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April 2013

Good to see you still in working order - was a bit worried by the gap in your edit history trust all is well sats 07:48, 3 April 2013 (UTC)

All good mate. Am still around. I hope you're well too. Moondyne (talk) 08:32, 3 April 2013 (UTC)

As well as can be expected now living on sandflat - and recently on the Brookton highway, as well as the playing with verges Brookton to Pingelly, sheesh what a botched job.... sats 08:36, 3 April 2013 (UTC)

same again - need to say - its a great relief when you're in your white hat and in your shining armour, you come over the hill, and descend into editing again... sats 23:47, 27 May 2013 (UTC)

NYScholar sockpuppetry

Hi, User:66.66.27.196 looks to be another sockpuppet of the above. Recent activity Jezhotwells (talk) 10:40, 9 April 2013 (UTC)

Not all is lost

youre still around, still planning that lunch! sats 04:33, 23 July 2013 (UTC)

Am looking forward to that! Cheers. Moondyne (talk) 04:41, 23 July 2013 (UTC)

Oops

I'm not sure how folks 'talk' on talk pages Moondyne - don't know if they edit an existing conversation or start a new heading? Sincerest apologies if I've stuffed up your talk page - (I will learn). I need any help I can get :) What's the 'Wikisource' you mentioned in the post you made which I'm responding to? Calamity Hill (talk) 04:55, 23 July 2013 (UTC)

There's no hard and fast rules about 'talk' protocol. My preference is to almost always reply on the same page as is the immediate conversation I'm replying to. (thats bad sentence structure but I hope you get the drift). If you ask me a question on my talk page, I assume you'll watch my page to see the reply. Others prefer to always reply on their own talk pages and send the other person a {{talkback}} message. And others do as they feel. Your choice and not a big deal whichever way you go. Generally we only start a new heading if its a new topic, but again no hard rules.

Wikisource is a sister project to Misplaced Pages which aims to develop a library of free and open source documents. Old books is its bread and butter. Users there transcribe and proofread such sources which are then available to all. See s:Magic (Ellis Stanyon) for a sample. There's lots of collaboration as well as opportunity to potter away in the corner at your own pace depending on your want. Moondyne (talk) 05:12, 23 July 2013 (UTC)

DYK for An Account of Corsica

On 4 August 2013, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article An Account of Corsica, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that the 1768 journal An Account of Corsica (engraved illustration pictured) was so successful its author Boswell became widely known as "Corsica Boswell"? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/An Account of Corsica. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

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Dorothea Ann Fairbridge

Your requested article is available for download. OhanaUnited 20:33, 30 August 2013 (UTC)

Happy birthday to me

My first edit was on 28 October 2003; I've been here for 10 years today. Moondyne (talk) 03:36, 28 October 2013 (UTC)

didnt think you were that celebratory, .... well done - you survived !!! satusuro 04:42, 28 October 2013 (UTC)

Oh bloody hell, that is far too long. Get a life. 101.174.130.141 (talk) 02:51, 28 January 2015 (UTC)

Moondyne (talk) 05:28, 28 January 2015 (UTC)

docos on locals

nah will have to catch up on iview if it is there. the story about her is a bit too, how can I put it, close to a number of people of whom I have known or still know. Not specifically, but, complex things like that sort of make our city the ultimate location for the people in things like that to end up here. I think it means we need to have that lunch, before christmas! satusuro 08:12, 29 October 2013 (UTC)

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hello

having had a few years to think this one over - surely this is not really colonies - even now? https://en.wikipedia.org/Talk:List_of_Australian_penal_colonies - surely there is a better term, and considering the high level of sophisticated discussion there :) - we just move it to a better name?... cheers satusuro 01:54, 11 November 2013 (UTC)

Penal colony defines the term fairly well. What name would you suggest? Perhaps List of Australian penal settlements? Moondyne (talk) 02:15, 11 November 2013 (UTC)

hmm trumped, maybe we leave it like that but with qualifiers from the article you have referred to... satusuro 08:16, 11 November 2013 (UTC)

No need to feel trumped, but I'm not not sure what more I can do. Moondyne (talk) 14:26, 11 November 2013 (UTC)

no need - the lede is expanded and all is well... in a manner of speaking satusuro 23:38, 11 November 2013 (UTC)

mail

you have some, hoppy christmas etc. satusuro 15:24, 16 December 2013 (UTC)

Time to unprotect Banjo Paterson?

It's been three years. reinthal (talk) 13:24, 18 December 2013 (UTC)

Done. Lets see how it goes. Moondyne (talk) 21:24, 19 December 2013 (UTC)

Savoy Hotel

I actually moved it from my sandbox to the mainspace - only to find the reason it was in my sandbox was because there was a nomber of copyvio that I hadn't dealt with - so I tried to move it back to my sandbox but it would allow it because of a double redirect - so it got moved to a draft - who figures? Dan arndt (talk) 03:41, 23 January 2014 (UTC)

Indef semi

Happy to do so. Let me know if you want to reprotect later. Moondyne (talk) 09:11, 12 February 2014 (UTC)

Historic buildings

I just started a discussion at WP:AWNB about standardising the formats we use for historic buildings articles around the country, and with the work you've done in the area, I'd love your thoughts. The Drover's Wife (talk) 13:03, 16 February 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for asking, but I'll leave for others with more time and interest. Cheers. Moondyne (talk) 09:41, 17 February 2014 (UTC)

g'day

good to see you still around for spot fires... satusuro 09:44, 10 March 2014 (UTC) hahah with ipad and wikipedia - not worth it - one of my more major bad edits of 2013 because of that :( satusuro 13:25, 10 March 2014 (UTC)

I should stay at Wikisource where I cant hurt anyone. If I come over here again you can tell me to piss off. Moondyne (talk) 13:39, 10 March 2014 (UTC)

obviously the long talked about lunch of 2 years standing is needed soon - nah come back more often, the buggers here are more and more cretinous - your style is sorely missed... satusuro 13:44, 10 March 2014 (UTC)

fair enough - but the julie support is one thing - harry's hell be back inference does have a certain sense of the old dog is not down yet... and yeah reckon it should have an ip block on it too... satusuro 01:42, 11 March 2014 (UTC)

and reverting the text of what i had inferred would have been enough - the story of bishops support is in fact a good item to balance...an otherwise over-critical article satusuro 01:49, 11 March 2014 (UTC)

The principle should apply apply for negative and positive POVs. Else its a slippery slope. Moondyne (talk) 01:52, 11 March 2014 (UTC)

also when are you gonna launch your masterpiece with fin... it is such a brilliant hard worked on table - I miss your masterpieces - when ya gonna launch it? satusuro 01:54, 11 March 2014 (UTC)

References are flakey. Needs a lot more work. Moondyne (talk) 02:03, 11 March 2014 (UTC)

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Senani Ponnamperuma

Hi, just dropping by since you are both an old hand at WP, and a member of the Oz literature project. I came across problems at this article and have taken some fairly firm editorial action, and raised a sticky issue at the talk page. I don't really want to get involved, but i was concerned about some of the sourcing etc. It'd be great if some other uninvolved eyes were on this just in case there are problems. Cheers, hamiltonstone (talk) 11:26, 26 March 2014 (UTC)

Hi. I will look into this soon. In the meantime you might want to notify the spam noticeboard at Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Spam for wider opinion. Moondyne (talk) 13:50, 27 March 2014 (UTC)

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If Johnlp wants PP I'm happy to assist in that. Moondyne (talk) 00:32, 2 April 2014 (UTC)

Houston

Life is short. Why do you want to waste your time and mine edit-warring? Pdfpdf (talk) 15:40, 14 April 2014 (UTC)

I have plenty of time available for improving the project :P. Cheers. Moondyne (talk) 22:44, 14 April 2014 (UTC)

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Brilliant work. Moondyne (talk) 13:27, 11 June 2014 (UTC)

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Bridges

Note to self. https://www.engineersaustralia.org.au/sites/default/files/shado/Divisions/Western%20Australia%20Division/Panels%20and%20Societies/Heritage/Heritage_Bridges_Tour_Lo_Res.pdf Moondyne (talk) 14:33, 28 November 2014 (UTC)

hey

youre still around - good to see you still drop in every now and then.... :) HNY satusuro 10:04, 28 January 2015 (UTC)

Hi mate. Yep, I keep poking my nose in occasionally but am mostly over at WS these days. I thought this project would be finished by now! ;) All the best for another year. Where's that lunch you owe me? H. would be in for sure. Moondyne (talk) 10:28, 28 January 2015 (UTC)

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I still owe you lunch

Yeah and the other guy, whatsisname, - the spread of sections of notable residents in disparate locations looks suspiciously like the remnants of a training session somewhere that is not acknowledging as such, the session here in perth is worth mentioning at that lunch... satusuro 08:27, 30 March 2015 (UTC) fyi - would rerallhy like a comment JarrahTree 08:45, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

I think I got them all. Moondyne (talk) 08:32, 30 March 2015 (UTC)

Aus Inflation

Ive got no clue where to find some more recent data im afraid.Jason Rees (talk) 21:19, 30 April 2015 (UTC)

Me either unfortunately. Too bad. Moondyne (talk) 23:14, 30 April 2015 (UTC)

MLA Handbook for Writers of Research Papers

Hi, I see you protected this article several years ago, but can't really figure out why. I wanted to unprotect it, but there's a note that says that it was protected because of "office actions" and should not be unprotected without discussion. Could you have a look at it and, if appropriate, perhaps unprotect it? Thanks. --Randykitty (talk) 09:25, 21 September 2015 (UTC)

Hi. I don't know about office actions, but I do vaguely recall protecting it due to persistent abuse by a banned user. I cannot see any reason for it to remain protected now.

Done Moondyne (talk) 12:25, 21 September 2015 (UTC)

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happy new year and all

cheers and the legendary promised lunch is, believe it or not, coming up soon!!! JarrahTree 12:39, 29 January 2016 (UTC)

Reply to your message

I was not reverted by multiple editors regarding that particular comment. I was reverted for adding them as nicknames in the nickname box, which I agree wasn't the consensus, and I stopped doing that.

The new edit I made was to the actual article. There is no consensus against this. Please see User:BlueSquareThing's edit where he requested sources, and said that he wasn't against adding this to the article. I subsequently notified him on his talk page that I added it, and he seems to be in agreement (or, at least not in disagreement) as he hasn't reverted my edits following inclusion of sources.

I am adding this back. I don't see how you have the right to be condescending and revert my edits with a "minor tag" and then claim that you are better than me, in that somehow I have to explain myself on the talk page, rather than you explaining yourself as to why you are in opposition to this edit. As I said before, no-one is in opposition to this at the moment (they were only opposed to the nicknames section). Please take the time to read the situation carefully before jumping to false conclusions.

96.248.68.27 (talk) 23:57, 6 March 2016 (UTC)

And if you have further replies, please reply on my talk page. Thank you. 96.248.68.27 (talk) 23:57, 6 March 2016 (UTC)

If you didn't mark your edits as minor, then please explain the "m" in https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Adam_Voges&action=history where you have edited the article.

Also, the principles are not the same. I'm not claiming those are nicknames of Voges; I'm just claiming that pundits are referring to him by those names. Which is true and there is a large volume of recent news articles to back this up. As I said before (and will repeat), 2 or 3 out of the 4 involved did not disagree with the edits (i.e., either agreed, or were ambivalent). E.g., please see my talk page and BlueSquareThing's comment before yours. That is not a consensus against including the edits. The only user who was against it strongly was User:Pope.

It's clear that you are misinterpreting the situation/not taking the time to read it carefully (at least the comments by other involved editors). There is not a strong opposition to my edits. Thus, I plan on reinstating it. If you have a problem with it, then you should raise it as a discussion or discuss it with other editors.

As usual, if you wish to reply to my comment, please do so on my talk page. Thank you. 96.248.68.27 (talk) 02:34, 7 March 2016 (UTC)

I would also advise you to read https://en.wikipedia.org/Help:Minor_edit to understand when it is (and when it is not) appropriate to mark an edit as minor. 96.248.68.27 (talk) 02:37, 7 March 2016 (UTC)

your to do (scooby doo, dobeedo)

I trust Fremantle submarine base might meet your approval as a starting stub :) JarrahTree 23:45, 17 March 2016 (UTC)

Like Moondyne (talk) 00:29, 18 March 2016 (UTC)

thanks, it can be better, there are things that the tinkerers seem to have no knowledge of, will get added down the line I hope... JarrahTree 12:00, 18 March 2016 (UTC)

I always took the view that something is better than nothing, and articles generally improve over time as more eyes land on it. Just making a start is a good thing. Thanks JT & Mitch. Moondyne (talk) 15:19, 18 March 2016 (UTC)

P'raps Mike Nahan can sell it to the Yanks this time. ;) Moondyne (talk) 15:26, 18 March 2016 (UTC)

good of you to be optimistic, the problem is that tinkerers usually never add refs or content, just tinkle. As for the mane with an accent that is not ours, I think it will get scuttled, the way things look, or otherwise handed for a peppercorn, maybe the empire up north, if darwin is any guide as to where things go for $ JarrahTree 15:32, 18 March 2016 (UTC)

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You state that my addition of pundits' opinions is against Misplaced Pages policy. Please explain to me why so many articles of living people on Misplaced Pages have such opinions expressed. I can give you numerous references if you wish. (I feel like I read such hyperbole in almost every Misplaced Pages article about a living person, mostly with no references.) Policies should be evident from the situations in which they are applied, or else they are meaningless. Whenever anyone is considered notable for something (e.g., a great cricketer etc.), it is the opinion of pundits. There is no other meaning to that statement. Or, you can argue this point based on someone's objective record (e.g., their batting average), which is what I have done for Voges.

Please rescind your block warning (I don't see how you have any right to block me, in any case, I've done nothing wrong, and I don't believe someone like you has the power to do so, given your very aggressive choice of wording when communicating with other people). You have previously been condescending toward me. Instead of acting tough, hiding behind a computer screen and forming a gang of three to bully me, please try to engage in a debate about this. I've been arguing only with Jevansen and The-Pope. Other users have not gone against my claims. Experience is valuable but should not be used as an overriding reason in an argument. As I stated before, Misplaced Pages is an open encyclopaedia. I look forward to a detailed reply. 96.248.68.27 (talk) 00:20, 20 March 2016 (UTC)

I have reverted your message on my talk page, as I find it offensive and has no place in a civilised discussion between two equal people. By threatening to block me, your are putting yourself in a position of power over me, which is morally incorrect, especially in the context of a fair debate with regards to an open encyclopaedia. If you post such a message again on my talk page, then I will not hesitate to report you. Polite messages engaging in a debate, however, are always welcome. Please reply here instead of on my talk page. Thank you. 96.248.68.27 (talk) 00:23, 20 March 2016 (UTC)

Actually, I think I'm going to leave Misplaced Pages for some time. I'm dismayed by how I have been treated here with little effort by people to arrive at some middle ground between my edits and theirs (which is what I thought the meaning of consensus is from my real life experience, yet people consistently accuse my edits of going against consensus, when their edits do the same). Now, I'm being bullied and blocked. I don't want to be a part of this kind of toxic environment. You were aggressive and rude to me. I'm sure you are a good person in real life, but I found the way you behaved with me here to be offensive and impatient. Otherwise, I wish you all the best, and bid you farewell. 96.248.68.27 (talk) 00:44, 20 March 2016 (UTC)

As you wish. While "Misplaced Pages is an enclopaedia anyone can edit", your participation is a privilege which can be removed when you don't comply with our established policies and guidelines and the consensus of other editors. No-one wants to do that, including me. The choice is yours. Moondyne (talk) 00:49, 20 March 2016 (UTC)

I do intend to leave, but yet again, you give a vague response. You didn't respond to my claims, which counter what you are continually saying. I have dissected your "established policies and guidelines" and explained why "consensus" is being misinterpreted. Although I don't intend to be here anymore, I would like to see some kind of response to my message above. Thank you. 96.248.68.27 (talk) 01:52, 20 March 2016 (UTC)

You have been here a week, and in every single article you have edited (Voges, Khawaja, Bailey, Lyon, Australian cricket team in India in 2012–13, List of cricket batting averages, Australian cricket team in New Zealand in 2015–16, List of cricket batting averages) you have included contentious detail which has been undone, by multiple and experienced editors, together with guidance. In almost every single one you have edit warred and left comments such as "...I don't see why this is an issue" If you thought I was condescending, I can only aplogise as that is not my usual style. But, perhaps you can expain this gem. Moondyne (talk) 03:56, 20 March 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for your response. Firstly, I have not been here a week. I have been here for a month. How much cricket do you follow? Everything I have said is considered true in the cricketing world. I spend a lot of time reading cricket news etc. Regarding the George Bailey edit, he is in fact commonly considered a nice person in Australia cricket. How is it bad to insert that? See where it is written that "Aaron Finch and George Bailey are considered two of the good guys in Australian cricket". This view is actually commonly expressed and you will probably agree with it if you see how he conducts himself in interviews and on the field.

I also think you are misrepresenting the situation. Firstly, many articles have nicknames. So, my addition to Adam Voges was not out of the norm. I agree that I was a bit strong on that, but I did discuss with editors on numerous occasions. Also, it seems not to matter what I insert in the article: see, e.g., , an unfair reversal of my edit, which was subsequently reinstated: .

For Usman Khawaja, are you keeping track of Usman's batting recently? His run of scores is incredible, as is his timing (most recently on a difficult Indian pitch) and many believe him to be batting as good as anyone. I cited this (Mark Waugh, Michael Slater, Mark Nicholas, all cricket experts, have gone out and said this in the media, as well as others). Why in articles such as Sir Vivian Richards or Sachin Tendulkar (albeit somewhat extreme examples), is it mentioned something along the lines of "considered by many to be greatest ..." Is that encyclopaedic or simply the opinion of pundits? Why isn't that removed from the article? Why are my edits instead singled out for removal? This is the inconsistent application of policies that I mentioned.

For Nathan Lyon, my edit was in fact not reverted. GOAT is an established nickname; if you watch Nine's coverage of cricket during the summer, you will hear him being called this nickname all the time. My edit was kept, but only slightly changed because the reference I provided didn't support everything I said. Please see . However, everything I said was true, just difficult to reference without literally taking audio recordings of people.

My edits have not been undone multiple times except in a couple of occasions (most notably Adam Voges). I "edit warred" because I felt the same editor was going against my edits repeatedly. Why isn't he also responsible for edit warring? Why don't you post a message on his talk page too? It seems unfair. I felt that I was being singled out and no matter what I inserted, my edits would be undone. And I don't think I reverted them more than once or twice except in Adam Voges.

Finally, contrary to what you seem to be implying, I am trying to reach a consensus and discuss with other editors. Almost each and every time my edit is reverted, I go to the relevant talk page and engage in discussion. In these circumstances, I find it incorrect that you should threaten to block me. I accept your apology, but I hope you will consider trying to be a little less confrontational especially when you are not directly involved in the matter. Let me and The-Pope and Jevansen discuss this without threatening to block me. 96.248.68.27 (talk) 12:43, 20 March 2016 (UTC)

For your edit warring, please see the three revert rule. FiendYT ★ 23:23, 2 April 2016 (UTC)

hmm

see why WS is so inviting at times ! JarrahTree 01:01, 20 March 2016 (UTC)

Hiding Page History from Public View

Sir,Might you be able to help?The subject of the page requested for the History Log to be hidden from Public View.This is the link https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Arvind_Iyer&action=history Thank You (Rama2015 (talk) 03:11, 12 April 2016 (UTC))

The criteria for history removal is at WP:CRD - we'd need a fairly good reason for doing such a thing. It is not possible to remove the history page from public view. Moondyne (talk) 03:50, 12 April 2016 (UTC)

Understood now.Thank You.(Rama2015 (talk) 04:01, 12 April 2016 (UTC))

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