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	In fact the Australian Skeptics appear to disown Ian Plimer as their Web site shows him as a nominee for their 2009 Bent Spoon award for pseudo-science.] (]) 17:56, 13 December 2009 (UTC)		In fact the Australian Skeptics appear to disown Ian Plimer as their Web site shows him as a nominee for their 2009 Bent Spoon award for pseudo-science.] (]) 17:56, 13 December 2009 (UTC)

			I think the comment questioning Plimer's membership of Australian Skeptics should be rewritten or removed. It is not correct to say that this group does not have members as such. I checked the Australian Skeptics website and while the requirement for joining is low (subscription to their magazine as correctly noted above)this is listed under the title "How to Join" so this is an advertised mechanism for membership. --] (]) 07:22, 16 December 2009 (UTC)

			I also followed up on the assertion that the Australian Skeptics appear to disown Pilmer and I think this is not supported via the link provided. Reading through I found three discrete nominations for Plimer, one of which was from a nominator who also nominated the Australian Skeptics "for their tacit defence of Ian Plimer’s rather irrational anti-global warming book." Nominations are just via an email from anyone in the community, as such Tim Flannery and Nicole Kidman also received 2009 Bent Spoon nominations. So I think that the statement that he received a nomination is misleading without this context. It should either be removed or put in the context that the nomination does not necessarily support the majority of the group's members. --] (]) 07:22, 16 December 2009 (UTC)


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Plimerite & Aust'n Humanist of 1995

I think it is worth noting Plimer's work as a skeptic fighting the creationists earlier, and also noting that :

- He has the mineral Plimerite - ZnFe4(PO4)3(OH)3 orthorhombic - named after him.
- Plimer was named ‘Australian Humanist of the Year’ in 1995.
- was president of the Australian Geoscience Council
- Plimer is the Patron of Lifeline (Broken Hill) & Patron of the Broken Hill Geocentre.
- Plimer is a regular communicator / populariser of science esp. geology and skepticism to the public via radio, print & TV.

Source : Page 4 ("About the Author") "Heaven & Earth", Connor Court, 2009. StevoR 124.182.226.16 (talk)

Australian Skeptics

The article mentions Ian Plimer is a member of "Australia Skeptics". The Australian Skeptics don't have members as such. They run events and provide outlets for people to investigate paranormal and pseudo-science. You can subscribe to their magazine but you don't actually join anything.

In fact the Australian Skeptics appear to disown Ian Plimer as their Web site shows him as a nominee for their 2009 Bent Spoon award for pseudo-science.Aussiejohn (talk) 17:56, 13 December 2009 (UTC)

I think the comment questioning Plimer's membership of Australian Skeptics should be rewritten or removed. It is not correct to say that this group does not have members as such. I checked the Australian Skeptics website and while the requirement for joining is low (subscription to their magazine as correctly noted above)this is listed under the title "How to Join" so this is an advertised mechanism for membership. --Catherine111 (talk) 07:22, 16 December 2009 (UTC)

I also followed up on the assertion that the Australian Skeptics appear to disown Pilmer and I think this is not supported via the link provided. Reading through the list of nominations for the 2009 Bent Spoon I found three discrete nominations for Plimer, one of which was from a nominator who also nominated the Australian Skeptics "for their tacit defence of Ian Plimer’s rather irrational anti-global warming book." Nominations are just via an email from anyone in the community, as such Tim Flannery and Nicole Kidman also received 2009 Bent Spoon nominations. So I think that the statement that he received a nomination is misleading without this context. It should either be removed or put in the context that the nomination does not necessarily support the majority of the group's members. --Catherine111 (talk) 07:22, 16 December 2009 (UTC)

overkill to name Monbiot's book?

I hd thought it reasonable to identify Monbiot by one of his books as opposed to just as being a writer for the Guardian. This was reverted as "overkill" although it is well-sourced, indeed. Is it overkill to identify who the protagonists are in a section? Collect (talk) 15:57, 15 December 2009 (UTC)

Isn't Monbiot wikilinked for that sort of data? If not, I'll fix. ► RATEL ◄ 05:39, 16 December 2009 (UTC)

Plimer called a fraud

...by well known science blogger. Not admissible under BLP rules, but links to some admissible articles. ► RATEL ◄ 05:39, 16 December 2009 (UTC)

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