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I removed the link to the Nouvelle Droite. Edward Goldsmith is not affiliated with the Nouvelle Droite. If I am not mistaken, he appeared once or twice at a Nouvelle Droite function with Alain de Benoist, but he has also appeared at many other kinds of functions, and therefore this does not indicate he belongs to the Nouvelle Droite.

This is, by the way, not meant as an attack on the Nouvelle Droite. 128.164.61.53 (talk) 15:53, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

Here is a comprehensive account of Goldsmith's connection to the Nouvelle Droite.

http://www.communalism.org/Archive/03/dspe.html

--Eric144 (talk) 10:28, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

This is an inflammatory and subjective way of characterising the New Right: "the intellectual elite of the neo-Nazi movement"

I propose that it be removed. I also propose that, if Goldsmith's association with the New Right be publicised here, an effort be undertaken to document all his associations, including with Trotskyists. Someone appears to be trying to paint Goldsmith as a crypto-fascist, which is not what wikipedia is for. 128.164.61.48 (talk) 22:09, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

My interest is not in left/right issues per se but in the close relationship between deep green, anti technology ideology espoused by Goldsmith and Nazism. Crypto Nazi rather than crypto fascist.

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/sealed/gw/greennazis.htm

--Eric144 (talk) 10:36, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

That's an interesting site, Eric. However, the positions that 1) the New Right is essentially Nazi, and that 2) Deep Ecologists in general, and Edward Goldsmith in particular, is a crypto-Nazi, are positions that have to be argued for, rather than presented as objectively correct in encyclopedic format. It is arguable, but by no means incontestable, that Goldsmith is a crypto-Nazi. For example, his rebuttal: http://www.edwardgoldsmith.org/page3.html

Therefore I suggest you remove the subjective language (if indeed it was you who inserted it), and channel your efforts towards demonstrating Goldsmith's Nazistic positions into something more clearly authored by you and meant to indicate your viewpoint. I sincerely wish you the best. 128.164.61.142 (talk) 17:26, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

Thank you for your mature contribution.

I changed 'neo nazi' to 'extreme right' although .....

I don't think i's exaggerating to describe the Nouvelle Droite as being neo nazi considering its affiliations and powerful influence on openly neo nazi groups across Europe. The esoteric neo paganism is pure nazism. One has to understand that nazis have had a 'reasonably' bad press for 70 years so that word tends to be avoided.

Goldsmith's denial is unconvincing but basically irrelevant as the essence of his deep green ideology is is very similar to Nazi environmental philosophy.

I am interested in him at the moment because his nephew is a prominent UK semi aristocratic environmentalist, one of a number given a platform in the Guardian newspaper. They seem to have a natural affinity to nature/breeding/ eugenics and many supported Germany before and even during WWII.

--Eric144 (talk) 19:41, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

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