M. Pei in 2006

  • ... that Chinese-American architect I. M. Pei (pictured) has been called "the most distinguished member of his Late-Modernist generation"?

5x expanded by Scartol (talk). Nominated by Scartol (talk) at 22:40, 26 December 2009 (UTC)

  • Date, expansion Ok, a potential FAC at 86k size. Great job, but IMO, the hook sounds a bit POVish (was called by whom - we don't know that from the hook?). There should be dozens alternative hooks in the article. Materialscientist (talk) 05:00, 27 December 2009 (UTC)
Yeah, there are lots of possibilities. Here are some alternatives:

ALT1 ... that Chinese-American architect I. M. Pei (pictured) chose to attend college in the United States partly because of the representations of higher learning in the movies of Bing Crosby?
ALT2 ... that Chinese-American architect I. M. Pei (pictured) made three secretive trips to Paris to prepare for his design of the Louvre Pyramid?
ALT3 ... that Chinese-American architect I. M. Pei (pictured) was the first foreign architect ever to work on the Louvre museum?
ALT4 ... that Chinese-American architect I. M. Pei (pictured) ordered a tunnel cut through the nearby mountain to create an unusual approach to the Miho Museum?
ALT5 ... that Chinese-American architect I. M. Pei (pictured) used his $100,000 award from the 1983 Pritzker Prize to create an architecture scholarship for Chinese students?

Thanks for your work on this! Scartol • Tok 12:22, 27 December 2009 (UTC)
I would AGF on the facts (the book is not accessible to me) and favor ALT3 or ALT4, certainly as the lead hook. Other opinions on this nom are welcome. Materialscientist (talk) 01:32, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

Rapperswil Castle

Rapperswil Castle as seen from Seedamm

Created by Roland zh (talk). Nominated by Nev1 (talk) at 20:11, 26 December 2009 (UTC)

Labour Party (Argentina)

Created by Soman (talk). Self nom at 19:35, 26 December 2009 (UTC)

  • I think the suggestion is that the hook should read:
(This alt version includes the article Labour Party (Argentina) which is the dyk article, no?) —mattisse (Talk) 20:45, 28 December 2009 (UTC)
Yes, of course. Sorry for missing that essential detail. --Soman (talk) 21:48, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

Mary Rose

The Mary Rose as depicted in the Anthony Roll

  • Comment: This DYK request is being made to coincide with a press release about an image donation from the Mary Rose Trust on January 3. It would therefore be beneficial if this could be dedicate a slot either on Jan 3 or 4, preferably during daytime CET. Not sure which would be better, but the latter would probably generate more hits. The proposed image is only a preliminary suggestion. One of the donated images will be presented as an alternative once it has been uploaded, which will probably be Jan 2. See also Misplaced Pages talk:Did you know#Scheduling a DYK date for further discussion. Peter 14:10, 26 December 2009 (UTC)
  • Hold for January 4, daytime CET? Sounds good. As a contributor, I know how fun it is to put multiple new articles in one hook, but as a reader I think the articles merit separate hooks. Most readers won't know the Mary Rose is a time capsule; or that the Anthony Roll shows Henry VIII's entire fleet, both sailing ships and those incredibly archaic oared galleys. --Una Smith (talk) 17:20, 26 December 2009 (UTC)
  • January 4 is a Monday. Misplaced Pages page views generally are far higher on Mondays than on Sundays, and the news media in general are idle on Sundays, so aim for Monday morning in Europe. --Una Smith (talk) 17:35, 26 December 2009 (UTC)
  • Sounds reasonable, including making two hooks. I should also add that Una contributed with content for the update Anthony Roll. Question is, should the two articles be in the same update or not? As a way to avoid two highly similar topics with separate hooks in the same update, it it possible to have them in two consecutive updates? For example, we could have the Mary Rose from 12-8 PM CET and the Anthony Roll in the update after that. That way we could attract additional American readers. Peter 13:44, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

Mary Rose lost in battle, 1545

Anthony Roll

The Galley Subtle as depicted in the Anthony Roll

  • ALT1 ... that the Anthony Roll (illustration pictured) is the only known fully illustrated list of Tudor navy ships?

William Bower Forwood

Created by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 12:53, 26 December 2009 (UTC)

Democratic Association of Victoria

Created by Soman (talk). Self nom at 10:28, 26 December 2009 (UTC)

Turtle farming

Chinese soft-shell turtles in Namdaemun Market, Seoul

Created by Vmenkov (talk). Self nom at 10:04, 26 December 2009 (UTC)

Further Adventures of Lad

Created by Collectonian (talk). Self nom at 08:52, 26 December 2009 (UTC)

Agat computer

  • ... that despite being a clone of the Apple II, the Soviet Agat computer cost as much as twenty times the average monthly Soviet salary?

5x expanded by Lankiveil (talk). Self nom at 07:19, 26 December 2009 (UTC)

Reaction (The Spectacular Spider-Man)

5x expanded by SuperFlash101 (talk). Nominated by SuperFlash101 (talk) at 04:58, 26 December 2009 (UTC)


Thurbrand the Hold

Created by Deacon of Pndapetzim (talk). Self nom at 10:58, 30 December 2009 (UTC)


Older nominations

Articles created/expanded on December 25

Symington Family Estates

  • Comment: Primary ref is Sotheby (FN#1) in lead but additional online ref has been provided too.

Created by Tomas e (talk), Agne27 (talk). Self nom at 22:35, 30 December 2009 (UTC)

Red Tail Project

Created by TonyTheTiger (talk). Nominated by TonyTheTiger (talk) at 03:37, 30 December 2009 (UTC)


Valpolicella

  • Comment: Primary ref is Italian Wine for Dummies (FN#9) but two online refs (FN#12 & FN#13) can provide some online details.

5x expanded by Agne27 (talk), SafeScience (talk). Self nom at 07:04, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

Blanche Cave

Created by Bilby (talk). Nominated by PFHLai (talk) at 23:35, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

Ole Kopreitan

Created by Geschichte (talk). Self nom at 22:47, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

A Letter to Lord Ellenborough

Created by Unitanode (talk). Self nom at 03:57, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

Why has this article not been checked? Is the hook too boring? I'm not quite sure what the problem with it is. UnitAnode 06:17, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

Peter P. Dubrovsky

Created by Leszek Jańczuk (talk). Self nom at 23:05, 26 December 2009 (UTC)

  • Length and date verified. However, the article needs copy editing, as it seems to have been translated from another language. Also, it is not clearly stated in the article that he collected the manuscripts during the French Revolution, as far as I could determine. Regards, —mattisse (Talk) 20:31, 27 December 2009 (UTC)
Dubrovsky saved manuscripts - at least some of them - from possible destruction. Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 21:25, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

Oryzomys gorgasi

Created by Ucucha (talk). Self nom at 18:42, 26 December 2009 (UTC)

The Gruffalo (film)

Created by 03md (talk). Nominated by 03md (talk) at 01:06, 26 December 2009 (UTC)

Deiva Zivarattinam

Created by Soman (talk). Self nom at 21:43, 25 December 2009 (UTC)

Kjell Erfjord

Created by Geschichte (talk). Self nom at 21:42, 25 December 2009 (UTC)

Marianne Borgen

Created by Geschichte (talk). Self nom at 20:51, 25 December 2009 (UTC)

Blumea balsamifera

Created/expanded by Bearian (talk). Nominated by Bearian (talk) at 20:13, 25 December 2009 (UTC)

HSS Stena Voyager

Created by Wexcan (talk). Nominated by Mjroots (talk) at 15:26, 25 December 2009 (UTC)

Inger Lise Husøy

Created by Geschichte (talk). Self nom at 14:14, 25 December 2009 (UTC)

Shankha

Carved shankhas

  • ... that due to its aquatic origin and resemblance to the vulva, the shankha (carved ones pictured) is linked with female fertility and is an integral part of the Tantric rites?

5x expanded by Nvvchar (talk), Redtigerxyz (talk). Nominated by Redtigerxyz (talk) at 12:40, 25 December 2009 (UTC)

Ragnar Kalheim

Created by Geschichte (talk). Self nom at 12:13, 25 December 2009 (UTC)

Robertson v. McGraw-Hill Co., Weiss, and Shepard

Created by Cla68 (talk). Self nom at 11:49, 25 December 2009 (UTC)

I believe the article will survive AfD. As for the contention on the talk page...well, that's another story. Cla68 (talk) 08:51, 26 December 2009 (UTC)

Lower Saxon Mill Road

Eyendorf windmill

  • ... that the Lower Saxon Mill Road is 2,800 kilometres long and links over 300 historic mills (example pictured) across North Germany?

Created by Bermicourt (talk). Nominated by Bermicourt (talk) at 11:11, 25 December 2009 (UTC)

  • Date and length are fine, but most of the article is unreferenced (we ask at least one ref. per paragraph) and many references are not in-lined or bare urls (ask at my talk if this is unclear). Reference 7, which supports the hook, doesn't lead to a certain article. Materialscientist (talk) 11:29, 25 December 2009 (UTC)
  • I have beefed up the references and added the specific reference for the hook. However the format of the page doesn't seem to be fully recognised in Misplaced Pages, so a direct doesn't work. That's presumably why de.wiki only linked to the landing page on which the actual reference can be clicked. Is there a way around this, other than quoting the reference without a direct link? Thanks. --Bermicourt (talk) 13:42, 25 December 2009 (UTC)

The article needs more work, but is Ok for DYK. Date, length, fact verified. Materialscientist (talk) 00:14, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

Mamajuda Island

  • ... that Mamajuda Island in the Detroit River, which once contained a lighthouse, has since been eroded away to nothing more than a few boulders seen only during times of low water levels?

Created by Notorious4life (talk). Self nom at 10:44, 25 December 2009 (UTC)

Temple Israel (Columbus, Ohio)

Created by Jayjg (talk). Self nom at 05:26, 25 December 2009 (UTC)

Jon Dorenbos

5x expanded by Eagles247 (talk). Self nom at 04:32, 25 December 2009 (UTC)

Added refs to each paragraph, and expanded a bit. Could you check it now? Eagles 24/7 (C) 19:24, 25 December 2009 (UTC)
4877/1108 ≠ 5, keep going you'll get there.--Giants27(Contribs|WP:CFL) 22:54, 25 December 2009 (UTC)
Expanded more, could you check again? Eagles 24/7 (C) 23:40, 25 December 2009 (UTC)
Got it. Anyone checking this article with DYKCheck will see that it says it hasn't been 5x expanded when in reality it has.--Giants27(Contribs|WP:CFL) 23:46, 25 December 2009 (UTC)
Ok now. Thanks. Expansion, date, fact verified (sorry, I saw the comment above only now). Materialscientist (talk) 23:47, 25 December 2009 (UTC)

Jolthead porgy

Created by Ryan shell (talk). Self nom at 02:56, 25 December 2009 (UTC)

Article creation date and length and hook length okay, but hook fact is not cited. Sasata (talk) 03:24, 25 December 2009 (UTC)
OK, just added the refs. happy holidays! Ryan shell (talk) 03:49, 25 December 2009 (UTC)
All ok now. Sasata (talk) 04:09, 25 December 2009 (UTC)

Eadred Lulisc

Created by Deacon of Pndapetzim (talk). Self nom at 17:37, 25 December 2009 (UTC)


Articles created/expanded on December 24

Kevin Rockett

Created by MichaelQSchmidt (talk). Self nom at 21:19, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

New Zealand flag debate

5x expanded by Kintetsubuffalo (talk). Nominated by Coldplay Expert (talk) at 01:54, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

  • Unfortunately, bulk of article lacks inline citations. Bare urls need expanded. Further work citing and extending references would need to be carried out before nomination would be ready for promotion. Calmer Waters 19:40, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

Howard Yerges

Created by Cbl62 (talk). Nominated by Cbl62 (talk) at 06:34, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

Lynn A. Davis

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Nominated by Billy Hathorn (talk) at 05:12, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

ALT1: ... that the crime-fighting Arkansas state police superintendent Lynn A. Davis was removed from office in 1968 for failure to meet a 10-year state residency requirement?
ALT2: ... that Arkansas Governor Winthrop Rockefeller hired FBI agent Lynn A. Davis in 1967 to clean up illegal gambling in the resort city of Hot Springs?

Riverside Theater (Jacksonville)

Created by Mgreason (talk). Nominated by PFHLai (talk) at 22:54, 26 December 2009 (UTC)

Al Ater

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 01:00, 25 December 2009 (UTC)

Marion Butler

Senator Marion Butler

Created/expanded by Cdtew (talk). Self nom at 00:55, 25 December 2009 (UTC)

Parachute (song)

5x expanded by WossOccurring (talk). Nominated by WossOccurring (talk) at 18:45, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

1938–39 Oregon Ducks men's basketball team

Created by Giants2008 (talk). Nominated by Giants2008 (talk) at 18:03, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

Farnham Maxwell-Lyte

Farnham Maxwell-Lyte

Created by Ericoides (talk). Self nom at 15:32, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

Um Savuth

Created by Svejk74 (talk). Self nom at 10:23, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

Harry McGee

Created by Candlewicke (talk). Self nom at 04:44, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

Bramble Bay

5x expanded by Shiftchange (talk). Self nom at 04:01, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

Article has been expanded to meet criteria. The expansion is now 5.84x. - Shiftchange (talk) 13:48, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

Madras Presidency legislative council election, 1930

5x expanded by CarTick (talk). Nominated by CarTick (talk) at 22:10, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on December 23

Japanese prisoners of war in World War II

Created by Nick-D (talk). Self nom at 01:30, 26 December 2009 (UTC)

  • Offline ref for prohibition part accepted AGF, the rest is verified. However, since the actual number is disputed, I suggest the following alternative:
≈ Chamal  14:19, 26 December 2009 (UTC)
  • Comment 'several thousand' is understating things somewhat; the lowest figure I've been able to find is 19,500, the main English-language book on this topic states that about 35,000 surrendered and the 50,000 figure is from a reputable (if controversial) historian. Given the popular view that almost no Japanese surrendered, the numbers are an important part of the hook. Nick-D (talk) 22:58, 26 December 2009 (UTC
  • Isn't the tag slightly misleading anyway regardless of how you state the number? By the evidence probably many more than that actually surrendered, only to be killed soon afterward, and are thus not included in those statistics. They also make the aparent implication in the phrase, that the prohibition was the most important, misleading. See Allied_war_crimes_during_World_War_II#The_Pacific, e.g. Ferguson suggests that "it was not only the fear of disciplinary action or of dishonor that deterred German and Japanese soldiers from surrendering. More important for most soldiers was the perception that prisoners would be killed by the enemy anyway, and so one might as well fight on." and in 1943, "a secret intelligence report noted that only the promise of ice cream and three days leave would ... induce American troops not to kill surrendering Japanese."--Stor stark7 20:19, 28 December 2009 (UTC)
  • Please stop your POV-pushing. The sources I've cited in the article - which include the standard works on Japanese POWs, several journal articles and a recent scholarly book on the Japanese Army - clearly state that the Japanese cultural norm against surrender was the dominant reason explaining so few Japanese troops attempted to surrender. Nick-D (talk) 22:14, 28 December 2009 (UTC)
  • I've just checked the source you give (the Niall Ferguson article) and he also clearly states that the Japanese military indoctrinated its men to never surrender, and this led to few doing so (p. 174 and p. 186). Ferguson's subsequent claim that the perception that surrendering would lead to death anyway (for which he provides no supporting citations) appears to be something of an unusual view, and runs against the other sources. Nick-D (talk) 22:52, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

List of Montserrat national football team results

Created by BigDom (talk). Self nom at 05:44, 25 December 2009 (UTC)

Ripeness in viticulture

  • Comment: Primary ref is Oxford (FN#2) in Physiological ripeness section. However there is an online ref (FN#5) from UC Davis that is used to confirm that some but not all variety change color in the stems that can give some online collaboration.

Created by Agne27 (talk). Self nom at 20:44, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

Montana (Mesoamerican site)

5x expanded by Simon Burchell (talk). Self nom at 10:42, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

Thomas Day (North Carolina)

Created by Cdtew (talk). Nominated by Self nom at 06:33, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

Updated the article with a better book source for this fact --> Powell's North Carolina Through Four Centuries is the only authoritative, comprehensive text produced on North Carolina history to date; in addition, the author is a native of Caswell County and wrote a seperate history of the county while a tenured professor at UNC. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cdtew (talkcontribs) 16:04, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

Giovanni Battista Calvi

Created by Ecemaml (talk). Nominated by Gibmetal77 (talk) at 00:35, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

Alice Greenough Orr

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 21:50, 23 December 2009 (UTC)

ALT... that Alice Greenough Orr became a rodeo star after she found her preferred job of forest ranger largely unavailable to women during the era after World War I?

La Cima del Cielo

Created by Jaespinoza (talk) 20:32, 23 December 2009 (UTC). Self nom at 20:31, 23 December 2009 (UTC)

Beecraft Wee Bee

  • ... that the 1940s Beecraft Wee Bee ultralight monoplane lacked any internal room for a pilot who had to fly it lying prone on top of the fuselage?

Created by MilborneOne (talk). Self nom at 20:12, 23 December 2009 (UTC)

Mein Leben (Wagner)

Wagner family crest

Created by Smerus (talk). Self nom at 15:39, 23 December 2009 (UTC)

OK here goes:

Maharishi University of Management stabbing

Created by Will Beback (talk). Self nom at 10:50, 23 December 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for checking It's buried a bit. In the "Context" section there's a blockquote from the university's website, which reads

Crime prevention is one of the seven founding goals of the University: "To solve the age-old problem of crime and all behavior that brings unhappiness to the family of man." All students and administrators practice the Transcendental Meditation and TM-Sidhi programs which are designed to help eliminate criminal tendencies and behavior at their root cause.

The movement frequently asserts that the practice of their techniques creates a field of coherence that blocks negative energies, such as those that lead to crime.   Will Beback  talk  20:55, 28 December 2009 (UTC)
I'm nor sure why this collage of information would be any more appropriate than  WP:OR and an ensuing case of POV. A student is killed at a university by a mentally ill student, the only case if its kind in its history. Then connect that to the goals of the university creating a tone that seems somewhat more snide than neutral, implies information about the university and its goals, and is above all not even remotely a neutral view of this situation.  I'm surprised buy this nomination, and truthfully, disgusted. It reads like something out of a tabloid.(olive (talk) 00:37, 29 December 2009 (UTC))
The connection was made by journalists writing in reliable sources and hasn't been contested by editors of the article.   Will Beback  talk  00:41, 29 December 2009 (UTC)
I have contested the weight given this information relative to the importance in the university history. I contested the creation of another article on the subject that I feel violates WP:UNIGUIDE, and I contest editing that creates blatant implication. if you feel compelled to make this murder a DYK point please do it in a manner that lends dignity to the person who died, the institution and the grief it experienced, and the encyclopedia. Source it but don't imply it.(olive (talk) 00:52, 29 December 2009 (UTC))
To address Littleolive oil's concern, I've proposed an alternate hook that focuses on the international attention, and is shorter to boot.   Will Beback  talk  01:21, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

I am keen to reconsider, but there are at least two issues (i) "Crime" and stabbings, in this context, imply something wide-scale and repeating - this is by far not the case (a sudden act by a single person) (ii) The hook sounds as an accusation to the university, which I don't see enough grounds for (iii) minor: a couple of refs are not formatted. Materialscientist (talk) 01:44, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

To reply: (i) It was two separate acts by a individual, not a single, sudden act, hence the plural. (ii) The irony of the stabbings at a place founded to reduce crime is probably what attracted some of the attention to the case. (iii) The unformatted links are to a primary source that we're probably going to drop. They aren't used for any part of this hook.   Will Beback  talk  02:06, 29 December 2009 (UTC)
I would agree with the comment that this DYK is based on an irony. Irony is not significant or notable, and is not worthy of this project. Despite the adjustments this still reads like a tabloid, and this is an encyclopedia.(olive (talk) 02:57, 29 December 2009 (UTC))
Yes, its two separate acts of violence but on the same day, committed by the same mentally ill person. There are many crimes that have drawn International attention and many have ironic or bizarre circumstances. Is this the kind of tabloid fare we want to propagate on an encyclopedic website? -- — KbobTalk03:36, 29 December 2009 (UTC)
Is there anything in the hook that's incorrect? DYK's usually pick out the most interesting details of an article. I don't see anyone suggesting alternatives.   Will Beback  talk  03:53, 29 December 2009 (UTC)
Is there an alternative to a tabloid besides the garbage. If you are intent on posting something on this topic and making a DYK out of it, I suggest you find something that is fitting for this encyclopedia. There is no onus on me or anyone else to help you do that. I'm not editing an article here. I'm asking that a DYK that is not appropriate, not be posted. Although I generally like to be helpful, in this case I can't agree and can't offer support.(olive (talk) 04:43, 29 December 2009 (UTC))
This isn't a vote.
DYK hooks routinely take the most interesting details from an article. Here's one from a couple fo days ago:
  • DYK... that even after Peter Sutcliffe was convicted of the "Yorkshire Ripper" murders, Assistant Chief Constable George Oldfield maintained that taunting letters and tape from Wearside Jack were connected to the case?
  • DYK... that Mark-Anthony Turnage composed Twice Through the Heart after being given a video of a programme about a woman who killed her husband?
I don't see how this is so different.   Will Beback  talk  05:35, 29 December 2009 (UTC)
  • Re the plural, if we say "fatal stabbings", to my ears that sounds as though several people died. There was only one fatal stabbing, and the article title itself has singular number too. --JN466 12:03, 29 December 2009 (UTC)
Good point, I hadn't noticed that error. Below is a revised version.  Will Beback  talk  12:36, 29 December 2009 (UTC)
Suggest dropping "resulted in one death" to improve the flow and to focus the hook. Materialscientist (talk) 12:44, 29 December 2009 (UTC)
Several wrongs do not make a right. Using sensationalist hooks does not honour Misplaced Pages. Its a cheap trick in the newspaper business and its a cheap trick here. We are "selling" knowledge not newspapers so one would assume we don't need tricks that cheapen. However, if this hook is going to be used, the changes made are an improvement. Thanks for considering and implementing them. (olive (talk) 15:26, 29 December 2009 (UTC))
DYK highlights unusual facts that readers are likely to find interesting, and this hook fits the bill. I do agree with matsci however that the phrase referencing the fatality serves no purpose and can be dispensed with. Gatoclass (talk) 15:51, 29 December 2009 (UTC)
Agree with Matsci and Gato that the "resulted in one death" phrase. I am also concerned with the sensational nature of the hook. --BwB (talk) 17:55, 29 December 2009 (UTC)
Revised per the above suggestions. Is this acceptable to all?   Will Beback  talk  00:50, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
I think "stabbings" plural is misleading. Not trying to be stubborn, but I think its sensationalist. Still its a big improvement. Thanks for your openness.(olive (talk) 01:37, 30 December 2009 (UTC))

ALTx

Revised per Olive. There were two stabbings, but only one was fatal.   Will Beback  talk  01:47, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
I prefer this. We'd all agree that the first stabbing would have drawn no international attention at all, had it not been followed by the second. --JN466 02:25, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
for ALTx. Materialscientist (talk) 02:31, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
Personally I think it should remain "stabbings". The first victim after all required stitches to his face, naming it "stabbing" suggests he wasn't a victim of a quite serious assault. Gatoclass (talk) 15:15, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
Hm.. true, but I feel this is the case when one word can't express the story - here "stabbing" refers to a number of incidents rather than the number of actual strikes; IMO, those were two closely related incidents, i.e. closer to one than to multiple case. Materialscientist (talk) 06:40, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on December 22

The Irish Filmography

  • ... that The Irish Filmography is considered the reference source for nearly 2,000 films made from 1896 to 1996 in Ireland, or about Ireland and the Irish?

Created by Aardvarkzz (talk), MichaelQSchmidt (talk). Nominated by MichaelQSchmidt (talk) at 21:26, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

Chłopomania

Painter and playwright Stanisław Wyspiański with peasant wife

  • Comment: Collaborative effort of two editors: User:Halibutt who started the article on 22 December 2009 (1,314 bytes), and User:Dahn who expanded it seven-fold (8,013 bytes) in just 3 days. I added the pic and some leads and refs. New article caught at the last moment.

Created by Halibutt (talk). Nominated by Poeticbent (talk) at 07:47, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

Jigsaw (wrestler)

Created/expanded by Nikki311 (talk) and Afkatk (talk). Nominated by Secret Saturdays (talk) at 18:54, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

Circuit MOM

Created by Gych (talk). Nominated by Secret Saturdays (talk) at 18:54, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

Charles Eaton (RAAF officer)

Created by Ian Rose (talk). Self nom by Ian Rose (talk) 07:09, 23 December 2009 (UTC)

Three responses:

For the whole article: Length and date verified. This thing deserves to be at GAN, but I'll do the job here.

Main Hook: That one's good- offline source accepted in good faith.
Alt1: That fact is uncited in the article. DYK rules require in-line cites after the hook facts
Alt2: Same story as the main hook. Bradjamesbrown (talk) 17:54, 30 December 2009 (UTC)

Société Ramond

Pic du Midi de Bigorre observatory

Created by Ericoides (talk). Self nom at 19:42, 22 December 2009 (UTC)

hook, ref and date are confirmed. Dincher (talk) 14:39, 23 December 2009 (UTC)

Keith Nichol

Created by Richard (talk). Nominated by Richard (talk) at 17:09, 22 December 2009 (UTC)

Leod

Arms of MacLeod of MacLeod

Created by Brianann MacAmhlaidh (talk). Self nom at 10:21, 22 December 2009 (UTC)

Y.

Created by Jaespinoza (talk) 08:22, 22 December 2009 (UTC). Self nom at 08:22, 22 December 2009 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on December 21

Château des Rohan (Mutzig)

Main entrance of the castle

Created by RCS (talk). Nominated by RCS (talk) at 09:54, 22 December 2009 (UTC)

Alternate version: ... that Mutzig's Château des Rohan (pictured) belonged to several families of noblemen and bishops of Strasbourg before being turned into a rifle factory after the French Revolution? --RCS (talk) 19:53, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

Big Daddy's House

5x expanded by Hunter Kahn (talk). Nominated by Hunter Kahn (talk) at 04:50, 22 December 2009 (UTC)

  • Length, date, and hook verified. I remember watching him win the competition, but I've never actually caught the show. Surprising considering how much the Food Network is on in my house. Bradjamesbrown (talk) 08:34, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

Johan Kling

  • ... that Johan Kling, a Swedish filmmaker whose career started with making TV shows and McDonald's commercials, won the award for best Swedish film for his debut movie, Darling?

Created by Flowbird (talk) and Drmies (talk). Nominated by Drmies (talk) at 23:26, 21 December 2009 (UTC)

Winchester Model 1911

  • ... that the mechanism of the Winchester Model 1911, an autoloading shotgun made from 1911 to 1925, is so tricky that in 2005 four people shot themselves accidentally while clearing the weapon?

Created by Cijjag (talk) and Drmies (talk). Nominated by Drmies (talk) at 23:10, 21 December 2009 (UTC)

  • Can we really point that out as an example of a safety flaw of the weapon? The hook sounds like they tried to clean a loaded weapon, in which case you can hardly blame the weapon for going off. ≈ Chamal (sock)  02:06, 24 December 2009 (UTC)
  • Oops, my bad :P I read that as "cleaning" and not "clearing". Hook fact is verified then, but the article doesn't actually mention the deputies and jailor, so I have changed the hook slightly. ≈ Chamal  ¤ 05:50, 30 December 2009 (UTC)

Bear's Paw Hotel, Frodsham

Created by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 18:26, 21 December 2009 (UTC)

WROV-TV

Created by 66.102.80.212 (talk). Nominated by Bradjamesbrown (talk) at 05:11, 21 December 2009 (UTC)

Southside Connector

  • ... that plans were shelved for the Southside Connector over concerns that it would pollute aquifers that were later found to be polluted inadvertently by the military?
  • Comment: I think there is a better way to say that, so please fix it if you can.

Created by Ktr101 (talk). Nominated by Ktr101 (talk) at 04:58, 21 December 2009 (UTC)

INFORM (Information Network Focus on Religious Movements)

Created by Jayen466 (talk). Self nom at 03:03, 21 December 2009 (UTC)

Barbarian: The Ultimate Warrior

5x expanded by Jappalang (talk). Self nom at 02:47, 21 December 2009 (UTC)

  • ALT1: ... that 1987 video game Barbarian provoked more outrage in the United Kingdom for its boxcover featuring a bikini-clad model known for topless poses than for its brutal combat with decapitations?
  • ALT2: ... that if players of the video game Barbarian do not move their controllers for a while, the game's characters will face the players and gesture at them to continue playing?
Diff of 5x expansion (238 to 1728 words) for easy reference. Jappalang (talk) 02:50, 21 December 2009 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on December 20

History of the Genoese in Gibraltar

Created by 3leopard (talk) and Gibmetal77 (talk). Nominated by Gibmetal77 (talk) at 20:26, 25 December 2009 (UTC)

Petlyakov Pe-3

  • ... that the 9th Bomber Regiment was tasked to lead groups of Soviet fighters and attack aircraft (over 2000 aircraft in total) to their targets during 1941 because their pilots could not navigate on their own?

5x expanded by Sturmvogel 66 (talk). Nominated by Sturmvogel 66 (talk) at 05:47, 23 December 2009 (UTC)

Not that I know of. That's a good change as I did completely forget about the tie-in into the article.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 03:35, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

The Fattest Man in Britain

Created by Jack1956 (talk). Nominated by Jack1956 (talk) at 10:01, 22 December 2009 (UTC)

Over the Top (TV series)

Created by VinnieRattolle (talk). Nominated by Sarilox (talk) at 01:04, 22 December 2009 (UTC)

Van Rensselaer Lower Manor House

  • Comment: This would work best with the picture

Created by Daniel Case (talk). Nominated by Daniel Case (talk) at 18:32, 21 December 2009 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on December 19

1895 Michigan Wolverines football team

1895 player Forrest Hall

Created by Cbl62 (talk). Nominated by Cbl62 (talk) at 17:19, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

  • These five articles were originally submitted as part of a single hook on Dec. 23. I inferred from the lack of comment that the combined hook was pretty boring, so I've split them into separate, and hopefully more interesting, hooks. Cbl62 (talk) 17:29, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

Special occasion holding area

Note: Articles nominated for a special occasion should be nominated within five days of creation or expansion as usual (with the exception of April Fools'). Also, articles should be nominated at least five days before the occasion to give reviewers time to check the nomination.

Articles created/expanded for January 10

Chopard Diamond award

Rod Stewart in 1976

  • Comment: Rod Stewart's 65th birthday is on January 10.

5x expanded by Pyrrhus16 (talk). Nominated by Pyrrhus16 (talk) at 18:14, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded for Australia Day (January 26)

Would this be good? If so I'd be ok with moving it to over here :). Not sure if the article has to be Australia-related or Australia DAY related... ResMar 00:14, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded for Republic Day in India (January 26)

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