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| :Futhermore the intent here is the infer, that as the trials were ] the accused must in fact have been innocent. | :Futhermore the intent here is the infer, that as the trials were ] the accused must in fact have been innocent. | ||
| :None of these assuptions have any support in the sources. -- ] 13:43, 10 June 2007 (UTC) | :None of these assuptions have any support in the sources. -- ] 13:43, 10 June 2007 (UTC) | ||
| Petri, I asked what is wrong with '''title''' (]), I did not question if it is show trial, if they were actualy guilty, if estonia was occupied then trial took place or anything else unrelated. Also that ''The word "holocaust" was unknown in 1961'' is not an argument as it was also not known in 1939-1945 but we still have article ].--] 13:58, 10 June 2007 (UTC) | |||
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I would like to hear what is wrong with title Holocaust trials in Soviet Estonia, 1961. Please no blanket statements about holocaust denial. Trial was took place in Soviet Estonia and it was about Holocaust. "War Crimes" can include many other things and do not even need to be connected to WW II.--Staberinde 13:09, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
- The crimes were not commited in "Soviet occupied Estonia"
- The word "holocaust" was unknown in 1961
- the word "war crimes" is used for most, if not all related trials.
- Now for the "blanket statement":
- The attempt to change the name is yet another example of Estonian Holocaust denial. The emphasis in on the word "Soviet" as if to point out that:
- Soviets had no authority to try the "claimed" war criminals
- The trials had no international recognition
- They were most likely show trials
- Futhermore the intent here is the infer, that as the trials were null and void the accused must in fact have been innocent.
- None of these assuptions have any support in the sources. -- Petri Krohn 13:43, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
Petri, I asked what is wrong with title (Holocaust trials in Soviet Estonia, 1961), I did not question if it is show trial, if they were actualy guilty, if estonia was occupied then trial took place or anything else unrelated. Also that The word "holocaust" was unknown in 1961 is not an argument as it was also not known in 1939-1945 but we still have article The Holocaust.--Staberinde 13:58, 10 June 2007 (UTC)