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| == Belton House == | |||
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| This talk page has remained protected since May 2011, when you were involved in the discussion. Since that month there has been only one edit. Is there a reason that it should remain protected? ] (]) 22:29, 1 April 2023 (UTC) | |||
| :I think you may be confusing Giano with another editor, and in any case, Giano has not edited since last August. I have unprotected that talk page. ] (]) 22:36, 1 April 2023 (UTC) | |||
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| Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion involving you at ] regarding a possible violation of Misplaced Pages's policy on ]. <!--Template:An3-notice--> Thank you. ] (]) 09:54, 3 May 2015 (UTC) | |||
| : {{blocked|time=48h|reason=]}} | |||
| :: None of your reverts was an exception to ]. After the block expires pls discuss your edits with the opponents by means different than the edit summaries.--] (]) 11:54, 3 May 2015 (UTC) | |||
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| *I feel very strongly about this and am quite happy to remain blocked for it. However, it is difficult to know which of the facts I wrote are so disputed by Misplaced Pages: A former Arb, Admin ] with access to most of the queues on ] who is also a member of Wikimedia UK used knowledge gained from his Misplaced Pages privileges to publicly denounce, in the British national press, a politician standing in the national election taking place on Thursday. It now seems having caused a national shitstorm to rage over this politician's head that there is little if any concrete evidence to substantiate these claims. Worryingly, it seems this lack of evidence must not be reported on Misplaced Pages, nor must it be reported that Misplaced Pages is investigating this admin's claims. Similarly, Misplaced Pages forbids it to be mentioned that the project has, to date, been unable to substantiate or disprove these claims. The former Arb at the center of this also claims to have consulted other senior Wikipedians - who are they - until we know, a lot of people will unavoidably fall under suspicion. | |||
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| |style="vertical-align: middle; border-top: 1px solid gray;" | Wishing everybody a Happy Holiday Season, and all best wishes for the New Year! The Nativity scene on the ] by ] is my Wiki-Christmas card to all for this year. ] (]) 02:59, 24 December 2023 (UTC) | |||
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| == ] == | |||
| :I also pointed out that our high profile founder (living in London) is known to be acquainted with many Labour politicians; I draw no conclusions from that, I'm quite sure he's beyond reproach; but possibly others may draw other conclusions, therefore, it seems to me that it is essential that to retain the integrity of Misplaced Pages, the project either proves or refutes these allegations or at least makes it very clear that they are unproven before Britain goes to the poles on Thursday. I am sorry if others find that unreasonable. To me, it seems only fair. Misplaced Pages should stay above politics. <span style="text-shadow:grey 0.2em 0.2em 0.1em; class=texhtml">]</span> ] 13:17, 3 May 2015 (UTC) | |||
| Hello {{u|Giano}}, | |||
| As one of the original parties to the "Durova" arbitration case, you may be interested in the current ]. A motion has been proposed to modify principle 2 by removing copyright-related wording from it. | |||
| ==Blocked for edit warring at ]== | |||
| Giano, I mention the name of the article here since ] didn't, and your editing of ] concerns a matter relevant to Misplaced Pages governance. I can't really blame ] for reverting your original edit , since you had only sourced the bit about Jimbo being close to leading figures in the Labour Party, not the rest of your sentence (which was the most important part). But once you had added a link to the arbitration case in your second edit, I've no idea why she and others kept reverting you, calling it "opinion" and "soapboxing". It looks like fact to me. , I see Mariamullins reverting you again, with the ''same'' edit summary as her first revert: "opinion and unsupported by the linked article". That edit summary made sense the first time, when you had only one source, not the second time, when you had two. What about it, Maria, did you not see that there were two sources the second time? ], you ; yes, Giano had violated the 3RR rule, and we know it's a "bright line"; but don't you think the actions of the reverting users worth remarking on at all? ] | ] 18:02, 3 May 2015 (UTC). | |||
| : Indeed, I will add now the remark. There were three reverting users, now of whom crossed 3RR's--] (]) 18:05, 3 May 2015 (UTC) | |||
| ::Bishonen, you're an admin and you really think that a link to Misplaced Pages arbcom case is an appropriate reference?! Especially a case that is being held in camera, and has not yet been decided, so there is nothing to see on the ] but the statements of various Misplaced Pages editors. ] (]) 18:12, 3 May 2015 (UTC) | |||
| ::: I left a justification at AN3, just to reiterate now that I blocked the user for five reverts, not for the content of the reverts which may be good or bad. The piece contained two sources, one of them RS, and need to be properly discussed.--] (]) 18:16, 3 May 2015 (UTC) | |||
| *If I may chime in Giano, I think part of the problem could perhaps be said to be that you didn't use an edit summary in the first couple of edits. Had you described exactly what you were doing/why you were doing it, it is ''possible'' that you would've had more support/less opposition. Far from a guarantee, but a possibility. ] ] 18:15, 3 May 2015 (UTC) | |||
| Best regards,<br>] (]) 04:04, 7 July 2024 (UTC) | |||
| {{reply to | BabelStone}} You've misunderstood two things: | |||
| # an admin is not expected to have any greater knowledge of content policies than any other experienced user; | |||
| # there are occasions where a Misplaced Pages page can be a reliable source. | |||
| Here's what the relevant guideline says: | |||
| * {{tq|self-published media ... are largely not acceptable. This includes any website whose content is largely user-generated, including ... collaboratively created websites such as wikis}} - ] | |||
| So in general we disqualify Misplaced Pages as a reliable source. But the guideline goes on to say: | |||
| * {{tq|Self-published or questionable sources may be used as sources of information about themselves, especially in articles about themselves, without the requirement that they be published experts in the field, so long as the following criteria are met: The material is neither unduly self-serving nor an exceptional claim; It does not involve claims about third parties (such as people, organizations, or other entities); It does not involve claims about events not directly related to the subject; There is no reasonable doubt as to its authenticity; The article is not based primarily on such sources.}} - ] | |||
| Now, unless you can show that Giano's cite breaches one of those five criteria, it is clear that a relevant Misplaced Pages ArbCom page can be used as a source about Misplaced Pages ArbCom. Have a think about that and consider whether you owe 'Shonen an apology. --] (]) 18:34, 3 May 2015 (UTC) | |||
| :::Thank you all for your support (or lack of). However, at the moment I have no wish to be unblocked and edit a project of which I feel thoroughly ashamed to be associated with. Editors such as the admin concerned are picked up, given ridiculous amounts of authority with no idea how to use it or maintain the ethics associated with such power, and then when they cock up are dropped like red hot potatoes and hung out to dry - who takes responsibility for appointing these people to such authority? No one. Politicians, rightly or wrongly, are defamed on the eve of major elections, and who takes responsibility or even cares? No one. It seems to me that Misplaced Pages is just yet another lawless, ungoverned and unaccountable internet site which makes up its rules according to whim and passing political persuasion. <span style="text-shadow:grey 0.2em 0.2em 0.1em; class=texhtml">]</span> ] 19:00, 3 May 2015 (UTC) | |||
| == Arbitration motion regarding Durova == | |||
| * Whoa .. hang on a second. Obviously I'm late to the party, and I'm just a dumb American, but apparently there's an issue here. I see this: | |||
| *Indeed, I will add now the remark. There were three reverting users, now of whom crossed 3RR's--Ymblanter (talk) 18:05, 3 May 2015 (UTC) | |||
| And that tells me that the issue is not with an individual user, but it's a page protection issue. That's "admin 101". {{u|Ymblanter}}, you may want to rethink your approach here. Personally, I don't have a dog in the fight, but it's pretty obvious, and document-able with our WP:RS that there are issues here. If Giano can/does document a BLP something, and he's proven it with refs ... it becomes a real issue when we try to hush that up. Let's not play the "we can't say that on wiki" game please. — <small><span class="nowrap" style="border:1px solid #000000;padding:1px;"><b>]</b> : ]</span></small> 05:05, 4 May 2015 (UTC) | |||
| The Arbitration Committee has resolved by ] that: | |||
| * Ughhh ... I'm looking here, and I'm just seeing the surface. I have no idea what to say here. There is SOOO much being done behind closed doors, and an admin. comes in and blocks for someone who posts what is public knowledge. Block me now if you must, but I'm going to say it outright onwiki ... what you did was one of the asinine knee-jerk things I've seen in a long time. You say 3 other people are violating ... yet I don't see you blocking them. Your actions are reprehensible. You should be blocked for your partisan and foolish actions. — <small><span class="nowrap" style="border:1px solid #000000;padding:1px;"><b>]</b> : ]</span></small> 05:28, 4 May 2015 (UTC) | |||
| {{ivmbox|Principle 2 of ], ''Private correspondence'', is changed from<br>{{tqq|2) In the absence of permission from the author (including of any included prior correspondence) <s>or their lapse into public domain</s>, the contents of private correspondence, including e-mails, should not be posted on-wiki. <s>See Misplaced Pages:Copyrights.</s>}}<br>to<br>{{tqq|2) In the absence of permission from the author (including of any included prior correspondence), the contents of private correspondence, including e-mails, should not be posted on-wiki.}}}} | |||
| *: I strongly disagree with what you write. For the record, I never do anything behind closed door, I am never on IRC or smth. I was patrolling AN3 as I always do. I checked that there was an edit warring in which one user made five reverts, and three other users each one to two reverts. I blocked the user with five, checking first that their reverts are not an exception listed in 3RR. I have never heard about any of these four users before the incident. What I have done was strictly within policies. In the future, before leaving such posts, you may want to learn assuming good faith.--] (]) 05:46, 4 May 2015 (UTC) | |||
| For the Arbitration Committee, | |||
| ::: First apologies for stepping in between Risker's post. I wasn't saying ''YOU'' did or said anything behind closed doors, only that there are developments going ''ON'' behind closed doors. Yes, you can stand behind the "revert" thing, and document it. I simply feel that blocking rather than protecting a volatile page was a very poor choice. All things considered,, I think you made a VERY poor choice. — <small><span class="nowrap" style="border:1px solid #000000;padding:1px;"><b>]</b> : ]</span></small> 06:04, 4 May 2015 (UTC) | |||
| ] ] 23:23, 12 July 2024 (UTC) | |||
| : Discuss this at: '''{{slink|Misplaced Pages talk:Arbitration Committee/Noticeboard|Arbitration motion regarding Durova}}''' | |||
| *An intelligent person would leave that disgraceful episode in Misplaced Pages’s ancient history firmly buried in the past. The posting of that far from private email wasn’t the disgrace. The disgrace was why it was necessary to post it. <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 19:56, 14 July 2024 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
| *I'm going to be the exception here. First off, there are third party sources that refer to the current investigation; there's no need to reference Misplaced Pages pages, and frankly it's rather silly and terribly self-referential. In fact, it's the kind of think Giano would make fun of if someone else did it. More importantly, though, he was ] - it's about Grant Shapps, not Jimmy Wales, and there is absolutely no link between Jimmy Wales, his wedding, and Grant Shapps. It was a BLP violation on so many levels it isn't even funny - and again it is exactly the kind of editing that Giano would be furious about if it had occurred on an article he cared about. I'm quite disappointed that Giano succumbed to the idea that it would create some sort of internal outrage about the situation. It hasn't. ] (]) 05:48, 4 May 2015 (UTC) | |||
| == FAR notice == | |||
| :: Risker, I think you know how much I respect you ... but I'm going to disagree with some points. How on earth is posting document-able facts a BLP violation. Pointy - yes, that's a given. But in this day and age, no. You get caught with your hand in the cookie jar .. you pay the price. Misplaced Pages should never be a platform for political gain ... regardless of country. — <small><span class="nowrap" style="border:1px solid #000000;padding:1px;"><b>]</b> : ]</span></small> 06:11, 4 May 2015 (UTC) | |||
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| :: Oh ... and - I would say that it ''IS'' an article that Giano cares about. Oherwise he wouldn't have bothered editing it. I'm not trying to be a jerk (even though it's something I excel at), I'm just saying that "he doesn't care about the article" comment is not valid. — <small><span class="nowrap" style="border:1px solid #000000;padding:1px;"><b>]</b> : ]</span></small> 06:21, 4 May 2015 (UTC) | |||
| == File:Capone'scastle.jpg listed for discussion == | |||
| :::{{u|Ched}}, why in heaven's name do you think that Jimmy Wales's wedding plans are suitable for publishing in the article about a politician who had nothing to do with them? Why do you think it was at all suitable to include references to Jimmy Wales at all in that article? And...well, bottom line, the reason there is an arbcom case is because there are serious, serious questions about whether or not the article subject did indeed have his hand in the cookie jar. Giano, as to you, I'm not ticked off that you're trying to prove a point; I'm ticked off that you're trying to do it in an article about a living person by implying that another living person was instrumental in skewering the article subject. Make all the points you want in Misplaced Pages space, or other places, but not in articles. Having generally respected Wikipedians screwing around with content that way pretty much devalues the entire project. So yes, I'm angry that you're messing around with articles. One of my better defenses of some of your points was that you didn't screw up articles to get your point across. I can no longer say that. ] (]) 16:25, 4 May 2015 (UTC) | |||
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| :::::] is making a valid point, and I thank her for it: she confirms facts which I have attempting to make, it angers those, such as herself, in Misplaced Pages's upper echelons when the project is asked to hold itself accountable for the actions of those it has raised up. Risker is also correct: I am furious that an article I care about can repeat damaging allegations about a living person, but not strongly stress those allegations are completely unproven. It is also a fact of life that in a written article, a company is frequently linked with its chief executive, founder or owner, or is it that Misplaced Pages is of such unique, global importance it needs no introduction or references? <span style="text-shadow:grey 0.2em 0.2em 0.1em; class=texhtml">]</span> ] 08:00, 4 May 2015 (UTC) | |||
| ::Giano dear, the chief executive of the WMF is ]. That you're so intimately aware of Jimmy Wales's social life concerns me somewhat (although surely not nearly as much as it might concern Wales or his family), but you have no sources at all that suggest that his social circle had anything to do with the wikipedia-related allegations involving the article subject. ] (]) 16:31, 4 May 2015 (UTC) | |||
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File:Bramham Park.gif listed for discussion
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Always precious
Ten years ago, you were found precious. That's what you are, always. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:23, 25 December 2022 (UTC)
Belton House
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Featured Article Save Award for Belton House
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Mail call
You have mail (finally). Bishonen | tålk 09:22, 2 February 2023 (UTC).
Talk:Duke of San Donato
This talk page has remained protected since May 2011, when you were involved in the discussion. Since that month there has been only one edit. Is there a reason that it should remain protected? 67.180.143.89 (talk) 22:29, 1 April 2023 (UTC)
- I think you may be confusing Giano with another editor, and in any case, Giano has not edited since last August. I have unprotected that talk page. Cullen328 (talk) 22:36, 1 April 2023 (UTC)
FAR for Matthew Brettingham
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Season's Greetings
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| Wishing everybody a Happy Holiday Season, and all best wishes for the New Year! The Nativity scene on the Pulpit in the Pisa Baptistery by Nicola Pisano is my Wiki-Christmas card to all for this year. Johnbod (talk) 02:59, 24 December 2023 (UTC) |
Amendment request: Durova
Hello Giano,
As one of the original parties to the "Durova" arbitration case, you may be interested in the current amendment request about the Durova case. A motion has been proposed to modify principle 2 by removing copyright-related wording from it.
Best regards,
~ ToBeFree (talk) 04:04, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
Arbitration motion regarding Durova
The Arbitration Committee has resolved by motion that:
Principle 2 of Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/Durova, Private correspondence, is changed from2) In the absence of permission from the author (including of any included prior correspondence)
or their lapse into public domain, the contents of private correspondence, including e-mails, should not be posted on-wiki. See Misplaced Pages:Copyrights.
to2) In the absence of permission from the author (including of any included prior correspondence), the contents of private correspondence, including e-mails, should not be posted on-wiki.
For the Arbitration Committee, SilverLocust 💬 23:23, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
- Discuss this at: Misplaced Pages talk:Arbitration Committee/Noticeboard § Arbitration motion regarding Durova
- An intelligent person would leave that disgraceful episode in Misplaced Pages’s ancient history firmly buried in the past. The posting of that far from private email wasn’t the disgrace. The disgrace was why it was necessary to post it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.29.238.45 (talk) 19:56, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
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