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:I was trying to fix everything that you broke as quickly as possible, hence the rollback (which I'll admit is outside of the norm). There are ''proper'' ways of tagging pages as a ''user's'' second RfA; changing the name of the RfA isn't one of them. ] <span style="color: #999;">// ] // ] //</span> 21:46, 18 February 2009 (UTC) :I was trying to fix everything that you broke as quickly as possible, hence the rollback (which I'll admit is outside of the norm). There are ''proper'' ways of tagging pages as a ''user's'' second RfA; changing the name of the RfA isn't one of them. ] <span style="color: #999;">// ] // ] //</span> 21:46, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
::''There are ''proper'' ways of tagging pages as a ''user's'' second RfA'' — What are these proper ways? :) — <small><b><span style="border:1px solid #20406F;padding:1px 3px;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif;">]</span></b></small> <span style="color: #999;">//</span>&nbsp;] 21:53, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

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 As a dedicated Wikimedian, I don't limit myself to just one project or just one language. user page // talk page adminopiningmatrixfunawards

This is EVula's talk page, which shouldn't be a surprise if you clicked the link...

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User Name

I'm just updating an old laptop (that was last online 467 days ago apparently) and it occured to me that EVULA is a perfect acronym for End Vindictive user licence agreements. Random comment of the day for ya :) Pedro :  Chat  21:53, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

Hah, that's great. There was an acronym generator somewhere online back in the day that came up with a fantastic definition for my username, and now I can't remember what it was (or where the program is). Blast. EVula // talk // // 06:35, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

Sock votes

Just wondering what your opinion was (since I was going to safest route) - in terms of voting, any sock is removed outright? Would it be sufficient to leave a notice in the edit summary? If it is (somehow) proven that they weren't a sock (if that is even possible) does the vote go back in? Ottava Rima (talk) 00:18, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

RfA is open to any member of the community in good standing -> blocked users are not in good standing -> blocked socks of blocked users are not allowed to participate in RfAs.
If it was a legitimate sock, there wouldn't be an issue. And, to be honest, it's a bit of a toss-up between indenting and removing outright; I favor the latter, as I think eliminating all evidence of a sock's presence goes a long way towards taking the fun out of socking (consider it an alternate interpretation of WP:DFTT).
Hypothetically speaking, yes, if User:Kristen Eriksen were to be unblocked due to faulty sockpuppet evidence, her !vote should be restored. I would be more than happy to reverse my own edit in such a situation. EVula // talk // // 00:29, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
Okay, thank you. Multiple opinions are always useful in some of the more obscure situations. Ottava Rima (talk) 00:35, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

Your answer to my sortable wikitables question at WP:VPT

Hi EVula, due to my inexperience with code and wikitables, I was hoping you could expound on the answer you provided at WP:VPT on the question of centreing columns in sortable wikitables. From what I could gather, your suggestion (.wikitable-center3 tbody tr td+td+td) and Blue-Haired Lawyer's addition (.col3-center) seem as though they may be a better option; needing style="text-align: center"| for each cell is cumbersome and will clutter the contents of the table more than I expected. Could you provide an example of how this would work and where the code would be used; perhaps (if it's easier for you) to the sortable wikitable already in place at List of female tennis players? Thank you very much, Maedin\ 10:28, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

Well, I'd need to test it out in my userspace first, since I'd have to tweak my monobook files just to see if it'll work. I'll try to whip something up at some point today. EVula // talk // // 17:24, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

Template:User HD-DVD

I notice that you previously deleted this template under CSD:T1. I fail to see how it is divisive or inflammatory, and in any case CSD:T1 is (effectively) defunct now. I invite you to restore the template; otherwise I will list at DRV. Stifle (talk) 09:24, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

DRV it is, then. T1 being defunct now, almost two years since its deletion, makes very little difference; it was a very pointy userbox that doesn't serve any purpose but to say "fuck you." There's no way in hell that I'm undeleting it. EVula // talk // // 16:49, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
*looks* Er...what does that say? GlassCobra 17:10, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
AACS encryption key controversy. EVula // talk // // 17:15, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
OK, listed. Stifle (talk) 16:21, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
For my own reference: Misplaced Pages:Deletion review/Log/2009 January 30#User HD-DVD. EVula // talk // // 05:11, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

Stewart Elections

Good luck with the stewart elections. I'm not eligible to vote (I don't have 600 edits prior to November 1 '08) but I can guarantee you would have my support if I were. Master&Expert (Talk) 08:17, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. At this point, I don't have much faith in it passing (a couple of arguments I think are valid, even though there are some damn good stewards that aren't multi-lingual), but at least I'll have some sort of road map for what to focus on in the coming year. EVula // talk // // 16:10, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

Another spiritual vote of support towards your steward candidacy. In this case, I haven't edited enough in the last...gosh, six months? to qualify. Haven't been editing too heavily since I started my new job. Anyways, I'm all for it - and remember, even if you think it's a long shot, anything's better than a snowball's chance in hell. :) Coreycubed (talk) 22:00, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

Heh, there are at least a half-dozen people who have voted that aren't eligible to do so, so you're in good company. ;) EVula // talk // // 22:11, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

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EVula was inducted into The Hall of The Greats

On February 1, 2009, User:EVula was inducted into

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This portrait of Martin Scorsese was dedicated in his honor.
David Shankbone.

The inscription is in the description (I recently cropped and de-saturated the image, so if it appears warped for a bit, that's why). --David Shankbone 03:37, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

Wow, an induction with a picture of Scorsese? Screw the steward elections, at least I've got this. :D EVula // talk // // 04:50, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

Recording updated audio of Misplaced Pages:Be Bold

I had begun recording an updated spoken version of the Be bold article because the last audio recording of the article reflects a version now two years old. I had begun recording but then noticed that a number of things could have been worded better. I edited the article for this reason. I noticed that you've made a number of changes to the article before. Do you have any ideas for the article before I attempt to record it? I also posted this on the article's talk page. Thanks, PicklePower (talk) 05:07, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

I don't have much of an opinion on it either way. *shrug* EVula // talk // // 05:30, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

Vandalism on Wikispecies

Hi, I'm leaving this message on the talkpage of several of the Wikispecies admins. User:Cheesecracker has spent an hour and a half running riot through Wikispecies. I couldn't find an admin urgently so requested help from the Stewards. A two hour block has been placed while cleanup occurs. Can an indefinite block please be used? Beeswaxcandle (talk) 08:15, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

Looks like the always-awesome Pathoschild got to it. Good work in reporting it. EVula // talk // // 18:09, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

Happy First Edit Day!

Happy First Edit Day, EVula, from the Misplaced Pages Birthday Committee! Have a great day!

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Hard to believe it's been three years... EVula // talk // // 18:09, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

User

give me a while to think about a user name DCsniper207 (talk) 19:32, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

No rush; just fill out a new request when you know what you want. In the meantime, I've marked the old request with {{notdone}}, so that it doesn't show as open to other 'crats (and can be archived). EVula // talk // // 19:40, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
I don't understand. The user requested his initially desired change once already, and it was approved and supposedly done here:. He's only back because he thinks that someone changed it back on him:.--2008Olympian 19:42, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

well i g2g right now to pick a couple things up and it could take a while ill submit a new one around maybe 4 or 6 o clock (takes forever to get to portland)--DCsniper207 (talk) 19:43, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

Change it to Brawl_09 DCsniper207 (talk) 23:51, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

Can you help him with his originally accepted request? He's asking me why it didn't take.--2008Olympian 04:42, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

I'm confused about what is going on, honestly. DCsniper, can you not log into your AcesUpMaSleeve account? EVula // talk // // 05:05, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
The change did work. He re-registered under the same name, as you can see from this link. I have blocked the name indefinitely. Andre (talk) 06:20, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
Thanks, Andre. EVula // talk // // 07:14, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

Your election page

See Misplaced Pages:Arbitration Committee/CheckUser and Oversight elections/February 2009RlevseTalk01:44, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

Statement written. Thanks. EVula // talk // // 07:15, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
Looks like I missed the opportunity to throw my hat in the ring for oversight this time round then. Unfortunate :( Pedro :  Chat  14:51, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
This definitely seems the sort of thing that will roll back around; for what it's worth, if I had any pull to get you on the docket, ticket, ledger, or whatever the hell it is, I would. EVula // talk // // 18:15, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
It's purely a timezone thing. I'm not fussed about CU or whatever, but I'm one of the few active admins at 07:00 - 11:00 UTC - and having had to request oversight before between those times I understand the issues. Hey-ho - when they hext need some names I guess. Pedro :  Chat  20:58, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
My editing times are crazy wacky these days (the other night, I stopped work at 6:30am CST). I'm hoping that I can cut the average delay between OS reporting and resolving. EVula // talk // // 21:06, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
Got my vote for that! Not convinced about your Steward request though - I've not commented but hats / languages seem pretty major issues for a lot of folks - and me too. Sorry :( Pedro :  Chat  21:29, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
No hard feelings; I feel both are valid arguments... though I think the language issue isn't as big a deal as everyone makes it out to be, given the areas I've stated that I'd like to work in (speedy deletion and SUL issues). As for too many hats... *shrug* Not much I can do about that except give up the bits on several projects where I still need/use them at. C'est la vie. EVula // talk // // 21:40, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

Syropping

You might have gotten the issue confused just a bit, replied back on the noticeboard. Secret 21:46, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

Replying there. Don't worry, I know that something like that is going to generate further discussion, so I'm definitely watching it like a hawk. EVula // talk // // 21:53, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
I stopped the discussion. Secret has RTV'ed (ugh - is that right!). No more value was forthcoming. Pedro :  Chat  22:46, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
I'm not sure he actually RTV for while I see now it is bolded on the RTV page: "The "right to vanish" is not a "right to a fresh start" under a new identity," Secret while invoking the right to vanish says he will come back as hidden account as a fresh start. It has been made clear to me that we can change usernames, but must keep our edits, blocks, etc. still attached to our new name and that starting over as a new account is not okay. Sincerely, --A Nobody 22:51, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

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Oh man, I'd love to, but I can't; too short notice, yes, but I've also got plans this weekend. Sorry. :( EVula // talk // // 17:42, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

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Neil Patrick Harris - what appears to be persistent vandalism

I noticed that you recently placed a block on User talk:216.161.94.189 for vandalism to Neil Patrick Harris. The user has done the same thing again with this edit and I've just reverted it. I thought that you might want to know in case you want to block him again. James500 (talk) 11:06, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

I blocked last time because it was immediately after the vandalism, so I was sure I'd be hitting the vandal; right now, it's been a bit too long after the edit, so I don't feel as comfortable. Next time... EVula // talk // // 16:31, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

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Odd

Um, why? . DuncanHill (talk) 06:26, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

...I have no idea. I think I hit the wrong link on my watchlist? Dunno. Thanks for the heads up. :\ EVula // talk // // 06:30, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
I think I've done that before! DuncanHill (talk) 06:32, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
I'm pretty sure it's from the rollback links now being on the watchlist; I'm honestly surprised I hadn't done it already. :) I wonder if they can be turned off via a monobook tweak... *shrug* EVula // talk // // 06:36, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
There was a thread about turning them off, may have been on AN, or ANI, or the Help Desk, or Village Pump, or quite possibly somewhere else entirely! not a lot of help, sorry! DuncanHill (talk) 06:40, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
No worries; I'm hoping that I'll just be more cognizant about it in the future. If it happens again, I'll start looking into a better solution. EVula // talk // // 06:41, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

Protection

Hello EVula, could you please protect the redirect page User:Hukukcu. Thank you. -- Hukukçu (talk) 22:24, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

 Done EVula // talk // // 22:47, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

Combine OverWiki

Hello there, remember me? Of course you do. ;-) Anyway, I have a request. Since MattyDienhoff and I are the only active admins and that we heavily contribute (I personally have the insane editcount of 16,215, acquired in a few months, created many templates and cats, uploaded tons of pics, etc.), I request that we get nominated bureaucrats. We'd remove most of the inactive admins from the list (like the ones who last edited in 2007) and maybe we'd nominate 1 or 2. Thanks for your answer, I hope it will be positive! Cheers Klow (talk) 02:38, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

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Congrats

Excellent. :) PeterSymonds (talk) 11:28, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

Pretty surprised I made it, considering how incredibly tight it was. I'll try not to delete the Main Page er, promote Willy on Wheels er... wait, what's the usual joke for abusing the tools when it comes to Oversight? EVula // talk // // 17:34, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
Congratulations, EVula! :) Versus22 talk 17:35, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
Now it's time to convince people that you really did only go through one RfB. :D Congratulations on receiving the Oversight tool, and thanks for running in the first CU-OV election. Acalamari 17:57, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
Hahaha, if anyone had told me then that I'd have the flag in less than a year's time, I would have told them they were full of it. :) EVula // talk // // 17:58, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

E-mail

Hello. I need to e-mail you concerning this discussion, lots of new user's RFA's. Whether or not what I have is a minor issue is another thing, but I think you may want to see this. Thanks. America69 (talk) 18:36, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

Fire away. EVula // talk // // 18:41, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
Great, I will send it very soon. Thanks. America69 (talk) 19:42, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

Zombie Survival Guide

Damn, you're just quicker than me at reverting that vandalism! Keep up the good work! -Noosentaal 22:08, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

The ZSG article was my first (and pretty much only) major encyclopedic contribution to Misplaced Pages. I protect it like a friggin' hawk, since it generates so much vandalism. :) (though usually it's just people removing the various "fictional" tags from the article) EVula // talk // // 22:11, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

Pandemic (South Park)

Hi. Can you ask the user formerly known as The Haunted Angel to offer his/her opinion on the conflict described here? Thanks. Nightscream (talk) 00:44, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

To be fair, if he (as a new user) suddenly happened upon that discussion, he'd likely out himself, which would void the entire purpose of the RTV. :) I believe he has my talk page watchlisted, however, so I'll leave it to him to involve himself or not. EVula // talk // // 03:34, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

Oversight

Congrats on getting elected to oversight! I know you'll do a good job. :) Master&Expert (Talk) 01:24, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. :) I've played around with the new button a little bit, just to get the hang of it before testing it out on a real issue. EVula // talk // // 03:35, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
Is it easy to use? Master&Expert (Talk) 01:59, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
Pretty much; I just say "hey, that should disappear" and voila, it does. :) EVula // talk // // 06:50, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

hi

Please revert the closure on http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/Syjytg. I have read http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:NOTNOW and I wish for the RfA to run for the full time. Syjytg (talk) 04:26, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

No, I don't believe that anything productive will come from reopening the RfA. You reference Mythdon's RfA, but that one was closed prematurely by a bureaucrat as well. If you can explain to me why you want it to run a full week, I'll consider reopening it, but until then, it remains closed.
Please see Misplaced Pages:Bureaucrats' noticeboard#Misplaced Pages:Requests for adminship/Syjytg for discussion about the situation. EVula // talk // // 06:34, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

Sorry, didn't see your reply on your talk page. Syjytg (talk) 06:49, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

Well, I only posted it about twenty minutes ago, so don't feel bad about not seeing it. ;) EVula // talk // // 06:51, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

'In general, assuming a good faith nomination or self-nomination, if a candidate wishes the RfA to run for the full time then this is acceptable.' I was referring to this right. On why I want it to run it the full-term. Because opening it longer means more people can write, so I can better prepare for future RFAs. Syjytg (talk) 06:54, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

That isn't a guaranteed right; it's a generalization of what typically happens.
As for your reason... I'm sorry, but I'm definitely not going to reopen the RfA. You're confusing the RfA process with the editor review process. While a good RfA should give the candidate some constructive criticism for where they should focus their attention for future self-improvement (even for RfAs that pass), this facet of the process is secondary to the entire point of RfA: vetting and discussing potential administrators. It's abundantly clear that the RfA will not pass (perhaps a better page to reference is WP:SNOW), and all of the feedback you were receiving was along the same lines; first, it was that it was far too early for you to be running and RfA, and then it became (when you refused to delist the RfA) that your stubbornness to accept the community's general wishes was a liability. Reopening it will not garner you any additional insight into where you need to focus your attention.
Honestly, I think you should just put the entire RfA situation behind you and concentrate on improving the encyclopedia; to continue to insist that the RfA run will do you far more harm at future RfAs than I think you realize. EVula // talk // // 07:02, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

I have signed up for http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Admin_coaching/Requests_for_Coaching. Do I need to update my edit count reguarly over there? Syjytg (talk) 07:20, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

I think admin coaching is fairly premature, but to answer your question, no, you don't need to update your edit count there. EVula // talk // // 07:21, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

Can you please delete http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/Syjytg page? Syjytg (talk) 10:32, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

I'm of the belief that such things should stand on their own and not brushed under the rug. Future RfAs won't be judged too harshly by your first one; it's just a newbie mistake. Seriously, the only one obsessing about it is you; just put it behind you and concentrate on the future. Don't worry. :) EVula // talk // // 17:28, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

Re: Try again

Cool, thanks. That was rather confusing, glad it's fixed. –Juliancolton 21:44, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

Move

Mind explaining the point in this? It's the second one for this user. Also, I have fixed the things that were broken, but you moved it back again. Also, this use of rollback is highly inappropriate. — Aitias // discussion 21:44, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

I was watching that whole thing unfold. Looks like it was pretty frustrating, but I think it got sorted out now. Useight (talk) 21:45, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
Also, your talkpage has a bunch of text overlapping, but I think I can fix it. Useight (talk) 21:46, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
Mine? Where? EVula // talk // // 21:46, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
Yeah, everything after the SignPost is piled on top of each other. Mine talkpage was doing the same thing to me. Useight (talk) 21:47, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
Hmm, looks fine to me, but if you know how to fix it, by all means, work your magic. :) EVula // talk // // 21:48, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
Okay, now it looks good to me, too. I wonder if it is only a problem for those using IE6. Useight (talk) 21:51, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
Groovy, thanks. Probably; IE6 is horrible when it comes to rendering CSS. EVula // talk // // 21:52, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
I was trying to fix everything that you broke as quickly as possible, hence the rollback (which I'll admit is outside of the norm). There are proper ways of tagging pages as a user's second RfA; changing the name of the RfA isn't one of them. EVula // talk // // 21:46, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
There are proper ways of tagging pages as a user's second RfA — What are these proper ways? :) — Aitias // discussion 21:53, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
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