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== ] "suspect" ==
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References to use. ]&nbsp;(]&nbsp;&#124;&nbsp;]) <sup>(])</sup> 22:14, 18 February 2015 (UTC)

:What specific content are you proposing to add from these? Or are you just aggregating some sources for other editors to use in developing proposals? ] (]) 18:22, 20 February 2015 (UTC)

::I'm just listing references that could potentially be used here. I find that over time, references can be harder to find if one does not know what to look for. It's easier to list them as they appear. I'm doing the same thing with ]; see ]. ]&nbsp;(]&nbsp;&#124;&nbsp;]) <sup>(])</sup> 18:26, 20 February 2015 (UTC)

:::In that case, do you mind if I add some to the list, starting with these (added below)? ] (]) 19:56, 20 February 2015 (UTC)

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::hmm, i thought WMD and theblaze were both blacklisted... -- ] 03:55, 30 June 2015 (UTC)


The ] for this film was very positive. That should not be surprising to anyone who has read the Misplaced Pages ] article which clearly explains what Cinemascore does and what their score means. Cinemascore survey opening weekend audiences, a self selected group of people most likely to enjoy the film. It is not any kind of objective evaluation of the quality of the film, it is a poll to see if the film met audience '''expectations'''. If in doubt you can read the ] article again. If editors feel it is absolutely necessary they could briefly explain what Cinemascore means again here in this article to give readers some context.
== Unreliable Sources for CinemaScore ==


The ] article also explains "The distributor of a film that opens in fewer screens can optionally contract with CinemaScore for a private survey, whose result would be disclosed only to the client." It is already known that Cinemascore does surveys that are not necessarily disclosed to the general public.
The sources being referenced for this rating by Cinemascore don't meet Misplaced Pages's reliability and verifiability standards. For the same reasoning we don't include sources that link back to Misplaced Pages, these sources are even worse because they don't link to anything at all. Furthermore, from own website: ''"If you can't find your movie, it was not polled by CinemaScore."'' The tags should not be removed until reliable and verifiable sources can substantiate the claim or the claim is removed, as per Misplaced Pages policy.] (]) 07:11, 5 March 2018 (UTC)
Unfortunately it seem as if people have not read the ] article, and instead of exercising some editorial discretion they have given ] weight to a very uninformed comment from "Film School Rejects" who said the film is "not a film to be found in CinemaScore's listings on its own site, which is strange (and possibly suspect)." If you understand CinemaScore this is not "suspect" and should not come as any surprise.


There is no need for this encyclopaedia giving undue weight to a silly uninformed comment from Film School Rejects. Editors should be able to properly explain what CinemaScore means if necessary. There are plenty of ways to dump on this partisan polemic in other ways without resorting to a "suspect" source that does not seem to understand how CinemaScore works. This encyclopaedia would be better if it chose not to quote this misinformed comment from Film School Rejects. -- ] (]) 10:42, 8 November 2021 (UTC)
Upon further research, it appears the claim originated from , an alt-right website known to push conspiracy theories. The article is dated July 5th, which is before both sources posted to this article. I've seen about 5 sources now repeating this claim and none of them provide sources for their information except for which references WND. It seems this is nothing more than a matter of false information sharing, but I'm hoping someone will be able to supply a reliable reference that properly sources the information.] (]) 07:27, 5 March 2018 (UTC)
: I don't know if it was deliberate scaremongering or an unfortunate failure to understand how ] works, but I have gone ahead and removed misleading the scarequotes claim from Film School Rejects that the Cinemascore was in any way "suspect". Just because they don't understand how Cinemascore works does not mean that editors of this encyclopedia should repeat their mistake. If editors still think the Cinemascore grade needs better context and explanation but it is no surprise at all that the self selected opening weekend audience had a positive opinion of the film. We have plenty of reviews from critics to indicate what most everyone else thought of it. -- ] (]) 21:37, 25 November 2021 (UTC)
:: Cinemasore A+ grades are rare, that is a statement supported by reliable sources and there is references included to support it. There is no need to '''overqualify''' the fact by also adding that "The Wrap identified it as rare" which is like inserting "According to" in front of everything to foster doubt, so I have removed it too. Again CinemaScore grades are about marketing not quality, they indicate that audiences got what they were expecting, so it is ] to quibble over how rare it is to get an A+ grade. -- ] (]) 22:37, 29 June 2022 (UTC)

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CinemaScore "suspect"

The CinemaScore for this film was very positive. That should not be surprising to anyone who has read the Misplaced Pages CinemaScore article which clearly explains what Cinemascore does and what their score means. Cinemascore survey opening weekend audiences, a self selected group of people most likely to enjoy the film. It is not any kind of objective evaluation of the quality of the film, it is a poll to see if the film met audience expectations. If in doubt you can read the Cinemascore article again. If editors feel it is absolutely necessary they could briefly explain what Cinemascore means again here in this article to give readers some context.

The CinemaScore article also explains "The distributor of a film that opens in fewer screens can optionally contract with CinemaScore for a private survey, whose result would be disclosed only to the client." It is already known that Cinemascore does surveys that are not necessarily disclosed to the general public. Unfortunately it seem as if people have not read the CinemaScore article, and instead of exercising some editorial discretion they have given WP:UNDUE weight to a very uninformed comment from "Film School Rejects" who said the film is "not a film to be found in CinemaScore's listings on its own site, which is strange (and possibly suspect)." If you understand CinemaScore this is not "suspect" and should not come as any surprise.

There is no need for this encyclopaedia giving undue weight to a silly uninformed comment from Film School Rejects. Editors should be able to properly explain what CinemaScore means if necessary. There are plenty of ways to dump on this partisan polemic in other ways without resorting to a "suspect" source that does not seem to understand how CinemaScore works. This encyclopaedia would be better if it chose not to quote this misinformed comment from Film School Rejects. -- 109.79.178.97 (talk) 10:42, 8 November 2021 (UTC)

I don't know if it was deliberate scaremongering or an unfortunate failure to understand how Cinemascore works, but I have gone ahead and removed misleading the scarequotes claim from Film School Rejects that the Cinemascore was in any way "suspect". Just because they don't understand how Cinemascore works does not mean that editors of this encyclopedia should repeat their mistake. If editors still think the Cinemascore grade needs better context and explanation but it is no surprise at all that the self selected opening weekend audience had a positive opinion of the film. We have plenty of reviews from critics to indicate what most everyone else thought of it. -- 109.79.164.114 (talk) 21:37, 25 November 2021 (UTC)
Cinemasore A+ grades are rare, that is a statement supported by reliable sources and there is references included to support it. There is no need to overqualify the fact by also adding that "The Wrap identified it as rare" which is like inserting "According to" in front of everything to foster doubt, so I have removed it too. Again CinemaScore grades are about marketing not quality, they indicate that audiences got what they were expecting, so it is pointless to quibble over how rare it is to get an A+ grade. -- 109.76.194.173 (talk) 22:37, 29 June 2022 (UTC)
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