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| <big>Welcome to my talk page, please leave new messages at the bottom of this page</big> | |||
| ==Vivek Oberoi== | |||
| Welcome to my talk page, please leave new messages below. | |||
| Mark, I actually provided a source for the Personal life edit. Here is the source below. http://www.mid-day.com/photos/b-town-specials/love-affairs-that-went-sour/ash-vivek/ | |||
| A large part of his career is missing from the time he started acting from the time he got married. The edit I made covers that aspect of his career. | |||
| :In , I didn't see any indication that it was sourced. Please remember to cite a source with each addition to a biography, per our ] guideline. ] (]) 16:20, 24 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
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== complaint from admins == | ||
| Hello Mark. I have a question. how can i complaint from wikipedia`s admins? iranian admins deleted a page that was constructed 6 years ago. They do not do their tasks properly and insult me.They do not know the rules of wikipedia and act in a taste. What should i do? they deleted an old page belong to a great musician.] (]) 16:07, 20 September 2018 (UTC) | |||
| == Formula for differential cross section == | |||
| You need to note that the IP has continued to edit-war, inserting his proposed changes without meaningful discussion - he posted something on Talk and then immediately implemented changes without gaining consensus, in the face of three editors who have rejected his claim that "stereotype" is a POV word. ] (]) 13:35, 11 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| :As soon as somebody other than you reverts me, then I'll be happy to wait. ] (]) 14:05, 11 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| ::So basically you're committed to edit-warring to get your POV in, rather than working to convince other editors that your proposal is acceptable. ] (]) 14:42, 11 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| :::It's more like I'm sick of you reverting me wherever you can so I require somebody else to before leaving it alone. ] (]) 14:54, 11 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| *You two are both edit warring and will probably be blocked if you keep it up. Take it to the talk page. ] (]) 16:34, 11 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| Hey Mark, you gave a formula for differential cross section in particle physics on 17:56, 4 March 2017 in the page "" in the section "Classical scattering" which has since moved into the section "]" as of today. I am curious how this happened, it seems wrong. :<math> \frac{\mathrm{d} \sigma}{\mathrm{d}(\cos \theta)} = \frac{1}{2\pi} \int_0^{2\pi} \frac{\mathrm{d} \sigma}{\mathrm{d} \Omega} \,\mathrm{d}\varphi </math> | |||
| == Grace Sherwood FA == | |||
| Thank you from PSky and Wehwalt for your comment and review of this recently successful FAC. ] ] 20:26, 11 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| :My pleasure, congratulations on the promotion. ] (]) 20:38, 11 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| == Turn-off article feedback tool == | |||
| The starting equations are <math>\mathrm{d}\sigma = b \,\mathrm{d}\varphi \mathrm{d}b</math> and <math>\mathrm{d}\Omega = \sin\theta \, \mathrm{d}\theta \, \mathrm{d}\varphi</math>. | |||
| Hey mark, I accidently turned-on the article feedback tool on the ] article. Can you please let me know how to '''turn it off'''? Thanks -- ] ] | |||
| :I turned it back off. Not sure how to do it as a non-admin though. I should look into that. ] (]) 20:38, 11 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| ::Thank you so much man! ] -- ] ] 20:39, 11 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| :::You disabled it strongly enough that only an admin can re-enable it now. To disable it as a regular user, click "View feedback" in the Toolbox, then the gear in the top right corner, then "Disable feedback." Can you re-enable it through the protection interface and then disable it that way, so that if a regular user wants to re-enable it in the future, they can? ] (]) 21:55, 11 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| ::::Ok, I disabled it that way. ] (]) 14:25, 12 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| :::::It ended up super-disabled again. ] (]) 03:00, 13 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| ::::::Well, I used the view feedback -> gear -> disable process, so I'm not sure what to tell you. ] (]) 03:37, 13 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| If <math>\mathrm{d}(\cos \theta)</math> is required, <math>\mathrm{d}\Omega = \sin\theta \, \mathrm{d}\theta \, \mathrm{d}\varphi = \, \mathrm{d}(-\cos\theta) \, \mathrm{d}\varphi</math>. So, <math>\mathrm{d}(\cos\theta) = -\mathrm{d}\Omega/\mathrm{d}\varphi</math>. Now the correct equation should be :<math> \frac{\mathrm{d} \sigma}{\mathrm{d}(\cos \theta)} = -\frac{\mathrm{d} \sigma}{\mathrm{d} \Omega} \,\mathrm{d}\varphi </math>, without any integration and with the minus sign. Do correct me if and where I went wrong. <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 11:09, 2 November 2017 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
| == Devyn Rose == | |||
| == Deletion "Sambhav Ratnakar" == | |||
| A page was created for musician ] last year and I was asked to provide/establish notability. Her single "Want It All" is in rotation on the following commercial radio stations in the US via reliable tracking source ] | |||
| Hey Mark, you deleted a page named, ] a while ago. Please consider revisiting since the deletion took place a while ago and notability of the person has since increased. Here's him on , amongst many other sources. | |||
| *]-FM | |||
| ] (]) 09:48, 29 November 2016 (UTC) | |||
| *]-FM | |||
| :Well, simply writing a blog on the Huffington Post isn't quite enough for an article. Has he received significant coverage from media sources? See ] for our guidelines on the issue. Thanks, ] (]) 14:27, 29 November 2016 (UTC) | |||
| *]-FM | |||
| *]-FM | |||
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| Hey Mark, thank you for your prompt reply. From what I can find, he has written a book, (recognised by Google), writes for numerous newspapers and magazines, including DailyO, YouthKiAwaaz, NewsLaundry and his articles have recieved significant notability, being acknowledged by a prime ministerial candidate, current Chief Minister of Delhi and numerous other celebrities, including Vishal Dadlani. His articles on social media propoganda intitiated by political parties are widely appreciated and commenced a retaliation against unethical means of promotion employed by polticial parties in India. His book has been reviewed by leading newspapers<ref>http://dubeat.com/2015/09/book-review-the-covert-perspective-by-sambhav-ratnakar/</ref>. He has been dubbed as in india. He has also founded a ] which is "aimed at connecting writers with readers" and contains some of India's most respected national bestsellers..<ref>http://www.theunder18.com/sambhav-ratnakar/</ref> I understand that notability is isolated to south-east asia, specifically India and so some sources/ news coverage might be in an Indian language which might be a reason why notability was not recognised. | |||
| Please advise as I would like to recreate the wiki and add this information. | |||
| ] (]) |
] (]) 16:33, 29 November 2016 (UTC) | ||
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:Hi again, sorry for the late response. I guess the best thing you could do would be to pull together a few of the best sources about him. Try to find ones from the most reputable papers. Basically, what matters here is having a lot of coverage of him in mainstream sources. Books reviews can also help. ] (]) 02:54, 7 December 2016 (UTC) | ||
| Hello, yes, I have and it states that the musician must have at least one of the criterias and she has #11: Has been placed in rotation nationally by a major radio or music television network. She is currently on rotation on 7 major commerical radio stations in the United States. ] (]) 18:46, 17 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| :Ok, you can apply to ] to have the deletion overturned if you like. ] (]) 19:11, 17 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| Thank you for your reply, Mark. The page is protected from creation and can be made by administrators only. Request if you can alter that so I can collate some reliable sources and proceed. Thanks. | |||
| Thanks, I read DRV and it states I should only apply if you and I can't come to a resolution? Is it possible you restore the article to my sandbox and I add the above mentioned for your review before its actually published? Or should I apply anyway? ] (]) 23:03, 17 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| :Ok, the page is now at ] for you to work on. ] (]) 23:07, 17 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| ] (]) 16:33, 7 December 2016 (UTC) | |||
| Thank you Mark, I've made the changes, please review when you have a moment. Will continue to revise in the meantime ] (]) 00:41, 18 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| :Ok, |
:Ok, the best thing to do might be to create ]. Or create a page in your userspace (if you have an account). That way we can see a draft of the article before it goes "live". ] (]) 01:43, 8 December 2016 (UTC) | ||
| == Deletion "Jennifer Leonhardt" == | |||
| Is there someone/somewhere I should post to, to find out? Or can my article be moved to the public space for one of the Wiki reviewers to determine? ] (]) 16:34, 18 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| :Like I said above, if you apply at ] they'll decide if it is sufficient or not. ] (]) 16:36, 18 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| Hello Mark, | |||
| ok, thank you for your help ] (]) 16:48, 18 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| In December 2015 you deleted the above article, citing dead links and that the topic didn't pass WP:GNG and WP:MUSICBIO criteria. There are multiple links that were not included in the review and one of the reviewers used an incorrect spelling of the subject's name in their research in News, Newspapers etc. A brief search revealed that Jennifer Leonhardt is/was included in an independent label list also here on Misplaced Pages for Waterbug Records, as well as their website, the Category:Waldorf school alumni page (now removed since her page was deleted), a listing on AllMusic.com , the reference site for musicians, including a review of her music by their chief music editor, inclusion on Pandora’s Music Genome Project, a SingOut! Magazine review, numerous folk and roots music radio charts, Paste Magazine’s Recommended artists, the WIKI Notable Waldorf Alumni page, the Waldorf School of Baltimore's Notable Waldorf Alumni page on their website, among others, all demonstrate that her notoriety is established and is based on generally available music across all sources (Spotify, iTunes, etc). and so I believe a page describing Jennifer should be undeleted and updated. If you or any other administrators require any further info or sources on her career to help update her page once reinstated, please contact me, I am happy to help. | |||
| Thank you ] (]) 21:59, 3 July 2016 (UTC) | |||
| == Deletion "Jon Barnes" == | |||
| ==Fairfax== | |||
| Hi Mark, | |||
| I have opened discussion on the talk page. He makes reverts anyway, then says the article needs reliable sources when it used to have 6 of them. I guess he removed the sources. I resourced it with a Time article citing the incident. Shouldn't that be relevant enough??? It's in the no contact section. You can read the talk page and see there has been a consensus to not remove it but he did anyway. http://en.wikipedia.org/Fairfax_County_Public_Schools 01:59, 12 September 2013 (UTC) <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) </span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
| In December 2015, you deleted the above article, citing that Jon Barnes was only previously active in national amateur motor racing. However Jon is racing currently - In 2015 and this year, 2016, Jon is racing as a 'Pro' driver in the British GT Championship in a GT3 Aston Martin. As well as having a very successful and relevant early career, Jon is also currently recognised as the sole works driver for Caterham Cars LTD and tests and develops all of their new road and racing cars. A quick search of Misplaced Pages shows just how many other pages contain his name/race results and thus I believe a page describing Jon should be undeleted and updated. If you or any other administrators require any information/sources on his career to help update his page once reinstated, please contact me and I will attempt to help out. | |||
| :Well, you really have to deal with it on the talk page instead of just reverting. See ] for details. You might want to think about an ] too. ] (]) 02:03, 12 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| Best regards ] (]) 19:07, 24 May 2016 (UTC) | |||
| :Sorry for the late response. I'm not too familiar with the notability standards for this subject. The best thing to do would probably be to open a request for undeletion at ]. Thanks, ] (]) 13:32, 4 June 2016 (UTC) | |||
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==Warning== | ||
| Really, you only protected Donald Trump's talkpage only till Friday? Thats a very short wait for us to continue destroying his talkpage (like how hes destroying humanity) ] (]) 00:49, 16 December 2015 (UTC) | |||
| :I don't like to protect talk pages for a long time usually, but I suppose I could be convinced to do so in this case. ] (]) 00:54, 16 December 2015 (UTC) | |||
| ==Bikeheight.com== | |||
| Hi Mark. Thanks much for the unprotection of ]. I also must thank you again for your work on ]. That article was ]ed by church members for years and it's really great to finally have a proper article there. Thanks for the great work. ] (]) 02:14, 12 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| Hey Mark, Pl explain me the reason for deletion of bikeheight.com. Very first bikeheight.com is a complete business portal having more than 20 international bike brands with more than 500 motorcycle and bulk data of dealers, price etc. Its media reference was there which includes AutoCar Professional (Haymarket Group, a famous, British automobile magazine ) report, its promoter Nitin Vats is a celebrity and ex-researcher of Microsoft research, he has been interview by CNN and all big media in the world. We gave proper media references, we linked word to Misplaced Pages internal and external links, it was in proper shape. Pl share us the valid reasons for its deletion. | |||
| :You're welcome! I hadn't realized we had met before when I saw the request, but now I remember you. Always good to see helpful IPs around :) ] (]) 02:16, 12 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| :Can you point out to me to some detailed media attention that Bikeheight.com specifically has received? ] (]) 14:14, 6 December 2015 (UTC) | |||
| *'''http://www.deccanherald.com/content/510401/upload-your-picture-take-virtual.html | |||
| This is the coverage of ], a reputed newspaper of India <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 18:58, 7 December 2015 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
| :That's not a bad source, but we really need more than one article to have a page about it here. ] (]) 02:57, 8 December 2015 (UTC) | |||
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== ] == | ||
| Hello, | |||
| Hi Mark. I want to ask you to delete my ] page. I'm planning to retire and I won't need it any more. Thanks in advance.--] (]) 13:27, 12 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| :{{tps}} User talk pages cannot be deleted at the user's request, because they can contain warnings, etc. posted by other users, and that needs to remain in the public archives (see policy on that ]). You can blank it or replace its content with {{tlx|retired}}, though. ] (]) 15:56, 12 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| ::That's true. Also, user talk pages can "kind of" be deleted if you use the ] process (although the history will still exist, just under a different name). ] (]) 16:39, 12 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| I recreated a category you had speedy deleted for being empty (]). I was able to populate it pretty well but, if you have any concerns, just tag me on my talk page. ] (]) 10:08, 10 September 2015 (UTC) | |||
| == AFD procedure question == | |||
| :No problem, looks good. ] (]) 12:47, 10 September 2015 (UTC) | |||
| == How to insert a photo/file == | |||
| Hi, I notice you closed Intelligent Design (Historical)'s AFD with "Delete". In the future, what does our process say about adding any of that content to ]. After all, merging was a close runner up in the outcome, and was explicitly before you as an option, but you rejected it. Does wiki process allow, or frown, on going ahead and trying to add that to the other article anyway, i.e., after the "merge" option was rejected by the closing admin? No emotion here, just a genuine question about procedure. I probably won't work on it either way. Just seeking education to be a better informed ed. Thanks. Please include wikilinks in any reply. ] (]) 18:55, 13 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| :Well, it's still possible for some of it to be selectively merged. I could undelete the history and leave a redirect if you'd like to take a shot at it. The thing is, though, you'd have to get consensus for your additions first on ] since it's a featured article. Might be tough, but there might be a case for working in some content from the 19th century in ]. ] (]) 19:16, 13 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| ::Thanks for reply, I just wanted procedural edification; I don't have the large amount of time it would take to navigate DR to do that.] (]) 21:55, 13 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| Hi Mark, I have tried to insert files from my laptop but am definitely missing something- even after reading from the Help tips. Can you help? Many thanks and sorry to bother you] (]) 11:36, 18 September 2015 (UTC) | |||
| ==WP:AN3== | |||
| :It has been a while since I did this. Are you using the ]? ] (]) 16:37, 18 September 2015 (UTC) | |||
| . I was just trying rather helplessly to find the right template for it, but you were quicker. :-) ] | ] 20:00, 13 September 2013 (UTC). | |||
| :Oops, didn't mean to steal your edit there, I didn't look at the timestamps and assumed it was several hours old for some reason. ] (]) 20:19, 13 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| ::No, no, it's fine. Dividing up the action between doing the block and closing the thread is all to the good IMO, and I never did find the right template. I always get in a tizzy about these things, and worry about making it clear to the bot. (Or is that just on ]? I'm more used to that board.) ] | ] 20:32, 13 September 2013 (UTC). | |||
| :::Hmm, to be honest, I'm really not sure if a bot archives AN3 or not. I'll have to look into that. ] (]) 20:41, 13 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
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== Editing a Portal == | ||
| Hi Mark, I just wanted to edit info in wiki portal "Military of India" which has some incorrect info. The portal is semi protected and can be edited by only auto confirmed users as updated by you. I have corrected the same in Wiki article/page by citing authentic sources & duly following protocol. I would appreciate if you help/direct me how to edit the portal or what has to be done to correct it. Thanks ] (]) 17:21, 19 September 2015 (UTC) | |||
| Hello, Mark Arsten. You recently closed ], noting consensus for soft redirect. Problem is, there is no entry at ]. In fact, I can't find the word mentioned anywhere on Wiktionary. ] (]) 23:27, 13 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
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:If you post the changes you want to make on the Portal's talk page I (or anyone else who sees it) can copy them over for you. ] (]) 17:43, 19 September 2015 (UTC) | ||
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== 3RR ? == | ||
| Mark, can you or one of your stalkers look at this series of reverts by IHTS? I'm rather busy at the moment: . ]] 05:29, 20 September 2015 (UTC) | |||
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:Sorry about how things turned out with that RFA, this place can be terrible sometimes. ] (]) 17:45, 25 September 2015 (UTC) | ||
| : |
::Nuked, but I'm still standing. Now to get the trolls to simmer down, sigh.... ]] 23:36, 26 September 2015 (UTC) | ||
| ::Protect the article. ] ] 01:04, 14 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| :::The article's protected, we're just wondering what to do about the talk page now. ] (]) 01:15, 14 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| == Budapest bid for the 2024 Summer Olympics == | |||
| == Thank you == | |||
| I would like the subject page ] to be undeleted since the five candidates cities have now been announced. Since you deleted this page in the first place, can you do please do this or whom should I contact ? ] (]) 11:28, 22 September 2015 (UTC) | |||
| :{{ping|Hektor}} Sorry for the delay, I've restored it. Might need a bit of cleanup now though. ] (]) 17:43, 25 September 2015 (UTC) | |||
| == Deletion "Hikmet Geckil" == | |||
| Thanks for your help this evening. Much appreciated. Cheers, ] (]) 01:21, 14 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| :You're welcome, glad to help. ] (]) 01:22, 14 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| Dear Mark, | |||
| == ], Part 2 == | |||
| I will be happy for the reconsideration of inclusion of my name, Hikmet Geckil, in Misplaced Pages. | |||
| Best wishes, | |||
| Hikmet | |||
| https://www.inonu.edu.tr/en/cms/hikmet.geckil ] (]) 11:20, 30 September 2015 (UTC) | |||
| :Hi Hikmet, it may be possible to restore the page if you can offer evidence that the nominator's rationale is no longer valid. See ] for details. Feel free to ask if you have any questions about our notability policy. ] (]) 17:40, 1 October 2015 (UTC) | |||
| == This Friday: ] == | |||
| Thanks for Before you did that, I was about to state: "Mark, the IP range that led you to protect the Vegetarianism article before (]) is back. I really think that the IP is a ], given what is currently shown on the talk page. Mind semi-protecting this article again until the dispute is over? Well, hopefully, it will be over before whatever date you set for it...if you do semi-protect the article." | |||
| You are invited to join the ] on October 16! (drop-in any time, 6-9pm)--] (]) 18:29, 14 October 2015 (UTC) | |||
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| :Wow, I guess I timed that pretty well! ] (]) 02:37, 14 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| ::LOL. ] (]) 02:52, 14 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| == Suspected sock == | |||
| :::Hi, ] would you mind formally closing started by the IP? It's decidedly not constructive and pretty much a compendium of attacks directed at ]. Thanks. ] <sup><font color="green">]</font></sup> 03:33, 14 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| ::::Yeah, that really was heavy on the NPA violations. I'd block, but it would have to be a reasonably large rangeblock in this case, so I protected instead and hatted the section. ] (]) 03:45, 14 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| You worked on some sock puppet investigations for ]. I am quite confident that IP 120.16.88.202 is this user evading the block. If you look at article ], his editing choices are exactly the same as the sock master and sock Energy110. ] (]) 02:11, 21 October 2015 (UTC) | |||
| ::: Hi Mark, thanks for your work for Misplaced Pages. I would like to put my side of story. Flyer22 started personal attack against my good faith editing in the first place. I am not Flyer22's past enemy. I never talked to Flyer22 before. All I want to do is improve the scientific/academic quality of the article. But Flyer22 cannot engage in a scientific debate, just want to fight. ] (]) 04:06, 14 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| :Looks like someone beat me to it! ] (]) 04:18, 22 October 2015 (UTC) | |||
| ::::I don't like to protect talk pages like that, but some of the comments you directed at Flyer in the ] were clear violations of our ] policy. To be honest, I would have blocked you for them if you weren't on a dynamic IP. If you'd like me to unprotect that page, you'd first have to convince me that you'll adhere to our civility (]) and no personal attacks policies. ] (]) 04:11, 14 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| ::: Thanks for your response. I always aware and adhere (]). I disagree that I did personal attack. As we can see on the talk page, I did respond to Flyer22, described Flyer22's uncivil conducts. Because Flyer22 attacked me in the first place. I believe that you tried to maintain fairness as much as possible. I think you will equally consider the incivility of Flyer22, which is the cause of the dispute. I look forward to a quality academic debate on the topic of vegetarianism. ] (]) 04:37, 14 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| I am also wondering, what kind of evidence you want about I am in good faith editing? I can provide more information. | |||
| ::: I wrote ' I think you will equally consider the incivility of Flyer22', because of this: http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Assume_good_faith . But apparently, some of the editors I talked to today, did the exactly opposite to me. ] (]) 05:47, 14 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| ::::Please comment on content, not other contributors. ] (]) 14:56, 14 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| :::'Please comment on content, not other contributors.' Will you or did you ask Flyer22 do so EQUALLY? I hope anyone told Flyer22. Did you somehow block Flyer22 so she cannot attack other editors or edit-warring? Sufficient time has passed, I am going to conclude my conversation on this page. Your intervention on the talk page is very unjust and disappointing. ] (]) 22:13, 14 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| ::::I haven't seen any attacks on other editors from her, to be honest. ] (]) 23:05, 14 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
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| == Deletion of Mitzura Arghezi == | |||
| Hi, how those closed with a "no consensus"? I expected a "speedy keep" or "keep" at least. --<span style="background:orange;border:orange ridge">]</span><span style="color:blue;background:white;otit;border-bottom-style:ridge;">☸</span><span style="background:#57C738;border:green ridge">]</span> 04:16, 14 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| :Well, there was about an equal number of reasonably policy-based people on each side. It didn't seem to be that there was enough numerical superiority or lack of grounding in policy on either side, to me at least. ] (]) 15:10, 14 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| ::* Policy based argument? Please show me a single valid delete vote argument there. a) the nominator did not give any rationale (he was asked twice, but, he did not write any), b) there is not a single valid argument to delete the article. I am still wondering why this article was nominated for deletion. --<span style="background:orange;border:orange ridge">]</span><span style="color:blue;background:white;otit;border-bottom-style:ridge;">☸</span><span style="background:#57C738;border:green ridge">]</span> 22:07, 14 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| ::::Well, three participants argued that the article was unfit for inclusion due to its promotional nature, which is a legitimate argument to make. It didn't gain consensus, of course, but it's not so weak as to be disqualified as an argument as it has some basis in policy. ] (]) 23:04, 14 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| I'm thinking of writing an article on Mitzura Arghezi and I saw you deleted this article in the past can I have a reason why and/or a cache so I don't recreate the reason it was deleted the first time. | |||
| HI, the reason i nominated this article in the first place is that, its plain ridiculous. | |||
| ] (]) 14:44, 27 October 2015 (UTC) | |||
| 1. it is promotional | |||
| :It was deleted because it didn't have any sources cited in the article. The only text was "'''Mitzura Arghezi''' (born 10 December 1924 in ]) is a Romanian actress, politician and daughter of poet ]." You're free to recreate it if you can add some sources and hopefully some more details. Let me know if you have any issues. ] (]) 23:31, 27 October 2015 (UTC) | |||
| 2. it lacks anything worth of an encyclopedia article | |||
| @Mark Arsten thanks man ill look into it a bit. If another editor sees this and wants to recreate this page let me know or I may. ] (]) 17:45, 30 October 2015 (UTC) | |||
| 3. I couldn't find a single govt website or anything official that declared such a thing as recognized. | |||
| 4. there is no "Parent's worship day", observed/followed/celebrated anywhere in India. It was probably a one time thing, some politicians gave a comment about, amongst 100s of other things they say and not be serious about. | |||
| 5. there is not a single instance where a well-known newspaper says that some one celebrated it. | |||
| the only instance to be found is this | |||
| http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/worship-parents-on-valentines-day-asaram-bapu/1/171080.html | |||
| and even this reads "Worship parents on Valentine's Day, says Asaram Bapu". | |||
| == Halloween cheer! == | |||
| another reference gives a 404 not found | |||
| <div style="border-style:solid; border-color:#000; background-color:#FFB924; border-width:2px; text-align:left; padding:8px;" class="plainlinks">]] | |||
| http://www.statetimes.in/news/parents-worship-day-celebrated/ | |||
| another link has nothing related to this article | |||
| http://www.merinews.com/article/chhattisgarh-makes-parents-worship-day-a-compulsory-observance-in-schools-on-february-14/15881586.shtml&cp | |||
| {{Center|'''''{{resize|187%|Happy ]!}}'''''}} | |||
| 6. only place you find mention of this, is at below promotional website for the same organization. | |||
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| http://www.mppd.ashram.org/ | |||
| '''Hello Mark Arsten:<br>Thanks for all of your contributions to improve Misplaced Pages, and have a happy and enjoyable ]!'''<br> {{spaced ndash}} ] (]) 23:10, 30 October 2015 (UTC) | |||
| Regards | |||
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| == ] == | |||
| == Explanation request (continued) == | |||
| Mark, a summary of a Featured Article you nominated at ] will appear on the Main Page soon. It mostly follows the lead section; how does it look? - Dank (]) 15:22, 31 October 2015 (UTC) | |||
| Sorry for bringing this up again, but I forgot to ask something that might help me better understand how Misplaced Pages policy is applied: you explained why you decided not to block in that case, but why did you state that even an administrator warning was not called for? ] (]) 06:27, 14 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| :Nice one {{u|Dank}}, and thank you Mark. There is a ref broken which will of course need fixing before the big day; I'd do it myself, but coding was really never my strong point. '''<span style="text-shadow:7px 7px 8px Black;">]]</span>''' 17:45, 31 October 2015 (UTC) | |||
| :I guess I felt that her edits fell into the "normal content disagreement" rather than the "edit warring" spectrum, to put it concisely. ] (]) 15:11, 14 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| ::Thanks guys, it had been a long time since I looked at the article, really brought back some memories. I'm not sure about that reference error myself, {{ping|Diannaa}} do you know what's causing the issue? ] (]) 23:52, 31 October 2015 (UTC) | |||
| :::Yes I do; I have been working on fixing these errors, so I got it. -- ] (]) 03:47, 1 November 2015 (UTC) | |||
| ::::Thanks Diannaa, you sure have an eye for details! ] (]) 00:15, 2 November 2015 (UTC) | |||
| {{user precious again|], who "went from a humble peddler to royal adviser in a very short time, using only his charming personality and ability to predict the future"}} | |||
| == hey == | |||
| --] (]) 14:33, 14 November 2015 (UTC) | |||
| :Thanks Gerda. So far, not much trouble with vandals at all. ] (]) 17:24, 14 November 2015 (UTC) | |||
| ==Diwali== | |||
| you dumb. You is will be ban. I is own wiki. I speak good English next year. — ]] 13:12, 14 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
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| ''Sky full of fireworks,<br> | |||
| ''Mouth full of sweets,<br> | |||
| ''Home full of lamps,<br> | |||
| ''And festival full of sweet memories...<br> | |||
| '''''Wishing You a Very Happy and Prosperous ].<br> | |||
| :Will BeWhat? --] (]) 13:46, 14 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| §§]§§ <small>{] / ]}</small> 04:54, 10 November 2015 (UTC) | |||
| :lol, I should save all my fan mail so I'll have something to look back on in my declining years. ] (]) 14:54, 14 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| <br><br> | |||
| ::Remember too, ! -- ] (]) 01:52, 15 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| :<small>Send Diwali wishings by adding {{tls|Happy Diwali}} to people's talk pages with a friendly message.</small> | |||
| == Sunbeam Tiger page status == | |||
| |}</div>{{-}} | |||
| Hi Mark, I noted you're in some position to be familiar with the Wiki process. The Sunbeam Tiger article page has "Featured Article" status. Unfortunately, in the eyes of most Tiger owners that have visited and read the page, the status is more accurately represented by the "start" rating, because the editors appear to have reached factually (and easily proved to be) incorrect conclusions on most points of detail regarding the origins, development, and production of the Tiger. What is the appropriate process to lodge a dispute with the page content, other than to raise the issue on the corresponding page? The current editors seem to be loath to make changes because they spent a bunch of time getting to where they are, but they are quick to slam the door on anyone else providing input at this point regardless of how good the source of the information may be.] (]) 21:54, 14 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| :Well, what matters is the sources. Anyone can show up on the talk page and say the page is wrong, so we require arguments about what is the truth of the matter to be verifiable (]). So, to win the argument, you have to come up with reliable sources that confirm your claims (]). If you feel that the article is contradicted by reliable sources and thus does not deserve to be featured, you can nominated its featured status for removal at ]. Note that nominations can only take place 6 months after the article's promotion and one week after concerns are first raised on the talk page. By the way, if you're subjected to personal attacks you're free to raise the issue at ]. Let me know if you have any more questions, ] (]) 23:09, 14 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| :Thanks, you too. ] (]) 17:23, 14 November 2015 (UTC) | |||
| == Sept 14th AfD for National Institue of Fashion (ludhiana) == | |||
| == A question about your procedure == | |||
| Could you please help. Tito seems to have clearly taken a dislike to me because of a previous AfD that I argued was closed by him less then 23 hours after posting in which he seemed to me more guided by keeping an India project article up then anything else. It was reopened while I was offline, and closed again. I thought nothing of it till today. I posted an article for AfD that is clearly too soon. A minister in India announced a day or two ago that a fashion institute should be opened in a city. No firm plans are on hand, no money has been provided to fund it, heck no firm commitment to open it. It may or may not happen even. However Tito posts a vote more against the user then anything. When I reply back assuming he misunderstood that the article was about a new institute and not one currently open in a different state he let into a very personal attack. I replied back to give a response to what I see as an attack on the user and not the substance of the AfD. (I might concede it being notable if it wasn't for the only thing about it was an announcement two days ago saying one is needed) Either way it's far from a bad faith nom, and his follow up posting where he drags in my talk page history pointing directly to the section on the AfD I had argued was closed early shows me this is personal and not policy driven. ] (]) 23:20, 14 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| :I'm having a little trouble following your comments here, but I see DGG has posted on the page encouraging him to assume good faith. That's probably all that's needed for now. Maybe try to avoid him for a while if you can, as well? ] (]) 00:32, 15 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| ::Basically it boils down IMO to Tito wants India projects Kept, not deleted, or even marked no consensus. I believe I got on his bad side where I had asked for a reopening of a IMO bad NAC closing less then 23 hours after opening. Now it's attack the user arguing bad faith, when I've provided a very logical position that it's way too soon for an article. Basically nothing has happened other then two days ago a Minister announced that a city should get a campus of National Institute of Fashion. No money has been earmarked, no legislative approval has been given, there's no building plans, nothing other then a statement that a city should get a campus. I've put that makes it way too soon for a campus article. A mention on the main page of the institute sure, but an article on a campus that may or may not even open no. ] (]) 06:47, 15 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| :::Saying that he just wants every Indian article kept is a bit unfair, isn't it? I'm sure he's operating in good faith himself, even if he should assume more good faith about your actions. ] (]) 07:01, 15 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| :::FYI I was happy to leave this alone, however guy1980 seems to feel bringing an issue to you as admin is vote canvassing. That's a outrageous thing to say when I never asked you to vote at all. I asked you to take a look at an issue. All his post now does is tell people they are not welcome to bring issues to an admin. If anything it almost seems like two people have teamed up together now. I don't mind you choosing to ignore the issue on Tito, but IMO guy1980's actions have crossed a line. ] (]) 15:26, 16 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| ::::* Generally one should report at ANI and not to an admin and inform the other editor as a "courtesy". The last AFD he is talking about, there his AFD's rational was "film will release after one month, so delete", he also called the film "non-notable", even a simple Google search shows many coverages, and if a film is releasing in few weeks, that is a reason to speedy keep and not to delete. <br/>I did not mind his "toosoon" point, but, he somehow added a "non-notable" allegation. A central government' national institute — non notable? And it is not he first or second time... see history of his talk page. And, he again feels, I want to "keep" all India articles, though in reality, I regularly give "delete" votes, and very recently I have converted few AFDs to speedy. --<span style="background:orange;border:orange ridge">]</span><span style="color:blue;background:white;otit;border-bottom-style:ridge;">☸</span><span style="background:#57C738;border:green ridge">]</span> 15:52, 16 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| I noticed you've revdeleted a post on Montanabw's talk in the last few minutes. I have zero doubt you had excellent reasons for doing so. Is there a specific reason why you've chosen not to leave some kind of warning or notice on the ip contributor's talk? When I revert the normal range of vandal contributions, I always leave a UW so that the next vandal fighter who comes along can see the track record. Is this some sort of "don't feed the trolls" situation? I'm just curious. If for reasons of propriety you'd rather not reply here, I'd welcome your email. Thanks ] (]) 16:32, 12 November 2015 (UTC) | |||
| ::::::Anyone that's been following what's been going on recently at AfD can see pretty clearly that there's a growing list of editors that are growing tired of cleaning up "Caffeyw's" messes. "Caffeyw" has been mostly ignoring/deleting messages that have been posted to their talk page, by other editors & administrators, that have been, at best, confused by their actions, and I'm trying to be nice here. They either need a ], or they need to stop ] at AfD and what appears to be the New Page Patrol. Newcomers to Misplaced Pages, like "Caffeyw", that end up ] other newcomers is pretty much pointless behavior. ] (]) 07:26, 17 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| : |
:I was under the impression this was an LTA with a number of IPs so I didn't bother with the usual steps. Maybe I should have though? Open to advice as always. ] (]) 16:45, 12 November 2015 (UTC) | ||
| ::As an admin, you do more of this than I do, so I was just asking. One of the reasons I add user warnings automatically is that it puts the ip address on my radar via watchlist. Periodically I delete such ips from the watchlist, but I find that in the short term, watchlisting the talkpage is a handy practice, a form of mapping. (As it turns out, the only reason I witnessed the action was because M's talkpage is on my watchlist--as is yours.) Thanks for logical answer. ] (]) 18:20, 12 November 2015 (UTC) | |||
| :::Not a bad point there. I haven't been doing too much on Misplaced Pages, so I have to make sure I still remember how to do admin stuff right. ] (]) 03:09, 14 November 2015 (UTC) | |||
| == ] == | |||
| This article has been suffering from numerous disputes. I don't see the heat cooling down soon. Can you extend protection? --] (]) 19:15, 21 November 2015 (UTC) | |||
| :Hi George. There is a lot of reverting going on with registered users, not sure how much trouble IPs will add to it though. Cotto vs. Canelo might keep them occupied tonight, at least. ] (]) 00:06, 22 November 2015 (UTC) | |||
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| == Nice to see you back == | |||
| Welcome back Mark. Thank you also for the help with the socks. Take care. ] ] 16:06, 27 November 2015 (UTC) | |||
| :Thanks, I guess all the hubbub about the Arbcom elections drew me back in :) ] (]) 16:19, 27 November 2015 (UTC) | |||
| ::In that case we should hold these elections more often. :) ] ] 17:49, 27 November 2015 (UTC) | |||
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| ]You are invited to join the discussion at ].  Some baddies over there could use some blocking Thanks. ] (]) 13:45, 28 November 2015 (UTC)<!-- ] --> | |||
| == William T. Anderson Research == | |||
| I look forward to your comments about the family group of William T. Anderson. | |||
| I understand that Misplaced Pages sources are limited to published research. Information from original research of primary sources is discouraged. | |||
| The 1860 census of Breckenridge County, Kansas, shows an additional child, Charles, of William C. Anderson and Martha Jane Thomasson. The 1850 census of Randolph County, Missouri shows W. and Mahala Thomason living in the household of William Anderson. The 1840 census of Liberty Township, Marion County, Missouri, shows that William C. Anderson and William Thomason were heads of household. It seems reasonable to assume that the maternal grandparents of William T. Anderson were William Thomasson and Mahala Baker. | |||
| Bill Anderson’s birth year of 1840 is widely accepted, and is found in published information and on memorials and monuments. Two contemporary records exist that indicate his birth year was before 1840. The 1850 census of Marion County, Missouri, shows that William Anderson was 11. The 1860 census of Breckenridge County, Kansas, shows that William T. Anderson was 21. | |||
| 1850 and 1860 census instructions to enumerators: Under heading 4, entitled “Age,” insert in figures what was the specific age of each person at his or her last birthday previous to the 1st of June. (Commencement of the census was to begin June 1st.) | |||
| William T. Anderson was born after June 1st, 1838, and before June 1st, 1839, IF the respondent provided the correct age of William T. Anderson to the enumerator, and IF the enumerator accurately recorded the information. Perhaps a more accurate source of the birth year of William T. Anderson exists. | |||
| Published accounts of the life of William T. Anderson state that he married Bush Smith in Grayson County, Texas. That is confirmed by a Grayson County marriage liecense issued to Lieut. William T. Anderson and MIss Bush Smith on 2 March 1864. | |||
| Published accounts of the life of William T. Anderson state that his brother, Jim, brought his surviving sisters, Mollie and Mattie, to Grayson County after the death of William T. Anderson. That is confirmed by Grayson County marriage licenses for A. V. Doak and Mollie E. Anderson; E. G. Douglass and Mattie G. Anderson; and James Anderson and Mary Erwin, and several census records. | |||
| Published accounts of the life of William T. Anderson state that Jim Anderson married his brother's widow. That is possible. There is a Grayson County marriage record for J. M. Anderson and Malinda Anderson, but there is insufficient information to identify them as James Monroe Anderson and Bush Smith Anderson. There is very convincing evidence that Mary Erwin was not William T. Anderson's widow. | |||
| Published accounts of the life of William T. Anderson state that he built a house for Bush Smith in Sherman. No tax or property records have been found to confirm that claim. | |||
| Thanks, | |||
| ] (]) 16:57, 28 November 2015 (UTC)BBAhistorian | |||
| 27 November 2015 | |||
| :Hi again, thanks for all the details. I'm a little unclear though about which changes you would like to be made on this page. Could you suggest some specific edits? Thanks, ] (]) 04:58, 29 November 2015 (UTC) | |||
| Mark, thanks for the response. | |||
| Possible edits. | |||
| His siblings were Jim, Ellis, Mary Ellen, Josephine and Janie. | |||
| Suggested revision: | |||
| His siblings were Ellis, James Monroe “Jim”, Mary Ellen “Mollie”, Susan Josephine, Martha Jane “Mattie”, and Charles. | |||
| (Justification: 1860 census record and Breckenridge County probate record of William C. Anderson’s estate) | |||
| Anderson married Bush Smith, a woman from Sherman, Texas. | |||
| Suggested revision: | |||
| Anderson married Miss Bush Smith of Sherman, Texas, 3 October 1864. | |||
| (Justification: Copy of marriage license issued to Lieut William T. Anderson and Miss Bush Smith) | |||
| “William T. Anderson was born in 1840” | |||
| Suggested revision: | |||
| William T. Anderson was born about 1839. | |||
| (Justification: 1850 and 1860 census records do not support the 1840 birth year) | |||
| By 1860, William T. Anderson was a joint owner of a 320-acre (1.3 km2) property that was worth $500 and his family had a net worth of around $1,000. | |||
| QUESTION: Adjacent entries on the 1860 agricultural census of Breckenridge County, Kansas, show Wm. C. Anderson as the owner of 160 acres, and Wm. T. Anderson as the owner of 160 acres. Each acreage was valued at $500. Does this constitute joint ownership? | |||
| ] (]) 16:45, 29 November 2015 (UTC)BBAhistorian | |||
| 29 Nov 2015 | |||
| :Oh thanks, that is helpful. I see what you mean now. ] (]) 15:35, 30 November 2015 (UTC) | |||
| :I'm just thinking about how to add this to the article. Do you know the preferred format for citing census records and so on? I've never done it. Of course, if we could find sources that mention them it would be much simpler. ] (]) 20:39, 1 December 2015 (UTC) | |||
| == SPI clerk list == | |||
| Hi Mark, it's great to see you contributing again. Would you like to be moved back to active on the SPI clerk list? If so, you can do it yourself, or I can do it for you, whichever you prefer.--] (]) 14:19, 1 December 2015 (UTC) | |||
| :Thanks, it feels good to help out again. Sure, I think I will be around enough to be "active" again. I'll move myself over. ] (]) 20:40, 1 December 2015 (UTC) | |||
| ::Hooray! <small>throws confetti</small>--]<sup>]</sup> 20:52, 1 December 2015 (UTC) | |||
| ::: :) ] (]) 21:09, 1 December 2015 (UTC) | |||
| ::::Another hooray! {{=)}} <span style="font-family:sans-serif">— <span style="font-weight:bold">] <sup>]</sup></span></span> 18:44, 4 December 2015 (UTC) | |||
| == A cookie for you! == | |||
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| |style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;" | Thanks for the block. Any chance you could please rev'del the material inserted by the IP on Muhammad? Thanks! ]<sup>]</sup> 03:03, 4 December 2015 (UTC) | |||
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| :No problem, glad to help. ] (]) 03:05, 4 December 2015 (UTC) | |||
| == Good to see you back! == | |||
| It's always nice when one of the more proactive Admins returns. Welcome back! ] (]) 15:52, 5 December 2015 (UTC) | |||
| :Thanks, glad to be back. ] (]) 14:02, 6 December 2015 (UTC) | |||
| == Category:Fomboni FC players == | |||
| Can I please ask why {{cat|Fomboni FC players}} was deleted as empty (and {{ping|Liz}} even tagged in the first place) as C1 when it was not empty? ]] 08:10, 6 December 2015 (UTC) | |||
| :I would have only tagged the category if it appeared on ] and I found it empty. Then it sat in ] for four days before being deleted. I regularly check this category and remove categories that are no longer empty so I don't know why I missed seeing that this category had one assigned article. I don't know how this one category slipped past us both if was not indeed empty. ] <sup style="font-family:Times New Roman;">] ]</sup> 08:39, 6 December 2015 (UTC) | |||
| ::Hmm, that is odd, not sure what the issue was. ] (]) 14:06, 6 December 2015 (UTC) | |||
| == User:Johannesgotha == | |||
| Hello, you recently blocked Johannesgotha for three days for edit warring at ], the second such block he received within the week. Well, as soon as the block expired, the user went right back to making the same edits. I have reverted him, and request a re-block, for clearly he intends to continue disrupting the page. ] (]) 22:15, 6 December 2015 (UTC) | |||
| :Thanks for the tip, I blocked him indef. ] (]) 02:06, 7 December 2015 (UTC) | |||
| == A cookie for you! == | |||
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| |style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;" | Great administrator work :-) Keep it up! ] (]) 01:13, 10 December 2015 (UTC) | |||
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| :Thanks, there sure is a lot of it to do! ] (]) 01:16, 10 December 2015 (UTC) | |||
| ] Just recovered my wiki account from 2013 (e.g., community integration, family support) after being blocked by Beetlebrox at Long Term Services and Supports (LTSS) and the Special Population groups and ''US Direct Support Workforce'' (Here, this time; updates at mental health workforce and dual inclusion educators). I was delighted that Urie Brofenbrenner (Urie Brofennbrenner Translational Center at Cornell Plantations), Judith E. Heumann and Ed Roberts (World Institute on Disability, and the former, Clinton, Bush and Obama Administrations), and Carl Rogers (I was with his Nat Raskin at Northwestern University, also American Association of Psychotherapists) were prominently featured. I was over at the American Society for Public Administration, and am on through March as Health and Human Services Administration (HHSA) Executive. Today, I was blocked at Andrew Cuomo, Governor, who is in my book, Public Administration and Disability: Community Services Administration in the US (Racino, 2014); the site needed the minimum wage legislation, supported housing, and the environment, among others. ````JulieAnnRacino````2018 ] <!--Template:Undated--><small class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added 14:23, 7 January 2018 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
| == Orphaned image that was deleted == | |||
| I have rewritten ]. The article had previously been turned into a redirect page, making an orphan of the non-free image that had been used on the previous version of the page: ]. The image was deleted shortly after. I was wondering if it was possible to restore the deleted image. Can you help? ] (]) 14:58, 13 December 2015 (UTC) | |||
| :Alright, I've brought it back and added it to the article. Let me know if you need anything else. ] (]) 15:45, 13 December 2015 (UTC) | |||
| ::Thanks for sorting this out. ] (]) 17:26, 13 December 2015 (UTC) | |||
| ==Thanks== | |||
| Thanks very much for cleaning up my ] ] mistake. —] (]) 03:03, 19 December 2015 (UTC) | |||
| :No problem, glad to help. We had one guy recently who created a ton of totally implausible redirects on purpose, so I was happy to see that's not what was happening here :) ] (]) 04:14, 19 December 2015 (UTC) | |||
| == Edit warring MRT lines == | |||
| Hello Marks Arsten, there seems to be going on some edit warring right now for a while already at two Articles by the two same people: | |||
| one IP and a registered user, I have no knowledge on the subject so I cannot say much and username perhaps does not know he can report at a noticeboard. The 2 Articles are ], ], just check their history. Since I am not involved I do not think I should be the one to report to noticeboard but at least you might be able to help being an admin :-) Alternatively maybe a page protection might help one cool off (edits do include rude language like this one from IP . Thanks for looking. ] (]) 15:02, 21 December 2015 (UTC) | |||
| :Hmm, it looks like they both have technically broken ] on ] so they could be blocked at admin discretion. The best thing to do at this point would probably be to drop them each a talk page note telling them that they've crossed the line and hope that causes them to back off on the edit warring for today. Obvious vandalism is an exception to 3RR of course, but I don't think changing "<nowiki>Change to ] (]) 15:22, 21 December 2015 (UTC) | |||
| ::Okay, thanks. Can any user do so (leave them a note on their Talkpage for this purpose), or only admins? I have bad memories trying to calm down other people's arguments. Oh well. Cheerio ] (]) 15:48, 21 December 2015 (UTC) | |||
| :::Yes, any user is free to leave talkpage warnings about edit warring and so on. ] has a warning function that's helpful, <nowiki>{{uw-3rr}}</nowiki> is usually what I use. With established users it's often better to write out a note than using a template though. ] (]) 16:15, 21 December 2015 (UTC) | |||
| ::Hello, I'm one of the users that is engaged in the edit war. I have talked with the IP Address user to no reply. I have contacted the other registered user which I've resolved in a civilized manner. I'm sorry if you think that my reverts has caused this confusion. My revert from "<nowiki>Change to ] (]) 16:42, 21 December 2015 (UTC) | |||
| :::Yeah, your changes may be correct, but please be careful of the 3RR bright line. Merely reverting incorrect changes is not an exception, they have to be apparent as deliberate attempts to damage to project. It is frustrating dealing with someone won't communicate, so you might want to post on a relevant wikiproject talk page to try to get more input or ask people who have edited that article or similar articles to weigh in. (I suspect one user is using both an IP and an account to revert here, so I'll treat them as the same individual for revert purposes.) ] (]) 16:53, 21 December 2015 (UTC) | |||
| == SPI of Nmzbnmzbnmz == | |||
| Hi, I noticed that you closed the SPI of Nmzbnmzbnmz. I didn't notice that the SPI was closed because I was typing a comment which took me 4 minutes long while you were blocking the sockpuppet. I think the SPI requires a checkuser because one more account is missing. Please see the ] for explanation. Thanks. ]<sup>]</sup> 18:52, 21 December 2015 (UTC) | |||
| :Good catch, looking at the deleted revisions now I see I missed a couple socks. Will update the SPI. Thanks, ] (]) 18:58, 21 December 2015 (UTC) | |||
| == Contact me! == | |||
| Hi Mark! | |||
| I'm a reporter working on a story about the Misplaced Pages page for Han Solo. I'd love to tell you more over email. Mind dropping me a line? | |||
| daniel.duray@gmail.com | |||
| Thanks and happy holidays! | |||
| Dan <small class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 23:50, 21 December 2015 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
| :Sure, I'd be happy to. Just sent you an e-mail. ] (]) 00:04, 22 December 2015 (UTC) | |||
| == SPI mismatch == | |||
| You archived ] but the closing admin comment mentioned that the socks are listed at ] which doesn't match. I think the easiest fix is renaming the SPI. Regards, ] (]) 09:48, 22 December 2015 (UTC) | |||
| :Alright, I must have mixed that, I'll move it over to the right title. Thanks for pointing that out. ] (]) 23:57, 22 December 2015 (UTC) | |||
| ::Thanks for fixing. ] (]) 10:31, 24 December 2015 (UTC) | |||
| == sockpuppet == | |||
| I believe I will not used puppet of me Please dont block me I will use 1 user. (] (]) 22:07, 22 December 2015 (UTC)). | |||
| :No worries, just stick to one account from now on and you'll be fine. If you do have to use two accounts for some reason make sure to follow ]. Thanks, ] (]) 00:04, 23 December 2015 (UTC) | |||
| :I want to Open that by final decision please Now Wiki Thai want to open them. How do you do? (] (]) 10:13, 23 December 2015 (UTC)). | |||
| ::Sorry, but I never do anything on meta. Good luck with that project though. ] (]) 16:59, 24 December 2015 (UTC) | |||
| :Merry Chirstmas (] (]) 09:43, 25 December 2015 (UTC)). | |||
| == Merry Christmas, Mark == | |||
| And may your holidays be Cheers. ] (]) 22:39, 22 December 2015 (UTC) | |||
| :Merry Christmas to you to! ] (]) 00:05, 23 December 2015 (UTC) | |||
| == Season's greetings == | |||
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| |} | |||
| :Season's greetings to you too Diannaa! ] (]) 14:56, 24 December 2015 (UTC) | |||
| == ] == | |||
| Can you add pending changes? The article has been vandalized before semi-protection. --] (]) 06:11, 23 December 2015 (UTC) | |||
| == Merry stuff. == | |||
| <div style="border-style:solid; border-color:#01902a; background-color:#fff; border-width:3px; text-align:left; padding:2px;"><div style="border-style:solid; border-color:red; background-color:#fff; border-width:2px; text-align:left; padding:6px;" class="plainlinks">] | |||
| ] (]) is wishing you a ] ]! This greeting (and season) promotes ] and hopefully this note has made your day a little better. Spread the WikiLove by wishing another user a ], whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Happy New Year! <br /> | |||
| ''Spread the cheer by adding {{tls|Xmas6}} to their talk page with a friendly message.'' | |||
| </div></div> | |||
| ] (]) 17:07, 23 December 2015 (UTC) | |||
| :Thanks, Merry Christmas to you too. ] (]) 14:46, 24 December 2015 (UTC) | |||
| == FYI == | |||
| Could you look at ]... editor back making exact same edits. -- ] (]) 18:02, 24 December 2015 (UTC) | |||
| :Looks like someone beat me to it! ] (]) 02:04, 25 December 2015 (UTC) | |||
| ==Season's Greetings== | |||
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| |style="font-size:medium; padding: 3 px 3px 0 3px; height: 1em;" | Wishing you a <s>]</s> <br> ] ]! 🎄 | |||
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| |"vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;" |''Best wishes for your Christmas<br>Is all you get from me<br>'Cause I ain't no Santa Claus<br>Don't own no Christmas tree.<br>But if wishes was health and money<br>I'd fill your buck-skin poke<br>Your doctor would go hungry<br>An' you never would be broke." <br><small>—C.M. Russell, Christmas greeting 1914.</small> <br>]] | |||
| |} | |||
| :Thanks, same to you! ] (]) 02:04, 25 December 2015 (UTC) | |||
| ==''Season's Greetings''== | |||
| ] '''''To You and Yours!''''' <br> | |||
| ] (]) 22:05, 24 December 2015 (UTC) {{clear}} | |||
| :Thanks, same to you! ] (]) 02:04, 25 December 2015 (UTC) | |||
| ==Yo Ho Ho== | |||
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| ]|] is wishing you ]! Whether you celebrate your hemisphere's ] or ], ], ], ], ], ] or even the ], this is a special time of year for almost everyone! <br /> | |||
| <small>Spread the holiday cheer by adding {{]:]}} to your friends' talk pages</small>. | |||
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| :May your 2016 be full of joy and special times. ]|] 02:14, 25 December 2015 (UTC) | |||
| ::Thank you for the block of the editor using my username and for the rev/del of the edit summaries. Since your present got here several hours (my time) before Santa you are welcome to the cookies and milk :-) ]|] 02:14, 25 December 2015 (UTC) | |||
| :::You're welcome, glad to help :) ] (]) 02:15, 25 December 2015 (UTC) | |||
| ::::Hi again. It looks like . If you're off celebrating Xmas eve or day there is no hurry at all. ]|] 03:55, 25 December 2015 (UTC) | |||
| ==Merry Christmas== | |||
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| | style="padding:25px;" | <p>Wishing you a merry ] and a happy new year...</p><p>] (])</p> | |||
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| == Merry Christmas! == | |||
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| |] <small>(] | ])</small> is wishing you a ] ]! This greeting (and season) promotes ] and hopefully this note has made your day a little better. Spread the WikiLove by wishing another user a ], whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Happy New Year! <br /> | |||
| <small>Spread the Christmas cheer by adding {{tls|Xmas3}} to their talk page with a friendly message.</small> | |||
| |} --] <small>(] | ])</small> 16:11, 25 December 2015 (UTC) | |||
| == Harassment == | |||
| Hi Mark. Recently you blocked the user Qtwe. Can you delete the page history who Qtwe edited in ]? He attacks me in the edit summary and added an ip. Also he insulted me in my user talk in many times (in spanish) Thanks. --] (]) 21:31, 28 December 2015 (UTC) | |||
| :Sure, I revision deleted an edit summary on the article and one on your talk page. Let me know if he turns up again... ] (]) 22:08, 28 December 2015 (UTC) | |||
| ==Vandalism Thanks== | |||
| Hi ], thank you so much for your efforts in preventing vandalism. I see you protected the page of the human rights activist, Majid Rafizadeh. Do you think you can address the templates in the page so people stop vandalizing the page? Thanks. <small class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 02:18, 29 December 2015 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
| :I probably won't get involved much more with it than I have been, Melcous might be able to help though. ] (]) 21:50, 29 December 2015 (UTC) | |||
| == Happy New Year Mark Arsten! == | |||
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| '''Mark Arsten''',<br />Have a prosperous, productive and enjoyable ], and thanks for your contributions to Misplaced Pages. ] (]) 13:51, 31 December 2015 (UTC) | |||
| <br /><br /> | |||
| {{Center|1=<small>Send New Year cheer by adding {{tls|Happy New Year 2016}} to user talk pages.</small>}} | |||
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| :I'll second that. Happy new year and happy editing {{yo|Mark Arsten}}! ] (]) 17:00, 31 December 2015 (UTC) | |||
| == Happy New Year, Mark Arsten! == | |||
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| '''Mark Arsten''',<br />Have a prosperous, productive and enjoyable ], and thanks for your contributions to Misplaced Pages. ] <sup style="font-family:Times New Roman;">] ]</sup> 23:42, 31 December 2015 (UTC) | |||
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| :<div style="float:left">''{{resize|88%|Send New Year cheer by adding {{tls|Happy New Year fireworks}} to user talk pages.}}'' | |||
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| == Happy New Year, Mark Arsten! == | |||
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| '''Mark Arsten''',<br />Have a prosperous, productive and enjoyable ], and thanks for your contributions to Misplaced Pages. —] <span title="Canadian!" style="color:red">🍁</span> (] · ]) 17:29, 1 January 2016 (UTC) | |||
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| :<div style="float:left">''{{resize|88%|Spread the WikiLove; use {{tls|Happy New Year 2016}} to send this message}}''</div> | |||
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| :''By the way, did you know that was the last edit made in 2015, and is the first edit of 2016? (Times in UTC, of course).'' —] <span title="Canadian!" style="color:red">🍁</span> (] · ]) 17:29, 1 January 2016 (UTC) | |||
| == Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Design42Day == | |||
| Hello, I was convinced to have commented to the discussion but eventually I missed to push the botton "save page". I just found the unsaved page (one of the many open pages in my Firefox), but when I tried to save the page I noted in the meanwhile the discussion was closed. I had voted to keep and I would apprecciate my comment was added to the discussion, then you or others would be welcome to re-asses the consensus and to re-close the discussion (I would not complain if the delete close will be confirmed). For the record, this was the text of my comment: '''''Keep''', if I am not missing something, in addition to the already mentioned '']'', the article contains multiple reliable sources, such as two articles from '']'' ( ) and an article from '']'' (). The fact they are in Italian does not make them unreliable (eg., '']'' is the major and most authoritative newspaper in Italy)''. Thanks in advance. ] 07:42, 3 January 2016 (UTC) | |||
| :Sure, I'll undelete and relist it. ] (]) 01:52, 4 January 2016 (UTC) | |||
| == Deletion of an orphaned file == | |||
| Hi Mark, you recently deleted the file ]. I had actually reinserted it back into the article about 10 minutes before you deleted it. I think it serves a purpose in there as the original logo of the political party. Is it possible to have the file restored? Thanks, ] (]) 00:35, 6 January 2016 (UTC) | |||
| :Alright, it's back. ] (]) 00:37, 6 January 2016 (UTC) | |||
| ::Thank you. ] (]) 00:40, 6 January 2016 (UTC) | |||
| == ] == | |||
| Five or six years later, Jimarey is return as an IP ] to focus on Chris Brown or others. ] ] (]) 04:26, 6 January 2016 (UTC) | |||
| :Looks like someone already blocked the IP. ] (]) 22:13, 6 January 2016 (UTC) | |||
| == Protected edit request on 7 January 2016 == | |||
| {{edit fully-protected|User:Mark Arsten|answered=y}} | |||
| <!-- Be sure to state UNAMBIGUOUSLY your suggested changes; editors who can edit the protected page need to know what to add or remove. Blank edit requests WILL be declined. --> | |||
| <!-- Begin request --> | |||
| I manage Kate Upton and she has requested to change her picture on her WIki page to something other then Game Of War. Please help me edit the image? Contact me at Todd@KateUpton.com if you have any questions | |||
| This would really help me! | |||
| Thank you!! | |||
| <!-- End request --> | |||
| ] (]) 20:31, 7 January 2016 (UTC) | |||
| :You should discuss this at ]. I will copy this message there. — Martin <small>(] · ])</small> 20:38, 7 January 2016 (UTC) | |||
| :Hi ], sorry about how confusing our image policies are. Is there a specific image or type of image you're thinking of for a replacement? ] (]) 22:47, 7 January 2016 (UTC) | |||
| @ ] Thanks for the quick reply, not sure how this works. Any picture that is not to revealing and is not associated with "Game of War" of Kate will suffice. Perhaps one that looks more professional and clearly captures her face. | |||
| :], Alright, I've swapped it out for the picture of her that had been at the top of the article until last Spring. I think it's better than the Game of War once at least. We don't have too many available pictures that meet our freely licensed criteria, the ones we do have are here: ]. If a photographer uploads a picture of her under the free licence in the future we could add that as well, but I understand that's probably not a priority for most photographers. Let me know if there's anything else I can help with. ] (]) 02:54, 8 January 2016 (UTC) | |||
| == Request for copy of deleted article == | |||
| Hi Mark, | |||
| Would it be possible for you to userfy a copy of the recently deleted ] article so I can see about improving it? Thank you. ] (]) 21:04, 7 January 2016 (UTC) | |||
| :Sure, I think that would be alright. It's now at ]. ] (]) 22:47, 7 January 2016 (UTC) | |||
| ::Thanks - appreciate it. ] (]) 17:19, 8 January 2016 (UTC) | |||
| == Providence Park == | |||
| I would like to retrieve the file history from ] for reference on ]. ] (]) 02:27, 9 January 2016 (UTC) | |||
| :Also, please ] when this message has been answered. ] (]) 02:28, 9 January 2016 (UTC) | |||
| ::{{reply|MB298}} Sorry, I'm not sure I understand what you want me to do here. ] (]) 02:35, 9 January 2016 (UTC) | |||
| :::Retrieve the table that displays the history of the uploads. For example, on ], there was a previous "Sunset-apollos.gif" that was replaced with a png version. It lists the uploads of the gif file above the file history of the current version. ] (]) 04:28, 9 January 2016 (UTC) | |||
| ::::Ok, I think I understand now, I've added the information. ] (]) 19:43, 12 January 2016 (UTC) | |||
| == Betty X Musician BLP == | |||
| I'd like to request that the article for the musician ] be restored. In the discussion it was stated that it was an "ill-sourced" BLP, which simply isn't true. Even a cursory amount of research shows that this person is an established and notable musician that has worked with some pretty well-known people (Al Jourgensen, Martin Atkins, Patty Quatro, etc.). While the article needed some revisions to clean it up and provide sources for some of the comments (which are readily available online), I see no valid reason for the deletion of this article; it does the usefulness of Misplaced Pages a disservice when we remove legitimate content. Thanks for your time. <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 02:49, 18 January 2016 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
| :The version of the article that was deleted didn't cite any sources, actually. If you can find some good sources feel free to create a ] that includes them and we can look at restoring the article. Let me know if you have any questions. ] (]) 18:11, 21 January 2016 (UTC) | |||
| ==Configuring Pending Changes for Daniel Day-Lewis== | |||
| Why did you configure pending changes settings for Daniel Day-Lewis, just out of curiosity. <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 16:47, 21 January 2016 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
| :I don't recall anything about this article specifically, but generally I would look at the history and see how many instances of vandalism/BLP violations were generally occurring and the volume of edits overall before adding PC. ] (]) 18:14, 21 January 2016 (UTC) | |||
| == You've got mail == | |||
| {{YGM}} ] (]) 12:06, 26 January 2016 (UTC) | |||
| == Andrew Hussie protection == | |||
| Hi Mark, do you think the pending changes status on ] could now be revoked? The level of vandalism does not now seem excessive, with over a month without edits until one outbreak yesterday] ] 17:47, 5 February 2016 (UTC) | |||
| == Help with edit war == | |||
| Hello Mark, could you do something to block the user Vuca1990, He continues to add vital information without any source on ] I already told him, but it has now become an edit war, and it seems like he will never stop. He seems to be doing this on other articles as well. He goes on sports articles and credits Serbia as the official inheritor of Yugoslavia's medals, even tho the organizations doesn't agree with him, and therefore he adds no source for it, because it's just his own personal opinion. I hope you ahve the time to do something about this problem, thank you.] (]) 19:56, 5 February 2016 (UTC) | |||
| :Well, first things first, you have to make sure you don't edit war yourself (even if his changes are wrong you can't keep reverting). You might want to ask at a relevant Wikiproject to get more participation on the article. ] (]) 21:40, 7 February 2016 (UTC) | |||
| == Ides of March == | |||
| Strange. I don't remember doing that. <small class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 00:33, 7 February 2016 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
| :No worries in any case. ] (]) 19:06, 7 February 2016 (UTC) | |||
| == Eyes == | |||
| {{archivetop|I'm sorry, but I don't think my talk page is the best place for continued discussion. ] (]) 21:38, 7 February 2016 (UTC)}} | |||
| Just asking some extra eyes on ]. Sorry to bug you, but probably some outside watchers would be helpful. ]]|<span style="color:orange;">GO</span> ] 20:16, 7 February 2016 (UTC) | |||
| :Yes please. Just be aware of and ] (]) 20:24, 7 February 2016 (UTC) | |||
| ::Is there a reason why you are being creepy and stalking another editor's edits {{u|LynnWysong}}? '''<span style="text-shadow:7px 7px 8px Black;">]]</span>''' 20:40, 7 February 2016 (UTC) | |||
| ::::Because the edits involve me. What is your excuse for creeping {{u|Cassianto}}? | |||
| :::::The request to Mark had nothing to do with you; you weren't mentioned, insinuated, or pinged. So go and get yourself a life. '''<span style="text-shadow:7px 7px 8px Black;">]]</span>''' 21:01, 7 February 2016 (UTC) | |||
| ::::::Are you for real, {{u|Cassianto}}? ] (]) 21:06, 7 February 2016 (UTC) | |||
| :::::::I am, yes. Although I suspect you're more ]. '''<span style="text-shadow:7px 7px 8px Black;">]]</span>''' 21:20, 7 February 2016 (UTC) | |||
| ::::::::You're calling me a troll? What is your justification for that uncivil remark? ] (]) 21:27, 7 February 2016 (UTC) | |||
| :::::::::You start arguments, upset people, harass other editors, stalk contributions, and you do all this from behind a keyboard. What would you call it? '''<span style="text-shadow:7px 7px 8px Black;">]]</span>''' 21:32, 7 February 2016 (UTC) | |||
| ::::::::::Now you are casting aspersions? ] (]) 21:34, 7 February 2016 (UTC) | |||
| *I can try to find time to look, but I'll probably have my eyes on ] most of the night. ] (]) 20:41, 7 February 2016 (UTC) | |||
| * I looked and find this strange: "]s, a well-known Colonial Spanish Horse", - "horses, a horse", but don't know how to fix it. Why do I read a Dr. title? Why are there refs in the lead which should only summarize sourced info from the article body? - Perhaps horses are different from music? --] (]) 20:47, 7 February 2016 (UTC) | |||
| ::"Why are there refs in the lead which should only summarize sourced info from the article body? - Perhaps horses are different from music?" Been trying to fix that {{u|Gerda Arendt}}. Not having much luck. ] (]) 21:03, 7 February 2016 (UTC) ] (]) 21:06, 7 February 2016 (UTC) | |||
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| ==Luka Modrić== | |||
| Hi Mark, I've started a requested GOCE copy-edit to ], which you set a stable version of on 18:55, 2 January 2014. The c/e will take me a few days; it might be a good plan to wait until I've finished befor re-reviewing the article and approving the changes. I'll post an edit summary announcing that I've finished my c/e. Cheers, ] (]) 23:42, 9 February 2016 (UTC) | |||
| :I don't recall ever editing that article, so don't worry about me jumping in now. ] (]) 00:45, 10 February 2016 (UTC) | |||
| ::No worries; you didn't edit but you set autoreview protection ; your notice still appears in the edit window and I wondered whether you wanted to re-review. Cheers, ] (]) 01:20, 10 February 2016 (UTC) | |||
| :::C/e {{done}}. Cheers, ] (]) 22:54, 15 February 2016 (UTC) | |||
| == Ben 10 vandalism == | |||
| The ] article has been subject to frequent IP vandalism since I've been watching it. (about October last year) Do you think you could give it semi protection? <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 13:54, 12 February 2016 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
| :Well, you might want to post a request at ]. It's generally best to get requests logged there. ] (]) 04:02, 16 February 2016 (UTC) | |||
| == Request to restore deleted page - Betty X == | |||
| Betty X is an influential female musician, conceptual artist, and songwriter that first made her impact in Seattle during the 1990's. She has been described by Seattle publications as a "Dangerously sexy blend of poisonous and volatile apocalyptic-metal with sarcastic aggro female vocals." Betty X has become one of the most recognized names in conceptual art, post-apocalyptic rock - not just in Seattle, but in Austin and Los Angeles, as well. She continues to be a powerful influence for female singers/songwriters/artists/musicians and participates on many panel discussions and appearances along with Patti Quatro and others, in addition to her live performances and collaborations with such bands as Ministry and Pigface. | |||
| Betty X is currently gearing up to release her fifth solo album, which is being co-produced by the legendary Al Jourgensen of Ministry fame, confirming her presence as a current and relevant musician. This article supports the claim that Betty X has played with Ministry,,<ref>http://www.ontourmonthly.com/ministry-spreads-the-word-at-the-bomb-factory-in-dallas/</ref> and removes any question of the claim's validity. | |||
| This article,<ref>http://www.xmag.com/archives/13-09-mar06/feature4.html</ref> as well as this book excerpt,,<ref>https://books.google.com/books?id=le5Sr5YCyk4C&pg=PA130&lpg=PA130&dq=%22Betty+X%22+%2B+Pigface&source=bl&ots=BRPDTk1w8T&sig=EyYGbKYns_lyApJYIvZJ-0pCsDk&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi7g8PLhfjKAhWCeSYKHWQQDE04ChDoAQglMAI#v=onepage&q=%22Betty%20X%22%20%2B%20Pigface&f=false</ref> confirm and validate her work with Martin Atkins and Pigface: Tour Smart. | |||
| From her first band, Salon Betty, which performed with Alice In Chains and other influential Seattle bands, to being featured on the new Surgical Meth Machine (Al Jourgensen's new project) to be released April 15th on Nuclear Blast records, Betty X continues to be relevant in the music industry. | |||
| Betty X is affiliated with Salon Betty, Satan in High Heels, Ministry, Pigface, Sheep on Drugs, and Surgical Meth Machine. She has current websites and fan pages including,<ref>https://bettyx.bandcamp.com/</ref>,<ref>https://www.facebook.com/BettyXOfficial/?pnref=lhc</ref>,<ref>https://twitter.com/bettyxofficial</ref>,<ref>https://www.reverbnation.com/bettyx</ref>.<ref>https://myspace.com/bettyx</ref> It would be a detriment to the history of female artists and musicians, as well as the history of post-apocalyptic rock, music in Seattle, etc. | |||
| With all due respect, I am requesting that this page, which has been active for over 10 years, be fully restored. Any claims that were deemed to be without validation will be updated, as well as any other pertinent information. Not only does the removal of this page have an impact on booking agents, etc., to research Betty X, but it also hinders the education of younger generation conceptual artists, musicians, singers, and songwriters. <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 20:29, 14 February 2016 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
| {{reflist talk}} | |||
| :FYI MA this thread ] has already answered this persons questions. I have directed the to ] as well. Cheers and enjoy your week. ]|] 21:05, 14 February 2016 (UTC) | |||
| :Alright, see my response above to the last person who asked about her, but basically I'd recommend creating a new draft. ] (]) 03:56, 16 February 2016 (UTC) | |||
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| :You're welcome, glad to help. I figured I'd branch out into some image work since there's plenty to be done! ] (]) 01:48, 15 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
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| Hi Mark. The file is not orphaned anymore (broken file link). --] 22:37, 1 March 2016 (UTC) | |||
| Please restore this material ] so it can be merged into ] or merge it there yourself. Thanks. ] (]) 01:59, 15 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
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== Changes in Ranveer Singh's page == | ||
| Hi Mark, | |||
| I can't believe you were convinced by ] and deleted the page ]. He was clearly a notable person, with hours of work put on creating his article. A shame to Misplaced Pages ] (]) 10:54, 15 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| I'm Ranveer Singh's manager. (Page URL: https://en.wikipedia.org/Ranveer_Singh ) The info panel wrongly mentions his relatives to from the Kapoor family. I tried to remove this data from the page and also change his profile picture but it keeps the original, incorrect information. Would request you to help me make these changes and get them to stay on the page. | |||
| :Well, you're free to take it to ] if you like. ] (]) 16:44, 15 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| Thanks. | |||
| == Nadine_Dorries_and_accusations_of_nepotism == | |||
| ] (]) 07:53, 2 March 2016 (UTC) | |||
| As you have locked the page please read my comments here | |||
| :Hi ], I would recommend you post to ] to explain the changes that you wish to make to the article, providing sources to back them up if possible. That way other people who are familiar with the subject can help evaluate and make changes to the article. ] (]) 03:57, 8 March 2016 (UTC) | |||
| ==] nomination of ]== | |||
| http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Biographies_of_living_persons/Noticeboard#Nadine_Dorries_and_accusations_of_nepotism | |||
| ] | |||
| {{Quote box|quote=<p>If this is the first article that you have created, you may want to read ].</p><p>You may want to consider using the ] to help you create articles.</p>|width=20%|align=right}} | |||
| A tag has been placed on ] requesting that it be speedily deleted from Misplaced Pages. This has been done under ], because the article appears to be about a person or group of people, but it does not ] how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the ], such articles may be deleted at any time. Please read more about ]. | |||
| If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may '''contest the nomination''' by ] and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be removed without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with ]. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the deleting administrator. <!-- Template:Db-notability-notice --><!-- Template:Db-csd-notice-custom --> ] (]) 08:49, 5 March 2016 (UTC) | |||
| and consider reenstating the headline in a form as I suggested <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 11:27, 15 September 2013 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
| :I |
:I only created a redirect, but thanks for the note. ] (]) 03:50, 8 March 2016 (UTC) | ||
| == Reworking previously deleted Michael de Claro biography, now with references == | |||
| You're the one who locked the page - before we'd finished discussing it, to block me out. I provided the link everyone asked for. Now you've decided it doesn't matter what my arguments are - you're going to ignore them. | |||
| Hi Mark, the Michael de Claro biography I wrote a few years ago was deleted due to the lack of references. I now have the references for the article and would also like to update the content but it is no longer available. <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 11:20, 7 March 2016 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
| : |
:Hi, the best thing to do would be to work on a ] of the article until it is sourced. I can move the deleted revisions there for you if you want. ] (]) 03:50, 8 March 2016 (UTC) | ||
| == Request for information == | |||
| Could you expand on that? Just the word "Unconvincing" is a cop out. You've gone from saying you're slinging a deaf ear to dismissing everything I've said with one vague word. But you're unwilling to say how or why or to offer an argument that I could counter. You haven't made any argument to date at all. All you've done is lock the page and before you'd even heard what I had to say. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 21:54, 15 September 2013 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
| :Well, you were trying to put a negative slant on an article about a living person without the use of reliable sources, then all you've done on the BLPN page to back up said negative information is offer unreliable sources. That is totally ]. We take a very dim view of people who come here to push their POV, see ] for details. ] (]) 22:13, 15 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| I have been editing wikipedia from quite sometime now. Could I become an admin. Is there any criteria or similar for such. I love editing wikipedia and providing positive information always. <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 14:47, 22 March 2016 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
| :Hi, anyone can become an admin if they are involved with the project long enough and do good work. People who vote at ] often have very high standards (sometimes comically high) about who they will support. Generally most people who succeed at RFA have a been active for more than a year and have more than 6,000 edits. Writing quality articles and participating in deletion work and counter-vandalism is generally looked on very well at RFA. So if you enjoy doing those things, you will eventually have a good chance at becoming an admin. Let me know if you have any questions. ] (]) 20:22, 23 March 2016 (UTC) | |||
| == Closed AfD where article was never deleted? == | |||
| No, I was giving a clear concise title. "Nepotism" which is exactly the word for the issue in question. I have moved half way in suggesting that it be changed to "Allegations of Nepotism" or something similar. I do not see how there can be any objection to that. That is what the issue is about - whether employing your daughters as an MP is appropriate. The title as you've put it completely fails to express that her employing her daughter is contentious. A bare statement that she employs her relatives ignore the whole point about why those details appeared in the newspaper at all. | |||
| Hi Mark, you closed this AfD https://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Andrew_de_Burgh in December, but the article still remains & the subject (it's a promotional autobio) continues to edit it. Not sure why it never actually got deleted, can you address this please? ] (]) 20:48, 27 March 2016 (UTC) | |||
| Why is the Mirror article an unreliable source? Its not. I provided exactly what people were asking for - the exact words they asked for "Nepotism" and Dorries in a national newspaper. There are 200 MPs involved in this practice - in the many other articles in which they do not mention Dorries specifically they headline it with the word "Nepotism". I provided a Telegraph link for that. Nepotism is the one word in the English language for employing relatives. The issue of the 200 MPs (including Dorries) is given under Wikipedias own "Nepotism" page. | |||
| :Well, it looks like it was deleted after that Afd, but someone recreated it later and no one noticed for a while. Another admin has taken care of the recreation, thankfully. If they try to create it again we can just ] the title. ] (]) 21:05, 27 March 2016 (UTC) | |||
| == Dhudhi == | |||
| I happen to think she has practiced Nepotism but the title "Allegations of Nepotism" doesn't have my slant on it in any way at all. It is a totally neutral title saying what the issue is all about. As opposed to that being altogether absent in your title. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 22:41, 15 September 2013 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
| :The mirror is indeed a poor source to be basing negative BLP information off of. Also, I don't see why we should call it "Allegations of Nepotism" since there are no allegations being made in that section. We would need good sources that discuss the allegations to include that. ] (]) 00:01, 16 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| Hi Mark, you semi-protected ] in December for three months. That expired last week and in the last couple of days one anon and one new user account have added a load of content that simply doesn't meet V, RS etc and appears in part to be likely copyright violations. I've just reverted that lot. | |||
| "The mirror is indeed a poor source to be basing negative BLP information off of". Its only being used as a source (because others asked for it) to establish that what she was being accused of is "nepotism" specifically. They asked for that exact word - the article does that - so its a perfect source. Its not being used as a source to establish whether or not the allegation is true - only that there is an allegation (there is -its there) so your argument about "basing negative BLP information off" is besides the point. I was asked to provide something specific and I did. | |||
| Of course, the anon may be the same person who subsequently registered a user account. I've left a welcome with the latter but it might be handy if you could spare the time to keep an eye on things there. I suspect we may well soon need another spell of semi, sorry. - ] (]) 13:27, 28 March 2016 (UTC) | |||
| I didn't come up with "Allegations of Nepotism" - someone else did for the discussion title so I accepted that. That she employs her relatives is only of note because it is contentious and because it is regarded as nepotism and a practice that the chairman of the Committee on Standards in Public Life said should be banned | |||
| :Ok, I'll take a look. ] (]) 00:51, 1 April 2016 (UTC) | |||
| == Johnny Garrett == | |||
| You'll allow a little piece that mentions the fact that she employs her relatives but demand that we omit that it is a matter of controversy. That's the only reason it appears in the source. I'm the one who created the section. I read it in my local newspaper and thought it was significant enough to add to her page. | |||
| ] may need to be re-evaluated. In South by Southwest they released a movie loosely based on the case '']'' http://schedule.sxsw.com/2016/events/event_FS19784 and there had been previously a documentary and a fictional novel based on his case http://www.thelastworddocumentary.com/nl.php | |||
| I took the information from the source without putting any "negative slant" that you accuse me of at all - and chose the simplest most concise title possible "nepotism" to convey that aspect of it. But you've removed it and I can't change the article. So I suggest that you perhaps reintroduce the fact that her employing her daughters is controversial and regarded as nepotism by the Mirror and the Telegraph and most of the general public, rightly or wrongly, in whatever form of words or title you choose. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 00:55, 16 September 2013 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
| :I'd consider noting that her actions generated controversy, but I'd have to see a good source stating as much first. Any recommendations? ] (]) 00:58, 16 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| I could just write a new article with sourced info but I'm wondering if it's a good idea to do a DRV first? Either way I would like to recover the previous edit hitory. | |||
| What is the objecton to including the fact that it is regarded as nepotism by all those sources? That's what the controversy is. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 01:14, 16 September 2013 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
| ] (]) 23:25, 31 March 2016 (UTC) | |||
| :You'll have to bear with me here, I've got a lot of things going on at once. Which sources other than the Mirror describe her actions as nepotism? ] (]) 01:17, 16 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| :I wouldn't bother with a DRV in this case. The other version was hardly sourced at all, so we might as well just create a new article and let someone take it to AFD again if they still think it fails ] with all the new coverage. ] (]) 00:55, 1 April 2016 (UTC) | |||
| == Deletion of Delta Sigma Iota == | |||
| http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/mps-expenses/6435511/MPs-expenses-let-them-pay-for-nepotism-themselves.html | |||
| Hi Mark, I am reaching out regarding the deletion of the page for Delta Sigma Iota (https://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Delta_Sigma_Iota) | |||
| http://conservativehome.blogs.com/centreright/2009/06/in-praise-of-nepotism.html | |||
| The page was deleted in 2012 as a result of review which stated the organization did not have a national scope. However, since then the organization has expanded and has an official presence in over seven major universities http://www.deltasigmaiota.org/chapters--colonies.html in multiple states. Additionally, the organization has also been recognized by the National Asian Pacific Islander Pan-Hellenic Association (http://www.napahq.org/about/#organizations) | |||
| http://blogs.birminghampost.co.uk/news/2009/08/a-little-nepotism-is-a-good-th.html | |||
| :Hi, I'm not too familiar with the guidelines for these types of articles. The best thing to do would be to open a section about the article at deletion review, ]. Thanks, ] (]) 13:40, 5 April 2016 (UTC) | |||
| *I've left a note for them at ]. However my concern here is that seven chapters might not be what is considered as far as "scope of their activities is national or international in scale". They also left a link to a Google search, but a look at the coverage shows that much of it is trivial mentions by student newspapers at the handful of colleges that host chapters. The mentions are usually that they participated in something at their universities with other Greek organizations and it seems to all be in passing. They also linked to a userfied version of the page that contained copyvio from the official website - I'm more mentioning that just so that they see an explanation as to why this was deleted. To be honest, I don't entirely see where the past concerns at AfD have really been met, although I have no problem with them trying to make a new article at ]. ]] 06:33, 8 April 2016 (UTC) | |||
| ::Thanks for looking into that. I tend to agree with your analysis here. ] (]) 20:44, 11 April 2016 (UTC) | |||
| == ] You indefinitely locked down open editing nearly 3 years ago? A bit excessive == | |||
| http://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/mps-claim-more-now-than-they-did-before-the-expenses-scandal-8814520.html | |||
| Heads up! You locked down ] nearly 3 years ago. Is not that excessive and against the policy of anyone can edit? You might want to reconsider your indefinite block on a species of ]. ] (]) 21:04, 12 April 2016 (UTC) | |||
| http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/mp-has-three-family-members-on-his-staff-list-2063316.html | |||
| :It's unfortunate, but sometimes we get so much nonsense on a given page that we have to protect it from unregistered users. It's not actually against policy, see ] for the explanation. I don't recall much about this page specifically though. Would you like me to take another look? ] (]) 21:23, 12 April 2016 (UTC) | |||
| == Request to move recently deleted article to draftspace or userfy== | |||
| http://www.heraldscotland.com/comment/iain-macwhirter/goodbye-nepotism-and-tax-evasion-how-will-our-poor-mps-manage-1.929659 <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 01:30, 16 September 2013 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
| Hi Mark, would it be possible for you to move ] to draft space or my userspace so that it can be worked on or parts incorporated in the related ] article? There is a related ]. Thank you. ] (]) 21:30, 21 April 2016 (UTC) | |||
| :Unless I'm mistaken, none of those sources seem to mention Nadine Dorries. ] (]) 14:58, 16 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| :Ok, done. ] (]) 22:37, 21 April 2016 (UTC) | |||
| == Precious anniversary == | |||
| No they don't single out Nadine Dorries there are 200 MP's involved so they're not going to mention each one. But as someone who employs her daughters and who is an MP they clearly refer to her. | |||
| {{User QAIbox | |||
| These mention her: | |||
| | title = Four years ago ... | |||
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| | bold = talk | |||
| | normal = ... you were recipient<br /> no. ''']''' of ],<br /> a prize of QAI! | |||
| }} | |||
| --] (]) 06:48, 22 April 2016 (UTC) | |||
| Five years now! --] (]) 06:20, 22 April 2017 (UTC) | |||
| http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/10307458/MPs-expenses-How-MPs-could-avoid-the-trouble-and-strife.html | |||
| ... and six --] (]) 04:26, 22 April 2018 (UTC) | |||
| http://www.ukwirednews.com/news.php/4154-MPs-second-mortgages-and-nepotism-banned | |||
| ... and seven! --] (]) 11:17, 22 April 2019 (UTC) | |||
| This is about her: about 9 of the comments on the first page use the word "nepotism". | |||
| ... and eight - I find you a bit silent --] (]) 06:07, 22 April 2020 (UTC) | |||
| http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2012/06/19/nadine-dorries-pays-student-daughter-philippa-39k-_n_1609139.html <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 18:44, 16 September 2013 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
| == File restore request == | |||
| There are any number of blogs. | |||
| Hello, can you restore the following image files? | |||
| http://order-order.com/2010/08/25/keeping-it-in-the-family/ <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 18:49, 16 September 2013 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
| :] | |||
| :I don't know about the reliability of ukwirednews, but blogs and the Huffington Post are poor sources for a BLP. The Telegraph piece seems to be an op-ed piece, and we really can't change a header in an article because a phrase is indirectly used in one column like that. It seems like you're twisting and straining the sources to come to a certain conclusion here, so you can use negative language in this BLP. It doesn't seem like reliable sources at support the language you're trying to use here. ] (]) 18:58, 16 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| :] | |||
| :] | |||
| Thanks, ]</span> 04:40, 30 April 2016 (UTC) | |||
| :{{ping|Ryūkotsusei}} Sorry for the delay, I've restored the images. ] (]) 02:14, 3 May 2016 (UTC) | |||
| == India and Indic scripts == | |||
| I'm not twisting and straining - it took me hardly any time to find those. You have an absurd objection to including the word everyone uses for people employing their relatives in public service - nepotism. Not saying she's practised it - but that there is a controversy re nepotism. I've provided a MASS of evidence that that is the case. But I clearly should have taken the more-than-a-hint when you initially said you were going to give a deaf ear to anything I might say. | |||
| Hullo, | |||
| If you recall, I suggested above that you change the article to reintroduce the fact that employing the daughters is controversial because you removed it, and locked me out. If you're not prepared to do so, then their is nothing I can do about that. And if "nepotism" is a taboo word despite it being THE word for it - then so be it. But your approach which anyone can read above really does you no credit. I've had enough so won't be making any more comments. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 19:35, 16 September 2013 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
| First I noticed that you blocked edition of the Misplaced Pages page for ] indefinitely so much so that even the most basic edits can't be done | |||
| == Righdamhna reinstated == | |||
| Second, there's a so-called "consensus" on Indic scripts that goes back quite a long time ago and was wondering if a new vote could be organised? (I don't think there was any initial voting to be frank) | |||
| See - this editor just doesn't get it, I was about to warn him but I'm leaving it to you if you don't mind - you were the closing Admin and turned it into the redirect, and I've already warned him so many times he may not take me seriously. An IP has changed it back to the redirect. ] (]) 15:03, 15 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| :Thanks for the heads' up, protected now. ] (]) 16:44, 15 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| == Gundam article == | |||
| The reasons are as follows: | |||
| Please userify the Timelines of Gundam to my user page; I have been greatly distracted with side drama, but whether or not I assert 150-300 primary and secondary sources the page was incomplete and a multi billion dollar franchise comprising hundreds of works far surpassing ] in scope and complexity. The ] page has numerous resources including secondary sources. Gundam's complexity, like Macross and other works have numerous articles about this and NRVE and BEFORE show that the complex work needs to be in appropriate context somewhere and a list of media as they are presented chronologically serves a clear and demonstrated purpose. I feel that this deletion was wrong because it was not "any effort to re-create or uphold the illusion of the original fiction by omitting real-world info." the biggest difference is that in the thirty years of a consistent timeline comprising hundreds of hours of video and thousands of pages contained in books/mangas and additional supplementary material is important to address the placement of the works themselves because Gundam is one of the few series that spans hundreds of years. Even a page like ] including the inclusion of its chronology on that page helps readers understand the subject and that is why it should be included. At this point, I'd prefer it userified if my arguments alone are not enough to justify its inclusion at this point. ] (]) 15:44, 15 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| The consensus seems to be very strictly enforced on any India related page but Indic scripts are used broadly on say the Misplaced Pages page of ], where's the logic in that? | |||
| :Ok, userfied it. ] (]) 16:44, 15 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| Secondly, the ban against Indic script stemmed from the controversy of what language should be used to write the native names of Indian personalities eg local languages like ] for ] and ]? Or ], the official language, for everyone? But where's no language controversy like in writing ] in Hindi, why the fuss? | |||
| == Continued reversions on femininity == | |||
| Thirdly, I personally favour scrapping the ban by using the same policies as applied to personalities who come from countries where there are multiple official languages or people who are of "foreign" origins when compared to their current nationality or state of residence. | |||
| Please note that the IP user has continued to revert-war on ]. See and - other editors have reverted and the IP user shows no signs of stopping the edit war. ] (]) 18:10, 15 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| :Ok, I think our IP friend needs to take a break from reverting for a while. ] (]) 18:14, 15 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| For instance, Nobel Laureate ] has her name in ] despite the fact that ] has two official languages. Her religious background was here seen as a criterion for picking the right language. | |||
| == Northkeep Merge == | |||
| Similar solutions based on background could be used for Indian personalities. | |||
| I have just completed the ] merge as per the AFD you closed, but I may not have done it correctly/completely. If you have a few minutes could you make sure it has been merged correctly and fix anything I left out? Thanks.] (]) 18:23, 15 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| :Looks good for the most part. The only thing is you should have stated in which page you were merging from. It's pretty obvious looking at it, but it's best to include that in the edit summary anyway. Thanks for doing that merge. ] (]) 18:32, 15 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| What are your views? | |||
| == Gone Home edit == | |||
| ] (]) 23:33, 2 May 2016 (UTC) | |||
| You cant deny that what i said about it is true though <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 19:31, 15 September 2013 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
| :You may be right, yes, but you shouldn't add that to the article. ] (]) 21:07, 15 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| :Hello, ] still can be edited, just not by new accounts and unregistered user. I haven't been very active on this article though. The best thing to do would be to post your proposed changes on ] for consideration on that article. Also, ] would be a good place for general concerns about the subject. Sorry I can't be of more help. ] (]) 02:19, 3 May 2016 (UTC) | |||
| == Paul Bannon == | |||
| ::{{ping|Manish2542}} has very nice point. The consensus may have changed. The present approach makes no sense at all. ] (]) 18:37, 5 May 2016 (UTC) | |||
| ::{{ping|Mark Arsten}} Thank you for your answer, appreciated. That's weird, I'm a long time editor and a registered user, I'll try again then. I'll try to do the necessary on the ] page but I need the support of veterant users like you so if you wanna help, feel free | |||
| How could it possibly be vandalism if links are being ADDED to the page???? <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 22:16, 15 September 2013 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
| :Thank you Mark, IP now reverting ], could you do the same? Thanks, ] (]) 22:23, 15 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| Thanks {{ping|Mohsinpathania}} I'll need help to raise the issue and organise a vote, can you help? | |||
| Hey JMHamo how about answering the question??? <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 22:30, 15 September 2013 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
| ::IP hopping, ''sigh'' ] (]) 22:34, 15 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| :::Ok, protected that too. IP, I encourage you to propose changes on the talk page instead of edit warring over them. Thanks, ] (]) 00:02, 16 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| ] (]) 22:15, 10 May 2016 (UTC) | |||
| Sigh all you want. Struway2 saw your vandalism and reverted because it was ADDING information. For your information a vandal is someone who routinely undoes work. And Mark there is no need to protect pages when information is being added. It does not matter who does it. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 20:01, 16 September 2013 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
| :Regardless of the merit of your additions, ] is considered disruptive (hence why I protected). Please make your case on the talk page. ] (]) 20:07, 16 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| == |
== Ashley van Haeften == | ||
| Hello. Please unlock this article because I want to work on it to improve it very much. My draft is at ] (]) 18:34, 5 May 2016 (UTC) | |||
| Hey Mark, thanks for the quick response to my request at ] for ]. Before I made the request I was not aware of as I assume you were not either. Looks like the page had just finished its second year long semi-protection in a row. Judging by the immediate vandalism, looks like we might need a two year protection or maybe indefinite semi-protection. Either way, thanks for taking the time to look over ], it seems like whenever you don't it takes two-three days to get a response just for the reports to go stale. <font color="#BA181F">''']</font> <font color="#BA181F"><small>]</small></font>''' 00:29, 16 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| : |
:Hi, last I recall, this article was a pretty clear case of ]. Has that changed with recent coverage? We'd usually need to see a lot of coverage around one event or coverage about more than one event to have an article on someone. ] (]) 18:57, 5 May 2016 (UTC) | ||
| ::That probably related to banning/resignation issue. Beyond that he is recently notable for initiating motion to remove Ammon Geshun, as most prolific Commons uploader, as a privacy expert assisting UK Parliament Committee etc. Also notability standards for Chair of Wikimedia UK should be on par with that of Chair of Wikimedia USA., see , where the notability standards for WP:N, WP:BIO, WP:BLP1E, WP:GNG etc. were discussed in considerable length, comments were made that Chairs of Wikimedia were automatically notable, .. We extend this favour to Wikipedians with marginal notability. (Not marginally notable non-Wikipedians, though. We take care of our own) etc. Van Haeftan has many more reliable citations compared to Devouad. ] (]) 22:57, 5 May 2016 (UTC) | |||
| :::Seems like the motion, uploading, and testimony have only garnered fairly trivial coverage. I'm not inclined to unprotect for that reason. Also, I disagree that we should hold Wikipedian biographies to a different standard than run-of-the-mill BLPs. ] (]) 16:02, 6 May 2016 (UTC) | |||
| ::::The consensus at the last Florence Devouard DR (previously linked) was "Keep - there's is minimal enough coverage to meet the guidelines for WP:N". The same standard should be applied here for van Haeften (a past Wikimedia Chair) since there is reliable media coverage of him beyond a BLP1E event and which adequately meets the minimal coverage guidelines for WP:N far better than in Devouard's case. From , the coverage for the testimony event was not limited just to BBC Television and he is notable for at least 2 events. ] (]) 04:41, 7 May 2016 (UTC) | |||
| :::::As I said before, we would have to see significant coverage for more than one event. I'm not seeing anywhere near that level of coverage. If you disagree with me on this, you are free to open a ]. Note that you should talk to the admin who actually deleted the article first though (]). ] (]) 05:08, 7 May 2016 (UTC) | |||
| ::::::IMO ] is the best approach here, as the existing article covered most of the proposed article, so it should be undeleted and expanded if there is consensus for it, so that attribution is kept. Based on the sources at ], I wouldnt undelete it, but I also would very likely vote delete wrt ] unless I found something not already on the article. <span style="font-variant:small-caps">] <sup>'''(])'''</sup></span> 05:56, 7 May 2016 (UTC) | |||
| :::::::{{ping|John Vandenberg}} I've added several new sources over at ] and c/e'd it some. The deleted article had 2 only sources and was deleted with the summary ''G10: Attack page or negative unsourced BLP: bio based on one event and very low quality sources for a bio; contributor has marked themselves as retire''. All these defects have been addressed with the present BLP proposal for a notable and active Wikimedian. ] (]) 19:59, 7 May 2016 (UTC) | |||
| ::::::::Using ] as a source isnt likely to help your cause... As I said, I am not seeing enough notability. ] applies. No admin is going to independently unprotect unless the proposed article is unquestionably notable. So you need to work with other editors to get consensus, either on that talk page or at ]. <span style="font-variant:small-caps">] <sup>'''(])'''</sup></span> 06:59, 8 May 2016 (UTC) | |||
| :::::::::{{ping|John Vandenberg}} Under WP:BLPDEL the deleting admin should be prepared to disclose if the subject had requested deletion. This also seems a case of past administrative "summary deletion" so it would be inappropriate to approach the community via DR (which is a "review" process) since this was not a community deletion. Because the Signpost report (which is intensively peer reviewed throughout Wikidom) shows you had a COI situation with the article subject, I am merely requesting you to administratively restore the article of this notable former Wikimedia UK Chair to the one proposed so that interested editors can work on it and bring it to near GA status. ] (]) 09:46, 8 May 2016 (UTC) | |||
| ::::::::::Of course I am willing to declare such a thing. As far as I can recall, the subject did not request deletion, and a quick check of my emails doesnt show anything related at that time. | |||
| ::::::::::If I have a COI, I should be taking no action at all. <span style="font-variant:small-caps">] <sup>'''(])'''</sup></span> 10:19, 8 May 2016 (UTC) | |||
| :::::::::::Thanks. To assist, the dates in 2012 were 11.July (Fae elected), 13.July or thereabouts (An email to the private chapters list, the copy which 'Tony1' claims you shared with him), 01.August (your admin deletion of Fae's BLP article). The article as it stood then is a far cry from the present BLP proposal. So perhaps {{ping|Mark Arsten}} can now take the call on unlocking the article so it can be recreated for the proposed content - ie. if you have no objections ? ] (]) 14:15, 8 May 2016 (UTC) | |||
| ::::::::::::Neither John nor I will be undeleting or unprotecting the article for the reasons outlined above. You are free to seek outside review from admins in another venue, but I doubt you'll have much success, to be honest. ] (]) 17:38, 8 May 2016 (UTC) | |||
| :::::::::::::Looking at the deleted article, it was deleted as an attack page and it was entirely negative. Most of the information was written in a more neutral fashion at ]. ], if you are seeking an article on this subject, I think it would be best if you started from scratch with a draft (in Draft space, not article talk space). I can't imagine there is any material in the deleted article that you would want to use and there was only one contributor and one contribution. If you create a worthy article, that meets notability standards, then the page can be unprotected and you can move the draft to main space. ] <sup style="font-family:Times New Roman;">] ]</sup> 21:35, 8 May 2016 (UTC) | |||
| ::::::::::::::Thanks Liz. Have done so at ] ] (]) 07:08, 9 May 2016 (UTC) | |||
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== A barnstar for you! == | ||
| {| style="background-color: #fdffe7; border: 1px solid #fceb92;" | |||
| I don't see how you got consensus for delete out of ]. The nom's claim that the only mention of it since 2008 was a passing one in 2012 got debunked promptly when an editor pointed out a significant mention in 2011 and I can . Another vote said "delete ''or'' merge" and another was a delete that essentially argued some sort of "aid and comfort to the enemy" rationale rather than any legitimate policy-based reason. Clearly, no consensus existed in that discussion.--] <sub>] ]</sub> 04:00, 16 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| |rowspan="2" style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 5px;" | ] | |||
| :Ehh, I guess I could relist it if you feel that strongly about it. ] (]) 05:06, 16 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| |style="font-size: x-large; padding: 3px 3px 0 3px; height: 1.5em;" | '''The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar''' | |||
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| |style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;" | great job at keeping people like dwindu from malicious editing that damages wiki articles and violates the rules set by wikipedia ] (]) 00:23, 8 May 2016 (UTC) | |||
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| == Amber Heard == | |||
| == Removing AFDs from Wikiprojects == | |||
| Since it was you who applied pending changes to ] in January 2014, ] is worth a look.--'''''] <sup>]</sup>''''' 08:43, 4 June 2016 (UTC) | |||
| Hello. I've noticed a few articles that you have deleted because of an AFD discussion. While I'm not disputing the lack of notability on those articles, is there any reason that they can't just be redirected to another article, rather than completely being removed from Misplaced Pages? Specifically, the article for ] could have easily been redirected to another Transformers article, which would have prevented you from having to remove the link from so many other Transformers articles. It just seems to me that for navigational purposes, it would have been better to point that link somewhere else, rather than remove it from the project entirely. ] (]) 13:17, 16 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| :Well, deletion doesn't preclude redirection, so you're free to do that now if you wish. I tend to close Afds rather conservatively, so I usually won't redirect if most of the !voters voice support for deletion. There weren't that many participants in this discussion, though, so I grant that it wasn't completely clear what to do. ] (]) 14:56, 16 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| ::I understand, but what's the point in creating a redirect now, if the link would have to be re-added to all the articles that would use that link? I know that this was probably better suited for the AfD discussion, but I don't understand why it was necessary to remove all traces of that link from related articles. Wikiprojects have Redirect-Class for a reason, but deleting the article just removes the redirect from those projects, and lessens the possibility of that material being expanded. ] (]) 16:25, 16 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| :::Yes, the Afd is generally the place for this kind of thing, but anyway: usually when I delete an article I remove backlinks since there isn't any use to having a redlink to a deleted article. In some cases when I redirect I leave the backlinks in. I'm not sure that those links were doing very much good in this case though, since the redirect still doesn't lead to much discussion of the topic. If you feel strongly about it, you can revert my link removals in this case. ] (]) 16:30, 16 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| ::::Thanks for the reply, it's nothing personal against you. I personally don't have any problem creating redirects and adding redirect-class to the talk pages, but I don't know that it's worth it to undo all the work that you did just for a redirect. As a member of {{tl|WikiProject Transformers}}, I know that other members would prefer to at least leave a redirect as part of the project for deleted articles. Unfortunately, there is not enough activity on that project for those editors to participate in the AfD discussions...Thanks again for the clarification though! ] (]) 16:52, 16 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| == Deletion of page for Billy Kirsch == | |||
| ==Cheetah hunt== | |||
| You deleted my article on cheetah hunt.But why? | |||
| :I didn't delete your article, I just reverted one edit. I think the tone you used wasn't fit for an encyclopedia. We try to avoid addressing the reader as "you" and telling the user what a "great way to start your day" is not neutral. See ] for details. ] (]) 15:56, 16 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| Hi Mark, | |||
| == Request to have a look at Ready Flower wiki page == | |||
| I see that you deleted the page that had my biography on it. The page name was Billy Kirsch. In your deletion comments, you mentioned that the some of the information was not verifiable. You correctly refer to All Music to verify some of my credits. But additionally, if you do a search on wikipedia with my name, you'll see that I'm attributed as the author of many hits songs and song recordings in general. So my name and my credits are cross-reference throughout Misplaced Pages itself. | |||
| Hi, hope you are good. | |||
| Considering your comments on ], the page has been redone with an effort to quote secondary references. Altough some IPs keep reverting the page, i would request you to have a look on the changes by CaliforniaSun2013 and myself. Your unbiased opinion on the peer review has led us to believe that you are the best guide for us on this edit. | |||
| Thanks alot. | |||
| ]--] (]) 14:58, 16 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| :The important thing to do is to discuss the proposed changes on the article's talk page instead of continuing to revert. See ] for details. ] (]) 15:01, 16 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| I'd appreciate it if you can restore my page, since it really is legitimate. | |||
| ::Note that Chaklalajob/ThinkDone's edits have been based on a gross misrepresentation of a source - I have raised this on the article talk page and made it clear that if this occurs again, I shall ask that Chaklalajob/ThinkDone be blocked from editing. Given the clearly promotional tone of the edits, I suggest that Chaklalajob/ThinkDone familiarises him/herself with ] policy. ] (]) 15:15, 16 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| :::Ok, well, they won't be able to revert for a few days at least. ] (]) 15:22, 16 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| Thank you, | |||
| == Is it OK? == | |||
| Billy Kirsch <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 22:17, 5 June 2016 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
| Hello Sir ... ref. '''Shekhar Gurera''', do you feel that ] page is OK for submission? regards --] (]) 15:48, 16 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| : |
:Hi Billy, sorry for the late response, I haven't been very active on Misplaced Pages recently. Have you read our ] guideline? If you meet the standards there it will be possible to have your page restored. Let me know if you have any questions. ] (]) 19:05, 16 June 2016 (UTC) | ||
| :* a) Write the biography in prose (not list) b) don't use Hindi or other Wikipedias as reference, c) The Times of India is very helpful. Mark Arsten, I think their is an excellent one. Is not it? Add at least one-two more refs like that. No problem if its in Hindi. If you do not have online copy, you can refer offline too (a scanned copy of such papers might be helpful, don't upload in Misplaced Pages), d) I am not sure, how you own copyright of those images. 4) don't put references in a box. That's all for now. --<span style="background:orange;border:orange ridge">]</span><span style="color:blue;background:white;otit;border-bottom-style:ridge;">☸</span><span style="background:#57C738;border:green ridge">]</span> 17:05, 16 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| ::*Yes, very good advice that would probably help lead to success at DRV. ] (]) 17:09, 16 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| == ] == | |||
| Hello Sir ... thanks a lot for your collective advice ... a) biography is in prose, only ''Awards and Honors'' are in lists due to the reason of maximum info in less text b) Hindi wp link already removed c) as like there r more such references with some details , , d) putting references in a box was just to make them compact; that also been removed! ... Now kindly after having a fresh look at the page, can you please advise if i should ''Submit the page!'' <small>(link in the top tag of the page)</small> or ] If DRV, then can i please get brief technical help how to submit it? Regards --] (]) 04:53, 17 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| ::* a) actually the article is mainly a list at this moment. See other similar article for help: ]. b) Hindi Wiki —ok c) why did not you provide these links at the AFD? Those are superb. d) no, we don't put references in boxes. +++ e) it depends on you whether you want to DRV (DRV means "deletion review", a place where you can request to undelete your first article), or submit it at AFC/rewrite it. --<span style="background:orange;border:orange ridge">]</span><span style="color:blue;background:white;otit;border-bottom-style:ridge;">☸</span><span style="background:#57C738;border:green ridge">]</span> 08:35, 17 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| :::* And how do you own copyright of those cartoon images? Are you Shekhar Gurera ? --<span style="background:orange;border:orange ridge">]</span><span style="color:blue;background:white;otit;border-bottom-style:ridge;">☸</span><span style="background:#57C738;border:green ridge">]</span> | |||
| I believe that, after the AfD discussion, the article is safe to move back to mainspace. What do you say? --] (]) 10:46, 17 June 2016 (UTC) | |||
| ok sir, '''done''' ... a) now ''Awards and Honors'' is in prose form, c) what is AFD? these links from the prints are already there as S.No: 15, 16 & 17 in References e) as long as DRV is concerned v wont like to undelete the first article coz that might had some mistakes with less contents, v'll like to focus to replace this final edited with a lot efforts to fine tune it with maximum contents at d same name <small>(got deleted, due to some carelessness editing, may b due to d unawareness of DOs & DONTs)</small> but now v don't want to take risk of any wrong decision :D .. better if u please advise us the appropriate way of submission out of these two ways under d name '''Shekhar Gurera''' only<br /> | |||
| :I'd prefer to see better sourcing, but technically it can be moved to mainspace at this point. ] (]) 19:47, 21 June 2016 (UTC) | |||
| No, v r close associates to Mr Gurera, one of us is his younger son, the main photo clicked by him, he himself provided the necessary information to rectify the old one and now even a set of some clippings of his work, and v designed the collage from it for WP. regards --] (]) 15:23, 17 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| :: I have improved the sourcing and restored the article. Cheers! ] ] 18:49, 18 March 2019 (UTC) | |||
| * a) Remove all tripod links, b) remove all <small>small date formatting</small>, c) I have added few tags, fix those, d) this is the "Article for deletion (AFD)" ] --<span style="background:orange;border:orange ridge">]</span><span style="color:blue;background:white;otit;border-bottom-style:ridge;">☸</span><span style="background:#57C738;border:green ridge">]</span> | |||
| == ] == | |||
| *I think I'll just outright restore it when you guys are done working on it, since the Afd rationale is not valid anymore. ] (]) 18:26, 17 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| I think is potentially libelous and should be redacted. Can you help? ] (]) 17:05, 21 June 2016 (UTC) | |||
| ok .. v'll do as per the need .. i hv some doubts due to a big confusion, if u can also go thru it, and help us<br /> | |||
| :Thanks. ] (]) 19:45, 21 June 2016 (UTC) | |||
| * 1) as u refered ] for the format ... most of the pages r incomplete but at the Awards, Bibliography & Multi-media are already in points n dates form 2) as like u also likes these references with more details , , which were at S.No: 15, 16 & 17 in References ... but on the other moment these all have been deleted from the page | |||
| ::No prob, glad to help. ] (]) 19:47, 21 June 2016 (UTC) | |||
| ::*Laxman article has lots of prose content. And it is nice to see you have an article in that category to argue that writing in list is acceptable. You have not fixed the issues mentioned in my last post. In addition, send image permission to ]. I do not know what you mean by "Sunday Times" etc references were deleted. Those look fine. --<span style="background:orange;border:orange ridge">]</span><span style="color:blue;background:white;otit;border-bottom-style:ridge;">☸</span><span style="background:#57C738;border:green ridge">]</span> 02:59, 18 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| == ] == | |||
| Morning sir .. tkx! in any case, it also depend upon person to person that how much mentionable matter they have for prose or for lists. To fix the issues from the last post v need little more time. .. abt. ] excuse me, v r not exactly aware from the technicalities, was there any needful pending from ourside? .. Yeah, those references were actually attached / related to the one last section ''Comments'' with 4 points, which was been deleted / omitted this time, v r not aware what necessary needful v need to do for them. ragds ] (]) 05:30, 18 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| Hello. Is it possible to see what this article looked like when it was deleted (twice) please? I was just about to start a stub. I think it should definitely have an article as a public oil and gas company.] (]) 10:53, 29 June 2016 (UTC) | |||
| :Ok, looks like it's probably notable. I moved the history to ] for you. ] (]) 14:04, 29 June 2016 (UTC) | |||
| ** It still has few more issues. You were suggested to remove "all" tripod references. I am assuming good faith, but, please send permission to OTRS team as soon as possible, else those images may be deleted. Please remove all Hindi scripts from the article too. Do not use unnecessary bold formatting in the article. The article is in much better condition now. --<span style="background:orange;border:orange ridge">]</span><span style="color:blue;background:white;otit;border-bottom-style:ridge;">☸</span><span style="background:#57C738;border:green ridge">]</span> 15:52, 18 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| == Not Sure What to Make of This - Something Hinky: == | |||
| oh sir .. no need to put 'but' after 'good faith'{{smiley}} it was just a matter of slip from mind .. in fact, after posting my last message, it immediately striked me in mind abt d tripod links ... they hav already been removed within a few minutes .. hindi text / bold formatting has also been removed ... direct email permissions-commons@wikimedia.org for OTRS permission has also been sent for all the 4 images for this page ... now what else u feel pending?? regds ] (]) 18:46, 18 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| :Ok, it's back at ] now. ] (]) 19:00, 18 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| :* I have made some formatting changes. You may try ] <span style="background:orange;border:orange ridge">]</span><span style="color:blue;background:white;otit;border-bottom-style:ridge;">☸</span><span style="background:#57C738;border:green ridge">]</span> 19:01, 18 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| Hello, | |||
| thanks a lot Mark Arsten sir for your concern & efforts for reactivating d page {{smiley}}... also thanks to Titodutta sir for the same help editorially n technically {{smiley}}... regards ... good night!!! ] (]) 19:20, 18 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| :You're welcome, glad to help. ] (]) 19:43, 18 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| I don't know if this is something 'wrong' or 'bad', or something that goes against the TOS, but I came across something that just struck a chord within me that just felt wrong or 'off'. I was looking at the entry for ] the current Director of the National Reconnaissance Office (NOR) and I noticed it was created by a user named "]." I Also noticed that the content of the page was an almost verbatim reproduction of her official CV provided as a preamble to an official site visit she is making. I also know that TDRSS is the name of a military satellite system: the ] and which is an NRO-owned system. | |||
| == Pierre Fabre == | |||
| So I was thinking that perhaps it might be someone (or group of someones) who is employed by the NRO or one of their contractors, and I began a little digging. I quickly found that the user TDRSS is responsible for the creation and/or frequent editing of pages related to EVERY other director of the NRO as well: | |||
| Hi Mark, I had finally gotten the previous editors to delete this misleading information, and, unfortunately, it is here again. There is already a page for the Pierre Fabre of pharmaceutical company note. This page was created as a link from the "LONE SIGNAL" page. I am president of Lone Signal. My name is Pierre Fabre. As I had to explain to the last person who made this same edit, I don't believe the aim of Misplaced Pages is to spread misinformation; but people are going to get the wrong impression that this, unfortunately deceased, Pierre Fabre is the person who founded Lone Signal. That is not the case. Please let me know how I can be of help. Thanks. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 16:44, 16 September 2013 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
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| :I'm sorry, could you explain more clearly what you would like me to do here? ] (]) 16:54, 16 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
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| :Oh, I see I reverted your edit . We try to keep each article focused on one person. If you think the other Pierre is notable, you can create an article on him and add a ] to the other. ] (]) 16:58, 16 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
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| It struck me as highly unlikely that this person(s) is ''THAT'' uniquely interested, as a layman, in the current and past Directors NRO (most of then are downright unremarkable). The author(s) also has created or edited NUMEROUS other (NRO-related) pages, a volume of which is unlikely for a single layperson to create or maintain. Again I don't know if this is anything improper, or untoward, it just ''felt'' wrong - for whatever it's worth - but I could be completely off base. Please do what you will with this information (or even do nothing if that is apropriate). | |||
| Please feel free to contact me if you have any further questions or concerns: | |||
| == AfD Close == | |||
| ] (]) 22:44, 29 June 2016 (UTC) | |||
| Mark, you can probably just go ahead and close ]. There were only two delete !votes, and I changed mine after the article was significantly expanded. There's now a clear consensus for keep. I'd consider NACing it myself, were I not involved. ]]/] 12:39, 17 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| <br>Kind Regards<br> | |||
| :Ok, thanks, I'll take a look at it next time I get to the Afd queue. ] (]) 18:25, 17 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| :Hi Jeffrey, thanks for the detailed note. This is an interesting situation. There are a couple issues that I can see at a glance. One is that this may be a case of conflict-of-interest editing, if not paid editing. The other is the apparent copying. If he is copying public domain resources then that's not as big of a deal, but still needs to be looked into. It doesn't look like he has been too active lately but I will drop a note on his talk page. ] (]) 19:45, 30 June 2016 (UTC) | |||
| :: Hi, I'm TDRSS. No, I do not work for the NRO. I've used the handle 'tdrss' since the mid-to-late 1990s, when I worked on the satellite system while in college. Yes, I am interested in national security space history, which does include the NRO. But if you notice my edits, I also work on Air Force, SAC, and a variety of other topics. Since I'm well versed in using public domain information, I used the material from an NRO publication (available on their website) to fill the pages of the DNROs. Most of these folks had "lives" other than NRO, so their individual histories would include only a brief snippet of their NRO time. ] (]) 21:22, 6 December 2017 (UTC) | |||
| == Hello Mark, i am done editing and adding citations == | |||
| == Help == | |||
| To recap, you have kindly opened User:0811gv/Gilflo for my to edit since it was deleted due to not having any citations. I have added the citations/references needed. I hope this will allow the article to be revived now that it can be verifiable. Thank you again sincerely for your help in this matter and please let me know if there is anything else needed. ] (]) 17:59, 17 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| :I'm still not sure that there is enough coverage of him to demonstrate his notability, but you are free to appeal the deletion to ] if you think there is. Make sure to mention your draft there. ] (]) 19:12, 17 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| a Lot of his stuff is tv related which the "rules and guidelines" are Strict on what can and cant be used, when IMDB is usually the only thing that is used to track these kind of things for people. He was nominated for a grammy, as far as work he has done, I gave direct links to that, I don't understand what else is so needed. Misplaced Pages isn't even a reliable source to use whilst in school, but yet wiki is extremely strict on what can be used for validity. It doesn't make sense. There are many things that I left out on things he is doing and has done, but there is no direct links that can verify it as per the internet, magazine. ] (]) 21:14, 17 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| :Ok, well, if you used all the good sources you could find, you might as well go for ]. There may just not be enough sources though. BTW, you could ask for help at ], as well. ] (]) 21:20, 17 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| can it stay in the state (the purgatory domain) that it is in right now for a bit more? He is about to close a deal with Hasbro Inc. which he is doing a campaign for the twister game/product. Once this closes, it will be another huge source to add to the site, plus I will keep gathering more. Please let me know if this can be done. ] (]) 21:52, 17 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| ::Yeah sure, take all the time you need. ] (]) 22:47, 17 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| You're an admin, right? Can I ask, how to create a poll? If there is none, then how does an agreement in Misplaced Pages can be made? | |||
| https://www.facebook.com/jqharrison?fref=ts <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 02:52, 18 September 2013 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
| ] (]) 15:39, 1 July 2016 (UTC) | |||
| == Protection of ] == | |||
| :Well, we don't usually do "polls" per se. Usually if there's a dispute about an article we will just have a discussion between interested editors and try to judge consensus after people weigh in. Sometimes we'll do something closer to a vote, called ] or ] depending on the situation. Of course, if there's a discussion about banning someone or promoting someone to admin we basically do just hold a poll but it's not a pure vote in that strength of argument can be taken into account. ] (]) 15:54, 1 July 2016 (UTC) | |||
| Looks like you accidentally this page rather than ] it. Could you fix this? Thanks! ] (]) 23:11, 17 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| ==] nomination of ]== | |||
| :Good catch, my bad. ] (]) 23:16, 17 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| ] | |||
| {{Quote box|quote=<p>If this is the first article that you have created, you may want to read ].</p><p>You may want to consider using the ] to help you create articles.</p>|width=20%|align=right}} | |||
| A tag has been placed on ], requesting that it be speedily deleted from Misplaced Pages. This has been done under ], because the page appears to be a repost of material that was previously deleted following a ], {{#if:|at ]|such as at ]}}. Under the specified criteria, where a page has substantially identical content to that of a page deleted after debate, and any changes in the content do not address the reasons for which the material was previously deleted, it may be deleted at any time. | |||
| If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may '''contest the nomination''' by ] and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be removed without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with ]. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the deleting administrator, or if you have already done so, you can place a request ]. <!-- Template:Db-repost-notice --> <!-- Template:Db-csd-notice-custom --> ] (]) 19:23, 1 July 2016 (UTC) | |||
| == In Reply to ] concern== | |||
| :I don't know what a Zoffy is. It doesn't sound very notable though. ] (]) 19:29, 1 July 2016 (UTC) | |||
| ==Question== | |||
| Hello, Mark. If I removed anything, I am not conscious of it. This is what I added, ''"In 2013, he took over the role of Jason Stevens from Drew Fuller, in the prequel/sequel to 2007's The Ultimate Gift, The Ultimate Life."'' How do you think I removed anything, and what did I remove? Thanks. ''''' ] (]) 02:37, 18 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| == Deletion review for ] == | |||
| :Replied on your talk page. ] (]) 02:45, 18 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| An editor has asked for ] of ]. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review.<!-- Template:DRVNote --> ] (]) 21:59, 3 July 2016 (UTC) | |||
| :Hello Mark. I am not sure what this is about but I've moved it to the bottom of your talk page so that you don't have to hunt for it. Cheers. ]|] 13:22, 6 July 2016 (UTC) | |||
| It was indeed, a mistake. I thought I was deleting blank space, as it appeared on Beta Edit. What specifically needs to be restored? I don't recall what was there to begin with. Sorry for the trouble. Wes Brooks 02:49, 18 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| ::I re-added the information you had put in, so it's in there now. The beta editing interface causes that problem a lot, don't worry. Do you have a source to back up the information you wanted added? You should add that to the article now if you would. ] (]) 02:57, 18 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| ::OK I did a little hunting and it seems to be related to this ]. I hope that this helps. ]|] 13:24, 6 July 2016 (UTC) | |||
| == In regards to: == | |||
| :::Thanks Marnette. My advice to the user would be to make a ] using the best sources he/she can find and then I'd consider moving it back to mainspace. ] (]) 18:14, 6 July 2016 (UTC) | |||
| == 10 July == | |||
| Hi Mark, I understand but the word "emigrated" is linked to maybe it should be linked to this ] (]) 04:02, 18 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| :Yes, I think the latter would be a better link. ] (]) 05:05, 18 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| {{user QAIbox | |||
| == In Regards to == | |||
| |bold = {{diff|User talk:Gerda Arendt|729100635|729079575|10 July}} }} | |||
| Took only 300 years to restore a good name. - Thank you for the history merge of ]. --] (]) 06:29, 10 July 2016 (UTC) | |||
| Question: I moved ] to ]. Would it be difficult to replave all redirects to the current, automatically? --] (]) 06:48, 10 July 2016 (UTC) | |||
| Hi Mark, My name is Sunil and I see that you deleted my name as a famous Wagle. I would like to ask you why did that. My company Greenculture was the first green e-commerce retailer. We were regularly featured in magazines, and newspapers and did lots of business in the United States and overseas. Here are some online stories of me and the company: http://www.internetretailer.com/mobile/2007/04/19/riverwired-com-launches-as-green-web-portal-for-the-eco-co. Also, see here: http://legacy.utsandiego.com/news/uniontrib/mon/business/news_lz1b1ads.html. Also, see here: http://www.sanantonio.gov/clerk/ethics/HB914CIS/200809/SunilWagleGreenCulture.pdf. Also, see here: http://voices.yahoo.com/top-five-eco-friendly-online-furniture-retailers-839073.html?cat=30. Also, see here:http://www.gaithersburgmd.gov/Documents/environment/rainbarrel_handouts.pdf. If you look here we are listed here: http://www.co.ocean.nj.us/solidwaste/.%5C%5CPDFs%5CBackyardCompostingDemoSite.pdf. Anyway, I feel there is a legitimate reason for me to be listed here and ask that you reinclude my name in the list of wagles. As you can see above, we were in the Internet Retailer top 500 for many years. This company did over $50 million in revenue which seems notable. I think I may not be posting this in the correct area so I apologize in advance if I am posting this in the wrong location. Thanks. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 20:37, 18 September 2013 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
| :I'm sorry, but I don't believe I've ever deleted your name from that article. ] (]) 20:44, 18 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| --] (]) 23:27, 13 August 2016 (UTC)== Didn't do it! == | |||
| --Hi Mark, can you please help me and find out who did make this change and deletion. The other admin who could help me just retired and I am still new and do not know how to find out. Thanks so much. Sunil <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 23:55, 20 September 2013 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
| :I'm not sure I understand. Someone deleted an article you want restored? What was the name of the article? ] (]) 00:25, 21 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| --HI Mark. The article is here: https://en.wikipedia.org/Wagle. I was listed as a Notable person on this page. It said. Sunil Wagle, Founder of GREENCulture. This was removed by someone and I thought that person was you. I don't really know who the person is who deleted that but I feel it should be restored. Can you please help me with how this can happen? Thanks. <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 06:23, 21 September 2013 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
| Hi Mark | |||
| == Fortress Brookvale == | |||
| I just opened a wiki page and saw I had two messages. I have never seen this before. The messages referred to alterations to pages that I had made being undone. I have just signed up to Misplaced Pages. I have never edited any page on wikipedia and have no intention of ever doing so. I use my mobile phone as a tethered hot spot and do not share it with anyone. Whomever it is that you are trying to contact over this it is certainly not me. | |||
| Please correct this as i don't wish to become known as a "wiki vandal" as I believe the term is. | |||
| My Best Regards | |||
| Ged Gilmore <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 23:25, 13 August 2016 (UTC)</span></small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
| :No worries, unless the warning was given recently admins will assume you're someone else. ] (]) 23:29, 13 August 2016 (UTC) | |||
| ==FAC voluntary mentoring scheme== | |||
| Hi Mark, | |||
| Just letting you that the change made on Brookvale Oval's Wiki page, regarding 'Fortess Brookvale' is accurate and true. If you could update the page as I did so, it would be very much appreciated. | |||
| Thank you. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 02:04, 19 September 2013 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
| :So it's we're talking about? My apologies if you weren't vandalizing. It looked to me like you were saying that the stadium's nickname has been "Wallace" since 2005, which seemed like a joke to me. You are free to re-add your change. ] (]) 02:07, 19 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| During a recent lengthy discussion on the ] talkpage, several ideas were put forward as to how this procedure could be improved, particularly in making it more user-friendly towards first-time nominees. The promotion rate for first-timers at FAC is depressingly low – around 16 percent – which is a cause for concern. To help remedy this, Mike Christie and I, with the co-operation of the FAC coordinators, have devised a voluntary mentoring scheme, in which newcomers will guided by more experienced editors through the stages of preparation and submission of their articles. The general format of the scheme is explained in more detail on ], which also includes a list of editors who have indicated that they are prepared to act as mentors. | |||
| == Have you seen this movie?! == | |||
| Would you be prepared to take on this role occasionally? If so, please add your name to the list. By doing so you incur no obligation; it will be entirely for you to decide how often and on which articles you want to act in this capacity. We anticipate that the scheme will have a trial run for a few months before we appraise its effectiveness. Your participation will be most welcome. ] (]) 21:11, 29 August 2016 (UTC) | |||
| Hi Mark, | |||
| == Revising and Republishing 'Jonathan Paul Wagner' == | |||
| The last thing I want is for Misplaced Pages to contain inaccurate or misleading information. That being said, have you seen "Never Say Never Again"? Because if you have, you'd understand why I made the changes I did to the plot summary. From the breathtaking opening scenes miles above the Earth's surface, to the dynamite climax deep in the heart of a desert oasis, Never Say Never Again keeps the audience on the edge of their seats. This film is a classic hallmark of action cinema, and after reading this script it's easy to see why Sean Connery "never said never again" to playing his most famous role. Kim Bassinger is simply stunning in her role as Domino and has gone down in history as one of the most famous Bond Girls of all time. Especially after comparing this treat to the "official" EON-sanctioned Bond film released that year, the disastrous Octopussy, Never Say Never Again is an enduring testament to sticking to the basics and returning to what made James Bond such a timeless character to begin with. With such a dynamite cast, breakneck pacing, and pitch-perfect direction by Irvin Kershner, I have no choice but to replace all those periods with exclamation marks. The world doesn't deserve anything different. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 02:31, 19 September 2013 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
| :Very funny :) ] (]) 02:53, 19 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| == Who do contributors escalate to beyond administrators? == | |||
| Who do I escalate my issues with the disrupted behavior of Esoglou to now that you have closed my admin noticeboard posting on Esoglou? If it belongs to a different board I request your assistance on where and how to post. LoveMonkey 22:37, 19 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| : and explain your concerns and then some uninvolved admins will take a look at it and weigh in. I closed the previous report since that board is just for edit, and a report about violating editing restrictions is better handled elsewhere. ] (]) 22:42, 19 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| ::I have created a notice. Please review it if you have time to confirm if the notice is appropriate. LoveMonkey 00:10, 20 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| :::It's Ok, but you have to notify User:Esoglou that you're talking about him. ] (]) 00:25, 20 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| ::Thank you I appreciate the help. LoveMonkey 01:09, 20 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| Hey Mark, | |||
| == Vandal hitting ]'s been at it for days == | |||
| I'm a writer who has been hired by Jonathan Paul Wagner to look into why his Misplaced Pages page (http://deletedwikipedia.gawker-labs.com/Jonathan_Paul_Wagner) was deleted, in hopes of having me make revisions to content and citation in order to get the page restored. I'd like to change the page so it meets Misplaced Pages's standards, but I'd like a couple suggestions by you as to the best way of going about doing this with particular respect to the article. What caused his article to get taken down, and what are the biggest changes I would need to make to get it back on track? Were sources not credible, or lines cited improperly? | |||
| Mark, thanks for protecting ]. It's the latest article to be attacked by a vandal who's been using a string of IP proxies to go after articles, including several ''Glee''-related ones (so far, ], ], and ] have had to be protected, and now Emma). | |||
| I appreciate any and all advice you can give me on this one, Mark. | |||
| I've been reporting these incursions to Material scientist at ]; the latest two, which were used in the vandalism on ] and should doubtless be blocked are 118.85.208.222 and 118.195.65.250—the former just left a post on my talk page (the second by the vandal) that I'd appreciate being hidden as well. Can you block them, or should I ask someone else? Many thanks. ] (]) 03:00, 20 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| :Hmm, I think I've seen this guy before. Ok, I think I've blocked and revdeleted them, let me know if you need anything else. ] (]) 03:10, 20 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| ::Many thanks. Will do. I rather suspect there will be many more proxy IPs to go; I hope they find a way to close the door on his edits. ] (]) 03:14, 20 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| :::Mark, looks like the same person at 182.50.66.67, which you've already given a couple of warnings to, though in some cases just annoying vandalism rather than ugly. I just reverted on ], which was trending toward the ugly. Time to bring down the hammer? ] (]) 02:25, 21 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| ::::{{done}} ] (]) 02:26, 21 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| :::::Thank you. There was this very odd series of edits to ] earlier today—one of the articles that has been hit before by blocked IPs (and was hit by the one just blocked) by 190.79.134.118; it was the similarity in edit summary wording that caught my eye. Is there a way of checking this for being a proxy, or is the point to not do anything until a line has clearly been crossed? ] (]) 02:32, 21 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| ::::::There probably is a way to check if it's a proxy, but I haven't done anything like that before. ] would probably be a better person to ask about that. Also, Are there any pages that our friend has been hitting that are still unprotected? I think liberal use of semi-protection might be our best bet at this point. ] (]) 02:34, 21 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| :::::::One of the ones first hit was ], using three separate IP addresses over five hours. Kudpung protected it for three days, but that protection expires in about two and a half hours; I expect this one to be vandalized if protection isn't extended, and it's probably the most frequently viewed article of all these. The only two non-Glee-related ones I can think of from early in the vandal's career were both hit in the past few hours: ] was protected for three days by Discospinster, and you protected ]. I think for any others, it'll be on a "what's hit" basis, and I'll let you know if I notice anything untoward. I'll drop a note to Materialscientist on that one IP that might be a proxy. Thanks. ] (]) 03:22, 21 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| == RevDelete == | |||
| - Joseph Cavera <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 01:53, 15 September 2016 (UTC)</span></small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
| Thanks for it on my tp! ] (]) 03:11, 20 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| :Hi, the reason the article was deleted was because it seemed to fail ]. To have the article restored, you'd have to provide sources that make the case that he meets the standards in that guideline. Sources that provide detailed, in-depth discussion of him would also help. Local sources or interviews can help, but usually we want more than that. (Note that we also have rules editing for pay, see ].) Feel free to let me know if you have any more questions. ] (]) 02:51, 15 September 2016 (UTC) | |||
| :No prob, let me know if you need anything else revdelted/semi-protected/blocked etc. ] (]) 03:13, 20 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| ::Will do, it's been an interesting night, vandal info templates been pretty low, but there's been plenty of vandalism. ] (]) 03:16, 20 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| == Undelete request for one of my User subpages. == | |||
| == IM SORRY == | |||
| Hi, would you be able to help me out with an undelete of these two of my User subpages? ] / ] . The were archived when the original pages were deleted while I worked on citations, and then someone came by and deleted them as well. If I could atleast get them undeleted so I can offline copy the contents, I would be very appreciative. Thanks. ] (]) 04:37, 15 September 2016 (UTC) | |||
| it was an accident I did not mean to spell bane It was supposed to be banned | |||
| ] (]) |
:Sure, why don't you e-mail me and I will send you the text of the draft. ] (]) 14:34, 15 September 2016 (UTC) | ||
| ::Got'em. Thanks. ] (]) 04:23, 22 September 2016 (UTC) | |||
| == |
== Burke and Hare murders == | ||
| How lovely to see your name on my watchlist and especially on ], my latest FA. I hope your keeping well! '''<span style="text-shadow:7px 7px 8px Black;">]]</span>''' 14:58, 18 September 2016 (UTC) | |||
| Hello again, Mark! It was extremely pleasant to hear from you on one of my last additions! Thank you, and I do mean that sincerely. You are far more wise than I am at this time, and I do trust your foresight. I am done editing wikipedia for a while, but I do hope that by my additions I could inspire hope and mystery in at least one person on this earth. I cannot stress enough how much I do appreciate your tireless work to keep the world safe, while promoting virtually-free knowledge. When I do make it, financially, you can be CERTAIN that this encyclopedia will be supported. "It takes a village to raise a child"--one great old manager of mine | |||
| :Thanks for the note, it's good to see you too. And to read your fascinating article. ] (]) 15:25, 18 September 2016 (UTC) | |||
| And yes, in my free time I do read the encyclopaedia wikipedia. | |||
| Thank you | |||
| and thank you, because one thing I've learned, is that one can never say "thank you" too much. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 03:37, 20 September 2013 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
| :To be honest, what you wrote was very nice. But unfortunately, it was a bit too speculative for inclusion in Misplaced Pages. Sorry! ] (]) 03:40, 20 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| == Extended confirmed protection == | |||
| ==Dixie Carter (wrestling) Edit about a heel turn== | |||
| {{ivmbox|1=Hello, Mark Arsten. This message is intended to notify administrators of important changes to the protection policy. | |||
| I've been watching wrestling since I was a baby. I've been backstage quite a few times, and got a feel for how the booking works. I added the section about her heel turn based on the YouTube video Impact Wrestling released just a few minutes ago. She made a promo disparaging A.J. Styles, a face character (hero), which turned her into a villain (Heel) due to her being booed heavily by the fans. You may watch http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQYOLXnbeFM&list=PLcovtt7Bdo9MJhjl3d9xNJ7u095SpiXTS to see what I am talking about, but I have never, and will never vandalize an article or add things that are either a)not in sync with current events, b)not true, or c) have been instructed on the edit page not to do so. Thank you and good night. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 03:48, 20 September 2013 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
| :Hi, it's fine to make that addition to the article if you have a reliable source to back up your claim. Just make sure to cite the source in the article with your addition. ] (]) 03:50, 20 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| ] (also known as "30/500 protection") is a new level of page protection that only allows edits from accounts at least 30 days old and with 500 edits. The automatically assigned ] was created for this purpose. The protection level was created following ] with the primary intention of enforcing various arbitration remedies that prohibited editors under the "30 days/500 edits" threshold to edit certain topic areas. | |||
| == Replaced deleted photo == | |||
| In July and August 2016, ] established consensus for community use of the new protection level. Administrators are authorized to apply extended confirmed protection to combat any form of disruption (e.g. vandalism, sock puppetry, edit warring, etc.) on any topic, subject to the following conditions: | |||
| As you suggested previously, I replaced the ''verboten'' image on the cold fusion talk page with a link (but I forgot to sign it so will go back and fix that). --] (]) 08:41, 20 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| * '''Extended confirmed protection may only be used in cases where semi-protection has proven ineffective'''. It should not be used as a first resort. | |||
| :Yeah, non-free images can't be used on talk pages at all. ] (]) 14:41, 20 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
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| == Protected edit request on 25 September 2016 == | |||
| Thank you for taking the right Decision sir :) Regards, ] (]) 13:02, 20 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| :You're welcome. ] (]) 14:41, 20 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| {{edit fully-protected|User:Mark Arsten|answered=Y}} | |||
| == ] == | |||
| Hi - is there any way I can userfy that article. I put some work into it finding sources and might consider redoing it as a book article. I can find the sources again but it would be convenient to have the text. -- ] (]) 16:09, 20 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| :Well, the is intact, will that work? Or do you need it in your userspace? ] (]) 16:11, 20 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| ::Oh sorry got it, thanks! -- ] (]) 17:11, 20 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| == ] debate == | |||
| ] (]) 22:12, 25 September 2016 (UTC) | |||
| Can you please go through the talk page of this article & comment your opinion on 'battery operated ricksha driver protest' | |||
| :Not sure what this is about? ] (]) 23:40, 25 September 2016 (UTC) | |||
| == Sock Puppet == | |||
| Summary of it is as below. | |||
| Good evening, I'm not sure if this is the right place to post this, but I made the mistake of creating a sock puppet account without the knowledge that it went against the guidelines of Misplaced Pages. I've just started using a Misplaced Pages page today, and when I was creating an article instead of previewing it I accidentally submitted it, before it was complete resulting in speedy deletion. I've made several corrections and added citations, but I noticed that the deletion was still listed. So I used my brother's account to delete the speedy deletion as it said another account can remove the notice. I realize now that was extremely naive, but I had no malintent other than just making sure I could carry editing the article without the deletion in the way. I'm not sure if there is anything else I should cover other than providing a link to the article, but thank you for time and sorry more any issues my use of another account might have created. If I should submit this somewhere else please let me know. Thank you again for your time and ensuring that Misplaced Pages operates on such a high level. | |||
| Topic- Which of the two versions be preferred to go into the protest section of 'Article' | |||
| https://en.wikipedia.org/User_talk:TravellingTycoon#Sockpuppet_investigation <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 01:08, 26 September 2016 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
| :Ok, thanks for the explanation. As long as you stick to one account in the future you won't have problems. I'll update ]. ] (]) 01:25, 26 September 2016 (UTC) | |||
| :Also, it looks like ] probably does not meet the ] guideline. If he wins the election the page will probably meet the guideline (if I'm understanding the office right), but usually local politician articles are deleted. ] (]) 01:34, 26 September 2016 (UTC) | |||
| == Reviewing Christina Grimmie == | |||
| Option A - | |||
| Hello, I saw that in 2013, you configured pending changes settings for ] to auto-accept, requiring "autoconfirmed" permission because of "violations of the ]." Could you remove this now that she's dead? -'''''] (])''''' 22:33, 13 October 2016 (UTC) | |||
| ADD - The AAP has supported various regulatory complaints raised by rickshaw operators in Delhi. | |||
| :The BLP policy ], I believe. I'd be hesitant to remove it for now if there's still disruption going on. ] (]) 00:00, 14 October 2016 (UTC) | |||
| == I request Checkuser == | |||
| KEEP - the rest of the 'protest' section as it is. | |||
| For this Can you please see | |||
| Option B - | |||
| https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Misplaced Pages:Sockpuppet_investigations/Hwy43&oldid=744238897 ] (]) 00:32, 14 October 2016 (UTC) | |||
| == Request to review == | |||
| ADD - On 16 September 2013, Aam Aadmi Party supported e-rickshaw driver's demand in Delhi that there should be a policy on battery operated rickshaws in the capital city to stop their exploitation by Delhi Transport Department. Party also said that a subsidy should be given to manual rickshaw drivers who want to purchase e-rickshaws. Earlier in June 2013, the party had supported agitations of rickshaw drivers against ban on advertisements on auto rickshaws alleging that the ban is imposed because most rickshaw drivers supported Aam Aadmi party & carried their banners. | |||
| Would you be willing to review ] and the subsequent discussion on the ] and provide an opinion or suggestions for moving forward? Thank you. ] (]) 17:47, 22 October 2016 (UTC) | |||
| remove - On 10 June 2013, Kejriwal supported the agitation of Delhi auto rickshaw drivers, who were protesting the Delhi government's ban on advertisements on auto rickshaws. Kejriwal claimed that, auto rickshaw drivers supported his party and they carried AAP's advertisements on their auto rickshaws and this is the reason for Delhi Government's ban and he challenged that volunteers of AAP will put 10,000 advertisements on auto rickshaws as a protest. | |||
| :I took a quick look at it. Unfortunately, there doesn't seem to be an easy way forward that I can see. The best advice I could give would be for the user to wait six months without editing at all and then request an unblock. Kind of a "]" at this point, but after multiple accounts are blocked it's really hard to get permission to edit again. ] (]) 14:59, 26 October 2016 (UTC) | |||
| :: Thanks for taking a look. ] (]) 23:33, 26 October 2016 (UTC) | |||
| == Definitive Technology Deleted == | |||
| There is no conflict over the validity of citations.--] (]) 05:37, 21 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| :I'm sorry, but I probably won't get involved there any further. ] (]) 14:47, 21 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| Hi Mark - | |||
| == User talk:222.222.24.146 == | |||
| My name is Joel Sietsema. One of my team members tried some time ago to get The "Definitive Technology" page published. He ran into what he deemed some pretty fierce headwinds that stopped it from being approved. Can you help me better understand what it was specifically that stopped it from being approved. | |||
| Please review all this user's ] contribs if you can and then block indef as a spam only account. For security reasons I am unable to log in with my admin account at the moment because I'm on a very public insecure WiFi hotspot. Cheers, ]. --] (]) 09:26, 21 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| :Thanks for the heads up--reverted and blocked. ] (]) 14:45, 21 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| My thanks, | |||
| == Removed section, slyck == | |||
| Joel <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 02:26, 26 October 2016 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
| :Hi Joel, I think the issue was that some editors felt the sources in the article didn't have enough depth of discussion about the company. (We are often quick to delete articles on corporations for fear of people using Misplaced Pages for advertising.) ] has some info about what we look for in articles about companies. The best thing to do would be to ] that includes more citations to detailed articles and then ]. I can move the deleted text to your userspace if you want. Also, please note ]. Let me know if you have any more questions. ] (]) 15:14, 26 October 2016 (UTC) | |||
| == Zoffy's page == | |||
| In reply to your issue i would very much like to include a link to source material, but much of the material was removed from the site at the time of the incident and the material that put the administrations position in question is no longer available. | |||
| A long time ago, ]'s page was ] and turned into a redirect due to lacking reliable source. If I were to restore the page with reliable source, will you accept it? | |||
| The moderator who left the site is also no longer available. I certainly have digital copies of the reasons he gave for leaving, but i would have to upload them to a secondary site in order to link to them. No third party source exists to my knowledge. | |||
| ] (]) 09:30, 26 October 2016 (UTC) | |||
| That being said, the incident is common knowledge among the site regulars and was an ongoing issue for many months. I would expect there to be no contention that a moderator really did leave the site due to feeling that certain members were being unfairly treated. I suspect that site management is simply removing the reference because they do not want to be reminded of it or have to show it on their wiki, not because they have any dispute over the existence of the issue. | |||
| :Well, maybe. I'd have to look at the page and the source (hopefully source'''s''') first. Probably best to ]. ] (]) 15:03, 26 October 2016 (UTC) | |||
| ::] ] (]) 16:18, 26 October 2016 (UTC) | |||
| If there is some more correct way to put that information forward i am more than happy to hear your suggestions. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 23:57, 21 September 2013 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
| : |
:::Ok, that looks pretty thoroughly sourced, but it is hard for me to evaluate the draft due to the heavy reliance on non-English sources (which is itself 100% alright, per policy). I guess posting to ] and asking for the deletion to be overturned by restoring this draft would be the best idea now. ] (]) 18:13, 26 October 2016 (UTC) | ||
| ::::Yeah about that, how do I actually use it? I'm not thoroughly experienced. I had once requested Zoffy's page to be un-deleted but one user told me to refer to you (the one who redirect Zoffy's page) instead...] (]) 22:00, 26 October 2016 (UTC) | |||
| == promotional account User:Foreverstocks == | |||
| User:Foreverstocks has only created 2 pages, both of which have been tagged for speedy deletion due to purely promotional content. i tagged one, someone else tagged the other back in march 2015. the user hasnt made any other posts or edits to articles. <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 18:39, 28 October 2016 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
| Oh, there certainly are sources, i am simply not sure how to reference them correctly. | |||
| == Two-Factor Authentication now available for admins == | |||
| The main source of course is the message sent from the moderator who left the group in protest.... | |||
| Hello, | |||
| "... | |||
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| this message really has nothing to do with the thread in question. | |||
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| i'd just like to let you know that, although i invariably disagree with the things you post, i can think of nothing worse than someone arbitrarily deciding that someone (you) cannot post what they think. | |||
| Hi {{BASEPAGENAME}}. | |||
| i very rarely agree with your opinion but i seriously believe that you have the right to state your opinion just like anyone else. | |||
| A new user group, ], has been created in a move to greatly improve the standard of new page patrolling. The user right can be granted by any admin at ]. It is highly recommended that admins look beyond the simple numerical threshold and satisfy themselves that the candidates have the required skills of communication and an advanced knowledge of notability and deletion. Admins are automatically included in this user right. | |||
| apparently this view of mine is not universal. | |||
| It is anticipated that this user right will significantly reduce the work load of admins who patrol the performance of the patrollers. However,due to the complexity of the rollout, some rights may have been accorded that may later need to be withdrawn, so some help will still be needed to some extent when discovering wrongly applied deletion tags or inappropriate pages that escape the attention of less experienced reviewers, and above all, hasty and bitey tagging for maintenance. User warnings are available ] but very often a friendly custom message works best. | |||
| it's recently come to my attention there is a movement to have you banned from slyck. | |||
| If you have any questions about this user right, don't hesitate to join us at ]. <small>''(Sent to all admins)''</small>.] (]) 13:47, 15 November 2016 (UTC) | |||
| i don't like this, and i have vehemently opposed it. | |||
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| those in control of these things will say that they're banning you for all sorts of nonsense reasons (in my opinion). you are abusive; you're a troll. etc... | |||
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| i've done my best to make the powers-that-be see reason, and i will quit as a slyck moderator before i see this happen. | |||
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| continue to post as you always have done. if i think what you say is full of shit, then i'll say so, without abusing you personally. if you think what i say is full of shit, then you say so, without abusing me personally. | |||
| If you wish to participate in the 2016 election, please review ] and submit your choices on ''']'''. ] (]) 22:08, 21 November 2016 (UTC) | |||
| as far as i can tell, this is what we've been doing anyway. | |||
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| so if you don't see me on slyck again, this is why. | |||
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| all the best, | |||
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| --] (]) 08:13, 24 November 2016 (UTC) | |||
| :Thanks! I saw '']'' performed the other day, and I thought of you. ] (]) 03:16, 28 November 2016 (UTC) | |||
| == please consider an addition to ] semi-protected page == | |||
| section discography | |||
| ''Earth to Mars'' unofficial release (2011) | |||
| i am new to this so please let me know if this is the proper forum to add to a semi-protected page | |||
| ] (]) 21:32, 24 November 2016 (UTC) | |||
| :Hi, the right place to post the request would be ]. ] (]) 03:13, 28 November 2016 (UTC) | |||
| == hi == | |||
| However the only reference to it has been removed from the forum after the issue. | |||
| :Yeah, we generally want third-party sources for additions to articles. Looks like it might just be best to leave this out. ] (]) 16:09, 22 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| how do i submit a sockpuppet case? <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 22:59, 24 November 2016 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
| No, i am not satisfied with that response. | |||
| :Hi, there are instructions at ], look for the "How to open an investigation" box. Let me know if you have any issues, ] (]) 03:15, 28 November 2016 (UTC) | |||
| == ] == | |||
| Reading the rules you pointed me towards it appears the references you are referring to are only for use if the information in question is "challenged or likely to be challenged," | |||
| In this particular case no challenge has been made, primely as the material in question is entirely factual and not in question. | |||
| Certainly the wording has been questioned and the section has been removed due to the sites vanity, but you can check back through the talk section if you like. It is clear nobody has challenged the factual basis of the statement. If you read their statements it is actually clear they do believe there to be people of that nature on the site, and the paragraph has been worded to make it clear it concerns the forum staff and not the site management. I see no other dispute, this event is common history for Slyck regulars. | |||
| Hello, Mark. Is this template good enough for ECP? It is a recurrently used and highly visible template, but can you trust EC users to edit this template? --] (]) 06:15, 29 November 2016 (UTC) | |||
| :I don't see any reason to change the protection here, to be honest. ] (]) 14:27, 29 November 2016 (UTC) | |||
| == Creating a Page on a Person that you deleted a few years ago == | |||
| Obviously there will never be third party sources given for material provided by a whistleblower and the copy of the chat conversation will be the only evidence brought forward by any party, and as i see it that evidence supports the facts as stated. | |||
| Hello Mark, | |||
| I've spent some time creating a page about a comedian I've been watching for a few years "Dan Willis" | |||
| Initially I contacted Dan, he said that his friend had a page written for him by a Fiver.com writer years ago, but it had been deleted, | |||
| and he hadn't really thought about it since.. | |||
| I created the new page "Dan Willis Comedian and Computer Expert", which someone changed to "Dan Willis (comedian), | |||
| which then got put up for speedy deletion because it was on a similar subject matter to the one you deleted. | |||
| This feels unfair, as Ive only used information sourced (and referenced) from online publishers, journals and news feeds.. | |||
| Also, this being my first page, I'm not too savvy on things like- contesting a speedy deletion, | |||
| the person who put it up for Speedy deletion said there is a button I can click, but I cant find it anywhere.. | |||
| Any help would be gratefully accepted.. | |||
| ] (]) 04:34, 11 December 2016 (UTC) | |||
| :Hi Rhian, sorry for the confusion. It looks like the speedy deletion request was declined though. It's probably safe for now, but someone could still nominate it for a deletion discussion in the future. That would take a week or so and be open for public input on the matter, at the very least. ] (]) 02:24, 12 December 2016 (UTC) | |||
| == ] == | |||
| If anybody has a different set of events they believe happened and wish to put it forward i would have thought it would be mentioned in the talk page at some point. | |||
| Now is the time to end PC protection. I don't see any huge vandalism lately. --] (]) 21:56, 11 December 2016 (UTC) | |||
| Clearly they did not because they do not have a true dispute with the events, they simply do not want the bad publicity on their page, for this i have no sympathy. If they want to avoid the disgrace of having their dirty laundry aired in public they should make a public statement of apology rather than remove all reference to their past actions. | |||
| I've not received your response yet. ] (]) 05:53, 20 December 2016 (UTC) | |||
| Long story short, i still see no reason to think this information is in dispute or that it should not be a part of the page, unless you have some further insight i have every intention of adding the section again in some manner. | |||
| :Please post your protection change requests on RFPP in the future. ] (]) 17:35, 20 December 2016 (UTC) | |||
| :: If I recall correctly, pending changes, right? Also, I was recommended per ] to discuss the person who did the enabling. --] (]) 19:37, 20 December 2016 (UTC) | |||
| :::That's right, but what I mean is, for pages I've protected you can just skip the step of discussing it with me before posting the request on RFPP. ] (]) 20:09, 20 December 2016 (UTC) | |||
| == Operation Red Hat Suggestion Comment == | |||
| If you have issue with some aspect of the piece i would greatly appreciate your input on a more diplomatic manner to word the facts. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 21:51, 23 September 2013 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
| Mark, I've <ins>been</ins> redeveloping material from the deleted Operation Red Hat into an new article on a wider subject which is in ]. Given your deletion and the prior complaints of facts being misrepresented (some valid, some disputed), I would like to request that you give it a once over for factual errors, poor sourcing, and synthesis. Many new sources have been released since deletion that support the majority of the previous article and several may require further support. However, I am still finding my own copyedits of non-public domain text so it is not complete by a long shot. I already know it is still long and complicated. Thanks. ] (]) 01:43, 12 December 2016 (UTC) | |||
| :Wow, that is a huge article. I'm sure a lot of work has gone into writing it, but I'm worried that it might just be too long. My page size script is placing it at over 21,000 words, which is longer than our article on the ], for reference. I would really suggest trimming it, if you can. ] (]) 02:18, 12 December 2016 (UTC) | |||
| ::It ''is'' too long. Thank you for the perspective. I'm hoping a new RS is pending to sum up a lot of it (like most of the VA stuff). The Vietnam war was only about 19.5 years and the Okinawa activity in the proposed sandbox article covers 72 years (to date) and a lot of related ] material. All of the issues discussed are controversial which require both sides and will probably require their own articles at some point. An issue I see on the horizon is that any <ins>moves to</ins> new topic articles would have likely have too much weight on Okinawa with the inclusion of a lot of this material. I haven't reached any other conclusion on that aspect yet other than it's too long. ] (]) 02:32, 12 December 2016 (UTC) | |||
| :::Ok, well, my inclination is to say, just move it back since it has been more than three years. My only worry is that if it's moved back to mainspace it will end up going through the same type of Afd as last time. What title were you going to put this under? ] (]) 20:07, 12 December 2016 (UTC) | |||
| ::::Not really sure at this point. It was the suggestion of another editor that where the entry was going was a lot greater that Op Red Hat could or should cover and a new topic was needed. A lot of newer sources have been released since that time. Legacy of... was the tittle I was working under but that is wide open to suggestion and might need to change if much material is moved out. I was hoping to get some feedback and identify all of the places that need work, further citations, or quotes before going too far forward to avoid and/or rectify/(or explain) the past or future complaints prior to any more embarrassments. ] (]) 16:57, 14 December 2016 (UTC) | |||
| :::::Ok, that sounds good. You might want to ask someone at MILHIST Wikiproject to look at it. They would likely be able to help a lot more than I could. ] (]) 01:16, 16 December 2016 (UTC) | |||
| ::::::Thank you again Mark. I've posted there. What is the etiquette on notifying the editors previously involved in the removal of Op Red Hat of my eventual intent of making a place for it on the main space? Once again, Thank you. ] (]) 15:13, 17 December 2016 (UTC) | |||
| :::::::Just posting on their talk page about it should be fine. The only time you have to worry about canvassing is if there is an AFD or something going on. ] (]) 17:33, 20 December 2016 (UTC) | |||
| ::::::::So, ] I posted ] and got little response. Per your advice, I ] one of the ] (]) to take a look at the draft in my sandbox which is no way ready. He ended to the discussion. Then he took the material in my sandbox that I was developing and started a new article with it which he published here ]! | |||
| ::::::::Is this at all a legitimate move and how do I handle it if it is not? Is "stealing" from WP editors sandboxes even "a thing"? I feel robbed and I literally caught a burgler last night and he is literally in the hospital ever since. Thanks (and sorry). ] (]) 21:04, 27 December 2016 (UTC) | |||
| :::::::::I have reminded Johnvr4 of his earlier version of this article, which was deleted, and the fact that that was completely released into the public, and, regarding the userspace, of ], as well as the CC-BY-SA 3.0 rules. Happy to answer any further queries, but reading the talkpage discussion at my talkpage should answer most of them. Regards ] ] 21:20, 27 December 2016 (UTC) | |||
| ::::::::::I rescind my request for ]'s assistance. ]? The draft was not ]. | |||
| ::::::::::Do I need need to modify anything to be compliant with ] Couldn't you have just mentioned that concern instead of just taking it and opening a new entry?? Was it just done out of spite? ] (]) 21:41, 27 December 2016 (UTC) | |||
| :::::::::::OK, seems you wish to have the discussion here rather than at my talkpage. No, the creation was done to show what a cut down version, more acceptable to article rules, might look like. But your overreaction seemed to end any chance of you considering alternatives that might actually make this a Misplaced Pages article in time. I'll say it again - your approach to this subject seems incompatible with Misplaced Pages article guidelines, and frankly, all the indications are that you should redirect your efforts to a personal website or another form of publishing (like a magazine/journal). But, as with all our posts on this site, yours, mine, Mark Arsten's and others, everything has been released for public use and reuse - that's what the CC-BY-SA license means. ] ] 21:56, 27 December 2016 (UTC) | |||
| *Sorry that I wasn't around to help with this. While I would normally get permission before moving someone's draft to mainspace, I don't think it is explicitly against policy (but attributing it in an edit summary is important). ] (]) 01:14, 4 January 2017 (UTC) | |||
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| Hello! The semiprotection that you placed on ] expired today, and the articles has immediately begun receiving new vandalism. Would it be possible to extend the protection? Here is the . Thanks! -- ] (]) 07:23, 30 December 2016 (UTC) | |||
| :Sorry for missing this, looks like someone else got to it. ] (]) 01:14, 4 January 2017 (UTC) | |||
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| After many long conversations on religion one of the long serving members of the forum team sent this message to another menber and then left the forum. | |||
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| == Happy New Year, Mark Arsten! == | |||
| "this message really has nothing to do with the thread in question. | |||
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| i very rarely agree with your opinion but i seriously believe that you have the right to state your opinion just like anyone else. | |||
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| it's recently come to my attention there is a movement to have you banned from slyck. | |||
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| i don't like this, and i have vehemently opposed it. | |||
| <br />] (]) 23:46, 2 January 2017 (UTC)<br /><br /> | |||
| those in control of these things will say that they're banning you for all sorts of nonsense reasons (in my opinion). you are abusive; you're a troll. etc... | |||
| </div> | |||
| i've done my best to make the powers-that-be see reason, and i will quit as a slyck moderator before i see this happen. | |||
| ''{{resize|88%|Send New Year cheer by adding {{tls|Happy New Year fireworks}} to user talk pages.}}'' | |||
| continue to post as you always have done. if i think what you say is full of s@@@, then i'll say so, without abusing you personally. if you think what i say is full of s@@@, then you say so, without abusing me personally. | |||
| {{clear}} | |||
| as far as i can tell, this is what we've been doing anyway. | |||
| {{hab}} | |||
| so if you don't see me on slyck again, this is why. | |||
| all the best | |||
| " | |||
| == Operation Red Hat again == | |||
| **Text recovered from private message** | |||
| :Sorry, information added to articles really should be supported by reliable sources. If no third party sources exist, we probably shouldn't include the information in the article. ] (]) 23:52, 23 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| ] is back now and just after your comment and closure of the above section. ] quit his discussion, knows I'm ] and is still discussing ] and restarted a parallel article. ] was kind enough to previously offer his input. Now what? ] (]) 17:43, 4 January 2017 (UTC) | |||
| :Ok, hope your discussions are able to resolve these issues. I think you have enough info for a few articles there, probably. I don't know that I've interacted with Buckshot before, but I recall being very impressed by Nick's articles in the past. Hope things go well. ] (]) 17:47, 4 January 2017 (UTC) | |||
| ::Have you looked at the edit summaries? This is derived mostly from material that pre-dated your arrival on Misplaced Pages. You do not ] the operation or the exclusive right to write on it, nor, as we discussed, do you have exclusive rights to anything you have uploaded on this site. As I argued to you, Red Hat and Red Cap are separate operations and should have separate articles. Regards ] ] 19:28, 4 January 2017 (UTC) | |||
| :::Yes. I looked at the edit summaries. You've revived utterly incomplete garbage and included several of my early edits to improve it and in the process revived a lot of "bullshit" such as Johnston Atoll is in the North Pacific and brought back uncited material that is clearly ] and is inconsistent with every other source-none of which I ]. However, YOU now OWN each of those awful edits since you decided to restore them. So I am questioning why this was done since yet again, it did not appear to follow an established policy.{{quote|]: "revert all top consecutive edits made by last editor"...]:"Standard rollback may only be used in certain situations – editors who misuse standard rollback (for example, by using it to reverse good-faith edits in situations where an explanatory edit summary would normally be expected) may have their rollback rights removed. Since rollback is part of the core administrator tools, an admin could be stripped of their administrative privileges entirely to remove those tools."}} | |||
| :::You've conveniently left out the edit prior to any of my edits that said the munitions moves took place at night which I did not make and that some other editor blamed me for "cooking up" which, as you are well aware, was one main reason it was deleted in the first place. Almost every previous editor that originally worked on it no longer edits WP so why restore that edit? What was the ]? The revival of the incomplete and faulty entry is not any improvement to anything on Misplaced Pages and is directly "affecting my ability improve and maintain Misplaced Pages" ]-if you want to review it. Last, you have indicated in each of your suggestions that you have a faulty grasp of what RED HAT or OPERATION RED HAT entails and are acting on your own beliefs rather that what the various (and especially the newer) sources say in plain English. Again, I feel the need to question your motivations since this the revival is obviously no improvement and it's at least the third time you have tried to forcefully cut me out and take over writing this article. Please find a new topic and a new editor to trouble. ] (]) 14:17, 5 January 2017 (UTC) | |||
| ::::I restored that version because you seemed so concerned about use of any of your writing. Please feel completely free to edit the ] article to improve and correct the text. I am just about to remove the munitions move at night text, which I did not remember was any issue at all. But if you believe it is incorrect, I shall remove it. | |||
| ::::What, in plain English and in one clear, logical paragraph, do the newer sources actually say? | |||
| ::::Kind regards ] ] 18:28, 8 January 2017 (UTC) | |||
| :::::], Kindly stay out of my sandbox entirely. I am perfectly able to copy paste from my sandbox when I am ready. And please do not even worry about being accused of having incorrect information. I've already accused you of that and am certain it will continue for a very long time given the understanding you have already provided me. If you don't review the sources yourself, I will continue to challenge your understanding until you give up. I've already explained that there are still copy edits of non-PD sources in my sandbox that I have yet to find and fix. However your last edits appeared to knowingly put at least two(?) copy edits into the article after I expressly warned about it. Nix the resurrected page until the material is sorted. Seriously. JUST STOP NOW! | |||
| :::::If you absolutely MUST work on this subject then you could help by please working to develop a paragraph or two from this sentence: Safety was the primary concern during the operation however several local complexities including rush to complete the mission, the heat, an empty reservoir, water rationing, and a tense political situation added to the difficulty in planning and were all part of Operation Red Hat. ] (]) 20:54, 8 January 2017 (UTC) | |||
| ::::::Thank you for your message Johnvr4. I will refrain from the temptation to indulge in all caps and blunt language in response. I'm not sure how I can help your with your proposed paragraph if you are seriously concerned about the use of the sources which you have uploaded. Which sources would you direct me to to write this paragraph, and which time period (62-71, 1971 to Johnson Atoll, or afterwards) are you referring to when you mention the heat, water rationing, tense political situation etc? Kind regards ] ] 22:13, 8 January 2017 (UTC) | |||
| :::::::The "Safety was the primary concern during the operation however several local complexities including rush to complete the mission, the heat, an empty reservoir, water rationing, and a tense political situation added to the difficulty in planning and were all part of Operation Red Hat" line is currently in the draft section: Public opposition to special weapons on Okinawa and in the US (1969-1971). The source is see 00:02:50 and 00:17:30- but best to just watch the entire thing. The dried up reservoir, water rationing, is related to the PCP spill and fish kill that's currently in the Legacy of Environmental contamination draft section (and there are more pictures of it). Some RED HAT safety precaution briefing and press demonstration photos are currently in the Retrograde chemicals brought to Okinawa from Vietnam draft section. ] (]) 17:01, 9 January 2017 (UTC) | |||
| ::::::::] would you possibly be willing to assist me in nominating the new article for speedy deletion as a POV fork. I cannot seem to get the nomination process correct and have never done it before. Thank you, John ] (]) 17:54, 25 February 2017 (UTC) | |||
| LOL. I seriously think you have misinterpreted the medium. The discussion is about a forum community and is not available on other sites. Nor is the site or topic currently popular or significant enough that a conversation on it would ever gain coverage on any other site. This input to this page is added for factual fullness, and not because anybody actually visits or reports upon the four or five regulars at Slyck.com. To be clear, this event happened in 2012 and is still the most current event being discussed on their wiki page. | |||
| {{od}} I have to say I do not believe the article meets the definition of a POV fork article, even of any article in mainspace. Even if it was a POV fork of a userspace draft it wouldn't meet the requirements. But finally, it's not even a POV fork because (a) it doesn't present a different point of view, and (b) 70-80% is material drawn from the article's state before you, Johnvr4, began any editing of the topic. I would recommend you consult our reasons for deletion (WP:DEL-REASON or WP:DEL#REASON). But none of them seem to apply. ] ] 16:15, 26 February 2017 (UTC) | |||
| :You've created a version of the article to present an article of ''only'' "CW/BW transfer from Okinawa to Johnston material" that is highly incomplete and a introduces a POV that avoids a plethora of majority (and minority) opinions from reliable sources on a controversial subject. That motivation appeared to be your ''intent'' and long term goal. | |||
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| :*] ] (]) 20:32, 26 February 2017 (UTC) | |||
| ::Ah, doesn't quite capture what I'm doing. I'm adding that material, yes. That's because that is what I'm absolutely sure of. That's what can be backed up by other reliable sources. I've invited you to edit the article repeatedly because I'm on less sure ground with all the other connected activities, nor am I sure of the sourcing. But it seems that you will not edit the article because you wish to have it presented *entirely* according to your wishes. This is discouraged by ]. I am attacked if I use some of the connected materials from your sandbox. Please edit the article, and add in your materials!! Please participate in the wikipedia collaborative editing process!! ] ] 16:50, 2 March 2017 (UTC) | |||
| :::What you are doing is well described in your own words and edits. No editor should care what you are sure of or not because that is totally inconsistent with WP's goals of using reliable and verifiable sources and every other guideline. You have had numerous opportunities to work together and have each of your concerns addressed and '''every single time''' its come back to ''your failed understanding'' which is irrelevant, and then it ends with you attempting to cut me out. I wish to have the controversy(S) addressed with the majority and minority views for the relevant sources and it is very highly evident that in every one of ''your'' version(s), that goal is not your intent. I will be adding the new source that was published today to the draft in my sandbox which you need to stay completely out of. ] (]) 14:14, 6 March 2017 (UTC) | |||
| ::::Right now there are two editors primarily interested in this article/subject. Neither of their views is irrelevant (to be honest, saying that is a ]). I remain baffled about how I could be 'cutting you out' after pleading with you immediately above to edit the mainspace article. Your options are twofold: remain editing only your userspace draft, which is not really what a userspace draft is for, or actually get involved in the mainspace. Please engage with me, here or elsewhere, to tell me about well sourced issues which ought to be in the mainspace article, and we can get them in there!! Not every connected issue that you write about in your userspace may end up in the mainspace, but I can certainly see there are issues you write about which ought to be mainspaced. Regards ] ] 12:32, 7 March 2017 (UTC) | |||
| :::::Your ''view'' is not irrelevant. The issue is your bafflement and ''failure to understand what the reliable sources say''. ''Cutting me out'' meant taking over completely to make it your version which is exactly what you have done- repeatedly- all of which has already been explained (with links included). It's not personal attack either. You stated your motivation early on so it's an accusation based solely upon observation with strong evidence. | |||
| :::::Your new version/viewpoint, Operation Red Hat, is the 1971 ship ride from point A to B during small part of the the 1963-2000 RED HAT mission. My longstanding viewpoint is that is going to be very difficult to separate the RED HAT Operation from the motivations, legalities etc. and of the deployments and story of the mission. In the event they must be separate articles, I also have all or most all of it written and don't need you make your own version of similar material that you ''know'' I have developed of a period of years while waiting for better sources to be published. We talked about this years ago (but my talk page is not archived). Given all previous behaviors I am very highly hesitant to work with you on the material I've developed. When it is ready and I move it to the mainspace then you can take a crack at it. Until then, I am open to advice on how the material in my sandbox might be be developed or improved (including references) and where the material should go so that it can be moved. Don't touch it and don't take any of it. | |||
| :::::To clear this up right now, I years ago had already redeveloped the version of the article that you are currently developing and have been redeveloping material on the subject ever since. When this all started, you deleted over 1/2 the material and locked the page so only you could edit it. Recently, I was advised to ask you for constructive criticism of the version I developed and suddenly you developed a new interest in writing your own version and immediately did so by resurrecting the very article that had just told you that I intended to restart. | |||
| :::::In your own words can you explain what your intended purpose for resurrecting that version of the mainspace article was? ] (]) 18:09, 8 March 2017 (UTC) | |||
| ::::::To have a concise summary of what the uncontested sources say Red Hat consisted of, in the mainspace. Your assiduous research has demonstrated that there's lots more, but the triply-verified core of the subject is the 1971 ship transfer. | |||
| ::::::The community's original problem with your writing was not that the connected subjects were not valid, useful information, but coherence: so many only vaguely connected subjects are added, that diverge farther and farther from the point, that it is hard to justify their inclusion in one article. This is the main reason, I'd say, why the deletion debate was closed as it did. As an aside, doing this kind of thing on a controversial subject is difficult ahead of further secondary-source accounts. ] ] 13:20, 9 March 2017 (UTC) | |||
| :::::::"The community's problems" '''in 2011''' were partially nonsensical- for example, an editor took issue with a passage that I did not ever once edit and another passage that had been previously removed, a claim that there was some reinterpretation of primary sources and another that there there weren't reliable sources to tie these vague subjects together. The passage I didn't write but was blamed for writing is incidentally the ''exact part'' that you revived and put back in your version until I pointed it out. The next part is that the understanding of the subject in published sources changed '''in Dec. 2012''' with the discovery of new docs on the subject just as the you are using in your version says in its first line! | |||
| :::::::Even the initial deletion conversation over 5 years ago acknowledged that the "core" subject was larger than simply the 1971 transfer. Last, if the relation to these subjects is so vague that material couldn't be included or be mentioned, then why do they some get mention in your version. I submit that there is obvious need mention them because the additional newer sources that I have added since the initial deletion support an inclusion. When the article was first deleted five years ago there was a whole list of bogus ''concerns'' that I was alleged to have "''cooked up in my spare time''" The so-called vague relationship to the subject and the inclusion of such material is verified in reliable sources. | |||
| :::::::"''Uncontested sources''." Which sources are contested? | |||
| :::::::It seems like you are purposely ignoring just about all of the obvious controversies on the subject that have been exhaustively explored in various reliable sources on the subject. I have no idea what triply-verified core of the subject is referring to anymore as in nearly every source used, you seem to have ignored majority and minority conclusions. Is this because they might deviate from the 1971 relocation operation? ] (]) 15:53, 9 March 2017 (UTC) | |||
| {{od}} My strong view on the article deleted in 2011, shared by others, was that it was '''too long and too disconnected'''. If we two together allow ourselves to focus on that, there is a much stronger likelihood of more of your draft seeing mainspace. Please go back and take a look at ] if you like, about what kind of subjects normally hang together coherently for Misplaced Pages purposes. Please also note that we were '''not discussing your edits''' ('an editor took issue with a passage that I did not ever once edit') '''but the entire article.''' The article is not, and will not be yours at any time. There's no need to feel slighted at attacks on yours or others' drafted sections. | |||
| Uncontested -- possibly a bad choice of words. What seems clearly obvious is that there is no doubt in anyone's mind that Red Hat included the 1971 munitions transfer. I wanted to put something on that in the mainspace. Absolutely yes, for the purposes of placing a short summary of the 1971 munitions transfer in the mainspace, I did not include the material I had no particular expertise or research history with. My purpose was to get a generally agreed subject back into the mainspace. Then others -- I had you in mind -- could add in time material about which they had much greater expertise -- the unrevealed, covered-up, officially hidden issues. | |||
| I realize you are probably used to dealing with secondary and tertiary sources but in this instance wiki has become popular enough that it is being used as the primary source for the news event in this instance. | |||
| What I will say though is that such adding of material has to add together to be a coherent whole, as is described in ] -- not something that looks like an unreviewed series of jotted notes. There needs to be one coherent thread from beginning to end. | |||
| You have been given the full transcript of the whistleblowers confession, with only the names redacted, his own actions and opinion is what is being reported upon and his testimony is the primary source of that opinion. | |||
| Finally, I'm trying to clear about my motivations. Please stop impugning them, and ], and avoid any more personal attacks. I have refrained from reporting you for personal attacks, but I'm well within my rights to do so. ] ] 17:04, 9 March 2017 (UTC) | |||
| There are certainly any number of interesting conversations on various topics that we could link to, but the existence of those conversations is not in any way news, it is simply a number of people conversing on a common topic. The only news event of note is the behind-the-scenes events described in the whistleblowers statement and that is included in full. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 15:01, 24 September 2013 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
| :Addendum; I've just gone looking for the userspace guidelines, via WP:MfD, and found this provision: "Userspace is not a free web host and should not be used to indefinitely host pages that look like articles, old revisions, or deleted content, or your preferred version of disputed content." The link is at ]. Sorry to have to pass on this rather-horrid-sounding advisory.. ] ] 17:41, 9 March 2017 (UTC) | |||
| == Westgate centre shooting == | |||
| ::Thank you for clearing that up but let's not be silly. Intent from your deeds seems inconsistent from your words. Make no mistake, to support the initial deletion, the stated views from other editors concerned edits attributed to me. I did feel slighted, however that is irrelevant. It made me uber-focused on verifiability but it does not mean there aren't or won't be even better sources. | |||
| There are actually now a whole bunch of unsourced edits. Even by known editors. People don't read whats beng written much less discuss. Its hard policing a current ongoing article. Its not that I care about keeping content in or out, its just keeping it straight. For example, there was a talk page discussion that apart for me was unanimous the other side, which I naturally had no qualms when that consensus changes it cause at least there was discussion and reasoning. Point being, how to police these ITN articles. Makes me feel like it shouldn't even go on there.(] (]) 04:57, 22 September 2013 (UTC)). | |||
| ::I agree it was (and is) too long and some of it was disconnected. However, some of it ''was and is'' strongly connected and factual but just not understood-which has been born out the reliable sources published since. I still hope to convince you and other editors of that. | |||
| :Well, on the bright side, I see that it has been moved to the right title. ] (]) 16:10, 22 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| ::The sand box is for developing material and there is no time limit to do that that I am aware of. | |||
| ::My intent, stated repeatedly, is to move it to the main space when it is ready. Your edit declaring my intent to leave it there in perpetuity assumes bad faith too. ''Your '''rights'''''? You've asserted it was not yet ready and stated your opinions why you felt that way-that is your right (if you even have any ''rights'' on WP to begin with). | |||
| ::A few phases in the last edit stuck me: "''What seems clearly obvious is that there is no doubt in anyone's mind'' that Red Hat included..." (also "''generally agreed''"). Are you referring to doubts in the mind of editors or doubts about agreement with a source? | |||
| == Batman Arkham Origins page protection == | |||
| ::That question ''seems'' to be the ''root'' of our disagreement. Editors still seem to have ''doubts'' about something from a source or it's relevance to the subject. | |||
| :::I wanted to make sure the mainspace included something about the 1971 munitions transfer. No more, no less. ] ] 19:18, 10 March 2017 (UTC) | |||
| ::"''I did not include the material I had no particular expertise or research history with.''" | |||
| ::In my view, this is very likely because the sources, core or otherwise, that is used in the version you've created were never ''triply verified''. | |||
| :::As I've said above, this was about placing something about the 1971 munitions transfer in the mainspace. ] ] 19:18, 10 March 2017 (UTC) | |||
| ::By my count, out of the eleven sources now used in the main space submission that you created, three are dead links, two do not have any link, three of the citations have retrieval dates (2012) that you could not have retrieved and a fourth (with no retrieval date) was written (2012) during a time that you were not even interested in the subject. | |||
| ::Only ''one'' cited reference has a retrieval date (2016-12-28) that ''you'' verified and that source has all kinds of stuff you aren't grasping, or including, or even believe is relevant. In fact about 1/3-1/2(?) of that ''triply verified'' source is about Agent Orange! | |||
| ::For example, these subjects (and more) are from that one source: "...details of that project have been kept firmly under wraps...newly disclosed scientific studies — and accounts from U.S. veterans who participated in Operation Red Hat — are casting light on the mission and exposing what truly occurred — including the alleged dumping of chemical weapons off the coast of Okinawa." | |||
| ::"B-52s bombers...the full spectrum of America’s weapons of mass destruction, including hundreds of nuclear warheads and a large arsenal of chemical munitions." | |||
| ::"Newly discovered documents...international accusations conducting illegal chemical warfare." | |||
| ::"Now, however, new evidence...Moreover, it appears yet another poison was omitted from officials’ accounts of Operation Red Hat — the toxic defoliant Agent Orange." | |||
| ::"Ongoing contamination from these substances is another potentially lethal problem...The U.S. military has a long and nasty history of contaminating its bases on Okinawa...poisonous legacy of these weapons of mass destruction." | |||
| :::Your understanding of the subject appears to be inconsistent with the source(s). | |||
| ::The end result of deleting the original article and recreating it over and over is that the talk page(s) are lost forever and those discussions helped to explain some of the contested relevance you appear to still not grasp. ] (]) 17:53, 10 March 2017 (UTC) | |||
| :::Red Hat did without doubt include the 1971 munitions transfer - that's unquestioned. As I've tried to make clear, I aimed by recreating the article to place something about that in the mainspace. I've never examined the sources you talk of; I don't grasp all of the contested relevance, as I've tried to make clear several times. What I added was much more on my interest, military formations ; I added the logistical units and verified some of the ships. As I've said above, I expected you to come along and add to the article with all the things I'm not an expert on. Please stop endlessly questioning the reasons for what I've done previously (and my good faith), and just start adding to the article with your expertise!! We've wasted barrels of ink on this page, let's work on the article!! As an addendum, if you would like the previous talk pages resuscitated, I can do that. ] ] 19:18, 10 March 2017 (UTC) | |||
| ::::I had asked to restore the talk page five years ago but at the time, you were unable to. If you can still do it, I'd like to see what else is there-if anything. | |||
| Hello again Mark. May you please consider protecting ]? Recently, leaked game achievements were released revealing potential characters, and IPs and unconfirmed editors have added this info, and will continue to, without sourcing a reliable news outlet that reports this that does not reference back to the achievement list. If you decide to protect, is it possible to request it be for two months? That would cover the time now, as well as the rampant edits done to the page (as I believe it will be high profile) once the game is released on October 25. Thank you. Also, I hope that I am not bothering or burdening you with these requests directly. If you would prefer I go directly to ], I shall, but I see your great work, and know I can get results this way, without the page waiting in RPP. - ] (]) 17:33, 22 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| :Also, a block of ] is in order, if another admin does not get to them first. Thank you. - ] (]) 17:41, 22 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| ::Ok, did both. ] (]) 17:48, 22 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| :::Thank you very much. Much appreciated. - ] (]) 17:50, 22 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| ::::2013 article issues that might be on the talk pages: | |||
| == ] == | |||
| ::::*excessive amount of intricate detail that may only interest a specific audience. (June 2013) | |||
| ::::*relies too much on references to primary sources. (June 2013) | |||
| ::::*may lend undue weight to certain ideas, incidents, or controversies. (June 2013) | |||
| ::::*some listed sources may not be reliable. (June 2013) | |||
| ::::*may be too long to read and navigate comfortably. (June 2013) | |||
| ::::*sections may stray from the topic of the article. (April 2013) | |||
| ::::As explained, I was advised to ping you by the deleting editor as a courtesy for your input on the current state of the draft. If you won't review the relevant sources at least to determine relevance then all of the time and effort spent over the last five years discussing it or relevance of certain parts really is moot. It was once a B-article before it was deleted. The draft material in my sand box (which now has a few easily-removed editing notes based on our previous conversations) has five years of additional development and new sources and you've recreated a stub (or start) entry without reviewing ''any'' of the sources? I honestly do not want to legitimize that action as I don't agree with doing it, or the way it was done, or really anything else about it. I would much rather publish a far improved and perhaps a fully developed (maybe even great) article when it is ready. | |||
| Why did you mark the page for semi-protection? There's only been one or two cases of vandalism, not really anything persistent. <span style="text-shadow:#808080 0.1em 0.1em 0.1em">] (])</span> 18:13, 22 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| ::::I am willing to collaborate provided the newly revived main space piece is handled but you'll need to be willing to review the sources to understand why something might be relevant before immediately determining on intuition that it should go elsewhere and removing it. It is in its current state because this is how the subject is presented in those sources. That might be the wrong approach but please understand why this was done before you decide. | |||
| :By my count it's been vandalized more than ten times in the past week, which is inside the range I usually look for when semi-protecting. ] (]) 18:24, 22 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| ::::Then I'll need help understanding where it else should go and why that is the best route (I do understand size is an issue) and assistance in writing a draft summary bit that points to it the newly relocated material. | |||
| ::Going through the history list, I count one from and another from , however the latter could have been an accident. I've done that before without realizing it. <span style="text-shadow:#808080 0.1em 0.1em 0.1em">] (])</span> 21:07, 22 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| ::::A lot of this is various operations, projects, organizations, units, etc. of which I have little experience ( I wrote ]-which is probably terrible as it was my first learn-as-you-go unit article attempt) and there is plenty of room to expand these very areas in which you specialize. But there is a ton of controversies and nearly every aspect of it is a new controversy and a really is a challenge to present all sides plus the background in a small sentence or paragraph. | |||
| :::As far as clear vandalism or spam goes, I count an average of one a day over the past week . That's a conservative count, not including the IPs who keep changing the capitalization, which is arguably disruptive editing as well. ] (]) 21:25, 22 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| ::::1 and 6 could've been an accident (previously stated this), 2 and 5 are insignificant, 4 is clearly impacts the reading, and I believe that 3 thought the paragraph was too critical (they should've brought it up on the talk page). So I see only one of any significance. <span style="text-shadow:#808080 0.1em 0.1em 0.1em">] (])</span> 23:17, 22 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| ::::A Deletion Review ] based primarily on the new sources (and the removal of the the obvious rookie mistakes) would have been appropriate and perhaps still is. It is the length and perhaps level of detail that are still legitimate concerns and the true scope of the topic is what we need to determine from the sources. ] (]) 16:53, 12 March 2017 (UTC) | |||
| == ]== | |||
| What criteria is needed to identify the criminals in this case? How many reliable sources? Or are you taking the Noticeboard discussion as definitive? Because I think this issue would be treated completely different if these kids had shot someone. But sexual assault? There's an attitude in some media accounts of "Eh, let's not let it ruin their lives" that ignores the violence involved. <font face="Rage Italic" size="4" color="#800080">]</font> <sup><font face="Times New Roman" color="#006400">] ]</font></sup> 21:54, 22 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| :Well, unfortunately, we rely on the media, so if reliable sources choose not to publish something, our hands are more or less tied. In general though, I think there should be a strong consensus achieved first before accusing someone of crimes in an article. That's not to say they should never be named though. I'd have to look through the sources and discussions before coming to a more specific conclusion though. ] (]) 22:00, 22 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| :: They weren't accused of crimes, they were convicted of crimes. And another Editor has taken it upon himself to rename and edit the article. <font face="Rage Italic" size="4" color="#800080">]</font> <sup><font face="Times New Roman" color="#006400">] ]</font></sup> 14:16, 23 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| :::::'sections may stray from the topic of the article' - creating a coherent article - is my primary concern, and is why I want you to add to the mainspace article as it is instead of trying to import any amorphous mass of text. You have not proved to the community you can write a coherent article properly, and frankly on crafting coherent articles your record is not good. Happy to review any sources as they enter the mainspace, but as things are you've repeatedly told me to stay away from your draft/sources. I'll get the talkpages restored. Regards ] ] 11:35, 13 March 2017 (UTC) | |||
| == Diocese of Cubao == | |||
| You have no right to judge if this article has references. All the necessary references have been indicated. I want to protect this page from other users. Please revert MY new additions. | |||
| ::::::The concern where 'sections may stray from the topic of the article' material (Japanese WWII and Korean BW allegations) was moved out of the draft and into the appropriate main space article many years ago. I also wrote ] so frankly, what other so-called ''proof'' could one need? If we can't even agree to review sources it is probably best to stay away from the draft for now. I'm always willing to hear about a specific concern. I still want the fork article gone. It is a Fork and you've stated that you did not review any sources that support your opinion of the what this subject is or is not- which is now in the main space. ] (]) 16:47, 14 March 2017 (UTC) | |||
| ] | |||
| :::::::I'm afraid you misunderstand me. Your draft as it stands has no 'golden thread' - single argument traceable from beginning to end. It's not a coherent article addressing one issue - instead it conflates, confusingly, multiple issues of which many arguably really don't address the core topic. That's why when I started editing the original article several years ago I was excising multiple chunks of text. That is my overall concern. | |||
| ] | |||
| :::::::Regarding forks, yes, we have one short summary article in the mainspace and your magnum opus in your userspace. But the munitions transfer of 1971 is what Red Hat unquestionably ''is''. I would argue that what you've got in your userspace is a better approximation of a POV folk, if we go with the guidelines at ]. You've got a clear viewpoint on Red Hat, but it goes well beyond the generally accepted 1971 ship ride as described in many other sources (Globalsecurity.org, for example, or Men and a Mission). For my purposes at the minute I'm worried about the sources that define the core of the subject, not the sources about the connected issues. So I will not move or change the current existing article. You're entirely free to nominate it for deletion, of course. ] ] 18:31, 14 March 2017 (UTC) | |||
| :Yes, I saw you remove a bunch of text and thought it was an editing mistake with the visual editor. If that was intentional, please carry on. ] (]) 02:29, 23 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| :::::::::At least we can agree that your "mass excising" removed big parts of a main space article for which reliable sources supporting inclusion unambiguously now exist. That is one of the criteria that allows a ]. | |||
| :::::::::Your viewpoint that "the munitions transfer of 1971 is what Red Hat unquestionably is" is just plain wrong (again, see ] or any source mentioned above). | |||
| :::::::::Are you speaking of the Global security article citation about that has a very limited and outdated bit about the subject in it or , over all of the other high quality sources? | |||
| :::::::::What is "generally accepted," according to several our reliable sources, changed around 2012. Your stated purpose resists adherence to reliable sources and promotes your opinion of what this subject is. That goal does not seem consistent with our Misplaced Pages policies. ] (]) 15:27, 16 March 2017 (UTC) | |||
| {{od}} No, sorry, would not agree. Not part of Op Red Hat, which is why I removed the sections. Re the 2012 disclosures, if you mean the 267 Chem Co's operation of DOD Project 112, Site 2, that information should be in the ] article, whether or not the munitions were actually stored in the RSHA. Data about Project 112 should stay in the Project 112 article. There might be one line mentioning the storage and linking to Proj 112 in the Red Hat article, but that would be all that's required. Cheers ] ] 11:05, 17 March 2017 (UTC) | |||
| :Just restored the talkpage history. ] ] 14:34, 17 March 2017 (UTC) | |||
| ::Thank you for the restoration of the talk page. I will take a look at it. | |||
| ::"The 267 Chem Co's operation of DOD Project 112, Site 2, information should be in the Project 112 article," (it has a section) | |||
| ::"Data about Project 112 should stay in the Project 112 article," (I moved it to Deseret Test Center) | |||
| ::"There might be one line mentioning the storage and linking to Proj 112 in the Red Hat article, but that would be all that's required." (hardly) | |||
| ::Unfortunately what you've suggested is not likely to ever happen. Please Stop and pause here to review the sources and understand that: | |||
| Where is the sandbox of my diocese ?? Pls help me find it. | |||
| ::*Operations YBA, YBB, YBF were the operational security names for RED HAT deployments. | |||
| ::*Red Hat was an operational security name for PROJECT 112 | |||
| ::*Project 112 was an operational security name for Project Deseret. ] (]) 01:04, 18 March 2017 (UTC) | |||
| :::The Organizational History of the 267 Chem Co, in that article, clearly states YBA, YBB, and YBF were part of DOD Project 112. Yes they went into the RSHA but they were part of 112. The ] article needs to be reorganised to place these shipments, a major part of the project, in much higher prominence. ] ] 06:56, 18 March 2017 (UTC) | |||
| ::::You've just pretty much agreed with me in one way - 'Red Hat was an opsec name for 112' - which in my terms would mean everything would be at ]. In my terms, there would be a few lines about the Red Hat codename, but nothing more, at the 112 article. Whether the data indicates much of your sandbox should see the light of day at ] or ] (your third line above) I'm not sure, but neither of those are Red Hat. ] ] 07:05, 18 March 2017 (UTC) | |||
| :::::I agreed there should be mention at those places. I am going to warn against what you are proposing and if you even try it (as you've done by reviving the old article) without reviewing any of the sources for verifiability there will be administrative issues going forward. | |||
| :::::That would be a bad move. The sources do not and would not ever support that effort. I urge you to pause and review material and you really should heed that advice before proceeding given your previous assertions that you haven't looked at any of the sources on these subjects. ] (]) 12:42, 18 March 2017 (UTC) | |||
| :::::This source must be reviewed to proceed: | |||
| :::::Brankowitz, William R., Chemical Stockpile Disposal Program. Chemical Weapons Movement History Compilation : OFFICE OF THE PROGRAM MANAGER CHEMICAL DEMILITARIZATION ABERDEEN PROVING GROUND, MD, 12 June 1987 16:35, 18 March 2017 (UTC) | |||
| {{od}} | |||
| ], So...the moment that I start breaking up my large draft, you apparently want to start to battling over it and ] and now with the section title: "'''U.S. weapons of mass destruction in Japan'''" That move was just... underhanded and pathetic. | |||
| And you've done this without discussing or waiting for anyone else to discuss the merge you proposed! When I asked you where you thought this material should go ''repeatedly'' you never once mentioned these any interest locations. | |||
| Now, material is only one day out-or less of my sandbox (or an hour, or 5 min after my last edit), it's as if the pages I am editing are suddenly the only thing on Misplaced Pages and you cant keep you hands off my recent submissions to immediately after I hit submit. It is pretty frustrating. WP is a big place. Please find something else to do and get away from me and the edits I make already! ] (]) 04:32, 19 March 2017 (UTC) | |||
| ] <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added 02:32, 23 September 2013 (UTC)</span><!--Template:Undated--> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
| :You persist in trying to maintain, *exactly* *as* *you* *have* *drafted* *it*, huge slabs of horribly drafted text which present the issues clearly from one particular viewpoint. There are significant amounts of irrelevant issues (eg Bockscar's landing in an article about post-World War II weapons storage) in there. These type of issues got your magnum opus deleted entirely previously. So why are you surprised when people reorganise your material so it matches better with WP guidelines on content and layout? Clearly the consensus of the community has not changed much, or Hohum wouldn't have deleted large slabs of the nuclear weapons in the southern islands article. | |||
| :I'm sorry, I don't know what you mean. But you can create ] and use that as your sandbox if you like. ] (]) 02:34, 23 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| :Then you ignore our clearly written lines -- in each editing box -- that people may redraft your material at will, and persist in wanting to keep it exactly as is, in defiance of ]. Just read ], please. | |||
| :Now, I'm going to be here trying to redraft your material into a fashion that's vaguely in line with WP guidelines (which will involve a merge into J & Weapons of mass destruction, because both articles are well under our size limits, and the material fits better into our long-established series of 'X Country & WMD articles'), and I'm going to continue to be here. Anyone can edit any article they like. These are the guidelines under which you agreed to start editing, and haven't changed. If you're unhappy with the consensus of the community, you may seek other-admin action or discussion at a range of sites - there's already a quick post at ] about it. Cheers ] ] 07:25, 19 March 2017 (UTC) | |||
| :Re your B-52 crash article, you should be aware of the guidelines at ]. Military aircraft accidents have generally been deemed not notable. Personally I think it's probably worth inclusion as a separate accident, given the huge explosion. It needs to be linked into the B-52 article, the Kadena article, and the relevant wing and squadron articles. You just need to be aware that somebody else may come along in time and think it's not notable. Take a look at ] anyway, and if you want further input, best place to ask is ]. ] ] 07:45, 19 March 2017 (UTC) | |||
| ::You've missed my intent. I am not try to ] (I'm not even that good of a writer). You stated repeatedly that you still don't understand x, y, or Z and I am going to undo any misguided edits you make to the material that are based on those misunderstandings. ''Your faulty understanding'' is being challenged and will continue to be challenged as long as it persists. | |||
| == Protecting my User Page == | |||
| ::Show me where you discussed a move after you first proposed it. I would also advise you to understand what the legal definitions of WMD are and exactly what you are getting into (with herbicides and precursors as WMDs). Maybe the entire sandbox draft should get dumped in there... | |||
| Thank You for protecting my user page. If I'm ready to have my user page, i'll request unprotection at any time! | |||
| Thanks! ] (]) 22:06, 22 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| ::It's a waste of time to even try to debate because your ''understanding'' of the subject is ''way off.'' I have explained in edits, edit summaries, this talk page, and on the talk page of the entry that your assertions are faulty. | |||
| I'm ready to add badges to my user page. Is it okay that my user page be unprotected please? ] (]) 00:41, 23 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| ::For example: that "in an article about post-World War II weapons"...WWII A-bombs don't count and any mention of them (or fighting on Okinawa in the decision to use them) should be removed. | |||
| : Your user page doesn't seem to be protected at all, WikiGuru but I question ] which mostly are warnings to other Editors. This is a strange edit history and focus for a five day old account. <font face="Rage Italic" size="4" color="#800080">]</font> <sup><font face="Times New Roman" color="#006400">] ]</font></sup> 15:14, 23 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| ::Just look at the title of the entry that says '']'' and then and tell me what kind of common sense you are using to determine the ]s on ] are ''not'' ] ] in ] ]s. it is beyond comprehension and I see no point in wasting keystrokes engaging you on that ridiculous viewpoint about the WWII parts of that entry being pushed any longer. I'll be waiting for some type of intelligent response... I opened a talk page section to discuss those concerns and on the . | |||
| ::Well, new accounts are allowed to issue warnings, as long as they're merited. Besides, there are plenty of ] users who are very familiar with Misplaced Pages. ] (]) 15:29, 23 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| ::And you inserted serious falsehoods into the main space article that both of the attacks were launched from Okinawa. I make mistakes all the time but I still cannot grasp that any kind of experienced military history editor that has the slightest understanding of this material would ever type that - even by accident - and it makes your arguments and each of your repeated edits to remove material that's includes the WWII part ''very highly suspect''. | |||
| ::On the ], it is linked to those things already (in categories--if I understand your concern but perhaps I do not) and is notable using WPs already established standards of notability -not so much for the size of the explosion, which was enormous, but for the danger it put the weapons depot in, protests, impact on reversion, removal of B-52s, nukes and chemical weapons... this was my first crash article and I'll review the policy(s). ] (]) 13:49, 19 March 2017 (UTC) | |||
| == Gilbert Tuhabonye Protected Page == | |||
| :::Of course, I disagree: I think I do understand. But, for example, you write an article all of which is about post-1945 except three sentences in the lead, and I interpret that to be about post-1945 only. We have rulings about the lead reflecting the article. I've already said how I believe most of what you have left under Red Hat actually belongs under 112 (or possibly under Project Deseret), and I've laid out my reasons, none of which are invalidated by further things you've said, or by the Chemical Weapons Movement History Compilation, as far as I've scanned it so far. But never mind -- I will cut straight to the chase. Would you prefer I start a ] (miscellany for deletion) discussion on your preferred, but disputed, version of the article in your sandbox, in line with ], not in six months as I had intended to propose, but now? Then we'll get this cleared up sooner rather than later. Cheers ] ] 15:21, 19 March 2017 (UTC) | |||
| ::::Go ahead and disagree for now... "Your ''reasons''..." Please continue reviewing our sources. | |||
| ::::I think the ''reasons'' will soon be fairly obvious why what you have proposed re:Project 112 won't work at all. There is not really a lot of mention of Red Hat within PJ112 but you will figure that out on your own...''eventually''. I had tried to do that that under Operation Red Hat and no editors to date have ever understood why that was done. | |||
| ::::Putting this all together under "Red Hat" is going to be the only common sense and policy grounded solution. | |||
| ::::''Cutting straight to the chase'', I am looking at primary Jan 71 DOD sources with the nomenclature, "Subject: Red Hat," "Red Hat Facilities," "This is a Red Hat Message," "(USARPAC) OPLAN RED HAT," etc.; ...''not Operation Red Hat.'' | |||
| ::::Below are what I feel to be ''critical'' sources to understand the various ''seemingly unrelated'' subjects presented in the sandbox draft: | |||
| ::::*Chemical Weapons Movement History (with additional focus on search terms Red Hat, YBA, YBB, YBF, OKC). | |||
| ::::*Red Hat ''Wall St. Journal'' article of 18 July 1969. Also review the top 3 sources that are currently in the revived article: | |||
| ::::*NARA. Operation Red Hat: Men and a mission (1971) | |||
| ::::*Mitchell, Jon (2013-07-27). "Exclusive: Red Hat's lethal Okinawa smokescreen". The Japan Times Online. ISSN 0447-5763. Retrieved 2016-12-28. | |||
| ::::*Mitchell, Jon, "'Were we marines used as guinea pigs on Okinawa?'," Japan Times, 4 December 2012, p. 14 | |||
| ::::These are not ''all'' of the relevant sources but when you can say you read these and understand how they present the subject, come back with the ] sugg. At that point, it should be plainly obvious one which of us presents the fake (hoax) version but at least you should be in reasonable a position to make a valid argument that is consistent with our sources. If ], then we are likely in for a lot of conflict. | |||
| ::::Right now, the MFD suggestion is interpreted by this editor simply as your latest threat to/ attempt to separate me from the sandbox draft material I wrote apparently so you can take some type of credit for years of research the sources-ID. I am at a loss to understand your motivations while assuming good faith. There is still plenty of other wikipedia out there to improve... | |||
| ::::I am not a know-it-all by any stretch of imagination but this is a complicated subject that editors probably need to understand if they are going to persistently battle over material with another editor who sort of does understand it. I learned all about the subject it by writing the draft and intend to see this through. Taking advantage of that understanding would be the logical and wise solution. I've tried and failed to explain it--and especially to you. When I think the material is ready I will move it out and we can make sure it complies with all editor concerns. We need to be able to understand how those sources present this subject or we are going to have another content dispute (again). | |||
| ::::From your last edit, I don't think we are there yet. So please let me know the moment that we are. ] (]) 03:20, 20 March 2017 (UTC) | |||
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| == Deletion "Baylis and Harding" == | |||
| Hello Mark I hope you are well, | |||
| Over 3 years ago you deleted ] - a UK company who has grown in size and can be found in 1 in 2 households in the UK now and can be found talked about in a number of UK newspapers: | |||
| * http://www.dailymail.co.uk/video/tvshowbiz/video-1400265/Kelly-Brook-sent-Twitter-meltdown-raunchy-NTA-advert.html | |||
| * http://www.express.co.uk/showbiz/tv-radio/759218/Kelly-Brook-NTA-viewers-wild-raunchy-advert-Baylis-and-Harding | |||
| * http://www.independent.co.uk/extras/indybest/fashion-beauty/beauty/best-beauty-gifts-valentines-day-for-her-a6839376.html | |||
| They also have over 57,000 followers on Facebook, compared with the ] which only has 43,000, but has a Wiki page. | |||
| As this company has grown in size and notability, I would like to request for the deletion to be reversed allowing the company to appear on Misplaced Pages. | |||
| I look forward to hearing back from you! | |||
| ] (]) 12:53, 3 May 2017 (UTC) | |||
| == Deletion "Atlanta Wrestling Entertainment" == | |||
| On December 16, 2015, you deleted ] - an active independent wrestling promotion in the state of Georgia. | |||
| They have a website: | |||
| * http://atlantawrestlingentertainment.com/index/ | |||
| They have a very active presence on Facebook that is frequently updated: | |||
| * https://www.facebook.com/AtlantaWrestlingEntertainment/ | |||
| And, their shows are documented and recorded on the Georgia Wrestling History website, which counters the argument that there is no in-depth coverage: | |||
| Review for most recent show (May 1st): | |||
| * http://gwhnewsandnotes.blogspot.com/2017/05/atlanta-wrestling-entertainment-report.html?spref=fb&m=1 | |||
| They have 5,275 followers on Facebook and are continuing to grow. They even have an active online fanbase, with 450 active members of a Fans of AWE fan group. | |||
| The company's owner, Josh Von Wheeler, and I want to work on actively updating an Atlanta Wrestling Entertainment Misplaced Pages page, to post about the history of the promotion and its ongoing story line, so that new fans will have an easily accessible way to catch up on what the company has accomplished and what has been going on with the wrestling and story for each season. Having a manageable Misplaced Pages page will help in making the promotion more viable to prospective fans. | |||
| I would like to ask for the page to be reinstated or to have permission to begin working on a new page. Atlanta Wrestling Entertainment (AWE) is doing more, actively, than a number of wrestling promotions that actually have Wiki pages (like ]) and are now defunct business (FWE, by its own page's admission, closed up show in 2015). | |||
| AWE is wrapping up their third season this summer, and has been frequenting historic venues in downtown Atlanta, a metropolitan city, whereas some of the other promotions that have pages are in rural areas. | |||
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| ] (]) 14:53, 4 May 2017 (UTC) | |||
| ==Deletion ULMA Construction== | |||
| In 14 December 2015 the Misplaced Pages entry for ] was deleted because "The coverage (references, external links, etc.) does not seem sufficient to justify this article passing Misplaced Pages:General notability guideline" | |||
| I have written again ] Misplaced Pages entry with reliable sources. Which is the best option to go ahead? To publish it again with the new sources? Could I show it to you so you can tell me if it's an adecuate wiki entry? | |||
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| Hi, I have question on an AFD you closed a couple of years ago. You correctly closed ] as delete in March 2013. However, the article that should have been deleted per the AFD ] with a history dating back to 2012. So what happened? Why wasn't it deleted?]]]1 00:24, 8 August 2017 (UTC) | |||
| :{{tpw}} Mark has not edited since January, so he may not see this. The article that went through AFD and then DRV is still deleted. The version that is in the mainspace was created in a sandbox, ], in 2012 13 hours before the same editor created the mainspace article. The current article sat in the sandbox until {{u|Buffbills7701}} moved it to ] as the preferred location for AFC submissions. {{u|Enterprisey}} then accepted the AFC submission a couple of weeks later and moved it to the mainspace. At this point the two are similar but is it "substantially identical to the deleted version" I don't think so. If you think it should be deleted again ] is probably the way to go. ] 10:55, 8 August 2017 (UTC) | |||
| ::Thanks for the explanation.]]]1 18:57, 8 August 2017 (UTC) | |||
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| :No objection, thanks for the note though. ] (]) 11:44, 20 December 2017 (UTC) | |||
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== Jimmy Kimmel == | ||
| You added pending review to the Kimmel BLP but it appears we have an active IP vandalizing the article so could you change that to semi-protect for a while? <sup>]]]</sup> 03:17, 17 January 2018 (UTC) | |||
| Hi Mark, you blocked 76.164.103.108 for a week for edit-warring personal commentary into ]; this editor's block ''just'' expired (I think 4 hours ago) and the first edit is . I left a warning, maybe keep an eye on it? Thanks... <code>]]</code> 20:43, 23 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| :Thanks for the note, if he reverts again I'll block again. ] (]) 20:45, 23 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| == Clifton Hill Community Music Centre deletion -> draft? == | |||
| == Fully professional == | |||
| Hello Mark. I have a some question . Can you help me for find answer? Thank you. ] (]) 21:45, 23 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| :I'm not too familiar with that guideline, to be honest. ] (]) 23:36, 23 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| Hi, is there a way the Clifton Hill Music Community Centre could be reinstated, even as a draft page (my draft area is ok). I can add/find more references for it. I added a note on https://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Requests_for_undeletion#Clifton_Hill_Community_Music_Centre and they mentioned to try contact you about it. This collective/site was an important part of Melbourne and Australian post punk, experimental and electronic music history. It's mentioned in books and web page histories of this period. I didn't notice it had been deleted until I tried to link it from other artist pages. thanks ] (]) 04:08, 6 February 2018 (UTC) | |||
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| :Yes, just saw the update on the sock investigation page. It turns out vii/virgin wasn't actually the master account. ] (]) 23:36, 23 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
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| == Ahmed Abdul Rahim Al Attar Tower == | |||
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| Hi, i think that AfD was closed incorrectly, as subject meets ]. It is currently 40th ], some sources were submitted during Afd (for another , , , , or ). --] (]) 22:55, 23 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
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| == Nextdoor == | |||
| == ] article == | |||
| Hi, | |||
| Mark, I see that you very recently closed the ] for this article as <Strike>delete</Strike> keep. I'm dropping by your talk page about this article because I don't know what kind of improvement (the edit I reverted) is supposed to be. I hope that it is not typical of ] to "improve" articles that way. ] (]) 00:34, 24 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| :I closed it as keep actually, not delete. But several people in the Afd supported the idea of stubbing the article, so culling a decent amount of text may be in order. So Xxanthippe probably had the right general idea, but I think he went a bit overboard with that edit. It would be good to leave in some claim of importance, or someone might tag it for A7. ] (]) 00:59, 24 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| ::Yes, I meant "keep" (the article still exists, after all, LOL) and (as seen) I have struck the word ''delete''/replaced it with ''keep'' above. Indeed, Xxanthippe's stubbing the article signaled to me that the article was worth deleting as that version far more than its previous version could be argued as being worth deletion. I am aware of the "absence of citations in an article (as distinct from the non-existence of sources) does not indicate that the subject is not notable" factor with regard to the ] guideline, but many Misplaced Pages editors (including very experienced ones) are not aware of it; they see a stub with no or barely any sources and often immediately think "deletion" or seek deletion with regard to the article. Sure, I often think "deletion" when I see such an article, but I at least know to first look for WP:Reliable sources/try to determine if the stub needs to be merged. ] (]) 01:19, 24 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| :::Yeah, I suppose that is one of the problems with stubbing. It would be good to leave some citations as a further reading section at least, if it is stubbed. ] (]) 01:27, 24 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| I disagree about the need to stub. The article could be gone over sentence by sentence with a scalpel not TNT. -- ] (]) 01:45, 24 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| :Yeah, that's getting to the heart of a philosophical issue. Is it better to eventually improve things even if that means problems will persist in the short term or immediately do away with flawed content? I don't really have the answer. ] (]) 01:48, 24 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| *'''Comment'''. I have taken the liberty of copying this exchange to ]. ] (]) 02:19, 25 September 2013 (UTC). | |||
| ::::::Hi. As a contributor to the AfD ] on ] I let you know that there is a debate going on the article's talk page ] about how to implement the findings of the AfD . ] (]) 00:01, 26 September 2013 (UTC). | |||
| You left a Talk comment about the article for ] (a long time ago!) I've written a an in-depth proposal describing my redraft of the article here: https://en.wikipedia.org/Talk:Nextdoor#Request_for_Review | |||
| == ] == | |||
| Would you mind weighing in to the discussion? | |||
| Hmm... Considering moderate to high amount of protection this year, is amount of edits too high to consider "indefinite pending changes"? --] (]) 01:24, 24 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| :I'd prefer to go with semi-protection here, but you could ask for a second opinion if you like. ] (]) 01:28, 24 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| :: If an article is highly edited, then "pending changes" is inappropriate. As I can see in <span class="plainlinks"></span>, the article could be frequently edit, unless I count the math wrong. --] (]) 04:52, 24 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| :::It's a judgment call I guess, but this is pretty frequently edited. ] (]) 14:59, 24 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| Thanks, | |||
| == Eleutherococcus senticosus == | |||
| ] (]) 21:03, 3 May 2018 (UTC)BC1278 | |||
| Hi, could you offer some advice as an administrator, please? You declined my request for semi-protection for a page that has been the target of a ridiculous addition repeatedly over a period of years. The same thing has happened , but I believe that my hands are tied because reverting would be considered to be edit warring. Another editor has to combat this in the past and failed (I'll alert them that I have posted this message here). ] (]) 13:21, 24 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| :When did I decline the request? If things continue I may be able to reconsider. I wouldn't worry too much about being accused of edit warring here. It isn't happening that frequently so just reverting and explaining your changes should be fine. I would suggest leaving an explanation on the IP's talk page though. That makes it easier for an admin to block if they keep it up. ] (]) 15:02, 24 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| ::Another user has stepped in to remove the silliness, which is cheering ... perhaps the nearly invincible Randy in Boise won't win this particular battle :) You declined the request on 17th September. I'm a bit behind on dealing with my watch list, just dealing with the 21 September repeat of the silly addition today. ] (]) 20:58, 24 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| ::Mark - this has being going on since maybe February or January. The page had some sort of semi-protection scheme where IPs can edit it but it has to be approved by a registered editor in order for the changes to go into effect, but that seems to have expired. This particular vandal has been adding the exact same sentence, without a citation, for at least 6 months. It has used numerous IP addresses, so a ban (and I'm pretty sure one did happen at one point - I remember leaving messages at the IP's talk page and requesting it; in fact I'm pretty sure it was ] that carried it out) is meaningless. The page should go back to semi-protection, this time permanently, because it doesn't seem that this particular vandal is going to quit. I was the other user that reverted the IP, by the way. | |||
| == Dolores Cannon == | |||
| ::Thanks for your help ] (]) 21:19, 24 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| :::Ok, protected it for a while. ] (]) 00:55, 25 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| ==Malik Noureed Awan== | |||
| Please goto gulfnews.com and search mma forex you see list of from where i edi thte page. <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 15:35, 24 September 2013 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
| :Sorry, but per ] all negative information about living people must be directly cited to a reliable source. ] (]) 16:09, 24 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
| Please restore article about Dolores Cannon. This deletion was nothing else but pure vandalism. The author is very popular and *must* be represented on Misplaced Pages. Deletion is not her loss - it's loss for Misplaced Pages, community and the whole Internet. The article must be restored. ] (]) 09:28, 21 May 2018 (UTC) | |||
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| I 2nd this request to restore Dolores Cannon. While I have been a big believer in the GREATNESS that Misplaced Pages has been doing for the world over. I have used Misplaced Pages enough that I was even considering contributing to the Misplaced Pages Fund, but now that I see that they, Misplaced Pages, are actually deleting VERY real and accomplished people for truly frivolous reasons, i.e. a mere claim that she is "fake" without a reference to support that claim. I am now, not only not wanting to support Misplaced Pages, but I think that maybe the time has come to create a new platform that can allow people to make and post criticisms without the EXTREME action of deleting a VERY REAL, AMAZING AND ACCOMPLISH person. ] (]) 02:34, 15 December 2018 (UTC) Manuel Muro | |||
| John Kissinger has experience with many notable projects, the most notable of which is the Milwaukee Art Museum addition. This addition to the Milwaukee Art Museum, designed by Santiago Calatrava, has become a Milwaukee landmark. John worked on the project almost from its inception. The project was named the Number One Design of 2001 by TIME magazine, and has won | |||
| State, National and International engineering awards. | |||
| == REFUND == | |||
| As the leader of the GRAEF team, John’s vision, collaboration and commitment to innovation resulted in John being named one of Engineering News-Record Magazine’s “Top 25 Newsmakers for 2001.” Other notable projects include The Wisconsin Center in downtown Milwaukee, the McCormick Place West Expansion in Chicago, and the Lambeau Field renovation in Green Bay. Kissinger is also active in the local community, acting as chairman of the Milwaukee Area Workforce Investment Board. John was appointed by Milwaukee Mayor Tom Barrett to lead the agency in 2010. | |||
| Could you please undelete ], to ] with a {{tlx|userfiedpage}}? I've already "rescued" ], and can merge in anything salvageable from the band article. Tim Schuldt is definitely notable, and has been cranking out industrial and techno-industrial stuff since the early 1990s, before he started doing trance stuff. The attempts to write about him here so far have been by EDM-focused editors who don't know about his earlier work and collaborations. Working on it's a low priority, but I'll probably get to it eventually. Need to find the box with my old backissues of ''Industrial Nation'', etc. <span style="white-space:nowrap;font-family:'Trebuchet MS'"> — ] ] ] 😼 </span> 13:45, 5 June 2018 (UTC) | |||
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| :It does sound like he has been involved in some interesting projects, but are there media outlets that have given him significant coverage? (]) ] (]) 20:45, 24 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
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== Kate Moss == | ||
| The link in the references section # 33 Rimmel Advert is incorrect and goes to some security company advertising CCTV when the correct link should be the TV Ad which is at https://youtube.com/watch?v=jeZc6hjW22c | |||
| http://gulfnews.com/advanced-search/search-results?action=search&submitted=true&freeText=mma+forex&site=gulfnews&search=Search | |||
| I’ve tried to edit but although it eventually said it had saved, it’s still showing the wrong link <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 04:50, 23 July 2018 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
| == ] undeletion request == | |||
| visit there and see i edited the page but you changed these again. there is also other references search online yourself. <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 21:08, 24 September 2013 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
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| == 156.34.152.68 == | |||
| I'm surprised by the debate comments on ] and would like to check it and try to add sources to submit it. Could you restore it on my ] page or on ]? ] <small>(])</small> 12:18, 2 August 2018 (UTC) | |||
| thank you for blocking 156.34.152.68, it appears the edit pattern of User:Iftot is the same. ] (]) 22:54, 24 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
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| :::What a load of BS. The version frozen definately does not have any concensus regardless of the lack of good faith illustrated by MM. ] (]) 20:42, 26 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
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| 02:18, 19 August 2012 Mark Arsten talk contribs deleted page Bangdb (Misplaced Pages: Articles for deletion/Bangdb) (thank) | |||
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| I've recently been doing extensive editing on ] (a page you have semi-protected) and have proposed several changes that will alter the structure of the article. I've posted a request for comment on the talk page, but it appears there has been little activity there. Although I feel those changes are necessary, I wanted to get some feedback before I do anything that appears radical or will negatively affect the page. | |||
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| You Pending Changes protection on the ] article (it would appear, without a specific expiration date) on September 14, 2013. It seems that the article has remained under the PC protection since then. Could you please unprotect the article? It has not experienced significant vandalism activity recently, and in any case Pending Changes protection is only meant to be indefinite in cases of severe long-term disruption, per ]. Thanks, ] (]) 21:49, 20 March 2021 (UTC) | |||
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| This article has pending changes protection since 2013... Maybe it is time to remove this protection? ] (]) 12:29, 7 June 2021 (UTC) | |||
| :{{u|Davidhs0}}, Mark's participation is a bit spotty at the moment, so I've added the article to my watchlist. Unless I see something bad, I'll remove the pending changes part of the protection in a couple days. If I do forget, very possible, then feel free to ping me or drop a note on my talk and I'll remove it. ] (]) 14:53, 7 June 2021 (UTC) | |||
| ::] is the same, {{u|Ched}}. I just came here to request the same of Mark, but I saw this discussion was faily recent. ] (]) 00:50, 10 June 2021 (UTC) | |||
| :::{{u|Sennecaster}}, ] {{done}} .. let me know if you run into any IP problems and I'll go with semi-protect. With Foreman I'm less inclined to remove the protection, he's been a magnet for bad edits. You might ask at ] and see what they think. ] (]) 01:02, 10 June 2021 (UTC) | |||
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| You deleted a page about Rama Coomaraswamy in 2012 after a consensus he lack notability, citing the sources given were poor and referred mainly to his father, his being a priest was alleged, and being a priest and doctor does not meet notability and the page was written as an advertisement. | |||
| However, I think he meets notability standards as a writer/academic. He was professor of surgery at Albert Einstein College of Medicine and later professor of psychiatry. He was professor of ecclesiastical history at St. Thomas Aquinas Seminary. He wrote the book "The Destruction of the Christian tradition" published by ] and "The Invocation of the Name of Jesus: As Practiced in the Western Church" published by Fons Vitae. He was editor and wrote the introduction to "The Essential Ananda Coomaraswamy." He published in the journals the Study of Comparative Religion and Sacred Web. Related to his practice as a psychiatrist, he published in American journal of psychotherapy. He has wiki pages in Turkish, Italian, Polish, and Portuguese despite being an English-speaking American. His philosophy is discussed in the book "Writers in East-West Encounter: New Cultural Bearings" by Guy Amirthanayagam published by Palgrave Macmillian UK, "Julius Evola: The Philosopher and Magician in War: 1943-1945" by Gianfranco De Turris. He's mentioned by Carl Ernst in "Traditionalism, the Perennial Philosophy and Islamic Studies", "Present at the Creation: Documenting the Arts of India" by Lewis Rowell, "Reading the Church: William Durandus and a New Approach to the History of Ecclesiology" by Stephen Mark Holmes. Many of these sources were not available at the time. He is not notable as a doctor or priest, but I am asking to consider letting me rewrite his page as he is notable as a member/propogandist of the Traditionalist School and in SSPX (other members of these groups have wiki pages).--] (]) 02:51, 26 October 2021 (UTC) | |||
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complaint from admins
Hello Mark. I have a question. how can i complaint from wikipedia`s admins? iranian admins deleted a page that was constructed 6 years ago. They do not do their tasks properly and insult me.They do not know the rules of wikipedia and act in a taste. What should i do? they deleted an old page belong to a great musician.Arassaeedian (talk) 16:07, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
Formula for differential cross section
Hey Mark, you gave a formula for differential cross section in particle physics on 17:56, 4 March 2017 in the page "Cross section (physics)" in the section "Classical scattering" which has since moved into the section "Differential cross section" as of today. I am curious how this happened, it seems wrong. :
The starting equations are and .
and 
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If is required, . So, . Now the correct equation should be :, without any integration and with the minus sign. Do correct me if and where I went wrong. — Preceding unsigned comment added by MycrofD (talk • contribs) 11:09, 2 November 2017 (UTC)
is required, 
. So, 
. Now the correct equation should be :
, without any integration and with the minus sign. Do correct me if and where I went wrong. — Preceding Deletion "Sambhav Ratnakar"
Hey Mark, you deleted a page named, Sambhav Ratnakar a while ago. Please consider revisiting since the deletion took place a while ago and notability of the person has since increased. Here's him on The Huffington Post, amongst many other sources. 188.135.12.230 (talk) 09:48, 29 November 2016 (UTC)
- Well, simply writing a blog on the Huffington Post isn't quite enough for an article. Has he received significant coverage from media sources? See WP:BIO for our guidelines on the issue. Thanks, Mark Arsten (talk) 14:27, 29 November 2016 (UTC)
Hey Mark, thank you for your prompt reply. From what I can find, he has written a book, The Covert Perspective (recognised by Google), writes for numerous newspapers and magazines, including DailyO, YouthKiAwaaz, NewsLaundry and his articles have recieved significant notability, being acknowledged by a prime ministerial candidate, current Chief Minister of Delhi and numerous other celebrities, including Vishal Dadlani. His articles on social media propoganda intitiated by political parties are widely appreciated and commenced a retaliation against unethical means of promotion employed by polticial parties in India. His book has been reviewed by leading newspapers. He has been dubbed as one of the youngest published authors in india. He has also founded a social network which is "aimed at connecting writers with readers" and contains some of India's most respected national bestsellers.. I understand that notability is isolated to south-east asia, specifically India and so some sources/ news coverage might be in an Indian language which might be a reason why notability was not recognised.
82.178.183.145 (talk) 16:33, 29 November 2016 (UTC)
- Hi again, sorry for the late response. I guess the best thing you could do would be to pull together a few of the best sources about him. Try to find ones from the most reputable papers. Basically, what matters here is having a lot of coverage of him in mainstream sources. Books reviews can also help. Mark Arsten (talk) 02:54, 7 December 2016 (UTC)
Thank you for your reply, Mark. The page is protected from creation and can be made by administrators only. Request if you can alter that so I can collate some reliable sources and proceed. Thanks.
85.154.201.233 (talk) 16:33, 7 December 2016 (UTC)
- Ok, the best thing to do might be to create Draft:Sambhav Ratnakar. Or create a page in your userspace (if you have an account). That way we can see a draft of the article before it goes "live". Mark Arsten (talk) 01:43, 8 December 2016 (UTC)
Deletion "Jennifer Leonhardt"
Hello Mark, In December 2015 you deleted the above article, citing dead links and that the topic didn't pass WP:GNG and WP:MUSICBIO criteria. There are multiple links that were not included in the review and one of the reviewers used an incorrect spelling of the subject's name in their research in News, Newspapers etc. A brief search revealed that Jennifer Leonhardt is/was included in an independent label list also here on Misplaced Pages for Waterbug Records, as well as their website, the Category:Waldorf school alumni page (now removed since her page was deleted), a listing on AllMusic.com , the reference site for musicians, including a review of her music by their chief music editor, inclusion on Pandora’s Music Genome Project, a SingOut! Magazine review, numerous folk and roots music radio charts, Paste Magazine’s Recommended artists, the WIKI Notable Waldorf Alumni page, the Waldorf School of Baltimore's Notable Waldorf Alumni page on their website, among others, all demonstrate that her notoriety is established and is based on generally available music across all sources (Spotify, iTunes, etc). and so I believe a page describing Jennifer should be undeleted and updated. If you or any other administrators require any further info or sources on her career to help update her page once reinstated, please contact me, I am happy to help. Thank you Wiikstaat (talk) 21:59, 3 July 2016 (UTC)
Deletion "Jon Barnes"
Hi Mark, In December 2015, you deleted the above article, citing that Jon Barnes was only previously active in national amateur motor racing. However Jon is racing currently - In 2015 and this year, 2016, Jon is racing as a 'Pro' driver in the British GT Championship in a GT3 Aston Martin. As well as having a very successful and relevant early career, Jon is also currently recognised as the sole works driver for Caterham Cars LTD and tests and develops all of their new road and racing cars. A quick search of Misplaced Pages shows just how many other pages contain his name/race results and thus I believe a page describing Jon should be undeleted and updated. If you or any other administrators require any information/sources on his career to help update his page once reinstated, please contact me and I will attempt to help out. Best regards Jmbcar33 (talk) 19:07, 24 May 2016 (UTC)
- Sorry for the late response. I'm not too familiar with the notability standards for this subject. The best thing to do would probably be to open a request for undeletion at WP:DRV. Thanks, Mark Arsten (talk) 13:32, 4 June 2016 (UTC)
Warning
Really, you only protected Donald Trump's talkpage only till Friday? Thats a very short wait for us to continue destroying his talkpage (like how hes destroying humanity) 137.122.64.12 (talk) 00:49, 16 December 2015 (UTC)
- I don't like to protect talk pages for a long time usually, but I suppose I could be convinced to do so in this case. Mark Arsten (talk) 00:54, 16 December 2015 (UTC)
Bikeheight.com
Hey Mark, Pl explain me the reason for deletion of bikeheight.com. Very first bikeheight.com is a complete business portal having more than 20 international bike brands with more than 500 motorcycle and bulk data of dealers, price etc. Its media reference was there which includes AutoCar Professional (Haymarket Group, a famous, British automobile magazine ) report, its promoter Nitin Vats is a celebrity and ex-researcher of Microsoft research, he has been interview by CNN and all big media in the world. We gave proper media references, we linked word to Misplaced Pages internal and external links, it was in proper shape. Pl share us the valid reasons for its deletion.
- Can you point out to me to some detailed media attention that Bikeheight.com specifically has received? Mark Arsten (talk) 14:14, 6 December 2015 (UTC)
This is the coverage of Deccan Herald, a reputed newspaper of India — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nikkik13 (talk • contribs) 18:58, 7 December 2015 (UTC)
- That's not a bad source, but we really need more than one article to have a page about it here. Mark Arsten (talk) 02:57, 8 December 2015 (UTC)
Category:Rhubarb
Hello,
I recreated a category you had speedy deleted for being empty (WP:C1). I was able to populate it pretty well but, if you have any concerns, just tag me on my talk page. RevelationDirect (talk) 10:08, 10 September 2015 (UTC)
- No problem, looks good. Mark Arsten (talk) 12:47, 10 September 2015 (UTC)
How to insert a photo/file
Hi Mark, I have tried to insert files from my laptop but am definitely missing something- even after reading from the Help tips. Can you help? Many thanks and sorry to bother youMelroross (talk) 11:36, 18 September 2015 (UTC)
- It has been a while since I did this. Are you using the file upload wizard? Mark Arsten (talk) 16:37, 18 September 2015 (UTC)
Editing a Portal
Hi Mark, I just wanted to edit info in wiki portal "Military of India" which has some incorrect info. The portal is semi protected and can be edited by only auto confirmed users as updated by you. I have corrected the same in Wiki article/page by citing authentic sources & duly following protocol. I would appreciate if you help/direct me how to edit the portal or what has to be done to correct it. Thanks Hvvk89 (talk) 17:21, 19 September 2015 (UTC)
- If you post the changes you want to make on the Portal's talk page I (or anyone else who sees it) can copy them over for you. Mark Arsten (talk) 17:43, 19 September 2015 (UTC)
3RR ?
Mark, can you or one of your stalkers look at this series of reverts by IHTS? I'm rather busy at the moment: . Montanabw 05:29, 20 September 2015 (UTC)
- Sorry about how things turned out with that RFA, this place can be terrible sometimes. Mark Arsten (talk) 17:45, 25 September 2015 (UTC)
- Nuked, but I'm still standing. Now to get the trolls to simmer down, sigh.... Montanabw 23:36, 26 September 2015 (UTC)
Budapest bid for the 2024 Summer Olympics
I would like the subject page Budapest bid for the 2024 Summer Olympics to be undeleted since the five candidates cities have now been announced. Since you deleted this page in the first place, can you do please do this or whom should I contact ? Hektor (talk) 11:28, 22 September 2015 (UTC)
- @Hektor: Sorry for the delay, I've restored it. Might need a bit of cleanup now though. Mark Arsten (talk) 17:43, 25 September 2015 (UTC)
Deletion "Hikmet Geckil"
Dear Mark, I will be happy for the reconsideration of inclusion of my name, Hikmet Geckil, in Misplaced Pages. Best wishes, Hikmet https://www.inonu.edu.tr/en/cms/hikmet.geckil Hgeckil (talk) 11:20, 30 September 2015 (UTC)
- Hi Hikmet, it may be possible to restore the page if you can offer evidence that the nominator's rationale is no longer valid. See Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Hikmet Geckil for details. Feel free to ask if you have any questions about our notability policy. Mark Arsten (talk) 17:40, 1 October 2015 (UTC)
This Friday: Women in Architecture edit-a-thon @ Cambridge, MA
You are invited to join the Women in Architecture edit-a-thon @ Cambridge, MA on October 16! (drop-in any time, 6-9pm)--Pharos (talk) 18:29, 14 October 2015 (UTC)
Suspected sock
You worked on some sock puppet investigations for User:2sc945. I am quite confident that IP 120.16.88.202 is this user evading the block. If you look at article Jerome Randle, his editing choices are exactly the same as the sock master and sock Energy110. Rikster2 (talk) 02:11, 21 October 2015 (UTC)
- Looks like someone beat me to it! Mark Arsten (talk) 04:18, 22 October 2015 (UTC)
Deletion of Mitzura Arghezi
I'm thinking of writing an article on Mitzura Arghezi and I saw you deleted this article in the past can I have a reason why and/or a cache so I don't recreate the reason it was deleted the first time. Zppix (talk) 14:44, 27 October 2015 (UTC)
- It was deleted because it didn't have any sources cited in the article. The only text was "Mitzura Arghezi (born 10 December 1924 in Bucharest) is a Romanian actress, politician and daughter of poet Tudor Arghezi." You're free to recreate it if you can add some sources and hopefully some more details. Let me know if you have any issues. Mark Arsten (talk) 23:31, 27 October 2015 (UTC)
@Mark Arsten thanks man ill look into it a bit. If another editor sees this and wants to recreate this page let me know or I may. Zppix (talk) 17:45, 30 October 2015 (UTC)
Halloween cheer!
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Thanks for all of your contributions to improve Misplaced Pages, and have a happy and enjoyable Halloween!
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Misplaced Pages:Today's featured article/November 14, 2015
Mark, a summary of a Featured Article you nominated at WP:FAC will appear on the Main Page soon. It mostly follows the lead section; how does it look? - Dank (push to talk) 15:22, 31 October 2015 (UTC)
- Nice one Dank, and thank you Mark. There is a ref broken which will of course need fixing before the big day; I'd do it myself, but coding was really never my strong point. Cassianto 17:45, 31 October 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks guys, it had been a long time since I looked at the article, really brought back some memories. I'm not sure about that reference error myself, @Diannaa: do you know what's causing the issue? Mark Arsten (talk) 23:52, 31 October 2015 (UTC)
- Yes I do; I have been working on fixing these errors, so I got it. -- Diannaa (talk) 03:47, 1 November 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks Diannaa, you sure have an eye for details! Mark Arsten (talk) 00:15, 2 November 2015 (UTC)
- Yes I do; I have been working on fixing these errors, so I got it. -- Diannaa (talk) 03:47, 1 November 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks guys, it had been a long time since I looked at the article, really brought back some memories. I'm not sure about that reference error myself, @Diannaa: do you know what's causing the issue? Mark Arsten (talk) 23:52, 31 October 2015 (UTC)
Precious again, your Elias Abraham Rosenberg, who "went from a humble peddler to royal adviser in a very short time, using only his charming personality and ability to predict the future"
--Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:33, 14 November 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks Gerda. So far, not much trouble with vandals at all. Mark Arsten (talk) 17:24, 14 November 2015 (UTC)
Diwali
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- Thanks, you too. Mark Arsten (talk) 17:23, 14 November 2015 (UTC)
A question about your procedure
I noticed you've revdeleted a post on Montanabw's talk in the last few minutes. I have zero doubt you had excellent reasons for doing so. Is there a specific reason why you've chosen not to leave some kind of warning or notice on the ip contributor's talk? When I revert the normal range of vandal contributions, I always leave a UW so that the next vandal fighter who comes along can see the track record. Is this some sort of "don't feed the trolls" situation? I'm just curious. If for reasons of propriety you'd rather not reply here, I'd welcome your email. Thanks BusterD (talk) 16:32, 12 November 2015 (UTC)
- I was under the impression this was an LTA with a number of IPs so I didn't bother with the usual steps. Maybe I should have though? Open to advice as always. Mark Arsten (talk) 16:45, 12 November 2015 (UTC)
- As an admin, you do more of this than I do, so I was just asking. One of the reasons I add user warnings automatically is that it puts the ip address on my radar via watchlist. Periodically I delete such ips from the watchlist, but I find that in the short term, watchlisting the talkpage is a handy practice, a form of mapping. (As it turns out, the only reason I witnessed the action was because M's talkpage is on my watchlist--as is yours.) Thanks for logical answer. BusterD (talk) 18:20, 12 November 2015 (UTC)
- Not a bad point there. I haven't been doing too much on Misplaced Pages, so I have to make sure I still remember how to do admin stuff right. Mark Arsten (talk) 03:09, 14 November 2015 (UTC)
- As an admin, you do more of this than I do, so I was just asking. One of the reasons I add user warnings automatically is that it puts the ip address on my radar via watchlist. Periodically I delete such ips from the watchlist, but I find that in the short term, watchlisting the talkpage is a handy practice, a form of mapping. (As it turns out, the only reason I witnessed the action was because M's talkpage is on my watchlist--as is yours.) Thanks for logical answer. BusterD (talk) 18:20, 12 November 2015 (UTC)
UFC 193
This article has been suffering from numerous disputes. I don't see the heat cooling down soon. Can you extend protection? --George Ho (talk) 19:15, 21 November 2015 (UTC)
- Hi George. There is a lot of reverting going on with registered users, not sure how much trouble IPs will add to it though. Cotto vs. Canelo might keep them occupied tonight, at least. Mark Arsten (talk) 00:06, 22 November 2015 (UTC)
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- I heard you the first time :) Mark Arsten (talk) 18:25, 24 November 2015 (UTC)
Nice to see you back
Welcome back Mark. Thank you also for the help with the socks. Take care. Dr. K. 16:06, 27 November 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks, I guess all the hubbub about the Arbcom elections drew me back in :) Mark Arsten (talk) 16:19, 27 November 2015 (UTC)
- In that case we should hold these elections more often. :) Dr. K. 17:49, 27 November 2015 (UTC)
Misplaced Pages:Administrator intervention against vandalism
You are invited to join the discussion at Misplaced Pages:Administrator intervention against vandalism. Some baddies over there could use some blocking Thanks. Dat GuyWiki (talk) 13:45, 28 November 2015 (UTC)
William T. Anderson Research
I look forward to your comments about the family group of William T. Anderson. I understand that Misplaced Pages sources are limited to published research. Information from original research of primary sources is discouraged. The 1860 census of Breckenridge County, Kansas, shows an additional child, Charles, of William C. Anderson and Martha Jane Thomasson. The 1850 census of Randolph County, Missouri shows W. and Mahala Thomason living in the household of William Anderson. The 1840 census of Liberty Township, Marion County, Missouri, shows that William C. Anderson and William Thomason were heads of household. It seems reasonable to assume that the maternal grandparents of William T. Anderson were William Thomasson and Mahala Baker. Bill Anderson’s birth year of 1840 is widely accepted, and is found in published information and on memorials and monuments. Two contemporary records exist that indicate his birth year was before 1840. The 1850 census of Marion County, Missouri, shows that William Anderson was 11. The 1860 census of Breckenridge County, Kansas, shows that William T. Anderson was 21. 1850 and 1860 census instructions to enumerators: Under heading 4, entitled “Age,” insert in figures what was the specific age of each person at his or her last birthday previous to the 1st of June. (Commencement of the census was to begin June 1st.) William T. Anderson was born after June 1st, 1838, and before June 1st, 1839, IF the respondent provided the correct age of William T. Anderson to the enumerator, and IF the enumerator accurately recorded the information. Perhaps a more accurate source of the birth year of William T. Anderson exists. Published accounts of the life of William T. Anderson state that he married Bush Smith in Grayson County, Texas. That is confirmed by a Grayson County marriage liecense issued to Lieut. William T. Anderson and MIss Bush Smith on 2 March 1864. Published accounts of the life of William T. Anderson state that his brother, Jim, brought his surviving sisters, Mollie and Mattie, to Grayson County after the death of William T. Anderson. That is confirmed by Grayson County marriage licenses for A. V. Doak and Mollie E. Anderson; E. G. Douglass and Mattie G. Anderson; and James Anderson and Mary Erwin, and several census records. Published accounts of the life of William T. Anderson state that Jim Anderson married his brother's widow. That is possible. There is a Grayson County marriage record for J. M. Anderson and Malinda Anderson, but there is insufficient information to identify them as James Monroe Anderson and Bush Smith Anderson. There is very convincing evidence that Mary Erwin was not William T. Anderson's widow. Published accounts of the life of William T. Anderson state that he built a house for Bush Smith in Sherman. No tax or property records have been found to confirm that claim. Thanks, BBAhistorian (talk) 16:57, 28 November 2015 (UTC)BBAhistorian 27 November 2015
- Hi again, thanks for all the details. I'm a little unclear though about which changes you would like to be made on this page. Could you suggest some specific edits? Thanks, Mark Arsten (talk) 04:58, 29 November 2015 (UTC)
Mark, thanks for the response. Possible edits. His siblings were Jim, Ellis, Mary Ellen, Josephine and Janie. Suggested revision: His siblings were Ellis, James Monroe “Jim”, Mary Ellen “Mollie”, Susan Josephine, Martha Jane “Mattie”, and Charles. (Justification: 1860 census record and Breckenridge County probate record of William C. Anderson’s estate)
Anderson married Bush Smith, a woman from Sherman, Texas. Suggested revision: Anderson married Miss Bush Smith of Sherman, Texas, 3 October 1864. (Justification: Copy of marriage license issued to Lieut William T. Anderson and Miss Bush Smith)
“William T. Anderson was born in 1840” Suggested revision: William T. Anderson was born about 1839. (Justification: 1850 and 1860 census records do not support the 1840 birth year)
By 1860, William T. Anderson was a joint owner of a 320-acre (1.3 km2) property that was worth $500 and his family had a net worth of around $1,000. QUESTION: Adjacent entries on the 1860 agricultural census of Breckenridge County, Kansas, show Wm. C. Anderson as the owner of 160 acres, and Wm. T. Anderson as the owner of 160 acres. Each acreage was valued at $500. Does this constitute joint ownership? 2602:301:774E:F040:7D88:78C5:390:4F08 (talk) 16:45, 29 November 2015 (UTC)BBAhistorian 29 Nov 2015
- Oh thanks, that is helpful. I see what you mean now. Mark Arsten (talk) 15:35, 30 November 2015 (UTC)
- I'm just thinking about how to add this to the article. Do you know the preferred format for citing census records and so on? I've never done it. Of course, if we could find sources that mention them it would be much simpler. Mark Arsten (talk) 20:39, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
SPI clerk list
Hi Mark, it's great to see you contributing again. Would you like to be moved back to active on the SPI clerk list? If so, you can do it yourself, or I can do it for you, whichever you prefer.--Bbb23 (talk) 14:19, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks, it feels good to help out again. Sure, I think I will be around enough to be "active" again. I'll move myself over. Mark Arsten (talk) 20:40, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
- Hooray! throws confetti--Jezebel's Ponyo 20:52, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
- :) Mark Arsten (talk) 21:09, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
- Another hooray!
— MusikAnimal 18:44, 4 December 2015 (UTC)
- Another hooray!
- :) Mark Arsten (talk) 21:09, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
- Hooray! throws confetti--Jezebel's Ponyo 20:52, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
A cookie for you!
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Thanks for the block. Any chance you could please rev'del the material inserted by the IP on Muhammad? Thanks! GAB 03:03, 4 December 2015 (UTC) |
- No problem, glad to help. Mark Arsten (talk) 03:05, 4 December 2015 (UTC)
Good to see you back!
It's always nice when one of the more proactive Admins returns. Welcome back! JMHamo (talk) 15:52, 5 December 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks, glad to be back. Mark Arsten (talk) 14:02, 6 December 2015 (UTC)
Category:Fomboni FC players
Can I please ask why Category:Fomboni FC players was deleted as empty (and @Liz: even tagged in the first place) as C1 when it was not empty? GiantSnowman 08:10, 6 December 2015 (UTC)
- I would have only tagged the category if it appeared on Misplaced Pages:Database reports/Empty categories and I found it empty. Then it sat in Category:Empty categories awaiting deletion for four days before being deleted. I regularly check this category and remove categories that are no longer empty so I don't know why I missed seeing that this category had one assigned article. I don't know how this one category slipped past us both if was not indeed empty. Liz 08:39, 6 December 2015 (UTC)
- Hmm, that is odd, not sure what the issue was. Mark Arsten (talk) 14:06, 6 December 2015 (UTC)
User:Johannesgotha
Hello, you recently blocked Johannesgotha for three days for edit warring at List of Star Wars Rebels episodes, the second such block he received within the week. Well, as soon as the block expired, the user went right back to making the same edits. I have reverted him, and request a re-block, for clearly he intends to continue disrupting the page. oknazevad (talk) 22:15, 6 December 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks for the tip, I blocked him indef. Mark Arsten (talk) 02:06, 7 December 2015 (UTC)
A cookie for you!
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- Thanks, there sure is a lot of it to do! Mark Arsten (talk) 01:16, 10 December 2015 (UTC)
User: Mark Arsten Just recovered my wiki account from 2013 (e.g., community integration, family support) after being blocked by Beetlebrox at Long Term Services and Supports (LTSS) and the Special Population groups and US Direct Support Workforce (Here, this time; updates at mental health workforce and dual inclusion educators). I was delighted that Urie Brofenbrenner (Urie Brofennbrenner Translational Center at Cornell Plantations), Judith E. Heumann and Ed Roberts (World Institute on Disability, and the former, Clinton, Bush and Obama Administrations), and Carl Rogers (I was with his Nat Raskin at Northwestern University, also American Association of Psychotherapists) were prominently featured. I was over at the American Society for Public Administration, and am on through March as Health and Human Services Administration (HHSA) Executive. Today, I was blocked at Andrew Cuomo, Governor, who is in my book, Public Administration and Disability: Community Services Administration in the US (Racino, 2014); the site needed the minimum wage legislation, supported housing, and the environment, among others. ````JulieAnnRacino````2018 User:JulieAnnRacino —Preceding undated comment added 14:23, 7 January 2018 (UTC)
Orphaned image that was deleted
I have rewritten Friends of the Earth Scotland. The article had previously been turned into a redirect page, making an orphan of the non-free image that had been used on the previous version of the page: File:Line Colour weblogo.jpg. The image was deleted shortly after. I was wondering if it was possible to restore the deleted image. Can you help? Drchriswilliams (talk) 14:58, 13 December 2015 (UTC)
- Alright, I've brought it back and added it to the article. Let me know if you need anything else. Mark Arsten (talk) 15:45, 13 December 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks for sorting this out. Drchriswilliams (talk) 17:26, 13 December 2015 (UTC)
Thanks
Thanks very much for cleaning up my Open wirld video game Open world video game mistake. —DangerousJXD (talk) 03:03, 19 December 2015 (UTC)
- No problem, glad to help. We had one guy recently who created a ton of totally implausible redirects on purpose, so I was happy to see that's not what was happening here :) Mark Arsten (talk) 04:14, 19 December 2015 (UTC)
Edit warring MRT lines
Hello Marks Arsten, there seems to be going on some edit warring right now for a while already at two Articles by the two same people: one IP and a registered user, I have no knowledge on the subject so I cannot say much and username perhaps does not know he can report at a noticeboard. The 2 Articles are Downtown MRT Line, Circle MRT Line, just check their history. Since I am not involved I do not think I should be the one to report to noticeboard but at least you might be able to help being an admin :-) Alternatively maybe a page protection might help one cool off (edits do include rude language like this one from IP . Thanks for looking. Poepkop (talk) 15:02, 21 December 2015 (UTC)
- Hmm, it looks like they both have technically broken WP:3RR on Downtown MRT Line so they could be blocked at admin discretion. The best thing to do at this point would probably be to drop them each a talk page note telling them that they've crossed the line and hope that causes them to back off on the edit warring for today. Obvious vandalism is an exception to 3RR of course, but I don't think changing "Change to
- Okay, thanks. Can any user do so (leave them a note on their Talkpage for this purpose), or only admins? I have bad memories trying to calm down other people's arguments. Oh well. Cheerio Poepkop (talk) 15:48, 21 December 2015 (UTC)
- Yes, any user is free to leave talkpage warnings about edit warring and so on. Twinkle has a warning function that's helpful, {{uw-3rr}} is usually what I use. With established users it's often better to write out a note than using a template though. Mark Arsten (talk) 16:15, 21 December 2015 (UTC)
- Hello, I'm one of the users that is engaged in the edit war. I have talked with the IP Address user to no reply. I have contacted the other registered user which I've resolved in a civilized manner. I'm sorry if you think that my reverts has caused this confusion. My revert from "Change to
- Yeah, your changes may be correct, but please be careful of the 3RR bright line. Merely reverting incorrect changes is not an exception, they have to be apparent as deliberate attempts to damage to project. It is frustrating dealing with someone won't communicate, so you might want to post on a relevant wikiproject talk page to try to get more input or ask people who have edited that article or similar articles to weigh in. (I suspect one user is using both an IP and an account to revert here, so I'll treat them as the same individual for revert purposes.) Mark Arsten (talk) 16:53, 21 December 2015 (UTC)
- Okay, thanks. Can any user do so (leave them a note on their Talkpage for this purpose), or only admins? I have bad memories trying to calm down other people's arguments. Oh well. Cheerio Poepkop (talk) 15:48, 21 December 2015 (UTC)
SPI of Nmzbnmzbnmz
Hi, I noticed that you closed the SPI of Nmzbnmzbnmz. I didn't notice that the SPI was closed because I was typing a comment which took me 4 minutes long while you were blocking the sockpuppet. I think the SPI requires a checkuser because one more account is missing. Please see the investigation for explanation. Thanks. Ayub407 18:52, 21 December 2015 (UTC)
- Good catch, looking at the deleted revisions now I see I missed a couple socks. Will update the SPI. Thanks, Mark Arsten (talk) 18:58, 21 December 2015 (UTC)
Contact me!
Hi Mark!
I'm a reporter working on a story about the Misplaced Pages page for Han Solo. I'd love to tell you more over email. Mind dropping me a line?
daniel.duray@gmail.com
Thanks and happy holidays!
Dan — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2604:2000:814C:1A00:5864:B0BE:2DE2:28C4 (talk) 23:50, 21 December 2015 (UTC)
- Sure, I'd be happy to. Just sent you an e-mail. Mark Arsten (talk) 00:04, 22 December 2015 (UTC)
SPI mismatch
You archived Misplaced Pages:Sockpuppet investigations/Ethan.A.Gray of Craiglea/Archive but the closing admin comment mentioned that the socks are listed at Category:Suspected Misplaced Pages sockpuppets of Ethanagray which doesn't match. I think the easiest fix is renaming the SPI. Regards, Bazj (talk) 09:48, 22 December 2015 (UTC)
- Alright, I must have mixed that, I'll move it over to the right title. Thanks for pointing that out. Mark Arsten (talk) 23:57, 22 December 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks for fixing. Bazj (talk) 10:31, 24 December 2015 (UTC)
sockpuppet
I believe I will not used puppet of me Please dont block me I will use 1 user. (Parintar (talk) 22:07, 22 December 2015 (UTC)).
- No worries, just stick to one account from now on and you'll be fine. If you do have to use two accounts for some reason make sure to follow this guideline. Thanks, Mark Arsten (talk) 00:04, 23 December 2015 (UTC)
- I want to Open that by final decision please Now Wiki Thai want to open them. How do you do? (Parintar (talk) 10:13, 23 December 2015 (UTC)).
- Sorry, but I never do anything on meta. Good luck with that project though. Mark Arsten (talk) 16:59, 24 December 2015 (UTC)
- Merry Chirstmas (Parintar (talk) 09:43, 25 December 2015 (UTC)).
Merry Christmas, Mark
And may your holidays be merry and bright . . . . Cheers. Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 22:39, 22 December 2015 (UTC)
- Merry Christmas to you to! Mark Arsten (talk) 00:05, 23 December 2015 (UTC)
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- Season's greetings to you too Diannaa! Mark Arsten (talk) 14:56, 24 December 2015 (UTC)
Han Solo
Can you add pending changes? The article has been vandalized before semi-protection. --George Ho (talk) 06:11, 23 December 2015 (UTC)
Merry stuff.
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- Thanks, Merry Christmas to you too. Mark Arsten (talk) 14:46, 24 December 2015 (UTC)
FYI
Could you look at Misplaced Pages:Sockpuppet investigations/UnbiasedVictory... editor back making exact same edits. -- Moxy (talk) 18:02, 24 December 2015 (UTC)
- Looks like someone beat me to it! Mark Arsten (talk) 02:04, 25 December 2015 (UTC)
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- Thanks, same to you! Mark Arsten (talk) 02:04, 25 December 2015 (UTC)
Season's Greetings
To You and Yours!
FWiW Bzuk (talk) 22:05, 24 December 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks, same to you! Mark Arsten (talk) 02:04, 25 December 2015 (UTC)
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- May your 2016 be full of joy and special times. MarnetteD|Talk 02:14, 25 December 2015 (UTC)
- Thank you for the block of the editor using my username and for the rev/del of the edit summaries. Since your present got here several hours (my time) before Santa you are welcome to the cookies and milk :-) MarnetteD|Talk 02:14, 25 December 2015 (UTC)
- You're welcome, glad to help :) Mark Arsten (talk) 02:15, 25 December 2015 (UTC)
- Hi again. It looks like talk page access may need removal. If you're off celebrating Xmas eve or day there is no hurry at all. MarnetteD|Talk 03:55, 25 December 2015 (UTC)
- You're welcome, glad to help :) Mark Arsten (talk) 02:15, 25 December 2015 (UTC)
- Thank you for the block of the editor using my username and for the rev/del of the edit summaries. Since your present got here several hours (my time) before Santa you are welcome to the cookies and milk :-) MarnetteD|Talk 02:14, 25 December 2015 (UTC)
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Harassment
Hi Mark. Recently you blocked the user Qtwe. Can you delete the page history who Qtwe edited in White Latin Americans? He attacks me in the edit summary and added an ip. Also he insulted me in my user talk in many times (in spanish) Thanks. --Bleckter (talk) 21:31, 28 December 2015 (UTC)
- Sure, I revision deleted an edit summary on the article and one on your talk page. Let me know if he turns up again... Mark Arsten (talk) 22:08, 28 December 2015 (UTC)
Vandalism Thanks
Hi Mark Arsten, thank you so much for your efforts in preventing vandalism. I see you protected the page of the human rights activist, Majid Rafizadeh. Do you think you can address the templates in the page so people stop vandalizing the page? Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:30A:2E8C:D950:70B1:2C7C:4FD8:3960 (talk) 02:18, 29 December 2015 (UTC)
- I probably won't get involved much more with it than I have been, Melcous might be able to help though. Mark Arsten (talk) 21:50, 29 December 2015 (UTC)
Happy New Year Mark Arsten!
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Mark Arsten,
Have a prosperous, productive and enjoyable New Year, and thanks for your contributions to Misplaced Pages. Poepkop (talk) 13:51, 31 December 2015 (UTC)
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- I'll second that. Happy new year and happy editing @Mark Arsten:! BlAcKhAt9(9 (talk) 17:00, 31 December 2015 (UTC)
Happy New Year, Mark Arsten!
Mark Arsten,
Have a prosperous, productive and enjoyable New Year, and thanks for your contributions to Misplaced Pages. Liz 23:42, 31 December 2015 (UTC)
- Send New Year cheer by adding {{subst:Happy New Year fireworks}} to user talk pages.
Happy New Year, Mark Arsten!
Mark Arsten,
Have a prosperous, productive and enjoyable New Year, and thanks for your contributions to Misplaced Pages. —k6ka 🍁 (Talk · Contributions) 17:29, 1 January 2016 (UTC)
- Spread the WikiLove; use {{subst:Happy New Year 2016}} to send this message
- By the way, did you know that this edit was the last edit made in 2015, and this is the first edit of 2016? (Times in UTC, of course). —k6ka 🍁 (Talk · Contributions) 17:29, 1 January 2016 (UTC)
Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Design42Day
Hello, I was convinced to have commented to the discussion but eventually I missed to push the botton "save page". I just found the unsaved page (one of the many open pages in my Firefox), but when I tried to save the page I noted in the meanwhile the discussion was closed. I had voted to keep and I would apprecciate my comment was added to the discussion, then you or others would be welcome to re-asses the consensus and to re-close the discussion (I would not complain if the delete close will be confirmed). For the record, this was the text of my comment: Keep, if I am not missing something, in addition to the already mentioned Vogue, the article contains multiple reliable sources, such as two articles from Corriere della Sera ( ) and an article from TgCom24 (). The fact they are in Italian does not make them unreliable (eg., Corriere della Sera is the major and most authoritative newspaper in Italy). Thanks in advance. Cavarrone 07:42, 3 January 2016 (UTC)
- Sure, I'll undelete and relist it. Mark Arsten (talk) 01:52, 4 January 2016 (UTC)
Deletion of an orphaned file
Hi Mark, you recently deleted the file File:Jisedai No Tou logo.jpg. I had actually reinserted it back into the article about 10 minutes before you deleted it. I think it serves a purpose in there as the original logo of the political party. Is it possible to have the file restored? Thanks, AtHomeIn神戸 (talk) 00:35, 6 January 2016 (UTC)
- Alright, it's back. Mark Arsten (talk) 00:37, 6 January 2016 (UTC)
- Thank you. AtHomeIn神戸 (talk) 00:40, 6 January 2016 (UTC)
Misplaced Pages:Sockpuppet investigations/Jimarey
Five or six years later, Jimarey is return as an IP 82.53.179.230 to focus on Chris Brown or others. 123.136.111.80 115.164.87.223 (talk) 04:26, 6 January 2016 (UTC)
- Looks like someone already blocked the IP. Mark Arsten (talk) 22:13, 6 January 2016 (UTC)
Protected edit request on 7 January 2016
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I manage Kate Upton and she has requested to change her picture on her WIki page to something other then Game Of War. Please help me edit the image? Contact me at Todd@KateUpton.com if you have any questions
This would really help me!
Thank you!!
Toddtouron (talk) 20:31, 7 January 2016 (UTC)
- You should discuss this at Talk:Kate Upton. I will copy this message there. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 20:38, 7 January 2016 (UTC)
- Hi Toddtouron, sorry about how confusing our image policies are. Is there a specific image or type of image you're thinking of for a replacement? Mark Arsten (talk) 22:47, 7 January 2016 (UTC)
@ Mark Arsten Thanks for the quick reply, not sure how this works. Any picture that is not to revealing and is not associated with "Game of War" of Kate will suffice. Perhaps one that looks more professional and clearly captures her face.
- Toddtouron, Alright, I've swapped it out for the picture of her that had been at the top of the article until last Spring. I think it's better than the Game of War once at least. We don't have too many available pictures that meet our freely licensed criteria, the ones we do have are here: commons:Category:Kate Upton. If a photographer uploads a picture of her under the free licence in the future we could add that as well, but I understand that's probably not a priority for most photographers. Let me know if there's anything else I can help with. Mark Arsten (talk) 02:54, 8 January 2016 (UTC)
Request for copy of deleted article
Hi Mark,
Would it be possible for you to userfy a copy of the recently deleted Robin Haley article so I can see about improving it? Thank you. Hmlarson (talk) 21:04, 7 January 2016 (UTC)
- Sure, I think that would be alright. It's now at User:Hmlarson/Robin Haley. Mark Arsten (talk) 22:47, 7 January 2016 (UTC)
- Thanks - appreciate it. Hmlarson (talk) 17:19, 8 January 2016 (UTC)
Providence Park
I would like to retrieve the file history from File:Providence Park logo.jpg for reference on File:ProvidencePark-logo.svg. MB298 (talk) 02:27, 9 January 2016 (UTC)
- Also, please notify me when this message has been answered. MB298 (talk) 02:28, 9 January 2016 (UTC)
- @MB298: Sorry, I'm not sure I understand what you want me to do here. Mark Arsten (talk) 02:35, 9 January 2016 (UTC)
- Retrieve the table that displays the history of the uploads. For example, on File:Sunset-apollos.png, there was a previous "Sunset-apollos.gif" that was replaced with a png version. It lists the uploads of the gif file above the file history of the current version. MB298 (talk) 04:28, 9 January 2016 (UTC)
- Ok, I think I understand now, I've added the information. Mark Arsten (talk) 19:43, 12 January 2016 (UTC)
- Retrieve the table that displays the history of the uploads. For example, on File:Sunset-apollos.png, there was a previous "Sunset-apollos.gif" that was replaced with a png version. It lists the uploads of the gif file above the file history of the current version. MB298 (talk) 04:28, 9 January 2016 (UTC)
- @MB298: Sorry, I'm not sure I understand what you want me to do here. Mark Arsten (talk) 02:35, 9 January 2016 (UTC)
Betty X Musician BLP
I'd like to request that the article for the musician Betty X be restored. In the discussion it was stated that it was an "ill-sourced" BLP, which simply isn't true. Even a cursory amount of research shows that this person is an established and notable musician that has worked with some pretty well-known people (Al Jourgensen, Martin Atkins, Patty Quatro, etc.). While the article needed some revisions to clean it up and provide sources for some of the comments (which are readily available online), I see no valid reason for the deletion of this article; it does the usefulness of Misplaced Pages a disservice when we remove legitimate content. Thanks for your time. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Enoch22 (talk • contribs) 02:49, 18 January 2016 (UTC)
- The version of the article that was deleted didn't cite any sources, actually. If you can find some good sources feel free to create a WP:DRAFT that includes them and we can look at restoring the article. Let me know if you have any questions. Mark Arsten (talk) 18:11, 21 January 2016 (UTC)
Configuring Pending Changes for Daniel Day-Lewis
Why did you configure pending changes settings for Daniel Day-Lewis, just out of curiosity. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Eurocus47 (talk • contribs) 16:47, 21 January 2016 (UTC)
- I don't recall anything about this article specifically, but generally I would look at the history and see how many instances of vandalism/BLP violations were generally occurring and the volume of edits overall before adding PC. Mark Arsten (talk) 18:14, 21 January 2016 (UTC)
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Andrew Hussie protection
Hi Mark, do you think the pending changes status on Andrew Hussie could now be revoked? The level of vandalism does not now seem excessive, with over a month without edits until one outbreak yesterday: Noyster (talk), 17:47, 5 February 2016 (UTC)
Help with edit war
Hello Mark, could you do something to block the user Vuca1990, He continues to add vital information without any source on IHF World Men's Handball Championship I already told him, but it has now become an edit war, and it seems like he will never stop. He seems to be doing this on other articles as well. He goes on sports articles and credits Serbia as the official inheritor of Yugoslavia's medals, even tho the organizations doesn't agree with him, and therefore he adds no source for it, because it's just his own personal opinion. I hope you ahve the time to do something about this problem, thank you.Csknowitall (talk) 19:56, 5 February 2016 (UTC)
- Well, first things first, you have to make sure you don't edit war yourself (even if his changes are wrong you can't keep reverting). You might want to ask at a relevant Wikiproject to get more participation on the article. Mark Arsten (talk) 21:40, 7 February 2016 (UTC)
Ides of March
Strange. I don't remember doing that. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.44.210.89 (talk) 00:33, 7 February 2016 (UTC)
- No worries in any case. Mark Arsten (talk) 19:06, 7 February 2016 (UTC)
Eyes
I'm sorry, but I don't think my talk page is the best place for continued discussion. Mark Arsten (talk) 21:38, 7 February 2016 (UTC)The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
Just asking some extra eyes on Colonial Spanish Horse. Sorry to bug you, but probably some outside watchers would be helpful. Montanabw|GO THUNDER! 20:16, 7 February 2016 (UTC)
- Yes please. Just be aware of this and this Lynn (SLW) (talk) 20:24, 7 February 2016 (UTC)
- Is there a reason why you are being creepy and stalking another editor's edits LynnWysong? Cassianto 20:40, 7 February 2016 (UTC)
- Because the edits involve me. What is your excuse for creeping Cassianto?
- Is there a reason why you are being creepy and stalking another editor's edits LynnWysong? Cassianto 20:40, 7 February 2016 (UTC)
- The request to Mark had nothing to do with you; you weren't mentioned, insinuated, or pinged. So go and get yourself a life. Cassianto 21:01, 7 February 2016 (UTC)
- Are you for real, Cassianto? Lynn (SLW) (talk) 21:06, 7 February 2016 (UTC)
- I am, yes. Although I suspect you're more mythical. Cassianto 21:20, 7 February 2016 (UTC)
- You're calling me a troll? What is your justification for that uncivil remark? Lynn (SLW) (talk) 21:27, 7 February 2016 (UTC)
- You start arguments, upset people, harass other editors, stalk contributions, and you do all this from behind a keyboard. What would you call it? Cassianto 21:32, 7 February 2016 (UTC)
- You're calling me a troll? What is your justification for that uncivil remark? Lynn (SLW) (talk) 21:27, 7 February 2016 (UTC)
- I am, yes. Although I suspect you're more mythical. Cassianto 21:20, 7 February 2016 (UTC)
- Are you for real, Cassianto? Lynn (SLW) (talk) 21:06, 7 February 2016 (UTC)
- Now you are casting aspersions? Lynn (SLW) (talk) 21:34, 7 February 2016 (UTC)
- I can try to find time to look, but I'll probably have my eyes on some other horses most of the night. Mark Arsten (talk) 20:41, 7 February 2016 (UTC)
- I looked and find this strange: "Banker horses, a well-known Colonial Spanish Horse", - "horses, a horse", but don't know how to fix it. Why do I read a Dr. title? Why are there refs in the lead which should only summarize sourced info from the article body? - Perhaps horses are different from music? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:47, 7 February 2016 (UTC)
- "Why are there refs in the lead which should only summarize sourced info from the article body? - Perhaps horses are different from music?" Been trying to fix that Gerda Arendt. Not having much luck. Lynn (SLW) (talk) 21:03, 7 February 2016 (UTC) Lynn (SLW) (talk) 21:06, 7 February 2016 (UTC)
Luka Modrić
Hi Mark, I've started a requested GOCE copy-edit to Luka Modrić, which you set a stable version of on 18:55, 2 January 2014. The c/e will take me a few days; it might be a good plan to wait until I've finished befor re-reviewing the article and approving the changes. I'll post an edit summary announcing that I've finished my c/e. Cheers, Baffle gab1978 (talk) 23:42, 9 February 2016 (UTC)
- I don't recall ever editing that article, so don't worry about me jumping in now. Mark Arsten (talk) 00:45, 10 February 2016 (UTC)
- No worries; you didn't edit but you set autoreview protection ; your notice still appears in the edit window and I wondered whether you wanted to re-review. Cheers, Baffle gab1978 (talk) 01:20, 10 February 2016 (UTC)
- C/e
Done. Cheers, Baffle gab1978 (talk) 22:54, 15 February 2016 (UTC)
- C/e
- No worries; you didn't edit but you set autoreview protection ; your notice still appears in the edit window and I wondered whether you wanted to re-review. Cheers, Baffle gab1978 (talk) 01:20, 10 February 2016 (UTC)
Ben 10 vandalism
The Ben 10 article has been subject to frequent IP vandalism since I've been watching it. (about October last year) Do you think you could give it semi protection? — Preceding unsigned comment added by JoshBM16 (talk • contribs) 13:54, 12 February 2016 (UTC)
- Well, you might want to post a request at WP:RFPP. It's generally best to get requests logged there. Mark Arsten (talk) 04:02, 16 February 2016 (UTC)
Request to restore deleted page - Betty X
Betty X is an influential female musician, conceptual artist, and songwriter that first made her impact in Seattle during the 1990's. She has been described by Seattle publications as a "Dangerously sexy blend of poisonous and volatile apocalyptic-metal with sarcastic aggro female vocals." Betty X has become one of the most recognized names in conceptual art, post-apocalyptic rock - not just in Seattle, but in Austin and Los Angeles, as well. She continues to be a powerful influence for female singers/songwriters/artists/musicians and participates on many panel discussions and appearances along with Patti Quatro and others, in addition to her live performances and collaborations with such bands as Ministry and Pigface.
Betty X is currently gearing up to release her fifth solo album, which is being co-produced by the legendary Al Jourgensen of Ministry fame, confirming her presence as a current and relevant musician. This article supports the claim that Betty X has played with Ministry,, and removes any question of the claim's validity.
This article, as well as this book excerpt,, confirm and validate her work with Martin Atkins and Pigface: Tour Smart.
From her first band, Salon Betty, which performed with Alice In Chains and other influential Seattle bands, to being featured on the new Surgical Meth Machine (Al Jourgensen's new project) to be released April 15th on Nuclear Blast records, Betty X continues to be relevant in the music industry.
Betty X is affiliated with Salon Betty, Satan in High Heels, Ministry, Pigface, Sheep on Drugs, and Surgical Meth Machine. She has current websites and fan pages including,,,,. It would be a detriment to the history of female artists and musicians, as well as the history of post-apocalyptic rock, music in Seattle, etc.
With all due respect, I am requesting that this page, which has been active for over 10 years, be fully restored. Any claims that were deemed to be without validation will be updated, as well as any other pertinent information. Not only does the removal of this page have an impact on booking agents, etc., to research Betty X, but it also hinders the education of younger generation conceptual artists, musicians, singers, and songwriters. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Terivangogo (talk • contribs) 20:29, 14 February 2016 (UTC)
References
- http://dubeat.com/2015/09/book-review-the-covert-perspective-by-sambhav-ratnakar/
- http://www.theunder18.com/sambhav-ratnakar/
- http://www.ontourmonthly.com/ministry-spreads-the-word-at-the-bomb-factory-in-dallas/
- http://www.xmag.com/archives/13-09-mar06/feature4.html
- https://books.google.com/books?id=le5Sr5YCyk4C&pg=PA130&lpg=PA130&dq=%22Betty+X%22+%2B+Pigface&source=bl&ots=BRPDTk1w8T&sig=EyYGbKYns_lyApJYIvZJ-0pCsDk&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi7g8PLhfjKAhWCeSYKHWQQDE04ChDoAQglMAI#v=onepage&q=%22Betty%20X%22%20%2B%20Pigface&f=false
- https://bettyx.bandcamp.com/
- https://www.facebook.com/BettyXOfficial/?pnref=lhc
- https://twitter.com/bettyxofficial
- https://www.reverbnation.com/bettyx
- https://myspace.com/bettyx
- FYI MA this thread Misplaced Pages:Help desk#Deleted.2Fremoved article - Betty X has already answered this persons questions. I have directed the to WP:DRV as well. Cheers and enjoy your week. MarnetteD|Talk 21:05, 14 February 2016 (UTC)
- Alright, see my response above to the last person who asked about her, but basically I'd recommend creating a new draft. Mark Arsten (talk) 03:56, 16 February 2016 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
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File:Wolfgang priklopil.jpg
Hi Mark. The file is not orphaned anymore (broken file link). --Leyo 22:37, 1 March 2016 (UTC)
- Looks like someone else took care of it, sorry for the delay in responding. Mark Arsten (talk) 03:52, 8 March 2016 (UTC)
Changes in Ranveer Singh's page
Hi Mark, I'm Ranveer Singh's manager. (Page URL: https://en.wikipedia.org/Ranveer_Singh ) The info panel wrongly mentions his relatives to from the Kapoor family. I tried to remove this data from the page and also change his profile picture but it keeps the original, incorrect information. Would request you to help me make these changes and get them to stay on the page. Thanks.
Ishaan2212 (talk) 07:53, 2 March 2016 (UTC)
- Hi Ishaan2212, I would recommend you post to Talk:Ranveer Singh to explain the changes that you wish to make to the article, providing sources to back them up if possible. That way other people who are familiar with the subject can help evaluate and make changes to the article. Mark Arsten (talk) 03:57, 8 March 2016 (UTC)
Speedy deletion nomination of Rosin Jolly
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- I only created a redirect, but thanks for the note. Mark Arsten (talk) 03:50, 8 March 2016 (UTC)
Reworking previously deleted Michael de Claro biography, now with references
Hi Mark, the Michael de Claro biography I wrote a few years ago was deleted due to the lack of references. I now have the references for the article and would also like to update the content but it is no longer available. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Medevenx (talk • contribs) 11:20, 7 March 2016 (UTC)
- Hi, the best thing to do would be to work on a Userspace draft of the article until it is sourced. I can move the deleted revisions there for you if you want. Mark Arsten (talk) 03:50, 8 March 2016 (UTC)
Request for information
I have been editing wikipedia from quite sometime now. Could I become an admin. Is there any criteria or similar for such. I love editing wikipedia and providing positive information always. — Preceding unsigned comment added by MMXVI (talk • contribs) 14:47, 22 March 2016 (UTC)
- Hi, anyone can become an admin if they are involved with the project long enough and do good work. People who vote at WP:RFA often have very high standards (sometimes comically high) about who they will support. Generally most people who succeed at RFA have a been active for more than a year and have more than 6,000 edits. Writing quality articles and participating in deletion work and counter-vandalism is generally looked on very well at RFA. So if you enjoy doing those things, you will eventually have a good chance at becoming an admin. Let me know if you have any questions. Mark Arsten (talk) 20:22, 23 March 2016 (UTC)
Closed AfD where article was never deleted?
Hi Mark, you closed this AfD https://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Andrew_de_Burgh in December, but the article still remains & the subject (it's a promotional autobio) continues to edit it. Not sure why it never actually got deleted, can you address this please? JamesG5 (talk) 20:48, 27 March 2016 (UTC)
- Well, it looks like it was deleted after that Afd, but someone recreated it later and no one noticed for a while. Another admin has taken care of the recreation, thankfully. If they try to create it again we can just WP:SALT the title. Mark Arsten (talk) 21:05, 27 March 2016 (UTC)
Dhudhi
Hi Mark, you semi-protected Dhudhi in December for three months. That expired last week and in the last couple of days one anon and one new user account have added a load of content that simply doesn't meet V, RS etc and appears in part to be likely copyright violations. I've just reverted that lot.
Of course, the anon may be the same person who subsequently registered a user account. I've left a welcome with the latter but it might be handy if you could spare the time to keep an eye on things there. I suspect we may well soon need another spell of semi, sorry. - Sitush (talk) 13:27, 28 March 2016 (UTC)
- Ok, I'll take a look. Mark Arsten (talk) 00:51, 1 April 2016 (UTC)
Johnny Garrett
Johnny Garrett may need to be re-evaluated. In South by Southwest they released a movie loosely based on the case The Last Word of Johnny Frank Garrett http://schedule.sxsw.com/2016/events/event_FS19784 and there had been previously a documentary and a fictional novel based on his case http://www.thelastworddocumentary.com/nl.php
I could just write a new article with sourced info but I'm wondering if it's a good idea to do a DRV first? Either way I would like to recover the previous edit hitory. WhisperToMe (talk) 23:25, 31 March 2016 (UTC)
- I wouldn't bother with a DRV in this case. The other version was hardly sourced at all, so we might as well just create a new article and let someone take it to AFD again if they still think it fails WP:CRIME with all the new coverage. Mark Arsten (talk) 00:55, 1 April 2016 (UTC)
Deletion of Delta Sigma Iota
Hi Mark, I am reaching out regarding the deletion of the page for Delta Sigma Iota (https://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Delta_Sigma_Iota)
The page was deleted in 2012 as a result of review which stated the organization did not have a national scope. However, since then the organization has expanded and has an official presence in over seven major universities http://www.deltasigmaiota.org/chapters--colonies.html in multiple states. Additionally, the organization has also been recognized by the National Asian Pacific Islander Pan-Hellenic Association (http://www.napahq.org/about/#organizations)
- Hi, I'm not too familiar with the guidelines for these types of articles. The best thing to do would be to open a section about the article at deletion review, WP:DRV. Thanks, Mark Arsten (talk) 13:40, 5 April 2016 (UTC)
- I've left a note for them at WP:REFUND. However my concern here is that seven chapters might not be what is considered as far as "scope of their activities is national or international in scale". They also left a link to a Google search, but a look at the coverage shows that much of it is trivial mentions by student newspapers at the handful of colleges that host chapters. The mentions are usually that they participated in something at their universities with other Greek organizations and it seems to all be in passing. They also linked to a userfied version of the page that contained copyvio from the official website - I'm more mentioning that just so that they see an explanation as to why this was deleted. To be honest, I don't entirely see where the past concerns at AfD have really been met, although I have no problem with them trying to make a new article at WP:AfC. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡) 06:33, 8 April 2016 (UTC)
- Thanks for looking into that. I tend to agree with your analysis here. Mark Arsten (talk) 20:44, 11 April 2016 (UTC)
Moose You indefinitely locked down open editing nearly 3 years ago? A bit excessive
Heads up! You locked down Moose nearly 3 years ago. Is not that excessive and against the policy of anyone can edit? You might want to reconsider your indefinite block on a species of Deer. 23.235.7.188 (talk) 21:04, 12 April 2016 (UTC)
- It's unfortunate, but sometimes we get so much nonsense on a given page that we have to protect it from unregistered users. It's not actually against policy, see here for the explanation. I don't recall much about this page specifically though. Would you like me to take another look? Mark Arsten (talk) 21:23, 12 April 2016 (UTC)
Request to move recently deleted article to draftspace or userfy
Hi Mark, would it be possible for you to move Katie Rodan to draft space or my userspace so that it can be worked on or parts incorporated in the related Proactiv article? There is a related deletion review. Thank you. Hmlarson (talk) 21:30, 21 April 2016 (UTC)
- Ok, done. Mark Arsten (talk) 22:37, 21 April 2016 (UTC)
Precious anniversary
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--Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:48, 22 April 2016 (UTC)
Five years now! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:20, 22 April 2017 (UTC)
... and six --Gerda Arendt (talk) 04:26, 22 April 2018 (UTC)
... and seven! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:17, 22 April 2019 (UTC)
... and eight - I find you a bit silent --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:07, 22 April 2020 (UTC)
File restore request
Hello, can you restore the following image files?
- File:Yu-Gi-Oh! World Championship Tournament 2004 Cover.png
- File:Yu-Gi-Oh! Worldwide Edition - Stairway to the Destined Duel Coverart.png
- File:Dawnofdestiny.jpg
Thanks, « Ryūkotsusei » 04:40, 30 April 2016 (UTC)
- @Ryūkotsusei: Sorry for the delay, I've restored the images. Mark Arsten (talk) 02:14, 3 May 2016 (UTC)
India and Indic scripts
Hullo,
First I noticed that you blocked edition of the Misplaced Pages page for India indefinitely so much so that even the most basic edits can't be done
Second, there's a so-called "consensus" on Indic scripts that goes back quite a long time ago and was wondering if a new vote could be organised? (I don't think there was any initial voting to be frank)
The reasons are as follows: The consensus seems to be very strictly enforced on any India related page but Indic scripts are used broadly on say the Misplaced Pages page of Bangladesh, where's the logic in that?
Secondly, the ban against Indic script stemmed from the controversy of what language should be used to write the native names of Indian personalities eg local languages like Gujerati for Gandhi and Modi? Or Hindi, the official language, for everyone? But where's no language controversy like in writing Bharat Ganarajya in Hindi, why the fuss?
Thirdly, I personally favour scrapping the ban by using the same policies as applied to personalities who come from countries where there are multiple official languages or people who are of "foreign" origins when compared to their current nationality or state of residence.
For instance, Nobel Laureate Ada Yonath has her name in Hebrew despite the fact that Israel has two official languages. Her religious background was here seen as a criterion for picking the right language.
Similar solutions based on background could be used for Indian personalities.
What are your views?
Manish2542 (talk) 23:33, 2 May 2016 (UTC)
- Hello, India still can be edited, just not by new accounts and unregistered user. I haven't been very active on this article though. The best thing to do would be to post your proposed changes on Talk:India for consideration on that article. Also, Misplaced Pages talk:Noticeboard for India-related topics would be a good place for general concerns about the subject. Sorry I can't be of more help. Mark Arsten (talk) 02:19, 3 May 2016 (UTC)
- @Manish2542: has very nice point. The consensus may have changed. The present approach makes no sense at all. Mohsinpathania (talk) 18:37, 5 May 2016 (UTC)
- @Mark Arsten: Thank you for your answer, appreciated. That's weird, I'm a long time editor and a registered user, I'll try again then. I'll try to do the necessary on the Talk:India page but I need the support of veterant users like you so if you wanna help, feel free
Thanks @Mohsinpathania: I'll need help to raise the issue and organise a vote, can you help?
Manish2542 (talk) 22:15, 10 May 2016 (UTC)
Ashley van Haeften
Hello. Please unlock this article because I want to work on it to improve it very much. My draft is at here Mohsinpathania (talk) 18:34, 5 May 2016 (UTC)
- Hi, last I recall, this article was a pretty clear case of WP:BLP1E. Has that changed with recent coverage? We'd usually need to see a lot of coverage around one event or coverage about more than one event to have an article on someone. Mark Arsten (talk) 18:57, 5 May 2016 (UTC)
- That probably related to banning/resignation issue. Beyond that he is recently notable for initiating motion to remove Ammon Geshun, as most prolific Commons uploader, as a privacy expert assisting UK Parliament Committee etc. Also notability standards for Chair of Wikimedia UK should be on par with that of Chair of Wikimedia USA., see 1, 2 where the notability standards for WP:N, WP:BIO, WP:BLP1E, WP:GNG etc. were discussed in considerable length, comments were made that Chairs of Wikimedia were automatically notable, .. We extend this favour to Wikipedians with marginal notability. (Not marginally notable non-Wikipedians, though. We take care of our own) etc. Van Haeftan has many more reliable citations compared to Devouad. Mohsinpathania (talk) 22:57, 5 May 2016 (UTC)
- Seems like the motion, uploading, and testimony have only garnered fairly trivial coverage. I'm not inclined to unprotect for that reason. Also, I disagree that we should hold Wikipedian biographies to a different standard than run-of-the-mill BLPs. Mark Arsten (talk) 16:02, 6 May 2016 (UTC)
- The consensus at the last Florence Devouard DR (previously linked) was "Keep - there's is minimal enough coverage to meet the guidelines for WP:N". The same standard should be applied here for van Haeften (a past Wikimedia Chair) since there is reliable media coverage of him beyond a BLP1E event and which adequately meets the minimal coverage guidelines for WP:N far better than in Devouard's case. From Parliament TV, Text the coverage for the testimony event was not limited just to BBC Television and he is notable for at least 2 events. Luridaxiom (talk) 04:41, 7 May 2016 (UTC)
- As I said before, we would have to see significant coverage for more than one event. I'm not seeing anywhere near that level of coverage. If you disagree with me on this, you are free to open a deletion review. Note that you should talk to the admin who actually deleted the article first though (User:John Vandenberg). Mark Arsten (talk) 05:08, 7 May 2016 (UTC)
- IMO WP:DR is the best approach here, as the existing article covered most of the proposed article, so it should be undeleted and expanded if there is consensus for it, so that attribution is kept. Based on the sources at Talk:Wikimedia UK#Ashley van Haeften, I wouldnt undelete it, but I also would very likely vote delete wrt Florence Devouard unless I found something not already on the article. John Vandenberg 05:56, 7 May 2016 (UTC)
- @John Vandenberg: I've added several new sources over at Talk:Wikimedia UK#Ashley van Haeften and c/e'd it some. The deleted article had 2 only sources and was deleted with the summary G10: Attack page or negative unsourced BLP: bio based on one event and very low quality sources for a bio; contributor has marked themselves as retire. All these defects have been addressed with the present BLP proposal for a notable and active Wikimedian. Luridaxiom (talk) 19:59, 7 May 2016 (UTC)
- Using Misplaced Pages Signpost as a source isnt likely to help your cause... As I said, I am not seeing enough notability. WP:BLPDEL applies. No admin is going to independently unprotect unless the proposed article is unquestionably notable. So you need to work with other editors to get consensus, either on that talk page or at WP:DR. John Vandenberg 06:59, 8 May 2016 (UTC)
- @John Vandenberg: Under WP:BLPDEL the deleting admin should be prepared to disclose if the subject had requested deletion. This also seems a case of past administrative "summary deletion" so it would be inappropriate to approach the community via DR (which is a "review" process) since this was not a community deletion. Because the Signpost report (which is intensively peer reviewed throughout Wikidom) shows you had a COI situation with the article subject, I am merely requesting you to administratively restore the article of this notable former Wikimedia UK Chair to the one proposed so that interested editors can work on it and bring it to near GA status. Luridaxiom (talk) 09:46, 8 May 2016 (UTC)
- Of course I am willing to declare such a thing. As far as I can recall, the subject did not request deletion, and a quick check of my emails doesnt show anything related at that time.
- If I have a COI, I should be taking no action at all. John Vandenberg 10:19, 8 May 2016 (UTC)
- Thanks. To assist, the dates in 2012 were 11.July (Fae elected), 13.July or thereabouts (An email to the private chapters list, the copy which 'Tony1' claims you shared with him), 01.August (your admin deletion of Fae's BLP article). The article as it stood then is a far cry from the present BLP proposal. So perhaps @Mark Arsten: can now take the call on unlocking the article so it can be recreated for the proposed content - ie. if you have no objections ? Luridaxiom (talk) 14:15, 8 May 2016 (UTC)
- Neither John nor I will be undeleting or unprotecting the article for the reasons outlined above. You are free to seek outside review from admins in another venue, but I doubt you'll have much success, to be honest. Mark Arsten (talk) 17:38, 8 May 2016 (UTC)
- Looking at the deleted article, it was deleted as an attack page and it was entirely negative. Most of the information was written in a more neutral fashion at Wikimedia UK#Chairman resigns. Luridaxiom, if you are seeking an article on this subject, I think it would be best if you started from scratch with a draft (in Draft space, not article talk space). I can't imagine there is any material in the deleted article that you would want to use and there was only one contributor and one contribution. If you create a worthy article, that meets notability standards, then the page can be unprotected and you can move the draft to main space. Liz 21:35, 8 May 2016 (UTC)
- Thanks Liz. Have done so at Draft:Ashley van Haeften Luridaxiom (talk) 07:08, 9 May 2016 (UTC)
- Looking at the deleted article, it was deleted as an attack page and it was entirely negative. Most of the information was written in a more neutral fashion at Wikimedia UK#Chairman resigns. Luridaxiom, if you are seeking an article on this subject, I think it would be best if you started from scratch with a draft (in Draft space, not article talk space). I can't imagine there is any material in the deleted article that you would want to use and there was only one contributor and one contribution. If you create a worthy article, that meets notability standards, then the page can be unprotected and you can move the draft to main space. Liz 21:35, 8 May 2016 (UTC)
- Neither John nor I will be undeleting or unprotecting the article for the reasons outlined above. You are free to seek outside review from admins in another venue, but I doubt you'll have much success, to be honest. Mark Arsten (talk) 17:38, 8 May 2016 (UTC)
- Thanks. To assist, the dates in 2012 were 11.July (Fae elected), 13.July or thereabouts (An email to the private chapters list, the copy which 'Tony1' claims you shared with him), 01.August (your admin deletion of Fae's BLP article). The article as it stood then is a far cry from the present BLP proposal. So perhaps @Mark Arsten: can now take the call on unlocking the article so it can be recreated for the proposed content - ie. if you have no objections ? Luridaxiom (talk) 14:15, 8 May 2016 (UTC)
- @John Vandenberg: Under WP:BLPDEL the deleting admin should be prepared to disclose if the subject had requested deletion. This also seems a case of past administrative "summary deletion" so it would be inappropriate to approach the community via DR (which is a "review" process) since this was not a community deletion. Because the Signpost report (which is intensively peer reviewed throughout Wikidom) shows you had a COI situation with the article subject, I am merely requesting you to administratively restore the article of this notable former Wikimedia UK Chair to the one proposed so that interested editors can work on it and bring it to near GA status. Luridaxiom (talk) 09:46, 8 May 2016 (UTC)
- Using Misplaced Pages Signpost as a source isnt likely to help your cause... As I said, I am not seeing enough notability. WP:BLPDEL applies. No admin is going to independently unprotect unless the proposed article is unquestionably notable. So you need to work with other editors to get consensus, either on that talk page or at WP:DR. John Vandenberg 06:59, 8 May 2016 (UTC)
- @John Vandenberg: I've added several new sources over at Talk:Wikimedia UK#Ashley van Haeften and c/e'd it some. The deleted article had 2 only sources and was deleted with the summary G10: Attack page or negative unsourced BLP: bio based on one event and very low quality sources for a bio; contributor has marked themselves as retire. All these defects have been addressed with the present BLP proposal for a notable and active Wikimedian. Luridaxiom (talk) 19:59, 7 May 2016 (UTC)
- IMO WP:DR is the best approach here, as the existing article covered most of the proposed article, so it should be undeleted and expanded if there is consensus for it, so that attribution is kept. Based on the sources at Talk:Wikimedia UK#Ashley van Haeften, I wouldnt undelete it, but I also would very likely vote delete wrt Florence Devouard unless I found something not already on the article. John Vandenberg 05:56, 7 May 2016 (UTC)
- As I said before, we would have to see significant coverage for more than one event. I'm not seeing anywhere near that level of coverage. If you disagree with me on this, you are free to open a deletion review. Note that you should talk to the admin who actually deleted the article first though (User:John Vandenberg). Mark Arsten (talk) 05:08, 7 May 2016 (UTC)
- The consensus at the last Florence Devouard DR (previously linked) was "Keep - there's is minimal enough coverage to meet the guidelines for WP:N". The same standard should be applied here for van Haeften (a past Wikimedia Chair) since there is reliable media coverage of him beyond a BLP1E event and which adequately meets the minimal coverage guidelines for WP:N far better than in Devouard's case. From Parliament TV, Text the coverage for the testimony event was not limited just to BBC Television and he is notable for at least 2 events. Luridaxiom (talk) 04:41, 7 May 2016 (UTC)
- Seems like the motion, uploading, and testimony have only garnered fairly trivial coverage. I'm not inclined to unprotect for that reason. Also, I disagree that we should hold Wikipedian biographies to a different standard than run-of-the-mill BLPs. Mark Arsten (talk) 16:02, 6 May 2016 (UTC)
- That probably related to banning/resignation issue. Beyond that he is recently notable for initiating motion to remove Ammon Geshun, as most prolific Commons uploader, as a privacy expert assisting UK Parliament Committee etc. Also notability standards for Chair of Wikimedia UK should be on par with that of Chair of Wikimedia USA., see 1, 2 where the notability standards for WP:N, WP:BIO, WP:BLP1E, WP:GNG etc. were discussed in considerable length, comments were made that Chairs of Wikimedia were automatically notable, .. We extend this favour to Wikipedians with marginal notability. (Not marginally notable non-Wikipedians, though. We take care of our own) etc. Van Haeftan has many more reliable citations compared to Devouad. Mohsinpathania (talk) 22:57, 5 May 2016 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
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Amber Heard
Since it was you who applied pending changes to Amber Heard in January 2014, this is worth a look.--♦IanMacM♦ 08:43, 4 June 2016 (UTC)
Deletion of page for Billy Kirsch
Hi Mark,
I see that you deleted the page that had my biography on it. The page name was Billy Kirsch. In your deletion comments, you mentioned that the some of the information was not verifiable. You correctly refer to All Music to verify some of my credits. But additionally, if you do a search on wikipedia with my name, you'll see that I'm attributed as the author of many hits songs and song recordings in general. So my name and my credits are cross-reference throughout Misplaced Pages itself.
I'd appreciate it if you can restore my page, since it really is legitimate.
Thank you, Billy Kirsch — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kidbilly Music (talk • contribs) 22:17, 5 June 2016 (UTC)
- Hi Billy, sorry for the late response, I haven't been very active on Misplaced Pages recently. Have you read our WP:MUSICBIO guideline? If you meet the standards there it will be possible to have your page restored. Let me know if you have any questions. Mark Arsten (talk) 19:05, 16 June 2016 (UTC)
Draft:Lisa Aliff
I believe that, after the AfD discussion, the article is safe to move back to mainspace. What do you say? --George Ho (talk) 10:46, 17 June 2016 (UTC)
- I'd prefer to see better sourcing, but technically it can be moved to mainspace at this point. Mark Arsten (talk) 19:47, 21 June 2016 (UTC)
- I have improved the sourcing and restored the article. Cheers! bd2412 T 18:49, 18 March 2019 (UTC)
Mark Hughes
I think this edit is potentially libelous and should be redacted. Can you help? 77.130.195.10 (talk) 17:05, 21 June 2016 (UTC)
- Thanks. 77.130.195.10 (talk) 19:45, 21 June 2016 (UTC)
- No prob, glad to help. Mark Arsten (talk) 19:47, 21 June 2016 (UTC)
Goodrich Petroleum Corporation
Hello. Is it possible to see what this article looked like when it was deleted (twice) please? I was just about to start a stub. I think it should definitely have an article as a public oil and gas company.Zigzig20s (talk) 10:53, 29 June 2016 (UTC)
- Ok, looks like it's probably notable. I moved the history to Draft:Goodrich Petroleum Corporation for you. Mark Arsten (talk) 14:04, 29 June 2016 (UTC)
Not Sure What to Make of This - Something Hinky:
Hello,
I don't know if this is something 'wrong' or 'bad', or something that goes against the TOS, but I came across something that just struck a chord within me that just felt wrong or 'off'. I was looking at the entry for Betty J. Sapp the current Director of the National Reconnaissance Office (NOR) and I noticed it was created by a user named "TDRSS." I Also noticed that the content of the page was an almost verbatim reproduction of her official CV provided as a preamble to an official site visit she is making. I also know that TDRSS is the name of a military satellite system: the Tracking and Data Relay Satellite System and which is an NRO-owned system.
So I was thinking that perhaps it might be someone (or group of someones) who is employed by the NRO or one of their contractors, and I began a little digging. I quickly found that the user TDRSS is responsible for the creation and/or frequent editing of pages related to EVERY other director of the NRO as well: <ref>] (Creator)</ref> <ref>] (Early Editor)</ref> <ref>] (Early Editor)</ref> <ref>] (Creator)</ref> <ref>] (Creator)</ref> <ref>] (Early Editor)</ref> <ref>] (Creator)</ref> <ref>] (Early Editor)</ref> <ref>] (Early Editor)</ref> <ref>] (Editor)</ref> <ref>] (Editor)</ref> <ref>] (Creator)</ref> <ref>] (Early Editor)</ref> <ref>] (Creator)</ref> <ref>] (Creator)</ref> <ref>] (Creator)</ref> It struck me as highly unlikely that this person(s) is THAT uniquely interested, as a layman, in the current and past Directors NRO (most of then are downright unremarkable). The author(s) also has created or edited NUMEROUS other (NRO-related) pages, a volume of which is unlikely for a single layperson to create or maintain. Again I don't know if this is anything improper, or untoward, it just felt wrong - for whatever it's worth - but I could be completely off base. Please do what you will with this information (or even do nothing if that is apropriate).
Please feel free to contact me if you have any further questions or concerns:
138.163.106.72 (talk) 22:44, 29 June 2016 (UTC)
Kind Regards
Jeffrey A. La Grua
- Hi Jeffrey, thanks for the detailed note. This is an interesting situation. There are a couple issues that I can see at a glance. One is that this may be a case of conflict-of-interest editing, if not paid editing. The other is the apparent copying. If he is copying public domain resources then that's not as big of a deal, but still needs to be looked into. It doesn't look like he has been too active lately but I will drop a note on his talk page. Mark Arsten (talk) 19:45, 30 June 2016 (UTC)
- Hi, I'm TDRSS. No, I do not work for the NRO. I've used the handle 'tdrss' since the mid-to-late 1990s, when I worked on the satellite system while in college. Yes, I am interested in national security space history, which does include the NRO. But if you notice my edits, I also work on Air Force, SAC, and a variety of other topics. Since I'm well versed in using public domain information, I used the material from an NRO publication (available on their website) to fill the pages of the DNROs. Most of these folks had "lives" other than NRO, so their individual histories would include only a brief snippet of their NRO time. TDRSS (talk) 21:22, 6 December 2017 (UTC)
Help
You're an admin, right? Can I ask, how to create a poll? If there is none, then how does an agreement in Misplaced Pages can be made?
Zero stylinx (talk) 15:39, 1 July 2016 (UTC)
- Well, we don't usually do "polls" per se. Usually if there's a dispute about an article we will just have a discussion between interested editors and try to judge consensus after people weigh in. Sometimes we'll do something closer to a vote, called Misplaced Pages:Requests for comment or WP:AFD depending on the situation. Of course, if there's a discussion about banning someone or promoting someone to admin we basically do just hold a poll but it's not a pure vote in that strength of argument can be taken into account. Mark Arsten (talk) 15:54, 1 July 2016 (UTC)
Speedy deletion nomination of Zoffy
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- I don't know what a Zoffy is. It doesn't sound very notable though. Mark Arsten (talk) 19:29, 1 July 2016 (UTC)
Question
Deletion review for Jennifer Leonhardt
An editor has asked for a deletion review of Jennifer Leonhardt. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. Wiikstaat (talk) 21:59, 3 July 2016 (UTC)
- Hello Mark. I am not sure what this is about but I've moved it to the bottom of your talk page so that you don't have to hunt for it. Cheers. MarnetteD|Talk 13:22, 6 July 2016 (UTC)
- OK I did a little hunting and it seems to be related to this Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Jennifer Leonhardt. I hope that this helps. MarnetteD|Talk 13:24, 6 July 2016 (UTC)
- Thanks Marnette. My advice to the user would be to make a WP:DRAFT using the best sources he/she can find and then I'd consider moving it back to mainspace. Mark Arsten (talk) 18:14, 6 July 2016 (UTC)
- OK I did a little hunting and it seems to be related to this Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Jennifer Leonhardt. I hope that this helps. MarnetteD|Talk 13:24, 6 July 2016 (UTC)
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Took only 300 years to restore a good name. - Thank you for the history merge of the article. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:29, 10 July 2016 (UTC)
Question: I moved User:Gerda Arendt/PumpkinSky Prize to Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Quality Article Improvement/Precious. Would it be difficult to replave all redirects to the current, automatically? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:48, 10 July 2016 (UTC)
--Ged Gilmore (talk) 23:27, 13 August 2016 (UTC)== Didn't do it! ==
Hi Mark I just opened a wiki page and saw I had two messages. I have never seen this before. The messages referred to alterations to pages that I had made being undone. I have just signed up to Misplaced Pages. I have never edited any page on wikipedia and have no intention of ever doing so. I use my mobile phone as a tethered hot spot and do not share it with anyone. Whomever it is that you are trying to contact over this it is certainly not me. Please correct this as i don't wish to become known as a "wiki vandal" as I believe the term is. My Best Regards Ged Gilmore — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ged Gilmore (talk • contribs) 23:25, 13 August 2016 (UTC)
- No worries, unless the warning was given recently admins will assume you're someone else. Mark Arsten (talk) 23:29, 13 August 2016 (UTC)
FAC voluntary mentoring scheme
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Revising and Republishing 'Jonathan Paul Wagner'
Hey Mark,
I'm a writer who has been hired by Jonathan Paul Wagner to look into why his Misplaced Pages page (http://deletedwikipedia.gawker-labs.com/Jonathan_Paul_Wagner) was deleted, in hopes of having me make revisions to content and citation in order to get the page restored. I'd like to change the page so it meets Misplaced Pages's standards, but I'd like a couple suggestions by you as to the best way of going about doing this with particular respect to the article. What caused his article to get taken down, and what are the biggest changes I would need to make to get it back on track? Were sources not credible, or lines cited improperly?
I appreciate any and all advice you can give me on this one, Mark.
- Joseph Cavera — Preceding unsigned comment added by Joesilver72 (talk • contribs) 01:53, 15 September 2016 (UTC)
- Hi, the reason the article was deleted was because it seemed to fail the notability guideline we have for keeping articles about artists. To have the article restored, you'd have to provide sources that make the case that he meets the standards in that guideline. Sources that provide detailed, in-depth discussion of him would also help. Local sources or interviews can help, but usually we want more than that. (Note that we also have rules editing for pay, see here for the instructions on the matter.) Feel free to let me know if you have any more questions. Mark Arsten (talk) 02:51, 15 September 2016 (UTC)
Undelete request for one of my User subpages.
Hi, would you be able to help me out with an undelete of these two of my User subpages? Game Zero magazine / Game Zero magazine, talk page . The were archived when the original pages were deleted while I worked on citations, and then someone came by and deleted them as well. If I could atleast get them undeleted so I can offline copy the contents, I would be very appreciative. Thanks. BcRIPster (talk) 04:37, 15 September 2016 (UTC)
- Sure, why don't you e-mail me and I will send you the text of the draft. Mark Arsten (talk) 14:34, 15 September 2016 (UTC)
- Got'em. Thanks. BcRIPster (talk) 04:23, 22 September 2016 (UTC)
Burke and Hare murders
How lovely to see your name on my watchlist and especially on Burke and Hare murders, my latest FA. I hope your keeping well! Cassianto 14:58, 18 September 2016 (UTC)
- Thanks for the note, it's good to see you too. And to read your fascinating article. Mark Arsten (talk) 15:25, 18 September 2016 (UTC)
Extended confirmed protection
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Protected edit request on 25 September 2016
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Ortiz Gaytan (talk) 22:12, 25 September 2016 (UTC)
- Not sure what this is about? Mark Arsten (talk) 23:40, 25 September 2016 (UTC)
Sock Puppet
Good evening, I'm not sure if this is the right place to post this, but I made the mistake of creating a sock puppet account without the knowledge that it went against the guidelines of Misplaced Pages. I've just started using a Misplaced Pages page today, and when I was creating an article instead of previewing it I accidentally submitted it, before it was complete resulting in speedy deletion. I've made several corrections and added citations, but I noticed that the deletion was still listed. So I used my brother's account to delete the speedy deletion as it said another account can remove the notice. I realize now that was extremely naive, but I had no malintent other than just making sure I could carry editing the article without the deletion in the way. I'm not sure if there is anything else I should cover other than providing a link to the article, but thank you for time and sorry more any issues my use of another account might have created. If I should submit this somewhere else please let me know. Thank you again for your time and ensuring that Misplaced Pages operates on such a high level. https://en.wikipedia.org/User_talk:TravellingTycoon#Sockpuppet_investigation — Preceding unsigned comment added by TravellingTycoon (talk • contribs) 01:08, 26 September 2016 (UTC)
- Ok, thanks for the explanation. As long as you stick to one account in the future you won't have problems. I'll update Misplaced Pages:Sockpuppet investigations/TravellingTycoon. Mark Arsten (talk) 01:25, 26 September 2016 (UTC)
- Also, it looks like Jake Skinner probably does not meet the WP:POLITICIAN guideline. If he wins the election the page will probably meet the guideline (if I'm understanding the office right), but usually local politician articles are deleted. Mark Arsten (talk) 01:34, 26 September 2016 (UTC)
Reviewing Christina Grimmie
Hello, I saw that in 2013, you configured pending changes settings for Christina Grimmie to auto-accept, requiring "autoconfirmed" permission because of "violations of the biographies of living persons policy." Could you remove this now that she's dead? -BRAINULATOR9 (TALK) 22:33, 13 October 2016 (UTC)
- The BLP policy can apply for a while after the subject dies, I believe. I'd be hesitant to remove it for now if there's still disruption going on. Mark Arsten (talk) 00:00, 14 October 2016 (UTC)
I request Checkuser
For this Can you please see https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Misplaced Pages:Sockpuppet_investigations/Hwy43&oldid=744238897 Shark32322 (talk) 00:32, 14 October 2016 (UTC)
Request to review
Would you be willing to review Misplaced Pages:Sockpuppet investigations/Sevcohaha/Archive and the subsequent discussion on the editor's talk page and provide an opinion or suggestions for moving forward? Thank you. Hmlarson (talk) 17:47, 22 October 2016 (UTC)
- I took a quick look at it. Unfortunately, there doesn't seem to be an easy way forward that I can see. The best advice I could give would be for the user to wait six months without editing at all and then request an unblock. Kind of a "Hail Mary" at this point, but after multiple accounts are blocked it's really hard to get permission to edit again. Mark Arsten (talk) 14:59, 26 October 2016 (UTC)
- Thanks for taking a look. Hmlarson (talk) 23:33, 26 October 2016 (UTC)
Definitive Technology Deleted
Hi Mark -
My name is Joel Sietsema. One of my team members tried some time ago to get The "Definitive Technology" page published. He ran into what he deemed some pretty fierce headwinds that stopped it from being approved. Can you help me better understand what it was specifically that stopped it from being approved.
My thanks, Joel — Preceding unsigned comment added by Joel.sietsema (talk • contribs) 02:26, 26 October 2016 (UTC)
- Hi Joel, I think the issue was that some editors felt the sources in the article didn't have enough depth of discussion about the company. (We are often quick to delete articles on corporations for fear of people using Misplaced Pages for advertising.) This guideline has some info about what we look for in articles about companies. The best thing to do would be to create a draft that includes more citations to detailed articles and then request creation of an article. I can move the deleted text to your userspace if you want. Also, please note our conflict of interest editing policy. Let me know if you have any more questions. Mark Arsten (talk) 15:14, 26 October 2016 (UTC)
Zoffy's page
A long time ago, Zoffy's page was deleted and turned into a redirect due to lacking reliable source. If I were to restore the page with reliable source, will you accept it?
Zero stylinx (talk) 09:30, 26 October 2016 (UTC)
- Well, maybe. I'd have to look at the page and the source (hopefully sources) first. Probably best to create a userspace draft first. Mark Arsten (talk) 15:03, 26 October 2016 (UTC)
- User:Zero stylinx/sandbox/Zoffy Zero stylinx (talk) 16:18, 26 October 2016 (UTC)
- Ok, that looks pretty thoroughly sourced, but it is hard for me to evaluate the draft due to the heavy reliance on non-English sources (which is itself 100% alright, per policy). I guess posting to WP:DRV and asking for the deletion to be overturned by restoring this draft would be the best idea now. Mark Arsten (talk) 18:13, 26 October 2016 (UTC)
- Yeah about that, how do I actually use it? I'm not thoroughly experienced. I had once requested Zoffy's page to be un-deleted but one user told me to refer to you (the one who redirect Zoffy's page) instead...Zero stylinx (talk) 22:00, 26 October 2016 (UTC)
- Ok, that looks pretty thoroughly sourced, but it is hard for me to evaluate the draft due to the heavy reliance on non-English sources (which is itself 100% alright, per policy). I guess posting to WP:DRV and asking for the deletion to be overturned by restoring this draft would be the best idea now. Mark Arsten (talk) 18:13, 26 October 2016 (UTC)
- User:Zero stylinx/sandbox/Zoffy Zero stylinx (talk) 16:18, 26 October 2016 (UTC)
promotional account User:Foreverstocks
User:Foreverstocks has only created 2 pages, both of which have been tagged for speedy deletion due to purely promotional content. i tagged one, someone else tagged the other back in march 2015. the user hasnt made any other posts or edits to articles. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 114.72.120.122 (talk) 18:39, 28 October 2016 (UTC)
Two-Factor Authentication now available for admins
Hello,
Please note that TOTP based two-factor authentication is now available for all administrators. In light of the recent compromised accounts, you are encouraged to add this additional layer of security to your account. It may be enabled on your preferences page in the "User profile" tab under the "Basic information" section. For basic instructions on how to enable two-factor authentication, please see the developing help page for additional information. Important: Be sure to record the two-factor authentication key and the single use keys. If you lose your two factor authentication and do not have the keys, it's possible that your account will not be recoverable. Furthermore, you are encouraged to utilize a unique password and two-factor authentication for the email account associated with your Wikimedia account. This measure will assist in safeguarding your account from malicious password resets. Comments, questions, and concerns may be directed to the thread on the administrators' noticeboard. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 20:33, 12 November 2016 (UTC)
A new user right for New Page Patrollers
Hi Mark Arsten.
A new user group, New Page Reviewer, has been created in a move to greatly improve the standard of new page patrolling. The user right can be granted by any admin at PERM. It is highly recommended that admins look beyond the simple numerical threshold and satisfy themselves that the candidates have the required skills of communication and an advanced knowledge of notability and deletion. Admins are automatically included in this user right.
It is anticipated that this user right will significantly reduce the work load of admins who patrol the performance of the patrollers. However,due to the complexity of the rollout, some rights may have been accorded that may later need to be withdrawn, so some help will still be needed to some extent when discovering wrongly applied deletion tags or inappropriate pages that escape the attention of less experienced reviewers, and above all, hasty and bitey tagging for maintenance. User warnings are available here but very often a friendly custom message works best.
If you have any questions about this user right, don't hesitate to join us at WT:NPR. (Sent to all admins).MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 13:47, 15 November 2016 (UTC)
ArbCom Elections 2016: Voting now open!
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Happy Thanksgiving
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- Thanks! I saw Messiah performed the other day, and I thought of you. Mark Arsten (talk) 03:16, 28 November 2016 (UTC)
please consider an addition to Bruno Mars semi-protected page
section discography Earth to Mars unofficial release (2011) i am new to this so please let me know if this is the proper forum to add to a semi-protected page Davomail (talk) 21:32, 24 November 2016 (UTC)
- Hi, the right place to post the request would be Talk:Bruno Mars. Mark Arsten (talk) 03:13, 28 November 2016 (UTC)
hi
how do i submit a sockpuppet case? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Paramdeeptung (talk • contribs) 22:59, 24 November 2016 (UTC)
- Hi, there are instructions at Misplaced Pages:Sockpuppet investigations, look for the "How to open an investigation" box. Let me know if you have any issues, Mark Arsten (talk) 03:15, 28 November 2016 (UTC)
Template:In use
Hello, Mark. Is this template good enough for ECP? It is a recurrently used and highly visible template, but can you trust EC users to edit this template? --George Ho (talk) 06:15, 29 November 2016 (UTC)
- I don't see any reason to change the protection here, to be honest. Mark Arsten (talk) 14:27, 29 November 2016 (UTC)
Creating a Page on a Person that you deleted a few years ago
Hello Mark, I've spent some time creating a page about a comedian I've been watching for a few years "Dan Willis" Initially I contacted Dan, he said that his friend had a page written for him by a Fiver.com writer years ago, but it had been deleted, and he hadn't really thought about it since.. I created the new page "Dan Willis Comedian and Computer Expert", which someone changed to "Dan Willis (comedian), which then got put up for speedy deletion because it was on a similar subject matter to the one you deleted. This feels unfair, as Ive only used information sourced (and referenced) from online publishers, journals and news feeds.. Also, this being my first page, I'm not too savvy on things like- contesting a speedy deletion, the person who put it up for Speedy deletion said there is a button I can click, but I cant find it anywhere.. Any help would be gratefully accepted.. Rhiandorothybell (talk) 04:34, 11 December 2016 (UTC)
- Hi Rhian, sorry for the confusion. It looks like the speedy deletion request was declined though. It's probably safe for now, but someone could still nominate it for a deletion discussion in the future. That would take a week or so and be open for public input on the matter, at the very least. Mark Arsten (talk) 02:24, 12 December 2016 (UTC)
Dean Winters
Now is the time to end PC protection. I don't see any huge vandalism lately. --George Ho (talk) 21:56, 11 December 2016 (UTC)
I've not received your response yet. George Ho (talk) 05:53, 20 December 2016 (UTC)
- Please post your protection change requests on RFPP in the future. Mark Arsten (talk) 17:35, 20 December 2016 (UTC)
- If I recall correctly, you enabled pending changes, right? Also, I was recommended per WP:RFPP to discuss the person who did the enabling. --George Ho (talk) 19:37, 20 December 2016 (UTC)
- That's right, but what I mean is, for pages I've protected you can just skip the step of discussing it with me before posting the request on RFPP. Mark Arsten (talk) 20:09, 20 December 2016 (UTC)
- If I recall correctly, you enabled pending changes, right? Also, I was recommended per WP:RFPP to discuss the person who did the enabling. --George Ho (talk) 19:37, 20 December 2016 (UTC)
Operation Red Hat Suggestion Comment
Mark, I've been redeveloping material from the deleted Operation Red Hat into an new article on a wider subject which is in my sandbox 1. Given your deletion and the prior complaints of facts being misrepresented (some valid, some disputed), I would like to request that you give it a once over for factual errors, poor sourcing, and synthesis. Many new sources have been released since deletion that support the majority of the previous article and several may require further support. However, I am still finding my own copyedits of non-public domain text so it is not complete by a long shot. I already know it is still long and complicated. Thanks. Johnvr4 (talk) 01:43, 12 December 2016 (UTC)
- Wow, that is a huge article. I'm sure a lot of work has gone into writing it, but I'm worried that it might just be too long. My page size script is placing it at over 21,000 words, which is longer than our article on the Vietnam War, for reference. I would really suggest trimming it, if you can. Mark Arsten (talk) 02:18, 12 December 2016 (UTC)
- It is too long. Thank you for the perspective. I'm hoping a new RS is pending to sum up a lot of it (like most of the VA stuff). The Vietnam war was only about 19.5 years and the Okinawa activity in the proposed sandbox article covers 72 years (to date) and a lot of related Vietnam War material. All of the issues discussed are controversial which require both sides and will probably require their own articles at some point. An issue I see on the horizon is that any moves to new topic articles would have likely have too much weight on Okinawa with the inclusion of a lot of this material. I haven't reached any other conclusion on that aspect yet other than it's too long. Johnvr4 (talk) 02:32, 12 December 2016 (UTC)
- Ok, well, my inclination is to say, just move it back since it has been more than three years. My only worry is that if it's moved back to mainspace it will end up going through the same type of Afd as last time. What title were you going to put this under? Mark Arsten (talk) 20:07, 12 December 2016 (UTC)
- Not really sure at this point. It was the suggestion of another editor that where the entry was going was a lot greater that Op Red Hat could or should cover and a new topic was needed. A lot of newer sources have been released since that time. Legacy of... was the tittle I was working under but that is wide open to suggestion and might need to change if much material is moved out. I was hoping to get some feedback and identify all of the places that need work, further citations, or quotes before going too far forward to avoid and/or rectify/(or explain) the past or future complaints prior to any more embarrassments. Johnvr4 (talk) 16:57, 14 December 2016 (UTC)
- Ok, that sounds good. You might want to ask someone at MILHIST Wikiproject to look at it. They would likely be able to help a lot more than I could. Mark Arsten (talk) 01:16, 16 December 2016 (UTC)
- Thank you again Mark. I've posted there. What is the etiquette on notifying the editors previously involved in the removal of Op Red Hat of my eventual intent of making a place for it on the main space? Once again, Thank you. Johnvr4 (talk) 15:13, 17 December 2016 (UTC)
- Just posting on their talk page about it should be fine. The only time you have to worry about canvassing is if there is an AFD or something going on. Mark Arsten (talk) 17:33, 20 December 2016 (UTC)
- So, Mark Arsten I posted here and got little response. Per your advice, I asked one of the involved editors (user:buckshot06) to take a look at the draft in my sandbox which is no way ready. He ended to the discussion. Then he took the material in my sandbox that I was developing and started a new article with it which he published here Operation Red Hat!
- Is this at all a legitimate move and how do I handle it if it is not? Is "stealing" from WP editors sandboxes even "a thing"? I feel robbed and I literally caught a burgler last night and he is literally in the hospital ever since. Thanks (and sorry). Johnvr4 (talk) 21:04, 27 December 2016 (UTC)
- I have reminded Johnvr4 of his earlier version of this article, which was deleted, and the fact that that was completely released into the public, and, regarding the userspace, of WP:UPYES, as well as the CC-BY-SA 3.0 rules. Happy to answer any further queries, but reading the talkpage discussion at my talkpage should answer most of them. Regards Buckshot06 (talk) 21:20, 27 December 2016 (UTC)
- I rescind my request for User:Buckshot06's assistance. WP:HUD? The draft was not WP:ABANDONED.
- Do I need need to modify anything to be compliant with WP:UPYES Couldn't you have just mentioned that concern instead of just taking it and opening a new entry?? Was it just done out of spite? Johnvr4 (talk) 21:41, 27 December 2016 (UTC)
- OK, seems you wish to have the discussion here rather than at my talkpage. No, the creation was done to show what a cut down version, more acceptable to article rules, might look like. But your overreaction seemed to end any chance of you considering alternatives that might actually make this a Misplaced Pages article in time. I'll say it again - your approach to this subject seems incompatible with Misplaced Pages article guidelines, and frankly, all the indications are that you should redirect your efforts to a personal website or another form of publishing (like a magazine/journal). But, as with all our posts on this site, yours, mine, Mark Arsten's and others, everything has been released for public use and reuse - that's what the CC-BY-SA license means. Buckshot06 (talk) 21:56, 27 December 2016 (UTC)
- I have reminded Johnvr4 of his earlier version of this article, which was deleted, and the fact that that was completely released into the public, and, regarding the userspace, of WP:UPYES, as well as the CC-BY-SA 3.0 rules. Happy to answer any further queries, but reading the talkpage discussion at my talkpage should answer most of them. Regards Buckshot06 (talk) 21:20, 27 December 2016 (UTC)
- Just posting on their talk page about it should be fine. The only time you have to worry about canvassing is if there is an AFD or something going on. Mark Arsten (talk) 17:33, 20 December 2016 (UTC)
- Thank you again Mark. I've posted there. What is the etiquette on notifying the editors previously involved in the removal of Op Red Hat of my eventual intent of making a place for it on the main space? Once again, Thank you. Johnvr4 (talk) 15:13, 17 December 2016 (UTC)
- Ok, that sounds good. You might want to ask someone at MILHIST Wikiproject to look at it. They would likely be able to help a lot more than I could. Mark Arsten (talk) 01:16, 16 December 2016 (UTC)
- Not really sure at this point. It was the suggestion of another editor that where the entry was going was a lot greater that Op Red Hat could or should cover and a new topic was needed. A lot of newer sources have been released since that time. Legacy of... was the tittle I was working under but that is wide open to suggestion and might need to change if much material is moved out. I was hoping to get some feedback and identify all of the places that need work, further citations, or quotes before going too far forward to avoid and/or rectify/(or explain) the past or future complaints prior to any more embarrassments. Johnvr4 (talk) 16:57, 14 December 2016 (UTC)
- Ok, well, my inclination is to say, just move it back since it has been more than three years. My only worry is that if it's moved back to mainspace it will end up going through the same type of Afd as last time. What title were you going to put this under? Mark Arsten (talk) 20:07, 12 December 2016 (UTC)
- It is too long. Thank you for the perspective. I'm hoping a new RS is pending to sum up a lot of it (like most of the VA stuff). The Vietnam war was only about 19.5 years and the Okinawa activity in the proposed sandbox article covers 72 years (to date) and a lot of related Vietnam War material. All of the issues discussed are controversial which require both sides and will probably require their own articles at some point. An issue I see on the horizon is that any moves to new topic articles would have likely have too much weight on Okinawa with the inclusion of a lot of this material. I haven't reached any other conclusion on that aspect yet other than it's too long. Johnvr4 (talk) 02:32, 12 December 2016 (UTC)
- Sorry that I wasn't around to help with this. While I would normally get permission before moving someone's draft to mainspace, I don't think it is explicitly against policy (but attributing it in an edit summary is important). Mark Arsten (talk) 01:14, 4 January 2017 (UTC)
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Operation Red Hat again
Operation Red Hat is back now and just after your comment and closure of the above section. Buckshot06 quit his discussion, knows I'm diligently working on it and is still discussing on my page and restarted a parallel article. Nick-D was kind enough to previously offer his input. Now what? Johnvr4 (talk) 17:43, 4 January 2017 (UTC)
- Ok, hope your discussions are able to resolve these issues. I think you have enough info for a few articles there, probably. I don't know that I've interacted with Buckshot before, but I recall being very impressed by Nick's articles in the past. Hope things go well. Mark Arsten (talk) 17:47, 4 January 2017 (UTC)
- Have you looked at the edit summaries? This is derived mostly from material that pre-dated your arrival on Misplaced Pages. You do not WP:OWN the operation or the exclusive right to write on it, nor, as we discussed, do you have exclusive rights to anything you have uploaded on this site. As I argued to you, Red Hat and Red Cap are separate operations and should have separate articles. Regards Buckshot06 (talk) 19:28, 4 January 2017 (UTC)
- Yes. I looked at the edit summaries. You've revived utterly incomplete garbage and included several of my early edits to improve it and in the process revived a lot of "bullshit" such as Johnston Atoll is in the North Pacific and brought back uncited material that is clearly WP:OR and is inconsistent with every other source-none of which I WP:OWN. However, YOU now OWN each of those awful edits since you decided to restore them. So I am questioning why this was done since yet again, it did not appear to follow an established policy.
WP:revert#Rollback: "revert all top consecutive edits made by last editor"...WP:rollback:"Standard rollback may only be used in certain situations – editors who misuse standard rollback (for example, by using it to reverse good-faith edits in situations where an explanatory edit summary would normally be expected) may have their rollback rights removed. Since rollback is part of the core administrator tools, an admin could be stripped of their administrative privileges entirely to remove those tools."
- You've conveniently left out the edit prior to any of my edits that said the munitions moves took place at night which I did not make and that some other editor blamed me for "cooking up" which, as you are well aware, was one main reason it was deleted in the first place. Almost every previous editor that originally worked on it no longer edits WP so why restore that edit? What was the WP:point? The revival of the incomplete and faulty entry is not any improvement to anything on Misplaced Pages and is directly "affecting my ability improve and maintain Misplaced Pages" WP:IAR-abg-if you want to review it. Last, you have indicated in each of your suggestions that you have a faulty grasp of what RED HAT or OPERATION RED HAT entails and are acting on your own beliefs rather that what the various (and especially the newer) sources say in plain English. Again, I feel the need to question your motivations since this the revival is obviously no improvement and it's at least the third time you have tried to forcefully cut me out and take over writing this article. Please find a new topic and a new editor to trouble. Johnvr4 (talk) 14:17, 5 January 2017 (UTC)
- I restored that version because you seemed so concerned about use of any of your writing. Please feel completely free to edit the Operation Red Hat article to improve and correct the text. I am just about to remove the munitions move at night text, which I did not remember was any issue at all. But if you believe it is incorrect, I shall remove it.
- What, in plain English and in one clear, logical paragraph, do the newer sources actually say?
- Kind regards Buckshot06 (talk) 18:28, 8 January 2017 (UTC)
- User:Buckshot06, Kindly stay out of my sandbox entirely. I am perfectly able to copy paste from my sandbox when I am ready. And please do not even worry about being accused of having incorrect information. I've already accused you of that and am certain it will continue for a very long time given the understanding you have already provided me. If you don't review the sources yourself, I will continue to challenge your understanding until you give up. I've already explained that there are still copy edits of non-PD sources in my sandbox that I have yet to find and fix. However your last edits appeared to knowingly put at least two(?) copy edits into the article after I expressly warned about it. Nix the resurrected page until the material is sorted. Seriously. JUST STOP NOW!
- If you absolutely MUST work on this subject then you could help by please working to develop a paragraph or two from this sentence: Safety was the primary concern during the operation however several local complexities including rush to complete the mission, the heat, an empty reservoir, water rationing, and a tense political situation added to the difficulty in planning and were all part of Operation Red Hat. Johnvr4 (talk) 20:54, 8 January 2017 (UTC)
- Thank you for your message Johnvr4. I will refrain from the temptation to indulge in all caps and blunt language in response. I'm not sure how I can help your with your proposed paragraph if you are seriously concerned about the use of the sources which you have uploaded. Which sources would you direct me to to write this paragraph, and which time period (62-71, 1971 to Johnson Atoll, or afterwards) are you referring to when you mention the heat, water rationing, tense political situation etc? Kind regards Buckshot06 (talk) 22:13, 8 January 2017 (UTC)
- The "Safety was the primary concern during the operation however several local complexities including rush to complete the mission, the heat, an empty reservoir, water rationing, and a tense political situation added to the difficulty in planning and were all part of Operation Red Hat" line is currently in the draft section: Public opposition to special weapons on Okinawa and in the US (1969-1971). The source is NARA. Operation Red Hat: Men and a mission (1971) see 00:02:50 and 00:17:30- but best to just watch the entire thing. The dried up reservoir, water rationing, is related to the PCP spill and fish kill that's currently in the Legacy of Environmental contamination draft section (and there are more pictures of it). Some RED HAT safety precaution briefing and press demonstration photos are currently in the Retrograde chemicals brought to Okinawa from Vietnam draft section. Johnvr4 (talk) 17:01, 9 January 2017 (UTC)
- Thank you for your message Johnvr4. I will refrain from the temptation to indulge in all caps and blunt language in response. I'm not sure how I can help your with your proposed paragraph if you are seriously concerned about the use of the sources which you have uploaded. Which sources would you direct me to to write this paragraph, and which time period (62-71, 1971 to Johnson Atoll, or afterwards) are you referring to when you mention the heat, water rationing, tense political situation etc? Kind regards Buckshot06 (talk) 22:13, 8 January 2017 (UTC)
- Yes. I looked at the edit summaries. You've revived utterly incomplete garbage and included several of my early edits to improve it and in the process revived a lot of "bullshit" such as Johnston Atoll is in the North Pacific and brought back uncited material that is clearly WP:OR and is inconsistent with every other source-none of which I WP:OWN. However, YOU now OWN each of those awful edits since you decided to restore them. So I am questioning why this was done since yet again, it did not appear to follow an established policy.
- Have you looked at the edit summaries? This is derived mostly from material that pre-dated your arrival on Misplaced Pages. You do not WP:OWN the operation or the exclusive right to write on it, nor, as we discussed, do you have exclusive rights to anything you have uploaded on this site. As I argued to you, Red Hat and Red Cap are separate operations and should have separate articles. Regards Buckshot06 (talk) 19:28, 4 January 2017 (UTC)
- Mark Arsten would you possibly be willing to assist me in nominating the new article for speedy deletion as a POV fork. I cannot seem to get the nomination process correct and have never done it before. Thank you, John Johnvr4 (talk) 17:54, 25 February 2017 (UTC)
I have to say I do not believe the article meets the definition of a POV fork article, even of any article in mainspace. Even if it was a POV fork of a userspace draft it wouldn't meet the requirements. But finally, it's not even a POV fork because (a) it doesn't present a different point of view, and (b) 70-80% is material drawn from the article's state before you, Johnvr4, began any editing of the topic. I would recommend you consult our reasons for deletion (WP:DEL-REASON or WP:DEL#REASON). But none of them seem to apply. Buckshot06 (talk) 16:15, 26 February 2017 (UTC)
- You've created a version of the article to present an article of only "CW/BW transfer from Okinawa to Johnston material" that is highly incomplete and a introduces a POV that avoids a plethora of majority (and minority) opinions from reliable sources on a controversial subject. That motivation appeared to be your intent and long term goal.
- WP:Articles_for_deletion/Operation_Red_Hat,
- User_talk:Buckshot06/Archive_19#Operation_Red_Hat,
- User_talk:Buckshot06/Archive_19#Userspace_copy_of_Red_Hat,
- User_talk:Mark_Arsten#Operation_Red_Hat_Suggestion_Comment,
- User_talk:Buckshot06/Archive_22#Draft_review Johnvr4 (talk) 20:32, 26 February 2017 (UTC)
- Ah, doesn't quite capture what I'm doing. I'm adding that material, yes. That's because that is what I'm absolutely sure of. That's what can be backed up by other reliable sources. I've invited you to edit the article repeatedly because I'm on less sure ground with all the other connected activities, nor am I sure of the sourcing. But it seems that you will not edit the article because you wish to have it presented *entirely* according to your wishes. This is discouraged by WP:OWN. I am attacked if I use some of the connected materials from your sandbox. Please edit the article, and add in your materials!! Please participate in the wikipedia collaborative editing process!! Buckshot06 (talk) 16:50, 2 March 2017 (UTC)
- What you are doing is well described in your own words and edits. No editor should care what you are sure of or not because that is totally inconsistent with WP's goals of using reliable and verifiable sources and every other guideline. You have had numerous opportunities to work together and have each of your concerns addressed and every single time its come back to your failed understanding which is irrelevant, and then it ends with you attempting to cut me out. I wish to have the controversy(S) addressed with the majority and minority views for the relevant sources and it is very highly evident that in every one of your version(s), that goal is not your intent. I will be adding the new source that was published today to the draft in my sandbox which you need to stay completely out of. Johnvr4 (talk) 14:14, 6 March 2017 (UTC)
- Right now there are two editors primarily interested in this article/subject. Neither of their views is irrelevant (to be honest, saying that is a WP:Personal Attack). I remain baffled about how I could be 'cutting you out' after pleading with you immediately above to edit the mainspace article. Your options are twofold: remain editing only your userspace draft, which is not really what a userspace draft is for, or actually get involved in the mainspace. Please engage with me, here or elsewhere, to tell me about well sourced issues which ought to be in the mainspace article, and we can get them in there!! Not every connected issue that you write about in your userspace may end up in the mainspace, but I can certainly see there are issues you write about which ought to be mainspaced. Regards Buckshot06 (talk) 12:32, 7 March 2017 (UTC)
- Your view is not irrelevant. The issue is your bafflement and failure to understand what the reliable sources say. Cutting me out meant taking over completely to make it your version which is exactly what you have done- repeatedly- all of which has already been explained (with links included). It's not personal attack either. You stated your motivation early on so it's an accusation based solely upon observation with strong evidence.
- Your new version/viewpoint, Operation Red Hat, is the 1971 ship ride from point A to B during small part of the the 1963-2000 RED HAT mission. My longstanding viewpoint is that is going to be very difficult to separate the RED HAT Operation from the motivations, legalities etc. and of the deployments and story of the mission. In the event they must be separate articles, I also have all or most all of it written and don't need you make your own version of similar material that you know I have developed of a period of years while waiting for better sources to be published. We talked about this years ago (but my talk page is not archived). Given all previous behaviors I am very highly hesitant to work with you on the material I've developed. When it is ready and I move it to the mainspace then you can take a crack at it. Until then, I am open to advice on how the material in my sandbox might be be developed or improved (including references) and where the material should go so that it can be moved. Don't touch it and don't take any of it.
- To clear this up right now, I years ago had already redeveloped the version of the article that you are currently developing and have been redeveloping material on the subject ever since. When this all started, you deleted over 1/2 the material and locked the page so only you could edit it. Recently, I was advised to ask you for constructive criticism of the version I developed and suddenly you developed a new interest in writing your own version and immediately did so by resurrecting the very article that had just told you that I intended to restart.
- In your own words can you explain what your intended purpose for resurrecting that version of the mainspace article was? Johnvr4 (talk) 18:09, 8 March 2017 (UTC)
- To have a concise summary of what the uncontested sources say Red Hat consisted of, in the mainspace. Your assiduous research has demonstrated that there's lots more, but the triply-verified core of the subject is the 1971 ship transfer.
- The community's original problem with your writing was not that the connected subjects were not valid, useful information, but coherence: so many only vaguely connected subjects are added, that diverge farther and farther from the point, that it is hard to justify their inclusion in one article. This is the main reason, I'd say, why the deletion debate was closed as it did. As an aside, doing this kind of thing on a controversial subject is difficult ahead of further secondary-source accounts. Buckshot06 (talk) 13:20, 9 March 2017 (UTC)
- "The community's problems" in 2011 were partially nonsensical- for example, an editor took issue with a passage that I did not ever once edit and another passage that had been previously removed, a claim that there was some reinterpretation of primary sources and another that there there weren't reliable sources to tie these vague subjects together. The passage I didn't write but was blamed for writing is incidentally the exact part that you revived and put back in your version until I pointed it out. The next part is that the understanding of the subject in published sources changed in Dec. 2012 with the discovery of new docs on the subject just as the source you are using in your version says in its first line!
- Even the initial deletion conversation over 5 years ago acknowledged that the "core" subject was larger than simply the 1971 transfer. Last, if the relation to these subjects is so vague that material couldn't be included or be mentioned, then why do they some get mention in your version. I submit that there is obvious need mention them because the additional newer sources that I have added since the initial deletion support an inclusion. When the article was first deleted five years ago there was a whole list of bogus concerns that I was alleged to have "cooked up in my spare time" The so-called vague relationship to the subject and the inclusion of such material is verified in reliable sources.
- "Uncontested sources." Which sources are contested?
- It seems like you are purposely ignoring just about all of the obvious controversies on the subject that have been exhaustively explored in various reliable sources on the subject. I have no idea what triply-verified core of the subject is referring to anymore as in nearly every source used, you seem to have ignored majority and minority conclusions. Is this because they might deviate from the 1971 relocation operation? Johnvr4 (talk) 15:53, 9 March 2017 (UTC)
- Right now there are two editors primarily interested in this article/subject. Neither of their views is irrelevant (to be honest, saying that is a WP:Personal Attack). I remain baffled about how I could be 'cutting you out' after pleading with you immediately above to edit the mainspace article. Your options are twofold: remain editing only your userspace draft, which is not really what a userspace draft is for, or actually get involved in the mainspace. Please engage with me, here or elsewhere, to tell me about well sourced issues which ought to be in the mainspace article, and we can get them in there!! Not every connected issue that you write about in your userspace may end up in the mainspace, but I can certainly see there are issues you write about which ought to be mainspaced. Regards Buckshot06 (talk) 12:32, 7 March 2017 (UTC)
- What you are doing is well described in your own words and edits. No editor should care what you are sure of or not because that is totally inconsistent with WP's goals of using reliable and verifiable sources and every other guideline. You have had numerous opportunities to work together and have each of your concerns addressed and every single time its come back to your failed understanding which is irrelevant, and then it ends with you attempting to cut me out. I wish to have the controversy(S) addressed with the majority and minority views for the relevant sources and it is very highly evident that in every one of your version(s), that goal is not your intent. I will be adding the new source that was published today to the draft in my sandbox which you need to stay completely out of. Johnvr4 (talk) 14:14, 6 March 2017 (UTC)
My strong view on the article deleted in 2011, shared by others, was that it was too long and too disconnected. If we two together allow ourselves to focus on that, there is a much stronger likelihood of more of your draft seeing mainspace. Please go back and take a look at WP:ARTICLE if you like, about what kind of subjects normally hang together coherently for Misplaced Pages purposes. Please also note that we were not discussing your edits ('an editor took issue with a passage that I did not ever once edit') but the entire article. The article is not, and will not be yours at any time. There's no need to feel slighted at attacks on yours or others' drafted sections.
Uncontested -- possibly a bad choice of words. What seems clearly obvious is that there is no doubt in anyone's mind that Red Hat included the 1971 munitions transfer. I wanted to put something on that in the mainspace. Absolutely yes, for the purposes of placing a short summary of the 1971 munitions transfer in the mainspace, I did not include the material I had no particular expertise or research history with. My purpose was to get a generally agreed subject back into the mainspace. Then others -- I had you in mind -- could add in time material about which they had much greater expertise -- the unrevealed, covered-up, officially hidden issues.
What I will say though is that such adding of material has to add together to be a coherent whole, as is described in WP:ARTICLE -- not something that looks like an unreviewed series of jotted notes. There needs to be one coherent thread from beginning to end.
Finally, I'm trying to clear about my motivations. Please stop impugning them, and WP:Assume Good Faith, and avoid any more personal attacks. I have refrained from reporting you for personal attacks, but I'm well within my rights to do so. Buckshot06 (talk) 17:04, 9 March 2017 (UTC)
- Addendum; I've just gone looking for the userspace guidelines, via WP:MfD, and found this provision: "Userspace is not a free web host and should not be used to indefinitely host pages that look like articles, old revisions, or deleted content, or your preferred version of disputed content." The link is at WP:FAKEARTICLE. Sorry to have to pass on this rather-horrid-sounding advisory.. Buckshot06 (talk) 17:41, 9 March 2017 (UTC)
- Thank you for clearing that up but let's not be silly. Intent from your deeds seems inconsistent from your words. Make no mistake, to support the initial deletion, the stated views from other editors concerned edits attributed to me. I did feel slighted, however that is irrelevant. It made me uber-focused on verifiability but it does not mean there aren't or won't be even better sources.
- I agree it was (and is) too long and some of it was disconnected. However, some of it was and is strongly connected and factual but just not understood-which has been born out the reliable sources published since. I still hope to convince you and other editors of that.
- The sand box is for developing material and there is no time limit to do that that I am aware of.
- My intent, stated repeatedly, is to move it to the main space when it is ready. Your edit declaring my intent to leave it there in perpetuity assumes bad faith too. Your rights? You've asserted it was not yet ready and stated your opinions why you felt that way-that is your right (if you even have any rights on WP to begin with).
- A few phases in the last edit stuck me: "What seems clearly obvious is that there is no doubt in anyone's mind that Red Hat included..." (also "generally agreed"). Are you referring to doubts in the mind of editors or doubts about agreement with a source?
- That question seems to be the root of our disagreement. Editors still seem to have doubts about something from a source or it's relevance to the subject.
- I wanted to make sure the mainspace included something about the 1971 munitions transfer. No more, no less. Buckshot06 (talk) 19:18, 10 March 2017 (UTC)
- "I did not include the material I had no particular expertise or research history with."
- In my view, this is very likely because the sources, core or otherwise, that is used in the version you've created were never triply verified.
- As I've said above, this was about placing something about the 1971 munitions transfer in the mainspace. Buckshot06 (talk) 19:18, 10 March 2017 (UTC)
- By my count, out of the eleven sources now used in the main space submission that you created, three are dead links, two do not have any link, three of the citations have retrieval dates (2012) that you could not have retrieved and a fourth (with no retrieval date) was written (2012) during a time that you were not even interested in the subject.
- Only one cited reference has a retrieval date (2016-12-28) that you verified and that source has all kinds of stuff you aren't grasping, or including, or even believe is relevant. In fact about 1/3-1/2(?) of that triply verified source is about Agent Orange!
- For example, these subjects (and more) are from that one source: "...details of that project have been kept firmly under wraps...newly disclosed scientific studies — and accounts from U.S. veterans who participated in Operation Red Hat — are casting light on the mission and exposing what truly occurred — including the alleged dumping of chemical weapons off the coast of Okinawa."
- "B-52s bombers...the full spectrum of America’s weapons of mass destruction, including hundreds of nuclear warheads and a large arsenal of chemical munitions."
- "Newly discovered documents...international accusations conducting illegal chemical warfare."
- "Now, however, new evidence...Moreover, it appears yet another poison was omitted from officials’ accounts of Operation Red Hat — the toxic defoliant Agent Orange."
- "Ongoing contamination from these substances is another potentially lethal problem...The U.S. military has a long and nasty history of contaminating its bases on Okinawa...poisonous legacy of these weapons of mass destruction."
- Your understanding of the subject appears to be inconsistent with the source(s).
- The end result of deleting the original article and recreating it over and over is that the talk page(s) are lost forever and those discussions helped to explain some of the contested relevance you appear to still not grasp. Johnvr4 (talk) 17:53, 10 March 2017 (UTC)
- Red Hat did without doubt include the 1971 munitions transfer - that's unquestioned. As I've tried to make clear, I aimed by recreating the article to place something about that in the mainspace. I've never examined the sources you talk of; I don't grasp all of the contested relevance, as I've tried to make clear several times. What I added was much more on my interest, military formations ; I added the logistical units and verified some of the ships. As I've said above, I expected you to come along and add to the article with all the things I'm not an expert on. Please stop endlessly questioning the reasons for what I've done previously (and my good faith), and just start adding to the article with your expertise!! We've wasted barrels of ink on this page, let's work on the article!! As an addendum, if you would like the previous talk pages resuscitated, I can do that. Buckshot06 (talk) 19:18, 10 March 2017 (UTC)
- I had asked to restore the talk page five years ago but at the time, you were unable to. If you can still do it, I'd like to see what else is there-if anything.
- 2013 article issues that might be on the talk pages:
- excessive amount of intricate detail that may only interest a specific audience. (June 2013)
- relies too much on references to primary sources. (June 2013)
- may lend undue weight to certain ideas, incidents, or controversies. (June 2013)
- some listed sources may not be reliable. (June 2013)
- may be too long to read and navigate comfortably. (June 2013)
- sections may stray from the topic of the article. (April 2013)
- 2013 article issues that might be on the talk pages:
- As explained, I was advised to ping you by the deleting editor as a courtesy for your input on the current state of the draft. If you won't review the relevant sources at least to determine relevance then all of the time and effort spent over the last five years discussing it or relevance of certain parts really is moot. It was once a B-article before it was deleted. The draft material in my sand box (which now has a few easily-removed editing notes based on our previous conversations) has five years of additional development and new sources and you've recreated a stub (or start) entry without reviewing any of the sources? I honestly do not want to legitimize that action as I don't agree with doing it, or the way it was done, or really anything else about it. I would much rather publish a far improved and perhaps a fully developed (maybe even great) article when it is ready.
- I am willing to collaborate provided the newly revived main space piece is handled but you'll need to be willing to review the sources to understand why something might be relevant before immediately determining on intuition that it should go elsewhere and removing it. It is in its current state because this is how the subject is presented in those sources. That might be the wrong approach but please understand why this was done before you decide.
- Then I'll need help understanding where it else should go and why that is the best route (I do understand size is an issue) and assistance in writing a draft summary bit that points to it the newly relocated material.
- A lot of this is various operations, projects, organizations, units, etc. of which I have little experience ( I wrote 267th Chemical Company-which is probably terrible as it was my first learn-as-you-go unit article attempt) and there is plenty of room to expand these very areas in which you specialize. But there is a ton of controversies and nearly every aspect of it is a new controversy and a really is a challenge to present all sides plus the background in a small sentence or paragraph.
- A Deletion Review WP:DRV based primarily on the new sources (and the removal of the the obvious rookie mistakes) would have been appropriate and perhaps still is. It is the length and perhaps level of detail that are still legitimate concerns and the true scope of the topic is what we need to determine from the sources. Johnvr4 (talk) 16:53, 12 March 2017 (UTC)
- 'sections may stray from the topic of the article' - creating a coherent article - is my primary concern, and is why I want you to add to the mainspace article as it is instead of trying to import any amorphous mass of text. You have not proved to the community you can write a coherent article properly, and frankly on crafting coherent articles your record is not good. Happy to review any sources as they enter the mainspace, but as things are you've repeatedly told me to stay away from your draft/sources. I'll get the talkpages restored. Regards Buckshot06 (talk) 11:35, 13 March 2017 (UTC)
- The concern where 'sections may stray from the topic of the article' material (Japanese WWII and Korean BW allegations) was moved out of the draft and into the appropriate main space article many years ago. I also wrote Beacham Theatre so frankly, what other so-called proof could one need? If we can't even agree to review sources it is probably best to stay away from the draft for now. I'm always willing to hear about a specific concern. I still want the fork article gone. It is a Fork and you've stated that you did not review any sources that support your opinion of the what this subject is or is not- which is now in the main space. Johnvr4 (talk) 16:47, 14 March 2017 (UTC)
- I'm afraid you misunderstand me. Your draft as it stands has no 'golden thread' - single argument traceable from beginning to end. It's not a coherent article addressing one issue - instead it conflates, confusingly, multiple issues of which many arguably really don't address the core topic. That's why when I started editing the original article several years ago I was excising multiple chunks of text. That is my overall concern.
- Regarding forks, yes, we have one short summary article in the mainspace and your magnum opus in your userspace. But the munitions transfer of 1971 is what Red Hat unquestionably is. I would argue that what you've got in your userspace is a better approximation of a POV folk, if we go with the guidelines at WP:CFORK. You've got a clear viewpoint on Red Hat, but it goes well beyond the generally accepted 1971 ship ride as described in many other sources (Globalsecurity.org, for example, or Men and a Mission). For my purposes at the minute I'm worried about the sources that define the core of the subject, not the sources about the connected issues. So I will not move or change the current existing article. You're entirely free to nominate it for deletion, of course. Buckshot06 (talk) 18:31, 14 March 2017 (UTC)
- At least we can agree that your "mass excising" removed big parts of a main space article for which reliable sources supporting inclusion unambiguously now exist. That is one of the criteria that allows a WP:DRV.
- Your viewpoint that "the munitions transfer of 1971 is what Red Hat unquestionably is" is just plain wrong (again, see 267th Chemical Company or any source mentioned above).
- Are you speaking of the Global security article citation about a pier in Okinawa that has a very limited and outdated bit about the subject in it or this, over all of the other high quality sources?
- What is "generally accepted," according to several our reliable sources, changed around 2012. Your stated purpose resists adherence to reliable sources and promotes your opinion of what this subject is. That goal does not seem consistent with our Misplaced Pages policies. Johnvr4 (talk) 15:27, 16 March 2017 (UTC)
No, sorry, would not agree. Not part of Op Red Hat, which is why I removed the sections. Re the 2012 disclosures, if you mean the 267 Chem Co's operation of DOD Project 112, Site 2, that information should be in the Project 112 article, whether or not the munitions were actually stored in the RSHA. Data about Project 112 should stay in the Project 112 article. There might be one line mentioning the storage and linking to Proj 112 in the Red Hat article, but that would be all that's required. Cheers Buckshot06 (talk) 11:05, 17 March 2017 (UTC)
- Just restored the talkpage history. Buckshot06 (talk) 14:34, 17 March 2017 (UTC)
- Thank you for the restoration of the talk page. I will take a look at it.
- "The 267 Chem Co's operation of DOD Project 112, Site 2, information should be in the Project 112 article," (it has a section)
- "Data about Project 112 should stay in the Project 112 article," (I moved it to Deseret Test Center)
- "There might be one line mentioning the storage and linking to Proj 112 in the Red Hat article, but that would be all that's required." (hardly)
- Unfortunately what you've suggested is not likely to ever happen. Please Stop and pause here to review the sources and understand that:
- Operations YBA, YBB, YBF were the operational security names for RED HAT deployments.
- Red Hat was an operational security name for PROJECT 112
- Project 112 was an operational security name for Project Deseret. Johnvr4 (talk) 01:04, 18 March 2017 (UTC)
- The Organizational History of the 267 Chem Co, in that article, clearly states YBA, YBB, and YBF were part of DOD Project 112. Yes they went into the RSHA but they were part of 112. The Project 112 article needs to be reorganised to place these shipments, a major part of the project, in much higher prominence. Buckshot06 (talk) 06:56, 18 March 2017 (UTC)
- You've just pretty much agreed with me in one way - 'Red Hat was an opsec name for 112' - which in my terms would mean everything would be at Project 112. In my terms, there would be a few lines about the Red Hat codename, but nothing more, at the 112 article. Whether the data indicates much of your sandbox should see the light of day at Project 112 or Project Deseret (your third line above) I'm not sure, but neither of those are Red Hat. Buckshot06 (talk) 07:05, 18 March 2017 (UTC)
- I agreed there should be mention at those places. I am going to warn against what you are proposing and if you even try it (as you've done by reviving the old article) without reviewing any of the sources for verifiability there will be administrative issues going forward.
- That would be a bad move. The sources do not and would not ever support that effort. I urge you to pause and review material and you really should heed that advice before proceeding given your previous assertions that you haven't looked at any of the sources on these subjects. Johnvr4 (talk) 12:42, 18 March 2017 (UTC)
- This source must be reviewed to proceed:
- Brankowitz, William R., Chemical Stockpile Disposal Program. Chemical Weapons Movement History Compilation : OFFICE OF THE PROGRAM MANAGER CHEMICAL DEMILITARIZATION ABERDEEN PROVING GROUND, MD, 12 June 1987 16:35, 18 March 2017 (UTC)
- You've just pretty much agreed with me in one way - 'Red Hat was an opsec name for 112' - which in my terms would mean everything would be at Project 112. In my terms, there would be a few lines about the Red Hat codename, but nothing more, at the 112 article. Whether the data indicates much of your sandbox should see the light of day at Project 112 or Project Deseret (your third line above) I'm not sure, but neither of those are Red Hat. Buckshot06 (talk) 07:05, 18 March 2017 (UTC)
- Unfortunately what you've suggested is not likely to ever happen. Please Stop and pause here to review the sources and understand that:
User:Buckshot06, So...the moment that I start breaking up my large draft, you apparently want to start to battling over it and want to merge several of the places I put it and now have started putting it all back together with the section title: "U.S. weapons of mass destruction in Japan" That move was just... underhanded and pathetic. And you've done this without discussing or waiting for anyone else to discuss the merge you proposed! When I asked you where you thought this material should go repeatedly you never once mentioned these any interest locations.
Now, material is only one day out-or less of my sandbox (or an hour, or 5 min after my last edit), it's as if the pages I am editing are suddenly the only thing on Misplaced Pages and you cant keep you hands off my recent submissions to immediately after I hit submit. It is pretty frustrating. WP is a big place. Please find something else to do and get away from me and the edits I make already! Johnvr4 (talk) 04:32, 19 March 2017 (UTC)
- You persist in trying to maintain, *exactly* *as* *you* *have* *drafted* *it*, huge slabs of horribly drafted text which present the issues clearly from one particular viewpoint. There are significant amounts of irrelevant issues (eg Bockscar's landing in an article about post-World War II weapons storage) in there. These type of issues got your magnum opus deleted entirely previously. So why are you surprised when people reorganise your material so it matches better with WP guidelines on content and layout? Clearly the consensus of the community has not changed much, or Hohum wouldn't have deleted large slabs of the nuclear weapons in the southern islands article.
- Then you ignore our clearly written lines -- in each editing box -- that people may redraft your material at will, and persist in wanting to keep it exactly as is, in defiance of WP:OWN. Just read WP:OWN, please.
- Now, I'm going to be here trying to redraft your material into a fashion that's vaguely in line with WP guidelines (which will involve a merge into J & Weapons of mass destruction, because both articles are well under our size limits, and the material fits better into our long-established series of 'X Country & WMD articles'), and I'm going to continue to be here. Anyone can edit any article they like. These are the guidelines under which you agreed to start editing, and haven't changed. If you're unhappy with the consensus of the community, you may seek other-admin action or discussion at a range of sites - there's already a quick post at WT:MILHIST about it. Cheers Buckshot06 (talk) 07:25, 19 March 2017 (UTC)
- Re your B-52 crash article, you should be aware of the guidelines at WP:AIRCRASH. Military aircraft accidents have generally been deemed not notable. Personally I think it's probably worth inclusion as a separate accident, given the huge explosion. It needs to be linked into the B-52 article, the Kadena article, and the relevant wing and squadron articles. You just need to be aware that somebody else may come along in time and think it's not notable. Take a look at WP:AIRCRASH anyway, and if you want further input, best place to ask is WT:AVIATION. Buckshot06 (talk) 07:45, 19 March 2017 (UTC)
- You've missed my intent. I am not try to keep it as I wrote it just because that's how I prefer it (I'm not even that good of a writer). You stated repeatedly that you still don't understand x, y, or Z and I am going to undo any misguided edits you make to the material that are based on those misunderstandings. Your faulty understanding is being challenged and will continue to be challenged as long as it persists.
- Show me where you discussed a move after you first proposed it. I would also advise you to understand what the legal definitions of WMD are and exactly what you are getting into (with herbicides and precursors as WMDs). Maybe the entire sandbox draft should get dumped in there...
- It's a waste of time to even try to debate because your understanding of the subject is way off. I have explained in edits, edit summaries, this talk page, and on the talk page of the entry that your assertions are faulty.
- For example: that "in an article about post-World War II weapons"...WWII A-bombs don't count and any mention of them (or fighting on Okinawa in the decision to use them) should be removed.
- Just look at the title of the entry that says U.S. nuclear weapons in Japan's southern islands and then and tell me what kind of common sense you are using to determine the Atomic bombs on Tinian are not US nuclear weapons in Japanese islands. it is beyond comprehension and I see no point in wasting keystrokes engaging you on that ridiculous viewpoint about the WWII parts of that entry being pushed any longer. I'll be waiting for some type of intelligent response... I opened a talk page section to discuss those concerns and you keep inserting edits based on your own viewpoints without addressing any of the concerns about them I've raised on the article talk page.
- And you inserted serious falsehoods into the main space article that both of the attacks were launched from Okinawa. I make mistakes all the time but I still cannot grasp that any kind of experienced military history editor that has the slightest understanding of this material would ever type that - even by accident - and it makes your arguments and each of your repeated edits to remove material that's includes the WWII part very highly suspect.
- On the B-52 Crash at Kadena, it is linked to those things already (in categories--if I understand your concern but perhaps I do not) and is notable using WPs already established standards of notability -not so much for the size of the explosion, which was enormous, but for the danger it put the weapons depot in, protests, impact on reversion, removal of B-52s, nukes and chemical weapons... this was my first crash article and I'll review the policy(s). Johnvr4 (talk) 13:49, 19 March 2017 (UTC)
- Of course, I disagree: I think I do understand. But, for example, you write an article all of which is about post-1945 except three sentences in the lead, and I interpret that to be about post-1945 only. We have rulings about the lead reflecting the article. I've already said how I believe most of what you have left under Red Hat actually belongs under 112 (or possibly under Project Deseret), and I've laid out my reasons, none of which are invalidated by further things you've said, or by the Chemical Weapons Movement History Compilation, as far as I've scanned it so far. But never mind -- I will cut straight to the chase. Would you prefer I start a WP:MFD (miscellany for deletion) discussion on your preferred, but disputed, version of the article in your sandbox, in line with WP:FAKEARTICLE, not in six months as I had intended to propose, but now? Then we'll get this cleared up sooner rather than later. Cheers Buckshot06 (talk) 15:21, 19 March 2017 (UTC)
- Go ahead and disagree for now... "Your reasons..." Please continue reviewing our sources.
- I think the reasons will soon be fairly obvious why what you have proposed re:Project 112 won't work at all. There is not really a lot of mention of Red Hat within PJ112 but you will figure that out on your own...eventually. I had tried to do that that under Operation Red Hat and no editors to date have ever understood why that was done.
- Putting this all together under "Red Hat" is going to be the only common sense and policy grounded solution.
- Of course, I disagree: I think I do understand. But, for example, you write an article all of which is about post-1945 except three sentences in the lead, and I interpret that to be about post-1945 only. We have rulings about the lead reflecting the article. I've already said how I believe most of what you have left under Red Hat actually belongs under 112 (or possibly under Project Deseret), and I've laid out my reasons, none of which are invalidated by further things you've said, or by the Chemical Weapons Movement History Compilation, as far as I've scanned it so far. But never mind -- I will cut straight to the chase. Would you prefer I start a WP:MFD (miscellany for deletion) discussion on your preferred, but disputed, version of the article in your sandbox, in line with WP:FAKEARTICLE, not in six months as I had intended to propose, but now? Then we'll get this cleared up sooner rather than later. Cheers Buckshot06 (talk) 15:21, 19 March 2017 (UTC)
- On the B-52 Crash at Kadena, it is linked to those things already (in categories--if I understand your concern but perhaps I do not) and is notable using WPs already established standards of notability -not so much for the size of the explosion, which was enormous, but for the danger it put the weapons depot in, protests, impact on reversion, removal of B-52s, nukes and chemical weapons... this was my first crash article and I'll review the policy(s). Johnvr4 (talk) 13:49, 19 March 2017 (UTC)
- Cutting straight to the chase, I am looking at primary Jan 71 DOD sources with the nomenclature, "Subject: Red Hat," "Red Hat Facilities," "This is a Red Hat Message," "(USARPAC) OPLAN RED HAT," etc.; ...not Operation Red Hat.
- Below are what I feel to be critical sources to understand the various seemingly unrelated subjects presented in the sandbox draft:
- Chemical Weapons Movement History (with additional focus on search terms Red Hat, YBA, YBB, YBF, OKC).
- Red Hat Wall St. Journal article of 18 July 1969. Also review the top 3 sources that are currently in the revived article:
- NARA. Operation Red Hat: Men and a mission (1971)
- Mitchell, Jon (2013-07-27). "Exclusive: Red Hat's lethal Okinawa smokescreen". The Japan Times Online. ISSN 0447-5763. Retrieved 2016-12-28.
- Mitchell, Jon, "'Were we marines used as guinea pigs on Okinawa?'," Japan Times, 4 December 2012, p. 14
- These are not all of the relevant sources but when you can say you read these and understand how they present the subject, come back with the WP:MFD sugg. At that point, it should be plainly obvious one which of us presents the fake (hoax) version but at least you should be in reasonable a position to make a valid argument that is consistent with our sources. If this is an example of how you are going to review sources, then we are likely in for a lot of conflict.
- Right now, the MFD suggestion is interpreted by this editor simply as your latest threat to/ attempt to separate me from the sandbox draft material I wrote apparently so you can take some type of credit for years of research the sources-ID. I am at a loss to understand your motivations while assuming good faith. There is still plenty of other wikipedia out there to improve...
- I am not a know-it-all by any stretch of imagination but this is a complicated subject that editors probably need to understand if they are going to persistently battle over material with another editor who sort of does understand it. I learned all about the subject it by writing the draft and intend to see this through. Taking advantage of that understanding would be the logical and wise solution. I've tried and failed to explain it--and especially to you. When I think the material is ready I will move it out and we can make sure it complies with all editor concerns. We need to be able to understand how those sources present this subject or we are going to have another content dispute (again).
- From your last edit, I don't think we are there yet. So please let me know the moment that we are. Johnvr4 (talk) 03:20, 20 March 2017 (UTC)
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How do you put the icons for your userrights into the upper right hand corner of your userpage? --Bigpoliticsfan (talk) 21:49, 7 January 2017 (UTC)
- I think Template:Top icon is what you're looking for? They have a few different settings there. Mark Arsten (talk) 22:24, 7 January 2017 (UTC)
WP:RFPP
Reduce to semi-protection: Only about 600 links, not exactly a high risk template. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 219.79.97.173 (talk) 15:11, 13 January 2017 (UTC)
Potential bureaucrat
I think you should request a nomination to become a bureaucrat. You would do quite well in the role. --Bigpoliticsfan (talk) 15:59, 15 January 2017 (UTC)
Suggestion
Discussion at Talk:Wind-powered vehicle
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Deletion "Baylis and Harding"
Hello Mark I hope you are well,
Over 3 years ago you deleted Baylis and Harding - a UK company who has grown in size and can be found in 1 in 2 households in the UK now and can be found talked about in a number of UK newspapers:
- http://www.dailymail.co.uk/video/tvshowbiz/video-1400265/Kelly-Brook-sent-Twitter-meltdown-raunchy-NTA-advert.html
- http://www.express.co.uk/showbiz/tv-radio/759218/Kelly-Brook-NTA-viewers-wild-raunchy-advert-Baylis-and-Harding
- http://www.independent.co.uk/extras/indybest/fashion-beauty/beauty/best-beauty-gifts-valentines-day-for-her-a6839376.html
They also have over 57,000 followers on Facebook, compared with the National Television Awards which only has 43,000, but has a Wiki page.
As this company has grown in size and notability, I would like to request for the deletion to be reversed allowing the company to appear on Misplaced Pages.
I look forward to hearing back from you!
OverByDan (talk) 12:53, 3 May 2017 (UTC)
Deletion "Atlanta Wrestling Entertainment"
On December 16, 2015, you deleted Atlanta Wrestling Entertainment - an active independent wrestling promotion in the state of Georgia.
They have a website:
They have a very active presence on Facebook that is frequently updated:
And, their shows are documented and recorded on the Georgia Wrestling History website, which counters the argument that there is no in-depth coverage: Review for most recent show (May 1st):
- http://gwhnewsandnotes.blogspot.com/2017/05/atlanta-wrestling-entertainment-report.html?spref=fb&m=1
They have 5,275 followers on Facebook and are continuing to grow. They even have an active online fanbase, with 450 active members of a Fans of AWE fan group.
The company's owner, Josh Von Wheeler, and I want to work on actively updating an Atlanta Wrestling Entertainment Misplaced Pages page, to post about the history of the promotion and its ongoing story line, so that new fans will have an easily accessible way to catch up on what the company has accomplished and what has been going on with the wrestling and story for each season. Having a manageable Misplaced Pages page will help in making the promotion more viable to prospective fans.
I would like to ask for the page to be reinstated or to have permission to begin working on a new page. Atlanta Wrestling Entertainment (AWE) is doing more, actively, than a number of wrestling promotions that actually have Wiki pages (like Family Wrestling Entertainment) and are now defunct business (FWE, by its own page's admission, closed up show in 2015).
AWE is wrapping up their third season this summer, and has been frequenting historic venues in downtown Atlanta, a metropolitan city, whereas some of the other promotions that have pages are in rural areas.
Thank you for your assistance.
Blazerushmore (talk) 14:53, 4 May 2017 (UTC)
Deletion ULMA Construction
In 14 December 2015 the Misplaced Pages entry for ULMA Construction was deleted because "The coverage (references, external links, etc.) does not seem sufficient to justify this article passing Misplaced Pages:General notability guideline"
I have written again ULMA Construction Misplaced Pages entry with reliable sources. Which is the best option to go ahead? To publish it again with the new sources? Could I show it to you so you can tell me if it's an adecuate wiki entry?
Thank you very much Ikerm (talk) 15:35, 25 May 2017 (UTC)
The coverage (references, external links, etc.) does not seem sufficient to justify this article passing Misplaced Pages:General notability guideline
Proposed deletion of Tourism in Somaliland
Hello, Mark Arsten. I wanted to let you know that I’m proposing an article that you started, Tourism in Somaliland, for deletion because I don't think it meets our criteria for inclusion. If you don't want the article deleted:
- edit the page
- remove the text that looks like this:
{{proposed deletion/dated...}} - save the page
Also, be sure to explain why you think the article should be kept in your edit summary or on the article's talk page. If you don't do so, it may be deleted later anyway.
You can leave a note on my talk page if you have questions.
Diako 17:13, 2 June 2017 (UTC)
Deletion of "Ninja (build system)"
Hi Mark, You deleted Ninja (build system) back in Aug 2013. Since then the software has gained a lot of notability. It is now shipped with Ubuntu 16.04 with Long-Term Support. Also, CMake a notable build process manager supports Ninja. Its GitHub page shows 132 contributors. (As a reference, consider that Tahoe-LAFS has 44 contributors.) Regards, Cristiklein (talk) 06:58, 16 June 2017 (UTC)
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Deletion of Sydney Wayser
Hi Mark,
I'm wondering why you deleted the page for Sydney Wayser. Please let me know how we can reverse the deletion. This is coming from her management team that can verify the information correct.
Thank you in advance.SydneyWayser (talk) 19:51, 27 July 2017 (UTC)
- That was almost two years ago, and it was deleted by community consensus after discussion. In any event, Mark hasn't been editing Misplaced Pages for over six months.--Bbb23 (talk) 20:33, 27 July 2017 (UTC)
- Bbb23, just for your info, I've replied to the query above on her talk page Jimfbleak - talk to me? 06:41, 29 July 2017 (UTC)
Five years of adminship
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Question on an old AFD
Hi, I have question on an AFD you closed a couple of years ago. You correctly closed this as delete in March 2013. However, the article that should have been deleted per the AFD still exists with a history dating back to 2012. So what happened? Why wasn't it deleted?Tvx1 00:24, 8 August 2017 (UTC)
- (talk page watcher) Mark has not edited since January, so he may not see this. The article that went through AFD and then DRV is still deleted. The version that is in the mainspace was created in a sandbox, User:Praline97/sandbox, in 2012 13 hours before the same editor created the mainspace article. The current article sat in the sandbox until Buffbills7701 moved it to Misplaced Pages talk:Articles for creation/Federer–Murray rivalry as the preferred location for AFC submissions. Enterprisey then accepted the AFC submission a couple of weeks later and moved it to the mainspace. At this point the two are similar but is it "substantially identical to the deleted version" I don't think so. If you think it should be deleted again AFD is probably the way to go. ~ GB fan 10:55, 8 August 2017 (UTC)
- Thanks for the explanation.Tvx1 18:57, 8 August 2017 (UTC)
MfD debate
At Misplaced Pages:Miscellany_for_deletion/User:Johnvr4/Operation_Red_Hat I have nominated Johnvr4's stale userpage for deletion. Regards Buckshot06 (talk) 02:31, 18 August 2017 (UTC)
Semi-protection of Jacoby Ellsbury
You protected Jacoby Ellsbury a few years back, due to vandalism from a trade rumor. Is there any need for it to still be protected? Boardg (talk) 00:06, 10 October 2017 (UTC)
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Redition of "Adrián Sosa Nuez" article? Now is possible Encyclopedical content?
Hello,
Today there are some heavy reasons to include it at english wikipedia version. Please, take a look to the spanish version.
Regards
FYI
Just a heads up that I unsalted the redirect at List of awards and nominations received by Regine Velasquez per this request. Just an FYI since you closed the applied the original protection. If you have any objections, feel free to resalt. I know you haven't been active in a while, but just a note as a courtesy in case you become active again. TonyBallioni (talk) 07:10, 19 December 2017 (UTC)
- No objection, thanks for the note though. Mark Arsten (talk) 11:44, 20 December 2017 (UTC)
Seasons' Greetings
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Jimmy Kimmel
You added pending review to the Kimmel BLP but it appears we have an active IP vandalizing the article so could you change that to semi-protect for a while? 03:17, 17 January 2018 (UTC)
Clifton Hill Community Music Centre deletion -> draft?_draft?-2018-02-06T04:08:00.000Z">
Hi, is there a way the Clifton Hill Music Community Centre could be reinstated, even as a draft page (my draft area is ok). I can add/find more references for it. I added a note on https://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Requests_for_undeletion#Clifton_Hill_Community_Music_Centre and they mentioned to try contact you about it. This collective/site was an important part of Melbourne and Australian post punk, experimental and electronic music history. It's mentioned in books and web page histories of this period. I didn't notice it had been deleted until I tried to link it from other artist pages. thanks Kathodonnell (talk) 04:08, 6 February 2018 (UTC)_draft?"> _draft?">
Deletion review for Smoky Mountain Opry
User:Yoshiman6464 has asked for a deletion review of Smoky Mountain Opry. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. —Cryptic 05:39, 2 April 2018 (UTC)
IFunny
In 2013, you deleted and protected the Misplaced Pages page for the app iFunny. I was wondering why you did this, and if you’d be willing to allow the current draft (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/Draft:IFunny) to be moved into the mainspace. I’ve worked somewhat to expand it and give the one more reason to exist. I feel that if Gab, with a tenth of the users of iFunny, has its own page, IFunny should have one. It might need to be protected from vandalism but it should still exist. JedBartlet1776 (talk) 20:17, 27 April 2018 (UTC)
Nextdoor
Hi,
You left a Talk comment about the article for Nextdoor (a long time ago!) I've written a an in-depth proposal describing my redraft of the article here: https://en.wikipedia.org/Talk:Nextdoor#Request_for_Review
Would you mind weighing in to the discussion?
Thanks,
BC1278 (talk) 21:03, 3 May 2018 (UTC)BC1278
Dolores Cannon
Please restore article about Dolores Cannon. This deletion was nothing else but pure vandalism. The author is very popular and *must* be represented on Misplaced Pages. Deletion is not her loss - it's loss for Misplaced Pages, community and the whole Internet. The article must be restored. Zyavrik (talk) 09:28, 21 May 2018 (UTC)
I 2nd this request to restore Dolores Cannon. While I have been a big believer in the GREATNESS that Misplaced Pages has been doing for the world over. I have used Misplaced Pages enough that I was even considering contributing to the Misplaced Pages Fund, but now that I see that they, Misplaced Pages, are actually deleting VERY real and accomplished people for truly frivolous reasons, i.e. a mere claim that she is "fake" without a reference to support that claim. I am now, not only not wanting to support Misplaced Pages, but I think that maybe the time has come to create a new platform that can allow people to make and post criticisms without the EXTREME action of deleting a VERY REAL, AMAZING AND ACCOMPLISH person. 173.87.39.90 (talk) 02:34, 15 December 2018 (UTC) Manuel Muro
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Could you please undelete Schuldt, to User:SMcCandlish/Incubator/Schuldt with a {{userfiedpage}}? I've already "rescued" User:SMcCandlish/Incubator/Tim Schuldt, and can merge in anything salvageable from the band article. Tim Schuldt is definitely notable, and has been cranking out industrial and techno-industrial stuff since the early 1990s, before he started doing trance stuff. The attempts to write about him here so far have been by EDM-focused editors who don't know about his earlier work and collaborations. Working on it's a low priority, but I'll probably get to it eventually. Need to find the box with my old backissues of Industrial Nation, etc. — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 13:45, 5 June 2018 (UTC)
Kate Moss
The link in the references section # 33 Rimmel Advert is incorrect and goes to some security company advertising CCTV when the correct link should be the TV Ad which is at https://youtube.com/watch?v=jeZc6hjW22c I’ve tried to edit but although it eventually said it had saved, it’s still showing the wrong link — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.19.98.75 (talk) 04:50, 23 July 2018 (UTC)
T-Rex (RC helicopter) undeletion request
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I'm surprised by the debate comments on Misplaced Pages:Articles_for_deletion/T-Rex_(RC_helicopter) and would like to check it and try to add sources to submit it. Could you restore it on my User:The RedBurn/sandbox/T-Rex (RC helicopter) page or on Draft:T-Rex (RC helicopter)? The RedBurn (ϕ) 12:18, 2 August 2018 (UTC)
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Hello, I was unaware I should have asked you first - I am requesting that Zorin OS' protection level be reduced such that Draft:Zorin OS can be accepted and moved into the namespace. Even though you've not edited for 11 months, think of this as a courtesy. HarryKernow. Talk. 05:01, 10 December 2018 (UTC)
- @HarryKernow: I think this admin is inactive so it's fine to request there =D VKZY (talk) (Mind the Gap!) 05:09, 10 December 2018 (UTC)
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Not too late, I hope ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:06, 13 January 2019 (UTC)
User:Kiefer.Wolfowitz
There is bad link which needs to be fixed. Alisdair McIntyre article is not at the link provided. The correct link is the following:
http://www.ifac.univ-nantes.fr/IMG/pdf/Texte_de_Macintyre_1977_-_Intervention_de_Vincent_Boyer.pdf
Since this user page is semi-protected, I am requesting you to rectify the dead link.
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Brooklyn Beckham unprotected
request at RfPP. Enigma 00:30, 13 March 2019 (UTC)
Possible unprotection of Udo Kier?
I've noticed that vandalism is nearly non-existent on this page, but it is PC protected. Could it possibly be unprotected? EggRoll97 09:38, 4 April 2019 (UTC)
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Hi, I am requesting that you leave a message on my talk page. A user you attempted to block and ultimately warned left some messages on User_talk:Epiphyllumlover#Disruptive_editing. I am hoping you could leave a message stating that the accusing party was known to you in 2013 to have personally harassed another user by making bogus accusations (a quick check will reveal that is exactly what happened in my case). I might add that this is not part of a currently active dispute in that I and the other editors cooperating with me have left the disputed page for a while by now (unfortunately rewarding bad behavior). Thank you for your consideration.--Epiphyllumlover (talk) 16:51, 19 June 2019 (UTC)
- Hi, I'm no longer very active (actually almost never active) on Misplaced Pages anymore so I doubt I can be much help. I would say though, that anything that happened 6 years ago is water under the bridge to me now though. My advice would be to try to take on the concerns of other users as best you can, even if you don't feel you are being treated fairly. Mark Arsten (talk) 21:54, 19 June 2019 (UTC)
- Okay. Thanks.--Epiphyllumlover (talk) 23:02, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
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Restore
Back in 2013, you deleted File:Tnaagainstallodds2006.jpg. I was wondering if it is possible to restore this image after all of this time? I'm working on the article it belongs to and it would be useful to have.--WillC 13:18, 1 January 2020 (UTC)
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Would like to connect!
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Deletion of BangDB Page - Need to revisit
Hello Mark, Greetings.
This is about 02:18, 19 August 2012 Mark Arsten talk contribs deleted page Bangdb (Misplaced Pages: Articles for deletion/Bangdb) (thank)
Noticed that BangDB page was deleted. I am trying to create a similar page about BangDB. Just wanted to know what was the content about and the reason for deletion.
For your reference, BangDB is (http://bangdb.com/) a NoSQL database written in C++. They are going to release BangDB version 2.0 anytime during march 2020. So I would request you to provide necessary information for deletion. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Analyticalthinking24 (talk • contribs) 06:07, 24 February 2020 (UTC)
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- My memory is bad but not for you! See may talk where answers about my being tell moe about that I am healthy but miss singing. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:05, 4 June 2020 (UTC)
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Hi, could you remove the protection from the page David Blaine? if was protected 7 years ago, and I dont think its necessary anymore ---Heiko Gerber (talk) 17:21, 2 September 2020 (UTC)
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Thank you for the article about "one of the deadliest Confederate guerrillas in the American Civil War, though he died by the age of 25. Anderson was a run of the mill horse thief in Kansas until his father and sister were killed by Union forces; he subsequently devoted his life to revenge. Historians have debated whether he was a consummate sadist, or merely forced to resort to violence by the times in which he lived."! - A good harvest! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:45, 26 October 2020 (UTC)
I tried to give 2021 a good start by updating the QAI project topics. Please check and correct, - not a member, but an old friend! - For moar private "happy new year" see here. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:20, 6 January 2021 (UTC)
Plastic article: your thoughts on proposed bolder edits
Hello, Mark: I've recently been doing extensive editing on Plastic (a page you have semi-protected) and have proposed several changes that will alter the structure of the article. I've posted a request for comment on the talk page, but it appears there has been little activity there. Although I feel those changes are necessary, I wanted to get some feedback before I do anything that appears radical or will negatively affect the page. Thanks for your time; it's much appreciated Brightkingdom (talk) 21:32, 7 March 2021 (UTC)
Zack Snyder
You placed Pending Changes protection on the Zack Snyder article (it would appear, without a specific expiration date) on September 14, 2013. It seems that the article has remained under the PC protection since then. Could you please unprotect the article? It has not experienced significant vandalism activity recently, and in any case Pending Changes protection is only meant to be indefinite in cases of severe long-term disruption, per WP:PCPP. Thanks, Nsk92 (talk) 21:49, 20 March 2021 (UTC)
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Stephenie Meyer
This article has pending changes protection since 2013... Maybe it is time to remove this protection? Davidhs0 (talk) 12:29, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
- Davidhs0, Mark's participation is a bit spotty at the moment, so I've added the article to my watchlist. Unless I see something bad, I'll remove the pending changes part of the protection in a couple days. If I do forget, very possible, then feel free to ping me or drop a note on my talk and I'll remove it. — Ched (talk) 14:53, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
- George Foreman is the same, Ched. I just came here to request the same of Mark, but I saw this discussion was faily recent. Sennecaster (What now?) 00:50, 10 June 2021 (UTC)
- Sennecaster, Stephenie Meyer Done .. let me know if you run into any IP problems and I'll go with semi-protect. With Foreman I'm less inclined to remove the protection, he's been a magnet for bad edits. You might ask at WP:RFPP and see what they think. — Ched (talk) 01:02, 10 June 2021 (UTC)
- Sennecaster, Stephenie Meyer
- George Foreman is the same, Ched. I just came here to request the same of Mark, but I saw this discussion was faily recent. Sennecaster (What now?) 00:50, 10 June 2021 (UTC)
- Davidhs0, Done — Ched (talk) 01:07, 10 June 2021 (UTC)
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Restoring Page for Rama Coomaraswamy
Hello,
You deleted a page about Rama Coomaraswamy in 2012 after a consensus he lack notability, citing the sources given were poor and referred mainly to his father, his being a priest was alleged, and being a priest and doctor does not meet notability and the page was written as an advertisement.
However, I think he meets notability standards as a writer/academic. He was professor of surgery at Albert Einstein College of Medicine and later professor of psychiatry. He was professor of ecclesiastical history at St. Thomas Aquinas Seminary. He wrote the book "The Destruction of the Christian tradition" published by World Wisdom and "The Invocation of the Name of Jesus: As Practiced in the Western Church" published by Fons Vitae. He was editor and wrote the introduction to "The Essential Ananda Coomaraswamy." He published in the journals the Study of Comparative Religion and Sacred Web. Related to his practice as a psychiatrist, he published in American journal of psychotherapy. He has wiki pages in Turkish, Italian, Polish, and Portuguese despite being an English-speaking American. His philosophy is discussed in the book "Writers in East-West Encounter: New Cultural Bearings" by Guy Amirthanayagam published by Palgrave Macmillian UK, "Julius Evola: The Philosopher and Magician in War: 1943-1945" by Gianfranco De Turris. He's mentioned by Carl Ernst in "Traditionalism, the Perennial Philosophy and Islamic Studies", "Present at the Creation: Documenting the Arts of India" by Lewis Rowell, "Reading the Church: William Durandus and a New Approach to the History of Ecclesiology" by Stephen Mark Holmes. Many of these sources were not available at the time. He is not notable as a doctor or priest, but I am asking to consider letting me rewrite his page as he is notable as a member/propogandist of the Traditionalist School and in SSPX (other members of these groups have wiki pages).--Zaynab1418 (talk) 02:51, 26 October 2021 (UTC)
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Dolores Cannon wiki page
How is it possible that someone so noteworthy having written 18 popular books and led countless public conferences media appearances etc is not allowed to have a wikipedia page? I feel this is spiritual/religious bias because she was a past life regression hypnotist and this frightens people of fear based religions, can you create her page please? Holy4d (talk) 14:27, 12 December 2023 (UTC)
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Alexander Flor redirect
Hi. After running into his academic work and doing a google search, I discovered that Alexander Flor was mentioned proinently in the article of Development communication#Philippines. I thought a redirect would not be so bad, since it isn't actually an article. Hoping I was not too out of line? Thanks, MistahPeemayer (talk) 09:02, 20 March 2024 (UTC)
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Hi, do you remember back in 2012, you interacted with me regarding A Free Ride? This is my new username. CometVolcano (talk) 21:03, 27 September 2024 (UTC)
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