| Revision as of 08:28, 16 March 2013 editQuale (talk | contribs)Autopatrolled, Extended confirmed users24,876 edits →Harold Saunders: comment← Previous edit | Revision as of 08:34, 16 March 2013 edit undoOGBranniff (talk | contribs)506 editsNo edit summaryNext edit → | ||
| Line 21: | Line 21: | ||
| *'''Comment.''' Yes but under what policy or guideline is that accomplishment "notable" per Misplaced Pages? ] (]) 08:17, 16 March 2013 (UTC) | *'''Comment.''' Yes but under what policy or guideline is that accomplishment "notable" per Misplaced Pages? ] (]) 08:17, 16 March 2013 (UTC) | ||
| **'''Comment'''. Applying policy and guidelines requires judgment. I think my judgment about Misplaced Pages notability is better than yours. I have a few years more experience here than you do, which I think helps. But everyone has the opportunity to be heard, and other participants to this discussion and the closer can weigh our respective arguments and decide for themselves. ] (]) 08:28, 16 March 2013 (UTC) | **'''Comment'''. Applying policy and guidelines requires judgment. I think my judgment about Misplaced Pages notability is better than yours. I have a few years more experience here than you do, which I think helps. But everyone has the opportunity to be heard, and other participants to this discussion and the closer can weigh our respective arguments and decide for themselves. ] (]) 08:28, 16 March 2013 (UTC) | ||
| ***'''Comment.''' Well, that is true, I agree. Thank you. ] (]) 08:34, 16 March 2013 (UTC) | |||
Revision as of 08:34, 16 March 2013
Harold Saunders
- Harold Saunders (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View log · Stats)
- (Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)
Coming in twelfth place in the 1932 British Chess Championship ain't gonna cut it as far as notability goes. Non-notable. This piece is outta here. Thank you. OGBranniff (talk) 06:21, 9 March 2013 (UTC)
Keep. His best tournament results establish notability. Toccata quarta (talk) 14:24, 10 March 2013 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of United Kingdom-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 23:46, 10 March 2013 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 23:46, 10 March 2013 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
- Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Michaelzeng7 (talk) 00:17, 16 March 2013 (UTC)
Response. Under what guidelines or policy does coming in twelfth place in 1932 establish notability? OGBranniff (talk) 05:47, 16 March 2013 (UTC)
- Nobody is going to fall for that straw man. Maybe we should delete the article on Magnus Carlsen, since he was last at Corus 2007? Toccata quarta (talk) 05:51, 16 March 2013 (UTC)
- Magnus Carlsen is the subject of substantial coverage in reliable, third-party, editorially checked sources. Even in the last week there has been a slew of coverage of Carlsen because of the 2013 Candidates tournament in London. That is why he is notable. Now, if there were no coverage of Carlsen, and his crowning accomplishment was coming in last in 2007, then he'd be in the same deletable boat as the subject of this AFD. Thank you. OGBranniff (talk) 05:54, 16 March 2013 (UTC)
- Surely you appreciate that "results" is a plural form a noun? Toccata quarta (talk) 06:15, 16 March 2013 (UTC)
- Surely you appreciate that you have failed to cite neither any policy nor any guideline to support your claim that coming in 4th place at Scarborough "establish notability." Thank you. OGBranniff (talk) 06:30, 16 March 2013 (UTC)
- Surely you appreciate that "results" is a plural form a noun? Toccata quarta (talk) 06:15, 16 March 2013 (UTC)
- Magnus Carlsen is the subject of substantial coverage in reliable, third-party, editorially checked sources. Even in the last week there has been a slew of coverage of Carlsen because of the 2013 Candidates tournament in London. That is why he is notable. Now, if there were no coverage of Carlsen, and his crowning accomplishment was coming in last in 2007, then he'd be in the same deletable boat as the subject of this AFD. Thank you. OGBranniff (talk) 05:54, 16 March 2013 (UTC)
- Keep. Shared first in a tournament with Savielly Tartakower is an accomplishment. Certainly not the most important chess biography, but that is not a reason to delete. The article may be improved in the future if we don't delete it, but it's satisfactory now. We can't build a good encyclopedia by deleting all the minor articles. Quale (talk)
- Comment. Yes but under what policy or guideline is that accomplishment "notable" per Misplaced Pages? OGBranniff (talk) 08:17, 16 March 2013 (UTC)
- Comment. Applying policy and guidelines requires judgment. I think my judgment about Misplaced Pages notability is better than yours. I have a few years more experience here than you do, which I think helps. But everyone has the opportunity to be heard, and other participants to this discussion and the closer can weigh our respective arguments and decide for themselves. Quale (talk) 08:28, 16 March 2013 (UTC)
- Comment. Well, that is true, I agree. Thank you. OGBranniff (talk) 08:34, 16 March 2013 (UTC)
- Comment. Applying policy and guidelines requires judgment. I think my judgment about Misplaced Pages notability is better than yours. I have a few years more experience here than you do, which I think helps. But everyone has the opportunity to be heard, and other participants to this discussion and the closer can weigh our respective arguments and decide for themselves. Quale (talk) 08:28, 16 March 2013 (UTC)