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| |style="vertical-align: middle; border-top: 1px solid gray;" | I hereby award ''The Original Barnstar'' to Keithbob for particularly fine and diligent editing at the ] article. Keep up the good work. :) <font face="Trebuchet MS"><b>— ]</b><sup><i>]</i></sup></font> 12:22, 4 October 2008 (UTC) | |||
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| Thanks Neuro for your support and Barnstar Award. I am flattered. Keithbob --] (]) 12:01, 5 October 2008 (UTC) | |||
| == Help with HubSpot == | |||
| Thanks for your comments and editing the article.--] (]) 03:05, 8 October 2008 (UTC) | |||
| Hi, Keithbob! Hope you are well and don't mind my reaching out to you. I see that you've been offline a bit recently, so am dropping a note here in the hopes it reaches you. Previously, you'd a series of constructive edits to ] and I'm wondering if you could give three edit HubSpot-related edit requests of mine a second review? All three were declined recently by an editor going through the edit request queue, but that editor has not responded to my responses to him. | |||
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| *]: Requesting the addition of a subsection HubSpot CRM Free | |||
| *]: Requesting the addition of HubSpot CRM Free to the tables | |||
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| I have seen your many contributions in finance. I am curious - are you affiliated with a financial publication or organization?--] (]) 02:18, 9 February 2009 (UTC) | |||
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| :No I am not affiliated with any financial org or mag, I'm just a regular Joe like you! --] (]) 03:47, 16 February 2009 (UTC) | |||
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| :: But I noticed that you are precious only four years ago ;) --] (]) 22:18, 22 January 2018 (UTC) | |||
| ::: OK, then it is my 4th anniversary of being precious!! Thank you! :-) --<span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS,sans -serif"> — ] • ] • </span> 22:26, 22 January 2018 (UTC) | |||
| :::: Six years now! --] (]) 07:15, 22 January 2020 (UTC) | |||
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| * Generally speaking Wiki likes to preserve content. So an editor should have a pretty good reason for deleting a sentence or section from an article. This generally makes the burden of proof, so to speak, with the editor who wants to delete. Usually when I delete something I cite a Wiki policy as my reason in the Edit Summary box. For example: "Removed self promoting sentence see WP:POV see also talk page". My use of that Wiki policy can still be disputed but it puts me on pretty solid ground to start. If it's an article where other editors are active I will then make an entry on the talk page saying what I did and why. This shows I am being up front with my edits and I'm a team player. | |||
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| ==Edits== | |||
| Please see ]. ''''']''''' 02:02, 9 July 2009 (UTC) | |||
| == ''Ursa Major'' == | |||
| Hey Kbob, just wanted to take a moment and say thanks for the help and insight you've provided regarding the '']'' page. It seems your presence has helped keep things from getting out of control. Though I've always tried to stick to official, verifiable sources, your input has been a reminder to me to keep a careful eye on information that's included in articles. ] (]) 21:00, 10 July 2009 (UTC) | |||
| Happy that I could help.--] (]) 11:55, 11 July 2009 (UTC) | |||
| ==Palin Ancestry== | |||
| Hi Kbob, | |||
| Is the correct process to start a dialogue on the Palin talk or to engage the specific party? I want to start moving forward on this issue Thanks, --] (]) 23:10, 12 July 2009 (UTC) | |||
| Hi Dranster, If you want to communicate to a particular editor then best to do it on his user page but be careful as it could get confrontational, and that's not good. However, if you are concerned about something in the article then bring it up on the talk page of the article so that all the editors can give their input and you can avoid a one on one disagreement that doesn't go anywhere. The Palin article has several strong, experienced editors so that's a great place to bring up stuff about the article. Just remember that talk page discussion is always about the article content and not about the behavior of an editor. If you have an issue with an editors behavior than that can be brought up to administration but through a whole different method and I don't think you need or want to do that. I hope that's the info you needed.--] (]) 12:28, 14 July 2009 (UTC) | |||
| == TM article - recent edits == | |||
| Kbob, just wanted to say it is a pleasure working on this with you at the moment. I think this maybe the way to edit: quick and to the point with both of is making sure the edit reflects the sources and neither of us accidentally incorporate weasel wording, POV, etc. And also, logically and without "temper" This is a genuine compliant. Thank you. Perhaps, we might try addressing the Otis study in the same manner? Although, I have to leave home now would be happy to do so later ] (]) 16:27, 1 August 2009 (UTC) | |||
| ==COIN== | |||
| And, this involves ] how, exactly? ] (]) | |||
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| Sure, you can strike it through or just add a notice that you've posted at the Admins' Noticeboard and that you will pursue the matter there instead. Or do both if you want. I personally don't know how much success you'll have there. You've stated, "Fladrif has engaged in a continued pattern of disruptive behavior." I read into that, that your intention is to show that Fladrif is a disruptive editor which is appropriate for that noticeboard. I'm not an administrator but I ''think'' that they might see your evidence as showing a content dispute, and might recommend going through ]. That can be a long process with many steps that could eventually lead to the ArbCom. ArbCom could bring sanctions against Fladrif such as topic-bans or an extended block, but it's really slow, and you need to exhaust everything else at ] first. | |||
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| :These are all good points. Thanks for your help.--] (]) 19:50, 11 August 2009 (UTC) | |||
| == Re:Customize User Name == | |||
| I had some help at first, see my ] for some tips from the super-awesome ]. Basically, though, my best advice is to look at a signature you like and look at the code used to produce it (one way to do that is to edit a section that an editor signed where it shows the plain text of the signature). Then "tweak" it however you like. If you use HTML color codes, there's a ] that will help you figure out what code goes with what color. What I specifically did in my signature was to make each letter of my username a progressively darker blue, until the last letter was almost black. Then the link to my talk page is just the color black, with a superscript markup. I used to have it be red fading to black but I noticed too many other people doing the same thing, plus the red was garish. -- ''']]''' 18:52, 14 August 2009 (UTC) | |||
| Thanks! --] 20:36, 14 August 2009 (UTC) | |||
| == Re: Award == | |||
| Thank you Kbob. I appreciate the award, it means a lot to me. :) | |||
| Just an FYI, it looks like your signature isn't pointing to the correct user page anymore. I think it needs to point to your actual account name in front of the pipes "|" to redirect people to your proper page, it's currently trying to go to User:Kbob which doesn't exist. | |||
| Right now it says: | |||
| <nowiki>]]</nowiki> | |||
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| When it should probably say: | |||
| <nowiki>]]</nowiki> | |||
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| Just wanted to let you know, thanks again! -- ''']]''' 04:40, 17 August 2009 (UTC) | |||
| --]] 14:36, 15 August 2009 (UTC) 18:06, 17 August 2009 (UTC) | |||
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| --]] 18:19, 17 August 2009 (UTC) | |||
| --<span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> — ] • ] • </span> 18:27, 17 August 2009 (UTC) | |||
| --<span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> — ] </span> 18:30, 17 August 2009 (UTC) | |||
| :Just an FYI, the reason your chat link doesn't work is because you are testing the signature on your talk page. If you test the signature on your user page, for example, you'll see that the chat link will work (but the other link that goes to your user page won't work, naturally). I should have warned you about this and I had meant to, but forgot, because I ran into this exact same problem when I was trying to customize my signature. Sorry about that! -- ''']]''' 18:49, 17 August 2009 (UTC) | |||
| == 4000+ Edits == | |||
| Now I see how you managed to get 4000+ edits so quickly. ] (]) 20:36, 18 August 2009 (UTC) | |||
| :Hi Fladrif, yes the diff you have cited is my rather crude method for getting a URL to come up for a specific section on a page. If you know of a more efficient way to accomplish this, I'd be happy to hear it. I'm always learning new things about Wiki. As for my 4,000 edits in one year I am very proud of them and stand by my work. I congratulate you on your service badges as well. Thanks for visiting my user page! Keithbob --<span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> — ] • ] • </span> 13:06, 19 August 2009 (UTC) | |||
| ::Interesting. I had no idea that worked, and no, I don't know of another way to do it. And, I was just pulling your leg. You have certainly been diligent and industrious here. Congratulations and well done. ] (]) 14:45, 19 August 2009 (UTC) | |||
| == Re: Resolved template == | |||
| {{Template:resolved|Answered Kbob's question. -- ''']]''' 19:02, 21 August 2009 (UTC)}} | |||
| Hi Kbob, that template is totally generic. Check out the details ], where it says, ''"The purpose of the "resolved" tag is to give a visual hint to readers of talk page items, making it easier to ignore already-resolved issues. Also, it is hoped that the existence of such a tag will encourage the resolution of items on a talk page."'' I've seen it used all the time on various talk pages. As you can see on the template's page the idea you have for using it is exactly why it was created. -- ''']]''' 19:02, 21 August 2009 (UTC) | |||
| :Atama is a Japanese word that means "head". In real life my last name is "Head". I studied the Japanese language for 3 years in high school, and other students nicknamed me "Atama-san" in those classes, so I often use it as an alias when online. The kanji symbol I'm using now in the talkpage link in my signature means "head" in Japanese. It's funny that you're the first person to ever ask me that. -- ''']]''' 20:51, 21 August 2009 (UTC) | |||
| ::Way cool Atama-san. I don't know much about the Japanese culture excpet what I learned reading James Clavell. Great writer! Thanks for the insight.--<span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> — ] • ] • </span> 21:07, 21 August 2009 (UTC) | |||
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| Thanks Kbobb. I have noted this on the TM Talk Page. --] (]) 15:19, 25 August 2009 (UTC) | |||
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| :I just noticed that you haven't been around in quite a while Keithbob. I hope you are well and are just busy with life. <span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:#800080;">]</span> <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">] ]</sup> 00:54, 8 July 2021 (UTC) | |||
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| Thanks for your note. I've posted a comment on Fladrif's user page. I'm not sure what to make of your comment about allies. Who are your allies? <b>] ] </b> 21:37, 17 October 2009 (UTC) | |||
| :Hi Will thanks for making a comment on Fladrif's user page regarding his un-civil remarks on the talk page.--<span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> — ] • ] • </span> 21:41, 17 October 2009 (UTC) | |||
| ::And in regard to the "allies"? <b>] ] </b> 21:58, 17 October 2009 (UTC) | |||
| :::My original post on your user page, to which you are alluding, was very straightforward. I don't think it needs any further discussion--<span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> — ] • ] • </span> 00:12, 18 October 2009 (UTC) | |||
| ::::It's not clear to me. You seem to be accusing me of being in an alliance with another editor. If there alliances then I assume you are in one too. If there aren't alliances, or if you're not willing to talk abot your own allies, then I don't think it's helpful for you to make that charge. Please either withdraw the charge or list the editors to whom you are allied, so we can figure out what alliances are at work. <b>] ] </b> 01:15, 18 October 2009 (UTC) | |||
| :::::My alliance is with you. And not only you but every editor on Wiki who follows Wiki guidelines and policies and uses their common sense and best intentions to work together and create the best possible 💕. Don't you feel that way too?--<span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> — ] • ] • </span> 12:14, 19 October 2009 (UTC) | |||
| ::::::That's a lovely sentiment. I'm glad you think of Fladrif as your ally as well as mine. That wasn't clear from your comment. <b>] ] </b> 00:54, 20 October 2009 (UTC) | |||
| :::::::Yes we are all allies. Peace! --<span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> — ] • ] • </span> 01:24, 20 October 2009 (UTC) | |||
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| Hi, Keithbob. Regarding the tag you placed on the ] article pertaining to the number of images, could you please provide a little more information about your concerns? I followed the link provided in the tag and read the related guidelines, but everything seems to be within the described norms. I see a similar issue was discussed not too long ago . Your input on the article talk page regarding your specific concerns in this matter would be greatly appreciated. Regards, ] (]) 02:32, 24 October 2009 (UTC) | |||
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| :Yes, thanks for the inquiry. This is a reasonable request and something I was intending to do. Thank you for the reminder.--<span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> — ] • ] • </span> 15:28, 24 October 2009 (UTC) | |||
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| Keithbob, you're the principal editor of ], having made more than a third of the edits to the article. Can you affirm that you have no connections to the entities or people discussed in the article? If the people are your friends or colleagues, or if you have business ties to the entities, then I think any reasonable person would presume that a conflict of interest exists. <b>] ] </b> 18:53, 20 November 2009 (UTC) | |||
| :Are you asking me for personal information?--<span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> — ] • ] • </span> 20:48, 20 November 2009 (UTC) | |||
| ::I am asking you to either affirm that you have no conflicts of interest regarding the TM-related topics you're editing, or to avoid editing them. In other words, if you do have a conflict of interest you do not need to disclose it, but if there are significant undisclosed ties to the entities and people in those articles then you should stop editing them. For example if you are an employee of any of the organizations with MVEDC-licensed trademarks, or a personal friend of any of the researchers, then those would be obvious conflicts of interest when writing about TM-related topics. If you can honestly say that you have no such connections then that would satisfy my concern. <b>] ] </b> 21:31, 20 November 2009 (UTC) | |||
| ::A third option, which is perfectly legitimate, is to acknowledge having a conflict of interest without specifying it, and to limit yourself to making suggestions for article improvements using the talk page. <b>] ] </b> 21:34, 20 November 2009 (UTC) | |||
| :::Sounds to me like some fancy word game you are playing to try and get me to reveal personal info. --<span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> — ] • ] • </span> 23:23, 20 November 2009 (UTC) | |||
| ::::I'm sorry if it sounds that way, that's not my intent. My request does not require disclosing anything: can you affirm that you have no connections to these entities or people, or instead, are you willing to stop editing the articles where you have undisclosed conflicts of interest? That's all I'm asking. <b>] ] </b> 00:15, 21 November 2009 (UTC) | |||
| :::::I have performed about 7500 edits on a wide variety of topics and have been serving the Wiki ideal of creating a top quality, balanced, accurate and 💕 for about 18 months. I am familiar with Wiki's COI policy and I edit according to that policy and in a way that serves Wiki's best interest and ideals. At the same time, I do not wish to give out any information, overt or implied, about my job, my hobbies, my interests, my medical preferences, my family, my associates, my investments or my friends and according to Wiki policies I am not required to do so.--<span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> — ] • ] • </span> 04:20, 21 November 2009 (UTC) | |||
| :::::::Thanks for your response, but it ducks the question. Because of the lack of any statement to the contrary, it's hard to escape the conclusion that you do have an undisclosed conflict of interest. This has never been about disclosing any private information, but about editing only those topics about which you can be neutral. Your response indicates that you will continue to edit despite significant undisclosed conflicts of interest, and I don't see how that can benefit the project. <b>] ] </b> 05:53, 21 November 2009 (UTC) | |||
| ::::::::The only thing I am ducking are your tricky attempts to get me to disclose personal information. Your accusations that I edit with conflict of interest because I won’t reveal personal information indicate that your goals lie in some devious personal agenda not the best interests of Wiki. You are an administrator, you know that COI issues are handled on the COI noticeboard, yet you choose to single me out for absolutely no reason and harass me on my User Page. Shame on you.--<span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> — ] • ] • </span> 12:13, 21 November 2009 (UTC) | |||
| :::::::::I'm not singling you out. I've made this request of all editors involved with the MVAH article. For the nth time - I'm not asking for any personal information, and I certainly don't have any "devious personal agenda". My agenda is exactly what I've said it is - to ensure that the TM-related articles are not skewed by editors with conflicts of interest. You are one of the principal editors of the topic, and the fact that you will not confirm that you are free from conflicts of interest is worrisome. Hidden COIs are the worst kind, and they don't reflect well on Misplaced Pages or the TM movement. <b>] ] </b> 18:31, 21 November 2009 (UTC) | |||
| ::::::::::I have repeatedly stated that I am aware of Wiki policy on COI and that I edit in accordance with that policy and with Wiki's best interests. I am a neutral editor. But you continue to pursue me to express your concerns about how I make a living and who are my associates. You say because I am 'principle editor' I deserve to be interrogated on COI issues. Is that some new Wiki policy? I am also the principle editor on the ] and ] articles. Will you next be telling me that if I work at the Dean Foods plant or if I went to college with Stephen Gill I should stop editing those articles? And if I don't respond to your inquiries in a way that satisfies you, will you tell me that my reluctance is "troubling" and "worriesome" and reflects badly on the Dean Foods corporation? At the present time what I am most worried about is your lack of regard for the rights of a Wiki editor and the questionable use of your administrative role.--<span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> — ] • ] • </span> 19:11, 21 November 2009 (UTC) | |||
| :::::::::::If you have conflicts related to Dean Foods or Gill then you should handle those properly too. And yes, the conflicts of editors who've made more than half of the edits to an article are of greater concern than those of editors who've only made a couple of edits. I'm sorry that you are unwilling to affirm that you are free from conflicts of interest regarding the articles which you are actively editing. I don't think your flat assertions that you are editing according to Misplaced Pages's policies and practices will resolve this issue and, just as it has several times in the past, this issue will probably continue to fester. <b>] ] </b> 19:41, 21 November 2009 (UTC) | |||
| Hi Keithbob, I am reaching out to you because I noticed your active participation in ] and your involvement in other private equity and hedge fund entries on Misplaced Pages. I work for ] and have declared my COI in accordance with Misplaced Pages policy. I recently posted ] to update and clarify some of the details currently in the article. I'd be grateful for your review of my request and the opportunity to collaborate with you in improving this article. Thank you! ] (]) 09:33, 10 May 2023 (UTC) | |||
| That’s exactly the point. I have no conflicts of interest on any of the articles that I edit and a large number of edits to an article does not provide grounds for accusing me of COI. It’s ironic, that during the month of November, you Will, are the #1 contributor to the ] article with 46 edits while I sit in 6th place with only 11 edits during the same month. Maybe an Administrator should be interrogating you about your potential conflicts of interest ie. pushing editors around with your Admin status on an article(s) you actively edit? You also seem to pick and choose who you want give the third degree to. An editor like Fladrif who has a history of personal attacks and discipline gets little or no action from you even when its posted on your user page.Instead you ignore bad behavior and wait for another Admin to respond. At the same time you seem to have plenty of time to spend having long discussions with other editors over alleged COI issues. And so I ask the question. Exactly what proof do you have that tells you that I am violating COI? Is it the accusations of an abusive editor who has asked for your adminstrative help? | |||
| Do you have proof of biased editing on my part or are you just repeating the obviously biased, personal attacks from an editor like Fladrif?--<span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> — ] • ] • </span> 16:30, 22 November 2009 (UTC) | |||
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Help with HubSpot
Hi, Keithbob! Hope you are well and don't mind my reaching out to you. I see that you've been offline a bit recently, so am dropping a note here in the hopes it reaches you. Previously, you'd a series of constructive edits to HubSpot and I'm wondering if you could give three edit HubSpot-related edit requests of mine a second review? All three were declined recently by an editor going through the edit request queue, but that editor has not responded to my responses to him.
The requests include:
- Talk:HubSpot#Proposed_addition: Requesting the addition of a subsection HubSpot CRM Free
- Talk:Comparison_of_CRM_systems#Addition_of_HubSpot: Requesting the addition of HubSpot CRM Free to the tables
- Talk:Comparison_of_Mobile_CRM_systems#Addition_of_HubSpot: Requesting the addition of HubSpot CRM Free to the table
I have a conflict of interest as I'm here on behalf of HubSpot through my work with Beutler Ink, so I'm seeking editors to review my requests. I appreciate any input. Thanks in advance! 16912 Rhiannon (Talk · COI) 19:44, 11 December 2017 (UTC)
- Thanks, I've commented on the talk page -- — Keithbob • Talk • 21:21, 22 January 2018 (UTC)
- Looks like its been resolved! -- — Keithbob • Talk • 16:34, 25 January 2018 (UTC)
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- OK, then it is my 4th anniversary of being precious!! Thank you! :-) -- — Keithbob • Talk • 22:26, 22 January 2018 (UTC)
- But I noticed that you are precious only four years ago ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:18, 22 January 2018 (UTC)
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Hi Keithbob, I am reaching out to you because I noticed your active participation in WP:Business and your involvement in other private equity and hedge fund entries on Misplaced Pages. I work for Tetragon Financial Group and have declared my COI in accordance with Misplaced Pages policy. I recently posted an edit request to update and clarify some of the details currently in the article. I'd be grateful for your review of my request and the opportunity to collaborate with you in improving this article. Thank you! CC for Tetragon (talk) 09:33, 10 May 2023 (UTC)