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=== Statement by Hijiri88 === | === Statement by Hijiri88 === | ||
=== Statement by John Carter === | === Statement by John Carter === | ||
I have some information I would like to present, but probably won't be able to get it together until some time tomorrow. I hope the request stays open that long. | I have some information I would like to present, but probably won't be able to get it together until some time tomorrow. I hope the request stays open that long. | ||
One of my concerns is the matter of what seems to me to be obvious stalking and harassment of Hijiri88 of other editors, both Catflap and myself, at ]. It is worth noting that as indicated there I have no memory of Hijiri88 ever showing any prior interest in the group, and believe his recent interest may well have been started by basically stalking of either me or Catflap08. On the basis of Hijiri88's comments about me there and elsewhere recently, I would have no objections to an i-ban regarding him and me either. And I hope to maybe tomorrow present a bit more information indicating that this is far from being the first time that Hijiri88 has belabored personal attacks of others. After presenting additional evidence, I would be interested in perhaps finding out if there might be an option, somehow, of a quick-trigger i-ban of maybe limited length, say 30 or 60 days, to prevent any further incidents of this kind involving this editor. ] (]) 20:44, 8 April 2015 (UTC) | One of my concerns is the matter of what seems to me to be obvious stalking and harassment of Hijiri88 of other editors, both Catflap and myself, at ]. It is worth noting that as indicated there I have no memory of Hijiri88 ever showing any prior interest in the group, and believe his recent interest may well have been started by basically stalking of either me or Catflap08. On the basis of Hijiri88's comments about me there and elsewhere recently, I would have no objections to an i-ban regarding him and me either. And I hope to maybe tomorrow present a bit more information indicating that this is far from being the first time that Hijiri88 has belabored personal attacks of others. After presenting additional evidence, I would be interested in perhaps finding out if there might be an option, somehow, of a quick-trigger i-ban of maybe limited length, say 30 or 60 days, to prevent any further incidents of this kind involving this editor. ] (]) 20:44, 8 April 2015 (UTC) | ||
=== Statement by Sturmgewehr88 === | |||
As someone who has worked coöperatively with Hijiri88 and has watched this dispute with Catflap08 for almost a month now, I'd like to give my 2¢. When Catflap08 violated a number of policies/guidlines with his edits to the above-linked three articles, it was completely acceptable for Hijiri88 to revert and dispute those edits and to look at Catflap08's edit history for other violations, especially because consensus agreed with him on all three article talk pages. That said, I do believe it was inappropriate for Hijiri88 to comment at the Editor Retention WP section for Catflap08's (then serious) retirement. At this point, an interaction ban would be mutually beneficial for both of them. I'd also like to warn ] not to cite statements with sources that ] in the future to avoid more conflict. ''']</span>''' (]) 00:09, 9 April 2015 (UTC) | |||
=== Statement by {Non-party} === | === Statement by {Non-party} === |
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Request for an I-ban
Initiated by Catflap08 (talk) at 20:07, 8 April 2015 (UTC)
Involved parties
- Catflap08 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log), filing party
- Hijiri88 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
- Confirmation that all parties are aware of the request
- Confirmation that other steps in dispute resolution have been tried
- https://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Editor_Retention#Close
- https://en.wikipedia.org/Talk:Kokuch%C5%ABkai4
- https://en.wikipedia.org/Talk:Kenji_Miyazawa
- https://en.wikipedia.org/Talk:Daisaku_Ikeda
- https://en.wikipedia.org/User_talk:Hijiri88
Statement by Catflap08
I would like an interaction ban to be imposed between myself and User: Hijiri88. The conflict erupted on the article on Kenji Miyazawa carried on at Kokuchūkai and sites like Daisaku Ikeda. The user in question decided to delete threads of the discussion on his own talk page. I then decided for retirement (which is something I should think twice about now) and the user in question decided again to show up in the discussion here . In my books escpecially the latter incident qualifies for WP:Hound. I therefore would like to think that an i-ban between me and the user in question would for the time being be the best solution. I am aware that such a step would be mutual, but at this point I fear no constructive interaction is possible. May I add that the proposed i-ban should also include IP-addresses and alternative user names used by the editor in question?
- Since personal attacks and name callings have been involved and since I was engaged in a discussion in which the editor's name did not pop up once and since other means (Including ANI) to end the dispute failed no other option seems feasible. --Catflap08 (talk) 21:38, 8 April 2015 (UTC)
Statement by Hijiri88
Statement by John Carter
I have some information I would like to present, but probably won't be able to get it together until some time tomorrow. I hope the request stays open that long.
One of my concerns is the matter of what seems to me to be obvious stalking and harassment of Hijiri88 of other editors, both Catflap and myself, at Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject Editor Retention#Retirement of User:Catflap08. It is worth noting that as indicated there I have no memory of Hijiri88 ever showing any prior interest in the group, and believe his recent interest may well have been started by basically stalking of either me or Catflap08. On the basis of Hijiri88's comments about me there and elsewhere recently, I would have no objections to an i-ban regarding him and me either. And I hope to maybe tomorrow present a bit more information indicating that this is far from being the first time that Hijiri88 has belabored personal attacks of others. After presenting additional evidence, I would be interested in perhaps finding out if there might be an option, somehow, of a quick-trigger i-ban of maybe limited length, say 30 or 60 days, to prevent any further incidents of this kind involving this editor. John Carter (talk) 20:44, 8 April 2015 (UTC)
Statement by Sturmgewehr88
As someone who has worked coöperatively with Hijiri88 and has watched this dispute with Catflap08 for almost a month now, I'd like to give my 2¢. When Catflap08 violated a number of policies/guidlines with his edits to the above-linked three articles, it was completely acceptable for Hijiri88 to revert and dispute those edits and to look at Catflap08's edit history for other violations, especially because consensus agreed with him on all three article talk pages. That said, I do believe it was inappropriate for Hijiri88 to comment at the Editor Retention WP section for Catflap08's (then serious) retirement. At this point, an interaction ban would be mutually beneficial for both of them. I'd also like to warn User:Catflap08 not to cite statements with sources that don't say what they're citing in the future to avoid more conflict. ミーラー強斗武 (StG88ぬ会話) 00:09, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
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Vote key: (Accept/decline/recuse/other)
- I'd like to know why AN/I has not been tried here? Thryduulf (talk) 21:09, 8 April 2015 (UTC)"> ">
- Awaiting statements, but leaning decline. I'm not clear on why this couldn't be settled by a request to the community. Seraphimblade 21:12, 8 April 2015 (UTC)
- Even the accusation of wikistalking appears low level. Minded to decline, but awaiting John Carter's statement. AGK 22:25, 8 April 2015 (UTC)