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| 5.- The 'Martian Spider' web page has dozens of images of radial troughs or channels with identical morphology to Dark Dune Spots (DDS); some examples: , , , , , , , , , ] (]) 23:43, 1 September 2009 (UTC) | 5.- The 'Martian Spider' web page has dozens of images of radial troughs or channels with identical morphology to Dark Dune Spots (DDS); some examples: , , , , , , , , , ] (]) 23:43, 1 September 2009 (UTC) | ||
| :'''Strongly oppose''', at least in the current wording: | |||
| ::*Sources 1,2,3 do not provide any evidence that spiders and DDS are the same thing. They clearly talk of them as separate objects: in 1 there is this listing: ''"Various polar albedo features appear on Mars in springtime, like spiders ,dark spots, Dalmatian spots, and Dark Dune Spots (DDSs)"'' ; 2 provide some evidence of a theory about them being related but again not of being synonimous; 3 connects them in time (but doesn't say it's the same thing!only different phases of the same phenomenon) in Fig.5 which is described by authors as an ''highly hypothetical evolutionary scheme''. | |||
| ::*Merging on the basis of points 4 and 5 falls within ] and as such does not look acceptable. | |||
| :If there is good scientific consensus on a phenomenon that describes them both where they can be merged, all good, but the current sources do not seem to indicate that. --] (]) 09:04, 2 September 2009 (UTC) | |||
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DDS dynamics? Huh?
Hello, could someone please explain DDS dynamics in the article, or find the appropriate article to link to? There isn't any article on DDS dynamics right now. Thank you. LovesMacs (talk) 19:57, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
- Oops! DDS = Dark Dune Spots. -BatteryIncluded (talk) 04:45, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
Merger proposal with Martian spiders.
Merger proposal with Martian spiders because it is thought that the "spider webs" and the Martian dark dune spots may be related features caused by the same phenomena. In other words, it is evident that different researchers give different names to the same features. See: "NASA Findings Suggest Jets Bursting From Martian Ice Cap". Jet Propulsion Laboratory. NASA. August 16, 2006. Retrieved 2009-08-11. {{cite news}}: Cite has empty unknown parameter: |coauthors= (help)
Cheers, BatteryIncluded (talk) 03:41, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
Scientific sources to this:
1.- Kereszturi, A., ed. (2009), "POSSIBLE LIQUID-LIKE WATER PRODUCED SEEPAGE FEATURES ON MARS." (PDF), 40th. Lunar and Planetary Science Conference (2009), retrieved 2009-08-12 {{citation}}: |format= requires |url= (help); Cite has empty unknown parameter: |coauthors= (help); Unknown parameter |coeditors= ignored (help)
2.- "NASA Findings Suggest Jets Bursting From Martian Ice Cap". Jet Propulsion Laboratory. NASA. August 16, 2006. Retrieved 2009-08-11. {{cite news}}: Cite has empty unknown parameter: |coauthors= (help)
3.- Bérczi, Sz., ed. (2004), "STRATIGRAPHY OF SPECIAL LAYERS – TRANSIENT ONES ON PERMEABLE ONES: EXAMPLES" (PDF), Lunar and Planetary Science XXXV (2004), retrieved 2009-08-12 {{citation}}: |format= requires |url= (help); Cite has empty unknown parameter: |coauthors= (help); Unknown parameter |coeditors= ignored (help)
4.- They are unusual dark spots, fans and blotches, with small radial channel networks often associated with the location of spots. Ref:Kieffer, Hugh H. (30 May 2006). "CO2 jets formed by sublimation beneath translucent slab ice in Mars' seasonal south polar ice cap". Nature. 442: 793–796. Error: Bad DOI specified!. Retrieved 2009-09-02. {{cite journal}}: Unknown parameter |coauthors= ignored (|author= suggested) (help)
5.- The 'Martian Spider' web page has dozens of images of radial troughs or channels with identical morphology to Dark Dune Spots (DDS); some examples: , , , , , , , , , BatteryIncluded (talk) 23:43, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
- Strongly oppose, at least in the current wording:
- Sources 1,2,3 do not provide any evidence that spiders and DDS are the same thing. They clearly talk of them as separate objects: in 1 there is this listing: "Various polar albedo features appear on Mars in springtime, like spiders ,dark spots, Dalmatian spots, and Dark Dune Spots (DDSs)" ; 2 provide some evidence of a theory about them being related but again not of being synonimous; 3 connects them in time (but doesn't say it's the same thing!only different phases of the same phenomenon) in Fig.5 which is described by authors as an highly hypothetical evolutionary scheme.
- Merging on the basis of points 4 and 5 falls within WP:OR and as such does not look acceptable.
- If there is good scientific consensus on a phenomenon that describes them both where they can be merged, all good, but the current sources do not seem to indicate that. --Cyclopia (talk) 09:04, 2 September 2009 (UTC)