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| == August 2009 == | |||
| Hi, thanks for your reply on my talk page about my concerns regarding your AfD nomination. Whilst I always try and ], I find it difficult to see how you could have followed the ] guidelines when nominating ] for ]. Given that the article had asserted the subjects notability when it was first created (albeit in a small way, with the line ''"Franciszek Przysiężniak (nom de guerre "Ojciec Jan", "Father John) (born September 22, 1909, in the village of Krupe, near Krasnystaw, died September 30, 1975 in Jarosław) - was a lieutenant in the Polish Army, an officer of anti-communist resistance groups National Military Organization (NOW) and National Military Union (NZW)"'', and wasn't therefore eligible for a CSD, I felt that more of an effort should have been put into finding additional sources and references before the AfD nomination. I hope this explains the comments I left on the ]. Thanks. ] (]) 14:49, 17 August 2009 (UTC) | |||
| :I can't see the notability there. A lieutenant doesn't seem like a very notable person, but if I've misunderstood the importance of that rank in those organizations, I'm terribly sorry. ] (]) 14:51, 17 August 2009 (UTC) | |||
| ::It's the ''assertion'' of notability that would've meant a speedy would have been declined (ie, it was asserted he was a lieutenant), so AfD was the correct place to take it if there were worries about its notability. It's the very short amount of time between the article's creation and nomination for deletion that concerned me. ] (]) 15:01, 17 August 2009 (UTC) | |||
| :::I do New Pages Patrol, and that's why I found it so quickly. I'm no deletionist, and I don't consider getting the article deleted a "win". But there's a lot of new pages that are about people who just don't matter. It get's silly. As a result, I take them to AfD or put them up for speedy. (I've found I don't like the PROD tag). ] (]) 15:07, 17 August 2009 (UTC) | |||
| ::::I used to do NPP a little bit too, but got frustrated with it for the same reasons. A better thing to do might just be to put the page on your watchlist if its not a CSD candidate and see if grows any over a day or so. If not, put it up for deletion. ] (]) 15:17, 17 August 2009 (UTC) | |||
| == Enneagram articles == | |||
| Hi, ], I noticed that you'd added a mass of cleanup templates to ], ] and ] and for a brief moment I thought a vandal had stuck. :) | |||
| The enneagram is not simply a polygon or nonagon as you suggest: the Fourth Way version is also inscribed in a circle. Compare pentagon, pentagram, pentangle (and for that matter pentacle). | |||
| Yes, the articles have issues and editing seems only sporadic. Matters were confused to some extent when an editor split off all the Gurdjieff/Fourth Way material into another article, leaving the ] article an incomplete mish-mash. | |||
| The Enneagram article started off about Gurdjieff and others' use of what they called the enneagram; then someone added the pseudo-maths; and finally someone decided to move the original material to another article :D | |||
| Please be aware, however, that ] and ] may '''''also''''' need expert attention, eg someone who's well-read in the areas of ] and the ], amongst other things. Just a thought. Good luck, <b><font color="green">]</font>+<font color="blue">]</font></b> 17:22, 17 August 2009 (UTC) | |||
| Why not ditch the geometry material (which is in nonagon anyhow) and replace it with the material in Fourth Way Enneagram, with a redirect to Enneagram from that article and a page top link to Nonagon ? <b><font color="green">]</font>+<font color="blue">]</font></b> 19:01, 17 August 2009 (UTC) | |||
| :That's along the lines of what I was thinking of doing. Along with rewriting some of the description to sound a little less... strange. I'm just looking for resources. ] (]) 20:10, 17 August 2009 (UTC) | |||
| ::Thanks and good luck, <b><font color="green">]</font>+<font color="blue">]</font></b> 20:26, 17 August 2009 (UTC) | |||
| :::I thought the old version was better, especially since it had included the isogonal enneagram faces of the ], which wasn't in ] and had good reasons for not doing so: I doubt icosahedral stellations have much to do with enneagons at first sight! Anyway, I reverted back to the old version by 1ForTheMoney. If you have any objections to this, you can discuss it at ]. Thanks! --] (]) 12:29, 20 August 2009 (UTC) | |||
| == First wave of edits involving Enneagram == | |||
| ], you wrote: "You might want to take a look at them, you seemed interested." | |||
| :Many thanks for your efforts, I can see the moves and will have a look tomorrow (UK time) as I'm really bushed after a load of html validation twiddling. Am about to turn in for the night. <b><font color="green">]</font>+<font color="blue">]</font></b> 21:52, 18 August 2009 (UTC) | |||
| ::No problem, let me know when you do look. ] (]) 21:53, 18 August 2009 (UTC) | |||
| Just had a quick look. Judging by the many folk I know who've come across "enneagram" in the writing of folk like Gurjieff, Ouspensky and others into the Fourth Way, and the Sufi Idries Shah, I would say that 99% would type in "enneagram" and expect to get to Fourth Way material or enneagram of personality. If nothing else, via a disambugation page or disambiguation entry. It's really little to do with nonagon. | |||
| Anyhow, must dash. <b><font color="green">]</font>+<font color="blue">]</font></b> 22:13, 18 August 2009 (UTC) | |||
| == "I've been here for 18 months and have over 3,000 edits" == | == "I've been here for 18 months and have over 3,000 edits" == | ||
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| Many thanks for your help in getting the thing sorted, it's appreciated. <b><font color="green">]</font>+<font color="blue">]</font></b> 08:46, 21 August 2009 (UTC) | Many thanks for your help in getting the thing sorted, it's appreciated. <b><font color="green">]</font>+<font color="blue">]</font></b> 08:46, 21 August 2009 (UTC) | ||
| ==Hello Irb== | == Hello Irb == | ||
| Good to see you again. | Good to see you again. | ||
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"I've been here for 18 months and have over 3,000 edits"
How come user page is less than 2 months old (or do I read the index wrong)? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.6.232.204 (talk) 10:04, 19 August 2009 (UTC)
Mine is less than 2 months old. Soxwon, above, has been around that long. Look at who's signing these things. ;) Irbisgreif (talk) 11:39, 19 August 2009 (UTC)
Welcome to the Article Rescue Squad!
Two welcomes? Thanks! Irbisgreif (talk) 01:58, 20 August 2009 (UTC)
- Didn't see they had added it already, deleted the spare. -- Banjeboi 02:42, 20 August 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks for the sentiment, at any rate. Irbisgreif (talk) 03:00, 20 August 2009 (UTC)
Please see this proposed move
Please see Talk:Nonagram#Requested_move. Someone wants to move nonagram to enneagram. Can you have your say, too, please. Many thanks, Esowteric+Talk 18:24, 20 August 2009 (UTC)
- Suggestion. If you oppose, please make sure you also have a reason to oppose a move to Enneagram (shape). Georgia guy (talk) 18:34, 20 August 2009 (UTC)
Many thanks for your help in getting the thing sorted, it's appreciated. Esowteric+Talk 08:46, 21 August 2009 (UTC)
Hello Irb
Good to see you again.
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Good news, we are building our first newsletter and should sent out this weekend, keep an eye out for it! Ikip (talk) 21:17, 22 August 2009 (UTC)
- Already signed up :). Irbisgreif (talk) 22:21, 22 August 2009 (UTC)
Falun Gong articles
I noticed that you have been proposing redundant images and those potentially violating copyright formerly used in Falun Gong articles for deletion. You might like to review these again, as there has been considerable cleaning up of the articles recently, and more such images may need deletion. Thank you for your attention. Ohconfucius (talk) 08:22, 23 August 2009 (UTC)