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:::Except they have been 4 times already GD. And LM was asking about your reference to WP:DUCK--] <sup>]</sup> 19:02, 20 November 2010 (UTC) :::Except they have been 4 times already GD. And LM was asking about your reference to WP:DUCK--] <sup>]</sup> 19:02, 20 November 2010 (UTC)
::::Yes, they're a bit like some SPIs. ] ] 19:11, 20 November 2010 (UTC) ::::Yes, they're a bit like some SPIs. ] ] 19:11, 20 November 2010 (UTC)

::::Allow for a 5th time, but that's it (on the occasion that the community upholds sanctions again). ] (]) 19:15, 20 November 2010 (UTC)

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ArticleAdmin Cailil: Definition of Civility
StatusNew
Request date13:21, 20 November 2010 (UTC)
Requesting partyLevenBoy (talk)
Parties involvedLevenBoy (talk · contribs · logs), admin Cailil (talk · contribs · logs)

Request details

Where is the dispute?

WP:BISE and other British Isles related topics, see British Isles naming dispute

Who is involved?

What is the dispute?

On the Misplaced Pages, there exists a degree of tension surrounding various Irish-related issues which have found their way as far as Arbcom in the past. These have persisted for years. Cailil is an admin who has become involved in these and is lobbied by main protagonists.

Early this year he placed a civility sanction, and blocks, upon me whilst I was unable to question, respond or defend myself against it. At the same time, there was an outstanding false and prejudicial sockpuppet accusation being held against me which he referenced but which was found to be most certainly not related. See: ]. Note, he was requested to delay the accusation until the sockpuppet case was closed but did not. In my opinion, given the timing, the sanction/block was hurried through.

What would you like to change about this?

I now find myself in a position where I face Cailil as my "judge, jury and executioner" based on an accusation or finding made by him and under the threat of being blocked from editing the Misplaced Pages. I find this unfair and unethical and the sanction imprecise.

I am very happy to accept community based sanctions if I so deserve them but in this case I believe that the sanction should be reviewed.

How do you think we can help?

In the first place, I want a safe space with a third party as a witness, offering a fair and impartial view, where I can discuss my grievances and gain clarification without the incessant threats to my contribution here.

Mediator notes

Administrative notes

Discussion

  • I was not notified of this until another user posted to my page. LevenBoy was restricted per WP:GS/BI and the sanction imposed after a community discussion. This is not a content dispute. And I am not in a position to redefine WP:AGF, WP:NPA, WP:CIVIL and WP:TPG for LevenBoy. LB had previously raised this precise issue at WP:AN (in October) where the community reconfirmed the sanctions. And another user User:LemonMOnday did the same again on ANI already--Cailil 17:05, 20 November 2010 (UTC)
  • Forum shopping and/or game playing by a long term disruptive editor against an admin prepared to enforced civility. Should be speedily dismissed as its pretty clearly an attempt to create noise to cover up other activities (see current ANI posting. --Snowded 17:17, 20 November 2010 (UTC)
  • I suggest we let LB have his Sanctions reviewed by the community, when the current Duck case is resolved. Though it'll take up time, it's not gonna harm anybody. As for administrator Cailil? he's doing a great job, enforcing the sanctions. GoodDay (talk) 17:34, 20 November 2010 (UTC)
GD, please explain. LemonMonday Talk 18:26, 20 November 2010 (UTC)
Have the sanctions review, it's not gonna do any harm. GoodDay (talk) 18:31, 20 November 2010 (UTC)
Except they have been 4 times already GD. And LM was asking about your reference to WP:DUCK--Cailil 19:02, 20 November 2010 (UTC)
Yes, they're a bit like some SPIs. LemonMonday Talk 19:11, 20 November 2010 (UTC)
Allow for a 5th time, but that's it (on the occasion that the community upholds sanctions again). GoodDay (talk) 19:15, 20 November 2010 (UTC)
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