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] brought up a great point . I imagine if this was done with proper parameters we could ensure that every creator of a tagged article is notified, which would resolve this rather long-standing issue in the community. Of course, this may have been presented and denied before and I'm just unaware... but I figure, in the best interests of the community, the question should at least be formally asked. <small style="color:#999;white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:lightgrey 0.3em 0.3em 0.15em;">— ] // ] // ] // </small> 11:47, 24 June 2014 (UTC) | ] brought up a great point . I imagine if this was done with proper parameters we could ensure that every creator of a tagged article is notified, which would resolve this rather long-standing issue in the community. Of course, this may have been presented and denied before and I'm just unaware... but I figure, in the best interests of the community, the question should at least be formally asked. <small style="color:#999;white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:lightgrey 0.3em 0.3em 0.15em;">— ] // ] // ] // </small> 11:47, 24 June 2014 (UTC) | ||
== Vosges and Moselle bot request == | |||
] has just been moved to ] and ] to ] to make way for primary topics (] mountains and River ]). However, there are hundreds of villages in those departments now pointing to the primary topic instead of the department. We could make a big inroad into the changes if a bot could change all instances of <nowiki>] ]</nowiki> to <nowiki>] ]</nowiki> and similarly for Moselle. --] (]) 12:10, 24 June 2014 (UTC) |
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Making Category:Misplaced Pages template categories a container category
In theory, Category:Misplaced Pages template categories should be a container category with nothing but subcategories. In practice, it's not. Could a bot go through the main categories and systematically remove every subcategory from Category:Misplaced Pages template categories? This is a massive undertaking I'm aware (approximately 24k subcategories into a few main ones). For example, Category:10-Team bracket templates is in Category:Tournament bracket templates which is in Category:Sports templates, etc., etc. If it was cleaned out, I think it would be useful as a holding area for templates that haven't been categorized. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 19:19, 8 June 2014 (UTC)
- It may be a few moments work. The issue lies with
{{Template category}}
. All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 13:47, 11 June 2014 (UTC).
- 24574 transclusions. All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 02:33, 12 June 2014 (UTC).
- @Ricky81682: let me ensure I completely understand... you want every single subcat removed from Category:Misplaced Pages template categories? Or just certain ones? If it is the first, it should be simple, but if it is the second, I am afraid someone will have to manually go through every single subcat, pick out the ones that need to be removed, and either do it themselves, or list it somewhere for someone else to review. --Mdann52talk to me! 15:27, 17 June 2014 (UTC)
- @Mdann52: Does that seem like the accurate thing to do? Hypothetically, if it is a container category, it should be just that. It's an admin category so I know it's not critical remotely to the actual encyclopedia. Let me think on ways to come up with this a bit more realistically. Maybe a table of just one small subset for now (tourney brackets or something small) and see if it can be done in bits and pieces over time (like in the next decade or so). -- 17:17, 17 June 2014 (UTC)
- @Ricky81682: due to the nature of the task (mainly the 24000 edits!) This will probability require wider discussion. May I suggest posting at WP:VPPR? If no-one objects, or confronts, let me know. --Mdann52talk to me! 06:10, 18 June 2014 (UTC)
- Eh, I'll drop it. These are being added by numerous templates too. Until I get a better picture, it'll be a waste of time. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 06:11, 18 June 2014 (UTC)
- @Ricky81682: due to the nature of the task (mainly the 24000 edits!) This will probability require wider discussion. May I suggest posting at WP:VPPR? If no-one objects, or confronts, let me know. --Mdann52talk to me! 06:10, 18 June 2014 (UTC)
- @Mdann52: Does that seem like the accurate thing to do? Hypothetically, if it is a container category, it should be just that. It's an admin category so I know it's not critical remotely to the actual encyclopedia. Let me think on ways to come up with this a bit more realistically. Maybe a table of just one small subset for now (tourney brackets or something small) and see if it can be done in bits and pieces over time (like in the next decade or so). -- 17:17, 17 June 2014 (UTC)
- @Ricky81682: let me ensure I completely understand... you want every single subcat removed from Category:Misplaced Pages template categories? Or just certain ones? If it is the first, it should be simple, but if it is the second, I am afraid someone will have to manually go through every single subcat, pick out the ones that need to be removed, and either do it themselves, or list it somewhere for someone else to review. --Mdann52talk to me! 15:27, 17 June 2014 (UTC)
- 24574 transclusions. All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 02:33, 12 June 2014 (UTC).
WikiProject talk page tagging
WP:CHICAGO could use a project tagging run. Who is doing that now?--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 15:56, 14 June 2014 (UTC)
- TonyTheTiger I am doing it but after a series of failures I have some rules: User_talk:Yobot#New_rules_for_WikiProject_tagging_via_Yobot. -- Magioladitis (talk) 16:15, 14 June 2014 (UTC)
- I am a member of WP:CHICAGO.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 10:23, 15 June 2014 (UTC)
- I have placed a notice at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Chicago#Tagging_request_notice.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 10:23, 15 June 2014 (UTC)
- The request is for pages in the WP:CHIBOTCATS list.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 10:23, 15 June 2014 (UTC)
TonyTheTiger I'll start tagging in two days due to other priorities. I see a lot of red-linked categories in the list you gave me. Can you please clean it up? Thanks, Magioladitis (talk) 15:11, 16 June 2014 (UTC)
- Will the bot inherit ratings. I.e., if an article is a GA, FA or FL for other projects, will it tag the article with the same rating for us?--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 15:50, 16 June 2014 (UTC)
- Yes, I can do that. -- Magioladitis (talk) 15:52, 16 June 2014 (UTC)
- Great, I am just realizing how obsolete our bot tagging category list is. Can you wait until it has gone unrevised by me for 48 hours or until I leave a notice here that I am finished updating it.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 20:40, 16 June 2014 (UTC)
- Magioladitis, did you see this request?--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 20:05, 17 June 2014 (UTC)
- Great, I am just realizing how obsolete our bot tagging category list is. Can you wait until it has gone unrevised by me for 48 hours or until I leave a notice here that I am finished updating it.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 20:40, 16 June 2014 (UTC)
- Yes, I can do that. -- Magioladitis (talk) 15:52, 16 June 2014 (UTC)
Stub adding bot
I was recently helping someone out and noticed there was no stub relating to beauty pageant related stubs. I made one and would like to apply it to the 1000+ articles that are in the category without manually doing all of it. I hope I'm in the right place. :-) ♥ Solarra ♥ ߷ ♀ 投稿 ♀ 05:38, 17 June 2014 (UTC)
- @Solarra: seems simple enough... Doing... --Mdann52talk to me! 15:03, 17 June 2014 (UTC)
- @Mdann52: All of the articles have the category pinned to the talk page, just an FYI. ♥ Solarra ♥ ߷ ♀ 投稿 ♀ 02:40, 18 June 2014 (UTC)
- @Solarra: Should Template:Pageant-stub classify the article in something like Category:Pageant stubs? The current Category:Stub-Class Beauty Pageants articles appears to contain talk pages. Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 02:44, 18 June 2014 (UTC)
- @GoingBatty: It does and there in lies the problem. All of those talk pages are for actual stub articles that need a stub tag and 1000+ articles clearly warranted having its own template. Rather than making things complicated and making a completely new category when one already exists, I want to re-tag all those talk page articles on their corresponding main page with the existing category. ♥ Solarra ♥ ߷ ♀ 投稿 ♀ 03:05, 18 June 2014 (UTC)
- @Solarra: I've asked for guidance at Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject Stub sorting#Pageant stubs. GoingBatty (talk) 03:24, 18 June 2014 (UTC)
- @GoingBatty: It does and there in lies the problem. All of those talk pages are for actual stub articles that need a stub tag and 1000+ articles clearly warranted having its own template. Rather than making things complicated and making a completely new category when one already exists, I want to re-tag all those talk page articles on their corresponding main page with the existing category. ♥ Solarra ♥ ߷ ♀ 投稿 ♀ 03:05, 18 June 2014 (UTC)
- @Solarra: Should Template:Pageant-stub classify the article in something like Category:Pageant stubs? The current Category:Stub-Class Beauty Pageants articles appears to contain talk pages. Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 02:44, 18 June 2014 (UTC)
- @Mdann52: All of the articles have the category pinned to the talk page, just an FYI. ♥ Solarra ♥ ߷ ♀ 投稿 ♀ 02:40, 18 June 2014 (UTC)
@Solarra: I am aware; It is simple enough to flip namespaces. @GoingBatty: I am assuming you do not oppose going through and adding the templates; as it will be transcluded, it is easy enough to change them in future. --Mdann52talk to me! 06:34, 18 June 2014 (UTC)
- Category:Stub-Class Beauty Pageants articles is the wrong place to put these;
{{Pageant-stub}}
should feed Category:Pageant stubs. We already have{{Pageant-bio-stub}}
and the associated Category:Beauty pageant contestant stubs - I think there should be a connection between the contestant cat and the pageant cat, either by having one as the parent of the other, or making sure that they have a common parent. Redrose64 (talk) 11:02, 18 June 2014 (UTC)- @Redrose64: I have cleaned all of this up - the contestant article is now a subcat, and the template now uses the correct category. --Mdann52talk to me! 10:14, 18 June 2014 (UTC)
- @Mdann52: I didn't have an issue with adding the stub template, so I asked the question about the categorization here. Now that Redrose64 has brought
{{Pageant-bio-stub}}
to our attention, I will add a comment at Misplaced Pages:Bots/Requests for approval/Mdann52 bot 3. Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 15:08, 18 June 2014 (UTC)
Template:Cite CAstat subtemplates
Can someone move the subtemplates under Template:Cite CAstat (such as Template:Cite CAstat/title 1895 128) from Category:Law citation templates to Category:California law citation templates). There may be about 100 or so. There's also five under Template:Cite WAstat that could go to Category:Washington (state) law citation templates but five I can handle after a break. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 02:16, 18 June 2014 (UTC)
- As there are less than 200 edits, I will do this under my main account in a bit. Doing.... --Mdann52talk to me! 06:35, 18 June 2014 (UTC)
- 82 pages Just a heads-up; You appear to have 2 different formats for categories. Some use just ], while others (eg. Template:Cite CAstat/title 1943 964) use ], however this does not appear to affect the page or category. I also found a few which did not have any categories on, so I added the replacement category on them (with noincludes). --Mdann52talk to me! 07:11, 18 June 2014 (UTC)
- @Ricky81682 and Mdann52: Regarding categories in template code: using
|{{PAGENAME}}
for the sortkey: this has two common reasons. The first, when used used on categories that are either bare, or wrapped in<includeonly>...</includeonly>
, is a valid purpose: it overrides any{{DEFAULTSORT:}}
that may be present on the transcluding page, so that the transcluding page sorts in "natural" order. The second, when used on categories that are wrapped in<noinclude>...</noinclude>
, is obsolete: it excludes the namespace from the sort order. At one time, templates always sorted under T, because the namespace was taken into account for the "natural" sort order; but somewhat more than five years ago the system was changed so that the namespace is ignored, meaning that constructs like<noinclude>]</noinclude>
may be simplified to<noinclude>]</noinclude>
in the majority of cases. The only times that such simplification may not be advisable is if the template has a{{DEFAULTSORT:}}
, which is rare. --Redrose64 (talk) 10:23, 18 June 2014 (UTC)
- @Ricky81682 and Mdann52: Regarding categories in template code: using
- 82 pages Just a heads-up; You appear to have 2 different formats for categories. Some use just ], while others (eg. Template:Cite CAstat/title 1943 964) use ], however this does not appear to affect the page or category. I also found a few which did not have any categories on, so I added the replacement category on them (with noincludes). --Mdann52talk to me! 07:11, 18 June 2014 (UTC)
Finding users who misuse their user page for advertisement
Based on this discussion I am wondering if a bot operator is able to compile a list of users who have exclusively edited their user page. A large fraction of such users is likely to have misused for advertisement. --Leyo 21:44, 18 June 2014 (UTC)
- Looking for "exclusive" edits won't really do the job. Most userpage adverts I've come across have been added to categories, that I've then removed from that page, ruining your exclusive criteria, pages will also have been edited by users and bots removing FUR images as well. Try searching for templates like Infobox VG, and then manually checking to see if its an advert.- X201 (talk) 16:13, 19 June 2014 (UTC)
- @X201: I think you're talking about something different than what Leyo is asking for. You are asking for "The set of user pages that have only ever been edited by the page owner". What I think Leyo is asking for is "The set of Users who have only ever edited their own userpage" Hasteur (talk) 19:53, 19 June 2014 (UTC)
- Yes, that's what I meant. --Leyo 21:55, 19 June 2014 (UTC)
- That sounds like the people who think Misplaced Pages is like Facebook/MySpace/Linkedin, etc. and who log in only to setup their "profile". Most edit only that user page and sometimes their talk page. Some might also edit things related to their user page, but usually one or two articles at most. It is doable, but not sure how much resources. If you went simple and made a list of editors with <50 contribs, and >70% of their contribs contain their user name (user and talk pages), you are going to be pretty darn close. Dennis Brown | 2¢ | WER 13:06, 22 June 2014 (UTC)
- You might also want to add users who have not edited in the last x days, to avoid those new editors who are in good faith actively working on an article draft. GoingBatty (talk) 13:43, 22 June 2014 (UTC)
- Good idea. What about restricting the query to users who edited no other page than their user page? A second query might then be done in a more sophisticated manner. --Leyo 20:43, 22 June 2014 (UTC)
- I agree that limiting it to "last edit >90 days" or similar, but you want to also get the guys that make a couple of edits outside of their user page. Such as to their band or similar article. I see that pretty often, hence the ratios I gave. Dennis Brown | 2¢ | WER 20:45, 22 June 2014 (UTC)
- Good idea. What about restricting the query to users who edited no other page than their user page? A second query might then be done in a more sophisticated manner. --Leyo 20:43, 22 June 2014 (UTC)
- You might also want to add users who have not edited in the last x days, to avoid those new editors who are in good faith actively working on an article draft. GoingBatty (talk) 13:43, 22 June 2014 (UTC)
- That sounds like the people who think Misplaced Pages is like Facebook/MySpace/Linkedin, etc. and who log in only to setup their "profile". Most edit only that user page and sometimes their talk page. Some might also edit things related to their user page, but usually one or two articles at most. It is doable, but not sure how much resources. If you went simple and made a list of editors with <50 contribs, and >70% of their contribs contain their user name (user and talk pages), you are going to be pretty darn close. Dennis Brown | 2¢ | WER 13:06, 22 June 2014 (UTC)
- Yes, that's what I meant. --Leyo 21:55, 19 June 2014 (UTC)
- @X201: I think you're talking about something different than what Leyo is asking for. You are asking for "The set of user pages that have only ever been edited by the page owner". What I think Leyo is asking for is "The set of Users who have only ever edited their own userpage" Hasteur (talk) 19:53, 19 June 2014 (UTC)
Stubs or little articles for instances of canton of France
The list
shows several cantons of France that have an article in 10 or more Wikipedias but not in the English Misplaced Pages. Here is some research:
- item class: https://www.wikidata.org/Q184188 canton of France
- instances in WikiData : 4040
- There is no canton specific article in English Misplaced Pages Category:Cantons of France that is not matched to an instance of "canton of France" in Wikidata: , the page lists only dab pages, list articles or some other non-canton specific article
- instances in Wikidata that have no item in Category:Cantons of France : 3225
So, it would be nice if a bot could use data from Wikidata or/and French Misplaced Pages to create stubs or little articles.
The page Canton of Chalamont could be used as a model.
Tamawashi (talk) 01:29, 20 June 2014 (UTC)
- @Tamawashi: Not a good task for a bot. Article creation bots are generally controversial, so it would Needs wider discussion. at the very least. --Mdann52talk to me! 15:34, 23 June 2014 (UTC)
Need recurring bot to build list of all pages in WikiProject Louisville
Hello, I'm looking for a bot that can run roughly once a week that can build a list of all the pages in WikiProject Louisville, namely all the files and associated talk pages in Category:WikiProject Louisville and its subcategory Category:WikiProject Louisville articles. What's linked are the talk pages, so the list builder would have to pull all those, and create links not only for those but the associated pages. The bot will replace the info in Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Louisville/Watchall using the format you currently see. This list will be used for change patrol for the project. Thank you for your consideration. Stevie is the man! 20:28, 21 June 2014 (UTC)
- @Stevietheman: - so what you want is a bot to scan through the template's use, and return a list of article and talk pages related to it? If so, I should be able to get a manual task running quickly, but a auto one will take me a bit longer (if ever....). --Mdann52talk to me! 15:37, 23 June 2014 (UTC)
- Yes, that's technically what I'm looking for, although I would like all pages (and corresponding talk pages) (e.g., categories, templates, etc.) rather than just articles (and their talk pages) in the list. A manual run will be perfectly fine for now, although I would like an automatic run eventually (or even a way for me to manually run it). Note that the template is currently {{WikiProject United States}} with the parameter "|Louisville=yes" (I think this is case-insensitive). Thank you very much for your assistance! Stevie is the man! 16:17, 23 June 2014 (UTC)
- Sort of... the
{{WikiProject United States}}
template is coded to recognise|louisville=
as an alias for|Louisville=
, similarly|louisville-importance=
and|Louisville-importance=
, so it's only case-insensitive on first letter. But the way that it's written, funny things will happen if you specify both: part of the template is coded to ignore the small-l form if the capital-L form is also present, but part of the template will process both forms together. I'd say to stick with|Louisville=
and|Louisville-importance=
, don't use the other two. --Redrose64 (talk) 18:12, 23 June 2014 (UTC)- @Stevietheman: I have run AWB through the categories, and the result is this. While I doubt I will be able to run this automatically for a while, I can run it manually when I am about if it would help? --Mdann52talk to me! 08:52, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
- Sort of... the
- Yes, that's technically what I'm looking for, although I would like all pages (and corresponding talk pages) (e.g., categories, templates, etc.) rather than just articles (and their talk pages) in the list. A manual run will be perfectly fine for now, although I would like an automatic run eventually (or even a way for me to manually run it). Note that the template is currently {{WikiProject United States}} with the parameter "|Louisville=yes" (I think this is case-insensitive). Thank you very much for your assistance! Stevie is the man! 16:17, 23 June 2014 (UTC)
Notification of speedies
Mendaliv brought up a great point over at AN/I. I imagine if this was done with proper parameters we could ensure that every creator of a tagged article is notified, which would resolve this rather long-standing issue in the community. Of course, this may have been presented and denied before and I'm just unaware... but I figure, in the best interests of the community, the question should at least be formally asked. — Coffee // have a cup // beans // 11:47, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
Vosges and Moselle bot request
Vosges has just been moved to Vosges and Moselle to Moselle (department) to make way for primary topics (Vosges mountains and River Moselle). However, there are hundreds of villages in those departments now pointing to the primary topic instead of the department. We could make a big inroad into the changes if a bot could change all instances of ] ] to ] ] and similarly for Moselle. --Bermicourt (talk) 12:10, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
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