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| == Related Myths == | |||
| ‘The realization or discovery that such stories are make-believe is considered a part of the child's growing up. Such realizations can also cause significant emotional pain in some children due to feelings of betrayal’ | |||
| This article says "in some Asian countries, such as China ...." etc, people throw the baby teeth up into the air or down onto the ground. I live in Nanxun and asked every single person I know if they ever heard of this - people here, people in Beijing, Shanghai, Haerbin, Chengdu, and Shenzhen. | |||
| ‘It also gives children a reason to give up a part of themselves that they may have grown attached to.’ | |||
| Not a single one had ever heard that. | |||
| Who writes this drivle. Does anyone know of a child having suffered ‘significant emotional pain’ when discovering the truth about Father Christmas or the Tooth Fairy. I can only imagine an American wrote this and clearly shows why they are all in therepy. | |||
| So I'm not going to remove it but Real Life™ Experience says this statement is hogwash. ] (]) 13:44, 10 December 2020 (UTC) | |||
| == NOPE AGREED == | |||
| :There is no source given for the claim in the article. I'm inclined to think we should just delete it. ] (]) 18:13, 10 December 2020 (UTC) | |||
| ::I've removed the paragraph. Of course if anyone can find a source, we can re-add material based on it. —] (] '''·''' ]) 19:16, 10 December 2020 (UTC) | |||
| Why is it being discussed as principally a US tradition? Wretched Sepps. Tooth fairies are ubiquitous in the UK. | |||
| == amount; program == | |||
| It would be of interest to have (documented) data on how much the TF leaves. In the fifties, I got a dime (US); a recent NPR program says the rate is about $6 now (US). | |||
| I object to the quote "An eight-year old's gift to the Tooth Fairy.' Its isn't really a 'gift', its more of an exchange, i don't gift the power company when I pay my bill. Also, why is this kid losing so many teeth? Three at once is questionable and it makes one think that one should save up teeth to exchange, when in truth, a single tooth is exchangeable. | |||
| On 4 March, NPR's Weekend Edition devoted a few minutes to the TF. ] (]) 15:22, 4 March 2023 (UTC) | |||
| There is an answer missing from this page, the answer to a very important question contained in a letter my 8 year old has just written to the tooth fairy: Why do you collect teeth? | |||
| :{{ping|2600:6c67:1c00:5f7e:1c0b:c22a:e490:c0db}} Thanks for this suggestion. I've added some information to the article about how the reward is affected by inflation. —] (] '''·''' ]) 16:28, 4 March 2023 (UTC) | |||
| == Casing == | |||
| I didn't see the earlier removal of the spoiler stub. I '''reluctantly''' removed the stub | |||
| myself.] 02:26, 11 November 2005 (UTC) | |||
| Almost every mention in article prose is cased like a proper name ("Tooth Fairy"), yet the article is at title "Tooth fairy". I have no motivation to perform a source analysis, but seems to indicate it would be inconclusive. Can someone either move the page to the Title Case title or sentence case the article prose? ] (]) 03:55, 11 December 2023 (UTC) | |||
| == Unreferenced content == | |||
| I added the spoiler warning, it needs a god damn spoiler warning, you bastards. <small>—''The preceding ] comment was added by'' ] (] • ]) 02:03, 21 January 2006.</small><!--Inserted with Template:Unsigned--> | |||
| I'm moving almost the entire section "In popular culture" here so that what remains is referenced. | |||
| :Misplaced Pages is ] censored for the protection of minors. Let's be serious here. We're not adding spoiler warnings to every myth. ] 00:58, 23 January 2006 (UTC) | |||
| '']'' is a British children's television programme first aired in 1993. | |||
| In the 2010 film '']'', ] plays as the titular character. The 2012 sequel stars ]. | |||
| Two important points to consider, first the spoiler warning is necessary to protect everyone, not just kids. Second, if it were censorship, I'd have deleted the phrase "fictional character." I insist upon placing a warning on this as it spoils the entire myth. Spoils get spoiler warnings. | |||
| The 2003 horror film, '']'', features a vengeful spirit known as the "Tooth Fairy". A 2006 horror film, ], also features an evil Tooth Fairy. | |||
| I took out the phrase 'deciduous ]' because its stupid. No one knows what that means, and it should be readable for the layman. | |||
| A killer nicknamed "The Tooth Fairy" (because of his habit of leaving bite marks on his victims) is featured in "Red Dragon", part of the ] franchise by ]. He appears in ] and the ] and ] film adaptations. | |||
| :(the above was added by ]) | |||
| ]'s book series ''The Guardians of Childhood'' features Toothiana, a half-human tooth fairy resembling a ] operating out of South Asia. She and a vast legion of mini fairies (depicted in the books as being an ability to split herself into smaller copies, while the film has them as separate entities) collect children's teeth to safeguard the childhood memories held within, with the film also including a brief appearance by the Tooth Mouse. In its 2012 film adaptation '']'', she is voiced by ]. | |||
| :] are used for revelation of plot endings, not general knowledge. Besides, what do you accomplish by putting the warning before the entire text? The innocent reader who believes in the tooth fairy won't understand what's going to be revealed before it's all too late. | |||
| In episode 2 of ''],'' a 2021 series on Netflix, the tooth fairy myth is an integral part of the plot. | |||
| :I agree wholeheartedly on replacing 'deciduous dentition' with 'when it falls out of the child's mouth', though. -- ] 10:06, 23 February 2006 (UTC) | |||
| In ''The Legend of Toof'', by P.S. Featherston, a story originally told in 2006 and published in 2021 by TF Press, we learn of the dangerous adventures of a small woodland sprite named Toof. Toof is the original tooth fairy born with the ability to know when a child has lost a tooth and how to find them. The story identifies why fairies need a child's tooth, how it keeps them safe from gremlins, and why children need to help them in this endeavor. In ''The'' ''Legend of Toof'' we meet all of the original Tooth Fairies, two human children that help him defeat the hidden world's most despicable villains: Colsore, Deekay, and Plaak, their army of Drolls, and the original Tooth Mouse of Spain, ] and learn his story. Because of Toof, we discover how fairies can fly at the speed of light, the importance of their friendship with children, where they get the unique coins they leave as gifts, and much more as it relates to Tooth Fairy lore. | |||
| In the video game ''Reverse: 1999'', a playable character named Tooth Fairy serves as a dentist and medical doctor at the St. Pavlov Foundation. In addition to her medical knowledge and hobby of collecting various teeth, she carries literal glowing tooth fairies in a jar, and can heal other arcanists by feeding parts or all of a tooth fairy to them. | |||
| The term 'fictional character' spoils the myth, take a look at the Santa Claus article, it doesn't say that Santa is fake, it does however say he is a 'folk hero.' I will compromise and remove the spoiler warning if the term "fictional character" is replaced with "folk hero." | |||
| Otherwise I am fully willing to replace the spoiler warning after your edits, and maybe even write a bot to do it automatically, and any efforts to capture my ISP will be thwarted. Muahahaha | |||
| Feel free to put it back when you have a reliable source for the content. ''']]''' 23:09, 29 May 2024 (UTC) | |||
| Mythology is fine, given the contemporary academic usage of the word, but fictional is seriously POV. ;) ] 19:02, 9 June 2006 (UTC) | |||
| Hmmm...I agree. Keep the spoiler warning.- ] | |||
| :I don't see a need for a spoiler warning - there's no spoilers as far as I can tell, and Misplaced Pages is here to be an encyclopaedia. Encyclopaedias are meant to give people information they don't know - it's almost as bad as putting a spoiler warning on every other article in case the person reading it might not know about the subject, which in effect kinda defeats the purpose. I think it should be removed. '''<sub>]</sub> ] <sup>]</sup>''' 23:42, 28 August 2006 (UTC) | |||
| ::This is a late response, but I've changed my mind- you're right. This is an encyclopedia article...] 04:16, 15 February 2007 (UTC) | |||
| '''ToothGuy:''' I've never heard of 'ToothGuy' from the line: 'Other prominent examples are Santa Claus, ToothGuy, and the Easter Bunny.' Maybe we could replace 'ToothGuy' with at least ''one'' non-Pagan turned Christian example of a mythological character? How about the Chinese ] or at least ]? ] 01:25, 5 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
| I think that you should keep the spoiler warning because when I read that the tooth fairy wasn't real, I was devestated. I don't want that to happen to someone else. <small>—Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 03:10, 24 June 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
| ==Proposed move== | |||
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| {{{result|The result of the debate was}}} '''Not moved'''. —]→] • 05:02, 9 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
| ] to ]. Tooth Fairy is the name of the fictional being and thus it should be capitalized. Similarly to how ] is capitalized, ] should be capitalized also in its title. ] 23:35, 28 August 2006 (UTC) | |||
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| *'''Support''' per my proposal. ] 23:40, 28 August 2006 (UTC) | |||
| *'''Oppose''': conventionally lower case. ] 01:15, 29 August 2006 (UTC) | |||
| *'''Oppose''' - this is more akin to a job title than a proper name. Meriam Webster uses lower case, as does the article linked. -- ] 17:47, 30 August 2006 (UTC) | |||
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| == Protection request == | |||
| I Have reverted vandalism on this page 2 times in the past day and a half and it has been reverted by others as well. --] <sup>(]/])</sup> 05:09, 1 January 2007 (UTC) | |||
| No less than 3 times myself. ] 15 January 2007 (UTC) | |||
| ==Puley the Pule Duck??~!== | |||
| The Great Pumpkin, the Sandman, Bogeyman, Puley the Pule Duck | |||
| Fer chrissakes! These are not "prominent examples of folklore" Puley is a minor cartoon reference on Nickelodeon. Ohnoitsjamie, is reverting everything I do without even reading it. ] 21:39, 23 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
| : That's not a valid reason for page protection. See ]. Many (not all) of your edits have been reverted because they violate Misplaced Pages's policy on ]. <b>] ]</b> 21:42, 23 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
| What are you talking about? There is no page protection. The next sentence is "The Tooth Fairy calls upon the European folklore" which makes it clear that the character is fictional. There is no censorship request. "Traditional" is a better word in the intro for a character with a history going back hundreds of years. The "Tradition" section also starts out "The Tooth Fairy is an example of folklore mythology" which links to mythology. Obviously fiction. <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) </span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> | |||
| : That's not a strong reason for changing the opening from "mythological" to "traditional." You intentions are obviously to "protect" children. Once again, Misplaced Pages is not censored. <b>] ]</b> 21:56, 23 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
| ::I tend to think that mythological figures are much more important personages than the TF. I will make the change to traditional. I will also take out the fictional ] and replace with something else. ] 06:35, 26 May 2007 (UTC) | |||
| :::Sorry. I couldn't think of another peer to Santa, the Easter Bunny, and the TF. ] 06:41, 26 May 2007 (UTC) | |||
| == parents == | |||
| should this article really mention that your parents are the tooth fairy (see information about putting the tooth in a glass of water? ] (]) 19:40, 24 December 2007 (UTC) | |||
| :Definitely. The myth wouldn't be sustained without parent's active encouragement. ] (]) 15:06, 15 August 2008 (UTC) | |||
| == From Kortney == | |||
| Dear Tooth Fairy, i lost my tooth last night. it took a long,long time to get mine out. Thank you for all the money you left on my dresser, love on of your very best friends, Korntney, M. T.- Florida/ Virginia <small>—Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 18:15, 16 July 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
| Sorry, but this talk page is not for communicating with the tooth fairy. It is for people to talk about editing the tooth fairy article on wikipedia. | |||
| ] (]) 21:30, 18 January 2009 (UTC) | |||
| ==Copyedits== | |||
| There were a number of places where the language was tightened without affecting meaning. | |||
| The claim that Peanuts was pivotal to the modern image of a tooth fairy, or that it was the first major use in a comic is original research. And it doesn't "ring true" (didn't Little Nemo include a tooth fairy, for example?) Also, the comment wasn't appropriate in an article that includes other international versions that were probably untouched by Peanuts. | |||
| Since many editors have come up with references, it would be useful if someone used them to quote to round out an important aspect of the whole thing: the tooth fairy's purpose. I can come up with a couple directions: Distract children from a scary situation? Conform to peer pressure? Support a child's view of the relationship of trial and reward?? | |||
| Also, when I went back to the article to consider the Discussion comment above by Noahwoo, I removed a considerable amount of language claiming some book, comic strip, or academic theory is "first", "most commonly accepted", "responsible for the modern image" etc. This language is original research, strongly contrary to Wiki policy, as a quick glance at ] will confirm for those who are interested. Moreover, it's apparent that the tooth fairy myth is practiced in many cultures, and possibly for hundreds of years, so statements about origins and influences need to take an international viewpoint. | |||
| ] (]) 14:57, 15 August 2008 (UTC) | |||
| == "...special part of her all-white tooth castle in the sky." == | |||
| What the HELL? ] (]) 07:43, 24 August 2008 (UTC) | |||
| :I remember hearing some variation on this, occasionally. But a) It's not cited, b) it's not an central part of the myth, and therefore c) doesn't belong in the introduction, and d) isn't written in an encyclopedic style. I removed it. The editor might want to find a source, and re-add encyclopedic material later in the article. ] (]) 21:22, 7 November 2008 (UTC) | |||
| == I don't know what this means == | |||
| ''This combination of ancient international traditions has evolved into one that is distinct Anglo-Saxon and Latin American cultures among others.'' | |||
| I thought I understood this sentence until "distinct". I don't think it parses after that. I would boldly correct this if I had any clue what it meant. | |||
| -- ] (]) 04:59, 24 February 2009 (UTC) | |||
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Related Myths
This article says "in some Asian countries, such as China ...." etc, people throw the baby teeth up into the air or down onto the ground. I live in Nanxun and asked every single person I know if they ever heard of this - people here, people in Beijing, Shanghai, Haerbin, Chengdu, and Shenzhen.
Not a single one had ever heard that.
So I'm not going to remove it but Real Life™ Experience says this statement is hogwash. 203.160.69.56 (talk) 13:44, 10 December 2020 (UTC)
- There is no source given for the claim in the article. I'm inclined to think we should just delete it. John M Baker (talk) 18:13, 10 December 2020 (UTC)
- I've removed the paragraph. Of course if anyone can find a source, we can re-add material based on it. —Granger (talk · contribs) 19:16, 10 December 2020 (UTC)
amount; program
It would be of interest to have (documented) data on how much the TF leaves. In the fifties, I got a dime (US); a recent NPR program says the rate is about $6 now (US).
On 4 March, NPR's Weekend Edition devoted a few minutes to the TF. 2600:6C67:1C00:5F7E:1C0B:C22A:E490:C0DB (talk) 15:22, 4 March 2023 (UTC)
- @2600:6c67:1c00:5f7e:1c0b:c22a:e490:c0db: Thanks for this suggestion. I've added some information to the article about how the reward is affected by inflation. —Mx. Granger (talk · contribs) 16:28, 4 March 2023 (UTC)
Casing
Almost every mention in article prose is cased like a proper name ("Tooth Fairy"), yet the article is at title "Tooth fairy". I have no motivation to perform a source analysis, but this ngram seems to indicate it would be inconclusive. Can someone either move the page to the Title Case title or sentence case the article prose? Folly Mox (talk) 03:55, 11 December 2023 (UTC)
Unreferenced content
I'm moving almost the entire section "In popular culture" here so that what remains is referenced.
Tales of the Tooth Fairies is a British children's television programme first aired in 1993.
In the 2010 film Tooth Fairy, Dwayne Johnson plays as the titular character. The 2012 sequel stars Larry the Cable Guy.
The 2003 horror film, Darkness Falls, features a vengeful spirit known as the "Tooth Fairy". A 2006 horror film, The Tooth Fairy, also features an evil Tooth Fairy.
A killer nicknamed "The Tooth Fairy" (because of his habit of leaving bite marks on his victims) is featured in "Red Dragon", part of the Hannibal Lecter franchise by Thomas Harris. He appears in the 1981 novel and the 1986 and 2002 film adaptations.
William Joyce's book series The Guardians of Childhood features Toothiana, a half-human tooth fairy resembling a Kinnari operating out of South Asia. She and a vast legion of mini fairies (depicted in the books as being an ability to split herself into smaller copies, while the film has them as separate entities) collect children's teeth to safeguard the childhood memories held within, with the film also including a brief appearance by the Tooth Mouse. In its 2012 film adaptation Rise of the Guardians, she is voiced by Isla Fisher.
In episode 2 of The Irregulars, a 2021 series on Netflix, the tooth fairy myth is an integral part of the plot.
In The Legend of Toof, by P.S. Featherston, a story originally told in 2006 and published in 2021 by TF Press, we learn of the dangerous adventures of a small woodland sprite named Toof. Toof is the original tooth fairy born with the ability to know when a child has lost a tooth and how to find them. The story identifies why fairies need a child's tooth, how it keeps them safe from gremlins, and why children need to help them in this endeavor. In The Legend of Toof we meet all of the original Tooth Fairies, two human children that help him defeat the hidden world's most despicable villains: Colsore, Deekay, and Plaak, their army of Drolls, and the original Tooth Mouse of Spain, Ratoncito Pérez and learn his story. Because of Toof, we discover how fairies can fly at the speed of light, the importance of their friendship with children, where they get the unique coins they leave as gifts, and much more as it relates to Tooth Fairy lore.
In the video game Reverse: 1999, a playable character named Tooth Fairy serves as a dentist and medical doctor at the St. Pavlov Foundation. In addition to her medical knowledge and hobby of collecting various teeth, she carries literal glowing tooth fairies in a jar, and can heal other arcanists by feeding parts or all of a tooth fairy to them.
Feel free to put it back when you have a reliable source for the content. Schwede66 23:09, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
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