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George Tiller

George Tiller was not vandalized by User:63.116.172.99, as the edit was repeated by User:This flag once was red. Therefore, you protected the article for no reason. D: --168.169.33.40 (talk) 12:07, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

The article had received multiple instances of vandalism. That two editors replaced "murder" with "death" doesn't change that. I support Nja247's protection of the article. Cheers, This flag once was red_deeds 12:12, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

Ok. --168.169.150.89 (talk) 13:42, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

CrossBooks Publishing Page

I'm confused and frustrated. I modeled my page contribution this morning after Xulon Press. I linked internally and externally. What am I missing to get this page publishing and live?

Thanks, Ben. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Solutionsonly (talk • contribs) 15:01, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

I suggest looking over WP:NPOV; WP:N and WP:COI. Thank you. Nja 06:34, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

Cuba Florida trees

• Not disagreeing with the final outcome, but I recall that a recent policy change said that you admins have to wait seven days before closing a debate. And before you say it, 3 votes isn't a snowball. Mandsford (talk) 20:34, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

Never mind, I didn't realize that it's been seven days. My bad. Mandsford (talk) 20:40, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

Unprotection

Hello, can you unproctect Methamphetamine? I'll watch the article. Thanks, NonvocalScream (talk) 20:46, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

Done. Nja 08:48, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

Hi, I recently requested unprotection for the song Like a Surgeon (Ciara song) on WP:RFPP. However, no one has replied. I was hoping you could help me. The details for it are on WP:RFPP. —Preceding unsigned comment added by TrEeMaNsHoE (talk • contribs) 18:43, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

Already done by another admin. Nja 08:48, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Junior Eurovision Dance Contest

Hi. Thanks for closing this. There was a third article, Junior Eurovision Dance Contest 2010, which I added to the nomination during the debate, but which is clearly part of the same hoax and needs to go too. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 11:07, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

Missed it and now deleted. Cheers, Nja 11:09, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

Hannibal resolution

Please accept my apologies if this is the wrong place to post, but I've never contacted an admin before. For your consideration in this case...

user: TruHeir complains that I "added a bust of a roman solider as Hannibal" and that "the image in question itself clearly stated that it may not be authentic... but this editor has changed to writing and has added illegitimate "sources" to try to justify it. These so called sources however are not even related to and do not even mention the image of the roman solider, He/she is trying to pass of as Hannibal" (all sic).

The text accompanying the image stated "A Roman marble bust of Hannibal originally found at the ancient city-state of Capua in Italy. This image may not be authentic." Apart from the mention of Capua (though see below, Matyszak), this agrees with the wording of the source (Adrian Goldsworthy (2001) Cannae p.24): "A bust which may be a representation of Hannibal in later life, although there are no definite images of him". The Goldsworthy reference has been attached to the image for months, so TH's contention that when reverting her/his edits I "added illegitimate sources... not even related to and do not even mention the image" is false on many levels. They have repeatedly deleted this correctly sourced image despite the fact that each time I restored it I directed their attention toward the citation and directed them toward the discussion page, where their doubts could be addressed properly. They have done neither.

Other reputable and published sources (4 scholars, and one refering to the museum which possesses the bust) either agree with Goldsworthy's assessment (maybe not Hannibal) or give that the bust is of Hannibal (see below). Contrary to what TH avers, no source states that the image is not of Hannibal or make the suggestion that the image is that of a Roman (!). TH's opinion is thus OR.

Adrian Goldsworthy The Fall of Carthage cover (2000): "Hannibal in later life". Serge Lancel Hannibal cover (1995): "Roman bust of Hannibal. Museo Archeologico Nazionale. Naples". Philip Matyszak Chronicle of the Roman Republic p.95 (2003): "Bust, thought to be of Hannibal, found in Capua". Brian Todd Carey Hannibal's Last Battle: Zama and the Fall of Carthage (2007) also uses the image as its cover illustration.

I have passed on this information to TH (and their sock account (?)) and have asked her/him to provide sources that support their opinion that the bust "is not authentic and definately not of hannibal (sic)".

As I do not want to be seen as possibly continuing an edit war, I would appreciate it if you could restore the image whereupon I could add these further references.

Apologies for the length of this post, but a lot was in need of clarification. Many thanks for your time and consideration. Catiline63 (talk) 15:48, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

I've made some recommendations on your talk page. Cheers, Nja 20:42, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

Hello I thought I was making progess and working this issue out with catline63, but she has now she went on the articles talk page and basically called me a sock puppet. Clearly this isn't going anywhere and I'm not going to further have a duscussion with someone who is going to insult me, so I'm asking admins to intervene on this matter. Thank you TruHeir (talk) 03:21, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

Hiya. The advice noted directly above applies equally to you. Thus seek a third opinion or if all else fails open a request for comment on the dispute. There's no need for admin intervention as you both should be able to sort it through use of the dispute resolution system. Cheers, Nja 06:53, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

I see now I understand what you mean, I'll list the sources insteadTruHeir (talk) 14:53, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

Thanks very much!

For blocking those two IPs. --Brad Polard (talk) 20:37, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

No problem mate, but note that this may actually egg them on in the future. Thus you may wish to remove the comment or consider changing it to prevent yourself from being a continued target. Regardless I do hope you have a good experience and future on Misplaced Pages. Cheers, Nja 20:42, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for that. The only reason why I left those comments was because I want him to be aware of the consequences for those actions. Thanks for the advice though. --Brad Polard (talk) 20:53, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

Thanks and....

Thanks for blocking User:Morrowness, for some reason the page Hayden Jamieson isn't showing up in their contribs (maybe the database server lag), but it's still there, you probably missed it when blocking them due to that, but may want to delete it. Cheers - Kingpin (talk) 08:45, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

n/m, has since been deleted - Kingpin (talk) 08:52, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

No prob. Nja 09:28, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

John Monash Science School

Thank you for closing the AfD nomination of Cory High School. Could you please also look at John Monash Science School and Nossal High School which were nominated for deletion at the same time?--Design (talk) 13:16, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

Karmaisking sock active

You recently banned User:"Swine"Flu=StolenFarmland, a sock puppet of banned user User:Karmaisking. Unfortunately he's still active on the pages Austrian School and Austrian business cycle theory. Would you mind semi-protecting those two pages? Thanks, LK (talk) 13:44, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

Hello,

Why is my edit to the data migration page was reversed?

Thanks, wikidwb —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wikidwb (talk • contribs) 15:38, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

Details were posted to your talk page when I did it. Please consider your talk page. Nja 16:01, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

Understood. Thank you, Nja. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.32.151.11 (talk) 17:06, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

Note

Can you respond to this when you have a moment? Thanks, Nathan 22:07, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

• I've placed the request on hold pending your comment. Thanks, --auburnpilot talk 02:03, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Help please

User talk:76.170.235.115 won't leave me alone, keeps vandalising my talk page even after you blocked him for 24 hours for disruption.. he went right back at it. RF23 (talk) 19:32, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

User talk:Office of Hawaiian Affairs

Thanks for taking care of this. When I loaded the diff from your edit, I must have only loaded the cache as the block log didn't show up. All I saw was the removal of the category. I reverted, and then the new page loaded, and I saw my mistake. Thanks again and sorry for the confusion. Viriditas (talk) 11:57, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Meraloma Club (2nd nomination)

Apparently, the creator of this article doesn't know who to question about it's deletion so he's asking me about it because I relisted it. Can you jump in? Also can you check out Meraloma club to see if it's the same article with a different spelling? --Ron Ritzman (talk) 23:28, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Seems the page has been deleted. Also I blocked the user for using the account for promotion. Nja 06:38, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

I did consider WP:UAA but noticed that he's been around for a while and has some edits unrelated to the promotion of his company. It's good that the block template you used gives him a chance to change usernames. --Ron Ritzman (talk) 12:38, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

User talk:206.165.150.70

206.165.150.70 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Continued the disruption at the same article, after your final warning... Cirt (talk) 22:56, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. Cirt (talk) 06:46, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

Unblocked

Thanks for taking care of the business with the autoblock. I have meanwhile spoken to the system administrators in charge of communications in our University (huji.ac.il) and they say that, unfortunately, they cannot trace or identify the offending users. As you probably know, the two huji.ac.il proxy servers (proxy6-m.huji.ac.il and proxy7-m.huji.ac.il) carry a large volume of Misplaced Pages activity from huji faculty and students, including contributions by registered users (e.g., my case), and blocking either of these servers may cause considerable aggravation. Please let me know if I can do anything to help with preventive measures at the huji.ac.il level. Regards, --Zlerman (talk) 07:57, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

amir jabir

Hi Nja247 I have looked over the notes on writing your first article, yet i still can't understand why my article below keeps getting deleted! I don't see the difference between this and others I've seen on wikipedia on other individuals. Your advice would be highly appreciated. Regards Amir

Born in Britain, Amir Jabir Britain's youngest vehicle dealer, is an enthusiastic, young professional businessman who thrives in managerial positions, taking business very seriously. Mr Jabir started his successful career at the impressive age of just 15years old. Amir left school as a highly motivated individual to pursue his aspirations in having his own business selling the finest, rarest and most iconic of prestige motorcars, such as Ferrari, and Mercedes-Benz Slr Mclarens. He has dedicated years to building his business "Mayfair Prestige", which has since developed nto the most respected and knowledgeable luxury vehicle dealers in Britain. Mr Jabir's greatest passion being thoroughbred motorcars since childhood means he is living his dream spending his time collecting and supplying them to fellow enthusiasts. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Amir jabir (talk • contribs) 13:27, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

Oh my goodness

Oh my goodness at the direction arbcom is taking. Have you seen it? I am thinking of withdrawing from arbcom and disassociating myself from it, just wanna walk away from it all in disgust. Not so much for me but am angry for other editors who seem to be being castigated severely for trivial issues. They don't seem to want to address the main problems. What is your take?--Literaturegeek | T@1k? 06:42, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

Just accept the warning about edit warring and move on. Cheers. Nja 07:11, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

Ok, maybe best. On another note, I filed a resolution under my name on that page. I honestly think that it can resolve the dispute which really is all we want is for disruption to end.--Literaturegeek | T@1k? 07:31, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

MBP

I disagree with the need for a subsection for the 13" MBP as the introduction of the 13" MBP was joined with other changes that were in that subsection that don't necessarily belong there since the subsection is for the 13" MBP, not the WWDC announcements. Unfortunately, information directly pertaining to the 13" only can be satisfied with a one-liner, completely rendering a subsection to be superfluous. Butterfly0fdoom (talk) 13:08, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

User:Tyw7/signature (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) and User:Tyw7/Contributions (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Semi move protect Moving these templates will ruin my signature. I want to prevent anybody but me moving the templates. --Tyw7  (Talk • Contributions) 12:31, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

I think the user may be requesting that you semi protect both User:Tyw7/signature (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) and User:Tyw7/signature (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) from being moved. Because if they are moved it will ruin the user's signature. However, I think this is unnecessary as it will wont actually effect the signature because it is substed, and the way which you have done it (with links) means that if you revert the move back again it wont even effect the signature(s) added while the page was in the wrong place. To sum up: No need for protect as the pages don't really effect your signature - Kingpin (talk) 12:39, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

How do you revert the move? And how to make the notice above: Please leave me a comment... --Tyw7  (Talk • Contributions)

Go to this move log. You'll see the ones which you are able to revert have a (revert) link, I believe you simple click that, although I've never actually done it (you could test it out in your userspace... Just DON'T move the sandbox ;D). Sorry about hijacking your page Nja ;) - Kingpin (talk) 13:52, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

blocking of users with "inappropriate" usernames

Hi Nja247,

As the blocking admin (), would you please comment at Misplaced Pages:Miscellany for deletion/User:Xgsdev.

Would you also please comment on the lack of linking to relevent policy in the block log, and the lack for coverage of the blocking of inappropriate usernames to be found at the page Misplaced Pages:Blocking policy. --SmokeyJoe (talk) 00:37, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

I've commented there on the merits of deletion. As for the block, note that there is no requisite for debate before blocking a user. Further their talk page is clear on the reasoning for their block, thus I am unsure of your confusion on the matter? What's appropriate or not sometimes comes down to the discretion of the admin, and in this case the user was advertising and/or promoting an entity or product, and their username, on the face of it implies an affiliation. Thus the name was blocked due to Misplaced Pages's guide on conflict of interests and also username policy against creating and/or editing articles that they have a connection with. The several warnings on their talk page by external link bots worked against their favour when assuming good faith. I respect your view, but the user themself should make the argument as the procedure and instructions for requesting an unblock/block review is on their talk page. Any admin considering an unblock via the review process would want to hear from them, but notably since the block over 3 months ago they've said nothing. Overall, it's up to them to initiate the request for unblock / block review process. I would have no qualm with editing the block if it's established satisfactorily that there's in fact no connection and that no policy is being breached. Nja 10:47, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the reply. I remain troubled by the bitiness, and weakness of AGF, of username blocks. I am bothered by the different standards at play with username blocks and other blocks governed by WP:BLOCK, and why there is a difference. The non-return of the user is definitely not an indicator of success in my books. I understand the concern with spamming. In large part, you are saying the person was blocked because of spamming, not because of the username, and so there may be a logical inconsistency going on here. Has this person learned that he can better spam by switching to a less obvious username? I have been thinking on this general issue for over a year now, and am still not sure what I would suggest be done differently. --SmokeyJoe (talk) 13:32, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

Indeed, looking at what links to what, I'm lead to André LaMothe, and accounts that don't obviously break any policy, in a blockable way. I think, in this case, and others I've seen, the username block practice is ineffective, even counter-productive. It teaches the person how to avoid being caught. --SmokeyJoe (talk) 13:44, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

I do understand your concerns, though I can't and won't comment on the overall system and its potentional pitfalls. All I can comment on is my action, and in this case I did what I felt to be the right action based on the information I had available to me at the time. I don't want you to think I'm ignoring what you're saying, but all I can do is go by what's written and use my best judgement. And for the record spamming wasn't the main reason of the block, even though the spam bot had warned that user several times, but the implied affiliation and conflict of interest of the username was my main reasoning, as evidenced in the block template used. Cheers, Nja 15:38, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for your helpful answers. To be clear, I do not criticize your actions or judgment. In looking into the way wikipedians do some things generally, I remain concerned/confused about username blocks. --SmokeyJoe (talk) 11:06, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

It's fine and I don't mind. Any admin who doesn't take reasonable criticism well should retire in my opinion. And for the record I share your concerns, as sometimes WP:UAA seems to be a block shop for some. Just the other day I tried to AGF on a few names as they hadn't actually edited in the main encyclopaedia (ie only their userpages), but another admin went away and blocked anyhow. So yes, it's not perfect at all and it's something worth considering. Nja 12:06, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

help?

i am new to this, and I am really trying to learn. I wanted to re-edit the tempelate for the Palestine project to make it more efficient. Do you have any recommendations? could you guide me in the right direction, of resources at least? hope to hear from you soon. --Zakouma (talk) 08:52, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

FACT - Band

Please re-up FACT band. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.152.218.144 (talk) 15:08, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

Don't understand why you modified The Philippe Juvin Page. All contributions are true and can be found in the french press. Are you a Pj's spindoctor Regards Emilien renouf —Preceding unsigned comment added by Emilien renouf (talk • contribs) 21:30, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

Awarding a PSI

• I hereby award you the PSI ! Awarded to helpful users as a blessing for good mental health. Thank you for your perspicacity and help in taking the time to get involved at AN today. - Simon Dodd { U·T·C·WP:LAW } 20:22, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

as soon as he comes back he will just add his website again--Thearmed1 (talk) 10:58, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

We'll deal with that when it happens. Please do your best to let this go for now. Thanks. Nja 11:51, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Village pump (proposals)#add edit-semi as a feature to "Uploader"?

Hey nja. I had trouble parsing your comment so I'm not quite sure whether you meant to say whether semi was unneeded or needed (else the uploader flag is useless). It seems more useful to me, to have edit-semi as an added feature, and to ensure this doesn't get confused with simply adding ability for admins to grant the flag as-is, I made a separate subsection. You may wish to ce and/or move your comments to clarify. best, –xeno 15:01, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

Dieudonné M'bala M'bala

Hi, i think you have been a little OTT in fully protecting that page. My arguments are here. Please notice that i am the main author of the article, as you can see from the article's history, which means that it can be safely assumed that i know what i am talking about. Thank you, --RCS (talk) 16:01, 5 July 2009 (UTC)