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{{archive top|Sanctions still apply, conversation is over. --] (]) 20:35, 3 February 2015 (UTC)}} | |||
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If I bring back the page to compliance with NPOV, will your sanctions apply to me, I wouldn't be breaking any of the normal rules, but your rules are unclear to me and should be totally removed. In your current circumstances, for which I extend every sympathy, perhaps you could lift sanctions as they are unenforceable if you cannot be around to interpret them. Nobody appears to be watching the page at the moment or it would have been corrected, but I suppose I'm not surprised that the supporters of this fringe practise aren't putting it right. Actually, perhaps you could sort it out - it wouldn't take long. Anything is better than leaving it. Thanks. -] (]) 17:53, 2 February 2015 (UTC) | |||
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:What would "bring back the page to compliance with NPOV" mean, exactly? --] (]) 20:17, 2 February 2015 (UTC) | |||
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:On reflection, rather than discuss this here, perhaps you could post your suggestion at ] where others could join in? --] (]) 00:06, 3 February 2015 (UTC) | |||
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::why can't I just edit the page like I would normally? I have stopped watching the page itself, I am just checking once a week instead, as I have no desire to interact with those currently watching that page. They do not appear to be AGF editors, or it wouldn't need me. -] (]) 12:12, 3 February 2015 (UTC) | |||
Happy new year 2025, opened with ] that first sounded OTD in 1725 (as the Main page has). - I saw ] by Rimsky-Korsakov, - see ]. -- ] (]) 17:41, 1 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:::As I said, I'd rather not have a prolonged discussion with you here about this. I'll leave you with this thought. If you are unable to assume good faith in other editors, why do you think you are the best person to edit the page? In any case, the best way forward is to propose your edits in article talk and see if you can get a consensus there. --] (]) 15:24, 3 February 2015 (UTC) | |||
:Happy New Year! ] (]) 20:47, 1 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
::::Why do you assume I think I am the best person to edit the page. Stop being obstructive and please do something useful for a change. Thanks. -] (]) 20:25, 3 February 2015 (UTC) | |||
:: Did you listen to the music? (Take the last movement if you have little time, but the yt not the lilypond). --] (]) 21:57, 1 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
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:::Not yet. Home tomorrow. Will try then. ] (]) 00:22, 2 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
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:::: ], my ] 300 years after the first performance, is up for GAN. ] will be my story tomorrow. --] (]) 21:23, 6 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
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::::: Lovely! Keep up the good work. ] (]) 23:18, 6 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:::::: I try ;) - My ] is about a composer who influenced music history also by writing. --] (]) 10:03, 8 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
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:::::::Fascinating. I had never heard of him. ] (]) 17:50, 8 January 2025 (UTC) | ||
:::::::: same for me --] (]) 20:20, 8 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
::::::::: Happy birthday! I'm at a birthday celebration ;) - enjoy! --] (]) 11:34, 11 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
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::::::::: back home - today a violinist from Turkey, ], whom you can watch playing Schubert chamber music --] (]) 21:57, 13 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
{{od}} Thanks! I missed your first message. I had quite a good day. I'll have a look at the article now. ] (]) 22:37, 13 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
: Thank you! - Today, ], ], in memory of her first appearance on stage OTD in 1900, and of principal author ]. --] (]) 18:47, 14 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:I've done that. --] (]) 19:19, 5 February 2015 (UTC) | |||
== Do you think it's ready for FAC? == | |||
Hey there John, | |||
Previously you were kind enough to helpfully copy edit articles that were part of my Quality improvement projects, including: ]s: '']'', '']'', and ]: "]". | |||
Do you think that last one is ready for ] ? | |||
I wanted to get your thoughts, on what the next step in the Quality improvement process for that article should be. | |||
Thanks for your time, | |||
— ''']''' (]) 21:08, 5 February 2015 (UTC) | |||
:So long as you are not in a hurry I am happy to take a look in the next week or so. Thank you for asking. --] (]) 21:21, 5 February 2015 (UTC) | |||
::Nope, I'm not in a hurry, unfortunately I'm quite busy in life these days with other commitments, so take your time. Let me know when you've had a chance and thank you for taking a look, — ''']''' (]) 21:32, 5 February 2015 (UTC) | |||
== User QuackGuru and 'Wall of Shame' activities == | |||
Greetings! I am messaging you because you are familiar with user QuackGuru and his 'Wall of Shame' activities. I've brought couple of incidents to your attention even before, and apparently he is still keeping up with similar behavior. | |||
Technically, ] discusses the term "''Wall of Shame''" to be related to user talk pages. However, user QuackGuru has now merely taken a more public venue by moving from User Talk Pages to Article Talk Pages. Interesting enough, even Kww reprimanded QuackGuru: | |||
== Lake Michigan Monster == | |||
{{quote|QG, drop this line of argument. Consider this an administrative warning. There was a recent RFC. As flawed as the problem statement in that RFC was and as ridiculous as the close was, Middle 8's edits are largely in compliance with it. If you want to find a wording that conforms to the RFC and is a little more forceful than the current statement, feel free to propose it, but bringing up nine-month-old edits in an effort to paint him making those particular edits in bad faith is unreasonable.}} | |||
hey, it has been a while since I have done major work on '']''. I am thinking of putting it up for FA nomination, however I wanted to run by you first to see if all the prose is the high quality it needs to be and if there are parts I should work on. ] (]) 22:04, 5 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:Looks pretty good to me. What does {{u|Ceoil}} think? ] (]) 22:33, 5 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
::He has not been on the past week or so and has not replied to a chat I sent. I guess we will have to wait and see.--] (]) 23:13, 5 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
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:Thank you for the note. I agree that some of their behaviour there raises concerns. I see the user seems to have stopped after a formal warning from ]. Let's hope that sticks or there will have to be more administrative action. --] (]) 17:53, 6 February 2015 (UTC) | |||
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:I am very well thanks, and all the better for seeing another of your fine articles come online. I am going to develop this one a wee bit I think before I let it loose. Give me an hour or so, and I will put it up. I'll ping you when I do. Thank you once again for your work. --] (]) 20:14, 6 February 2015 (UTC) | |||
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*Many thanks, {{u|ToBeFree}} and thanks for the really nice message and carefully crafted template. ] (]) 00:24, 7 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
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Maybe just come after the people who have so egregiously failed WP? You should start with me, I suppose. ] (]) 18:57, 7 February 2015 (UTC) | |||
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:You must not blame yourself, but the idiosyncratic image formatting and image use policy in general, including the map, were faults which a good reviewer should have picked up. We need to go beyond personal feelings and see where we go from here. The problems at the article should be corrected, and there is a need for a shake-up at FAC and (especially) at TFA. --] (]) 21:34, 7 February 2015 (UTC) | |||
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:::I'm sure you're a great reviewer but nobody's perfect. The review process thrives on attracting a variety of people. It just happens nobody on that review noticed the things that have now been brought up. It will get fixed, and you should try not to worry about it. If you want to stay away for a few days, you can achieve that without getting blocked. Take care, --] (]) 21:54, 7 February 2015 (UTC) | |||
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January music
Happy new year 2025, opened with trumpet fanfares that first sounded OTD in 1725 (as the Main page has). - I saw a lovely opera by Rimsky-Korsakov, - see here. -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:41, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
Lake Michigan Monsterhey, it has been a while since I have done major work on Lake Michigan Monster. I am thinking of putting it up for FA nomination, however I wanted to run by you first to see if all the prose is the high quality it needs to be and if there are parts I should work on. Paleface Jack (talk) 22:04, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
+rollbackHi John, as a former administrator and thus obviously also a former rollbacker, you won't need the following information. But getting a permission (and granting it, admittedly) would only be half as enjoyable (to me, admittedly) without the message I customized for this purpose. So I absolutely have to. Feel free to remove it and welcome back! ~ ToBeFree (talk) 22:27, 6 January 2025 (UTC) Hi John, After reviewing your request, I have added your account to the rollback group. Keep in mind these things when using rollback:
To try rollback for the first time, you may like to make an edit to WP:Sandbox, and another one, and another one, and then revert the row with one click. I'm sure you'll do great with rollback, but feel free to leave me a message on my talk page if you run into trouble or have any questions about rollback. Thank you for your time and work in cleaning up Misplaced Pages. Happy editing! Best regards,
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