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footnote 38
Hi, I am not sure what you want with your footnote 38 at differential geometry of surfaces. the formula in question is the standard relation between the second fundamental form and the Weingarten map (shape operator), see for example page 24 of my book. Katzmik (talk) 13:44, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
- Hello. Some more recent authors define the second fundamental form differently unfortunately and this can be confusing. The older texts are fine and agree (Eisenhart, Struik, etc), but the definition is different in O'Neill for example.
- BTW I very briefly toyed with the idea of adding a picture of a bearded mathematician to this article. I settled on adding Greul's picture of Gromov to his BLP. The nicest pictures I've seen so far are in the lavishly illustrated IHES handbook (a misidentified wikipedian is also in there playing duets with Zagier).
- I'll be off tomorrow to ESI for about 2 weeks. Mathsci (talk) 14:09, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
- What is different in O'Neill? Are you talking about a sign convention? Katzmik (talk) 09:16, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
- Sorry I'm in a Viennese café. I have all these texts at home in France. Why not look in your university library? Cheers, Mathsci (talk) 17:01, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
M. P. Appell
Do you happen to know if the M. P. Appell who invented Appell-Lerch sums is Monsieur Paul Appell, or is this a different guy? R.e.b. (talk) 04:39, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
- According to this collaborator of Don Zagier , they are the same person. (Incidentally U. might like to know that ESI in Vienna comes with a baroque chapel and organ. I tried the 2 last Bach violin sonatas + 4 Purcell pavans - highly recommended - with a Hungarian postdoc. There was no sign of a cat.) Mathsci (talk) 09:21, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
Reversion
I have asked a question about a your recent reversion at Talk:European ethnic groups the reasoning behind which I didn't understand completely. I hope you wont mind helping me to understand it. Happy editing.·Maunus·ƛ· 15:09, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
Hugues des Baux
If you have it to hand, could you recheck the Cambridge Medieval History to confirm that Hugues (a leader of the revolt in Marseille in 1262) was a brother of Barral des Baux? I've tried for some time to pin him down in the des Baux genealogies; I can't seem to find him at the Foundation for Medieval Genealogy, nor this page, I believe taken from Europäische Stammtafeln. Choess (talk) 21:33, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
- The most precise account is on pages 75-76 of "The Sicilian Vespers: A History of the Mediterranean World in the Later Thirteenth Century" by Steven Runciman, Cambridge University Press, 1992 ISBN 0521437741. He writes that Boniface de Castellane led the 1262 revolt, aided by Hugues des Baux, whose brother Baral des Baux remained faithful to Charles d'Anjou. I will add this citation to Marseille. Mathsci (talk) 23:20, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
- The skein is slightly more tangled than that. Unfortunately, that's where I first read about Hugh. Runciman refers to Hugh's revolt on p. 76; he says "But Barral of Baux remained loyal, although his cousin Hugh had joined the revolt". What had really confused me was that on p. 82, Runciman seems to say that Hugh was beheaded in 1264. I found Runciman's cited source, Sternfeld, on Google Books this evening. Here he identifies Hugh of Baux as the son of Bertrand de Baux, for which see also this source. This throws up a discrepancy, because Hugues de Baux, seigneur de Meyrargues et de Puyricard did not die until 1304. Now, my German's rusting out to an alarming degree, but if I read this part of Sternfeld correctly, Charles executed a lot of little fish, but Hugh and the leaders of the 1264 revolt got away. He eventually sold his seigneurie to Charles II in 1291, so it seems there was a reconciliation at some point. I'm going to make the changes to Charles I of Naples; I'll let you change Marseille as you see fit. Choess (talk) 00:20, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
- Oops, you're right, Hugues des Baux was Baral's cousin. Many thanks for your fascinating input. (Puyricard and Meyrargues are very close to where I live.) Mathsci (talk) 00:33, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
Personal attacks
Mathsci, if you wish to delete comments from your talkpage, that is your right. But putting personal attacks in edit summaries is not. That kind of language tends to do little but escalate a dispute. You have been cautioned before about personal attacks, and about the importance of not using editors' names in edit summaries. I recommend that you review WP:NPA, and in the future, please try to use more neutral summaries? That will help with reducing disruption to the project, which will allow you, and others, to get back to our primary task of creating high quality articles. Thanks, --Elonka 23:32, 30 September 2008 (UTC)