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Ebola article

In the future please use group consensus when you make major article decisions such as the split that you did for Guinea in the Ebola epidemic article. Gandydancer (talk) 11:57, 1 October 2014 (UTC)

The article wasn't split, Gandy. Your article Ebola virus epidemic in West Africa has not been affected in any way. There's nothing from that article in the new Guinea article. There wasn't anything useful to transfer. It's only a summary, which it should be when there's a main article. I think you don't understand what a split means. A split will happen when, for example, the 'responses' section gets removed and moved to a new article. That's something you are having done. That's a split. None of the new country articles represent a split. There might be a relevant WP page on this. SW3 5DL (talk) 15:22, 1 October 2014 (UTC)

Here's the link that will explain moving content here. SW3 5DL (talk) 15:39, 1 October 2014 (UTC)

please do not call an article "your" article as it implies WP:OWN. Setting up a subarticle is something that needs to be done with care and thought so that the editors working on the topic can keep everything aligned. btw the relevant guidance articles are WP:SPLIT and WP:SUMMARY.unsigned comment made by Jytdog

The article is not a split. I don't know any other way to explain that. Perhaps you could provide diffs that show what you say is a page split? Also, remember to sign your edits. SW3 5DL (talk) 16:08, 1 October 2014 (UTC)

Jytdog, I wanted to mention I hope you won't make comments like this one again to anybody on WP, but especially to Brian. Your comment chased him off WP. Fortunately, he's back now, as he should be. He's done a wonderful job on the article. You completely misunderstood what he was saying in the exchange on the article talk page, which didn't have anything to do with you at all, and on top of that, he came back and clarified what he meant, which you apparently ignored. You really need to read through another editor's comment before you respond. Thanks. SW3 5DL (talk) 17:00, 1 October 2014 (UTC)

considering the encylopedia as a whole, what has been done is a split, per WP:SPLIT. There is no other valid justification in WP for creating a content fork. Jytdog (talk) 17:39, 1 October 2014 (UTC)

Looks like the articles in question are perfectly allowed Spinouts. Cheers. SW3 5DL (talk) 19:05, 1 October 2014 (UTC)

you are getting it now. gandy's emailmessage above did not dispute that they are allowed. what she asked for was that we discuss the strategy for doing that, as they are related to the main article. this is indeed best practice. Jytdog (talk) 19:11, 1 October 2014 (UTC) (correcting my error - was referring to note above, as I was earlier in this thread Jytdog (talk) 22:29, 3 October 2014 (UTC))

He sure seemed on-board yesterday and I quote:

"Well, another maverick split - two down and two to go... I think that we should wait to remove our individual coverage of the affected countries until the new articles are cleaned up. What do other editors think?" Gandydancer (talk) 15:25, 30 September 2014 (UTC)

"Two down, and two to go. . ." doesn't sound like a complaint to me.

SW3 5DL (talk) 19:49, 1 October 2014 (UTC)

am talking about gandy's comment at the top of this thread and at starstr's page, which you reacted to the same way, in both places. Jytdog (talk) 20:14, 1 October 2014 (UTC)

Jytdog, thanks for your support - I really appreciate it. It has been very time consuming and frustrating to try to deal with this editor. I try to not get into disputes and I know that you do as well, but some people just have a way of hooking one in... Besides the fact that of course, if this editors actions harm the article, one must step in and respond to his actions. SW3, I note that when Jytdog made a mistake he did his best to correct it with an apology, which I assume was sincere since Brian is now back and without a grudge. You, on the other hand it seems would rather argue till doom's day to defend your mistakes. Hopefully this issue can be dropped on the article talk page and we can move forward and work on the article rather than constant bickering. Gandydancer (talk) 11:47, 2 October 2014 (UTC)

Gandydancer:

• . . .gandy's emailmessage above did not dispute that they are allowed. what she asked for was that we discuss the strategy for doing that, as they are related to the main article. this is indeed best practice. Jytdog (talk) 19:11, 1 October 2014 (UTC) (correcting my comment again, as I did above Jytdog (talk) 22:29, 3 October 2014 (UTC))

• Perhaps fewer emails asking Jytdog to come and engage in your one-sided battles that you create out of air, and less this is my article behaviours, will help you achieve that goal where you say, "we can move forward and work on the article rather than constant bickering." You're doing the bickering, so you're the only one who can stop it. We're not in middle school anymore. Passing notes via emails off Wiki to create drama on WP is considered disruptive.

• Commenting in the third person about an editor on that editor's own talk page is just plain rude and childish. Your behaviour on the article is WP:TEND. All these behaviours make you sound immature. If you've an issue, there are appropriate WP resources for resolving them. Personal attacks, disparaging an editors contributions, calling an editor a 'mother fucker', encouraging other editors to engage in battle, especially via off-Wiki channels, edit wars, and refusal to engage on the talk page with only a few editors, is inappropriate behaviour. Please don't return to my talk page. It is a talk page for civil discourse about WP topics. It is not a space for you to go on a rant as you do on the article's talk page. SW3 5DL (talk) 14:15, 2 October 2014 (UTC)

about the change you just made, you now have made a false statement as the words in quotes were not used; implied, but not used. please revise. and it should be noted that gandy struck the comment. (and btw, grudges are unhealthy) Jytdog (talk) 11:45, 3 October 2014 (UTC)

SW3 D5L, you quoted my remark about "email" and referenced it above. Per my edits above, I misspoke. The entire thread where I used the term "email" was referring to Gandy's original message... and my brain thought "message" and my fingers typed "email". It happens. Gandy has never sent me an email. I note that recently on my Talk page I invited her to email me if she wanted to blow off steam; I doubted that she would take me up on that, as she never has done so in the past. Sorry for the confusion. Jytdog (talk) 22:29, 3 October 2014 (UTC)

Ebola map

Why would you want the map placed on a Guinea article? The patient in Texas is from Liberia. AmericanXplorer13 (talk) 19:43, 1 October 2014 (UTC)

AmericanXplorer13, I meant to say the Liberia article because of the connection. What do you think? SW3 5DL (talk) 19:47, 1 October 2014 (UTC)

SW3 5DL, here's the updated map.

Great, thanks! Also, there's a possible case in Hawaii. SW3 5DL (talk) 04:41, 2 October 2014 (UTC)

SW3 5DL, once the case in Hawaii is confirmed, I will add it. Until then, this is the most recent map. AmericanXplorer13 (talk) 13:56, 2 October 2014 (UTC)

AmericanXplorer13, Yes, agree. And excellent job on this map. Thank you very much for your time on it. I've added it to the Ebola virus case in the United States article. SW3 5DL (talk) 14:07, 2 October 2014 (UTC)

Ebola medivac case

HI SW3 5DL, must say good job on this one. I triommed a little on the west African article but still kept the main info. Butt it my be a good idea to add the medivacs here.. Perhaps heading previous medivac cases in US.. Give a opportunity to trim that section in the main. Just a thought..GreetingsBrianGroen (talk) 20:27, 2 October 2014 (UTC)

Thanks, I worked on it until late last night. On the medivac cases, that's a great idea, Brian. The section title can be specific about the medivac so I don't see any problem with readers being confused. Thanks for the help, I appreciate. SW3 5DL (talk) 23:15, 2 October 2014 (UTC)

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Nomination of 2014 Ebola virus cases in the United States for deletion

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Closed as "Keep." SW3 5DL (talk) 13:27, 3 October 2014 (UTC)