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== ZenCash(Cryptocurrency) New Unreviewed Article ==
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Dear Prokaryotes,
Among other contributions, thank you for the ] and ] images. ] (]) 06:51, 6 July 2014 (UTC)
I would appreciate your help to review and cleaning my brand new article. I would really appreciate your expericen and comments to improve it
: Thanks. ] (]) 07:21, 6 July 2014 (UTC)


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== Climate Change edits ==
As an aside, I appreciate that climate change is a contentious issue, but so long
as statements which have come from a reasonable source e.g. NSIDC are cited, I
don't see the problem.


:What an injustice. Double-standards are being applied to the other editors who were edit-warring, who needlessly brought the action. Prokaryotes, please appeal. I would have done it for you if that was permissible, but apparently you have to. --] (]) 21:08, 5 February 2016 (UTC)
The wiki article suffers from bias, however. Extrapolating
::Yeah, i begun the process, first step ask the enforcing admin to reconsider. Thanks for your support David. ] (]) 21:10, 5 February 2016 (UTC)
dodgy data is dodgy science. A classic example of that is Arctic sea ice loss.
::::Just last week we cordially allowed editors to revert their own work after a warning of 1RR violation, and editors seemed to appreciate this more peaceful approach. Why have we suddenly reverted to nastiness? David is right about double standards. '''<span style="text-shadow:7px 7px 8px #B8B8B8;">]]]</span>''' 15:27, 6 February 2016 (UTC)
If you take a look at the satellite data which is only available since 1979:-
:::::<s>And for another example, take a look at ]<span style="font-family:Segoe print; color:red; text-shadow:gray 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">DrChrissy</span> <sup><span style="font-family:Segoe print; color:red; text-shadow:gray 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">]</span></sup> 15:52, 6 February 2016 (UTC)</s>
http://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosphere/iphone/images/iphone.anomaly.global.png
You can see a moderate decline from 1979 through to 2000, and that what looked like
an alarming decline from 2000 to 2012, followed by the situation today not looking
dissimilar to most of the period from 1979 through to 2000 i.e. an apparant recovery.
Whether this recovery will continue or not, who knows. What's clear from the arctic
sea ice data and the antarctic sea ice data, is that you can not conclusively
conclude from either data sets that an increase in CO2 and any global warming
that that may have produced can be directly correlated to any sea ice melt. Climate
models have thus far failed. That doesn't negate the science, but what it should
tell you is that the jury is still out and there is no settled science.
Science isn't a popularity contest, that's politics. / Moved and ] for ], ] (]) 12:49, 11 August 2014 (UTC)
: show the decline in recent decades, from the 1979–2000 mean 7.0 declining to 5.4 (millions of square kilometers). ] (]) 11:11, 12 August 2014 (UTC)


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:* That is funny Padenton, since you got more comments in that discussion than me. But sure you always have some sort of guideline or policy you link as well. Pathetic. ] (]) 12:47, 4 May 2015 (UTC)
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:: Yeah, but close. Also if you look at my replies, many are in response to other replies. Anyway, please leave me alone. ] (]) 13:00, 4 May 2015 (UTC)
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I don't want to blow up the delete discussion and may have a language problem. What did you not understand in "prune, improve"? --] (]) 13:46, 9 May 2015 (UTC)
: I keep asking you personally about a possible misunderstanding between you and me here. --] (]) 14:33, 9 May 2015 (UTC)
:: My impression is that even with improvements the person is not notable, and my arguments can be found over at the deletion discussion, no misunderstanding here. ] (]) 14:34, 9 May 2015 (UTC)
::: Gerda was in right as I had to provide some reviews, done now, same as for the presidency and British science festival contribution. You could have saved some effort by using google ;) That said, a professor with that background is far from being a case for deletion in any Misplaced Pages I am aware of. Your twitter quote was sort of funny - again google would have helped to get the various doi's. I am amused in a way, you really seem to fear science. Serten 21:11, 9 May 2015 (UTC)


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Hello ]. At , I don't agree with you that the content you removed is unimportant, and of course you also removed the citation to a reliable source. Would you please explain your reasoning? ] (]) 13:12, 21 May 2015 (UTC)
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::I don't agree that the information is "not relevant for WP", because it is part of the history of this scientist's professional life and is clearly relevant to the question of whether he is a reliable authority. The article is not hosted on Storch's blog, it's on the web site of '']'', and there is nothing controversial about it, it is a factual report of a court case. Can you please clarify in what way it does not conform with ]? BLP does not aim to whitewash biographies of living people, it rightly insists on sources. ] (]) 08:49, 22 May 2015 (UTC)
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::Can you explain to me ], why you would've supported a blanket topic ban? As up to now, you had been apparently suggesting that I did not adhere to your desired interpretation of ] and that, that was allegedly, your only concern? Yet here I read that in truth, you both have a desire to see me topic banned from any-and-all climate related articles? What a curiously targeted ban proposal...Can you understand why I find this especially suspicious?
::: Prokaryotes has a strong COI - he is willing as well to remove content from Nature at Naomi Oreskes or trying to provide biased interpretations of other scientists work at will. That case had a major impact in the German press and is of cause relevant. Serten ] 23:20, 22 May 2015 (UTC)


::As you don't just want to see me banned from biographies, or whatever, which would be somewhat understandable if your OUTING concerns had in fact, been genuine. Instead, you both wish me banned from any-and-all "climate related articles". That's quite telling of your true motivations for starting this obvious stream of bloviated charges. You, do get that right?
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::In any case, it is lovely to see you both here, finally being honest about your ultimate motivations for starting this obvious charade of fake-charges and censorship attempts.
Hello. Your additions to ] need serious rewriting. They contain references that are incomprehensible. Eg., what does "(HaKo-rrov 6fx.fxa) and re-echoing hearing (iix-o-Kovrj, ib. 1. 52. &c. comp. 1. 89 ; Plat. Parmen. p. 135, d.)." mean? You seem to have copied sections without Wikifying them. If they are not rewritten they will have to be removed. ] (]) 09:10, 30 May 2015 (UTC)


::It's been very illuminating getting to know you two and what you are apparently willing to do and say, to get what you two ultimately desired. I am indebted to ] and other straight-shooters like ] for keeping wikipedia honest and stopping your crusade against me. Keep it up, with fan-users like Porkaryotes and Kosh, seemingly masquerading around the place. The project definitely needs you.
Also, the author's name is William Smith, not Smith William. And the citation does not work easily. This does. ] (]) 09:14, 30 May 2015 (UTC)
: I've updated the page, thanks for the notice. ] (]) 09:27, 30 May 2015 (UTC) ::] (])
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Had to laugh while searching for sources; "Activists wasted no time in using Hurricane Harvey to tout their political agenda of climate change and global warming." Says Breitbart, who of course aren't activists, don't have a political agenda, and are all in favour of climate change and global warming. Will ] come next? . ], ] 19:19, 28 August 2017 (UTC)
:Btw, because of your comment about the spinoff page, i looked at it, and noticed it was a complete mess. Breitbart in a nutshell = ] More info https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/feb/26/robert-mercer-breitbart-war-on-media-steve-bannon-donald-trump-nigel-farage ] (]) 19:26, 28 August 2017 (UTC)


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You say there is an Rfc still ongoing but you did not readd that when you removed my fair compromise rewording...which further proves your inability to be neutral.--] 15:01, 12 September 2017 (UTC)
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:A page with some photos is not really a good external link. Should we begin adding all websites which contain photos from whatever the authors claim? If these were original ancient photos of related content, then it would be a good addition. ] (]) 15:02, 3 June 2015 (UTC)
::I see what you mean. You are right. Thank you for your reply! ] (]) 16:04, 3 June 2015 (UTC)


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P, my impression may be off here, but I hardly think you are an uninvolved editor with any business doing non-admin closure when the underlying issue is climate change. ] (]) 10:34, 15 June 2015 (UTC)
: I wasn't involved with the user edits, and the particular edits are more about politics, but thank you for the notice NAEG. But maybe i have to read the guidelines again, not entirely sure. Anyway I am done with getting involved there for now, tried to defuse it, but well ... ] (]) 10:41, 15 June 2015 (UTC) :Thanks, was trying earlier. ] (]) 10:57, 10 October 2017 (UTC)
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:::: Lol, You know there was a recent discussion about exactly this ... anyway have a nice week :) ] (]) 10:55, 15 June 2015 (UTC)
::::: What thread are you talking about? If I made a mistake, teach me! ] (]) 10:57, 15 June 2015 (UTC)
:::::: A brief discussion though, look and search the page for ''William''. And i don't think you made a mistake, and it was good to alert me here, but it is probably a bit of a grey zone - how you interpret it, since i wasn't really involved, and i didn't acted in a way to give me or others any advantage? ] (]) 11:03, 15 June 2015 (UTC)
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he breached a contract with the nsa, therefore his promises are shit. and he gave top secret information to both Russia and china therefore who are our enemies. so by aiding them that makes him a traitor, that's a fact not opinion.
: Sorry but i really don't care. ] (]) 22:12, 17 June 2015 (UTC) :Based on , I came to the related study, which cites ''tropical transitioning cyclones''. If you can improve that, why not? Maybe also a very plain basic description such as a previously in the tropics originated cyclone, or something along the lines. ] (]) 22:28, 16 October 2017 (UTC)
::What do you think of a "higher category" article to ], which includes ]s and typhoon (and any other regional names)? ] (]) 22:32, 16 October 2017 (UTC)
:::I think this was suggested, and CAT 6 hints at it, but it would require at least two credible studies to justify an article. ] (]) 22:34, 16 October 2017 (UTC)
::::If you run across where it "was suggested' can you forward the link to me, please? :-) ] (]) 22:38, 16 October 2017 (UTC)
:::::See for instance ] (]) 22:43, 16 October 2017 (UTC)
::::::I get the idea of creation of higher cyclone categories, but I am just focusing on clarifying terminology of (tropical) cyclones and global warming. I am not a cyclone expert (as most readers are not) and find the "tropical" part confusing. Creation of higher cyclone categories is far beyond me, and is a related but separate article I would assume. ] (]) 22:50, 16 October 2017 (UTC)
::::::: Unless the ] (or other scales) gets updated or there are studies suggesting it, an article is not really backed-up. a more recent acknowledgment in this regard however is ] (ACE). ] (]) 22:53, 16 October 2017 (UTC)
:::::::: It appears we are talking about two different things now. Maybe we will run across each other's paths later. ] (]) 23:02, 16 October 2017 (UTC)


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:::I think it is totally fine to adjust names when new information becomes available. Something slightly similar, see my talk page entry for Parmenides. ] (]) 22:48, 18 October 2017 (UTC)
::::{{U|Katolophyromai}}, I think this idealized bust can be highly correlated with Plato https://en.wikipedia.org/Plato#/media/File:Dionysus-or-Plato-Herculaneum-papyri-Villa-of-the-Papyri-Barker.jpg ] (]) 21:36, 19 October 2017 (UTC)
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== Edit war ==

By a strict measure, I think you're up to 6 reverts in 24 hours. Time for a break maybe? ] (]) 13:47, 31 July 2018 (UTC)
:I have no idea what you talking about. ] (]) 13:50, 31 July 2018 (UTC)
::Please refresh your memory as to the definition of a ] then review at Global warming. See also the tech rules at ]. I may have screwed up in some technical way, and this isn't a formal complaint. Just saying...... wikipedia is not an emergency and there's always tomorrow and next week. ] (]) 13:55, 31 July 2018 (UTC)
::: Nope, no breach on my part, look again if you must. ] (]) 13:59, 31 July 2018 (UTC)
::: Please stop interacting with me. ] (]) 14:03, 31 July 2018 (UTC)
::: {{ping|NewsAndEventsGuy}} to make sure you get above notice. ] (]) 14:04, 31 July 2018 (UTC)
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== on track... ==

FYI, posting here as more than one article is being tweaked with this new paper.... the new paper does NOT say we are ''definitely'' on track for xyz as you wrote. It says we ''might'' be kicking off this series of feedbacks and those temps ''could'' be reached if we do that. As one of your secondary sources said... words to the effect of... we didn't make conclusions, we asked questions. I'm short on time for trying to make fixes. I think I saw this problem at ] or under ] ] (]) 21:06, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
:Hello, at cs, clarified more, from the summary, "Researchers believe we could soon cross a threshold leading to boiling hot temperatures and towering seas in the centuries to come." ] (]) 21:12, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
: We ''soon could'', and ''on path'', very similar. ] (]) 21:14, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
: And on path, as in continued temperature rise, i still think this is correct wording, did not wrote definitely. And on path simply means we can leave that path too, room for interpretation. ] (]) 21:24, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
:: Actually they are not similar. One is definite, the other ambiguous. "On path" implies definitely. "could" is ambiguous. It might mean "we're definitely on a trajectory that we understand and we have to a choice - we could do either A or B. But Could might also mean "we're not sure, but the following scenario sure seems plausible". So which meaning of "could" is the one used in the RSs? I think the RSs answer this question quite simply - someone in the RSs told the reporter they didn't draw conclusions rather they asked questions. So no, they are not the same thing at all. Where there is room for interpretation in ''our'' writing, some clean up editor might tag it with ] ] (]) 22:13, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
::: Btw. why are you posting again on my talk page, lol. It feels like you are my personal supervisor. ] (]) 09:21, 7 August 2018 (UTC)
:::: I suppose I could have picked on of the articles where you posted the same study and put a pointer at the talk pages for others. Sorry. If you want, I'd be happy to cut this thread for your talk page and put it at one of them. Please advise. ] (]) 11:24, 7 August 2018 (UTC)
::::: The issue has been resolved to your liking, no? Just do nothing, but in the future use article talk space. Thanks. ] (]) 11:27, 7 August 2018 (UTC)
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::Same here; the courtesy is welcome, but the articles are on my watchlist as well. ] (]) 13:40, 19 August 2018 (UTC)
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Thanks for your tireless contributions to SRL/Global warming. I just came across a page I found useful in the distinction between primary and secondary sources in the scientific literature: https://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Identifying_primary_and_secondary_sources_for_biology_articles (tldr: scientific articles have parts that are primary and secondary and secondary source is preferable over first). It's for biology, but equally applicable in climate science. Might be good if we're all on the same page in terms of what a RS source should be :). ] (]) 09:01, 24 August 2018 (UTC)

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I've written up some of my rationale on the articles talk page (plus I've already copied the Pope's intervention to the ] page. Perhaps the point on the NYC protests could be added there as well ? (kindof a different angle I guess.. :/ ).
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:I have already restored the former redir to ] because ]. If a ton of RS's ''about the phrase itself'' should turn up then an article ''about the phrase itself'' might pass muster. Otherwise, this would be a POVFORK of ] and ] ] (]) 19:09, 23 June 2019 (UTC) See also ] (which is a redir to ]) ] (]) 19:10, 23 June 2019 (UTC)
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== Hmm :/ ==

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What an injustice. Double-standards are being applied to the other editors who were edit-warring, who needlessly brought the action. Prokaryotes, please appeal. I would have done it for you if that was permissible, but apparently you have to. --David Tornheim (talk) 21:08, 5 February 2016 (UTC)
Yeah, i begun the process, first step ask the enforcing admin to reconsider. Thanks for your support David. prokaryotes (talk) 21:10, 5 February 2016 (UTC)
Just last week we cordially allowed editors to revert their own work after a warning of 1RR violation, and editors seemed to appreciate this more peaceful approach. Why have we suddenly reverted to nastiness? David is right about double standards. petrarchan47คุ 15:27, 6 February 2016 (UTC)
And for another example, take a look at WP:ANI# Admin edits my post to deliberately change the meaningDrChrissy 15:52, 6 February 2016 (UTC)

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design -- While a bit late, the reason why my contribution was banned, was wrong - the material i used is regarded as public domain material. But who cares ... prokaryotes (talk) 19:26, 15 July 2016 (UTC)

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Luminiferous AE just beneath a bevelled edge of light but ultimately the near presence FYI. I mentioned you here, but ping probably didn't work. --David Tornheim (talk) 23:19, 24 July 2016 (UTC)

Good points in your comment over there, David Tornheim. Who ever might be concerned, i will not return to editing until WP cleans up their mess on such topics. Would be interested on the outcome, maybe ping me the result later, thx. prokaryotes (talk) 22:07, 25 July 2016 (UTC)

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While editing ExxonMobil climate change controversy, I had added a link to the previously visible article "climate action" (now redirected to climate change mitigation, while you appeared to have been "self requested blocked") to which you seem to be the major contributor. Is this information a duplication, or does it go somewhere else? 69.58.42.90 (talk) 22:11, 27 July 2016 (UTC)

Climate action was a different article with different content, the content has not been added to the mitigation page. Old article content can be seen here https://web.archive.org/web/20160416085400/https://en.wikipedia.org/Climate_action prokaryotes (talk) 11:52, 28 July 2016 (UTC)

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The source was a video trailer, but Misplaced Pages has YouTube blacklisted, which i became aware when submitting the edit. So i decided to keep it there anyway, you can have content remain with a citation needed. prokaryotes (talk) 09:53, 20 May 2017 (UTC)

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I've noticed you use "landmark" here or there. Please take a refresher peak at WP:PUFFERY. NewsAndEventsGuy (talk) 11:48, 22 May 2017 (UTC)

Well, the source called it that, besides feel free to edit it out, np. prokaryotes (talk) 12:06, 22 May 2017 (UTC)
Words that are ordinarily puffery are not puffery when they appear in a properly attributed quote that is, in other respects, appropriate to include. So if I misunderstood the way it was used, my apologies.NewsAndEventsGuy (talk) 14:21, 22 May 2017 (UTC)

NewsAndEventsGuy, maybe we should have even an article for that report, seems significant enough to me (authors include Keeling, Revelle, Broecker and others) prokaryotes (talk) 12:12, 22 May 2017 (UTC)

That's a different topic, and I have no commment either way at this time. NewsAndEventsGuy (talk) 14:21, 22 May 2017 (UTC)


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To be honest, it's too bad you closed that so early, I'd support it.  Ҝ Ø Ƽ Ħ  15:41, 23 May 2017 (UTC)

Well, i thought in regards to WP:AGF, and it is so time consuming. prokaryotes (talk) 15:43, 23 May 2017 (UTC)
Can you explain to me user:KoshVorlon, why you would've supported a blanket topic ban? As up to now, you had been apparently suggesting that I did not adhere to your desired interpretation of WP:OUTING and that, that was allegedly, your only concern? Yet here I read that in truth, you both have a desire to see me topic banned from any-and-all climate related articles? What a curiously targeted ban proposal...Can you understand why I find this especially suspicious?
As you don't just want to see me banned from biographies, or whatever, which would be somewhat understandable if your OUTING concerns had in fact, been genuine. Instead, you both wish me banned from any-and-all "climate related articles". That's quite telling of your true motivations for starting this obvious stream of bloviated charges. You, do get that right?
In any case, it is lovely to see you both here, finally being honest about your ultimate motivations for starting this obvious charade of fake-charges and censorship attempts.
It's been very illuminating getting to know you two and what you are apparently willing to do and say, to get what you two ultimately desired. I am indebted to User:Nyttend and other straight-shooters like User:Murph9000 for keeping wikipedia honest and stopping your crusade against me. Keep it up, with fan-users like Porkaryotes and Kosh, seemingly masquerading around the place. The project definitely needs you.
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Had to laugh while searching for sources; "Activists wasted no time in using Hurricane Harvey to tout their political agenda of climate change and global warming." Says Breitbart, who of course aren't activists, don't have a political agenda, and are all in favour of climate change and global warming. Will Harvey (film) come next? . dave souza, talk 19:19, 28 August 2017 (UTC)

Btw, because of your comment about the spinoff page, i looked at it, and noticed it was a complete mess. Breitbart in a nutshell = Robert Mercer (businessman) More info https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/feb/26/robert-mercer-breitbart-war-on-media-steve-bannon-donald-trump-nigel-farage prokaryotes (talk) 19:26, 28 August 2017 (UTC)

Hey POV pusher

You say there is an Rfc still ongoing but you did not readd that when you removed my fair compromise rewording...which further proves your inability to be neutral.--MONGO 15:01, 12 September 2017 (UTC)

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Thanks, was trying to figure this out earlier. prokaryotes (talk) 10:57, 10 October 2017 (UTC)

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"tropical transitioning cyclones"

At tropical cyclone by "tropical transitioning cyclones" do you intend tropical cyclone transitioning into extra-tropical cyclone? X1\ (talk) 22:25, 16 October 2017 (UTC)

Based on CAT 6, I came to the related study, which cites tropical transitioning cyclones. If you can improve that, why not? Maybe also a very plain basic description such as a previously in the tropics originated cyclone, or something along the lines. prokaryotes (talk) 22:28, 16 October 2017 (UTC)
What do you think of a "higher category" article to tropical cyclones and climate change, which includes extratropical cyclones and typhoon (and any other regional names)? X1\ (talk) 22:32, 16 October 2017 (UTC)
I think this was suggested, and CAT 6 hints at it, but it would require at least two credible studies to justify an article. prokaryotes (talk) 22:34, 16 October 2017 (UTC)
If you run across where it "was suggested' can you forward the link to me, please? :-) X1\ (talk) 22:38, 16 October 2017 (UTC)
See for instance Are Category 6 Hurricanes Coming Soon? prokaryotes (talk) 22:43, 16 October 2017 (UTC)
I get the idea of creation of higher cyclone categories, but I am just focusing on clarifying terminology of (tropical) cyclones and global warming. I am not a cyclone expert (as most readers are not) and find the "tropical" part confusing. Creation of higher cyclone categories is far beyond me, and is a related but separate article I would assume. X1\ (talk) 22:50, 16 October 2017 (UTC)
Unless the Saffir–Simpson scale (or other scales) gets updated or there are studies suggesting it, an article is not really backed-up. a more recent acknowledgment in this regard however is Accumulated cyclone energy (ACE). prokaryotes (talk) 22:53, 16 October 2017 (UTC)
It appears we are talking about two different things now. Maybe we will run across each other's paths later. X1\ (talk) 23:02, 16 October 2017 (UTC)

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Hi Katolophyromai, thanks for the heads up about the namings, I read that 4 sculptors had names directly attached? I suggest to add newer identifications as a follow up information. In regards to Archimedes, thanks for the edit. I actually became aware of the error of it being Archidamus III, changed the image name, but somehow forgot to remove it from the Archimedes page. prokaryotes (talk) 21:26, 18 October 2017 (UTC)
That is perfectly fine. I just thought I would let you know that the sculptures from the House of the Papyri have a long history of misidentification, so the labels underneath the illustrations you have been adding may not always be accurate. I would also like to thank you for your contributions; adding new images of ancient sculptures helps bring those sculptures to the attention of the Misplaced Pages community and, in some cases, those images can be immense improvements to the article. --Katolophyromai (talk) 22:36, 18 October 2017 (UTC)
I think it is totally fine to adjust names when new information becomes available. Something slightly similar, see my talk page entry here for Parmenides. prokaryotes (talk) 22:48, 18 October 2017 (UTC)
Katolophyromai, I think this idealized bust can be highly correlated with Plato https://en.wikipedia.org/Plato#/media/File:Dionysus-or-Plato-Herculaneum-papyri-Villa-of-the-Papyri-Barker.jpg prokaryotes (talk) 21:36, 19 October 2017 (UTC)
Katolophyromai, can you link to the study or article about the more recent attributions? prokaryotes (talk) 20:59, 30 October 2017 (UTC)

A beer for you

Still foaming, cool refreshing beverage for your efforts onconstructive edits on a wide range of topics related to the spectrum of the state of our climate. :-P X1\ (talk) 23:28, 2 November 2017 (UTC)
Thank you :) (I think i drank this kind of beer at least once before). prokaryotes (talk) 10:35, 3 November 2017 (UTC)

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I did two different reverts, do you disagree with those? prokaryotes (talk) 19:58, 4 November 2017 (UTC)
Both reverts count toward 3RR. I disagree with both, but I only reverted the addition of the Goodrich source, a naive, non-specialist source for high schools from the 19th century. Even by the low standards of some of the existing sources in the article, the Goodrich source was a bit too much. Dr. K. 20:11, 4 November 2017 (UTC)
Dr.K., Okay, i won't challenge this, i wasn't aware that this guy has not such a high reputation. Generally i find old books interesting (nevertheless). To call this edit warring seems a little bit over the top. I reverted one edit, previously also restored by another editor, stating that the content present consensus opinion. prokaryotes (talk) 20:14, 4 November 2017 (UTC)
Thank you for the clarification Prokaryotes. Old books have their value, and not all of them are obsolete, depending on context. As far as edit-warring, two reverts are an indication of wp:ew, but I will not press the point, since your GF in this case is apparent. Best regards. Dr. K. 20:22, 4 November 2017 (UTC)
Initially i was searching for the source, for the claim about Thales name engraved at the Temple of Dheli at https://en.wikipedia.org/Seven_Sages_of_Greece Goodrich's book came up. I've tagged these claims as Seven Sages for needing references. prokaryotes (talk) 20:25, 4 November 2017 (UTC)
Good point. I'll try to see if I can find any sources. Dr. K. 20:29, 4 November 2017 (UTC)

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Star Trek

Now that the Star Trek AfD has concluded, I just found it slightly amusing that only days after you reference Stranger Things as only having one article, different editors came into the scene, and now there's talks for drafts and articles for Season 1, Season 2, List of Episodes, List of Characters, articles for separate character... -- Alex 04:40, 6 November 2017 (UTC)

AlexTheWhovian, while I regret my AFD to some extent, my concern was primarily with repeated content. Some editors vowed to improve that, and I hope that isn't the case with new ST articles created, at least not with the already existing page on ST music. prokaryotes (talk) 20:18, 6 November 2017 (UTC)

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Saw your

It has been suggested that the opening of the Arctic Ocean to commercial traffic could result in exposure of humans to yet unknown pathogenic vectors.

at Arctic sea ice decline ... maybe better at Effects of global warming on human health ? X1\ (talk) 21:07, 12 November 2017 (UTC)

X1\, I think this is enough for a mention on either page, the cited source also mentions the related study. However, I don't think it belongs into the effects article. Possibly the Arctic decline page with more sourcing (since that's what has been challenged by Mc Connell). prokaryotes (talk) 22:46, 12 November 2017 (UTC)

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See for instance https://www.quora.com/Did-Einstein-say-Education-is-not-the-learning-of-facts-but-the-training-of-minds-to-think prokaryotes (talk) 23:19, 13 December 2017 (UTC)

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Edit war

By a strict measure, I think you're up to 6 reverts in 24 hours. Time for a break maybe? NewsAndEventsGuy (talk) 13:47, 31 July 2018 (UTC)

I have no idea what you talking about. prokaryotes (talk) 13:50, 31 July 2018 (UTC)
Please refresh your memory as to the definition of a WP:REVERT then review the last 24 hours in version history at Global warming. See also the tech rules at WP:3RR. I may have screwed up in some technical way, and this isn't a formal complaint. Just saying...... wikipedia is not an emergency and there's always tomorrow and next week. NewsAndEventsGuy (talk) 13:55, 31 July 2018 (UTC)
Nope, no breach on my part, look again if you must. prokaryotes (talk) 13:59, 31 July 2018 (UTC)
Please stop interacting with me. prokaryotes (talk) 14:03, 31 July 2018 (UTC)
@NewsAndEventsGuy: to make sure you get above notice. prokaryotes (talk) 14:04, 31 July 2018 (UTC)
I think you mean "Please don't post on my user talk page". To the extent procedure allows I will try to remember not to post to your user talk page though if some days pass I may need a reminder. However, in practical terms, interaction is inevitable if we both edit pages in the same subject area.NewsAndEventsGuy (talk) 14:31, 31 July 2018 (UTC)

on track...

FYI, posting here as more than one article is being tweaked with this new paper.... the new paper does NOT say we are definitely on track for xyz as you wrote. It says we might be kicking off this series of feedbacks and those temps could be reached if we do that. As one of your secondary sources said... words to the effect of... we didn't make conclusions, we asked questions. I'm short on time for trying to make fixes. I think I saw this problem at runaway climate change or under climate state NewsAndEventsGuy (talk) 21:06, 6 August 2018 (UTC)

Hello, at cs, clarified more, from the BBC ref summary, "Researchers believe we could soon cross a threshold leading to boiling hot temperatures and towering seas in the centuries to come." prokaryotes (talk) 21:12, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
We soon could, and on path, very similar. prokaryotes (talk) 21:14, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
And on path, as in continued temperature rise, i still think this is correct wording, did not wrote definitely. And on path simply means we can leave that path too, room for interpretation. prokaryotes (talk) 21:24, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
Actually they are not similar. One is definite, the other ambiguous. "On path" implies definitely. "could" is ambiguous. It might mean "we're definitely on a trajectory that we understand and we have to a choice - we could do either A or B. But Could might also mean "we're not sure, but the following scenario sure seems plausible". So which meaning of "could" is the one used in the RSs? I think the RSs answer this question quite simply - someone in the RSs told the reporter they didn't draw conclusions rather they asked questions. So no, they are not the same thing at all. Where there is room for interpretation in our writing, some clean up editor might tag it with Template:Clarify NewsAndEventsGuy (talk) 22:13, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
Btw. why are you posting again on my talk page, lol. It feels like you are my personal supervisor. prokaryotes (talk) 09:21, 7 August 2018 (UTC)
I suppose I could have picked on of the articles where you posted the same study and put a pointer at the talk pages for others. Sorry. If you want, I'd be happy to cut this thread for your talk page and put it at one of them. Please advise. NewsAndEventsGuy (talk) 11:24, 7 August 2018 (UTC)
The issue has been resolved to your liking, no? Just do nothing, but in the future use article talk space. Thanks. prokaryotes (talk) 11:27, 7 August 2018 (UTC)
Yes thanks; sorry to bother you here. I was actually treating you how I like to be treated, incidentally. If I screw up in my read of a source, I'd rather a quiet word on my talk page than the article page. I'll try to remember that you feel differently. NewsAndEventsGuy (talk) 11:56, 7 August 2018 (UTC)

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Please don't Ping me in discussions where I already commented. You can safely assume I will see your comments in my watchlist, and the pings make extra busywork cleaning out the notification folder. Thanks. NewsAndEventsGuy (talk) 13:30, 19 August 2018 (UTC)

Okay. prokaryotes (talk) 13:39, 19 August 2018 (UTC)
Same here; the courtesy is welcome, but the articles are on my watchlist as well. Shock Brigade Harvester Boris (talk) 13:40, 19 August 2018 (UTC)
Helpful tip, since we often cross in the same talk theads, just FYI... you'll frequently see me say @Prokaryotes, as opposed to @Prokaryotes:. Sometimes I use a rootin tootin ping in brackets and other times, just to help people follow the threading in a multi editor discussion I'll call one ed's attention by typing out the at-symbol and their name in text. NewsAndEventsGuy (talk) 22:01, 19 August 2018 (UTC)
Yes, you actually inspired me with this, subtle change noted. prokaryotes (talk) 22:04, 19 August 2018 (UTC)

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Thanks for your tireless contributions to SRL/Global warming. I just came across a page I found useful in the distinction between primary and secondary sources in the scientific literature: https://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Identifying_primary_and_secondary_sources_for_biology_articles (tldr: scientific articles have parts that are primary and secondary and secondary source is preferable over first). It's for biology, but equally applicable in climate science. Might be good if we're all on the same page in terms of what a RS source should be :). Femkemilene (talk) 09:01, 24 August 2018 (UTC)

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Thanks Mortee, do I have to do this also when I wrote the original text? prokaryotes (talk) 10:30, 31 August 2018 (UTC)
Found it, "If the re-user is the sole contributor of the text at the other page, attribution is not necessary." prokaryotes (talk) 10:32, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

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I am newer to Misplaced Pages so I do not know if this is a proper place to discuss this, but you mentioned in your revert of my edit that the article I referenced made no mention of sea level change, however, it did mention it in the video posted on the same link, even though it was excluded in the writing part of it. It was not 'original research'. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.47.8.174 (talk) 01:14, 24 November 2018 (UTC)

Hi, and welcome to Misplaced Pages. I highly suggest you make a real editing account, makes things such tracking this reply much easier. Personally I think that original videos should qualify as a reference, but this is often a messy process. However, the video is not suggesting that the global sea level rose, it suggests that water was re-routed, which could eventually have flooded some regions for short or longer durations. However, if the recent impact theory holds, it would also mean, culminating in the Younger Dryas, which was a cooling period, and involving an initial stage dubbed, Meltwater pulse 1A. There is at least one article making this very clear connection to the YD theory, here, however, also not addressing SLR. If you find a article which elaborates on SLR, HC, and YD, please go ahead, but needs a good reliable source. prokaryotes (talk) 10:55, 24 November 2018 (UTC)

Global catastrophe

I saw GreenC back at it. Be aware he thrives in conflict and not so much in building this encyclopedia. My recommendation is that you go ahead and balance that article with other scientist POV, as you correctly propose, because you will NEVER reach an agreement with him on even on the color of the sky. Again, he thrives in conflict, not on cooperation. Cheers, Rowan Forest (talk) 18:36, 7 January 2019 (UTC)

Thanks, also related, this. prokaryotes (talk) 19:19, 7 January 2019 (UTC)
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Climate emergency

Hi there! I just wanted to add Climate emergency as a term (ie redirect) to Climate Change, and was about to do this when I noticed that a lot of your edits are really recent :/ . Thinking that was pretty unfortunate (seeing that my edit would blanket the content...), I thought I'd ping you here so we can talk about it in calm, rather than you be faced with me having already "destroyed" the page :P.

I've written up some of my rationale on the articles talk page (plus I've already copied the Pope's intervention to the Climate emergency declaration page. Perhaps the point on the NYC protests could be added there as well ? (kindof a different angle I guess.. :/ ). Regards ! Sean Heron (talk) 18:56, 23 June 2019 (UTC)

I have already restored the former redir to Global warming because Misplaced Pages:Wikipedia_is_not_a_dictionary#Neologisms. If a ton of RS's about the phrase itself should turn up then an article about the phrase itself might pass muster. Otherwise, this would be a POVFORK of Global warming and Politics of global warming NewsAndEventsGuy (talk) 19:09, 23 June 2019 (UTC) See also Climate crisis (which is a redir to global warming) NewsAndEventsGuy (talk) 19:10, 23 June 2019 (UTC)

Hmm, not on substance but on process - to recap: I see an issue, want to fix the issue, see a different user has been working on exactly the page I'll be blanking on exactly the same day, and decide to therefore first raise the issue with that user (and even point out why I'm raising it rather than just fixing it). Then someone else (in this case you NewsAndEventsGuy :P ) blankets the page. That's not exactly courteous - not to Prokaryotes nor to me :/ .

That bothered me just now so I wanted to point it out.

Oh, and btw - for both of you - I've suggested reinvigorating the "Taskforce Climate change" as a Wikiproject :). You two I know are both active on the topic, and are probably the next I'd have pinged (I've pinged Dmcq and FemkeMilene already - and opened a section at the taskforce talkpage). I guess if we want to move forwards with that, it'd be good to have some kind of way to work constructively (even better - happily!) with each other :D !

Regards, Sean Heron (talk) 20:45, 23 June 2019 (UTC)

My apologies Sean. Prokaryotes and I have a long and painful history. I was unaware of your work until after I'd taken action. I agree with Fremkemiline's comments about the task force...anything that will work is a good thing but one might have to try new things to find out what things those are. Go for it! NewsAndEventsGuy (talk) 02:24, 24 June 2019 (UTC)
Hi Sean, thanks for the nice explainer, though the page should either be merged with Climate emergency declaration or be directed there. NewsAndEventsGuy, he is obsessed with the idea that many of my edits are NPOV violations XD prokaryotes (talk) 09:25, 24 June 2019 (UTC)
Thanks for the comments guys. I've read a couple of your exchanges and I can a), understand the sentiment of the both of you, b) reckon that you often both had a point / some truth on your side :/ . Anyhow see my Comment on the Talk:Climate emergency#Broader issue at handtalk page - reckon if we step back and discuss some fundamentals, that might help us working with each other :) ! I want to take up your suggestion and move the Wikiproject forwards NewsAndEventsGuy :) . Regards Sean Heron (talk) 13:34, 25 June 2019 (UTC)
P.S. Prokaryote - "obsessed" has a negative connotation in english - so if you use that word, that can be seen as a negative portrayal. (I'd be glad if we all make an effort to be more positive with one another moving forward - even when we're in disagreement :D !)

Hmm :/

Hey, I can understand the frustration (I think), but I guess part of my hope with moving a Wikiproject "Climate Change" (or whatever) forwards was that it'd help finding commonalities, and sort out long standing issues and friction :/ . I'd be sad to see you go (and would miss your contributions and voice!), and would look forward to seeing whether working together in more of a team fashion mightn't help sooth feelings somewhat :( . Feel free to ping me or email, I'm happy to chat... Regards, Sean Heron (talk) 21:03, 25 June 2019 (UTC)

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