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| ::Yes, I understand the theoretical case you're making. But be honest with me: have you used other named accounts to edit Misplaced Pages in the past? ''']''' <sup>]</sup> 00:13, 11 June 2010 (UTC) | ::Yes, I understand the theoretical case you're making. But be honest with me: have you used other named accounts to edit Misplaced Pages in the past? ''']''' <sup>]</sup> 00:13, 11 June 2010 (UTC) | ||
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| ::::I don't recall seeing that admission. That might have avoided this whole situation. Would you consider disclosing the identity of your previous account to a functionary, who can then verify that there are no problems with it being banned or blocked or something? A trusted current or former arb, or a checkuser or other person who is identified to the Foundation to handle private information responsibly. <span style="font-family:Courier New;font-size:3">]</span><sup>]</sup> 01:16, 11 June 2010 (UTC) | |||
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At the risk of breaking Godwin's Law...
... to follow up on your Hitler analogy here: not quite. It's more like saying that if you encounter another failed artist who rode to power on a wave of nationalist and racialist resentment, and he's demanding the Sudetenland, you might in the back of your mind think twice about appeasing him. It may be that the similarities between him and Hitler are just a coincidence, that this second dictator really does want peace in our time, and that you've failed to assume good faith. But it's not unreasonable to notice a certain pattern, and arguably not unreasonable to act on it. MastCell 23:26, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
- Uhm, sure, except for it not being at all like that. If I had violated some rules of editing, or standards of conduct, or been anything other than polite, respectful, and trying to discuss toward a NPOV compromise, then perhaps your extension of the analogy would apply. If you read the base rate fallacy page that I linked to that comment, you'll see what I mean in that noticing a particular pattern in the guilty does not say anything about how often that pattern means people ARE guilty. This is basic logic (but unfortunately a named fallacy because the mental error is so commonly made). I encourage you to not be one of the people making this error. WavePart (talk) 05:51, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
- Yes, I understand the theoretical case you're making. But be honest with me: have you used other named accounts to edit Misplaced Pages in the past? MastCell 00:13, 11 June 2010 (UTC)
- I have already said many times I am a clean start user. WavePart (talk) 00:47, 11 June 2010 (UTC)
- I don't recall seeing that admission. That might have avoided this whole situation. Would you consider disclosing the identity of your previous account to a functionary, who can then verify that there are no problems with it being banned or blocked or something? A trusted current or former arb, or a checkuser or other person who is identified to the Foundation to handle private information responsibly. The Wordsmith 01:16, 11 June 2010 (UTC)
- I have already said many times I am a clean start user. WavePart (talk) 00:47, 11 June 2010 (UTC)
- Yes, I understand the theoretical case you're making. But be honest with me: have you used other named accounts to edit Misplaced Pages in the past? MastCell 00:13, 11 June 2010 (UTC)