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Regarding the notice on your home page of the above title, kindly explain who these other editors are and direct us to the page where they decided to make these changes. Please also read ]. Sincerely, your friend, ] (]) 00:23, 20 February 2015 (UTC) Regarding the notice on your home page of the above title, kindly explain who these other editors are and direct us to the page where they decided to make these changes. Please also read ]. Sincerely, your friend, ] (]) 00:23, 20 February 2015 (UTC)
: I have never said that we own these articles, and never have we said anything about acting like so. We consist of people OUTSIDE of Misplaced Pages (in fact, my user is controlled not just be 'me', but several people (Credits: Han SangYoon, Simon H., Jonathan M. Daniele D.S, Bobby C., Trey V.T, J. Dong Hyun (HSYKorea), J. Ji Hoon (HSYKorea), K. Shoujyun/Nao Uruo (HSYJapan)). We share accounts, and we're working together under one account as our favor. Some here in LA take pictures for the LA metro pages (Simon H., Jonathan Menyhart), then I upload them. So whatever it is, I'm just organizing the metro pages for their benefit, and just because I have a big list on the bottom of my homepage doesn't mean I own it. ] (]) 00:36, 20 February 2015 (UTC)

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LACMTA Red Line stations

Hi. You reverted my creation of image galleries in two Red Line stations' articles: Hollywood/Highland (Los Angeles Metro station) and North Hollywood (Los Angeles Metro station) ‎. In my browser, the images started to drop off the page after you edited it; the image alignment that you added is such that the images start to appear halfway down the article. With the gallery, there will not be any extra whitespace. We don't need to put all the images on the side; that is why we have gallery sections. Thanks. Epicgenius (talk) 19:21, 21 January 2015 (UTC)

EpicGenius, I have checked all of my browsers (IE, Chrome, Safari, Firefox, Mobile and Tablet Browser) and there hasn't been any fallouts. What do you mean when the pictures fall off? Is your browser uniquely setted up differently? Please check. Rather than to get rid of the right thumb icon pictures, you should check to see if your browser is normal, because in other computers, the pictures comes up normal. Also, gallery isn't as viewed as much as the thumb icon images. --HanSangYoon (talk) 19:32, 21 January 2015 (UTC)
See my reply on my talk page. I've attached an image as well. Epicgenius (talk) 20:09, 21 January 2015 (UTC)
Why did you revert on the North Hollywood station article? You can still add text even if the images are staggered like that. I'm sure you've seen my image of how my computer views the page; the rearrangement staggers the images so that there is one image per header in mobile view. Epicgenius (talk) 01:53, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
I thought you'd see my message- I'm quite busy away from Misplaced Pages so I had to act quick --HanSangYoon (talk) 07:33, 22 January 2015 (UTC)

Los Angeles Metro

Your pictures of Los Angeles Metro stations should have been uploaded to Commons. It is improper to randomly stuff your images into articles, and at Commons they could be universally accessed. Secondarywaltz (talk) 22:24, 21 January 2015 (UTC)

I am only able to upload files on English Misplaced Pages; my account is misbehaving with Commons, and I don't know what to do. Can you tell me the instructions on how to link my images onto Commons? I tried the usual instructions and they failed. --HanSangYoon (talk) 01:47, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
If you need help, I can transfer them to Commons. Epicgenius (talk) 01:51, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
Are you just shamelessly trying to stuff your pictures into articles? See Misplaced Pages is not a mirror or a repository of links, images, or media files which states "If you are interested in presenting a picture, please provide an encyclopedic context, or consider adding it to Wikimedia Commons." You do neither. Secondarywaltz (talk) 02:56, 26 January 2015 (UTC)
Your criticization against me based on the so claimed 'junk' pictures I put up for Hollywood/Highlands Station is quite irrelevant. Epicgenius said he would help me move all of my pictures to Misplaced Pages Commons (as in my talk page and his), despite the fact that I put in information on the pictures I freshly uploaded. Stop reverting my edits of the comparison images. You think it's no different, but different or not, it is meant as a comparison of how much it changed on behalf of the 11 years. --HanSangYoon (talk) 09:50, 26 January 2015 (UTC)
Your pictures are adequate quality, it is context that is required. Mutiple images should not be placed in an article without illustrating something discussed there. If you point out the major differences, in that particular case, I would have no problem. There are none. I will leave you alone to take possession of LA, since you want to reconfigure many other things in these station articles. Good luck! Secondarywaltz (talk) 17:26, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of File:Los Angeles Metro, North Hollywood, Platform.jpg

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Placard

"Placard" is not the correct description for the name board at a station. See https://commons.wikimedia.org/Category:Placards for what placards look like. Please do not use the word incorrectly. Secondarywaltz (talk) 21:55, 17 February 2015 (UTC)

Secondarywaltz is absolutely correct – "Placard view" is incorrect usage in English; the standard way to describe such images is "Platform view", which is how all of those images were previous labelled. It would be appreciated if you would go back and revert the mass changes you made to the L.A. Metro station articles where you changed the images captions from "Platform view" to the never-used "Placard view" caption. --IJBall (talk) 23:17, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
Hello, Supykun. You have new messages at IJBall's talk page. -- 00:44, 18 February 2015 (UTC)

It may seem unusual of course to call the pictures I put up as "Placard View", but take note: The pictures were not meant to show anything based of the platform. The pictures main point is the placard. As a result, naming them as "Platform View" may seem compatible, but if you take a look into Gold Line sections of Pico/Aliso Station and the region from Atlantic Station to Maravilla Station, the signs I put them up as (which is the ONLY song they actually have) is not Platform View; they are signs standing out of a pole located in a reachable distance; they are nothing to do with the platform. But putting this as an issue, if we do not uniformly name the main placard images the same for all the stations, there would be issues of disorganization (even if you may disagree, I'd agree). As a user, I believe uniformity is a must for metro station pages. Naming them all as platform view wouldn't be correct because certain sections clearly has placard images only. If we name "Placard View" for all the LA Metro pages instead, it would work because all the images would signify what it actually represent of: Placards, not platforms. Therefore, I believe the word "Platform View" is illegitimate. I strongly recommend to revert the names back, or rename the station images with a legit name such as "Placard Sign of the Station". Also, your link to the placard is correct. THATS why it should be named that way. What is a 'placard' as a definition? "A sign of notice, as one posted in a public place OR carried by a public demonstrater or picketer" (YBM SISA Dictionary). What does a platform mean then? "A horizontal surface. Or a structure with a horizontal surface usually raised above the level of a certain area" (YBM SISA Dictionary). Then we put this into perspective, what is the point of the pictures? Placard signs, not platforms. HanSangYoon (talk) 00:44, 18 February 2015 (UTC)

Wrong. A placard has a message with more content than just a name board. Secondarywaltz (talk) 00:57, 18 February 2015 (UTC)
THAT is wrong. 1) There is no such description anywhere, and 2) Denying a dictionary term isn't an acceptable and a recognizable action. HanSangYoon (talk) 01:00, 18 February 2015 (UTC)
This is not a promising approach you are taking – a "my way, or the highway" approach to editing Misplaced Pages generally does not go well for the editors that take it... --IJBall (talk) 01:06, 18 February 2015 (UTC) PS SecondaryWaltz, try typing in "Placards" and see what images comes out: http://www.wantchinatimes.com/newsphoto/2014-06-13/450/bejing-subway-300x225-114943_copy1.jpg or http://www.labelwarehouseinc.com/images/montage-placards-vertical-home-page.png Both show unique, non-complex words or not even words; just pictures. Explain that to me if you could, then. HanSangYoon (talk) 02:31, 18 February 2015 (UTC)
Please take that definition and apply it to yourself, too, if you'd like to go with the rule. I've proven my point in a logical and a reasonable direction, and what about you two, condemning my evidence to push with your favor? That's not a Misplaced Pages-favorable way to handle things either. HanSangYoon (talk) 02:16, 18 February 2015 (UTC)
I agree with your definition. A placard has a notice or message, which could be a warning. The sign simply showing the name of the station does not do that. You do not try to understand the difference - and "platform" has nothing to do with this discussion. You are having trouble communicating in English, so I am finished here. Secondarywaltz (talk) 03:33, 18 February 2015 (UTC)
I take that as a mere excuse, by the way. I have no trouble with English, and probably it's just you running out of words to defend your thoughts. Don't ever block my progress again unless if you have any reasonable explanation. You always appear on my behalf whatever I do without a good explanation, and so I have had enough of you, SecondaryWaltz. Bye bye. HanSangYoon (talk) 04:28, 18 February 2015 (UTC)
You are overthinking the articles. The previous two editors stated their point, AND, your view is not logical, to say the least. The view is of the platform, not the placard. Why there are so many "placard" pictures at the infoboxes is beyond me. A lovely picture of the station from the outside or even a wider shot of the platform, or maybe permissible artwork are more appropriate. What is this fixation with signage, or in your case, "placards"? They are all uniform in style, and really don't contribute to the article. And, also..."Don't ever block my progress again unless if you have any reasonable explanation" is a threat. It has NO PLACE ON WIKIPEDIA. PERIOD. --Allamericanbear (talk) 08:39, 19 February 2015 (UTC)
I agree with your statement that Misplaced Pages is no place for a threat, but you are far from correct when you referred to my statement as a threat. I haven't made any statements where I would do anything against this user if he didn't listen to me. This is a stern warning, not a threat. If it is a threat, let's say, then I got this message from IJBall: https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=User_talk:IJBall&diff=647800907&oldid=647799361 (When I said I was done talking with you, I wasn't kidding - do not come around here again.) Isn't this a threat, then? Also, your statement that the platform image doesn't really contribute to the article is quite blatant. Check the Korean Wikipedian Misplaced Pages pages of their own metro systems (same with the Japanese). Their station pages has platform views or placard signs as their main image. What's wrong with that? It rather makes the article so much better, and that's what I'm trying to apply for all LA metro system stations, too. Is it wrong for me to take pictures and contribute it on Misplaced Pages? NO. Also about the naming, did you not believe I stated my point, either? I told them that the MAIN POINT for the picture was NOT the platform. It was the placard in the middle. However, with so many different people not liking the name, I am currently changing the name again, but definitely not Platform View. It doesn't make sense at all. HanSangYoon (talk) 17:32, 19 February 2015 (UTC)
"Don't you ever" is the start of a threat, regardless of whether you notify the person of your plans in retaliation or not. It is not wrong to take pictures of Misplaced Pages, but at times pictures can be refuted or removed, regardless of your decision whether they are appropriate or not. Your main point is also irrelevant. The picture includes signage, yes. But your pictures also point out architecture, maybe a platform, or other interesting detail that may not be found in each station. Just bulk adding pictures and calling it what you insist it shows doesn't make it right, either way you slice it, dice it, or serve it to the reader. A "platform" view encompasses the entire picture, which is what it is. I don't understand how you cannot understand this. --Allamericanbear (talk) 17:59, 19 February 2015 (UTC)
AllAmericanBear, I already told you about the placard image that it won't be named 'placard sign'; I will change it, but no, it won't be a 'Platform View' because it doesn't even show the entire platform in the first place; maybe a request for new pictures of the entire platform would be more appropriate than an immediate condemnation against my reasoning? Also, your explanation on a threat is very wrong. In fact, nowhere as a reference does it show that statements beginning with "Don't you ever" is a threat. Here's the proper, official term of a 'threat' in case you didn't know: http://www.lesc.net/blog/what-threat Nowhere does it say that it has the beginning word, Don't you ever. A threat is a statement directly intending violence or physical action, which did not consist of what I did. HanSangYoon (talk) 00:17, 20 February 2015 (UTC)
How did a pissing match start over the semantic leanings of a term used to describe a picture of a sign at a subway stop? Ahh, Misplaced Pages how I love thee. HanSangYoon I like that you're out there taking pictures of the stations, even if it is only of the sign, you're right it's better than nothing. However the term placard, while it may be technically correct, was most popular in the 17th century. Perhaps we should nudge to the 21st? ;-) Lexlex (talk) 18:08, 19 February 2015 (UTC)
Yes, LexLex. I have already decided with so many people disagreeing with the term (which honestly I don't get but now don't care), I am changing the caption. But remember: The images does not show the entire platform either, and therefore stating it as 'Platform View' is in any context, invalid. I am currently studying more English vocabulary that has the right term for this image. HanSangYoon (talk) 00:21, 20 February 2015 (UTC)

February 2015

Information icon Please do not attack other editors. Comment on content, not on contributors. Personal attacks damage the community and deter users. Please stay cool and keep this in mind while editing. Accusing people of sockpuppetry without serious evidence is considered a personal attack, per WP:WIAPA. SarekOfVulcan (talk) 04:45, 19 February 2015 (UTC)

'Serious attacks'? Please, SarekOfVulcan! I am terribly hurt by these dishonest users using several accounts to win over me by breaking the laws of Misplaced Pages. Whoever reported you must be one of the people I am currently accusing of. Please check this page and see for yourself of how much I am disheartend by the dishonesty of Secondarywaltz: https://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/SecondaryWaltz HanSangYoon (talk) 04:50, 19 February 2015 (UTC)

Could you possibly help out a new user?

SangYoon, could you possibly help the new user Felixtyga?
They have made some edits French campaign against Korea (1866) that appear to be helpful. I can read a little hanja, but it takes me about five minutes to read the hangul of even the simplest Korean place or person name. They created an article that will probably be deleted soon. I'm copy and pasting it here to see what you think:

  • 『일성록(日省錄)』Llseongnok
  • 『용호한록(龍湖閒錄)』Yonghohanrok
  • 『동문휘고(同文彙考)』Dongmunwhigo
  • 『하거집(荷居集)』Hageoujip
  • 『淸季中日韓關係史料』
  • 『籌辨夷務始末』

I would really appreciate your help!
Peter in Australia aka --Shirt58 (talk) 09:16, 19 February 2015 (UTC)

I will, just a moment. Thanks for coming here by the way. HanSangYoon (talk) 17:00, 19 February 2015 (UTC)
DoneHanSangYoon (talk) 19:15, 19 February 2015 (UTC)

ATTENTION, EDITORS OF LOS ANGELES METRO STATION PAGES (UPDATED PST 3:56 PM, FEBRUARY 16, 2015)

Regarding the notice on your home page of the above title, kindly explain who these other editors are and direct us to the page where they decided to make these changes. Please also read Misplaced Pages:Ownership of articles. Sincerely, your friend, GeorgeLouis (talk) 00:23, 20 February 2015 (UTC)

I have never said that we own these articles, and never have we said anything about acting like so. We consist of people OUTSIDE of Misplaced Pages (in fact, my user is controlled not just be 'me', but several people (Credits: Han SangYoon, Simon H., Jonathan M. Daniele D.S, Bobby C., Trey V.T, J. Dong Hyun (HSYKorea), J. Ji Hoon (HSYKorea), K. Shoujyun/Nao Uruo (HSYJapan)). We share accounts, and we're working together under one account as our favor. Some here in LA take pictures for the LA metro pages (Simon H., Jonathan Menyhart), then I upload them. So whatever it is, I'm just organizing the metro pages for their benefit, and just because I have a big list on the bottom of my homepage doesn't mean I own it. HanSangYoon (talk) 00:36, 20 February 2015 (UTC)
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