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| :you can just remove the image, not the image box completely. you can only delete non-free images which are not associated with any mainspace article. if you are not qualified to delete an image from wikipedia, ask an admin to do it for you. ] (]) 11:21, 25 August 2009 (UTC) | |||
| "The purpose of a Misplaced Pages talk page (accessible via the talk or discussion tab) is to provide space for editors to discuss changes to its associated article or project page." Your recent post on the Atlantis talk page had nothing to do with that. ] (]) 18:53, 25 January 2015 (UTC) | |||
| :: I have worked mostly with images in the two years I've been an admin. You'll find you can delete any image, regardless of whether it is associated with an article, if it fails our media policies. In the case of userspace non-free images, I usually do delete the images, but in this case, since the article was at MfD, I wished only to remove their current presence. The neatest way of doing this was to remove the image box, after all it is redundant without the image. <b>]</b> 11:34, 25 August 2009 (UTC) | |||
| ::No; my post on the atlantis talk page had/has a lot to do with improving the article. Ancient scrolls written in ancient greek may have some references to a lost continent. You should wait until all the scrolls deciphered. | |||
| == Calling another editor a vandal == | |||
| ::In order for a material to fall under the clause 4 of ], its "unsuitableness" should be very obvious (like some of the past posts). Otherwise, removing a material whose unsuitableness is ambiguous would be exploiting a "guideline" as if it had a power of a "policy". You should remember that guidelines are "'''''sets of best practices that are supported by consensus'''''". While "'''''editors should attempt to follow guidelines'''''", "'''''they are best treated with common sense, and occasional exceptions may apply'''''". That is, while editors "'''''should follow'''''" policies, they should at best "'''''attempt to follow'''''" guidelines. ] (]) 23:46, 25 January 2015 (UTC) | |||
| == bender235 socking == | |||
| You really should know better. ]'s edits in your userspace weren't vandalism and he left edit summaries that made that clear. He didn't add profanity or insults or try to compromise the integrity of Misplaced Pages with his edits. Consider yourself warned. ] (]) 13:57, 25 August 2009 (UTC) | |||
| https://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/bender235 I opened this up. Edward/Bender continues to troll the Atlantis page, its obvious from their edits and behavior Edward and bender are the same person. ] (]) 17:42, 10 June 2015 (UTC) | |||
| :Thanks for the warning, but not agree with you. ] (]) 15:00, 25 August 2009 (UTC) | |||
| ::THen I suggest you read ]. The warning is to help you avoid such mistakes in the future. ] (]) 15:06, 25 August 2009 (UTC) | |||
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| :this is a borderline case and needs "common sense". just fyi, i am not connected with any organisation, nor I promoted any book. i just have a POV, like any other user. the article i created and edited heavily was well sourced with secondary sources. the other users disagreed and the article was deleted. i guess conflict of interest can not be decided over the use of some images & quotes. thanks anyway.. ] (]) 20:33, 1 September 2009 (UTC) | |||
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| Per ] and ], I have removed your soaboxing/advertising comments. You are not allowed to have such comments on your userpage. Your userpage is for relaying to other users about your edits with wikipedia, is not is not some place to grandstand about the subject of your deleted article. Do not re-add them, you have been warned.— ''']]<sup> ]</sup>''' 00:42, 3 September 2009 (UTC) | |||
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| == the law of one == | |||
| :If you can't justify your removal by explaining how those quotes can be soapboxing or advertising, I will simply revert your edit. In addition to that, are you in a position to give me warning or something? ] (]) 07:28, 3 September 2009 (UTC) | |||
| ::Any user on wikipedia can warn any other user, as to the userpage, it is clearly soaboxing your POV in regards to your soon-to-be-deleted article, and this is not allowed. You can say you believe in whatever god you want, but you can't include the quasi-article you had there, the quotes and everything. The userpage is supposed to describe you as a wikipedian, and how things relate to you and wikipedia, in and of improving the encyclopedia. This is not facebook, this is not a blog, nor are you allowed to keep articles or interviews in your userpage.— ''']]<sup> ]</sup>''' 07:33, 3 September 2009 (UTC) | |||
| I think it is time to try and reinstate the law of one wikipedia article. | |||
| :::I need to see that warning issue recorded somewhere, because it is also written somewhere that "be careful about your wording". Deletion of logos5557/ra (channeled entity) is fine. How can you judge that the quotes in my userpage constitute some sort of quasi-article? The headings and wikilinks can easily be removed. There is even no mention of what these quotes are; no mention of the name of the book, etc. It is quite possible that some may perceive those as fiction. I am not convinced yet. ] (]) 07:50, 3 September 2009 (UTC) | |||
| I will help--]<sup>]</sup> 15:59, 29 January 2018 (UTC) | |||
| ::::]. Misplaced Pages is not some place where you can post real or fictional interviews, be they current affairs or past.— ''']]<sup> ]</sup>''' 08:14, 3 September 2009 (UTC) | |||
| ::::From ], 2, 7, 8 apply.— ''']]<sup> ]</sup>''' 08:19, 3 September 2009 (UTC) | |||
| == Fixed your talk page archiving == | |||
| :::::I had asked for the link to "Any user on wikipedia can warn any other user" statement, which you presented as fact. I am not hosting any material in my userpage. Those quotes are implicit material, which describe my POV and describe me as a wikipedian in a subtle manner. ] states "You do have more latitude in user space than elsewhere." Thanks for clarifying which clauses apply, but those statements are quite general as to their relations to the material in my userpage. Clause 2: Are those quotes any discussion between any users or my discussions in some subjects? No. Discussion is what we do here. Clause 7: For a material to self-promote itself, it needs to include the "full adress", that is the name of the book, organization etc. If the quotes were from, let's say, Bible, would you claim the same again? Clause 8: userpages are non-enyclopedic already. I guess what this clause describes is not what you perceive. Take agent smith quote in your userpage as an example. ] (]) 09:06, 3 September 2009 (UTC) | |||
| Hi! I took the liberty of fixing the auto-archiving settings at the top of this page. --] (]) 13:21, 6 May 2021 (UTC) | |||
| ::::::Clause two does not mention users, it mentions discussion, which this quite clearly is. It is extensive, and has nothing to do with wikipedia, or would you like to describe how it has anything to do with wikipedia. As to the warnings, I can't think of the place off the top of my head that says it, but ask any admin, and they shall tell you that you don't have to be an admin to warn users. If that was the case, applications like twinkle wouldn't exist.— ''']]<sup> ]</sup>''' 09:34, 3 September 2009 (UTC) | |||
| Twinkle is not a good example here, because it's purpose and function are completely different. The one who are giving the warnings here, is you. The one who does not know the exact place where "warnings" issue is mentioned, is you. The one who tries to justify his action by simply referring to a completely irrelevant tool, is you. I think you should be the one to look for an expert opinion. Even I believe a user can warn another user in extreme cases, or in pretty clear situations which may include personal attack, I don't know where this is mentioned. Because of that, I believe a user should refrain from such actions that can not be justified clearly by the policies, guidelines and rules. The quotes are clearly not discussions. You might call those quotes "conversations" at most, which is also not so correct because those are just quotes from conversations. The quotes are not extensive and have a lot to do with wikipedia and myself; as I mentioned in my previous reply, those quotes describe my beliefs, my POV and the type of articles which I will tend to work on. You should separate "my soon-to-be-deleted article" from this case. ] (]) 10:16, 3 September 2009 (UTC) | |||
| :Any appropriate warning can be given by any user. ] (]) 11:08, 3 September 2009 (UTC) | |||
| ::would you mind giving the wikipedia policy/rule link stating this? ] (]) 13:24, 3 September 2009 (UTC) | |||
| :::This is straining my credibility - don't you think as an Administrator I know who can do this? Our guidelines on civility, for instance, say "As with other Misplaced Pages policies, enforcement of most policies is done by community action. Most enforcement is done by pointing out issues and talking about them, sometimes by formal warnings of some sort. If further action is required, such as a block of an account for ongoing problematic behavior, Misplaced Pages's volunteer administrators have to take that step. Anyone is empowered to get involved. Most enforcement is done by more experienced editors or the administrators, but anyone who sees abusive uncivil conduct or personal attacks may get involved.". <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 14:24, 3 September 2009 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
| :::why do you take link request as straining your credibility. don't you think that, my aim could very well be to learn the exact location, to refer to in future for similar cases. now I can find the link by searching with the statements you provided. ] (]) 14:58, 3 September 2009 (UTC) | |||
| :Now you're evading. Please explicitly describe how a conversation with your god has anything to do with wikipedia.— ''']]<sup> ]</sup>''' 21:18, 3 September 2009 (UTC) | |||
| ::the link is here ]. To daedelus: And you're leaning towards sarcasm; whether they exist or not, ra entities are not my god, there is no god to worship in this philosophy. I assume you had read the conversations I'm talking about; a conversation between "questioner" and "ra" is some sort of ] and serves the purpose of implicitly describing me as a wikipedian, my beliefs, my POV and the type of articles I would tend to work on. ] (]) 10:00, 4 September 2009 (UTC) | |||
| :::Please stop evading, and answer the question. Please ''explicitly'', describe how it has anything to do with you being a wikipedian and wikipedia. As far as I can see, a conversation about types of bigfoot/creatures has nothing to do with wikipedia, and everything to do with your belief system.— ''']]<sup> ]</sup>''' 20:51, 5 September 2009 (UTC) | |||
| :i explained already explicitly, but it is clear that you have not understood it yet. nor it seems you have any will to do so. for a neutral-civil discussion you have to choose your words carefully. you need to drop that tone and stop using some words like "evade", "answer the question" etc. ] (]) 22:05, 5 September 2009 (UTC) | |||
| ::No you didn't. You made sweeping statements that did not specifically explain how each question had anything to do with wikipedia.— ''']]<sup> ]</sup>''' 22:19, 5 September 2009 (UTC) | |||
| :yes i did. read my statements again; those are not sweeping. my statements specifically adressed what you were looking for; the relation of the quotes in my userpage, with me as a wikipedian. dialogues on history of mankind, free will, ufos, bigfoots etc. tell the reader that the user will work in such articles. instead of stating my interests in brief like many other users, i prefer stating my interests implicitly by some sort of ]s. plain simple. ] (]) 22:50, 5 September 2009 (UTC) | |||
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| :it was not as extreme as you described, but i had to reply that way to the person who were not checking the thread but just accusing me of using bad etiquette, not to mention accompanying incivil tone ("again", "take your complaints elsewhere" etc.). even if it causes me a block, i can not take myself from revealing the fact to such attackers. otherwise, they might make habit of it. ] (]) 21:57, 5 September 2009 (UTC) | |||
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| You have now reverted the same material on ] 4 times in the last day. I understand that you feel your edits are appropriate however they run counter to the established consensus of other editors. I suggest you might want to review ] and contribute constructively on the associated talk page. Thank you and have a nice day. ] (]) 19:12, 27 September 2009 (UTC) | |||
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Research assistance
I have been given access to a number of sources via WP:The Misplaced Pages Library and also have a decent set of research resources. If you would like assistance in accessing a particular source you can leave me a message on my talk page and I will do my best. I offer this assistance for both verification and research. I may not have access to any particular source but will give it a shot. I am open to requests on all sides of issues, being strongly committed to NPOV and desiring above all to improve the encyclopedia. Providing some material will require email correspondence. I would make clear that my privacy should be maintained (non disclosure of my email, personal information etc.) and that if I provide you with copyrighted material it is as fair use for research purposes under the terms and conditions my access and that it may not be reproduced or distributed in any way. Best. - - MrBill3 (talk) 12:39, 26 September 2014 (UTC)
FYI
A sockpuppet investigation has been filed at Misplaced Pages:Sockpuppet investigations/Logos Edward321 (talk) 23:21, 24 December 2014 (UTC)
Misplaced Pages:Talk page guidelines
"The purpose of a Misplaced Pages talk page (accessible via the talk or discussion tab) is to provide space for editors to discuss changes to its associated article or project page." Your recent post on the Atlantis talk page had nothing to do with that. Edward321 (talk) 18:53, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
- No; my post on the atlantis talk page had/has a lot to do with improving the article. Ancient scrolls written in ancient greek may have some references to a lost continent. You should wait until all the scrolls deciphered.
- In order for a material to fall under the clause 4 of WP:NOT#FORUM, its "unsuitableness" should be very obvious (like some of the past posts). Otherwise, removing a material whose unsuitableness is ambiguous would be exploiting a "guideline" as if it had a power of a "policy". You should remember that guidelines are "sets of best practices that are supported by consensus". While "editors should attempt to follow guidelines", "they are best treated with common sense, and occasional exceptions may apply". That is, while editors "should follow" policies, they should at best "attempt to follow" guidelines. Logos (talk) 23:46, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
bender235 socking
https://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/bender235 I opened this up. Edward/Bender continues to troll the Atlantis page, its obvious from their edits and behavior Edward and bender are the same person. AppleJuiceLover (talk) 17:42, 10 June 2015 (UTC)
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the law of one
I think it is time to try and reinstate the law of one wikipedia article. I will help--Namaste@ 15:59, 29 January 2018 (UTC)
Fixed your talk page archiving
Hi! I took the liberty of fixing the auto-archiving settings at the top of this page. --rchard2scout (talk) 13:21, 6 May 2021 (UTC)