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Hello, my friend. How about a wikideal? If you could help nail down the text at ] based on your and Moonriddengirl's notes, I would do any dirty work you say. And I mean low work. I'll even go through articles you say and put references after punctuation. :) I mean it. :) The thing is, I am ready to just replace most of that page with "Read the CC license" and leave it at that. What do you think? Do you have any good friends over at commons who really know policy? Best, ] (]) 10:23, 22 October 2015 (UTC) Hello, my friend. How about a wikideal? If you could help nail down the text at ] based on your and Moonriddengirl's notes, I would do any dirty work you say. And I mean low work. I'll even go through articles you say and put references after punctuation. :) I mean it. :) The thing is, I am ready to just replace most of that page with "Read the CC license" and leave it at that. What do you think? Do you have any good friends over at commons who really know policy? Best, ] (]) 10:23, 22 October 2015 (UTC)

== Your AE request about 500/30 ==

The 500/30 restrictions are now enacted at four articles and a talk page per . Can you do anything further you believe is appropriate? Like apply templates? Thanks, ] (]) 00:05, 23 October 2015 (UTC)

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Provide proof

Hello, you accused me of leaving that post on the talk page. Please provide proof that I did such a thing. ThanksBurbak (talk) 18:33, 14 October 2015 (UTC)

Your next edit is sufficient. —SpacemanSpiff 18:35, 14 October 2015 (UTC)

It is not sufficient at all, I agreed with his statement but that doesn't mean that I made the statement. I am asking you to provide me with with proof and you have failed to do so.Burbak (talk) 22:04, 14 October 2015 (UTC)

Whether you made the edit or said that you "concur completely" is irrelevant. The fact is that both are disruptive. —SpacemanSpiff 03:09, 15 October 2015 (UTC)

No because your original accusation was based around me making that post which I did not. I agreed with someone else's post which is my right to do so however I did not make the post. Please try to understand the difference.Burbak (talk) 17:21, 16 October 2015 (UTC)

indian race wiki change

australoids are a separate group of people in andaman islands. negritos are found in papua new guinea. that article is built on the concept of aryan invasion theory which was proven false long ago. modern day Indians are not separate race;they are all caucasoids, their genetics are same mixture of ANI & ASI. you can read more on south asian archaeogenetics wiki page. which part of this is not constructive? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 170.253.176.155 (talk) 05:31, 15 October 2015 (UTC)

What you are doing is removing sourced content and adding stuff that directly contradicts the source with nothing more than an opinion in the edit summary. That is problematic and is considered vandalism. If you wish to present sourced arguments, you are welcome to do that, following our other policies of course. —SpacemanSpiff 05:34, 15 October 2015 (UTC)

Velaga Venkatappaiah

You are invited to join the discussion at Velaga Venkatappaiah. Participate in AfD Discussion Thanks. KCVelaga ☚╣✉╠☛ 15:32, 15 October 2015 (UTC)Template:Z48

About the edit of one page

Some informations provided on the page of bhumihar are totally incorrect and improper.please delete these false and improper things from this page Wizard710 (talk) 18:41, 15 October 2015 (UTC)

You are repeatedly removing sourced content from the article, the talk page consensus is against your view. If you have any sources supporting your argument then you are free to discuss it on the talk page with other interested editors. Please stop removing stuff that you don't like or you will be sanctioned. —SpacemanSpiff 18:45, 15 October 2015 (UTC)

October 2015

Hello, I'm Ashim ,I think i have fixed the issue regarding Sankalpa(film-architecture) and Sankalpa now. Thank you AA 06:20, 16 October 2015 (UTC)

  • Ok its up-to you guys (admin) to decide if i am worthy or not .As if you guys were Patrolling all articles written by me ,But any ways i don't care about the auto patrolled status ...Thank youAA 06:29, 16 October 2015 (UTC)

sock

166.176.56.20 final edit before being blocked, to me suggests that they may be User:DN-boards1. It was to remove a PROD from an article that User:DN-boards1 created.-Serialjoepsycho- (talk) 20:24, 16 October 2015 (UTC)

166 has a long history, Ricky81682 is aware of it more than I am. As for the PROD removal, I think it may just be the standard WOP obsession, but I think Ricky may be able to provide a better answer on the actual sockmaster etc. —SpacemanSpiff 20:27, 16 October 2015 (UTC)
166.171.121.14 seems to be the ip this user moved over to. In addition to restoring the PROD that I had restored here, they are also taking part in AFD's using similar language and rationale to the ip you had just blocked .There's also the similar ip.-Serialjoepsycho- (talk) 20:32, 16 October 2015 (UTC)
I've blocked this IP and reverted the AfD participation. Feel free to remove/strike out any AfD participation from future 166s related to the WOP topic ban (referencing the topic ban, link in the ANI closure). I'm not going to be on much longer, so AIV referencing the topic ban might be the best option for blocks. cheers. —SpacemanSpiff 20:36, 16 October 2015 (UTC)
Letting NeilN know as he closed the topic ban discussion. —SpacemanSpiff 20:38, 16 October 2015 (UTC)
I think this is another sock... Canadian Paul 21:41, 16 October 2015 (UTC)
I think this is a rotating mobile user in the LA region (same as me). Seems like they moved to WOP issues trying to annoy me further I guess. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 03:50, 17 October 2015 (UTC)
Canadian Paul, I seemed to have missed your post above; I see one of those DRVs has been closed and I've left a note on the other suggesting it be closed. Ricky81682, you may want to take a look at that DRV as it's regarding an AfD close of yours. cheers. —SpacemanSpiff 05:06, 18 October 2015 (UTC)

Why putting Gowhar Naz in proposed deletion

why are you putting Gowhar Naz in proposed deletion. All the references given do back his notability & neutrality by the information provided. He is no way common but a famous writer know nationally. There becomes no issue getting it deleted. Rest you explain your position in this matter. I may say improve it.Joebee 6:00, 17 October 2015 (UTC) 

Jou bee (talk) 00:32, 17 October 2015 (UTC)
Please read our notability guidelines and get an understanding of it. —SpacemanSpiff 15:46, 17 October 2015 (UTC)

Peer Review for Bharat Ratna

Hi. Hope you are doing well. I have listed Bharat Ratna for peer review. Its currently a GA and I would like to take it FAC in the near future. I would really appreciate if you could find some time and provide your comments here. Thanks in advance. - Vivvt (Talk) 09:43, 17 October 2015 (UTC)

Will take a look in a few days, cheers. —SpacemanSpiff 15:47, 17 October 2015 (UTC)

Page Protection

Page protection required for the following pages: Shresthas, Shrestha, Newar caste system, Newar people

106.51.132.199(talk) has been incessantly vandalizing these pages and with zero reference and citations. It is clear as day as to the fact that he is asserting his edits in adamantly self-aggrandizing the (Chhetri) caste while seemingly inserting wrongful and doubtful (even if they are true he presents no citation, and has horrible grammar) against anything to do with Newar community and especially against Shrestha caste. It seems he is on a personal vendetta against this caste. This sort of racial and communal hatred in no way should be allowed and hope you will reprimand the user appropriately.

Nepalichoro255 (talk) 06:17, 18 October 2015 (UTC)

Why are there so many overlapping pages? On first look I'm not sure they need protection but rather some sort of an expert view. I've watchlisted the articles for now but I suggest you get some help from other interested editors on the content of those pages.—SpacemanSpiff 10:32, 18 October 2015 (UTC)

Arbitration appeal Notification

You are involved in a recently-filed request for clarification or amendment from the Arbitration Committee. Please review the request at Misplaced Pages:Arbitration/Requests/Clarification and Amendment#India-Pakistan and, if you wish to do so, enter your statement and any other material you wish to submit to the Arbitration Committee. Additionally, the Misplaced Pages:Arbitration guide may be of use.

Thanks, Js82 (talk) 09:28, 18 October 2015 (UTC)

Multiple tags placed without reason or discussion

Hi, multiple tags have been placed on the Bihari Rajputs page and the user who placed them refuses to take part in a discussion to give his reasoning. Can you please look over the tags? Thanks Burbak (talk) 11:01, 18 October 2015 (UTC)

I see discussion on the talk page and at least one uninvolved editor (LjL in those discussions. —SpacemanSpiff 14:55, 18 October 2015 (UTC)

The Signpost: 14 October 2015

Hobby or paid editing?.. part 2

I boldly went ahead and GARed as this one was really a shabby one. Misplaced Pages:Good article reassessment/Sargun Mehta/1. Btw, the creator here seems to be an SPA mainly editing Mehta and her husband Ravi Dubey's articles. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {Talk / Edits} 10:42, 19 October 2015 (UTC)

May be paid, may not be, but it's COI editing for sure as it appears to go above the fan editing. If it's just these two articles then the best option would be to ask the editor to declare what kind of COI they have. I think {{uw-paid1}} is a good option. —SpacemanSpiff 11:57, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
Done that. Wasn't aware of such set of templates. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {Talk / Edits} 04:30, 20 October 2015 (UTC)
Dharmadhyaksha, the more I look at it the more I think it could be linked to EveryMedia Technologies, and it's not one account, it's two; look at various COIN posts on this. I'm pinging Brianhe for his opinion. —SpacemanSpiff 16:43, 20 October 2015 (UTC)
Thanks for inviting me to look. It's an unusual case. The paid editors usually don't become confrontational and abusive like this; instead they usually reply through a flood of sock/meatpuppets. I'll have to give it a more thorough look. Dharmadhyaksha, I think you made a good call in challenging the many low-quality websites used. – Brianhe (talk) 17:14, 20 October 2015 (UTC)
I suspect Spiff's instincts were right, there is promotion going on here, specifically around the India's Dancing Superstar show which the editor(s) seem especially keen to keep returning to the Sargun Mehta article. It's a Star TV show and they seem to have had some extensive PR at work on Misplaced Pages. I added one editor who created India's Dancing Superstar in 2013 to the case at WP:COIN#‎Indian television production and actors PR but hey are blocked for some time, there's probably some more work to do. Oh, the GA reviewer seems to be unencumbered by COI, but isn't reacting well to the GAR, obviously. – Brianhe (talk) 18:02, 20 October 2015 (UTC)
You think the link might be to a different agency then? Not Everymedia? It's very difficult for me to keep track of all these! —SpacemanSpiff 18:37, 20 October 2015 (UTC)
One of the risks of doing this kind of investigation is your brain can recognize patterns that aren't there. That said, I think it might be so. From a press release, "The agency's clientele includes names like Yash Raj Films, Dharma Productions, MSM Motion Pictures, Viacom 18 Motion Pictures, Fox Star Studios, Sanjay Leela Bhansali Productions, Hyundai India, Nadiadwala Grandson Entertainment, Ashvin Gidwani Productions and Prime Focus." It's entirely possible they are behind much of of the TV work recently reported at COIN. They certainly haven't been at all shy about self-promotion on WP. Another thing I have mentioned to you elsewhere, I've learned never to underestimate the scale these guys operate at: if you suspect two COI editors, there are probably 20. And if you suspect two PR agencies there are probably 20 of them as well (see Zee's agencies listed here for instance). - Brianhe (talk) 02:45, 21 October 2015 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Notability (awards)

Instead of taking it up directly to the village pump I wanted opinion of few more experienced editors on the subject topic. The subject is an inactive page which should be worked up on and brought back to life. We face various claims of notability by people backed for being award-recipient and I don't know why this page was left alone. I assume the idea was that GNG covers it all. But we do need some specific guidelines to point IDHT-editors to point to when non-notable award pages are created or when people claim to be notable for winning one of those trophies.
Although currently my interests in this page is to make my life simple in dealing with in-house glam awards, it does cover other people too. See Talk:N. R. Narayana Murthy for lengthy discussions on this topic. Also, #AwardWapasi being a trend it would be good to note which Awards when returned should be considered more notable rather than when received.
If you are not interested in the topic, do direct me to some editor who likes to write such essays enthusiastically. Talk page stalkers are also welcome. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {Talk / Edits} 11:55, 20 October 2015 (UTC)

This is a perennial problem. Take a look at Ambarish Srivastava. Looking at that article you'd think he's the new Munshi Premchand and Edwin Lutyens in one person. The AfD deletion was reversed at DRV because he won the Indira Gandhi Priyadarshini Award which is run by some minor Congress politician. You have this on one extreme and then you'll regularly see Padma Bhushan and Padma Shri recipients being taken to AfD, and worse, tagged A7. I think since this involves BLPs and stuff you could ask TheRedPenOfDoom for their opinion as it might be of interest to them. I don't mind being a casual participant in a discussion on this but I expect it to be a time sink so I will not be an active participant. Also, typically Drmies has the answer to everything and you could ask him too. I think Hoary also has an interest in some awards (visual arts) and could possibly offer you some suggestions. cheers. —SpacemanSpiff 14:04, 20 October 2015 (UTC)
  • Oh, there's a ton of awards that are nothing--I'm thinking especially of industry awards in K-pop and those kinds of things. And yes, they're used to establish notability, and unrighteously so. What gets my goat especially is the explosive proliferation of "List of awards received by Person X": revolting, and just another example of fan trivia and table porn. But I don't have that much interest in the topic: it's a fringe interest to me. I have written up a couple of award articles, for awards that I know to be notable and I think I usually have decent sourcing for it. But that's really what it requires: good third-party sourcing, not notes in the tabloids that someone received this or that. Drmies (talk) 17:06, 20 October 2015 (UTC)
Yes, all of the India television stations have their own "awards" shows that they distribute like candy on their productions and actors and are actually the equivalent of "employee of the month" /advertisements with no actual merit for establishing notability. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 19:12, 20 October 2015 (UTC)
(talk page stalker) Lots of things could be used to test the effectiveness of a awards notability guideline. Here are some suggestions of pages I've come across lately. Wheels (film), Furlenco, Easy Taxi, Rayat Shikshan Sanstha, BabyChakra, Sobha Ltd., Nasscom Emerge 50. - Brianhe (talk) 01:46, 21 October 2015 (UTC)
@TheRedPenOfDoom: What do you think of the articles on the TV awards themselves? I just noticed that many of them have been created by a known sockfarm, or operators who match the same general profile:
You (RedPen) actually were contacted by one of these editors at one point , maybe you remember? - Brianhe (talk) 03:41, 21 October 2015 (UTC)
In-house Indian TV awards
The following discussion has been closed. Please do not modify it.

These are in-house awards. Am not implying that other awards from Category:Indian television awards are notable. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {Talk / Edits} 05:17, 21 October 2015 (UTC)

I concur with User:TheRedPenOfDoom. The Indian TV awards are iffy because they're basically individual TV networks patting themselves on the back. The problem for us is that these awards sometimes do get covered in print and web media, which at first glance may seem to confer notability. In some cases the coverage may be from sources owned by or affiliated with the networks; in others they're just cheap gossip rags which will report on any content involving celebrities. In any case, it can be difficult to assess the reliability of the sources. —Psychonaut (talk) 07:48, 21 October 2015 (UTC)
  • Pinging some editors I think might be interested in the reviving of the subject inactive page. @DGG, Piotrus, Thomas.W, Tokyogirl79, and Ryan Vesey: @Sphilbrick, Dennis Brown, and Bbb23: And now, if our "cabal" is big enough, should we move to a bigger better stage for our drama? Don't want to flood SS's talk page and then repeat all sayings on Village pump or elsewhere. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {Talk / Edits} 08:44, 21 October 2015 (UTC)
  • I think that it should definitely move somewhere else, just because this will obviously become bigger. I'm absolutely down for helping to make this guideline more clear for others. I know that I typically give the same spiel about awards whenever they're mentioned at AfD or elsewhere: that less than 5% of awards are notable, less than 1% are completely notable (ala Oscars or Golden Roosters), yadda yadda. The reason I do this is because it's necessary and there isn't entirely a wholly clear guideline on this specific aspect. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡) 09:23, 21 October 2015 (UTC)
  • On Tokyogirl79's suggestion, perhaps this could be moved to Misplaced Pages talk:Notability (awards) as a prelude to a VPP discussion. I don't mind hosting the discussion here, but I don't have the time to get involved in this discussion. Anyone can feel free to copy paste there (or another appropriate location) and close it here. cheers. —SpacemanSpiff 17:53, 21 October 2015 (UTC)

@Bastollah edits

@SpacemanSpiff: See this. Inserting text such as "scum of the Sikh..." is just not okay. The User talk:Bastollah page has caution/warning by @Kautilya3, @Thomas.W and I. Tried welcoming @Bastollah to the Sikhism's talk page, received no response. @Kautilya3: is there an easy way to cleanup the Sikhism article off unsourced or undue text by @Bastollah? Ms Sarah Welch (talk) 14:38, 20 October 2015 (UTC)

Good lord, I think you may have to look at edits in other articles too. I'm leaving a final warning now, this is clearly unacceptable behavior, not just disruptive. —SpacemanSpiff 14:56, 20 October 2015 (UTC)
@Sarah, the easiest thing to do would be to revert (restore) to the last clean version such as on the left here . But whatever edits you may have done would get lost. Good luck cleaning it. I gave up following this article a few days ago because there was just too much activity. - Kautilya3 (talk) 16:29, 20 October 2015 (UTC)
Just revert back to the best pre-Bastollah version you can find. I scanned their edits and they are entirely unsourced personal opinions. --regentspark (comment) 01:55, 21 October 2015 (UTC)

Hobby or paid editing? #3

Hello. Would you mind taking a look at Sargun Mehta? There's an SPA there who does nothing but add promotional trivia to the article (having edited nothing else since the account was created more than eight months ago...). Thomas.W 16:55, 20 October 2015 (UTC)

This is related to the section above, #2. I think there may be some COI issues, and have invited Brianhe to take a look at it to see if it matches Misplaced Pages:Sockpuppet investigations/Kabir Vaghela. We have a fair few sets of TV/film PR agencies, but that's the one that's been most troublesome and active. I've added the page to my watchlist now and the good doctor seems to have reverted, will step in in case of any further edit warring. cheers. —SpacemanSpiff 18:33, 20 October 2015 (UTC)
Thanks. Thomas.W 18:45, 20 October 2015 (UTC)
I was looking around this mess and I found Portal:Sargun Mehta. This obviously goes back to some serious COIN promotion issues, I'll wait for Dharmadhyaksha to follow up on what Brianhe has suggested. —SpacemanSpiff 18:52, 20 October 2015 (UTC)
Noticed that portal too, and was going to bring it up somewhere or other. Also: check out {{Star Plus Shows}} and {{Balaji Telefilms}}. - Brianhe (talk) 02:22, 21 October 2015 (UTC)
I have seen Mehta's portal. But MFDs are very inclusive of portals. Misplaced Pages:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Priyanka Chopra is currently there. Not related to any of these COIs, just probably fan made.‎ §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {Talk / Edits} 03:24, 21 October 2015 (UTC)
I'll take a look at this, it appears to be some sort of good hand bad hand collaboration going on here and is very likely two people at an agency. —SpacemanSpiff 17:53, 21 October 2015 (UTC)

Regarding 'Chinna Jeeyar' wiki page

Hello, I'm SpacemanSpiff. Misplaced Pages is written by people who have a wide diversity of opinions, but we try hard to make sure articles have a neutral point of view. Your recent edit to Chinna Jeeyar seemed less than neutral to me, so I removed it for now. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. It is also clear that you are now returning under a different account to perform the same edits, if you continue to do so you are likely to be blocked

Hello

In reference to your reply, I am not sure what you mean a different account, it might be that I added edit once without logging in and second might be from my official wiki login userID.

Regarding your question, I am not sure why the content is being removed as I added the references even. Maybe you are not liking it because it uses some sanskrit terms, that I am not sure. If grammar is a concern, maybe you could suggest some edits. But all the information that I posted in my edit is true and I can confirm that. Now the page has absolutely no information at all and it feels empty.

Regards Kalyan — Preceding unsigned comment added by Krushna7 (talk • contribs) 09:47, 21 October 2015 (UTC)

Please read our policies and guidelines: WP:BLP, WP:NPOV, WP:V, WP:RS. Your edits have been in violation of all those. —SpacemanSpiff 17:53, 21 October 2015 (UTC)

A cup of tea for you!

With this ever dramatic world including WikiDrama, here's a cup of tea to alleviate your day! This e-tea's remains have been e-composted SwisterTwister talk 07:15, 22 October 2015 (UTC)

Donated artwork

Hello, my friend. How about a wikideal? If you could help nail down the text at Misplaced Pages:Donated artwork/Artists' welcome page based on your and Moonriddengirl's notes, I would do any dirty work you say. And I mean low work. I'll even go through articles you say and put references after punctuation. :) I mean it. :) The thing is, I am ready to just replace most of that page with "Read the CC license" and leave it at that. What do you think? Do you have any good friends over at commons who really know policy? Best, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 10:23, 22 October 2015 (UTC)

Your AE request about 500/30

The 500/30 restrictions are now enacted at four articles and a talk page per my closure. Can you do anything further you believe is appropriate? Like apply templates? Thanks, EdJohnston (talk) 00:05, 23 October 2015 (UTC)

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