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IPA fot Zeev Suraski
Could someone provide the IPA for Zeev Suraski, the current article is a bit ridiculous. Thanks, JACOPLANE • 2008-06-27 10:14
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Thanks. — Headbomb {κοντριβς – WP Physics} 09:18, 15 March, 2009 (UTC)
Question about Jewish education at the beginning of the Christian era
This question is actually about Saint Peter, but it relates to what I think is probably something you all know better than I or a lot of other Christian editors would know. The biblical texts about the subject make it clear that he did not receive any sort of "rabbinical education", whatever that means. By the educational standards of Judaism at the time, what if anything can we conclude about whatever education he might have received, or is there no standard "baseline" by which to make such determinations for that era? John Carter (talk) 19:40, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
- Traditional sources seem to indicate that young children were educated by the local rabbi ("tinnokot shel beith rabban"), and that young adults would study in the local rabbinical court. It is clear that during the months of Adar and Ellul larger numbers of adults would increase their time for religious study, given that the subsequent months of Nissan and Tishri were traditionally busy with agricultural activity and the pilgrimage festivals. JFW | T@lk 22:43, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
- Useful information. Would it be reasonable to assume that such religious education constituted the majority of the education such an individual would be likely to receive, or were what today might be called "secular" schools to any degree prevalent at the time? John Carter (talk) 22:46, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
- There is little evidence that there was formal education in the "secular" subjects at the time, probably because there's a fair bit of general knowledge embedded in the Talmud and other classical sources. JFW | T@lk 23:36, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
- That's what the kind of answer I was looking for. So, basically, lack of rabbinical education would be likely to indicate lack of any sort of formal education, with the possible exception of specifically work-related activities. John Carter (talk) 23:38, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
- Yes. JFW | T@lk 00:17, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
I'm no expert here, but it seems to me that in Judea at the time period of early Christianity there were probably Hellenistic style schools (whatever that might entail) in existence. --Eliyak T·C 04:56, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
I do not know why Misplaced Pages needs two articles on Paul, but, as of a few days ago, well, we now have two articles. Since the new one is half about Judaism I figure it would be of interest to you guys. I myself have NPOV and NOR concerns. Slrubenstein | Talk 14:54, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
- I just did a quick readthrough. It looks like the new article isn't about Paul, but about Paul's relationship with Judaism. It seems that the article is written from the perspective of Christian information (i.e. New Testament and Christian scholarship). I'm aware of a Jewish perspective that I didn't see in the article (that Paul was on some kind of secret mission to separate Christianity from Judaism). Although I don't give much credence to the secret mission idea, it certainly would fit in that article and not in the standalone article on Paul. We have separate articles on Christianity, Judaism, and Christianity and Judaism without causing any problems. I don't see how this article would be a problem. It merely needs to be rounded out by adding different POVs in order to flesh out NPOV. Remember, NPOV is obtained by adding and balancing POVs with weight given to the predominant views. NOR is obtained by adding reliable and verifiable sourcing, and smoothing out unsourced information. Although I don't have the time to give to this article, I'd recommend against people wasting time by trying to delete information that merely needs to be fleshed out and balanced. Have a good holiday, everyone.SkyWriter (Tim) (talk) 15:18, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
- There is a clear history of multiple articles dealing with specific aspects of single individuals, particularly if there is a lot of information written about those specific individuals. Paul is one individual about whom a lot is written. I can reasonably see there being such a separate article, although I would like to see it developed, probably to include the "secret mission" idea talked about above and any other notable aspects of the subject of Paul's relationship to Judaism. John Carter (talk) 15:26, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
- I am kind of surprised, though, that it doesn't take into account the Jewish scholarship on Paul e.g. Boyarin's book A Radical Jew; there are others I do not know about. The article seems to do a real disservice to Judaism (and to history). Slrubenstein | Talk 20:25, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
- That's an opportunity for you!SkyWriter (Tim) (talk) 20:34, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
Wives of Cain & Able
This page just went up claiming a source from Seder HaDoros. I don't own the book so could someone check the source. If not it will be deleted.Joe407 (talk) 14:57, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
- I can't read Hebrew, so can't read that source, but Codex Judaica says effectively the same thing here. John Carter (talk) 16:23, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
Moved this huge text from the main matrilineality article that was being absorbed by the section on Judaism, to its own space. It certainly could use a look from knowledgeable editors. Kaisershatner (talk) 16:03, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
RFD
A leading, American modern orthodox rabbi, at the Riverdale Jewish Center - http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Jonathan_RosenblattHistoricist (talk) 16:57, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
- The appropriate place to list such XfD discussions is Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Judaism. I just added this. — ] (talk · contribs) 17:10, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
GA Reassessment of Ishmael
I have done the GA Reassessment of Ishmael as part of the GA Sweeps project. I have found a few items that concern me about the article. My review can be found here. I have held the article for a week and I am notifying all the interested projects in the hope that work can be done to keep it at GA. Please contact me at my talk page if you have any questions. H1nkles (talk) 16:17, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
Shia LaBeouf
Shia LaBeouf has been nominated for a good article reassessment. Please leave your comments and help us to return the article to good article quality. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status will be removed from the article. Reviewers' concerns are here. Nikki♥311 19:20, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
Deletion of Jewish Categories
FYI, there is an attempt to delete the categories "Jewish Chess Players," Jewish Conductors, and other Jewish categories at and near the following url: http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2009_June_11#Category:Jewish_chess_players
Feel free to weigh in with whatever your view is.--Epeefleche (talk) 06:57, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
Article requested
I'd like to request on article about "halachic times". You know, shkiah and the like. Because of the many less notable opinions on some of them, I think such an article should restrict itself to the most used and notable ones. I am pretty knowledgable in the field myself, but would have to do some work to properly source such an article. Plus I am not familiar with the way to create mathematical notations and diagrams, which are very much a necessity in such an article. Debresser (talk) 04:09, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
- I would call the article Time in halacha to give it as broad a basis as possible. It should start from the basics, e.g. indicating right from the start that halachic hours are determined by the times of sunrise and sunset. There are some fairly good books that could be used as secondary sources, but I would really prefer for the primary sources to be mentioned too.
- Help:Displaying a formula has basic instructions for maths. JFW | T@lk 13:06, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
Islam has an outline in the OOK, but Judaism does not
See Outline of Islam.
For instructions, see Misplaced Pages:Outlines.
Also see WP:WPOOK.
Thank you.
Good luck.
Have fun.
The Transhumanist 23:58, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
Reconstructionist Judaism
An IP editor keeps inserting information about Messianic Judaism into Reconstructionist Judaism. Earlier today, it was also added to Jewish religious movements and Eruv. Could other editors help me keep an eye out. Thank you. — ] (talk · contribs) 22:05, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
The Divine Name in Articles
Hello,
I am wondering why people insist on writing the literal name of G-d (i.e., the four-lettered one starting with Yud). As an Orthodox Jew, this upsets me. They are wonderful articles and is writing the Name of G-d really necessary? I doubt anyone outside of Judaism would know that the Name means the Name of G-d.
Dovid
75.186.59.82 (talk) 15:46, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
- Dovid, Can you provide examples? shirulashem (talk) 15:52, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
Article on an Antisemitic publication is being whitewashed
Shalom. In the last few days, the WP article about an viciously antisemitic publication, Dalit Voice, (see this version), is being whitewashed by a Pakistani Nationalist editor with antisemitic proclivities. The banned and notorious sockmaster Nangparbat the evader, had been using his socks to attack the article, removing references by preeminent scholars such as Leon Poliakov to attest to it's antisemitism.
This Islamist whitewasher is notorious for using dynamic ips to attack articles even after he has been blocked, and has numerous leftist (and also antisemitic) Indian and Pakistani admins who support these actions, such as User:Nishkid64 (who typically intervenes and protects the articles at Nangparbat's versions). For more details, please contact User:Thegreyanomaly. Please investigate into this very serious matter.Indifference now (talk) 23:47, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
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