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Template:Kansas City Film Critics Circle Award for Best Actor

• Template:Kansas City Film Critics Circle Award for Best Actor (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
• Template:Kansas City Film Critics Circle Award for Best Actress (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

All related articles were deleted at Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Kansas City Film Critics Circle (2nd nomination), including Kansas City Film Critics Circle Award for Best Actor, Kansas City Film Critics Circle Award for Best Actress, and Kansas City Film Critics Circle which gives the award. The navboxes are placed on actors who in all examined cases already have a big bunch of navboxes for more notable awards. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:27, 18 July 2015 (UTC)

• Delete fails navbox 468.148.186.93 (talk) 05:55, 19 July 2015 (UTC)

Template:ArticleOTRS

• Template:ArticleOTRS (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

This was created for use on articles, not article talk pages. When it is being used, this is being used redundantly to Template:ConfirmationOTRS on article talk pages, but it is not adequate to that purpose, as it doesn't include even a parameter for the license. While image OTRS tags do not require a license parameter, text OTRS tags *do*. When I listed this, it was transcluded to 9 pages. I am converting the talk page usages (which are incorrect) to the standard talk template (current transclusion count: 2914), which includes all necessary information. Where it is used in articles, it can and should be replaced by Template:CCBYSASource and Template:Dual. We do not need the OTRS information on the article face itself. --Moonriddengirl 20:01, 18 July 2015 (UTC)

• After removing the incorrect uses of this from article talk space (and some of them were very incorrect, as the content had not been licensed at all), there's one page that's using it somewhat correctly - and it's using it in lieue of the talk space notice rather than in addition to, so the agent who used it has in all good faith failed to identify the license anyway. :/ --Moonriddengirl 20:29, 18 July 2015 (UTC)

Template:Cloud gaming

• Template:Cloud gaming (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Any modern online game or gaming software as some element of 'cloud' (saving, high scores, servers etc) this is not defining. Category:Cloud gaming is fine. Delete. Vaypertrail (talk) 18:32, 18 July 2015 (UTC)

Template:Recent changes in WikiProject Chemistry

• Template:Recent changes in WikiProject Chemistry (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Delete: code fork, confusing and no improvement. The template is created as a code copy from the original Template:Recent changes in WikiProject Chemistry (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages) (compare). It is thereby redundant. Edit history shows that the similarity was intented (more below) to evade cooperation. The fact that the content list (a short list of pages) was altered slightly does not deny that. Also, the new name is posing right next to thew original name, thereby adding to the confusion. I note that slight code changes (different list) do not alter the aim of the template. The creation, and the preliminary edits were discussed (see below).

Background and preliminary edits:

1. Christian75, who created the copy, first changed content to which I opposed . By this, including the editsummary, the editor knew their edit was controversial.

2. Notwithstanding, one hour later, the editor proceeded to move the template to the opposed name .

3. Right with this, the original code was copy/pasted back into the original name (by then a redirect after the Move). So primarily, this was a code forking, secondary, this removed the history/attribution of the original (mostly my edits). I had this undiscussed move reverted, and the editor was explained not to mess with history this way . At this moment, everything should be clean & correct.

4. Next step, the editor created this template with the code copied (I now propose to delete).

As for the confusion by the name, note that first there are two projects WP:CHEMICALS and WP:CHEMISTRY, which are confusing and related (one is a sub topic of the other). This confusion is in the earlier edits. Then the newly created name has "WikiProject" injected, which adds nothing but confusion. I note that the original name fits a series of similar names in Category:Recent changes boxes. The name pattern nicely allows for automated template creation.

None of these edits, all in the pattern of forking, were preceded by any talk. Instead, the repetitive inroads to have it their way in whatever way shows that the editor is not open for constructive communication. DePiep (talk) 15:26, 18 July 2015 (UTC)

comment About the link you link to: Chemicals belongs to WikiProject Chemicals and should in general be discussed there. Therefore, I changed the wiki link, but you reverted it with the reason " won't have to do with WP Chemicals anyway)" - its not user space. I moved the template to the right name (chemicals), and used the old name (chemistry) for WikiProject Chemistry articles and with attribution to the other template on the talk page. You say "that the editor is not open for constructive communication" - not correct; I have answered you here, and before that, it didnt take you long time to report it at WP:ANI (where I have explained why; but you didnt comment it with anything but saying "Wikilawyering" and your first statement again; and then you "report" it here - but you didnt comment on WP:ANI first). Btw. your comment about chemistry/chemicals are confusing, its like if I wanted the Rugby and American football projects merged, because its "the same" and confusing Christian75 (talk) 19:00, 18 July 2015 (UTC)

• keep The name has the same prefix as the other recent changes - and it covers all articles in the WikiProject Chemistry as the name of the template tells you. {{Recent changes in Chemistry}} has close to zero of the articles in WikiProject Chrmistry. I suggest we rename {{Recent changes in Chemistry}} to {{Recent changes in Chemicals}}. The chemicals are covered by two WikiProjects, WikiProject Chemicals and for drugs also WikiProject Drugs. Please explain why the two name WP:Chemicals and WP:Chemistry are confusing. Christian75 (talk) 16:37, 18 July 2015 (UTC)

re The name has the same prefix ...: no, the copy template does not follow the existing name pattern. See the category mentioned & explained in the nomination.

re as the name of the template tells you: yes, the original name tells so. Here you are admitting you are enforcing a name change again (a Move, this time by forking), not a new template. That is deletable then. I can add, after earlier edits listed (also trying to enforce a name change), this too supports the "enforce without talking" attitude.

re it covers... — so does the original template (Just look at the name. Or read the background. Or a-s-k the creator). In your wrecking edit actions (listed), you have not once asked or proposed a change. Even this post is not constructive by that.

And no, I don't feel the need to answer your question you only bring up now, after your editwarring chaos and non-talking (a closed question actually, that is: self-serving). Now that it has arrived on TfD, this is no place or time to invent a sort of "discussion" that should have been at the start.

To be clear: nowhere is says is established that the original template is restricted to certain WikiProject exclusions or inclusions. Such a misconception must have been injected by Christiaan75. It could have been established in any early talk. -DePiep (talk) 22:23, 19 July 2015 (UTC)

• Keep - this one is clearly intended for Misplaced Pages:Wikiproject Chemistry, {{Recent changes in Chemistry}} should be renamed to {{Recent changes in WikiProject Chemicals}}, as that is clearly the sole focus of the articles mentioned there, and it historically been so that chemical compounds are under the Chemicals WikiProject, and the rest of chemistry is under the Chemistry WikiProject. --Dirk Beetstra 12:44, 19 July 2015 (UTC)

re this one is clearly intended for Misplaced Pages:Wikiproject Chemistry: that's the point. It's a functional copy. You can see the intention of the original template by looking at its title, by reading anything on its background (e.g., in this thread for starters), or by asking the creator.

re template names mentioned: as written, these are breaking naming pattern. This is not the place to propose name change, and of course name pattern changes can not be enforced from individual issues.

re Chemistry vs Chemicals: since, indeed, chemicals are withing chemistry (both in RL and in WP), it is OK to have them together in one list. If someone wants to propose splitting, that should be done elsewhere, not here and not in a TfD. Anyway, such a split is not part of the topic. (It follows that elsewhere I would oppose it, were it properly proposed). -DePiep (talk) 21:48, 19 July 2015 (UTC)

Template:Other Names-Mohammed Ashraf

• Template:Other Names-Mohammed Ashraf (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

This page doesn't seem to serve any purpose. Liz 02:17, 18 July 2015 (UTC)

• Subst and delete not a real template, just holding some set text that is much shorter than the template name. (NOTE the article using this is up for deletion, so if it is deleted, this could be deleted as unused) -- 67.70.32.190 (talk) 05:54, 18 July 2015 (UTC)
• Speedy delete per G6. 2 words does not a template make68.148.186.93 (talk) 06:01, 19 July 2015 (UTC)