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| I just kinda revamped the entire article of ] a week or so ago and wanted to know what you think since I haven't seen anyone editing since. I mades section about previous leaders to show a little bit of the history of corruption.--] (]) 07:31, 5 April 2014 (UTC) | |||
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| :It's looking good. Nice work! It might be a good idea to use some recent Economist articles on the topic, as they tend to give a slightly broader view of recent events and a clearer explanation of underlying problems, without getting too hung up on individual political events. ] (]) 21:16, 16 April 2014 (UTC) | |||
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| Just letting you know that I have nominated ] (and thus reverted your redirect) for deletion at ]. Per some of the other users I also agree that the Pan-American Highway is a poor redirect target due to its continental approach and the fact that the ] is essentially the same thing (connection between two continents) and thus arguably as equal as the Pan-Am Highway for redirect. However, I also agree that the page (at the very least in its current form) is not notable and thus have taken it to deletion for a wider discussion and, hopefully, wider consensus. ] 21:00, 16 April 2014 (UTC) | |||
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| ::Don't pretend you don't know what I'm talking about here. You systematically stalk editors and remove the whole of their edits not for objective reasons but because it was THEM who made the edit. You revert _ALL_ of _SEVERAL_ edits in certain articles of me several times - articles which, apparently, you only found by stalking my edit history. In at least TWO instance you merely gave the edit summary: "post-Zozs cleanup", ADMITTING that you were doing this merely because it was me. Other users have accused you of the same thing in the past. Don't throw stuff like at me because you know exactly what's going on. I don't want to see you removing an obviously objectively positive edit of me (I had even been "thanked" by other users for it through the Misplaced Pages edit thanking feature) spanning several paragraphs again without giving a thorough explanation in the talk page. ] (]) 20:08, 20 May 2014 (UTC) | |||
| ::Wow, you just tried to remove 25,000 bytes from that economic policy article again, merely using the the edit summary: "Post-Zozs cleanup", indicating that it specifically targeted my edits, even though every other editor in the article has opposed your edit, and immediately reverted it every time you've tried to do it. So this is at least THREE instances you're removing stuff merely using the edit summary: "Post-Zozs cleanup". If this is not vandalism then I don't know what is. ] (]) 20:18, 20 May 2014 (UTC) | |||
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| The next time you accuse me of stalking we'll take it up at AN/I.--]<sup>]</sup><sub>]</sub> 00:01, 19 June 2014 (UTC) | |||
| :*Are you sure you want to do that? I have a few interesting diffs, ready to go, but is it really necessary to keep on escalating the debate? There is clearly no consensus to treat RT as a reliable source; sniping at the folk who disagree with you, and following them round to - on controversial topics, isn't going to help. | |||
| :*It was quite funny when you derided me as a "new editor" on RSN, even though I have experience there than . And when you accused me of pushing an agenda on a topic that I have, in reality, carefully avoided. And when you irrational questions whilst also banning me from replying. The answer to that one is "''You , on your own talkpage''"; if you're angry with me about things that you typed on your own talkpage a few minutes earlier, it might be time to step away from the keyboard for a bit. | |||
| :] (]) 00:25, 19 June 2014 (UTC) | |||
| ::First of all, I never said that you were a "new" editor in the RS/N thread.--]<sup>]</sup><sub>]</sub> 00:27, 19 June 2014 (UTC) | |||
| :I'm about to log off for this evening, myself, and I think that everyone here would do well to "step away from the keyboard for a bit". --] (]) 00:32, 19 June 2014 (UTC) | |||
| ::Wise words from Tryptofish, as ever. :-) | |||
| ::I'll go offline for a few hours. ] (]) 00:35, 19 June 2014 (UTC) | |||
| Compare and contrast: | |||
| {{talkquote|newcomers like ]|Ubikwit|ts=22:51, 18 June 2014|oldid=613483742}} | |||
| {{talkquote|new editors--including bobrayner--started coming out of the woodwork|Ubikwit|ts=00:10, 19 June 2014|oldid=613491689}} | |||
| {{talkquote|I never said that you were a "new" editor|Ubikwit|ts=01:27, 19 June 2014|oldid=613498853}} | |||
| {{talkquote|What are you babbling about? When did I call you a "new editor"?|Ubikwit|ts=01:09, 19 June 2014|oldid=613497019}} | |||
| And yet ''you'' accuse ''me'' of being incompetent. If you insist on starting another AN/I thread, I have many more diffs to offer. Including more stalking. ] (]) 22:43, 19 June 2014 (UTC) | |||
| ::My reading is that Bob is taking it to mean new editing accounts, whereas Ubikwit is taking it to mean editors new to a particular discussion. --] (]) 22:50, 19 June 2014 (UTC) | |||
| :::I do appreciate your effort to pour oil on troubled waters; but those are four mutually contradictory complaints by the same editor - such self-contradiction can hardly be caused by different editors taking the words to mean different things. ] (]) 23:16, 19 June 2014 (UTC) | |||
| ::::If I'm right about the sense in which he meant it, then it's not contradictory. I'm not defending everything about it, by a mile, but just pointing out that you might not be hearing him correctly. (And, for the record, I have no connection to BP. {{(:}} ) --] (]) 23:27, 19 June 2014 (UTC) | |||
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| I wouldn't be surprised if the user in question is a sock puppet of who was previously blocked for numerous attacks on the article and other users. If a sock puppet, the user has refined his methods and learnt to keep his calm, and is now trying to undermine the credibility of the topic (]) by introducing blatant POV which is worthless even in the sense of POV, and which all the more disturbingly is defended by established ] and on the ]. <font face="Chiller">]</font></font> ϡ <small>(])</small> 02:21, 23 June 2014 (UTC) | |||
| :Yes, I saw the edit, and I beleave it should be in the article as it is sourced. It is said who says what and it is up to the readers to have all the info available. ] (]) 04:04, 23 June 2014 (UTC) | |||
| ::We don't cite opinions simply because someone has them. The person making them must be relevant to the subject, such as a scholar. Is that so hard to grip? Yet worse, the sources stem from a Marxist-Leninist partisan organization supportive of Slobodan Milosevic and who considers the US responsible for "destroying Yugoslavia". It is obvious that you sympathise with the largely "pro-Serb" POV emanating from these sources, but that is not a good reason to push the material and try to undermine the article's credibility by fringe POV. <font face="Chiller">]</font></font> ϡ <small>(])</small> 05:04, 23 June 2014 (UTC) | |||
| :::The issue has been raised ]. <font face="Chiller">]</font></font> ϡ <small>(])</small> 07:56, 23 June 2014 (UTC) | |||
| ::::Replied. Thanks for the pointer. I knew those edits were suspicious, but there are so many different sockpuppets... ] (]) 23:17, 23 June 2014 (UTC) | |||
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| :Not sure it counts as an edit-war if I only make one edit. And that's not just an IP; it's Ifersen editing whilst logged out. ] (]) 19:54, 24 June 2014 (UTC) | |||
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| Both Sergey and I were in contact with Benjamin Warr at the time of your deletion of the Ayres-Warr model and we apologized to him. Sergey and I were ashamed to be Wikipidea editors regarding this.] (]) 23:57, 26 June 2014 (UTC) | |||
| :You should be ashamed of your misuse of sources. | |||
| :I didn't delete the article. ] deleted it, after ] that it fell short of our standards. If you want to make me a proxy for all the other people who found problems in your editing, or if you do not understand that other editors were involved even though you interacted with them, I can live with that. ] (]) 00:13, 27 June 2014 (UTC) | |||
| == RSN regarding Ungor == | |||
| Sorry, I'm having trouble trying to find out what exactly your argument is. As you may know, the RSN is strictly used investigate sources and see whether they are reliable or not. Do you think that Ungor's source is unreliable? If so, for what reason(s)? Ungor makes no secret on page 132 that Sabanci took up the opportunity of the void of Armenian competition after the Armenians had suffered a genocide in the region. Bugra repeats the same information in her study as well. | |||
| So can you tell me how the text in the bold: | |||
| {{quotation|The Sabancı (and Koç) family, like many of today's Turkish entrepreneurs, '''benefited from the aftermath of the Armenian Genocide and the elimination of the Armenians and the Armenian competition''' by taking part in takeovers of old minority-run ventures, which were encouraged by the government.}} | |||
| Here's another proposal I am willing to put forth: | |||
| {{quotation|Omer Sabanci, the progenitor of the Sabancı family, moved from his native Kayseri to Adana in the early 1920s. While in Adana, Sabanci took up the opportunity to expand his business when much of the local competition from Armenians was reduced as a result of the Armenian Genocide. Sabanci, with encouragement of the government, eventually took part in takeovers of old minority-run ventures.}} | |||
| Is any different from what Ungor states: | |||
| {{quotation|In 2003 Turkey exported 200,000 bales of cotton. Although it would be quite hard to calculate exactly what percentage of this production was generated on fields confiscated from Armenians, we might get an idea of the level of economic development from '''one, famous example.''' | |||
| '''The Sabanci family is Turkey's modern rags-to-riches success story.''' Its patriarch, Hacı Ömer Sabancı (1906–1966), began working as a cotton picker in Adana. Later he became a broker for cotton harvesters and entered the cotton trade. In 1932 Sabancı became a co-owner of a cotton spinning plant, and his success took off from there. He established a cotton ginning mill in 1950. The Sabancı Holding was established in 1966 and moved from Adana to Istanbul in 1974. Nowadays, the holding is the largest firm in Turkey. It operates in 15 countries, employs 60,000 people, owns a university, 70 leading companies and has many joint ventures with large western firms. Its revenue in 2008 was US$20,000 billion, its net income in 2009 was US$3.2 billion. Moreover, Sabancı has continued to produce textiles, including cotton products. In 1971 it founded Teksa Cotton and Synthetic Yarn, Velvet Weaving and Finishing Inc., which in 1993 merged into Bossa. Bossa is one of the largest textile firms in Turkey; its revenue in 2009 was US$164.1 million. | |||
| '''These examples must stand for many Turkish entrepreneurs who benefitted from the Armenian Genocide''' either directly by CUP donations or '''indirectly from the economic void left by the elimination of Armenian competition.'''}} | |||
| Or what Bugra states: | |||
| {{quotation|"In the early 1920s, Haci Omer went to Adana, a relatively rich town in the cotton-gorwing region of Southern Anatolia, to seek his fortune. At that period, there were many workers from Kayseri who, like Haci Omer, were attracted by the opportunities provided by cotton farming and industry. Among them there were also rich merchants of Kayseri who had been led to Adana commercial and industrial '''establishments left idle after the emigration of their Greek and Armenian owners. Such takeovers were encouraged by the government,''' and those who had connections with the governments authorities could '''benefit greatly''' from these opportunities. Haci Omer was not an important man with such connections, but '''he benefitted''' from the same circumstances indirectly, through the ties of "fellow townsmenship" which can be very important in Turkey. Although he was too modest to be delegated a direct responsibility in the mission of indigenization of the economy, through acquaintanceship with families from Kayseri, '''he has taken some part in the takeover of old minority-run ventures in Adana.'''}} | |||
| And if you think Ungor says something entirely different, can you please let me know what you believe he's saying? In other words, can you find a proposal sentence that will convey what you believe Ungor asserts? ] (]) 01:10, 27 June 2014 (UTC) | |||
| :It's not my job to write content for you. I merely responded to a thread on the reliable sources noticeboard. Let me correct any misunderstanding: Editors on the Reliable Sources noticeboard are likely to investigate whether particular wording is supported by particular sources, and when there's a sourcing dispute that will often intersect with neutrality problems too. In this case, there is unseemly enthusiasm to say as directly as possible that a group of people profited from genocide, when the sources are a little more circumspect. ] (]) 01:18, 27 June 2014 (UTC) | |||
| ::Yes, and it appears that this has more to do with how the source is presented rather than the source itself. The wording in the article is as close as it can get to the wording of the source. In fact, the exact same terminology is used (i.e. "benefited", "taking part in takeovers of old minority-run ventures", and etc.) I actually think that the terminology is so alike that there can be paraphrasing issues here. My proposal sentence uses much softer language and avoids such paraphrasing complications. In fact, I find the language even softer than the sources themselves. So since there's no issue in terms of reliability with the sources, the proposal sentences can be a suitable compromise. The proposal clearly states that it was in the aftermath of the Armenian Genocide and that it was a suitable environment to build businesses due to the lack of competition from the Armenians who had formerly worked the region. If you find any further discrepancies in the proposal from what the source says, please let me know. ] (]) 01:31, 27 June 2014 (UTC) | |||
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| See and the wikihounding ]. Evidence is piling up for an ANI. I'm getting fed up with this. <font face="Chiller">]</font></font> ϡ <small>(])</small> 10:46, 27 June 2014 (UTC) | |||
| :I know both of you love me very much, but I wan´t be able to be much around in the next few weeks because of personal issues. That edit was becaue of lack of time, I confused him with another Cohen, apologies, o right? That is why I will only return to edit those subjects when I find myself with more time to analise properly all sources. You can report me if you have nothing better to do. Regards to both, ] (]) 12:15, 27 June 2014 (UTC) | |||
| == Why did you delete the "Spengler's civilizational model page"? == | |||
| I would like an explanation.{{unsigned|Logic12345}} | |||
| :Various other editors were involved. The page . We still have articles on ] and ], which is more than enough. ] (]) 10:26, 28 June 2014 (UTC) | |||
| ::The table summarizes the whole book. This deleted page has been cited at multiple blogs. I myself must have cited this page over 20 times. | |||
| ::"We still have articles on the book and the author, which is more than enough." | |||
| ::This table is VERY useful. I think you and the editors have arrived at a subjective opinion regarding the lack of importance of this wonderful and highly insightful article. | |||
| ::Where can I discuss about this with all the editors so we can come up with a resolution. | |||
| :: {{unsigned|Logic12345}} | |||
| :::If you can't find it anywhere else, that's a very good reason we shouldn't have it on wikipedia. ] (]) 18:57, 28 June 2014 (UTC) | |||
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| Hi Bobrayner. I was wondering if you had time if I could ask you to take a look . I put together an acquisition table like the ones you see on many of the "List of acquisitions" articles for a company where I have a conflict of interest and was hoping an impartial editor will find the best way to incorporate it (separate article, sub-section, etc.). ] (]) 15:19, 30 June 2014 (UTC) | |||
| :I've responded there. Thanks for chipping in! ] (]) 23:24, 30 June 2014 (UTC) | |||
| ::Oh, I miss working on business and strategy. Now I seem to spend half my life dealing with political POV-pushers; the watchlist has become a chore, and Qualcomm is blessed relief. Am happy for that list to go live with minimal change - will do that shortly. ] (]) 01:21, 1 July 2014 (UTC) | |||
| :::I was recently pretty rude to a couple POV pushers. I spent three months fighting off a political POV pusher on one page and another 3 months fighting off an army of paid accounts on another (including established editors that were bribed) and my patience has grown thin. I've also gained an extremely jaded point-of-view after seeing so many complex manipulation schemes by POV pushers - but I need to hang around ] a bit more so their AGF can smear off on me and I can regain my innocence a little. I have to remember that I was basically a POV pusher myself once. | |||
| :::I also have a bunch of other articles where I have a COI and could use your help. will be a monster, but I've also got an easy Request Edits and a discussion that I think needs an AfD nom to figure out where consensus lies (or at least some pretty heavy-handed trims to see what's left) - a re-write of a POV-pusher-written section proposed with a side-by-side comparison of the current and proposed versions. But my needs for collaboration on articles where I have a COI are so bottomless, I could keep an editor busy all day ;-) ] (]) 18:54, 1 July 2014 (UTC) | |||
| ::::] is an inspiration to us all. I'll have a look at those links. ] (]) 22:12, 2 July 2014 (UTC) | |||
| :::::Speaking of my complaints of having such a hard time finding editors to collaborate with since North8000 was banned and candle blocked, etc. someone already answered most of those, which is actually extremely prompt and makes my whining make me look like kind of a jerk. The is still one with unclear consensus and no clear go-forward item. I think an AfD is needed to find out where consensus is, though Atama suggested trimming all the non encyclopedic material and seeing what's left. ] (]) 16:10, 4 July 2014 (UTC) | |||
| ::::::Oh, there are a few people around here who look like jerks, but you're certainly not one of them. ] ] (]) 18:06, 4 July 2014 (UTC) | |||
| :::::::Well... sometimes I am one of them ;-). You may have noticed it if you added Qualcomm to your watchlist, but seems to be adding criticisms of Qualcomm citing a blog post, a forum, and what appears to be a one-man Linux enthusiast site. ] (]) 19:05, 4 July 2014 (UTC) | |||
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| :Stop movewarring. If you want to make a controversial move, use ]. You know the rules; other people follow the rules; it's time for you to start complying too. ] (]) 15:48, 20 July 2014 (UTC) | |||
| ==Edit war assistance== | |||
| Hello again Bob. Not trying to canvass or anything but I need assistance with some edit warring between a user named Riothero and I. I have went to the boards and seeked assistance but they didn't really assist at all. Since you are one of the first users and most trusted, I figured you could assist me. Thanks for everything already.--] (]) 22:06, 16 July 2014 (UTC) | |||
| ::If I'm doing something wrong, let me know as well. I always have something to learn. If you could, please check some of my edits and see what is going on.--] (]) 22:38, 16 July 2014 (UTC) | |||
| :::: No need to ]. ''I'' am the one you should be talking to. I confess I am also sometimes too quick to dismiss this as an option. Although I provide you with what I think are ''valid'' reasons for reverting those edits in my edit summaries, I will make an effort to explain my concerns on an article's talk page. All we need to do is follow ] more diligently. (FYI, edit wars begin when one responds to a revert by ''reverting again'', rather than taking the discussion to the talk pages.)--] (]) 16:35, 17 July 2014 (UTC) | |||
| :::::::Alright, thank you Riothero.--] (]) 20:14, 17 July 2014 (UTC) | |||
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| Sorry for not replying earlier - I've been busy at work. Please be careful to avoid ]. ] (]) 14:25, 20 July 2014 (UTC) | |||
| ::I tried to just ask for advice, that is why I said I wasn't trying to canvas above. I know you have been here longer and have gone through this so I decided to ask you. Anyways, I think we figured things out, but thanks for replying.--] (]) 23:58, 21 July 2014 (UTC) | |||
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| == ] → ] == | |||
| Hi, I noticed that last September you had erased the article ] and made it to redirect to ]. Problem is, the Baltic Shield is a geological feature, and Fennoscandia a geographical. Your comment was "seems to be a copy & paste job"; the whole article was copypasted? From where? —] (]) 10:06, 8 August 2014 (UTC) | |||
| :Hi, | |||
| :It's part of ]. Unfortunately, ]'s only recent edit has been to blank copyright warnings from their talkpage. ] (]) 13:26, 9 August 2014 (UTC) | |||
| == Cretan Resistance == | |||
| Bob, this isn't about 'Weight of Chains', though thankyou for your involvement there and across Malagurski-land. | |||
| I'm contacting you as to ask for advice about ]. I first noticed serious issues over a year ago. The issues are ''(I think)'' blatant synth, coatrack ''(devoting half the article to how really the British caused the Gk Civil War, which followed)'', use of questionable sources ''(all translated by the editor himself)'' and definite PoV in both presentation and choice of material. | |||
| I'm reluctant to simply 'mass delete', partly because of feeling out of my depth on the subject itself, but also because there may be wheat among the chaff. I've put out a call for help on the Greece project page, but so far no response. Any suggestions as to how to get some help? This isn't an 'edit conflict', since the editor responsible doesn't respond to questions, ''(having done his damage, he seems happy to disappear, though he is still an editor)'', but there is a need for help from someone who knows more about the subject than me and knows more about what ''(in a Greek context)'' is/is not a RS.] (]) 12:51, 14 August 2014 (UTC) | |||
| :I'll have a look. I think you're right. | |||
| :Simply cutting out problematic text is easy, unless (a) the pov-pusher is actively reverting, or (b) it's misrepresenting sources and you want to replace it with something ''better''. We have problem B here. ] (]) 17:34, 17 August 2014 (UTC) | |||
| Bob, thanks, I tried to start removing synth but, in places, whole sections of the page are dependent on that synth. No the editor isn't around and hasn't responded to my attempts to engage ''(he isn't Greek by the way, but appears to have the 'zeal of the convert')''. | |||
| I don't know if you had time to look at the talk page, but I attempted to detail there the problematic sources ''(in one case the source IS a noted German-Greek historian, but the text is cited (in Greek) as the abbreviation for the Public library of Heraklion, who's the publisher? when/if published? etc., but most of the sources are simply blogs)''. | |||
| It's more a question of finding someone who knows more about the subject than me ''(and preferably is fluent in Greek)''. If no 'white knight' appears, I may have to delete whole sections and see what happens!] (]) 18:41, 17 August 2014 (UTC) … … UPDATE, I took the 'drastic route' (major surgery), but thanks for taking a look.] (]) 15:57, 23 August 2014 (UTC) | |||
| == Warning == | |||
| Next time you make major controversial changes without consensus as you did in you´ll be reported. ] (]) 21:41, 21 August 2014 (UTC) | |||
| :Also, next time I see you removing the status label as recomended there, I´ll also report you for that as well. The consensus is clear by now, and all should apply it. If you dislike it, open a discussion first. ] (]) 21:45, 21 August 2014 (UTC) | |||
| ::Yes, yes, we know you can hit the revert button repeatedly. That does not make a consensus. There is no consensus for the guideline to require that template. ] (]) 16:43, 30 August 2014 (UTC) | |||
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| == Weight of Chains == | |||
| Blimey ! Even looking at your talk page gives me a headache ! | |||
| Now this IS about Malagurski-land. I don't know if you've been following the latest dramas, but I would welcome any input you feel able to make. I'm considering some kind of Admin intervention on the 'owner' of ]. ] (]) 01:51, 28 August 2014 (UTC) | |||
| :I would strongly support that. Others have tried it before, although the closure of the thread at ] was just bizarre; for instance Uzma Gamal's insistence that we have to ] an editor before any action can be taken on COI editing. ] (]) 16:07, 30 August 2014 (UTC) | |||
| ::Thanks, yes I got 'sucked in' at the periphery of the COIN enquiry and knew about it ''(and another one around the same time)''. At the risk of 'tempting fate', the knee-jerk reverting has slowed down in the last few days, and the abuse quotient slipped also. If normal behaviour patterns return, I think there are grounds for a behaviour complaint, of which one-sided editing would simply be a factor. | |||
| ::As I understand it, 2 editors need to have raised behaviour on talk for a complaint to go forward, you have implicitly criticised and in your 'pithy' edit reasons implied behaviour issues, but not explicitly commented in recent times. I have recently, repeatedly and clearly complained of behaviour.] (]) 16:51, 30 August 2014 (UTC) | |||
| :::Me again, I was intending to contact you anyhow re: firstly whether it is STILL your conviction that 'Canadian' should be removed from description on WoC page ''(UrbanVillager having rejected or ignored several compromises)''… … secondly, to ask if you have any advise as to how to proceed ''(I think there are ample grounds for complaint on user behaviour, this seems the appropriate section)''. BUT, before I did that, events got ahead of me, here:-. I had anyway called a 'truce' with UV as he was getting totally out of hand in removing whole sections of the article. If you can bear it, 'discussion' is here:-, Here:-, and ''(longest, oldest)'' Here:-. ] (]) 15:47, 5 September 2014 (UTC) | |||
| == Stop == | |||
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| :By "some system filter", you mean an editor who was banned for making controversial edits that push the same POV as yours? Good luck with that. ] (]) 16:01, 30 August 2014 (UTC) | |||
| ::What are you talking about? There was a warring above, with some info "system filter noticed that you want to give a warning, bla, bla, bla, this user is already warned... ... and like that. It was in red box. --'''<font face="Perpetua" size="3">] (])</font>''' 19:36, 30 August 2014 (UTC) | |||
| :::What are you talking about? No "system filter" said . | |||
| :::Quit stalking me. If you are unable to edit neutrally, the ability to edit may be removed entirely. ] (]) 19:50, 30 August 2014 (UTC) | |||
| ::::You obviously didnt understand again. You should be warned with the same thing you wanted to give me, but wikipedia does not allow me to send you that by some system filter. First sentence is from the thing i found about the thing you want to call stalking. violations of Misplaced Pages policy are not stalking. So, you should stop follow thing i read on wiki, and you will not should edit against wikipedia policy. --'''<font face="Perpetua" size="3">] (])</font>''' 20:54, 30 August 2014 (UTC) | |||
| :::::Stop stalking me. It's quite simple. ] (]) 22:11, 30 August 2014 (UTC) | |||
| == Participatory Economics == | |||
| Hi Bobrayner, I responded to you on the Participatory Economics talk page. I don't know if you got a notification or not and I didn't know another way to contact you so I hope you don't mind me leaving a message on your talk page. I believe you are misguided in reference to the link I would like to add. Could you please respond to me so we can clear this up? Thanks, River Orange. --] (]) 17:23, 1 September 2014 (UTC) | |||
| :{{u|River Orange}} kindly have the decency to always sign your contributions with the four tides.You commited the same blunder <span class="plainlinks"></span> but am ready to forgive you today. Regarding participatory economics, every discussion related to the article should be on the article talk page. just leave your comments there. If you need the attention of a specific editor simply ping him/her with { {Ping|name of editor} }. ] (]) 18:26, 1 September 2014 (UTC) | |||
| ::Wikicology, no need to be so firm. River Orange isn't very experienced around here, and wikipedia has a steep learning curve. I might disagree with River Orange on a bit of content - and content is the most important thing of all - but I'm not going to criticise minor wikitext issues. By the way, are you familiar with ]? By convention, the first reply in a thread should be indented with a single colon, then the second reply with two colons, and so on. ] (]) 19:21, 1 September 2014 (UTC) | |||
| ::: am uncertain as to your understanding of ]. My initial comment here has nothing to do with critisms but correction. Kindly note that Experience come into play when you make a mistake learn from it through correction.] (]) 19:59, 1 September 2014 (UTC) | |||
| ::::Oh! I had assumed that you understood what you were typing. Let me simplify. | |||
| ::::#You criticised River Orange for forgetting to sign the first talkpage comments they ever made. | |||
| ::::#In doing so, here failed ], as well as giving River Orange misleading guidance about talkpages - and you even with your own made-up rules. | |||
| ::::#You complained about River Orange failing to use markup ''which you can't even spell''. | |||
| ::::#You also failed to transclude the welcome template which you . | |||
| ::::#Your includes a remarkable series of blunders, failing to satisfy the most basic principles of English-language spelling, punctuation, and capitalisation. | |||
| ::::I would not normally point out such blunders, but what's sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander. Am ready to forgive you today, but the next time I catch you ] new editors, there will be trouble. New editors are the lifeblood of wikipedia, and you do ''not'' score any points for criticising their newness. I'm sure you do other tasks which are a net benefit to wikipedia; perhaps you could concentrate on those instead. ] (]) 20:41, 1 September 2014 (UTC) | |||
| :::::*How was your night my friend {{u|Bobrayner}}? I guessed it was fine. Am sincerely sorry if you find my behaviour annoying last night. It is not in my character to bite newbies, having understand quiet well that they are the bedrock of wikipedia and wikipedia vetrans were at one time new editor. I appreciates your corrections and I will learn from it. Once again, accept my unreserved apology. ] (]) 07:13, 2 September 2014 (UTC) | |||
| ::::::Hi Bobrayner, hope you are well. Could you please reply to me on the Participatory Economics talk page to discussion the external link suggestion? I think the link meets wiki guidelines and so does Wikicology. Also, I don't think you've given an argument (or a good one) to not include it in the external link section. All the best and I look forward to hearing from you.--] (]) 08:53, 5 September 2014 (UTC) | |||
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