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Requested move

The request to rename this article to List of islands of China has been carried out. If the page title has consensus, be sure to close this discussion using {{subst:RM top|'''page moved'''.}} and {{subst:RM bottom}} and remove the {{Requested move/dated|…}} tag, or replace it with the {{subst:Requested move/end|…}} tag.

List of islands of the People's Republic of China → List of islands of China – 1) China is WP:COMMONNAME and WP:PRIMARYTOPIC per Talk:List of airports in China#Requested move. 2) See List of volcanoes in China, List of earthquakes in China, List of national parks of China, Geography of China, List of regions of China, etc. They just use China, not People's Republic of China. 3) Balance with List of islands of Taiwan, not List of islands of the Republic of China. Sawol (talk) 08:18, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

• Support per wp:commonname. China is being used for the PRC and Taiwan for the ROC in much of Misplaced Pages these days and I don't see the need to make an exception here.--Wikimedes (talk) 10:20, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

• Oppose: If you sue for using the shorthand ("China"), you are suing for, as a government of Chinese (Greater China) government, inclusion of Republic of *CHINA*-controlled; otherwise, omitting them explicitly endorses the view that Taiwan is not part of China, which is in violation of NPOV. I should remind all of the wise words of Nil Einne. It is high time to place a moratorium on all of the Correct name → Shorthand but imprecise names moves to stop wasting time on these unproductive, WP:POINTy discussions. GotR 16:19, 13 June 2013 (UTC)
  • Actually I'm not arguing for the inclusion of ROC-controlled islands. Though you're perfectly entitled to disagree, please don't claim that I am advocating something which I am not. I (and much of the world) refer to the People's Republic of China as "China" and the Republic of China as "Taiwan" and am not bothered or confused by the fact that both countries contain the word "China" in their formal names. (Actually, it's much easier to distinguish "China" from "Taiwan" than it is to distinguish "People's Republic of China" from "Republic of China", and the wording is much more efficient (i.e. shorter) as well.)--Wikimedes (talk) 21:11, 13 June 2013 (UTC)
    • "You" was used in a generic sense. If there is a stipulation that islands controlled by Taipei be included under the header "Republic of China" after the move, then I can refactor my opposition. Otherwise, it is simply part of a conspiracy-like cabal to push the "Taiwan is not and never will be part of China" POV. GotR 22:29, 13 June 2013 (UTC)
      • I'm not sure I understand. The islands controlled by Taipei are already in this list (at least the major ones) and have been for about 1.5 years. Removing them doesn't appear to be part of this move proposal. (I expect that the heading "Islands controlled by the Republic of China (aka Taiwan)" may change to "Islands controlled by Taiwan (aka the Republic of China)", and it might be nice to have a parallel "Claims but does not control" section in the List of islands of Taiwan article, but these are separate issues from the move proposal at hand.)--Wikimedes (talk) 07:05, 14 June 2013 (UTC)
• Support per nom, especially consistency with other articles and the complementary recent Taiwan island move. --BDD (talk) 04:31, 14 June 2013 (UTC)
• Support per consistency with China. The current name could confuse some readers since there is no article named "People's Republic of China" on wikipedia. mgeo talk 09:55, 14 June 2013 (UTC)

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