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Sourcing and notability

@AntiRaceshifitng: anyone added to the list of Pretendians needs to

• 1. Be notable enough to have their own Misplaced Pages bio so their name is blue-linked, and
• 2. have multiple WP:RS citations sourcing the fact that they have been called pretendians in multiple, reliable, third-party sources. If this is not done, the article may be threatened with deletion. WP policy must be followed here; no exceptions. Thanks. - CorbieVreccan ☼ 00:05, 9 July 2021 (UTC)

@AntiRaceshifitng: There needs to be much more context in this article. For example, there has been much discussion of the Keeler list, and not all positive. Because it's an unpublished document circulated primary in social media, much of the discussion cannot be cited in Misplaced Pages. Better would be a good discussion of the support and critiques with appropriate references. In general this article needs much work to ensure it's not simply a "gotcha" list of people with questionable claims, but a solid, well-researched balanced article on the term "Pretendian". I'm going to add some flags to this article, but as above there are issues with sources and I am deeply uncomfortable with the way this article reads and is structured as support the comments above. --Smallison (talk) 16:08, 12 July 2021 (UTC)

@Smallison: Please do not ping me for edits or contributions I have not made. I incorrectly added a recently accused person (which was removed) to the Academic section of Notable Examples who lacks a wikipedia page and can not be included per point 1. from CorbieVreccan.

@AntiRaceshifitng: Apologies for that. I will shift some of my criticisms of the article to a new general section.

No information on the source of the term Pretendian

There is no information on this page about the rise of the term Pretendian or reason for the use of this term. This needs to be rectified given the title for the page. It concerns me that the act of taking on an Indigenous identity might not be new, but the term itself is a new phenomenon and there's nothing here about it or race shifting as a term. --Smallison (talk) 16:25, 12 July 2021 (UTC).

Keeler Pretendian list

There has been much discussion of the Keeler list on social media and not all positive. Because it's an unpublished document circulated primary in social media, much of the discussion cannot be cited in Misplaced Pages. It needs to be balanced as a particular action taken by Keeler with a good discussion of the support and critiques with appropriate references.

It is published and cited in the references as cite 12. The Alleged Pretendians List is at the bottom to download and view.  oncamera  _{(talk page)} 17:31, 12 July 2021 (UTC)

My main point was that there wasn't any context around it and there have been critiques, not about accessibility of the document as a google spreadsheet. Typically such a document would not meet reliable source criteria on Misplaced Pages.--Smallison (talk) 20:48, 12 July 2021 (UTC)

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