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Partial list of stubs/short articles created or rewritten by Adv A students

I know there are a lot here but many are very short stubs. If there are a lot of grammar mistakes, just tag it with a clean up tag. I did not require that they wikify the articles due to time. Final versions for grading purposes are due Tue Feb 5 so any help you can give would be appreciated.

Santa Clara del Cobre, San Felipe del Progreso, Villa de allende, Ixtapan del Oro, Zumpahuacán, San Juan del Río, Nautla, Santo_tomas_de_los_platanos, Tejupilco, Saint Vincent (island), Jilotepec, Tlacotepec, Palizada, Santa Gertrudis (This student wrote about the town in Oaxaca State but it redirects to Misión Santa Gertrudis in Baja California. The student´s stub is under the information about the mission), Álvaro Obregón (municipality), Zentla, Bernal, Querétaro, Temoaya, Acambay, Xpu Há, Chapa de Mota, Pasorapa, Huasca_de_Ocampo, Malinalco, Mexico State, Almoloya de Júarez, Polotitlan, Córdoba, Veracruz, Mexicaltzingo, Lagunillas, Michoacán, Ixcateopan, Benito Júarez, Quintana Roo, Jocotitlan, Ixtlahuaca, Temascaltepec, Teapa, Tabasco, Huandacareo, Zualcapan, México, Capulhuac, Xalatlaco, Boca del Cielo

Thelmadatter (talk) 00:16, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

Sorry to butt in, but do you just need these copyeditied? -- Ļıßζېấשּׂ~ۘ Ώƒ ﻚĢęخ (talk) 00:48, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

I think this is more for grading than copyediting at this point.

WikiProject Templates

I saw your comment about {{ChristianityWikiProject}} and {{WikiProject Australia}}. I have been looking for someone to help me with {{WikiProject Southern California}} and {{WikiProject Philadelphia}}. I tried to have those templates list their articles with the California and Pennsylvania prjects respectively. Maybe we can do that with Saints? The templates are incomplete. I could use help. --evrik  02:52, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

• Check your email. --evrik  19:55, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

RE: Oceans/Oceanography

Hi there! I think such a project was initiated, but it did not get off the ground. I am very much interested in participating but, as with the original project and other commitments, I suppose this is something that just fell to the wayside? Anyhow, perhaps you should redirect your proposed project to the one linked above? Merci! Quizimodo (talk) 04:59, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

Knight Kadosh

John, I'd appreciate your opinion (I'm not looking to start a fight) regarding categorizing the Knight Kadosh article in Category:Anti-Catholicism. Thanks!--Vidkun (talk) 14:58, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

RfA thanks from Happy-melon

I just wanted to say thanks for your support for my RfA, which closed (74/2/0) this morning. Your comment and support was very much appreciated. Happy‑melon 15:44, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

WP:ROBO

Apparently we have duplicate Robotics categories after the recent edits:

• Category:Unassessed-Class Robotics articles
• Category:Unassessed Robotics articles

(Same thing with the List class categories)

Is there a way to move everything over to whichever one we're supposed to be using? Thanks! - Jameson L. Tai 22:05, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

The Military history WikiProject Newsletter : Issue XXIII (January 2008)

The January 2008 issue of the Military history WikiProject newsletter has been published. You may read the newsletter, change the format in which future issues will be delivered to you, or unsubscribe from this notification by following the link. Thank you.
This has been an automated delivery by BrownBot (talk) 01:30, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

WikiProject Misunderstandings

I've explained my concerns. So have others. I have never seen you respond directly to those concerns. I've always assumed good faith with your work (which has been a lot of good work, no one's questioning that), and I have only questioned the appropriateness of this work at this time in this project. This isn't because I feel I "own" the project, and I don't appreciate you throwing around such accusations. I am an active member, though, so when drastic changes suddenly occur without any discussion, and seem to be creating more clutter within the project, I am naturally curious and concerned. I can see the logical reasons for creating these projects (now that you're explaining it), but that fact that you never mentioned these major changes on relevant discussion pages at the start is what led to these misunderstandings (again, I was not the only one with concerns). You're finally starting to discuss this now, which is good. Please remember, not all of us are top WikiProject experts such as yourself, but we are here, and are working just as hard as you to improve this encyclopedia. Your expertize doesn't automatically override other editors' concerns, and delivering near-personal attacks and accusations of policy violations doesn't help to increase understanding, which is always the goal. My (and others') concerns still exist, but at least now I understand where you're coming from - hopefully you can do the same. I assume you're going to continue to move ahead, and though some editors (myself included) are not convinced of the benefit of these sub-projects, I'm resting my objections for the time being and am interested to see how the finished product works out. Once again, it is clear you are putting good time and effort into this, and I can (and do) appreciate that. Otebig (talk) 17:30, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

Article importance tag

(I'm keeping copies on both John Carter's userpage and mine) John Carter and Phoenix-wiki, I'd like to ask you both about the utility of the "article importance" rating that I recently commented-out of the Wikiproject Robotics template. My instinct is that the very last thing I need to hear is "Dan says my article is more important than yours". Did this fill any essential function in any previous Wikiproject? Is there some mistake we're likely to make because we misjudge the importance of Roomba or Robot? - Dan Dank55 (talk) 00:07, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

The importance rankings serve two functions. One, they permit the project to "prioritize" its articles, and perhaps give a bit more attention to the more important and less attention to the less important articles. Also, they are of use to the Misplaced Pages:Version 1.0 Editorial Team, which expects to use importance rankings in the future to help determine which articles are included in future release versions and possibly as candidates for their collaboration. That's all that would be missed by not having them, though. John Carter (talk) 00:11, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

I'd like to support Version 1.0 any way I can, please alert me if we're reaching the point where you guys would like a list of suitable robotics articles, and I'll propose to the Wikiproject Robotics guys that we come up with a list for you. - Dan Dank55 (talk) 04:09, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

John, Jameson's opinion is different than mine, so I'm asking for more input if you want to give it. I know the "importance" tag has been useful in other wikiprojects and could potentially be useful when Version 1.0 needs input. Regarding Version 1.0, it seems reasonable to me to answer that question when we're actually faced with the question. Regarding former wikiprojects, a difference here is that we are currently having success with pulling new people into Misplaced Pages who have expert answers to the questions that need to get answered. This includes students, hobbyists, househusbands, academics, and professionals. For people who we really need not to annoy, but who are relatively new to Misplaced Pages, I think it would be counterproductive to slap a label of "low importance" on their article, no matter how careful we are to explain what it means. - Dan Dank55 (talk) 16:52, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

Regarding "Low" importance ranking and the like, you have a real point. One thing that several projects have done is only assess for Top or High importance, or even just Top importance, leaving all the others blank. That way, a new editor might think that it just hasn't been tagged for importance yet. John Carter (talk) 17:01, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

I have no objection at all to using a separate template to denote high importance, top importance, or suitability for Version 1.0...and btw, I would totally support the idea of Wikiproject Robotics people stepping aside and letting Version 1.0 people make any or all of those determinations...you know your audience, we don't. Top ratings would be for a small minority of robotics articles, better not to rub everyone's face in that by putting it in the main template. Also, most of the new editors are wonderful people who have great wiki-values in general, but I just cringe a little bit when I consider giving them to-do lists, they're not going to be receptive. - Dan Dank55 (talk) 17:28, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

I don't always agree with article importance ratings, but it can be useful to assess some articles as more important than others because we'd like to get the VIP articles up to scratch first. I've yet to see someone say anything like "My article is more important than yours" though. WPP:BIO has just a top importance rating for stuff like George Bush and David Beckham and nothing for other aticles.--Phoenix-wiki 20:09, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

(unindent) FYI: I undid your comment-out on {{WikiProject Robotics}} since articles listed with importance=blah still registered on the bot retrieval process regardless of the visual display of importance on the project tag, so I just undid it until we have a clear set of article guidelines to follow. - Jameson L. Tai 07:34, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

Okay, I don't care how other projects do it, only Wikiproject Robotics, so I guess that would be the right forum...specifically, the page for admin issues, WP:ROBO/AEL. However, I personally think the arguments might be generally valid, and if anyone wants me to argue my points in any other forum, please tell me where to go (haha). I haven't really heard any argument here in support of putting this information at the top of every robotics page, instead of using a separate template on those articles we want to rate highly, which would have the advantage that it would let the Version 1.0 people make Version 1.0 decisions, so I'm not sure what the state of the argument is. - Dan Dank55 (talk) 14:15, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

The argument continues, but since I'm focusing both on robotics and my own role now, I'll stop copying here (you're welcome to do so, of course.) - Dan Dank55 (talk) 15:18, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

Redid this award, and wanted to pass it on

		The Africa Award
		John_Carter is awarded this Africa Award for exemplary work on Africa-related articles. Presented by a member of the WikiProject_Africa, T L Miles (talk) 04:18, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

For all the thankless work on Descendant projects of the AfricaProject. It has made a huge difference. T L Miles (talk) 04:18, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

Africa template

Yes! On behalf of WP:SADR, feel free to include the Western Sahara WikiProject in your template; this makes a lot of sense. Also, the notice template for that is broken, and if you really want something to do, you can fix it. -Justin (koavf)·T·C·M 05:54, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

mail

no problem! all talk pages are public, and the more people who comment, the better!! Slrubenstein | Talk 12:05, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of use rpage

John I have trouble with somebody repeeatedly tagging my user page for speedy deletion. pLease intervene quickly -see the bottom of my talk page ♦ King of Baldness ♦ 16:10, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

Well its a little strange to have my user pages attempted to be speedied twice. It looked like clear vandalism and I have absolutely no idea how the user could have done it by accident twice. ♦ King of Baldness ♦ 16:21, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

Seems that way doesn't it. I wasn't serious when I returned the "favor" I wanted to see what his repsonse would be. It was the fact he did it twice I thought -WOW thats a first! must be a prankster. Seems he very trying to put a new article up for speedy -I;ve left him the admin link to show that this has been solved and that there is a drive to complete France at present which severla editors even this minute are creating. Sorry to bother you just alarming !! ♦ King of Baldness ♦ 16:29, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

What I did was a total accident. I accidentally clicked on the userpage instead of the regular page, and thinking that it was a regular page I tagged it for deletion. It was not on purpose, and this user responded in the worst manner possible. In the future, I will try to be more careful. Redmarkviolinist 16:32, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

Can you please remove my block thanks Kate ? 100$freehuman : ) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.220.6.59 (talk) 16:45, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

I can think of much worse ways in responding than I did Remarkviolinist. I'm afraid I don't generally respond very kindly to people who I believe are vandals but I can see it was a genuine mistake.

Anyway John any idea why the categories aren't showing up for Talk:Tshopo Province ? Ah it Ok I had to add a the ♦ King of Baldness ♦ 17:17, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

Preity Zinta

I've reviewed the article and left notes on the talk page. I've put the nomination on hold for seven days to allow the issues to be addressed. Feel free to contact me on my talk page, here, or on the article talk page with any concerns, and let me know one of those places when the issues have been addressed. If I may suggest that you strike out, check mark, or otherwise mark the items I've detailed, that will make it possible for me to see what's been addressed, and you can keep track of what's been done and what still needs to be worked on.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTD) 18:38, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

Well, I've tried to do something for now, but I'm immensely busy in real life. I find some of his comments very difficult to deal with. I think the lead looks nice but we only have to add the underworld controversy, because it was very very well publicised. I would be really grateful if you helped me a bit tomorrow with adding it. Just the wording is very important to me, and your writing is way better than mine. Thanks, Shahid • 22:29, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

For example. The 2003-present section starts with "three of the highest grossing"

According to him, it is "vague. Does it mean 3 of the top 5 or 3 of the top 100?"

My answer is "Well it means three of the top three.:)"

These films were the three highest grossing films of the year. Do you have an idea to write it better? Shahid • 22:34, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

In the very last para in the lead, what do you think about adding that (after the honesty etc): "This was primarily noticed in her testimonial against the Indian underworld during the 2003 Bharat Shah Case, after which she won the Indian National Bravery Award." Shahid • 22:43, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

Again thanks for your help with Zinta and in fixing the banners as I suggested. They look great now you've done very well! I'm afraid I'm at that stage where I've lost my enthusiasm for wikipedia which I get every now and then. I only feel like spending half on hour max on here at present. ♦ King of Baldness ♦ 20:32, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

LOL yes indeed. There should be a category for editors who resemble hissing evil serpents or evil magicians too. I picture Sarvagnya as Professor Severus Snape or Randall Flagg the magician from the Stephen King novels. One might even say he;d make a good Wormtongue from LOTR also ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ 17:09, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

Category:Unassessed-Class Spain articles

Hi. I deleted this, but I'm confused as to why you didn't do it yourself...... ? Pedro :  Chat  20:51, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

Hey, that's why we promoted you :) ...No worries!Pedro :  Chat  —Preceding comment was added at 20:57, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

Problems in Template WPPT

Hello John. Your last edits to the WikiProject Portugal's template seem to be causing problems that I'm afraid to have only noticed now. For one, the importance category seems to have been broken. For instance, Low importance-Portugal article now displays only a sandbox page from your user space. On the other hand, articles that did not need an importance rating like templates and categories now have an enforced "importance" switch making their assessment broken.

I don't want to go ahead and just undo your whole edits to fix these issues, so I thought it would be best to ask for your help to fix them.--Ivo Emanuel Gonçalves (join WP:PT) 01:03, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

Cannabis - tree of life - thank you

I am pasting this here, but it's on the original discussion page as well. Feel free to delete here.

I am only double pasting because I am going to leave wikipedia alone for a while and I wanted you to read this before I left.

...

Thank you for everyones time. Blueboar, your right. Let's end it as I'm sure you guys have more important things to do. One more note from me though: =)

PLEASE READ: It is in no way my original theory. The word "Kaneh Bosem" describes the use of cannabis in the torah but MSJapan wont allow that article as he is offended by cannabis in general. There is a media blackout relating to the historic use of cannabis, and I'm willing to bet almost nobody reading this knows about the historic use of cannabis in general. Nice blackout ay? Do some research, make some phone calls. I am not credible but no one will fact check me, interesting. I would be happy to call people, site references, whatever it takes. I figured the "tree of life" is a speculative topic and that all the research you have is riddled with generalities. Sorry my generality was cannabis, I know there has been billions of dollars put into stopping that generality. I forgot how effective that much money can be.

But it's not just me getting blackballed for sharing credible insight, look: http://en.wikipedia.org/The_Emperor_Wears_No_Clothes <- here is a professional researcher going through the same thing as me. Look at his page, notice a complete absence of information? This is no joke, all he is able to put up is a "contest to disprove it"? What about the actual information?

Once again thank everyone for reading this. If I must be suppressed, that is fine. It's not like this information hasn't been trampled by everyone on earth since the Catholic church changed the word Kaneh Bosem to Calamus. Keep up the good work. True history will totally disrupt the nice path of destruction mankind is blazing by criminalizing the potential best natural resource ever found. May everyone please try and see both sides here. I am not an authority, I can't overwhelm anyone with my side and make them see it, you would have to look yourself. However, I must note that no one will even listen to the authorities on the subject. We have a 70+ year media blackout around the world. Please look into it. (For a starting point on the media blackout in America please look into the Hearst media empire and a man named Herman Oliphant.) Btw, I'm related to the man that did the most to criminalize cannabis in the US (Herman Oliphant). Credibility via distant DNA? =)

--TaylorOliphant (talk) 18:53, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

Thanks - you are very right

Very right. I will adhere to the information you gave me and move very slowly in creating more refined content in the future.

It means a lot that you cared enough to direct me. No one sent me that info and I agree, that would have been great. I will be very careful with what I post in the future. If possible, I would like to ask you are another admin before I add something to a discussion page also. This banter that I set up has taken a ton of my time due to my ignorance and desire to communicate somewhat effectively.

Whatever I can do to show my respect.

Thanks, --TaylorOliphant (talk) 20:01, 8 February 2008 (UTC)-T

Cannabis and Hermetic Allegory

Wow, I just looked at your personal page. Your really the one I should have been talking to this whole time. I will get back to you in a week or so with a very pragmatic article for your approval. So mote it be. =) (Btw, this info is ALWAYS hidden from the profane or so I hear, that's why I didn't label the tree of life graphic cannabis, people should be aloud to figure that out on their own. I just like that graphic because it highlights it) Btw, I study hermetic philosophy based on William Walker Atkinsons work, I don't belong to any groups.

--TaylorOliphant (talk) 21:19, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

I just read what you wrote on my page. It looks like I should just keep all my replys in this comment box and not add others -sorry.

I too am a Christian, myself of the New Thought variety. Have I met you? =)

--TaylorOliphant (talk) 21:32, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

Also, just the fact that you saw the graphic is exciting to me, based on your integrity and what you know, there is no way that graphic will ever leave your head. If you didn't see my post earlier, I'm related to Herman Oliphant, the gentleman that did the most to criminalize cannabis in the US. I know that if I can incorporate some level of questioning of the current laws about cannabis into masonic and religious thought (based on their own true history) I will have done the world a ton of good by giving the truth back to the people. Hopefully in some way, I will have made amends with The All for my Oliphant kin's very poor choice. You may be the only wikipedia editor that has a shot of getting what I'm trying to do and why. So, thanks again, and please excuse my lack of wikipedia experience. I will work very hard not to damage my family name more than has already been done by Herman Oliphant.

--TaylorOliphant (talk) 21:44, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

Btw, I didn't mean to imply you were a New Thought Christian, but that I was also a Christian. If you are New Thoughtish, thats cool, but I'm not sure how that pan's out with the Catholic thing. Btw, I'm very pro Catholic as well -pro celebrating culture but not pro "infinite hell" dogma. I like the infinite love dogma myself. =) --TaylorOliphant (talk) 22:07, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

Hello again - I've edited my user page with a bible quote that backs up the masonic connection with nice allegory. Read it if you can. Well, the quote about hemp right below it is the main point really.

Howdy - I've pretty much given up on adding that image to wikipedia for now -I thought the Tiferet page would be fine but nay, not at the moment. I found this image: http://www.hort.purdue.edu/newcrop/ncnu02/images/hemp01.gif just now and thought it might be really powerful in light of the godislove.png image -of course the new image isn't a wikipedia idea, just a visual aid to promote my cause with you. Not that I feel you need/would act on my behalf, but that I feel, as someone who is apparently genius, you will do something good with this information if you are so inclined. I'm probably leaving wikiland for a while, I hope that I have somehow had a positive impact. (Btw, the new image has 11 leaves which I don't even know really exists in nature, 7 is the usual number.) The image also lacks fuel and cement, but it's still good. As you can tell by my edits, I care about accuracy very much. =)

God Bless, --TaylorOliphant (talk) 07:53, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Also, while I'm denying the fact I have more important things to do, you may be able to resolve this: http://en.wikipedia.org/Talk:Herman_Oliphant =) --TaylorOliphant (talk) 20:51, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Hoping for your support for the A-class review of the William Stacy article

Hello again John Carter. My apologies for the bother, but I was hoping for your final support on the A-class review of the William Stacy article. I incorporated the edits that you suggested. Thank you, ColWilliam (talk) 01:02, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

WikiProjects relating to the UAE

John Carter, I think the best thing would be to merge all the WikiProjects (except for WikiProject Dubai) into a WikiProject United Arab Emirates. Each emirate does not have many articles relating to them, and they are not that important (in my opinion) to have their own project. Each emirate can probably be a subproject of the WikiProject UAE. How does this sound? Thanks. Leitmanp (talk | contributions) 01:57, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

Warlord no more

Gosh, why would John Carter think that changing a username could be more trouble than it's worth? ;)

I always liked your old username. Not everyone will get the reference with or without the Warlord, of course, but I thought it was fun. I have wondered, if I might impose to ask: Why did you change it? Did you abdicate your lordship out of concern that the old title seemed a bit aggressive for an administrator? Doczilla (talk) 05:03, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

Thanks john : )100%freehuman (talk) 09:22, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

WP:Eurohist Collaboration of the month

I drummed up a quick idea for a nominating system for collaboration of the month, to avoid this lag time we're having. Check it out.

Cheers! - Revolving Bugbear 13:47, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

Huh?

I was surprised to see your 'vote' here; it is an image with a colour added, the associated debate is irrelevant. If someone adds it somewhere, that is not a cause for deletion. Neither is a "hidden POV", whatever that is, giving a cause either. IMO, well, you can probably guess my opinion on the actions of 'them', so I will skirt WP:NPA on this occasion. Other than that, love your contributions and hope you keep it up. Cheers, cygnis insignis 03:01, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the reply. It is a fascinating topic, another interest that we share, but it is certain to be a controversial one. I now regret that I chose to introduce myself with a sour note, if I post here again it will be on a more cheerful subject. Best regards, cygnis insignis 07:55, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

RFA thanks

.: RFA thanks :.

Thanks for supporting me! My RfA passed with a final tally of 5 neutrals, 1 oppose and 148 supports, a turnout I couldn't have dreamed of. I'm going to do everything I can to help out the community, help with sysop tasks, and of course, contribute to the encyclopedia. If you ever need a hand with something, feel free to give a shout! Cheers! Master of Puppets Call me MoP!☺ 17:26, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

A little advice

Hi John. I need a little advice please.

As you already saw, in 2003, Zinta starred in the three highest grossing films of India (The Hero (3), Kal Ho Naa Ho (2) and Koi Mil Gaya (1)). In 2004, in the top-grossing film in India (Veer-Zaara). Apart from that, during 2003-2006, she starred in top grossing Bollywood films in the overseas market (Kal Ho Naa Ho, Veer-Zaara, Salaam Namaste, KANK).

I know all of that cannot be added in the lead. We only mention that she starred in two annual top grossing films in India (Koi Mil Gaya and Veer- Zaara) and that Salaam Namaste and KANK were top grossers overseas.

We don't mention that she starred in the three highest grossing films of 2003, that Veer-Zaara and Kal Ho Naa Ho are overseas top grossers etc., but the seconf para in the lead states: "Zinta received her first Filmfare Best Actress Award for her performance in the drama Kal Ho Naa Ho in 2003."

By saying that, we are ignoring the fact that Kal Ho Naa Ho was a hit (and it was the second highest grosser in India and the top grosser overseas). I thought to add that it was an "internationally successful" film, meaning, to add to the sentence: "Zinta received her first Filmfare Best Actress Award for her performance in the internationally successful drama Kal Ho Naa Ho in 2003."

The film was definitely a big success abroad. It was translated into several languages, released on different dates with different titles. Not only was it the top grossing Bollywood film abroad, but it was a big success for itself. See this and this.

So can I write the above-mentioned description? Please tell me what you think. Best regards, Shahid • 19:05, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Oh thanks! I hope nobody takes it as POV. Regards, Shahid • 19:31, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

If you don't mind me butting in - I would personally avoid the generalisation that it was "internationally successful" as this implies that it is most countries. I would be inclined to be more specific and mention the countries that the film was most successful in, unless i am wrong and it was successful in countries of Africa, Latin America and South East Asia? Probably it was successful in North America and the states and Australia etc and perhaps many European countries some obscure like Finland and in Morocco, North Africa but I doubt it was in many others. ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ 22:22, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

John, please tell me if it sounds well according to you:

"The film was received favourably by critics, and became India's second biggest hit of the year after Koi... Mil Gaya. It also did well internationally, and surfaced as the biggest Indian hit of the year overseas, earning over Rs 600 million worldwide."

Thanks, Shahid • 16:43, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Thank you, and sorry for bothering you so much with this article. Regards, Shahid • 16:52, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

More on banners

Oh hi Shahid small world. When I commented on the Botswana banner I had anticipated that you had made them all like that, Having worked on articles related to Guatemala and Bahrain for instance today I see they are still as before. Do you intend making them the same way? ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ 22:16, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Right now, as indicated on the Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject Africa page, the Africa banner has a serious problem in having too many switches, apparently more than the server will support. I've suggested breaking up into 5 banners, on for each region, or removing the importance assessments there, to make the existing banner servicable, and would appreciate any response of any kind there. There would be a problem in creating the regional banners, in that there would, seemingly, then be cause to create projects to match those banners, but like I said the server doesn't want to work with the existing banner. John Carter (talk) 22:20, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

I had a feeling something like that would happen. I'm not going to suggest seperate banners as I know so much effort is going into uniting it all as one but what five regions are you referring to? Do you mean like North Africa, Western, Eastern, Southern and Central Africa? Are there such classifications? ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ 22:26, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

The UN breaks Africa up into five regions, as per Africa#Territories and Regions. Actually, breaking up the existing banner into five separate banners wouldn't be that much work. There might be a question about the matching regional projects, though. John Carter (talk) 22:31, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Hmm its not that I;m thinking about. I'm considering if normal editors went in to tagging a page in the future and might be confused over which template to use. E,g they would try the national one and see there isn't one then would try the Africa one and not see that (because it isn't reading as WikiProject Africa anyway its AfricaProject) and by the end of it would probably give up unless they are sensible enough to find the project page which instructs them. I;m just trying to think what would be the easiest solution for normal editors ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ 22:37, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

If the five regional banners and possibly projects were created, there wouldn't be much if any need for the existing Africa project template, and, maybe, not even the Africa project itself. John Carter (talk) 22:40, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

That would be a good solution I think. To divide up Africa by territory and split the editors into the five different areas and then each of the five assigned to look after its divisional countries e.g the project pages for each country. I've always thought the "Africa Project" is shamefully generalized -could you imagine the "European Project" existing as one without divisions!!!! but something tells me that the project don't want change and would rather they remained as a continental project., but unfortunately we'll have to put up with uneveness for some time until more become interested over time in the individual countries.

Anyway talking about Guatemala/El Salvador earlier I found a web book on the History of Natural Disasters in El Salvador which has got to be over 500 pages long. Each page has information on like 10 or more different earthquakes or events throughout its history. I started 1717 earthquake earlier but you could probably create 10 or more articles using each page alone let alone on all 500 pages!!! There must be a potential few thousand articles missing from that book alone. Just imagine how many articles are missing from each of these places in total. Ahhh I promised I would try not to whimper over that. ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ 22:56, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

As long as you aren't making more work unnecessarily for yourself it doesn't really matter. Keep me posted on what is happening with them anyway. Regards ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ 12:14, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Anyway I've fixed the settlement box for Mexico so inofboxes can be added to articles like Álamos. Looks cool doesn't it!! I can't believe how many Mexican articles are untagged. Perhaps you could unlease a bot to tag them all?! ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ 16:52, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Mexico is one of the largest countries I've seen where most of the articles don't seem to be tagged. Could you help out, or did you intend using a bot? ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ 17:40, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Yes I noticed a few but strangely some of the older ones weren't tagged. And of course they aren't assessed yet. Most I've come across are either start class or stubs. Possibly most who would be likely to be from Mexico and a contributor would unfortunately be working for spanish wikipedia instead ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ 18:58, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

There appears to be a problem with the list parameter for France banner. See Talk:César Awards 1976. Could you correct it thanks ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ 21:18, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

I take it you couldn't fix the french banner above? Also Uzbekistan and Turkmenistan and a number of the other central asian places need "bannerizing". You probably haven't forgotten ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ 21:53, 12 February 2008 (UTC) Yep no probs, it would certainly make life easier if a bot could be programmed in to tag articles of a certain length as stubs anyway. I know this has been done in the past. Given that most articles are stubs it would save a lot of unneccesary work. I;ve also idenified the lack of coverage on those central asian countries - most people don't even know the capitals of countrie such as Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan, Kyrgyzstan etc let alone about its other cities - even I get them mixed up occassionally. Turkmenistan looks not far off the size of Turkey and we know how many settlements and articles Turkey has or could have!! I;ll tag them as e.g Turkmenistan= for now so when you add the paramters later it will be set up ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ 22:01, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of Template:Micronesia/Task force categories

A tag has been placed on Template:Micronesia/Task force categories requesting that it be speedily deleted from Misplaced Pages. This has been done under section T3 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is a deprecated or orphaned template. After seven days, if it is still unused and the speedy deletion tag has not been removed, the template will be deleted.

If the template is intended to be substituted, please feel free to remove the speedy deletion tag and please consider putting a note on the template's page indicating that it is substituted so as to avoid any future mistakes (<noinclude>{{transclusionless}}</noinclude>).

Thanks. --MZMcBride (talk) 21:37, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Messianic Judaism

The article Messianic Judaism you nominated as a good article has failed , see Talk:Messianic Judaism for reasons why the nomination failed. If or when these points have been taken care of, you may apply for a new nomination of said article. If you oppose this decision, you may ask for a reassessment. jackturner3 (talk) 21:42, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Masonry and the kabbalah

I'm sure your busy and probably a little tired of me. =)

If you have time sir, I think you might have good insight on this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Freemasonry#Pike

(And feel free to tell me I'm wrong too, I'm here to learn, not to show people how smart I think I am -which varies a lot, let me tell you)

This is a good debate ay? Misplaced Pages is such an amazing thing. --TaylorOliphant (talk) 23:36, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

http://en.wikipedia.org/Masonic_bodies <- searched for "advanced" turned up nothing, but I see what your saying. I don't know anyone that actually uses the term "advanced degrees" either (This hit me after the fact -I do see/hear the term "advanced degrees", but I don't really restrict myself on that basis normally, maybe I should. --TaylorOliphant (talk) 04:57, 13 February 2008 (UTC)) Although, I do have personal insight into what a few York/Scottish Rite members think of the kabbalah and I should have no problem at all giving it a small home on the their respective articles. I am tempted to have an actual Mason add it also, so I might wait a minute for one of my friends to get wikified, we'll see how it goes. When I first was given a copy of Morals and Dogma I refused to read it out of respect for the "masonic use only" quote under Pike's picture in the front. I really try to be good about respecting masonic boundaries but I'm learning that masons generally like me and don't really care what books I have access to because my integrity is my highest priority. (Unfortunately my spelling and grammer often suffer, especially when I get a tad worked up like earlier. I'll proof read a few hundred times before I actually submit anything. =)

Re: Kitties

I suspected as much; but, at least for the near future, I'd like a break from large groups of kitties. ;-) Kirill 01:40, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Military history coordinator selection

I know you have commented on the pages already but here goes: The Military history WikiProject coordinator selection process is starting. We are aiming to elect nine coordinators to serve for the next six months; if you are interested in running, please sign up here by February 14! Woody (talk) 11:06, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Talk:Preity Zinta

It failed GA. Please see my comment on the talk page. I disagree with the review for the simple fact that I'm not forced to add any other reviews from Western critics, and it is not supported by any GIAFA criterion. And if you see with some more observation, in the NYT site, there are no other reviews describing her film performances at all. She is an Indian, I can't see why we must add Western reviews when A) Western reviews cannot describe her better than Indian ones. B) There are not many Western reviews describing her film performances at all. In the NYT, there is only one review describing her performance in the film Salaam Namaste, and nothing else. I find this review completely unfair, and there is no basis to his claims. Please do something. This article is definitely a GA. Regards, Shahid • 17:23, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Yeh but there are no other Western reviews. Where can I get ones from? I can't invent them. She is an Indian, not an American. Will he agree if I add Indian reviews to Angelina Jolie's article? It is quite irrelevant. Shahid • 17:32, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Do you mean ref no 7? Is it really a concern? I didn't know that... The case is, when I took part in the Cillian Murphy FAC I saw that one editor suggested to collect multiple sources into one ref, when they come to backup the same claim. Is it really prohibited? Thank you for the help. Shahid • 18:21, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Wikiproject Brunei

I just noticed you upgraded the BWG to a complete Wikiproject. Does that mean we have to update the "This project This article is within the scope of ..." box on the talk pages of each of the individual pages to reflect the change as well? --Novelty (talk) 03:51, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

Thelmadatter´s student

Hello John!!! my name is Judith and I am in a course with Leigh, she told us you are a very reliable mentor that could help us during this semester. These days I am trying to get familiarized with wikipedia but it is really new for me. Specially the use of codes is driving me crazy!, so, if you can give some advise I will really appreciate it. I was trying to modify the boxes in the right side of the Wikiproject Mexico. I do not know how to write things in that boxes or load an image...

It would be a pleasure to have contact with you! Have a nice day! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Judithsq (talk • contribs) 15:23, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

Thanks!!! I refer to the infobox, I read the link you placed in my talk page. If the infobox already exists and I want to load an image like a city photo, where do I have to save the image first?, after I have it I just write for example "toluca.jpg" in the field |image_map=?, another doubt is how to write the coordinates of a place in fields such as: |longd= |longm= |longs= |longEW=W. Judith Soto 21:55, 15 February 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Judithsq (talk • contribs)

Lucia Brocadelli of Narni

Dear John, my name is Vincas and I see that on 15 April 2007 you were the author of Blessed Lucy's biography which was mainly based, it seems, on *Blessed Lucy of Narni. It needs a number of corrections - or even a complete revision, which I myself, with my limited English, feel unable to provide. I added some new references and lifted the last paragraph from the same source but I feel very hesitant to continue.

Duke Ercole never wanted to build a convent in NARNI, he did not "kidnapp" her, there was no bloodshed involved... etc... etc —Preceding unsigned comment added by Vincas (talk • contribs) 17:00, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

YOU RESPONDED: All the information in the article was previously added by me on the basis of it being included in one of the four references I had listed. If you are aware of contrary information, probably the best thing to do would be to indicated exactly which pieces of data you dispute based on which sources on the article's talk page, and then we can go over how to phrase the content accordingly. John Carter (talk) 18:00, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

HERE IT IS (looks so simple but it took me almost a day!):

1. "Later, Lucia left for the desert to become an anchorite. That was enough for Pietro. He had her returned to his home".

• There was no desert and Pietro did not have her returned. Lucia one evening went to a Franciscan monastery nearby (un eremo dei frati francescani), found it closed and early in the morning returned home, claiming that she was led back by two saints. (Gino Cotini describes this event in much detail).

2. "When Easter arrived, Lucia and Pietro agreed that she wasn't really suited for marriage, and he released her. Lucia then returned to her mother's house and became a Dominican tertiary".

• Pietro did neither agree nor did he release her - Lucia escaped to her mother's house secretly. Fullerton writes: "Lucia remained in her mother's house for a year; during which time she had to endure much from the indignation of her husband, who expressed his own disapproval of her step in a very summary way, by burning down the monastery of the prior who had given her the habit".

3. "Shortly thereafter, she went to Viterbo and joined a group of Third order Dominican tertiaries... She was reported to have received stigmata, which she did her best to hide, and was frequently in spiritual ecstasy".

• Not "shortly thereafter" but the next year (1495) she went to Rome and in the beginning of 1496 was sent to Viterbo where on 1496 February 25 she received the Stigmata.

4?.("The bishop would not make a decision on Lucia, and called in the local inquisition. They referred the case directly to the Pope. He spoke with her and, with the assistance of Columba of Rieti, ultimately decided in her favor, telling her to go home and pray for him".

• The sources disagree. But it seems that she neither ever went again to Rome nor ever spoke with the Pope.)

5. "When Lucy returned to the convent in Viterbo, she found that the Duke of Ferrara, Ercole d'Este I, had determined to build a convent in Narni and that, having heard of her, he determined that she would be its prioress. Lucia... agreed to go..."

• In summer of 1497 Duke of Ferrara invited Lucy to come to Ferrara promising to build her a monastery there. Lucy herself, the Domincan Order and the Pope agreed immediately - the municipal councel of Viterbo objected.

6. "Lucia's departure precipitated a battle between Narni and Viterbo which would continue for two years. Viterbo wanted to keep the famous mystic for themselves, and the duke wanted her in Narni. The duke sent his troops to Viterbo to take her by force. After much bloodshed and loss of life, he did so, and she was brought to Narni."

• The two-year "battle" was between Viterbo and Ferrara. There was much correspondence, embarassement and wasted money but no bloodshed or loss of life. Finally Lucia escaped from Viterbo secretly and was solemnly received in Ferrara on 1499 May 7.

7. "The duke sent his daughter-in-law, Lucrezia Borgia, to help attract new postulants to the new convent".

• Lucrezia Borgia arrived in Ferrara three years later, on 1502 February 2. She was never sent anywhere. True - the Duke had asked her to bring some candidates from Rome for Lucy's convent - which she did. This I found described in Edmund Gardner's Dukes and Poets in Ferrara, 1968. Vincas (talk) 15:59, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

YOU RESPONDED: Are you saying all the information you added was based on that single source? I need to know this because no information can be added without having at least a listed reference. John Carter (talk) 16:05, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

NO - all the information was based on three sources - the biography by Georgiana Fullerton (I am even putting her words in #2 in quotation marks), the biography by Gino Cotini ("un eremo dei frati francescani" in #1 are his words) and the book of Edmund Gardner. The Gardener's book I had from a library but the first two sources you can see in the "References" of the Misplaced Pages article. Vincas (talk) 17:21, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

YOU WROTE ME: I'm going to assume your sources are better than mine and try to adjust the content accordingly. Unfortunately I'm a bit pressed for time today, but will try tomorrow. John Carter (talk) 17:06, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

I am sure you did not forget it. Maybe today? Vincas (talk) 18:17, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

Actually, I did. Sorry about that. I have made most of the changes you requested. Your quote above does not regarding Lucrezia doesn't specifically indicate that she wasn't "sent" by her father there, so I have kept that much intact. However, if you could indicate specifically which sources you used to verify the information you gave me above, so that I can place additional citation templates for that information as per guidelines, I would be very appreciative. John Carter (talk) 18:49, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

Thank you. Still I thought my main contribution was that Duke Ercole NEVER wanted to build a convent in Narni. That he never wanted Lucy in NARNI and that the two-year-conflict was betwen Viterbo and FERRARA; two cities 230 miles apart (while there are only 30 miles between Narni and Viterbo; both are only about 50 miles from Rome). A fact already well verified in the both sources I mentioned... Vincas (talk) 14:27, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

Hey, I don't know anything about Italian geography, so I didn't know how distant the two places are, and thought they might be neighbors or something. Thanks for the clarification, I'll change it as indicated. However, if you were to want to add citations to the article regarding which statements were specifically sourced where, that'd help a lot. I've read elsewhere that people think the length is good enough for GA status, but that it would need additional in-text citiations to get there. If you can give me any ideas where to put citations for the information you've given, that'd help a lot. John Carter (talk) 14:33, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

I CERTAINLY wanted and began looking for CITATIONS to the article, regarding which statements were specifically sourced where, but found that this would take me much more time than I presently have. After spending quite a while I decided to do it in the future and do it gradually, a little section at time.

So right now I decided only to go lightly over present text and to iron out some minor details so it would be ready to accept the future improvements. And then... when I came to Ferrara-Viterbo conflict I began reading Cotini. And suddenly discovered some new and important details which I had missed before. And which would require not just "ironing out" but a new text.

For example, where we now have "The Duke petitioned the local bishop... and the bishop sent six nuns"... Cotini writes: " In 1503, the 26th March, the POPE Alexander VI sent a breve apostolico ordering to send 12 sisters from the Second Dominican Order in Ferrara to" Lucy's monastery. The number of sisters there was increased from 72 to 84. (And I somehow had kept the impression that there never was more than about 40).

And so on. The new prioress - Sister Maria da Parma - was elected 2 September 1503 but nothing much happened until Duke Ercole died on 24 January 1505. Until Lucia was 28 years old... etc etc

Will try to incorporate all this gradually. For now I am only sending my revision up to the City Conflict. (Concerning the words: "The duke sent his future daughter-in-law" I reordered "Dukes and Poets in Ferrara" from the library again.) Vincas (talk) 15:35, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

WP Shakespeare

Yeah, I found it just after I posted that message and joined. Thanks, George D. Watson (Dendodge). (talk) 17:59, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

Living daylights afd

As you are a James Bond project member its a little disappointing Vikrant didn't discuss this with his peers in the project first particularly as he was the one who merged them in the first place. See Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/List of James Bond henchmen in The Living Daylights and fele free to offer your views. Thanks ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ 18:05, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

LOL yes indeed. There should be a category for editors who resemble hissing evil serpents or evil magicians too. I picture Sarvagnya as Professor Severus Snape or Randall Flagg the magician from the Stephen King novels. One might even say he;d make a good Wormtongue from LOTR also ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ 17:09, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

Hi John I'm not too up on whats going on myself but User:PHG seems to be having a lot of dfficulty, whether is rightly I don;t know but a constructive editor like that who has out a lot of good work into wikipedia should never be discouraged from editing and if there are factual accuracy concerns I feel this could be discussed easily with the group concerned rather than filing an arb to block the user. See User talk:PHG and Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/Franco-Mongol alliance/Workshop. The situation seems to have got way out of hand. PHG is concerned that he is being bullied, Perhaps you could read up on it and chip in, I haven't left much of a comment and I don't know the details either, but from my experience and John Hills, an expert on central asian history this editor has a history of excellent and valuable contributions to the project and I'd hate to see another editor like that feeling forced to leave ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ 17:45, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

SE Asia template

You seem to have messed up a bit of code when you did your edits to Template:WikiProject Southeast Asia. See Talk:Pak Khlong Talat, for example. Calliopejen1 (talk) 20:11, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

Re: Scientology merger

I appreciate your sentiments and they have been duely noted. On an unrelated matter, your Talk page is ridiculous, you should consider having it archived at a faster rate. - YYN (talk) 17:29, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

Doczilla's RfA

.: Oh, no! There goes To-ky-o! Admin Doczilla! :.

File:Godzilla(01)reverse.jpg

Thanks for !voting! Thank you for !voting in my RfA which resulted in the collapse of civilization with 92 (94?) support, 1 oppose, and 1 neutral. Blame jc37 and Hiding for nominating me, everyone who had questions or comments, everyone who !voted, everyone who tallied the numbers correctly, and WJBScribe who closed without shouting, "No mop for you!" Seriously, your response has overwhelmed me. I am deeply grateful.

     "The bad news is time flies. The good news is you're the pilot." - Michael Althsuler

Doczilla RAWR! 06:15, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

coordinator election

The Wikiproject History is going to elect 3 coordinators. As a member you are invited to participate. Wandalstouring (talk) 10:47, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

Sounds like a discussion that calls for input from you

Please see: Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Council#WikiProject_banners.--Doug. 18:14, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

E-mail

You'll be receiving one soon. Rtac. 22:05, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

WP:EH collaboration

I changed it to Monastic state of the Teutonic Knights and added your suggestions to the nominate page. - Revolving Bugbear 23:03, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

France

Trust me on this one. At least five wikipedias have had these for years and we are laggin way behind but precious few people realise it., Once they are started infoboxes can be copied directly from french wikipedia and articles can begin development. Basically I'm half way through putting 30,000 new article onto wikipedia. Notability is without a question. You could probably write many articles on places within them on churches etc etc let alone an article on the town. See Ottrott. Does that look like a notable place which a lot could be written about? You'd be amazed how much is actually missing. My method is the best way to set up a platform to build the content on.

♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ 00:07, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

I can see you aren't convinced. I would normally always add an infobox and some facts but because of the sheer amount missing , yes which should have been started at least five years ago this is the best way to get it up and running. I don;t think you are understanding that many of these places are actually towns and it is quite ignorant of wikipedia not to have something on them yet. Some of the "useless" or "non notable" German geo stubs on here -have a look at German wikipedia. Full articles like Chicago and will a heap of lovely images to boot ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ 00:28, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

Yes I thought you felt the same way. I've actually proposed some kind of inter-wiki translation system to Jimbo to be created which would enable articles on other wikipedias to be translated quickly and vice versa. When I was looking for some info on Hungarian and SLovakian places I found tons of info in the native languages but none in english. When I google search for some kind of translation system the ones like babelfish only cover a handful of the biggest languages and you have to pay exorbitant amounts to access a Hungarian translation package and the ones other than the most common world languages. I genuinely believe if we could found some sort of Wiki Translation programme we could see knowledge flowing even easier. I for one if we had some form of system would be filling out the stubs as we speak. Jimbo will probably ignore it but if you think it is a good idea I am thinking about making a formal council proposal on arb. Let me know your thoughts on this ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ 00:39, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

Yep. I know it has some flaws like that but the idea in principal is good I think. Even between Latin and Spanish Spanish words like coger mean radically different things in general expression! I'm sur epeople could identify the obvious mis translations but I think it would be good to bring up the subject. If you weren't convinced before see Albas. Then look at the French wikipedia article ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ 00:49, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

Niue? We need images? I'll have a fish around in flickr see if I can make an agreement. There should be a lot of images on there. I've just realised why User:Rudrasharman who displayed a very cynical view of things at that bot discussion last night and who mocked it and appeared rude; he is a close ally of Sarvagnya. They have got to be the coldest and most cynical bunch of people I've ever come across. ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ 17:02, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

I would suggest making an agreement with a user likerock farmer at flickr. Check out how many countries he has in there. Includes lots of countries we need images for including Niue, Botswana. Kryrgzstan etc. ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ 17:10, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

Yes I see what you mean. You;d think the government would be willing to put the island out there and raise awareness of it if the economy is suffering. Perhaps this would interest you ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ 17:13, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

Could you find me a more specific link. See also this. Did you know that User:David Shankbone has been forced to leave wikipedia. I hate seeing these admin pages and the attitude of other people on this site and how deluded they are with what wikipedia is about. So many are missing the point. Well you know how I feel about most of the editors I;ve come across on here anyway. They seem to forget it is an encyclopedia which needs a huge amount of development but rather a playground for cyber-bullying. Not good. ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ 17:26, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

Please check your email. I;ve found you a contact ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ 17:29, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

WP:Central Asia

WOndering if you are planning on sorting out the banners for WikiProject Kazakhstan, WikiProject Kyrgyzstan, WikiProject Tajikistan, WikiProject Turkmenistan and WikiProject Uzbekistan. Also you could do with archiving your talk page! ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ 19:44, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

Oceans project proposal

I have received a comment to the effect of maybe instead of creating a new project for Oceans, we might try to reactivate the now-dormant Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Oceanography. If we were to do this, I would prefer expanding the scope, and probably changing the name, to reflect the expanded scope. However, it would have the advantage of not requiring the five members to justify creation of a separate project. Do you have any opinions in the matter? John Carter (talk) 14:27, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

• Yes, this sounds like a good idea. What exactly would the scope be though, I'm not sure how the scope at Misplaced Pages:WikiProject_Council/Proposals#Oceans is much broader except that it includes a reference to history.--Doug. 04:02, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

The only real difference would be in the amount of "categorization" as it were. The extant project deals with the Category:Oceanography, while the proposed project would probably deal with the rather broader Category:Oceans, or, probably more specifically, articles in that category that aren't already explicitly covered in the scope of any other active related project. Exactly how many more articles that would add I don't know though. John Carter (talk) 16:29, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

OK, let's do it.--Doug. 03:43, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

Jodhaa Akbar

Hello! I need your help John.

124.125.208.23 (talk · contribs) keeps on reverting the above-mentioned article to his very version. His version means -- some unreferenced claims, reviews from unreliable sites and above all -- the full history of the name "Jodhaa Bai" (and what historians think about it) which he thinks belongs to this article, while it is irrelevant here because it is an article about a recently released film, and the history of this name belongs to another article called Akbar. In this article it's irrelevant. I was reverting his edits, warning him, discussed the issue on the talk page, and even another editor told him that this info was more relevant to the page of Akbar, but he keep reverting. That's how the page looked in his version. Total violations of WP:LEAD, WP:N and WP:UNDUE

Not only that, he also reverted all the edits by all editors, while there were numerous constructive edits in between, like formats etc. I turned to User:Riana yesterday but she seems to be busy. During the night, he took my request to stop adding it and moved the so called info (which is referenced, but irrelevant) to the synopsis section... Imagine to yourself, the history of the name Jodhaa Bai and what historians have to say about it in a synopsis section! See the version after his night edits -

Today I requested for page protection because of heavy vandalism, and was sure that he would stop with that, but now I see another editor, Itihaaskar (talk · contribs) who is a clear sock puppet of this IP, reverting the page to this IP's version! Again, reverting altogether, with no consideration of the in-between edits, even the protection template was removed -- see that comparison.

Please do something, I'm losing my temper. This info clearly belongs to the Akbar aticle, and he still keeps doing the same. This guy has a documentative history: he used a sockpuppet, and is going to violate not WP:3RR. My best regards, Shahid • 17:16, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

What about hm using a sockpuppet? Shahid • 17:30, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Indian Christianity

		Star of The Indian Christianity Articles
		Thank you for help in Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Indian Christianity Tinucherian (talk) 19:02, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

Another afd

I'm amazed at this latest nuke proposal. See Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Pál Balkay ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ 21:48, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

I've just come across a new article Manoir de Brion which links a village stub I created on Genêts earlier. Coincidience or what? In fact it was only created less than two hours ago and already somebody else had created a related article ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ 22:17, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

I haven't created many today as I'm feeling a bit discouraged after the comments made yesterday by Sarvagnya's friend. I need to learn to not let people like that affect me. All of the articles will be expanded soon enough and I feel I am making good progress whatever anybody else thinks. Its a shame most of the french editors don't edit english wikipedia! ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ 22:30, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

I hope so. There's just a really cold air that surrounds that group, almost like the Nazguls in lord of the rings. I just don't get why people get off on being mean and how they can possibly justify their attitude as in good faith. I've got some learn french books anyway I should aim to start being able to at least read and write it. ANyway I;m trying to fix the Template:Location map Guyana I just created. Its all messed up and showing the town on the article I tried in on down below the wikipedia free licensing terms and I don't know why!! -ah simple mistake. The map template is correct I just assumed Guyana was south in coordinates rather than north ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ 22:44, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

There we go. Georgetown, Guyana. Guyana locator map works. ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ 22:59, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

Category:Ecuador articles? Whats happened with that? ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ 19:55, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

Thats odd. Why bother creating a different category? Now its messed up and there is no assessment of it ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ 20:04, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

Asking for your help

Hello there,

After my teacher´s recommendation, I kindly ask you to help me with one topic for this writing course. I have to choose a topic related my major. I do not know whether you can guide me in order to look for something related to economics, international trade or something else related to these topics.

She asked us to look for something which is not in wikipedia yet. I know I have to be more specific, but meanwhile I hope you can give me your first commentaries.

My user name is Citlalli Garnica.

Thanks for your attention and time. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.139.140.248 (talk) 00:03, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

Please see comments here. John Carter (talk) 00:14, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

request for assistance on RfC

I just read your reply here. May I request your assistance in preparing/presenting the RfC, and of course, a request that you add your own view after? Would greatly appreciate it. Ncmvocalist (talk) 01:19, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

Elijah Gates Assessment

As the creator of the Elijah Gates article, I have posted a reply to your comments regarding your assessment of the article on the article's Talk page. --TommyBoy (talk) 03:02, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

WP East Timor

Wow! I can't believe what a bonehead I am to have missed that! Can I just remove my idiotic proposal then? Thanks and sorry for the confusion! – Scartol • Tok 14:06, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

I'll be happy to make a userbox today, but the link on the main project page is to the template namespace, and my understanding is that such boxes should only exist in userspace. How about I make it in my userspace? – Scartol • Tok 14:08, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

Archive your talk page

I don't know if you realise but your talk page is a whopping 262 kb and my computer screeches to a halt when I leave a message. Why have you stopped archiving it? That bot doesn't do it any more. ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ 20:07, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

I changed the length of time for archiving earlier this month, and evidently the bot screwed up. John Carter (talk) 20:12, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

Ah I see. These are the kind of images that are valuable to the encyclopedia. See Image:Primary Laos.jpg and the images I added to Luang Prabang. I've flown over Laos via Hong Kong-Bangkok and was amazed even 35,000 feet up how lush it looked. Things are gradually developing, this time last year I remember the commons only had about 4 or 5 pictures of Laos other than maps ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ 22:17, 19 February 2008 (UTC) Thats good. Anything like that is a plus. Yes thats why I feel so strongly about developing these "exotic" places across the world as I feel any encyclopedia which can venture into the "misty" territory, places people have never heard of or likely to have seen in detail which an abundance of images makes it more exciting and mystical, particularly when they look as ecologically and culturally rich as this. I think it makes the site more special and more of a treasure to have a greater amount of places and images we can get hold of. I don;t know about you but I find these world cultures and places really special, fascinating. When I;'ve made flickr agreements I;ve been looking for images which capture parts of the world as they are, people in every day activities etc, every day streets etc. Too many city articles may have images of the panoroma or a few buildings but little of what is actually experienced there in every day society. This we should try to capture I think and most of the flickr users I have come across are also attempting to do this. Good luck with Niue, hopefully they'll respond. The more agreements we make with people the better. ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ 22:37, 19 February 2008 (UTC).

Yep those infoboxes and locators and images make a big difference even if they are still stubs. See Sam Neua, Vang Vieng and Xaignabouli. Vang Vieng looks like an ideal spot for a swim don't ya think -looks rather inviting I think. We as yet only have about ten articles on towns in Laos. Theres probably a few more out there than that ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ 23:16, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

I've just added about ten images to Bodrum Castle. That place looks awesome!! ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ 00:34, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

OhanaUnited's RFA

.: Thank you! :.

Bot tagging request

Would this be a good opportunity to convert {{WPReligion}} to use {{WPBannerMeta}} before the number of articles tagged with this banner gets overly huge? It seems a fairly standard banner, so probably no drama converting. I can do it if you want me to. Happy‑melon 18:15, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

Current tagging

Hello John Carter. Unfortunately, I fear that you may not have thought through the tagging request that you put in that betacommandbot is now performing. A quick look here will show you several examples of articles that have been tagged incorrectly. As I stated on the bots talk page there are many articles that can fit in the scope of a given category, but, don't necessarily fall into the scope of the religion project. Biographies and works of fiction are particularly apt in needing this distinction. Please don't take this the wrong way. I am not upset with you (betacommand's snarkiness is another matter) and the damage is already done. Other editors will cleanup the unneeded tags over time. This is just a note to give more consideration to things like this in the future. Thanks for your time and happy editing. MarnetteD | Talk 19:14, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

You seem to be missing the point. The categories that you included in your request have 100's if not 1000's of articles in them that have little or nothing to do with the wikiproject for religion. As I went through the bots contribution page I found at least four in a short period of time that met the criteria for the category but not the project. The Doctor Who article can easily fit in the scope of reincarnation just as Ben Kingsey's article is about a man who is a Indian/Christian just as the article about the song Lillibullero‎ fits into its anticatholic category to say nothing of the villages known as Jasb. None of them fall into the province of the wikiproject for religion. As I am not the only editor that noticed the mistakes that the bot was making it looks as though the tagging of the categories that you listed in your request would be better off done by a human. It should also be noted that it would, most certainly, be wrong to begin to remove the categories from the pages in question just because they don't fall into the scope of the religion project. MarnetteD | Talk 19:43, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

You have again missed the point and your escalating rudeness is a bit sad. The inclusion of the page Louis Auguste Blanqui in your tagging shows how that you did not think through your requests. This matter is now at the admin notice board as you already know please take all future discussion there and a consensusu will be reached one way or the other. MarnetteD | Talk 20:10, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

A quick look shows that I was not the first to complain to betacommandbot nor did I start the thread on the AN page. I tried, politely (and AGFing}, to point out the pitfalls of the path that you had taken. I am now trying to add to the attempts to achieve consensus with other editors. As always I will abide by that consensus. MarnetteD | Talk 20:24, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

I wonder does it make any sense for Rosie O'Donnell to be tagged this way? (I'm not even sure what category got her the Religion/Interfaith tag.) Aleta (Sing) 21:23, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for your answer, John. I read the posts at ANI after posting here, and realized it must have been the Anti-Catholicism, as well as that you're following up on all the tagging. I'll leave it alone for now, and let you figure out whether or not to leave it. I know the category itself has been controversial for her page, which I mainly passively watch. :) Aleta (Sing) 21:44, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

Why are all politician bios getting project religion tagging? Mikebar (talk) 06:39, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

Spamming

Concerns about your edits have been raised at Misplaced Pages:Administrators'_noticeboard#Mass-spamming_by_User:John_Carter_and_User:Betacommandbot. Johnbod (talk) 19:46, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of Template:User WikiProject Hanseatic League

A tag has been placed on Template:User WikiProject Hanseatic League requesting that it be speedily deleted from Misplaced Pages. This has been done under section T3 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is a deprecated or orphaned template. After seven days, if it is still unused and the speedy deletion tag has not been removed, the template will be deleted.

If the template is intended to be substituted, please feel free to remove the speedy deletion tag and please consider putting a note on the template's page indicating that it is substituted so as to avoid any future mistakes (<noinclude>{{transclusionless}}</noinclude>).

Thanks. --MZMcBride (talk) 19:47, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of Template:User WikiProject Hotels

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If the template is intended to be substituted, please feel free to remove the speedy deletion tag and please consider putting a note on the template's page indicating that it is substituted so as to avoid any future mistakes (<noinclude>{{transclusionless}}</noinclude>).

Thanks. --MZMcBride (talk) 19:47, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

Former Rabbit?? :)

I think all of us are probably former rabbits if one believes in evolution :P

Cheers, --Be happy!! (talk) 22:39, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

No worries! I noticed it was a typo. Cheers, --Be happy!! (talk) 22:53, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

IZAK

I am very sorry for the drama which you have been involved in due to IZAK. I also have been subject to his personal attacks, incivility, violations of WP:OWN and know several others who have. Based on him behavior as of late, which seems to be out of control, might you be interested in participating in a RFC/U on IZAK? Bstone (talk) 18:21, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

He does have a strong a long history of personal attacks, not assuming good faith, incivility, etc etc. As a matter of that history might I suggest you read this? Let me know what you think. Bstone (talk) 18:30, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

I am not sure if Shirahadasha can help out here. IZAK here seemed to indicate that he puts little weight in other opinions. I think I may begin to fill out the RFC/U paperwork and begin collecting diffs. Bstone (talk) 19:03, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

Per your request, the RFCU is here Bstone (talk) 20:35, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

Meetups

Hi, John. I've left you a reply at Misplaced Pages:Village pump (proposals)#Sponsorship of meetups?.. Thanks.--Pharos (talk) 20:07, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

Contact

Actually I did contact you regarding lot of things in email a few days ago regarding your proposal. Can you tell me if you received that email or not? Hobartimus (talk) 17:01, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

I'm confused do you have access to email right now or just in the previous days was it off? I'd much rather discuss this in email. Hobartimus (talk) 17:07, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

Ok I see the problem was I missed your post on Talk:Hungary as there was another discussion going on there. I sent another email hopefully these internet problems will soon go away. Hobartimus (talk) 17:19, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

After you get your email capabilites back we can discuss everything at length but I just want to comment on quickly what you wrote on Talk:Hungary "There has been a lot of attention recently to the fact that some talk pages have far too many banners, and that the presence of all those banners is becoming a bit of a distraction. ... In fact, in the near future I'm going to try to persuade some of the other European nation WikiProjects whose banners don't include separate assessments to do the same thing." If in the future other countries' wikiprojects will be set up in a different way, maybe all of them will be under an European megaproject, then WikiProject Hungary will probably consider it as well, but right now we have the feeling that we will go with what's already worked namely simulate the setup of other existing WikiProjects. The Hungary project will use separate assasment depending on the importance of each topic within the scop (top, high, mid, low importance within the context of the project). I only moved the proposal because I thought you were too busy to respond to my email or were no longer intrested in the topic. Again ,more on this in email if you just reply to it I will know it's fixed. Hobartimus (talk) 21:36, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

Central Asian banners

John I asked you before but when are you going to get around to sorting the banners for the central Asian work groups? Isn't central and west asia all that is left to do now with banners? ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ 00:39, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

Any reason why you keep ignoring me whenever I ask a question about central asia? If you don't intend sorting it just tell me . Thanks ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ 19:16, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

Ah I see I had a feeling it had something to do with that. If I am not mistaken I can almost guarantee it was probably the guy who does a lot of work on Mongolian articles User:Latebird???. I've found him very rude and self important in the past -I bet he was probably moaning about "WikiProjects" existing rather than taskforces which "is so wrong" right??? ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ 19:27, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

Well I think it is a good idea anyway to identify what is missing. ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ 20:34, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

I figured pages like WikiProject Togo/Missing settlements, WikiProject South America/Bolivia/Missing settlements etc would be useful for each project to work through also and would be linked as one of the main areas of focus for each wikiproject. I don't see anything more important than covering places on here ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ 20:39, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

Yes I can see why some of the lists might scare people a little, but I feel it is important to identify the gaps which many people don't seem to realise. I take it you mean in comma form e.g Acha, Achawida, Actam, Adat, etc rather thatn bullet points which can make it look bigger? ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ 20:44, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

Of course there is the question of whether all places are notable enough for an article. I am a firm believer that most places have some sort of encyclopedic value. I think that articles like Kuchuma and Akwidaa etc are worthy additions. I remain optimistic that more information will gather on more places over time. This wiki Internet thing is still a baby and I am adament information will gradually become more liberal and developed over time. I don't see wikipedia disappearing any time soon, and I think it is good to strengthen the project in this way. Like yourself I feel it is important to plan and organize it the best we can ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ 20:51, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

Biography portal rotation suggestion

Please see here. Thanks. Carcharoth (talk) 04:25, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

IZAK rfcu

Is located here Bstone (talk) 03:04, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

Welcome to Indian Christianity WikiProject

Hi john , Please also join the project.

Misplaced Pages:The Problem with Projects

Hi, I have Wikified Misplaced Pages:The Problem with Projects but I may have mistakenly edited out some of your other recent comments by mistake. Please review and see what you wish to add in that got left out. Kindly avoid using "I" in a proposed policy essay. Thank you, IZAK (talk) 18:22, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

Non-notable bible divisions

Hello. On a recent AfD, you commented that articles written on a chapter-by-chapter, verse-by-verse, or lection-by-lection, basis about the bible was not the best way to break up the subject matter.

I have proposed a guideline about this - at Misplaced Pages:Organisation of Bible articles, and I wonder if you would like to comment on it.

Clinkophonist (talk) 18:45, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

WikiProjects

I have the impression from your /Directory subpage that you would like to sort WikiProjects according to the 1.0 scheme. I think this would be a very natural thing to do, at least at the top level of the hierarchy, and am willing to help. I came here via the WikiProject categories, which are in a similar state of disarray. Geometry guy 21:25, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

I replied on my talk page. Geometry guy 22:13, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

Capinota

I just came across Capinota and seeing a comment in the talk page and its editing history i think the article is the result of a school translation for learning english. I remember you said about people translate for wikipedia to practice their language learning, it looks like this is the case here. Shame it is unreferenced but I think its a good that these places are developing. Anyway I;ve now nearly added an infobox map to every in Guatemala, I;m doing a few for Bolivia now ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ 21:31, 24 February 2008 (UTC).

ANI

I have reported your behaviour here. Please don't post on my talk page again. Johnbod (talk) 00:18, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Oceanography

I support your suggestion to broaden the scope of the currently stagnant oceanography wikiproject. Oceanography itself has a broad scope, but there are various aspects related to the oceans that wouldn't within under it; at least technically. Hopefully it'll help get the oceans stuff going, as I checked for interest in this sorely lack area before and there was some, but just as I was starting the project new work was laid on me and I had less time again. If in the future participation grows, perhaps then the oceanography could be separated into subprojects or descendant projects. Thanks for volunteering to help! Evolauxia (talk) 13:39, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

User:Dineshkannambadi

I had left a warning on this user's talk page for removing tags that I had left on an article evidenced here. The editor has replied by leaving the same warnings on my talk page when they are not relevant. Could you (in your capacity as an administrator) please delete the warnings off of my talk page, and advise the above editor that there is no validity in the warnings he has given back? Would appreciate it. Ncmvocalist (talk) 01:39, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

I agree, and have told the editor that I won't place anymore templates on his talk page. It seems that I do not have a particularly good relationship with certain editors (all of whom are) from, or significantly contributing to the Kannada Wikiproject and wish to advance certain notions in the article Carnatic music. Being a member of the assessment team of WikiProject India, I am convinced that some of these compromise with NPOV, and therein lies much of the disagreement. Of course, there is an editor who blatantly refuses to comply with behavioural guidelines and policies, and as I've mentioned on an earlier occasion, that editor will be listed for Rfc at my earliest convenience. Ncmvocalist (talk) 09:19, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

Hi. About user:Ncmvocalist

Sir, If you were to look over my current talk page, you will notice that user:Ncmvocalist has earlier templated me twice for which I replied once. He has been throwing templates around freely for reasons other than the current issue and dates back to on going discussions on Carnatic music. Throwing templates on users talk pages without discussion is to me a form of harrassment. Please warn him not to put templates with out discussions.Dineshkannambadi (talk) 02:07, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. I will surely keep your advice in mind.Dineshkannambadi (talk) 02:22, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

I didn't simply say that the website didn't have a bad reputation (!!) I took constructive steps to have the dispute resolved, by going to the reliable sources noticeboard and asking for an opinion independent of editors who have contributed to Carnatic music. There, I agreed and accepted that the website may not be reliable for that bit of information. However, an editor pointed out (with an example) of a reliable source that indicates that that bit of information could indeed be included in the article. Anyway, coming back to the issue: the templates aren't thrown around freely - they were carefully chosen to aptly identify what was 'wrong'. It wasn't intended as a form of harassment (if it qualifies as one). Ncmvocalist (talk) 08:35, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

Propsal: Make WikiProject Sherlock Holmes a task force of WikiProject Fictional series

As you are the most active editor of that WikiProject, I was wondering if you think that a move to Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Fictional series/Sherlock Holmes would be too outrageous? That way it won't have to stand on its own. - LA @ 09:38, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

Would you be willing to work with me, tagging all WikiProject which would benefit as a task force under WikiProject Fictional series? I have a starter list of fictional series as a subpage of the project here. I would be willing to make a template to tag the other projects' talk pages with to make things easier. It could create a temporary category for these projects to go into. We would have to start a dispute page in case of outrage by other projects' participants. Have anything else to add? - LA @ 15:14, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

Tag WikiProjects with the following template.

{{Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Fictional series/merge}}

- LA @ 15:31, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

Let's stay with multimedia series for now. A lot of series qualify for that. I have a few more series in mind to add to the list, some may not currently have projects, but you never know. The template link is fixed, and it is based on other merge templates. - LA @ 15:39, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

What if I word it as an invitation..."WikiProject X has been invited to become a task force..."? - LA @ 16:03, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

It would be the Mortal Kombat task force with a video games department. :) - LA @ 16:23, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

Urgent admin intervention needed at the Hummus article

Hi John: My attention was drawn to the Talk:Hummus page, see Talk:Hummus#Hebrew/jewish/Israeli references and Talk:Hummus#RfC where some users are deploying the worst kind of blatant antisemitic and Anti-Zionist vitriol in violation of WP:HATE and WP:CIVIL, over a minor food article, yet, unbelievable. There are comments there that should be deleted on sight as well. Please check out that page and the violating editors. Thank you, IZAK (talk) 11:07, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

I would block myself under analogous circumstances. I'm not doing so because my perception is that a block by someone this user might perceive as biased would not be in Misplaced Pages's best interests and might not end up communicating the intended message. The user has 2 blocks in the history, one for 24 and one for 31 hours, so I would block for somewhere between 48 hours and a week. Best, --Shirahadasha (talk) 14:47, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

Thank you:)

Thanks for the barnstar. I feel very honoured to be awarded by a great editor like you, John. Thanks again, Shahid • 17:10, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages/Requests for comment/IZAK2

The Hebrew phrases at the end of my "outside view" comment are all allusions to a section of the Talmud, "Ethics of the Fathers" Chapter 4, paragraph 1, which can be found at e.g. here. Best, --Shirahadasha (talk) 19:26, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

I figured they were something along those lines. Thanks for the clarification, though. John Carter (talk) 19:29, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

User:Sarvagnya

I had left the above editor yet another warning for blanking material here for removing the templates here, but as can be seen in the first diff, he removed the warning, erroneously labelling it as trolling. He has then continued blanking templates as can be seen here. In addition to this edit-warring, this editor has resorted to harassment by reverting edits on my own talk page (which do not concern him at all). I really am at a loss to understand how much more disruptive editing would need to be tolerated by Misplaced Pages, before this is stopped (via a block/ban). Ncmvocalist (talk) 01:55, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

Need a help for Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Indian Christianity

Hi John , we need a help on fixing the article assessment stats for the project. Only 266 of 530 articles in Category:Indian Christianity work group articles are shown in Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Indian Christianity/Assessment , even after last bot run. The unaccessed are not displayed and the importance categorization is also not Shown. Kindly help to fix this - Tinucherian (talk) 02:26, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

Indonesian occupation of East Timor (1975-1999)

As the only other member of the East Timor WikiProject, I salute you.

There is a brouhaha stirring about this article, which I'm trying to get into FA shape. Charges of POV writing and conflict of interest have been made (and I'm trying to address them). I wonder if perhaps you'd have any thoughts on these discussions?

In a nutshell: The article was evaluated by Roger Davies as GA, then challenged vociferously by Gnangarra. S/he claimed that the discussion of US and Australian support for Indonesia is POV. (This comes amid a variety of other complaints, many of which I really don't understand. Apparently there have been a number of confusions on Gnangarra's part about the pagination of the CAVR report; you'll see what I mean if/when you read the talk page.)

I've trimmed the section on international responses to the occupation, but now Gnangarra is (so far as I can tell) requesting that the entire section be eliminated. I'm very much willing to work on this situation to reach an NPOV article, but I'm finding it difficult to figure out how to proceed.

The COI claim stems from the fact that I've been involved with the East Timor Action Network in the US for many years – and in 1999, the International Federation for East Timor's Observer Project. While I recognize that this presents a possible COI, I don't feel it should exclude me from working on this article, and I have made extraordinary fastidious efforts to remain NPOV at all times (and the article contains nearly 200 citations to reliable sources). (I even read and cited Ali Alatas's book, for crying out loud, heh.)

Any comments or feedback you'd care to offer would be appreciated. – Scartol • Tok 02:39, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

Understood. Rest well and I look forward to your thoughts whenever you can offer them. (As for the project – I must say that after this brouaha, I might have a hard time advertising for it!) – Scartol • Tok 02:42, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

V M Nonet

Next time you decide to get down to revert others and slap tags on an article, make sure you know enough about the subject to be able to atleast objectively evaluate sources. I know perfectly well what a RS source is and I dont need lessons from you or your friend who, when I last saw, was championing an utter screed of carnatic.net as RS. So save me your puffery and dont come to my page with unsolicited advice. If you have anything to say about the article, take it to the article's talk page. and just fyi, Dinesh is an editor who has authored a dozen FAs and probably hundreds of articles and if he removed the tag, that should count for something.. shouldnt it? It doesnt behove an admin like you to get into knee jerk revert wars like this especially when you know squat about the subject. Sarvagnya 03:14, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

I second User:Sarvagnya here. You and your friend User:Ncmvocalist need to know that in case a tag is disputed, the onus is on the person who has put the tag, to explain the reason on why the tag was placed. Any editor is free to remove the tag if he/she feels that sufficient explanation has not been provided on why the tags were placed. And stop behaving like a teacher and going around putting advices in talk pages of people who have been in Misplaced Pages for long. They are very much aware of the policies and need not be spoon-fed. By the way, how did you decide that User:Ncmvocalist was correct in putting those tags, when you hardly know anything about the article. Doesn't this show bias on your part? Thanks -- ¿Amar៛ 06:41, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

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