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== Evidence submission closed for ''DangerousPanda'' arbitration case == | |||
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{{Archive-top|1=Let's leave this here. One can recognize the legitimacy of ArbCom, but there's no human being who can recognize the legitimacy of this decision. Talk about incivility, abuse of power, a failure to investigate even a smidgen of the supposed evidence. However, trials and summary execution ''in absentia'' is the lowest of the low. <small><span style="border:1px solid black;padding:1px;">]</span></small> 12:18, 26 December 2014 (UTC)}} | |||
Hi DP, the evidence submission for the case closed today, the drafting arbitrators are willing to grant a brief extension for you to rebut the evidence which has been submitted if you ask for it in a timely manner. However they intend that the case will progress on schedule. For the Arbitration Committee, <b>]</b> (] • ] • ]) 08:18, 4 December 2014 (UTC) | |||
:Hello DP. It might be in your interest to take the opportunity to respond. The evidence is significant though not open-and-shut. (The best organized summary is perhaps in the page at ]). The most significant thing (to me) is your over-the-top rhetoric in some cases, for instance . Callanecc said that you can provide rebuttal. I assume this means you can make a response at ]. I don't see much chance of progress unless you're willing to make a concession that some things you did weren't a good idea. Why not ask ] what section to respond in. It would be hard to be an admin and not make *any* mistakes. You might also make some promise on how you intend to use your multiple accounts in the future. Thanks, ] (]) 19:47, 4 December 2014 (UTC) | |||
::I haven't been involved in the case, or even really watching it, but I think it would certainly make sense for you to do what Ed suggests above. No one who has ever seriously considered being an admin, let alone anyone who has ever been one, honestly expects them to be perfect in all of their behavior. I have never gotten the impression that ArbCom tries to necessarily hold all admins to the standard of perfection. I have every reason to believe that any input you offer would be very seriously considered by the arbs and could very easily have a significant impact on their decision. ] (]) 20:03, 4 December 2014 (UTC) | |||
*Panda, I agree with Ed. ] (]) 06:21, 5 December 2014 (UTC) | |||
::: {{replyto|Drmies}} {{replyto|EdJohnston}} {{replyto|John Carter}} Oh, it has always been my intent to respond. However, even NE Ent - and Worm that Turned - knew that I was going to be away from Misplaced Pages for about a month ''before'' he filed his ArbCom case ... a little difficult to respond when I'm nowhere near a computer. Today's my first day back, and I've found a great number of surprises <small><span style="border:1px solid black;padding:1px;">]</span></small> 17:45, 22 December 2014 (UTC) | |||
**FWIW, I think it would be s shame if ArbCom felt the need for drastic sanctions against you due to the absence of a response and clarification from you. IMO you're too good an admin for the project to lose you. (I believe that even if the Evidence section is closed, you can make your points in the Workshop.) ] (]) 02:30, 9 December 2014 (UTC) | |||
* Why don't you all leave your thoughts in the Workshop? How many admin actions has DP done? Check the logs and count 'em. What percent of these actions have been criticised in the case? Is that an acceptable error rate? DP, are you so fed up with NE Ent <s>hounding</s> pursuing you that you are too <s>nauseated</s> worn down to respond? Does NE Ent have a history of <s>hounding</s> pursuing other administrators? These are all questions that should be addressed. I want to see both sides of this dispute presented effectively so there can be a fair result. Leaving the accusers to say whatever they like un-refuted is a mistake. ] <sup>]</sup> 04:13, 9 December 2014 (UTC) | |||
Hi Bwilkins, thanks for the welcome message! I requested permission to edit a semi-protected page, Tim Tebow's, and it appears to be granted but I still don't seem to have the option to edit it. I have read the Biographies on Living Persons policy and have citations for all of my claims (links to Bestseller lists, listings of the books on publishers' websites). If you could give me help with how to proceed that would be great. | |||
**Although NE Ent is, technically, an editor of Misplaced Pages, it has been a long time since he has been a '''''contributor''''' in any meaningful sense. He is, in fact, a '''''free-rider''''', using Misplaced Pages as a debating club and a social experiment for his own political and philosophical concerns. I'm sure he believes that his behavior is useful to the project in some fashion, but we have far, far too many NE Ents around here, and would do well to redirect their energies into actually '''''improving the encyclopedia;''''' if that's not possible, they should be gotten rid of.<p>One step towards redirecting them would be to start eliminating some of the large number of places which enable these folks to shirk actual editing in favor of social engineering. Another might be to institute some sort of ''quid pro quo'' whereby participation in those forums is dependent on a certain level of encyclopedia improvement.<p>Certainly, what we should '''''not''''' be doing is rewarding the free-riders' lack of value to the project by taking them seriously when they unnecessarily cause problems for editors who actually contribute to the encyclopedia. When '''''real contributors''''' disagree with other real contributors, '''''those''''' are conflicts which deserve the energy and attention of the community to resolve; when '''''free-riders''''' like NE Ent are in conflict with real contributors, they should not expect to be given the time of day, which just encourages further shirking. ] (]) 05:58, 9 December 2014 (UTC) | |||
**:Funny rant! (No bias, for sure!) The arbcase is not yet closed, NE Ent is an involved party. So why not put your $ where your mouth is and go make a proposal for sanction ("{{tq|they should be gotten rid of}}"), Mr. Big Stuff!? ] (]) 04:34, 19 December 2014 (UTC) | |||
***Re: "Mr. Big Stuff" Ouch, '''''that''''' hurt. What are you, 10? ] (]) 08:40, 23 December 2014 (UTC) | |||
== Your Arb Case == | |||
Thank you! | |||
Hey DP - It looks like you're going to lose your mop. I wanted to say that regardless whether you have the mop or not, you're still a valued editor. I don't want to see you go over losing a flag. Perhaps you weren't ready for it, perhaps the Arbs got this wrong - in either sense, you're still ''needed'' here. <span style="font-family: MV Boli;">]]</span> 23:55, 18 December 2014 (UTC) | |||
:Hell, yes. Speaking from experience here, it can be a lot easier to contribute to the encyclopedia in terms of content related matters without the bit than it is with it. Particularly with some of the new school programs and the access to databanks. I just today saw that there is actually going to be a class program related to the religion field beginning next month. Finally. That content, frankly, has been a bloody mess for years, and having some help in it will be wonderful. And the list of other school projects is a lot longer than I had thought. An experienced editor aware of the system can ultimately do a lot in those projects, or, even, just looking at the articles we don't yet have and helping build them. | |||
:Family issues can arise for everyone. Particularly if the family is close. And, honestly, this really is a particularly miserable time of year for anyone to bring anything to ArbCom. | |||
:Take off all the time for the holidays as you feel like. But I sincerely hope that you realize that in a lot of ways, particularly in directly content related matters, you can probably accomplish more without the bit than with it and having to do so many admin things. ] (]) 00:10, 19 December 2014 (UTC) | |||
It's not a requirement. But, would you refrain from using your 'alternate' account, at the case? ] (]) 17:12, 22 December 2014 (UTC) | |||
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:Also, signing your replies as "the panda" may confuse editors not "in the know". Like me. ```]<small>]</small> 17:20, 22 December 2014 (UTC) | |||
Um, huh? My alternate account is for use when I'm not at home - because at home is the only secure place where I trust being logged into that admin account. When I am at work, or elsewhere, I log into my alternate account. I've already been accused of '''choosing''' to not participate in the case, are you therefore suggesting that I refrain from participating ''until I'm back at home''? That seems counterproductive and counterintuitive, now that I'm actually ''available'' with Misplaced Pages actually being ''accessible'' to me! <small><span style="border:1px solid black;padding:1px;">]</span></small> 17:39, 22 December 2014 (UTC) | |||
The instructions do not state I have to listen to "counsel" in addtion to that the guidelines make no mention into the amount of edits one must have before applying. Please refrain from adding your biased opinions regarding my application or telling me that it will be torpedoed unless you plan on purposely doing so. --] (]) 00:30, 25 March 2012 (UTC) | |||
::TBH, I don't quite understand your reasoning. But, I'll just count that as a failing on my part & won't trouble you any further. ] (]) 14:52, 23 December 2014 (UTC) | |||
: "Biased opinions"? Yeah, I've been through RFA twice, and know what it takes to succeed on this project as a whole. Any wannabe admin who does not listen to "counsel" will never make admin; period. However, please feel free to transclude your RFA ... you'll get lots of additional counsel. Off you go (]<span style="border:1px solid black;">''' ] '''</span>]) 00:36, 25 March 2012 (UTC) | |||
*DP, regarding what and how to comment on the proposed decision my suggestion would be that you start a new level two section and comment on each of the proposals piece by piece (may a level 3 section each or however you want to format it) within that level two section. I'll put a discussion box around it so that there won't be threaded discussion within it and you can focus on the commenting on the decision then reply to others in a sub/another section. <b>]</b> (] • ] • ]) 12:50, 23 December 2014 (UTC) | |||
:* Hi DP, similar to Dusti, I hope you continue editing. In fact, I hope you regain your mop in due course. Your involvement with unblock requests will be missed. Kindest, ] (]) 07:58, 26 December 2014 (UTC) | |||
== Happy Holidays! == | |||
::Ron John appears to believe he has completed his self-nomination. Perhaps, rather than deletion, the best option would be to transclude his RFA for him and to step away? '''''] ]<small><FONT COLOR="#313F33"> and the soapdish</FONT></small>''''' 22:09, 26 March 2012 (UTC) | |||
::: Heh ... what, and be the cause of whatever unwelcome "counsel" he receives? (]<span style="border:1px solid black;">''' ] '''</span>]) 09:10, 27 March 2012 (UTC) | |||
::::It's a shame it got closed as quickly as it did. '''''] ]<small><FONT COLOR="#313F33"> and the soapdish</FONT></small>''''' 09:56, 27 March 2012 (UTC) | |||
:::::Never mind, I see it's open again. '''''] ]<small><FONT COLOR="#313F33"> and the soapdish</FONT></small>''''' 09:57, 27 March 2012 (UTC) | |||
::::::I am going to enjoy every moment of this RfA. I'm anxious to see how he responds to all the opposes particularly to my "Oh god no" comment.—] <sup>]</sup><sub style="margin-left:-3.7ex"><font color=darkorange face=arnprior>Limited Access</font></sub> 11:50, 27 March 2012 (UTC) | |||
::::::: Don't take too much joy in the discomfort of others :-) Unfortunately, my bet is that he retires angrily afterward, rather than take any of the comments constructively (]<span style="border:1px solid black;">''' ] '''</span>]) 12:00, 27 March 2012 (UTC) | |||
:::::::: And your recent post on their talkpage is 110% inappropriate: they have already stated they will NOT withdraw and want it to proceed. They have also clearly stated they will not accept any discussion about it on their talkpage - that is why it was removed, and re-adding it is therefore disruptive. (]<span style="border:1px solid black;">''' ] '''</span>]) 13:44, 27 March 2012 (UTC) | |||
:::::::::That explains what you posted on my talkpage so I'll remove it.—] <sup>]</sup><sub style="margin-left:-3.7ex"><font color=darkorange face=arnprior>Limited Access</font></sub> 13:45, 27 March 2012 (UTC) | |||
{{od|:::::::::}}Why are we putting up with this? There is no way this is going to pass and forcing it to carry on is disruptive. This is a clear SNOW closure, which I would have closed immediately if you hadn't posted a "please do not NOTNOW". I thought I'd come over here and discuss it first. RFA isn't a place for an editor review, comments do not appear to be adding new information and so there is no point in carrying it on. Would you have any objection to a SNOW closure, am happy to explain on his page. ] <span style="font-weight:bold;">·</span> (]) 14:00, 27 March 2012 (UTC) | |||
:Second that. I can't tell you how many times I was tempted to close and I'm still tempted to close but, I agreed not to do so.—] <sup>]</sup><sub style="margin-left:-3.7ex"><font color=darkorange face=arnprior>Limited Access</font></sub> 14:10, 27 March 2012 (UTC) | |||
::Looks like Tom Morris closed it. Cyberpower, I'm glad you didn't - remember you participated in it so it would be completely inappropriate for you to close. ] <span style="font-weight:bold;">·</span> (]) 14:56, 27 March 2012 (UTC) | |||
::: WTT: the editor has (in at least 5 places) said he declined a snow/not now close. I'm with you - this is not editor review, but hearing from a dozen more commenters was important. Even now he's complaining it was closed (]<span style="border:1px solid black;">''' ] '''</span>]) 16:03, 27 March 2012 (UTC) | |||
Hi DP. I'm a newbie and just learning how to communicate with other Wikipedians. I just want to wish you a happy end-of-year holiday (if you observe it) and thank you for approving my request to reverse my erroneous block. May 2015 be your best year ever! ] (] 05:14, 25 December 2014 (UTC) | |||
== wrong == | |||
== Seasonal Greets! == | |||
as a new user how am i suppose to trust someone that is violating wiki policies themselves by heeding their warnings? as i mentioned in my unblock request i stopped after a user posted on my wall that it was a violation...i understand that i have to read through the links | |||
which u posted but by you not unblocking me it seems you feel blocks are a punishment which is wrong and telling me it should take another | |||
day to read through the links therefore u will decline the request is a violation of wiki policies. blocks are to prevent further violations | |||
not punishments. | |||
] (]) 09:00, 28 March 2012 (UTC) | |||
: Blocks are not punishment. It was clear that your disruption would continue ''because'' you did not understand even the most basic of Misplaced Pages policies - THAT was protecting the project, and THAT was why I declined your unblock request (]<span style="border:1px solid black;">''' ] '''</span>]) 09:05, 28 March 2012 (UTC) | |||
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still not a good idea because while i was reading the links i could not ask questions to other editors because i was BLOCKED...the block feature not only prevents editing of articles but simply communicating with the wikipedia community and that i feel is injustice and the project was already locked for 3 days from editing i should of mentioned that. | |||
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: No, you're not prevented from asking questions or communicating. {{tl|helpme}} is still available to you when blocked. Protecting the project for 3 short days is not an injustice when someone is being disruptive. There's no time limit to improving this project - giving you an extra day to be properly prepared to edit within the guidelines is a fortunate thing for you, rather than having been indefinitely blocked from the project the first time. (]<span style="border:1px solid black;">''' ] '''</span>]) 09:43, 28 March 2012 (UTC) | |||
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you misunderstood me i meant not being able to communicate is an injustice but i meant there was no reason of keeping the block SINCE the project was already locked for 3 days so its not necessary for my block to be on...i wasnt aware of the help me feature thanks for that | |||
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: There's no way technically to prevent disruption on Misplaced Pages, yet still allow you to communicate outside of your talkpage - and trust me, there are many many times when we even remove access to that. You were afforded the luxury of continued communication, as per ], but the project was protected as required (]<span style="border:1px solid black;">''' ] '''</span>]) 10:27, 28 March 2012 (UTC) | |||
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::I suspect he means that as the article he was editwarring on was protected then his block was more punitive than preventive. ] (]) 11:48, 28 March 2012 (UTC) | |||
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== Undeletion request SensoMotoric Instruments GmbH == | |||
This arbitration case has been closed and the final decision is available at the link above. The following remedy has been enacted: | |||
Hi, | |||
{{ivmbox|1=1.1) For his violations of the standards of conduct expected of administrators, {{user|DangerousPanda}} is desysopped. He may regain the tools at any time via a successful ].}} | |||
my company has added the page SensoMotoric Instruments GmbH (it´s the name of the company) and we were asked to add URLs. Now I have the all needed links: | |||
http://blog.humlab.lu.se/2009/12/09/eye-tracking-180-people-in-three-days/ | |||
For the Arbitration Committee, <b>]</b> (] • ] • ]) 08:03, 26 December 2014 (UTC) | |||
www.emotional-engagement.com | |||
: Yeah, let me know when I actually get to participate in said case. <small><span style="border:1px solid black;padding:1px;">]</span></small> 10:19, 26 December 2014 (UTC) | |||
::Merry Christmas! ''']''' <sup>]</sup> 11:04, 26 December 2014 (UTC) | |||
http://autonomos.inf.fu-berlin.de/technology/eyedriver | |||
*Hi DangerousPanda, this is just to inform you that I have removed administrator status from your main account and from ] - the latter being in accordance with ]. Now that's out the way, I hope you've been having a decent holiday season and I do wish you the best. ] 12:07, 26 December 2014 (UTC) | |||
http://events.r20.constantcontact.com/register/event?llr=opkebjcab&oeidk=a07e57geyr3d1743bc3 | |||
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**Actually, in response to your rather obviously biased comment , I can honestly say, as someone who has been sympathetic to your situation, that the thing that virtually no one but you can consider legitimate are your rather transparent misrepresentations of fact regarding your own ability to edit and contribute to the discussion in an appropriate way at the appropriate time. Your comments, I regret to say, make it even harder for me to see anyone else ever necessarily trusting you in your statements of opinion again. Unfortunately. ] (]) 16:28, 26 December 2014 (UTC) | |||
www.eyetracking-glasses.com | |||
::: (removed from inside archived area) {{replyto|John Carter}} I cannot fathom that lack of good faith. My family does not do laptops, tablets, etc. I'd scan hotel receipts, train tickets, etc, but that would violate my privacy even more. I did not control the time my in-laws spent here - but, as the man of the house, it was my job to keep them "entertained" as per cultural patriarchy. Since culturally they don't celebrate Christmas, I could not even install outdoor lights, decorate, etc until '''after''' they were gone, so I had t odo that after they left. I had to chauffeur them everywhere, and they wanted to see as much of the country that their daughter/sister had adopted (and Canada is, after all, a big country), plus a whackload of side trips. There was no humanly-possible way for me to be online. Hell, I got to play Farmville for the first time in ages on Christmas Eve (we don't do much Facebook usually, since most of the family don't even have internet yet!) <small><span style="border:1px solid black;padding:1px;">]</span></small> 20:11, 26 December 2014 (UTC) | |||
::So you had no access to WP/chance to reply from the date the case opened (19th Nov) until it closed?! Yet you appear online about 2hrs after the verdict was given to complain about it. ''']''' <sup>]</sup> 11:02, 27 December 2014 (UTC) | |||
::: You'll want to recheck your timings. When I became available, I immediately began the process of replying to evidence, etc. Clear proof of my intent to participate <small><span style="border:1px solid black;padding:1px;">]</span></small> 11:45, 27 December 2014 (UTC) | |||
::::''Intent'' being the key word there. You then played the absentia card. Maybe all the users who thought you were a good editor would have lept to your defence? Oh, wait... ''']''' <sup>]</sup> 10:52, 28 December 2014 (UTC) | |||
* You had supported an indefinite block(when I was the subject), later on you had closed that report with a nice message and you had given me some tips. I still remember that encouragement. You were a very nice admin and your knowledge of policies was amazing. Hope you won't give up. ] (]) 07:20, 27 December 2014 (UTC) | |||
I never really knew you, but as a fellow "abusive" ex-admin from another wiki, I'm all too familiar with what you're going through and I'm sorry it turned out the way it did. Best wishes for the future. ]] 09:19, 27 December 2014 (UTC) | |||
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5u5mI6PoNkk&list=PL5429CC21E46401B2&index=1&feature=plpp_video | |||
*Hey DP. I have mixed feelings about the decision. It was kind of inevitable, which makes the case look like a show trial. I'm sure the arbs were well-intentioned, but I don't think there was any realistic prospect of it going any other way. I don't think you were the terrible admin you were made out to be by some parties, but admins are vulnerable because the good work goes mostly unnoticed. You made a few bad judgements, and you didn't always handle things as well as you could have, so it's hard to disagree with the ultimate result but it is a shame, and I hope you'll stick around and continue to do good work without the bit. I'm available if you need an admin for something. A belated merry Christmas and happy new year. ] | ] 17:12, 28 December 2014 (UTC) | |||
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjbMmc1S18g&list=PL5429CC21E46401B2&index=2&feature=plpp_video | |||
*Hi DP, I'm sorry to see that was how it went. ArbCom is a big black box to me, but for what little it's worth, I'm shocked and saddened. ] (]) 20:23, 28 December 2014 (UTC) | |||
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGzUe_UbDtc&list=PL5429CC21E46401B2&index=10&feature=plpp_video | |||
*DP, {{U|HJ Mitchell|Harry}} has hit the nail on the head and I echo all his thoughts entirely. Arbs are generally a good bunch and, if anything, they are often too lenient. When an admin gets called to book however, it's a different ball game and the Committee is under enormous pressure to demonstrate that justice will be done. It's a shame you just happened to be that scapegoat. Take care, --] (]) 23:33, 28 December 2014 (UTC) | |||
== Nomination of ] for deletion == | |||
<div class="floatleft" style="margin-bottom:0">]</div>A discussion is taking place as to whether the article ''']''' is suitable for inclusion in Misplaced Pages according to ] or whether it should be ]. | |||
The article will be discussed at ] until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines. | |||
and I do not understand why the page should be deleted. There are also other pages, which look like ours and they are not deleted yet(e.g. http://en.wikipedia.org/Tobii_technology ) | |||
Hopefully, now could be the page new created. | |||
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Sincerely <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 12:10, 28 March 2012 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
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:# Youtube or blog links are clearly not permitted | |||
:# ] cannot justify your own (]<span style="border:1px solid black;">''' ] '''</span>]) 21:33, 28 March 2012 (UTC) | |||
== Re creating page == | |||
== Request for Permission re: Use of Photo == | |||
I am musician from india,kerala.I created my wikipedia page years back.that deleted.Why it deleted ? i need to re create it now.what should i do ? <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 05:55, 15 January 2015 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
] (]) 22:16, 28 March 2012 (UTC)kmbgm469 | |||
: Normally please respond on that page, as many admins can action things, and we always keep conversations together. However, you'll note that we cannot take your word: the owners of the copyright will need to provide formal proof of valid release of copyright to ] (]<span style="border:1px solid black;">''' ] '''</span>]) 22:22, 28 March 2012 (UTC) | |||
:I'd ] and re-create it. DPanda doesn't come around much now, he's busy washing his ]. ''']''' <sup>]</sup> 19:28, 15 January 2015 (UTC) | |||
I'm sorry but I am totally confused as to how to respond to your questions. I'm also overwhelmed. How does the photographer give you proof that he has given us permission to use a picture he took of Ron Williams? ] (]) 22:34, 28 March 2012 (UTC)kmbgm469 | |||
:Due to your ] you should NOT create or directly edit any article or content about yourself. If you think that you meet ], you can ] -- ] 19:32, 15 January 2015 (UTC) | |||
: The owner of the copyright clicks on ], after first clicking on Misplaced Pages's ] rules and ]. On the OTRS page they have instructions to prove they are willing to release the images according to Misplaced Pages's requirements. Please also see the huge menu of links I provided on your talkpage (]<span style="border:1px solid black;">''' ] '''</span>]) 22:39, 28 March 2012 (UTC) | |||
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== Stub barnstar userbox == | ||
Hi DangerousPanda. I very much appreciate the ]. You're only missing one that I want to display; the Stub Barnstar. Any chance you can make that one? I'd be happy to provide a review of something or help you with some project in return for making it. Let me know. Cheers. ] (]) 11:59, 27 January 2015 (UTC) | |||
Why leave in, when it's clearly a personal attack on ] editors? -- ]<font color="#800080">☆</font>] <sup> ]</sup> 11:19, 29 March 2012 (UTC) | |||
: Because action is quite likely to come from his rant, one way or another. It's better to have the leopard show his spots so very publicly. We don't typically remove vio's of ] unless they're extremely offensive (racist, etc) (]<span style="border:1px solid black;">''' ] '''</span>]) 11:28, 29 March 2012 (UTC) | |||
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Hi BW, trying to gauge the punishment for edit warring? I have seen other users blocked for set periods of 24 and 48 hrs for sustained edit warring, so why is it that User:Gravyring has received an indefinite block for 4 edits over 4 weeks? Only 2 of the edits were the same and I believe 2 edits were attempts at gauging consensus. Also in your block denial you quoted a wiki policy that not many users are familiar with let alone new users. Do you expect new users to know all the wiki policies? I suggest you take time to review the block and perhaps be less aggressive in your request denials. This is wiki not a Battle ground as you put it.] (]) 12:16, 29 March 2012 (UTC) | |||
: There is no such thing as punishment. Blocks escalate, and are often based on mitigating circumstances. The user you note not only continually made provocative edits on an article, that article is subject to very strict guidelines due to its political nature. The additional mitigating factor was their behaviour towards others: this is a collaborative, community project: actions against that concept are not well-received - that's CORE ] that everyone agreed to when they created an account. So, a simple edit-war could start at 24 hours, escalate to 48 and so on, but add mitigating behaviours, it jumps up exponentially. You ALSO should know that ''indefinite'' is not the same as ''infinite'' - indefinite means "until the community is certain it will not recur" - as the unblock request did not convince me (and I'm one of the lenient ones), then there's no choice but to decline the unblock. (]<span style="border:1px solid black;">''' ] '''</span>]) 12:45, 29 March 2012 (UTC) | |||
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== ] == | |||
I'm sorry I never apologized for my off-the-cuff remarks a few years back when the page i tried to make for Joaquin Lievano was taken down. | |||
It must have slipped passed you but this user has restored their inappropriate user talk page. ]<sup>]</sup></font> 19:43, 29 March 2012 (UTC) | |||
I'm doing so now. | |||
== Oh noes, a legal threat! == | |||
Cheers | |||
You said this a week or so ago on a heavily edited page, so I won't find the diff, but you should know that "this is what happens when a tornado meets a volcano" made me laugh so hard that I choked on a carrot when I read it just now. If I had died, I have no doubt my family could have sued you for wrongful death. --] (]) 16:37, 30 March 2012 (UTC) | |||
: LOL ... I'll take near-choking as a true sign of approval! (]<span style="border:1px solid black;">''' ] '''</span>]) 10:14, 1 April 2012 (UTC) | |||
Nick (Nicholas Robinson, a.k.a. tonbo0422) <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 16:48, 15 March 2015 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
== Help us develop better software! == | |||
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Thanks to all of you for commenting on the ] RfC :). It's always great to be able to field questions like these to the community; it's genuinely the highlight of my work! The NOINDEX idea sprung from our ''']''' discussion; we're developing a new patrolling interface for new articles, and we want your input like never before :). So if you haven't already seen it, please go there, take a look at the screenshots and mockups and ideas, and add any comments or suggestions you might have to the talkpage. Thanks! ] (]) 16:45, 30 March 2012 (UTC) | |||
Hey, remember that ] for {{user5|Jimmy McDaniels}}? He's back as {{user5|104.12.136.213}} and violating the ban. ] (]) 02:03, 21 March 2015 (UTC) | |||
== deleted my page... == | |||
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3/30/12 I created a band paged named M3rcy and it apparently didnt meet the standards. I was wondering what I need to do to have the page up. I had references toward the band that the new band had emerged from which did have tangible references and was learning the html required to create a history to follow but the page was deleted before I could fix it. Now the new band doesn't have an album and live shows are pending but everything will be coming this year. So what do I need to make the page tangible? <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 23:43, 30 March 2012 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
I have added you to this page since you haven't edited for a few months. If you ever return, remove your name from the list. ] (] / ]) 18:52, 27 March 2015 (UTC) | |||
:{{tps}} Misplaced Pages is for articles about subjects that are ]. Articles about ] are going to be deleted as a matter of course. --] | ] 01:24, 1 April 2012 (UTC) | |||
== Crimson Alberta Ferretti dress of Uma Thurman == | |||
== Please, look into ]'s behavior and edits. Thank you. == | |||
Please userfy the talk page. I have added an additional three sources as of 2013 consensus has changed and these dress are notable per ]. Is it okay for me to restore without discussion given these changes or do you prefer DRV? ] <sup>]</sup> <sup>]</sup> 21:11, 22 April 2015 (UTC) | |||
Since you are the last administrator who left a message, which he removed twice ( and , on ]'s talk page (previously, he has used ]), therefore, I am approaching you for help. He constantly ignores and discredit all the peer-viewed sources provied by the other editors. He doesn't seem to be able to make up his mind: | |||
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Currently, he is engaged into edit-warring in the name of "expansion" without even getting consensus from the other editors who have been on that page for years. Please, looking into that. Thank you. ] (]) 22:52, 1 April 2012 (UTC) | |||
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Hi. Just to let you know that ] has copied your signature. <span style="white-space:nowrap;">—] <sup>]</sup></span> 15:16, 2 April 2012 (UTC) | |||
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After over a week of waiting, I am finally welcomed here in wikipedia! Thank you Mr. BWilkins! Talk to you soon! | |||
] (]) 09:22, 4 April 2012 (UTC) | |||
: You were welcome the moment you arrived - not everyone gets a formal welcome notice - you seemed to need some background (following your request for permissions), so I thought I'd help you out. Welcome aboard (]<span style="border:1px solid black;">''' ] '''</span>]) 16:27, 4 April 2012 (UTC) | |||
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Hi, | Hi, | ||
I know it is late, but I never thanked you for your support on the aftermath of ] and | |||
]. ] (]) 14:44, 15 November 2015 (UTC) | |||
== ] == | |||
As the section title mandates, you are abusing or incorrectly using administration powers. | |||
You have recently deleted an article, "Victim of Xen," that cites sources indicating it's significance. | |||
{{Misplaced Pages:Arbitration Committee Elections December 2015/MassMessage}} ] (]) 13:46, 23 November 2015 (UTC) | |||
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The article stated that Victim of Xen is a video game (with citations of the fact) and also stated what it has been noted for (gender-swap comments by credible third parties in further citation). | |||
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Bruskom(User) is making vandalism on the article. Greater Armenia and Turkish Kurdistan shares same area historically. I dont know the aim of the users but this users doesn't want to be known this information. Also Encyclopædia Britannica informations are always removed by this users without any reason. Please, stop the vandalizm ] (]) 00:38, 11 December 2015 (UTC) | |||
* Greater Armenia - https://www.google.com.tr/search?q=greater+armenia&biw=1920&bih=947&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwio986KyNLJAhVBWxQKHQgxC0MQ_AUIBigB#imgrc=-cBSdyVTYxbs8M%3A | |||
I suspect that you are unaware that is perfectly acceptable to have a vested interest and to contribute to Misplaced Pages (personal opinion, but I can't imagine that you would openly lie, given the administration powers). | |||
* Kurdistan - https://www.google.com.tr/search?q=greater+armenia&biw=1920&bih=947&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwio986KyNLJAhVBWxQKHQgxC0MQ_AUIBigB#tbm=isch&q=cia+kurdistan&imgrc=gSas0O3Q96I2hM%3A | |||
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You have messaged me about the changes I made to some pages as official pages / website of some indian celebrities with the reason "I didn't edit links nor is it my website. The website belongs to Shammi Kapoor who heads the kapoor family. The added links were back to his site which represents the entire family site. The links were added on the pages of the family members of the website." | |||
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I have authentication letters from all the four celebrities who have assignment me as their technical person to handle their websites and social media. I need to make this immediate changes as soon as possible. Please revert of how to do it and how can I send you those authorisation letters on a non-public forum. <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 17:21, 19 August 2016 (UTC)</span></small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
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== Official page / website == | |||
P.S. You can remove that personal comment about you lying after you read it for both our sakes, if you wish it (as long as you've read it). <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 15:25, 4 April 2012 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
: As you will have seen at least 3 times i nthe page edit notice, although I'm quite happy to politely discuss my deletions, any request that suggests I lied, abused powers, or similar will result in this request getting all of the attention it deserves (]<span style="border:1px solid black;">''' ] '''</span>]) 16:25, 4 April 2012 (UTC) | |||
The links I have edited are official sites even if they dont appear to be. i have authentication from the artists with the permission to make these changes and represent their social media. <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 05:41, 20 August 2016 (UTC)</span></small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
Hi Bwilkins | |||
== Official page / website == | |||
This is your first communication with me despite my request for assistance in account activation (circumvention). | |||
The links I have edited are official sites even if they dont appear to be. i have authentication from the artists with the permission to make these changes and represent their social media. <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 05:43, 20 August 2016 (UTC)</span></small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
Your severe action, circumvention of support, lack of communication, and inproper citation for reason as to why you deleted the article (the reason you supplied is incorrect, as the article contains real world material (digital software available online) and multiple citations from reliable sources) invites at least this reaction, does it not? | |||
:{{u|Thefinalmiracle}}, DangerousPanda left Misplaced Pages two years ago. Could I be of any help to you? ]] 15:40, 20 August 2016 (UTC) | |||
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Hi, Bwilkins. Just wanted to point out that ] is a computer game, so it doesn't fall under the narrow ] you quoted when deleting it. I'll restore it if Smolders wants me to. --] 18:48, 4 April 2012 (UTC) | |||
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Hello if there is not any problem in the page then why do you want to delete this page {{User|Khan810}} 16:34, 6 April 2012 (UTC) | |||
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Can you make an edit notice for that page up there and have it be transcluded from ]?—] <sup>]</sup><sub style="margin-left:-3.7ex"><font color=olive face=arnprior>Online</font></sub> 19:53, 6 April 2012 (UTC) | |||
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::: I don't even understand what you were trying to do - it made little sense; but I did what you asked, nevertheless (]<span style="border:1px solid black;">''' ] '''</span>]) 10:18, 11 April 2012 (UTC) | |||
::::Because I only have the power to create an edit notice for my userpage and my talk page, I need admin admin assistance for my subpages. Since only admins can create and edit editnotices for subpages, in userspace, I asked you if you could create an editnotice in mainspace for that page and have it transclude from a page in my userspace. Nevertheless, Worm did it for me.—] <sup>]</sup><sub style="margin-left:-3.7ex"><font color=darkorange face=arnprior>Limited Access</font></sub> 11:12, 11 April 2012 (UTC) | |||
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== A barnstar for you! == | ||
I am so sorry i didn't give attention while removing the deletion template {{User|Khan810}} | |||
== ] == | |||
Hi Bwilkins! This is Tristessa over from ]. I've received and declined an unblock appeal from {{user|Smolders}}, a user you blocked recently. However, I've noticed that the block reason and template you used for the indef appears to be wrong — you used <nowiki>{{UsernameHardBlock}}</nowiki>, but the block seems to have been to do with COI/spam editing (and there's a sockpuppet template on his userpage) since his username appears to be perfectly alright. For the sake of clarity to the user, I've explained this in my decline e-mail and I've reblocked as ]. Cheers, --] ] 23:44, 8 April 2012 (UTC) | |||
: Actually, his username isn't quite right. You'll notice in the only article he's worked on, he inserts his name into the infobox ... and redlinks it for future use. In that way, he does meet the original. Otherwise, it works either way. Cheers (]<span style="border:1px solid black;">''' ] '''</span>]) 13:27, 9 April 2012 (UTC) | |||
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: I have no involvement in that article, outside of an administrative capacity (]<span style="border:1px solid black;">''' ] '''</span>]) 13:28, 9 April 2012 (UTC) | |||
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I'm not exactly sure which editors who have been involved in the original discussions I should notify of this - - but rather than mistakenly leave out, I'll instead include. Regards, ] (]) 13:11, 10 April 2012 (UTC) | |||
: I still don't think ANI is the right place, as per the previous thread. ] is likely best. Thanks for letting me know (]<span style="border:1px solid black;">''' ] '''</span>]) 15:18, 10 April 2012 (UTC) | |||
== I doubt it ruined your day or anything... == | |||
...but still, I've clarified at Jimbo's talk page that my issue wasn't with anything you did, but rather the response he got on the talk page. I should have been clearer earlier, sorry. --] (]) 14:55, 10 April 2012 (UTC) | |||
: Appreciate that more than you can imagine right now :-) Sometimes it takes random messages like that - and from the user - to remind me that most of what I do is considered positive around here. (]<span style="border:1px solid black;">''' ] '''</span>]) 10:20, 11 April 2012 (UTC) | |||
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] is not policy or guideline and you're not discussing, ] is. Even if it were a policy, you're not following it yourself. You were bold in your revert but now you're not discussing. Bad form. | |||
Talkback templates are the correct way to communicate when attempting to draw the attention of another editor. I will continue to use them here and other locations despite your edit notice, particularly when you don't bother to read my edit notice indicating that I will move discussions to the articles. | |||
Sorry if I removed your talk before moving it to the correct location. --] (]) 16:14, 10 April 2012 (UTC) | |||
: You clearly horrifically misunderstand. If someone adds something, and it gets removed, someone cannot tag-team to re-add it - the discussion portion must occur for it is re-added. I'm happy to discuss my removal - but you never have cart-blanche to re-add until the discussion takes place - re-adding it twice is ] (]<span style="border:1px solid black;">''' ] '''</span>]) 16:22, 10 April 2012 (UTC) | |||
:: I'm a little surprised here, but I think you've made a slight error in judgment; since it wasn't vandalism you were fixing by removing that characterization in the first place, you were involved in a content dispute -- I think maybe you shouldn't have blocked there, but AN:3RR'd it instead. --]<sup><small>]</small></sup> 16:54, 10 April 2012 (UTC) | |||
::: I actually don't see how I was really involved in a content dispute there whatsoever. Unsourced (yet minor) addition, I removed it. Someone mindlessly reverted. I tried to speak to him directly, and he mindlessly reverted again. I'm happy to unblock him IFF they simply agree to self-revert until new consensus exists. if someone else wants to take over the block, feel free. (]<span style="border:1px solid black;">''' ] '''</span>]) 16:58, 10 April 2012 (UTC) | |||
::::Bwilkins, I agree with jpgordon here, I do not think you blocking was appropriate here. You ''were'' involved in the content dispute, so you should not be blocking the editor and demanding that they agree to self-revert to get unblocked (that appears to me to be a use of using the block tool to get your way in the content dispute). Regardless, if Walter continues to edit war over the article, then anyone my re-instate the block. - ]<sup>]</sup> (]) 18:29, 10 April 2012 (UTC) | |||
::::: Clearly, you have also misread the situation, based on the disgusting tone of your unblock. I give 2 shits about the article, and it is inappropriate for you to suggest that I was using anything "as a tool" in a content dispute. Absolutely beyond inappropriate. Un-fucking-believably inappropriate if you had even bothered to read and look at any of the background. Fuck, really - not a bad unblock, but an absolutley fucktarded comment above and unblock message. (]<span style="border:1px solid black;">''' ] '''</span>]) 18:44, 10 April 2012 (UTC) | |||
::::::I know there are some editors around here who are perfectly happy to fling swear words around and to receive them from others, but I am not one of them, so please tone down your language. I did look into the background of this case and read your comments. As you said above, you removed the addition, and Walter reverted you, you then reverted Walter (something you neglect to mention above), and he reverted you. At that point you blocked him, and then said you would unblock him if he self-reverted the article to restore it to the version that you edit warred to try and keep. Now it may not have been your intention, but that to me is undoubtedly a use of the block tool to forward your side of the content dispute. Using the block tool like this (even if you didn't realise it) will have a chilling effect on editors who are in content disputes with administrators. Clearly what I said has upset you, and I apologise for that. If there is anything in particular that offends you (which is not addressed by this message) please feel free to bring it up with me and I will try to clarify or redact. - ]<sup>]</sup> (]) 18:59, 10 April 2012 (UTC) | |||
::::::: Clearly I have attributed a level of respect towards you that was clearly undeserved. I also do not slide into invective at the drop of a hat, but in this case it's the one thing that ''is'' clearly well-deserved. Once again, in English: ''I have no preferred version''. WG edit-warred; period. My statement was clear: "self-reverting shows proof that you're communicating towards consensus instead of blind reverting". Your unblock statement, and your statement(s) above BOTH attribute a motive that most clearly '''does not exist'''. Your lack of desire to actually recognize that the messages you send that: a) edit-warring is just fine, and b) I personally have some kind of agenda speak volumes about your character. You ''never'' should have made those statements either on the unblock, nor here on my talkpage when you're obviously fucking clueless. (]<span style="border:1px solid black;">''' ] '''</span>]) 20:06, 10 April 2012 (UTC) | |||
::::::::Yes, WG edit warred, and I've never said he didn't. But so did you. Your edit warring seemed to indicate that you ''did'' have a preferred version (why else would you revert to it?). Your edit warring also meant you were involved in the dispute, and therefore had a conflict of interest. You say I'm wrong to say that you had a motive to want a particular version of that article live, but ''you edit warred to try and keep a particular version live''. So clearly you did have a motive - again, why else would you edit war over it? | |||
::::::::I fail to see how any of my actions have encouraged edit warring. If either one of us are indicating that edit warring is "just fine", it is you by partaking in edit warring. My actions, on the other hand, don't appear to have caused any edit warring. Walter has not continued edit warring after my unblock. Instead he actually went and looked for sources (which seems to be what you wanted judging by your edit summaries at the article). He discussed on the talk page (again, what you seemed to want). And also apologised to you, which you have opted to repay with scorn. | |||
::::::::Your talkpage notice says {{tq|Intelligent discussion is better than a diatribe or attack}}, this is something I wholeheartedly agree with. Please, do not leave another personal attack against me. - ]<sup>]</sup> (]) 00:03, 11 April 2012 (UTC) | |||
::::::::: Wrong, wrong, and wrong...and the fact that your brutal unblock statement remains proves you have no desire to correct your errors, even after being advised otherwise. Although, one could say I am "vindicated" on the article in that the original addition no longer stands (I was found to be correct), your disgusting diatribe against me that has no basis in reality remains both on WG's unblock, and above. As such, I'm quite welcome to continue it on this talkpage. That you have failed to change it shows your a lot about you. I was quite prepared to apologize myself this morning, but clearly you have zero desire to amend what are obviously incorrect and damaging statements. (]<span style="border:1px solid black;">''' ] '''</span>]) 08:34, 11 April 2012 (UTC) | |||
::::::::::You should know better than to use the "I was right" defence for your edit warring. Besides, on the talk page someone else managed to reach a compromise, where the addition still stands but was re-worded. What part of the unblock statement is incorrect/damaging? You weren't involved in a content dispute? Blocking Walter didn't give you the upper-hand? You didn't try to force Walter into self reverting? As I said earlier, if you can give me specific problems I can work on mending them. Now to be fair, you have given some specifics (e.g. {{tq|I actually don't see how I was really involved in a content dispute there whatsoever}}). But you haven't explained what makes you think you were not involved. You were ''edit warring'' on the article, you ''were'' involved in the content dispute. | |||
::::::::::Finally, take a look at the section below. Walter comes along and apologises, but you just can't let it drop, bringing up other problems you have with his comment on the talk page. His response is to offer to strike those comments ({{tq|Shall I strike that statement and add something better and more neutral?}}), and you respond by yelling at him about how unclassy he would be to leave the comment there, that it would make him a hypocrite, that his comment is bullshit, that he's pretending they don't exist. ''He just offered to strike them'', all you had to say was "yes please". Take a step back. - ]<sup>]</sup> (]) 10:02, 11 April 2012 (UTC) | |||
::::::::::: Oh for fuck sake, I was not trying to keep any "preferred" version, therefore I was not edit-warring, therefore I sure as fuck CANNOT be using any defence for edit-warring. Which fucking part of this to you not understand? You continue to add motive to my actions which I have clearly SHOWN did not exist. I have clearly shown you ''the other side'' of the coin, and yet you persist. Nobody NEEDS to offer to strike comments: they do it themselves based on a) their character, and b) the new information provided to them. This whole thing ''can'' go away if you re-fucking-read, and redact your own ridiculous conclusions towards something that actually fits what you now know and that does the least harm to ANYONE involved. Your motive-laden comments in the unblock request have been proven wrong, yet you persist in failing to redact, as promised. So, not only did you read incorrectly, you fail to keep your own promises. Fantastic leadership there Kingpin. This thread would have been a lot shorter if you had simply ''kept your promises'' (]<span style="border:1px solid black;">''' ] '''</span>]) 10:11, 11 April 2012 (UTC) | |||
::::::::::::So you were just editing at random. and happened to revert to the same version multiple times? That wasn't actually your preferred version? Take a look at the history of that page; you were edit warring. It doesn't matter if you had some higher motive that you are unable to share with us. You were still edit warring, and you need to accept that. But all your actions so far appear to indicate that you are unable to accept that you were edit warring (for example, earlier you said {{tq|Unsourced (yet minor) addition, I removed it. Someone mindlessly reverted. I tried to speak to him directly, and he mindlessly reverted again}}, here you mention all of Walter's reverts, but neglect to mention your revert inbetween, instead only saying that you tried to discuss with him (which while true, is not a license to then continue edit warring - Walter tried to discuss too, but that didn't make his edit warring okay)). | |||
::::::::::::I am trying to understand why you edited to restore a paticular version of an article multiple times, why you then blocked the other editor who was trying to keep a different version of the article in place, and why you then said to them you would unblock if they restored the version which you had been trying to keep live. And I don't think it's unreasonable for me to conclude that you did have a slight preference as to which version of the article was live. All you've done is screamed and sworn at me about how you didn't have any motive at all to want that particular version, but you haven't explained what your actual reason was for your actions. | |||
::::::::::::I said {{tq|If there is anything in particular that offends you please feel free to bring it up with me and I will try to clarify or redact}}. I don't see how I've broken any promises. - ]<sup>]</sup> (]) 10:58, 11 April 2012 (UTC) | |||
::::::::::::: Let me try this again, and once again in English. This is what I '''saw''': | |||
:::::::::::::* An IP added a phrase that was uncited, and was non-encyclopedic ], I don't even recall what it was without looking back. | |||
:::::::::::::* I removed it with "Remove unref'd opinion" | |||
:::::::::::::* WG reverted with "You select this one unreferenced statement to remove" which led me to believe that WG had ''thought'' I had simply chosen some random statement in the article to remove, and NOT the fact that I had simply reverted the previous addition. | |||
:::::::::::::* I approached WG directly in order to verify with WG that he had seen that I was merely reverting an addition, not simply randomly removing things as per his edit-summary. It was not to discuss the possible addition of the phrase to the article, it was to verify if he had seen the actual sequence of events. | |||
:::::::::::::* WG refused to discuss, removed my question, and reverted on the article. | |||
:::::::::::::* At that point, it was apparent to me (at the time) that WG didn't wish to discuss, and was blindly reverting. | |||
:::::::::::::* It was therefore necessary to protect the project from what appeared to be mindless edit warring, blocked, and returned the article to the original state. | |||
::::::::::::: I have said this all before, and I don't see why I need to repeat it. It shows clearly what I saw, and what I acted upon. It shows clearly the chain of events that were apparent that caused the necessity to issue a very short block. It shows clearly that I had zero involvement in the text, or the article. How many more times shall I say it? (]<span style="border:1px solid black;">''' ] '''</span>]) 11:31, 11 April 2012 (UTC) | |||
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|style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;" | I never meant to edit war and I recognize that my actions (removing a comment on my talk page before adding it to the new location) seemed suspicious, and so I offer this as a token of apology for my actions. I'm glad that the article in question is now better as a result of your persistence there. While I may have been frustrated by the situation, I hope I didn't display that or vent too much and hope that we can work together to make Misplaced Pages a better place. Thanks again for your perseverance and your tireless insistence in maintaining a high standard for Misplaced Pages. ] (]) 19:26, 10 April 2012 (UTC) | |||
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|style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;" | Hi, In 2012 you tried to help me understand how Misplaced Pages works when I wanted to add a page for someone I felt was misrepresented in the Misplaced Pages pages. I've been away due to illness for sometime, but coming back I still wasn't clear. I have reviewed the notes you made for me at that time and also have had support from the WP community. I am going to keep adding pages when I can now, as am working with people who need the help (COI clearly declared!). I just wanted to say thank you for your patience and to let you know I appreciated the time you took to try to explain. I have only created one article so far, and it has needed help but the next one I have a better understanding I think, even though I think I may have moved it not reading the words tools for reviewers:) So sorry about that. But thanks again for your help. ] (]) 21:52, 30 October 2017 (UTC) | |||
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: Having seen , clearly you're just talking out of your ass (]<span style="border:1px solid black;">''' ] '''</span>]) 20:10, 10 April 2012 (UTC) | |||
:: Not at all. I mean the gift sincerely. Just because I disagree with you and state that you're "full of yourself and that shows no class" when you misrepresent the facts to make yourself look better, doesn't mean I can't be contrite about it. Shall I strike that statement and add something better and more neutral? I'm not watching your page so talkback may be required. --] (]) 23:38, 10 April 2012 (UTC) | |||
::: I didn't misrepresent shit all and you know it. Strike your bullshit, we'll all move on. If you leave it, and we'll all know how classy you really are. Otherwise it's called being hypocritical - you can't leave your insults in place, and fix them with a cookie like the don't exist. Again, you're an editor I used to hold in respect - not so much anymore. (]<span style="border:1px solid black;">''' ] '''</span>]) 23:43, 10 April 2012 (UTC) | |||
== About ] == | |||
== ] == | |||
How was there consensus for deletion? There was: | |||
Likely should get a ''friendly word'' about tendentiousness again as he seems to be at or past 3RR at ] already (4RR in 30 hours) -- he has only recently come off a 1 month block which you imposed for tendentiousness. | |||
* 6 keeps, 4 of which were strong | |||
# 21:32 10 Apr | |||
* 6 deletes, 0 of which were strong | |||
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* 1 rename, 1 of which was strong | |||
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* 1 comment, 0 of which were strong | |||
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It seems like the page shouldn't have been deleted, due to no consensus. | |||
In each case being the first in a series of contiguous edits - he ha made on the order of 60 edits on the single article in just 2 days. Thanks. ] (]) 22:16, 10 April 2012 (UTC) | |||
By the way, I would support keeping it but renaming it to 2012–13 North American winter. ] I have no ideas for what to put here. ] 18:53, 2 January 2018 (UTC) | |||
: Making 4 reverts outside of the 24hrs is gaming the system. The nature of his other edits also include edit-warring. Escalated to 3 months block (]<span style="border:1px solid black;">''' ] '''</span>]) 23:18, 10 April 2012 (UTC) | |||
:{{ping|The Nth User}} I hope you do realize that 1) the deletion discussion was closed about 5 years ago, and contesting the deletion is pretty much useless at this point, and 2) Dangerous Panda hasn't edited Misplaced Pages since 2014. ]] 23:44, 2 January 2018 (UTC) | |||
== Nomination for deletion of Template:Unblock an == | |||
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== ] and ] == | |||
== 2012 Midi-Pyrénées shootings == | |||
Hello. | |||
Is it possible to introduce consensual changes to a protected page? What kind of discussion should I undertake when material is deleted because of ] with no explanation being provided? There has been a rather savage editing cycle on the page although I have focused on adding material as opposed to removing it.<br />Best Wishes <small style="border: 1px solid;padding:1px 4px 1px 3px;white-space:nowrap">''']'''.''']'''</small> 16:08, 11 April 2012 (UTC) | |||
Can you help as I ask for reconsideration of the recreation of two previous deleted articles, that two players now play in the Paraguay División Intermedia, so as to be fully professional sports league on Wiki. | |||
: Follow the directions. Once consensus for the change has been reached, someone may request the edit to a full-protected page as per the directions on the page. (]<span style="border:1px solid black;">''' ] '''</span>]) 16:11, 11 April 2012 (UTC) | |||
Respectfully. ] (]) 18:23, 8 April 2020 (UTC) | |||
:{{u|Rojodiablcerrocerrocerro}}, Dangerous Panda has not edited Misplaced Pages in over 5 years. You may want to create the articles in Draft space - ] and ] and go through the ] process, especially given one of them was deleted after a discussion. <b>]</b> (]) 20:48, 8 April 2020 (UTC) | |||
== Block of John Foxe == | |||
== Today's Wikipedian 10 years ago == | |||
Hi, I wanted to ask you a question about . I looked at ]'s recent edit history, and the only violation of his 1RR restrictions I could find were at ] where he ] at 13:18, and then me at 13:16 the next day after I had re-added some of Kingliam's cited additions. While this is a technical breach of 1RR (by 2 minutes) I feel both reverts were made in good faith. I later the material again with a better source (per his objection) after which John Foxe started about the reliability of my source. I personally felt like the discussion was beginning to get somewhere when the block happened. | |||
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Anyway, I was wondering if you might reconsider your block, or at least shorten it. One month seems excessive for a minor violation of 2 minutes. I'm also slightly worried because there are currently four AfD's open on articles created by John Foxe, and it would be nice if he were able to participate in those discussions. (He seems to be having a really bad day today.) Lastly, I'm embarrassed that I was involved in the edit "war" that led to his block. Thank you for your consideration. <span style="font-family:times; font-size:10.25pt">~]</span> <span style="font:9px Monotype Corsiva">(])</span> 17:14, 11 April 2012 (UTC) | |||
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: He has both violated 1RR both within 24hrs, and just outside - which is considered to be gaming the system. The length of the block was an escalation from his previous 2 week block. At some point, he'll take his responsibilities to the project a little more seriously. (]<span style="border:1px solid black;">''' ] '''</span>]) 17:24, 11 April 2012 (UTC) | |||
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you said that you should block me for edit warring. I have read ]. I'm not trying to be arrogant, but I don't see my actions to be a violation. I made one reversion and I explained my reversion on the talk page, and reminded the users about the discussion on their talk pages. When I received no response, yet the reversions continued, I reverted again, again asking the users to join the talk page, and again leaving an updated response on the talk page. I made no further reversions. But, I think you see the situation differently and find my behaviour to be edit-warring. So I guess I would like to ask you where I went wrong? What should I have done differently? Not cause I'm trying to be stubborn, but because I really don't know. Thanks,''']''' <sub>]</sub> 23:13, 11 April 2012 (UTC) | |||
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: My biggest beef with you was telling them to withdraw their complaint. They were right to file it, when and where they did. Don't dare tell them to withdraw based on your own unique take on the purpose of the board. It does take 2 - or more - to edit-war. The main 2 parties should have both been blocked; period. Even if discussion is taking place, that does not permit continued edit-warring. You appear to have been doing your own slow-edit-war, which even looked like tag-teaming at times. Your arrival on AN/3RR to lend nothing but support to a party that was also edit-warring was disingenuous. (]<span style="border:1px solid black;">''' ] '''</span>]) 23:25, 11 April 2012 (UTC) | |||
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Hello, do take a look at the notability factor now, of this page, a lot has changed. Thanks. You have protected this page. ] — ] | |||
I have even monitoring your talk page for the past couple of days and I have reason to believe that you are under quite a bit of stress. Am I correct at assuming this?—] <sup>]</sup><sub style="margin-left:-3.7ex"><font color=olive face=arnprior>Online</font></sub> 00:54, 12 April 2012 (UTC) | |||
:{{tps}} {{yo|Nuttyprofessor2016}} I don't have context for what you are asking, but I'm pretty sure you won't be getting a response from him. He's been off Misplaced Pages for 7 or 8 years. ] <small>(])</small> 01:43, 16 January 2022 (UTC) |
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Evidence submission closed for DangerousPanda arbitration case
Let's leave this here. One can recognize the legitimacy of ArbCom, but there's no human being who can recognize the legitimacy of this decision. Talk about incivility, abuse of power, a failure to investigate even a smidgen of the supposed evidence. However, trials and summary execution in absentia is the lowest of the low. the panda ₯’ 12:18, 26 December 2014 (UTC)The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
Hi DP, the evidence submission for the case closed today, the drafting arbitrators are willing to grant a brief extension for you to rebut the evidence which has been submitted if you ask for it in a timely manner. However they intend that the case will progress on schedule. For the Arbitration Committee, Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 08:18, 4 December 2014 (UTC)
- Hello DP. It might be in your interest to take the opportunity to respond. The evidence is significant though not open-and-shut. (The best organized summary is perhaps in the page at Misplaced Pages:Arbitration/Requests/Case/DangerousPanda/Evidence/RFCU). The most significant thing (to me) is your over-the-top rhetoric in some cases, for instance here. Callanecc said that you can provide rebuttal. I assume this means you can make a response at Misplaced Pages:Arbitration/Requests/Case/DangerousPanda/Evidence. I don't see much chance of progress unless you're willing to make a concession that some things you did weren't a good idea. Why not ask User:Callanecc what section to respond in. It would be hard to be an admin and not make *any* mistakes. You might also make some promise on how you intend to use your multiple accounts in the future. Thanks, EdJohnston (talk) 19:47, 4 December 2014 (UTC)
- I haven't been involved in the case, or even really watching it, but I think it would certainly make sense for you to do what Ed suggests above. No one who has ever seriously considered being an admin, let alone anyone who has ever been one, honestly expects them to be perfect in all of their behavior. I have never gotten the impression that ArbCom tries to necessarily hold all admins to the standard of perfection. I have every reason to believe that any input you offer would be very seriously considered by the arbs and could very easily have a significant impact on their decision. John Carter (talk) 20:03, 4 December 2014 (UTC)
- Panda, I agree with Ed. Drmies (talk) 06:21, 5 December 2014 (UTC)
- @Drmies: @EdJohnston: @John Carter: Oh, it has always been my intent to respond. However, even NE Ent - and Worm that Turned - knew that I was going to be away from Misplaced Pages for about a month before he filed his ArbCom case ... a little difficult to respond when I'm nowhere near a computer. Today's my first day back, and I've found a great number of surprises the panda ɛˢˡ” 17:45, 22 December 2014 (UTC)
- FWIW, I think it would be s shame if ArbCom felt the need for drastic sanctions against you due to the absence of a response and clarification from you. IMO you're too good an admin for the project to lose you. (I believe that even if the Evidence section is closed, you can make your points in the Workshop.) BMK (talk) 02:30, 9 December 2014 (UTC)
- Why don't you all leave your thoughts in the Workshop? How many admin actions has DP done? Check the logs and count 'em. What percent of these actions have been criticised in the case? Is that an acceptable error rate? DP, are you so fed up with NE Ent
houndingpursuing you that you are toonauseatedworn down to respond? Does NE Ent have a history ofhoundingpursuing other administrators? These are all questions that should be addressed. I want to see both sides of this dispute presented effectively so there can be a fair result. Leaving the accusers to say whatever they like un-refuted is a mistake. Jehochman 04:13, 9 December 2014 (UTC)- Although NE Ent is, technically, an editor of Misplaced Pages, it has been a long time since he has been a contributor in any meaningful sense. He is, in fact, a free-rider, using Misplaced Pages as a debating club and a social experiment for his own political and philosophical concerns. I'm sure he believes that his behavior is useful to the project in some fashion, but we have far, far too many NE Ents around here, and would do well to redirect their energies into actually improving the encyclopedia; if that's not possible, they should be gotten rid of.
One step towards redirecting them would be to start eliminating some of the large number of places which enable these folks to shirk actual editing in favor of social engineering. Another might be to institute some sort of quid pro quo whereby participation in those forums is dependent on a certain level of encyclopedia improvement.
Certainly, what we should not be doing is rewarding the free-riders' lack of value to the project by taking them seriously when they unnecessarily cause problems for editors who actually contribute to the encyclopedia. When real contributors disagree with other real contributors, those are conflicts which deserve the energy and attention of the community to resolve; when free-riders like NE Ent are in conflict with real contributors, they should not expect to be given the time of day, which just encourages further shirking. BMK (talk) 05:58, 9 December 2014 (UTC)
- Funny rant! (No bias, for sure!) The arbcase is not yet closed, NE Ent is an involved party. So why not put your $ where your mouth is and go make a proposal for sanction ("
they should be gotten rid of
"), Mr. Big Stuff!? Ihardlythinkso (talk) 04:34, 19 December 2014 (UTC)
- Re: "Mr. Big Stuff" Ouch, that hurt. What are you, 10? BMK (talk) 08:40, 23 December 2014 (UTC)
- Funny rant! (No bias, for sure!) The arbcase is not yet closed, NE Ent is an involved party. So why not put your $ where your mouth is and go make a proposal for sanction ("
- Although NE Ent is, technically, an editor of Misplaced Pages, it has been a long time since he has been a contributor in any meaningful sense. He is, in fact, a free-rider, using Misplaced Pages as a debating club and a social experiment for his own political and philosophical concerns. I'm sure he believes that his behavior is useful to the project in some fashion, but we have far, far too many NE Ents around here, and would do well to redirect their energies into actually improving the encyclopedia; if that's not possible, they should be gotten rid of.
Your Arb Case
Hey DP - It looks like you're going to lose your mop. I wanted to say that regardless whether you have the mop or not, you're still a valued editor. I don't want to see you go over losing a flag. Perhaps you weren't ready for it, perhaps the Arbs got this wrong - in either sense, you're still needed here. Dusti 23:55, 18 December 2014 (UTC)
- Hell, yes. Speaking from experience here, it can be a lot easier to contribute to the encyclopedia in terms of content related matters without the bit than it is with it. Particularly with some of the new school programs and the access to databanks. I just today saw that there is actually going to be a class program related to the religion field beginning next month. Finally. That content, frankly, has been a bloody mess for years, and having some help in it will be wonderful. And the list of other school projects is a lot longer than I had thought. An experienced editor aware of the system can ultimately do a lot in those projects, or, even, just looking at the articles we don't yet have and helping build them.
- Family issues can arise for everyone. Particularly if the family is close. And, honestly, this really is a particularly miserable time of year for anyone to bring anything to ArbCom.
- Take off all the time for the holidays as you feel like. But I sincerely hope that you realize that in a lot of ways, particularly in directly content related matters, you can probably accomplish more without the bit than with it and having to do so many admin things. John Carter (talk) 00:10, 19 December 2014 (UTC)
It's not a requirement. But, would you refrain from using your 'alternate' account, at the case? GoodDay (talk) 17:12, 22 December 2014 (UTC)
- Also, signing your replies as "the panda" may confuse editors not "in the know". Like me. ```Buster Seven Talk 17:20, 22 December 2014 (UTC)
Um, huh? My alternate account is for use when I'm not at home - because at home is the only secure place where I trust being logged into that admin account. When I am at work, or elsewhere, I log into my alternate account. I've already been accused of choosing to not participate in the case, are you therefore suggesting that I refrain from participating until I'm back at home? That seems counterproductive and counterintuitive, now that I'm actually available with Misplaced Pages actually being accessible to me! the panda ɛˢˡ” 17:39, 22 December 2014 (UTC)
- TBH, I don't quite understand your reasoning. But, I'll just count that as a failing on my part & won't trouble you any further. GoodDay (talk) 14:52, 23 December 2014 (UTC)
- DP, regarding what and how to comment on the proposed decision my suggestion would be that you start a new level two section and comment on each of the proposals piece by piece (may a level 3 section each or however you want to format it) within that level two section. I'll put a discussion box around it so that there won't be threaded discussion within it and you can focus on the commenting on the decision then reply to others in a sub/another section. Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 12:50, 23 December 2014 (UTC)
- Hi DP, similar to Dusti, I hope you continue editing. In fact, I hope you regain your mop in due course. Your involvement with unblock requests will be missed. Kindest, PhilKnight (talk) 07:58, 26 December 2014 (UTC)
Happy Holidays!
Hi DP. I'm a newbie and just learning how to communicate with other Wikipedians. I just want to wish you a happy end-of-year holiday (if you observe it) and thank you for approving my request to reverse my erroneous block. May 2015 be your best year ever! EdnaClyde (talk 05:14, 25 December 2014 (UTC)
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Misplaced Pages:Arbitration/Requests/Case/DangerousPanda closed
This arbitration case has been closed and the final decision is available at the link above. The following remedy has been enacted:
1.1) For his violations of the standards of conduct expected of administrators, DangerousPanda (talk · contribs) is desysopped. He may regain the tools at any time via a successful request for adminship.
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- Yeah, let me know when I actually get to participate in said case. the panda ₯’ 10:19, 26 December 2014 (UTC)
- Merry Christmas! Lugnuts 11:04, 26 December 2014 (UTC)
- Hi DangerousPanda, this is just to inform you that I have removed administrator status from your main account and from 7SeriesBOT - the latter being in accordance with the bot policy. Now that's out the way, I hope you've been having a decent holiday season and I do wish you the best. Acalamari 12:07, 26 December 2014 (UTC)
- Actually, in response to your rather obviously biased comment here, I can honestly say, as someone who has been sympathetic to your situation, that the thing that virtually no one but you can consider legitimate are your rather transparent misrepresentations of fact regarding your own ability to edit and contribute to the discussion in an appropriate way at the appropriate time. Your comments, I regret to say, make it even harder for me to see anyone else ever necessarily trusting you in your statements of opinion again. Unfortunately. John Carter (talk) 16:28, 26 December 2014 (UTC)
- (removed from inside archived area) @John Carter: I cannot fathom that lack of good faith. My family does not do laptops, tablets, etc. I'd scan hotel receipts, train tickets, etc, but that would violate my privacy even more. I did not control the time my in-laws spent here - but, as the man of the house, it was my job to keep them "entertained" as per cultural patriarchy. Since culturally they don't celebrate Christmas, I could not even install outdoor lights, decorate, etc until after they were gone, so I had t odo that after they left. I had to chauffeur them everywhere, and they wanted to see as much of the country that their daughter/sister had adopted (and Canada is, after all, a big country), plus a whackload of side trips. There was no humanly-possible way for me to be online. Hell, I got to play Farmville for the first time in ages on Christmas Eve (we don't do much Facebook usually, since most of the family don't even have internet yet!) the panda ₯’ 20:11, 26 December 2014 (UTC)
- So you had no access to WP/chance to reply from the date the case opened (19th Nov) until it closed?! Yet you appear online about 2hrs after the verdict was given to complain about it. Lugnuts 11:02, 27 December 2014 (UTC)
- You'll want to recheck your timings. When I became available, I immediately began the process of replying to evidence, etc. Clear proof of my intent to participate the panda ₯’ 11:45, 27 December 2014 (UTC)
- Intent being the key word there. You then played the absentia card. Maybe all the users who thought you were a good editor would have lept to your defence? Oh, wait... Lugnuts 10:52, 28 December 2014 (UTC)
- You'll want to recheck your timings. When I became available, I immediately began the process of replying to evidence, etc. Clear proof of my intent to participate the panda ₯’ 11:45, 27 December 2014 (UTC)
- You had supported an indefinite block(when I was the subject), later on you had closed that report with a nice message and you had given me some tips. I still remember that encouragement. You were a very nice admin and your knowledge of policies was amazing. Hope you won't give up. Bladesmulti (talk) 07:20, 27 December 2014 (UTC)
I never really knew you, but as a fellow "abusive" ex-admin from another wiki, I'm all too familiar with what you're going through and I'm sorry it turned out the way it did. Best wishes for the future. ekips39 09:19, 27 December 2014 (UTC)
- Hey DP. I have mixed feelings about the decision. It was kind of inevitable, which makes the case look like a show trial. I'm sure the arbs were well-intentioned, but I don't think there was any realistic prospect of it going any other way. I don't think you were the terrible admin you were made out to be by some parties, but admins are vulnerable because the good work goes mostly unnoticed. You made a few bad judgements, and you didn't always handle things as well as you could have, so it's hard to disagree with the ultimate result but it is a shame, and I hope you'll stick around and continue to do good work without the bit. I'm available if you need an admin for something. A belated merry Christmas and happy new year. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 17:12, 28 December 2014 (UTC)
- Hi DP, I'm sorry to see that was how it went. ArbCom is a big black box to me, but for what little it's worth, I'm shocked and saddened. Yngvadottir (talk) 20:23, 28 December 2014 (UTC)
- DP, Harry has hit the nail on the head and I echo all his thoughts entirely. Arbs are generally a good bunch and, if anything, they are often too lenient. When an admin gets called to book however, it's a different ball game and the Committee is under enormous pressure to demonstrate that justice will be done. It's a shame you just happened to be that scapegoat. Take care, --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 23:33, 28 December 2014 (UTC)
Nomination of Heather Morris (voice actress) for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Heather Morris (voice actress) is suitable for inclusion in Misplaced Pages according to Misplaced Pages's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.The article will be discussed at Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Heather Morris (voice actress) until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.
Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. LADY LOTUS • TALK 15:19, 14 January 2015 (UTC)
Re creating page
I am musician from india,kerala.I created my wikipedia page years back.that deleted.Why it deleted ? i need to re create it now.what should i do ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sanoop robert (talk • contribs) 05:55, 15 January 2015 (UTC)
- I'd be bold and re-create it. DPanda doesn't come around much now, he's busy washing his socks. Lugnuts 19:28, 15 January 2015 (UTC)
- Due to your conflict of interest you should NOT create or directly edit any article or content about yourself. If you think that you meet the minimum criteria for a stand alone article, you can request that someone make it for you. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 19:32, 15 January 2015 (UTC)
Stub barnstar userbox
Hi DangerousPanda. I very much appreciate the barnstar user boxes you made. You're only missing one that I want to display; the Stub Barnstar. Any chance you can make that one? I'd be happy to provide a review of something or help you with some project in return for making it. Let me know. Cheers. Freikorp (talk) 11:59, 27 January 2015 (UTC)
Sorry
Montreal, Mar 15. 2015
Hi
I'm sorry I never apologized for my off-the-cuff remarks a few years back when the page i tried to make for Joaquin Lievano was taken down.
I'm doing so now.
Cheers
Nick (Nicholas Robinson, a.k.a. tonbo0422) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tonbo0422 (talk • contribs) 16:48, 15 March 2015 (UTC)
Jason Leopold
Hey, remember that topic ban for Jimmy McDaniels (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log)? He's back as 104.12.136.213 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log) and violating the ban. Skyerise (talk) 02:03, 21 March 2015 (UTC)
WP:Missing Wikipedians
I have added you to this page since you haven't edited for a few months. If you ever return, remove your name from the list. Snuggums (talk / edits) 18:52, 27 March 2015 (UTC)
Crimson Alberta Ferretti dress of Uma Thurman
Please userfy the talk page. I have added an additional three sources as of 2013 consensus has changed and these dress are notable per Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Silver Giorgio Armani dress of Cate Blanchett. Is it okay for me to restore without discussion given these changes or do you prefer DRV? Valoem 21:11, 22 April 2015 (UTC)
Invitation
I'd like to invite you to join the WikiProject R&B and Soul Music. We are currently on demand for new members, the project was dying, but with your help we can revive it and make it one of the best WikiProjects. Make me sure that you'll think about this and remember cooperative works can do amazing things. Regards Dfrr (talk) 19:14, 30 April 2015 (UTC) |
Wikipedians by degree
Hi, Category:Wikipedians by degree is a container cat (subcats only). Please consider a more specific subcat if you wish to categorize User:DangerousPanda. Thanks, Slivicon (talk) 18:25, 4 August 2015 (UTC)
MfD nomination of User:Gregaga
User:Gregaga, a page you substantially contributed to, has been nominated for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Misplaced Pages:Miscellany for deletion/User:Gregaga and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~). You are free to edit the content of User:Gregaga during the discussion but should not remove the miscellany for deletion template from the top of the page; such a removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. Whpq (talk) 12:16, 11 September 2015 (UTC)
Belated thanks
Hi, I know it is late, but I never thanked you for your support on the aftermath of Criticism of Nortel and the Nortel deleted wikiproject. Ottawahitech (talk) 14:44, 15 November 2015 (UTC)
ArbCom elections are now open!
Hi,
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Turkish Kurdistan
Hi, Bruskom(User) is making vandalism on the article. Greater Armenia and Turkish Kurdistan shares same area historically. I dont know the aim of the users but this users doesn't want to be known this information. Also Encyclopædia Britannica informations are always removed by this users without any reason. Please, stop the vandalizm Antmqr (talk) 00:38, 11 December 2015 (UTC)
- Greater Armenia - https://www.google.com.tr/search?q=greater+armenia&biw=1920&bih=947&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwio986KyNLJAhVBWxQKHQgxC0MQ_AUIBigB#imgrc=-cBSdyVTYxbs8M%3A
- Kurdistan - https://www.google.com.tr/search?q=greater+armenia&biw=1920&bih=947&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwio986KyNLJAhVBWxQKHQgxC0MQ_AUIBigB#tbm=isch&q=cia+kurdistan&imgrc=gSas0O3Q96I2hM%3A
Greyhound-Syfa listed at Redirects for discussion
An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Greyhound-Syfa. Since you had some involvement with the Greyhound-Syfa redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion if you have not already done so. Aoidh (talk) 09:10, 27 February 2016 (UTC)
Official page / website
You have messaged me about the changes I made to some pages as official pages / website of some indian celebrities with the reason "I didn't edit links nor is it my website. The website belongs to Shammi Kapoor who heads the kapoor family. The added links were back to his site which represents the entire family site. The links were added on the pages of the family members of the website."
I have authentication letters from all the four celebrities who have assignment me as their technical person to handle their websites and social media. I need to make this immediate changes as soon as possible. Please revert of how to do it and how can I send you those authorisation letters on a non-public forum. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Thefinalmiracle (talk • contribs) 17:21, 19 August 2016 (UTC)
Official page / website
The links I have edited are official sites even if they dont appear to be. i have authentication from the artists with the permission to make these changes and represent their social media. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Thefinalmiracle (talk • contribs) 05:41, 20 August 2016 (UTC)
Official page / website
The links I have edited are official sites even if they dont appear to be. i have authentication from the artists with the permission to make these changes and represent their social media. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Thefinalmiracle (talk • contribs) 05:43, 20 August 2016 (UTC)
- Thefinalmiracle, DangerousPanda left Misplaced Pages two years ago. Could I be of any help to you? Zero 15:40, 20 August 2016 (UTC)
Bots Newsletter, April 2017
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Since you've been inactive since 2014, I've removed you from the subscription list. Feel free to re-add yourself to the newsletter if you become active again though. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 23:38, 12 April 2017 (UTC)
Nomination of Pocomail for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Pocomail is suitable for inclusion in Misplaced Pages according to Misplaced Pages's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.The article will be discussed at Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Pocomail until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.
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A barnstar for you!
The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar | |
Hi, In 2012 you tried to help me understand how Misplaced Pages works when I wanted to add a page for someone I felt was misrepresented in the Misplaced Pages pages. I've been away due to illness for sometime, but coming back I still wasn't clear. I have reviewed the notes you made for me at that time and also have had support from the WP community. I am going to keep adding pages when I can now, as am working with people who need the help (COI clearly declared!). I just wanted to say thank you for your patience and to let you know I appreciated the time you took to try to explain. I have only created one article so far, and it has needed help but the next one I have a better understanding I think, even though I think I may have moved it not reading the words tools for reviewers:) So sorry about that. But thanks again for your help. Ackee123 (talk) 21:52, 30 October 2017 (UTC) |
About your deletion of 2012-13 U.S. winter storm season
How was there consensus for deletion? There was:
- 6 keeps, 4 of which were strong
- 6 deletes, 0 of which were strong
- 1 rename, 1 of which was strong
- 1 comment, 0 of which were strong
It seems like the page shouldn't have been deleted, due to no consensus. By the way, I would support keeping it but renaming it to 2012–13 North American winter. The N User I have no ideas for what to put here. Care to differ or discuss? 18:53, 2 January 2018 (UTC)
- @The Nth User: I hope you do realize that 1) the deletion discussion was closed about 5 years ago, and contesting the deletion is pretty much useless at this point, and 2) Dangerous Panda hasn't edited Misplaced Pages since 2014. SkyWarrior 23:44, 2 January 2018 (UTC)
Nomination for deletion of Template:Unblock an
Template:Unblock an has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Zackmann (/What I been doing) 19:48, 7 March 2019 (UTC)
Marcos Caballero and Lelo Sejean
Hello. Can you help as I ask for reconsideration of the recreation of two previous deleted articles, that two players now play in the Paraguay División Intermedia, so as to be fully professional sports league on Wiki. Respectfully. Rojodiablcerrocerrocerro (talk) 18:23, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
- Rojodiablcerrocerrocerro, Dangerous Panda has not edited Misplaced Pages in over 5 years. You may want to create the articles in Draft space - Draft:Marcos Caballero and Draft:Lelo Sejean and go through the WP:AFC process, especially given one of them was deleted after a discussion. Ravensfire (talk) 20:48, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
Today's Wikipedian 10 years ago
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Nomination of Ontario Country Performer and Fan Association for deletion
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JayJay 02:27, 17 January 2021 (UTC)Draft: Vaibhav Maloo
Hello, do take a look at the notability factor now, of this page, a lot has changed. Thanks. You have protected this page. User:DangerousPanda — User :Nuttyprofessor2016
- (talk page stalker) @Nuttyprofessor2016: I don't have context for what you are asking, but I'm pretty sure you won't be getting a response from him. He's been off Misplaced Pages for 7 or 8 years. Toddst1 (talk) 01:43, 16 January 2022 (UTC)