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==RfC: Pascal Olivier and Negroni Cocktail== ==RfC: Pascal Olivier and Negroni Cocktail==

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Is there any source before even 5 years ago that links Pascal Olivier Count de Negroni to the Negroni cocktail? All online sources with Pascal Negroni are very recent (2008-09), and I believe may stem from spamming by an editor claiming that his ancestor originated the drink. The refs given here are only a couple months old. While the origins of the drink are definitely cloudy, a quick search shows mention of the Camillo Negroni story at least as far back as 1999 on the internet. http://groups.google.com/group/it.hobby.cucina/browse_thread/thread/44dbfdcdf2a23688/91b067cb7b3de999?hl=en&q=%22camillo+negroni%22#91b067cb7b3de999 I'm just concerned that through ubiquitous spamming of the internet, people are rewriting history. Is there any source before even 5 years ago that links Pascal Olivier Count de Negroni to the Negroni cocktail? All online sources with Pascal Negroni are very recent (2008-09), and I believe may stem from spamming by an editor claiming that his ancestor originated the drink. The refs given here are only a couple months old. While the origins of the drink are definitely cloudy, a quick search shows mention of the Camillo Negroni story at least as far back as 1999 on the internet. http://groups.google.com/group/it.hobby.cucina/browse_thread/thread/44dbfdcdf2a23688/91b067cb7b3de999?hl=en&q=%22camillo+negroni%22#91b067cb7b3de999 I'm just concerned that through ubiquitous spamming of the internet, people are rewriting history.



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Shouldn't the list of famous Negronis be on a different page? It doesn't seem to have anything to do with the drink. AdjectiveAnimal (talk) 14:55, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

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I rather doubt that a Negroni with orange juice was invented only two years ago. Campari and orange is so known and popular that people have doubtless been combining the two drinks for generations. --Atemperman (talk) 22:40, 4 August 2009 (UTC

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Is there any source before even 5 years ago that links Pascal Olivier Count de Negroni to the Negroni cocktail? All online sources with Pascal Negroni are very recent (2008-09), and I believe may stem from spamming by an editor claiming that his ancestor originated the drink. The refs given here are only a couple months old. While the origins of the drink are definitely cloudy, a quick search shows mention of the Camillo Negroni story at least as far back as 1999 on the internet. http://groups.google.com/group/it.hobby.cucina/browse_thread/thread/44dbfdcdf2a23688/91b067cb7b3de999?hl=en&q=%22camillo+negroni%22#91b067cb7b3de999 I'm just concerned that through ubiquitous spamming of the internet, people are rewriting history.

Is there any reference to Pascal and the cocktail drink even older than 3 years? - Chromatikoma (talk) 17:24, 5 November 2009 (UTC)

Noel Negroni is a direct descendant of the inventor of the Negroni drink, period. If you are not a “Negroni” you have no dog in this discussion and "you are the spammer"! http://chanticleersociety.org/forums/t/820.aspx

http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~prwgw/negroni_01.htm —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.162.141.54 (talk) 15:30, 14 December 2009 (UTC)

Reply Noel Negroni replied on 4 Nov 2009 11:47 AM

Let’s see if we have this right. We have a grandson of a poet who is not a Negroni so no title of Count for grandpa “Walter Savage Landor”. We don’t know who his father is or his mother born in 1868 no town, city or country, in 1934 he died somewhere out there and again no town, city or country. He goes and spends a good deal of his time as a drugstore cowboy and a gambler to boot………..LOL! This story is way too out there don’t you think?? Wow, “whoever came up with this story has had way too many Negron’s way too early in the morning”.

I would have to say that at the moment Count Camillo has “no braches on his Negroni tree to hang on too let alone our tree”.
David, I hope you have a sense of humor about this “story” as I most certainly do. Usually when a story is too good to be true, what can I say except…….LOL.
On a more serious note it was only as of two weeks ago that we where able to get our story of the Negroni drink on Misplaced Pages and make it stick. We had to go directly to the Misplaced Pages people as every time that I posted our family history regarding the drink Negroni somebody would keep bringing it down on us. “I wonder why”?? It was only after my brother presented our case, that we where able to convince the Misplaced Pages people to allow us to post our story regarding the drink Negroni. We are also “Officers and Gentleman” and we asked them not to delete the version of the story that that you are quoting above. I hope both stories are true and that as some point in time maybe “our” General Pascal Olivier Count de Negroni and Camillo Negroni got together on some hot summer night and raised a glass, “to life and greatness of the Negroni family world wide.


http://en.wikipedia.org/Pascal_Olivier_Count_de_Negroni


http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~prwgw/negroni_01.htm

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