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Bills Horse troughs
I found this trough on my travels today and a web search turned up some interesting fragments on an interesting story about a couple called Annis and George Bills who left money to fund over 500 of these troughs all over Australia. I can't help but feel it would be an interesting topic for an article. Does anyone have any more information about these troughs and the story behind them? Cheers, Mattinbgn\ 11:10, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
- There's some information at this link (page 162 of the document, page 166 of the pdf) Melburnian (talk) 11:22, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
- Seems these troughs weren't just located throughout Australia, but also "Ireland, England... and possibly even Switzerland and Japan" if this newspaper article from a Sydney newspaper is anything to go by. Would make a great article. -- Longhair\ 12:16, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
- Just as a check the LISWA/henrietta search for horse trough, and horse troughs actually come up with a few photos and just one that is on the national heritage register - havent checked other states on that - well worth a start if anyone is going to - troughs in the broader sense in the pastoral regions of western australia are an important phenomenon - not sure the sources of info though. SatuSuro 14:51, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
- Seems these troughs weren't just located throughout Australia, but also "Ireland, England... and possibly even Switzerland and Japan" if this newspaper article from a Sydney newspaper is anything to go by. Would make a great article. -- Longhair\ 12:16, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
- Would be a lovely article. This section brought back memories as I used to live next door to a Bills' trough in Wentworth! This website has the locations of several hundred troughs. •Florrie•leave a note• 06:21, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
- I actually photographed that trough in Wentworth without even noticing it :) -- Longhair\ 03:27, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
- I saw that photo yesterday when I was browsing some Darling articles. That was me in the Gaol Residence, many years ago. Neat place to live and exceptionally secure! •Florrie•leave a note• 12:57, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
- I actually photographed that trough in Wentworth without even noticing it :) -- Longhair\ 03:27, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
- I have walked past some (at least 3) of these on a regular basis and never noticed. I must take my camera with me next time! -- Mattinbgn\ 06:33, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
- I often stop for a stretch to break a long drive in Woodend where your photograph was taken Mattinbgn, and have never bothered to wonder why the plague was in place on the trough on the roadside. There's an interesting bit of Australian history waiting to be written up here. -- Longhair\ 08:43, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
- I presume you mean plaque. :) Orderinchaos 02:40, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
- I often stop for a stretch to break a long drive in Woodend where your photograph was taken Mattinbgn, and have never bothered to wonder why the plague was in place on the trough on the roadside. There's an interesting bit of Australian history waiting to be written up here. -- Longhair\ 08:43, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
- Either way works. The mozzies are bad this time of year :) -- Longhair\ 03:33, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
- I've kicked the ball and created an article Watering Trough as that seems to be the most common term for a water thingo. Within the article is a link to Bills Horse Trough which seems to be the best descriptor for an article name. I've contacted the person who appears to have contributed to all the research Mr.GEMMILL in Stanhope to collaborate. Time will tell. Phenss (talk) 11:49, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
Yesterday during my long photography walk I came across an disused horse trough in Forsyth Street in Wagga Wagga (at the front of Collins Park) and I've got no idea on it's history but rather interesting but doubt it may link to the Bill troughs though. Image:Horse trough in ForsythSt Wagga.jpg (Servers are having issues with making thumbnails ATM). Having a look Wagga Wagga seems to have a Bill's horse trough but it's located at the Museum of the Riverina so I'll try and see if it's on display later in the week. Bidgee (talk) 10:18, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
- Just some more on the Horse trough in Forsyth Street. Looking at the Wagga Wagga City Councils historic database (Somewhat limited in public information however) it states this "Horse trough: Forsyth St (Last working horse, Milk Run, 1964)". If anyone has any info it would be a great help as I would add it to the image's description. Bidgee (talk) 00:18, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
- Well found it and got a photo of it. Image:Bills Horse trough.jpg. Bidgee (talk) 07:55, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
No word from an email to a Gemmill from Stanhope. Anyone close to Stanhope? HE is listed in the white pages. I'mm too far. thanks Phenss (talk) 01:17, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
Perth Meetup
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- A Perth Meetup has been organised for the 29th November at the Fremantle Lunatic Asylum. Gnangarra 01:15, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
- An appropriate place to hold a Misplaced Pages meeting? :-) JRG (talk) 04:34, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
WikiProject Australian historic places
This WikiProject has just been started today, based on Rebecca's earlier suggestion on this noticeboard and the feedback provided. It would be great to get some help from people familiar with starting up WikiProjects and those interested in the topic - feel free to drop by! Thanks, Somno (talk) 04:03, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
- I've little experience with categories so hopefully someone can help - I'd like to set up a structure with the main category something like "Historic places in Australia" - first of all, is that correct, or should it be "of Australia"? Then under that, I was thinking "Commonwealth National Heritage List sites in Australia" / "National Trust sites in Australia", then separated into states. Does this seem correct? Thanks, Somno (talk) 23:55, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
Will take this to the project talk page for my reply SatuSuro 10:24, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
Images of National Party leaders
I thought the National Party released the images of their leaders to a free license compatible with Misplaced Pages? Why was Damiens.rf allowed to delete them? Is there a way to fix this? JRG (talk) 04:33, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
- For further context, it looks like JRG is talking about a series of discussions on IFD starting here. From my admittedly uninformed position, they certainly look like poor closes (all seem to be unanimous or near-unanimous keep discussions). Of a bit of further concern is the way that User:Damiens.rf nominated Image:John McEwen.jpg twice, once in August, and again in October. It's not against the rules, but it certainly is irregular. In addition, the nominator seems to have quite the history of trolling and edit-warring. Lankiveil 06:56, 27 October 2008 (UTC).
- Although, JRG, it would help if you could elaborate upon "the National Party released the images of their leaders to a free license compatible with Misplaced Pages?" When did this happen, what licence, is there documentary evidence, etc? Lankiveil 06:57, 27 October 2008 (UTC).
- I note that explicit non-commercial permission was given for the use of photos on wikipedia from the Australian Parliamentary Handbook, that are held under Crown copyright by the Commonwealth of Australia. The responsible Commonwealth agency, AUSPIC, gave written permission on 2 August 2005 for non-commercial use of the photos on Misplaced Pages. Please see the debate on the deletion of the image of Ian Sinclair of the National Party. While I would prefer 'unrestricted' licenced photos used where possible, for most Australian politicians this just is not achievable at this moment. I think use of these photos is justified, even under current Misplaced Pages licencing policies, unless alternative photos become available. I think the debate was closed too soon with not enough participation from Australian Wikipedians.--Takver (talk) 09:52, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
- Lankiveil - I thought I remembered reading here that someone had written to the National Party seeking images of their leaders and they had released a photo of Mark Vaile and the other former leaders on the OTRS system. It was different to what Takver refers to above. I wasn't familiar with what had happened but I was surprised that they all got deleted if that was the case. And I am not happy with the way that the John McEwen image was nominated again after there was a consensus towards keeping it. JRG (talk) 00:12, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
- Much as I wanted it to be true myself, that was either a hoax or at least unsubstantiated, as it later turned out. Timeshift would remember more details as he was dealing with that one. Orderinchaos 03:14, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
- Is there anything we can do to get photos of these people? It's a shame the Deputy Leaders of our country at certain times don't have images. JRG (talk) 06:50, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
- Update on Damiens.rf - he has been blocked for a week for edit-warring. Please keep a look out for him if he persists in disruptive editing after his block expires. JRG (talk) 06:52, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
ACOTF changed from Griffith to assessment
Hi Everyone. I think we've all been busy enjoying the springtime. Anyway, I got round to rolling the Australian collaboration again. Griffith met with limited editing attention. The longest standing most-supported suggestion to replace it has been a concerted effort to catch up on article assessment of Australian articles. As such, the category Unassessed Australia articles has been nominated for the next fortnight. I don't believe I will be able to generate meaningful statistics for this (maybe someone else can - please followup with a complete count if you can), but as of right now, there are 248 articles in the main category and more in the subcategories. Please help to assess these articles in support of the project, and nominate other tasks for the ACOTF as well. Thanks for your help. --Scott Davis 06:09, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
- I don't want to appear negative, but can someone explain the benefit of this tagging? I mean, how does it improve the quality of Misplaced Pages in any way? WWGB (talk) 06:33, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
| “ | While much of the work is done in conjunction with the WP:1.0 program, the article ratings are also used within the project itself to aid in recognising excellent contributions and identifying topics in need of further work. | ” |
| — Wikiproject Australia Assessment Department, Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Australia/Assessment | ||
--Scott Davis 12:29, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
- I guess at the moment a lot of us are still doing more of the generation of new artices or vandalism patrols, rather than improvement of existing articles. Tagging helps the targeting of which articles should be improved. What be very useful would be a sort of cross-category boolean comparison - ie seeing all of the top importance but stub quality articles in a project. AWB can do it with its list comparison tool, but it would be good to have something inbuilt to the wikipedia website.The-Pope (talk) 13:55, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
- I wonder if anyone has ever actually used WP:AUS tagging to "aid in recognising excellent contributions and identifying topics in need of further work" or "help the targeting of which articles should be improved." If I feel like working on a WP:AUS stub, tagging makes it easy for me to narrow my field of candidates down to 38,907 articles... and as far as I can tell, that is all it does. Seriously, is there any evidence (as opposed to WP 1.0 shibboleths) that people are actually using WP:AUS tagging for anything? Hesperian 22:50, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
- I just use it as an AWB search term. It's basically a case of knowing which basket to dump the articles in, so that if they're not properly categorised we can find them. Orderinchaos 23:35, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
- Misplaced Pages:Version_1.0_Editorial_Team/Australia_articles_by_quality is an ersatz version of what you want, although finding the right page can take a while (60 is the one you're looking for). Hesperian: the lists for the various subprojects are more tractable. The lack of boolean categories on wikipedia is partly why I spend some time at Freebase (database). TRS-80 (talk) 10:40, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
- I wonder if anyone has ever actually used WP:AUS tagging to "aid in recognising excellent contributions and identifying topics in need of further work" or "help the targeting of which articles should be improved." If I feel like working on a WP:AUS stub, tagging makes it easy for me to narrow my field of candidates down to 38,907 articles... and as far as I can tell, that is all it does. Seriously, is there any evidence (as opposed to WP 1.0 shibboleths) that people are actually using WP:AUS tagging for anything? Hesperian 22:50, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
- I guess at the moment a lot of us are still doing more of the generation of new artices or vandalism patrols, rather than improvement of existing articles. Tagging helps the targeting of which articles should be improved. What be very useful would be a sort of cross-category boolean comparison - ie seeing all of the top importance but stub quality articles in a project. AWB can do it with its list comparison tool, but it would be good to have something inbuilt to the wikipedia website.The-Pope (talk) 13:55, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
There some discussion here with it petering out unable to find a use beyond WP:1.0 program. What I suggest is that the template has a default setting of low importance and start class where none is specified. Gnangarra 12:04, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
National Library now linking to Misplaced Pages for more info on authors
Thought this news might be of interest to some people. Rebecca (talk) 12:20, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
How unfortunate considering the apparent poor quality of most of our articles about Australian authors SatuSuro 03:27, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
- Agree with SatuSuro - definitely room for improvement for most of them :-( --Matilda 03:38, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
- It is certainly interesting from my perspective - they're pulling out content in real time, but only grabbing the lead, and they're loosing footnote formatting, turning it into fairly ugly in-line refs. I hope they plan to refine their code a bit. :) - Bilby (talk) 03:47, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
- To follow up on Bilby's point - the NLA has when you click through which links back to Donald Knuth.
Note the NLA does of course hold books by other than Austrlaian authors but I guess as the NL of Aus we would like the Aus articles to be of good quality if they are going to link there. --Matilda 03:55, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
- To follow up on Bilby's point - the NLA has when you click through which links back to Donald Knuth.
Category notification #5
Category:Victoria (Australia) cricketers has been nominated for renaming (back) to Category:Victoria cricketers. Hesperian 22:38, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
- What about reversing the renaming of Category:Victoria (Australia) state politicians: where are these Canadian state politicians? I have been to Victoria, British Columbia and I know how insignificant it really is.--Grahame (talk) 00:47, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
- You are correct of course, but it would just be wasting valuable pixels trying to get that category renamed. Common sense mustn't be allowed to interfere with the grand plan regardless of how ludicrous and unwieldy the result. Clarity and simplicity are all to be sacrificed against the goal of removing non-existent ambiguity and ensuring mindless uniformity. -- Mattinbgn\ 00:57, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
- There is a very good argument that mindless uniformity - specially in categories is specifically going against what wikipedia should be aiming for as a major project - the assumption for example that the sum total of canadian, british, american, indian, australian and south african usages of anything are mutually consistent across all boundaries is in cultural difference denial (remember the bumper sticker Denial is not a river in Egypt ? ).
However those who appear to inhabit cfd domains appear to be universalists/global application of category names and practices - and seem to view the Australian project challenges with some disdain - whatever little island they inhabit, it is possible they think they can see the whole world from their little window. A pity for wikipedia that. SatuSuro 04:51, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
CT:Tasmania
CT:Tasmania has been listed for discussion (and possible deletion as a cross-namespace redirect) at WP:RfD. I would recommend that anybody interested one way, the other, or neutral to comment about the redirect before RfD close. Thank you for your input. 147.70.242.40, temporarily at 147.70.242.41 (talk) 19:26, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
- Note that it currently points to Category talk:Tasmania Portal. Orderinchaos 20:42, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
Input wanted on Francis Macnab
A discussion has started at Talk:Francis Macnab about how to cover his announcement of a new faith, see here. The sections dealing with it are rather long, and further we have had a request from the Executive of his church that we remove some sourced information about the public response of another church. Your input is appreciated. Blarneytherinosaur 23:21, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
Silent Policeman
I have always called these things "Silent Policemen" and, by not cutting corners, have been lucky enough to avoid them ripping out the underside of my car. Like reverse angle parking, they seem to be a NSW thing. Is there a formal name for them that anyone knows? Cheers, Mattinbgn\ 07:33, 30 October 2008 (UTC)
- The NSW RTA refers to them as "traffic domes" (see page 21 of ). WWGB (talk) 07:47, 30 October 2008 (UTC)
- That was quick! Thank you -- Mattinbgn\ 08:03, 30 October 2008 (UTC)
- I've always called them "Silent Cops" which, going by this photo, seems right. I always assumed that "Silent Policemen" was the formal name. When I first joined the RAAF in 1978, there were some of them in Laverton, Victoria, where I did my technician training. The Victorians called them "sleeping policemen". I think I prefer any of those to "traffic dome". They'd be better off calling them Chuzwozzas. There is some interesting reading on the issue here. --AussieLegend (talk) 08:06, 30 October 2008 (UTC)
- I always knew them as "Sleeping Policemen", but "traffic dome" is indeed the formal (and far less interesting) name. Euryalus (talk) 08:59, 30 October 2008 (UTC)
- I knew them as "Silent Cops", but when we lived in West Africa in the 1960s they were called "Sleeping Policemen", which we assumed was British.--Grahame (talk) 11:48, 30 October 2008 (UTC)
- Use to see them almost all over the Riverina in the 90s but have became extremely rare in some part. :( Bidgee (talk) 04:42, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
- I knew them as "Silent Cops", but when we lived in West Africa in the 1960s they were called "Sleeping Policemen", which we assumed was British.--Grahame (talk) 11:48, 30 October 2008 (UTC)
- I always knew them as "Sleeping Policemen", but "traffic dome" is indeed the formal (and far less interesting) name. Euryalus (talk) 08:59, 30 October 2008 (UTC)
- I've always called them "Silent Cops" which, going by this photo, seems right. I always assumed that "Silent Policemen" was the formal name. When I first joined the RAAF in 1978, there were some of them in Laverton, Victoria, where I did my technician training. The Victorians called them "sleeping policemen". I think I prefer any of those to "traffic dome". They'd be better off calling them Chuzwozzas. There is some interesting reading on the issue here. --AussieLegend (talk) 08:06, 30 October 2008 (UTC)
- That was quick! Thank you -- Mattinbgn\ 08:03, 30 October 2008 (UTC)
- Is someone going to write an article? Note from various council minutes (findable via Google searches) they are no longer approved traffic control devices - eg Mosman 2005. Here is an article on the subject:
- Davis, Tony (17 June 2002). "Silent cops make a quiet exit". Drive. Fairfax Digital (Sydney Morning Herald). Retrieved 2008-10-31.
- - did you know that they have become redundant (as well as a hazard) because diamond turns which allow approaching cars to turn across an intersection simultaneously were legalised in the 1970s?
- It seems they date from the 1920s per :
and they seem to just pre-date "The first set of automatic vehicle activated traffic lights was installed at the corner of Market and Kent Streets, Sydney by the Department of Road Transport and Tramways on 13 October 1933."In the late 1920s, the Police Department had placed some traffic domes at intersections as an experiment, but ran out of funds to continue their installation. Hence in 1929, the MRB took over the placement of traffic domes. They were used to control traffic, to assist in the "rotary circulation of traffic" and to keep vehicles to the outside of the curve
- "RTA Thematic History: A component of the RTA Heritage and Conservation Register - 2nd Edition" (pdf). New South Wales Roads and Traffic Authority. 2006. pp. page 68 of 128. Retrieved 2008-10-31.
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- "RTA Thematic History: A component of the RTA Heritage and Conservation Register - 2nd Edition" (pdf). New South Wales Roads and Traffic Authority. 2006. pp. page 68 of 128. Retrieved 2008-10-31.
- traffic domes are in NZ too apparently --Matilda 22:13, 30 October 2008 (UTC)
- There is one on the heritage register (placed on there in 2005) for Kempsey (Cnr Rudder and Sullivan Streets, Crescent Head) which dates specifically to 1920 see page 149 of 771 page large pdf
Statement of Significance: The silent cop is the forerunner of the modern day roundabout at the junction of three or four streets. The raised dome indicated that the traffic went around the dome and it took place of a traffic policeman hence the colloquial name; "silent cop" entered the English language. The traffic dome becomes a historic item in its own right.
Historical Notes or Provenance: In the Kempsey Municipal Minutes of 1924; "Letter from Dr. McElhone suggesting placing dummy policemen at the intersection of the streets for the guidance of traffic. Moved by Alderman Land and seconded by Alderman Savage that the matter be referred to works committee." One silent cop at the intersection of Lachlan Street and Nicholson Street has currently been removed.
- They were in the US at least as early as 1914 per . This article also goes on to talk about sleeping policemen which I would call speed bumps and in New Zealand are referred to as judder bars. There is an article on Speed bump. --Matilda 22:29, 30 October 2008 (UTC)
- According to this photo with the late Alan Waddell they were also referred to as "poached eggs". (BTW, it's a pity Alan Waddell's article was deleted). WWGB (talk) 22:46, 30 October 2008 (UTC)
- It has been userfied - User:Jerry/Alan Waddell -- Mattinbgn\ 22:59, 30 October 2008 (UTC)
- According to this photo with the late Alan Waddell they were also referred to as "poached eggs". (BTW, it's a pity Alan Waddell's article was deleted). WWGB (talk) 22:46, 30 October 2008 (UTC)
- There is one on the heritage register (placed on there in 2005) for Kempsey (Cnr Rudder and Sullivan Streets, Crescent Head) which dates specifically to 1920 see page 149 of 771 page large pdf
Aboriginal tracker article?
Does anyone know whether we have an article on blacktrackers (such as Jimmy James (tracker)? Is it under a title that hasn't occurred to me? --Roisterer (talk) 03:42, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
For a start try a more respectful label like Aboriginal tracker go to search and you will find they are mentioned regularly in wikipedia under that more appropriate name and no there is not an article - but use of blacktracker I would suggest you wont find much SatuSuro 04:01, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
- I would agree that Aboriginal tracker (for example) is a more respectful term; I just used the term listed in the Jimmy James article noted above. But yes, I'm surprised there is nothing on Aboriginal trackers, considering the important role they have played in Australian history. --Roisterer (talk) 04:54, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
- In the Territory (NT) they're known as "Aboriginal trackers". Bidgee (talk) 04:57, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
- Also in the WA State library catalogue - there are mainly photos http://henrietta.liswa.wa.gov.au/search~ when you try that search item SatuSuro 07:26, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
- Excellent reference for Queensland on this subject - L.E. Skinner, Police of the Pastoral Frontier. Native Police 1849-59, University of Queensland Press, 1975 ISBN 0702209775. I have a number of sources for Victoria as well.--Takver (talk) 08:15, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
- I got one source "Explorers of Western Australia" that has some limited information but there already on some articles like Tommy Windich and Wylie (person). Theres also List of Indigenous Australian historical figures which covers a broader grouping. Quick check doesnt show any article specific to Aboriginal trackers/guides. Gnangarra 08:36, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
- Oral tradition and popular traditions of up to fifty years ago in western australia had it that a good tracker can see things that simply are impossible for the average city dwelling european ancestry australian to see SatuSuro 08:37, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
- And Jimmy James is the focus of a biography, Lost and found : the life of Jimmy James, black tracker (see http://catalogue.nla.gov.au/Record/2457958) so it's not as if there isn't a lot of material on Trackers available. Methinks I might add it to the ACOTF suggestion list. --Roisterer (talk) 10:49, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
Probably better to add information to the Native Police Corps article. At the moment it is mainly about Victoria, but we could probably have a section for each state about the Native Police Force.--Takver (talk) 12:23, 1 November 2008 (UTC)
- ...but that would be wrong. The use of Aboriginal trackers was more widespread than their use as a specific corps of the police force. Rebecca (talk) 13:25, 1 November 2008 (UTC)
- I'd argue that, the WA police force had "Aboriginal Officers" as a separate group well into the 1990's possibly as late as the turn of the century. Gnangarra 11:55, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
C-class articles opinion needed for WP INDIA
Hi! We at WP:INDIA are debating the introduction of C-class articles for our assessment. Since WP:AUS has been using the C-class ratings for quite a while now, could someone from this project please weigh in on Misplaced Pages talk:Noticeboard for India-related topics#C class articles? We need to know:
- If the implementation of C-class has been effective for this project?
- Does C-class articles involve more red tape?
- Are the lines of distinction between Start and C, and Start and B classes blurred?
- Does C-class complicate the assessment process?
Eagerly awaiting feedback. Thanks, =Nichalp «Talk»= 09:08, 2 November 2008 (UTC) Cross-posting since the assessment talk page is not watched =Nichalp «Talk»= 09:43, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
- Please note that I've posted a slightly different notice to the assessment talk page. Notably, instead of the first bullet point above, we'd like know whether the implementation of C-class been worthwhile overall? If so, how? (Has there been evidence of an increase in the quantity or quality of output by the introduction of this grade?) Thanks, Ncmvocalist (talk) 10:15, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
Category notification #6
Category:Australian political controversies has been proposed for renaming. Hesperian 22:38, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
IndexMundi
Does anyone have an opinion on how reliable this website may be? I would like to use it for elevations and the one I see for Thulimbah, Queensland is around the mark. Cheers, Mattinbgn\ 21:43, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
Category notification #7
Plenty going on in category space at the moment:
- Category:Australian football (soccer) club stubs and Category:Australian football biography stubs have been nominated for renaming;
- Category:Coastal settlements in Australia and Category:Battles of the Iraq War involving Australia were both deleted as empty;
- Category:1995-96 Australian cyclone season, also empty, was blanked so that someone would notice and delete it;
- Category:Nature Conservation Act least concern biota and Category:Nature Conservation Act near threatened biota were blanked for the same reason, but I have restored these because the taxobox auto-categorises into them.
Hesperian 22:34, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
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