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== What happened to newspapers.com? ==
== How does one go about suggesting a source to be added? ==

How can we reach out to folks running Misplaced Pages Library, so that they in turn reach out to archives/databases and such and ask them to join? There are some niche but useful paywalled archives I'd love to see added to the WL. <sub style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">]&#124;]</sub> 10:46, 3 August 2022 (UTC)
:{{re|Piotrus}} You can click 'Suggest a collection' to navigate to https://wikipedialibrary.wmflabs.org/suggest/, where we're collecting suggestions :) ] (]) 11:37, 3 August 2022 (UTC)
::Cool. Ping ] - if you can figure out how to request Pyramid content, we can ask there. The problem is I am not sure they even offer a subscription, just pdfs for sale... could still ask WL to ask them to give as a "free" account (with pre-purchased archival stuff?)? <sub style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">]&#124;]</sub> 10:24, 6 August 2022 (UTC)
::If you're actually "collecting" suggestions on that page, then please moderate it for the love of god... The abundance of duplicates, copyvio site suggestions, and sites that are already in the library makes you go "Clearly no one's seeing this, why bother" and feel stupid to participate. ] (]) 11:09, 6 August 2022 (UTC)
::Is there a way to find out if {{Ill|Nederlands Soortenregister|nl}} is a partner in the project? Thank you for your time. ] (]) 11:12, 6 August 2022 (UTC)

== Unpaywall – Find free versions of paywalled articles instantly ==
]
Unpaywall is a browser extension for Firefox, Chrome, and <small>(inserting my plug here for the <span class="plainlinks"></span>:)</small> ], which places a little open padlock icon onto the paywalled page of the journal article you are interested in, and all you have to do is click it to access the free version of the article. If there's a free version out there, Unpaywall will find it; if not, it places a gray, locked icon on the paywalled journal article page. Techcrunch review . <small>(Mentioned before at TWL, but pretty much ].)</small> Try it out, it will save you tons of time searching for a free version of articles you are interested in. ] (]) 22:12, 6 August 2022 (UTC)

== NewspaperArchive.com ==
Is something up with this partnership? I noticed that links to clippings there don't seem to be working--they landed me at a login page that didn't accept my current saved credentials (which usually work, I've used the site within the past week). When I checked "My Applications" at TWL, it doesn't show any past record of subscribing or renewing (which I know I've done annually for a while). BUT, weirdest twist yet, I can login by using the "access collection" button at TWL. But if use clippings from there, will anyone be able to access them? Doesn't seem like this will work for citations as it stands. ] (]) 21:17, 10 August 2022 (UTC)
:], it's moved to no longer require applications; everyone who meets the minimum requirements has access automatically. You should still be able to go through Access Collection to save clippings - is that working for you? (You might need to strip out the proxy from the clippings link to make it accessible to everyone). ] (]) 03:13, 13 August 2022 (UTC)
::I'll play with it. Good to know it's not just me, anyway, so thank you! ] (]) 05:56, 13 August 2022 (UTC)

⚫ == De Gruyter ==

Greetings!


It's not on Misplaced Pages Library list anymore, and manually trying to access it gives me errors on search. What happened? ] (]) 03:28, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
I am still new to the ''Misplaced Pages Library'', but shouldn't '''De Gruyter Journals''' be part of the collection?


⚫ :{{ping|Chuterix}} See . ] (]) 03:39, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
I am trying to access the following source, but can't find my way to access the article anywhere:


== What email address for newspapers.com application? ==
<code>Kearns, C. M. (2022). 7 Irigaray’s Between East and West Breath, Pranayama, and the Phenomenology of Prayer. Fordham University Press. https://doi.org/10.1515/9780823293148-008</code>


The application for newspapers.com asks for:
Thanks a lot in advance to you good folks!
"The email for your account on the partner's website"
What is the correct format in this case? ] (]) 09:36, 1 January 2025 (UTC)


:@] You need to head over to Newspapers.com, , and then provide the email address you used to sign up. ] (]) 12:53, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
Cheers! ] (]) 15:29, 12 August 2022 (UTC)
⚫ :], . ] (]) 03:10, 13 August 2022 (UTC)
:: Thanks ]! That worked like a charm! :-)
:: Cheers! ] (]) 17:15, 13 August 2022 (UTC)


== JSTOR paging ==
== Newspaper archive page results redirecting to paper's home page ==


Hi there -- JSTOR paging stopped working a couple of days ago, ie it gives the first page of hits but won't provide any subsequent pages. It was working fine previously. Is anyone else experiencing this problem, because it's difficult to work around. Cheers, ] <small>(])</small> 19:50, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
I have recently noticed that various newspaper archive links are redirecting to the newspaper's home page.


:@] It seems to be working for me - can you reproduce the issue today? If so, have you tried using it with any extensions you might have turned off? Or in a different browser? ] (]) 11:47, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
These pages are found via a Google search. But clicking on the link brings you to the homepage rather than the archived story. No Google cache seems to be available. And the pages are often not archived by the Internet Archive.
::Page navigation is working for me too (). The proxy has been super slow lately but that's another story. <span style="background:#F3F3F3; color:inherit; padding:3px 9px 4px">]</span> 19:53, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
::Thanks, {{u|Samwalton9 (WMF)}} -- I got my OH to update my drivers and it seems to be working now, touch wood. Cheers, ] <small>(])</small> 18:17, 9 January 2025 (UTC)


== newspapers.com again? ==
For example:


Is anybody else having problems? I keep getting "Application error: a client-side exception has occurred (see the browser console for more information)" when I go to https://www-newspapers-com.wikipedialibrary.idm.oclc.org/ ] ] 18:19, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-xpm-1993-11-16-9311160038-story.html
https://www.baltimoresun.com/news/bs-xpm-1998-10-26-1998299087-story.html


:That's the old access method, which is no longer in use - see . ] (]) 05:59, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
These newspapers both appear to be owned by ] and/or ], if that's the problem. Note `ct-xpm` and `bs-xpm` in common in the URL slugs.
::Ah, thanks. ] ] 16:14, 9 January 2025 (UTC)


⚫ == Bad request ==
Is there any way to disable this redirect? Is anyone involved with the Misplaced Pages Library and/or Newspapers knowledgeable about this problem or able to alert the newspapers to this issue? Any better place on Misplaced Pages to post this question?


When attempting to login at using the "Login via Misplaced Pages" button, I get a Bad Request error message.] (]) 17:17, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
⚫ ] (]) 19:19, 12 August 2022 (UTC)
:], both of those links for me resolve to an actual article rather than the newspaper's home page - is it possible there is something unique to your setup that is causing the redirection? Or maybe the issue was temporary? ] (]) 03:09, 13 August 2022 (UTC)


:@] This was a temporary error which we believe we've now fixed - please try again and let me know if you're still getting the error. ] (]) 18:18, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
== 10+ edits in the last month ==
::It's working now - thanks.] (]) 18:47, 9 January 2025 (UTC)


== Can't login ==
Where did the 10+ edits criteria come from and what is its basis and purpose?
{{Tracked|T383891|resolved}}
Hi,


I can't log in to the library, no matter what I try. I click 'Login via Misplaced Pages', my browser tab spins as though it's working, the page reloads, and all I see is the same button. I've never logged in before as I only became eligible today.
Been editing since 2011, have 23,600 edits, and am not blocked.


⚫ Thanks! ] (]) 08:37, 14 January 2025 (UTC)
Took a three-week break from editing and now find myself ineligible to access the library (face palm).


Hello, I'm also having issues logging in. ] <span style="border: 1px dotted; font-size: 0.75em; padding: 1px 5px 1px 5px">]┊]</span> 08:07, 16 January 2025 (UTC)
I'd like to access the library in order to finish bringing ] up to FAC standard.


:@] @]
I'll now go and repeatedly knock my head on my study desk. ] (]) 07:55, 23 August 2022 (UTC)
:{{re|Sandbh}} The Misplaced Pages Library is intended for use by Misplaced Pages editors to edit Wikimedia projects. The purpose of this criteria is to ensure that the people using TWL are actually active editors, rather than ''previously'' being an editor and then qualifying for free access to these resources forever, despite no longer contributing to Wikimedia projects. We think it's a fairly low bar to clear, and you can do so in a single day by making 10 edits and then attempting to login again :) ] (]) 09:24, 23 August 2022 (UTC) :That's odd. I can reproduce the error, it seems to just be affecting new logins. I've filed ] if you want to follow our progress in fixing the issue. ] (]) 14:44, 16 January 2025 (UTC)
::Got it, thank you for letting me know. I will follow it. ] (]) 03:38, 17 January 2025 (UTC)
:::@] @] This issue should now be resolved! ] (]) 15:34, 17 January 2025 (UTC)
::::Yes, it works now. Thank you! {{smiley}} ] <span style="border: 1px dotted; font-size: 0.75em; padding: 1px 5px 1px 5px">]┊]</span> 17:02, 17 January 2025 (UTC)
::::Worked for me too! Thank you! ] (]) 02:16, 18 January 2025 (UTC)


== What resources in the library require additional subscriptions from us? ==
== ''NY Herald Tribune'' ==
According to , "''New York Herald Tribune'' morgue is at the Briscoe Center for American History, University of Texas at Austin." It provides a non-working link to the place (for which a working link is ). And yes, the Briscoe Center says it has the ''NYHT''. Has anyone found any way to browse this, or (far better) to search within it? -- ] (]) 02:34, 31 August 2022 (UTC)


I have subscribed to Newspapers.com, but suspect I need to also apply for library subscriptions to ProQuest and Fold3. Is this correct? What other resources require additional applications from us? I tend to be a generalist and edit whatever article seems to need it. I should just apply for all of them, I think.
:If you have Misplaced Pages Library Card, there's a search engine for the NYHT Briscoe Center . ] (]) 04:36, 31 August 2022 (UTC)
::Actually, you may not need a WPL card. I just logged out and was able to access the search engine anyway. ] (]) 04:43, 31 August 2022 (UTC)


And if you have anything to do with providing this library access to us unwashed peons who just edit, thank you, Thank you, THANK YOU! It's as necessary to providing solid sources for articles as oxygen is to us. ] (]) 02:54, 19 January 2025 (UTC)
:::But {{U|Grand&#39;mere Eugene}}, it doesn't work. Or it doesn't for me, anyway. I've no interest in Ernest Hemingway, but in those days he was (to my mind, inexplicably) much celebrated and chitchatted about in the US, I believe. So I typed in "hemingway" (sans quotation marks), expecting several dozen hits. Instead, I got a grand total of two (2) hits, for photos, neither obviously relevant to the ''NYHT'' and indeed both postdating its demise. Does searching there work for you? -- ] (]) 09:19, 31 August 2022 (UTC)
::::No, you're right, it looks like it is supposed to be a search engine of the ''NYHT'' morgue, but instead it searches other Briscoe holdings. The link you provided above says it's a BETA version, and, "Our new Digital Collections system provides improved access and tools to make research faster and more effective. Check back frequently as we add content and refine the functionality of this site." Maybe your best shot is to use the to ask for help searching the morgue. ] (]) 16:19, 31 August 2022 (UTC)

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What happened to newspapers.com?

It's not on Misplaced Pages Library list anymore, and manually trying to access it gives me errors on search. What happened? Chuterix (talk) 03:28, 27 December 2024 (UTC)

@Chuterix: See here. Nikkimaria (talk) 03:39, 27 December 2024 (UTC)

What email address for newspapers.com application?

The application for newspapers.com asks for: 

   "The email for your account on the partner's website"

What is the correct format in this case? Humpster (talk) 09:36, 1 January 2025 (UTC)

@Humphrey Tribble You need to head over to Newspapers.com, register an account, and then provide the email address you used to sign up. Samwalton9 (WMF) (talk) 12:53, 2 January 2025 (UTC)

JSTOR paging

Hi there -- JSTOR paging stopped working a couple of days ago, ie it gives the first page of hits but won't provide any subsequent pages. It was working fine previously. Is anyone else experiencing this problem, because it's difficult to work around. Cheers, Espresso Addict (talk) 19:50, 5 January 2025 (UTC)

@Espresso Addict It seems to be working for me - can you reproduce the issue today? If so, have you tried using it with any extensions you might have turned off? Or in a different browser? Samwalton9 (WMF) (talk) 11:47, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
Page navigation is working for me too (example). The proxy has been super slow lately but that's another story. czar 19:53, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
Thanks, Samwalton9 (WMF) -- I got my OH to update my drivers and it seems to be working now, touch wood. Cheers, Espresso Addict (talk) 18:17, 9 January 2025 (UTC)

newspapers.com again?

Is anybody else having problems? I keep getting "Application error: a client-side exception has occurred (see the browser console for more information)" when I go to https://www-newspapers-com.wikipedialibrary.idm.oclc.org/ RoySmith (talk) 18:19, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

That's the old access method, which is no longer in use - see Phab. Nikkimaria (talk) 05:59, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
Ah, thanks. RoySmith (talk) 16:14, 9 January 2025 (UTC)

Bad request

When attempting to login at using the "Login via Misplaced Pages" button, I get a Bad Request error message.Nigel Ish (talk) 17:17, 9 January 2025 (UTC)

@Nigel Ish This was a temporary error which we believe we've now fixed - please try again and let me know if you're still getting the error. Samwalton9 (WMF) (talk) 18:18, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
It's working now - thanks.Nigel Ish (talk) 18:47, 9 January 2025 (UTC)

Can't login

Tracked in Phabricator
Task T383891
Resolved

Hi,

I can't log in to the library, no matter what I try. I click 'Login via Misplaced Pages', my browser tab spins as though it's working, the page reloads, and all I see is the same button. I've never logged in before as I only became eligible today.

Thanks! Delectopierre (talk) 08:37, 14 January 2025 (UTC)

Hello, I'm also having issues logging in. CarbonLollipop talk┊contribs 08:07, 16 January 2025 (UTC)

@CarbonLollipop @Delectopierre
That's odd. I can reproduce the error, it seems to just be affecting new logins. I've filed T383891 if you want to follow our progress in fixing the issue. Samwalton9 (WMF) (talk) 14:44, 16 January 2025 (UTC)
Got it, thank you for letting me know. I will follow it. Delectopierre (talk) 03:38, 17 January 2025 (UTC)
@CarbonLollipop @Delectopierre This issue should now be resolved! Samwalton9 (WMF) (talk) 15:34, 17 January 2025 (UTC)
Yes, it works now. Thank you! CarbonLollipop talk┊contribs 17:02, 17 January 2025 (UTC)
Worked for me too! Thank you! Delectopierre (talk) 02:16, 18 January 2025 (UTC)

What resources in the library require additional subscriptions from us?

I have subscribed to Newspapers.com, but suspect I need to also apply for library subscriptions to ProQuest and Fold3. Is this correct? What other resources require additional applications from us? I tend to be a generalist and edit whatever article seems to need it. I should just apply for all of them, I think.

And if you have anything to do with providing this library access to us unwashed peons who just edit, thank you, Thank you, THANK YOU! It's as necessary to providing solid sources for articles as oxygen is to us. Oona Wikiwalker (talk) 02:54, 19 January 2025 (UTC)

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