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:What a hell are you doing ]? I explained my edits regarding the image (by giving the example of ]) and you raised no concern. The pew estimate is not 2010 estimate but in fact 2012 one. Read it carefully again as the date is mentioned on the top. Stop your stupid behaviour. Stop giving me block warnings.] (]) 09:22, 1 July 2014 (UTC)

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Dear Septate, some important points to consider: Sunni Muslims are only a 'majority' if they make at least 51% of the Muslim population. The percentage point required for Sunnis to entitle themselves as 'vast majority' is probably subjective, but a minimum figure of 90% is likely to be appropriate. An example 1. Clearly 27% do not make a 'majority', let alone a 'vast majority'. Plus where there are statistics available, there is no harm using them. I do not see the need to remove them. Thanks --Peaceworld 15:04, 13 June 2014 (UTC)

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Ramadhan Greetings!

Dear Septate, inspite of our friction, Happy Ramadhan! Keep me in your prayers. --Peaceworld 15:46, 29 June 2014 (UTC)

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Do not continue to make edits that appear disruptive until the dispute is resolved through consensus. Continuing to edit disruptively may result in your being blocked from editing. JimRenge (talk) 10:28, 30 June 2014 (UTC)

Religion in Slovakia

I saw your recent edits on and wondered if your claim: "There are an estimated 5,000 Muslims in Slovakia" is verifiable. (Ref. given: Sudor, Karol (2 October 2010). "Mešity majú cestu zarúbanú") When I recognized that this might be a websource without the link, I searched google and found this link which appears to be a blog/no reliable source with a reputation for fact checking. Please clarify why this website is a reliable source and give a translation of the sentence that claims there are an estimated 5,000 Muslims in Slovakia. The burden of proof is on you; unsourced or not reliably sourced claims will be removed. JimRenge (talk) 11:09, 30 June 2014 (UTC)

When it comes to religion in Slovakia, the source which I stated is pretty much reliable because it gives a brief description of Muslims in Slovak lands. I got this source from Islam in Slovakia which states that The number of Muslims is unknown but there might be 5000 Muslims in Slovakia. Looks nothing wrong with it. Thanks again.Septate (talk) 13:55, 30 June 2014 (UTC) (copied from my talk page to keep the discussion in one place JimRenge (talk) 14:08, 30 June 2014 (UTC))
I understand from your answer that you can not verify that this website is a reliable source with a reputation for fact checking and you did not give a translation of the sentence that claims there are an estimated 5,000 Muslims in Slovakia. (the number 5000 is not in the text). I will remove this claim from both texts. JimRenge (talk) 14:30, 30 June 2014 (UTC)
Dear JimRenge, I have found another source which is secondary one i.e., it relies on an other source which is also reliable and it states that there are 5000 Muslims in Slovakia.

http://www.islamawareness.net/Europe/Slovakia/slovakia_news0002.html

I think there is no need to use this source because pew research is much more reliable.Septate (talk) 15:59, 30 June 2014 (UTC)

I don`t think you could verify that this new website (http://www.islamawareness.net/Europe/Slovakia/slovakia_news0002.html) or its source (dead link) is a reliable source with a reputation for fact checking. I think you argument was WP:ICANTHEARYOU. I have corrected the articles with statistical data from a reliable source/Pew Research, data for 2010. The higher estimate given, should create no problem for your pro-Muslim POV. JimRenge (talk) 16:33, 30 June 2014 (UTC)

Religion in Norway

Your addition of an oversized picture of a mosque with this edit appears to give WP:UNDUE weight to Islam in this context. Islam is a minority religion in Norway and there is already a picture of a mosque in the corresponding section. When I saw your recent edit on I wondered if your claim: Islam is practiced by 3.4% of Norwegian population, making it the second largest religion in Norway after various forms of Christianity (ref.: Religious communities and life stance communities, 1 January 2013) is verifiable. There is no percentage given in the source you provided. It says there are 120 882 muslims in Norway in January 2013. Could you please explain why you give a number of 3.4%? Inaccurate statistical data will be removed. Happy Ramadhan JimRenge (talk) 12:44, 30 June 2014 (UTC)

Lets continue this discussion on your talk page where it began. I have inserted a copy of your text here JimRenge (talk) 13:59, 30 June 2014 (UTC) :
Thanks a lot JimRenge for pointing out the absence of source. I will provide you source regarding 3.4% figure quickly. Thanks a lot.Septate (talk) 13:03, 30 June 2014 (UTC)
Dear JimRenge, following reliable source gives an estimate of 3.7% for Muslims in Norway.

http://www.pewforum.org/2012/12/18/table-religious-composition-by-country-in-percentages/

When it comes to image, I think its not wp:UNDUE because image of a Church is also present on the article. It just depicts the religious diversity of Norway. Look at Religion in Guinea-Bissau, it is an image of a church in the lead despite the fact that Christians are only 10% of total population. I hope you will understand. Happy Ramadhan.Septate (talk) 13:40, 30 June 2014 (UTC)

What is your concern now? Please tell me about it, I will answer it later. I am currently tired after a long period of fasting and I have to perform long prayers too. Thanks.Septate (talk) 14:15, 30 June 2014 (UTC)
I asked you to explain why you gave a number of 3.4% muslims in Norway using this source (census 2013), because I attempted to understand how you extracted this 3,4% from the source. You prefer not to answer my question and gave a new source PewResearch /estimate for 2010 = 3.7%. I can see no valid reason to substitute the 2013 census data that corresponds to about 2,4% with an estimate (!) from 2010. It looks as if you were cherry-picking sources to get maximum values for Muslims.
The addition of an oversized image of a mosque
Sorry I have to repeat: Your addition of an oversized picture of a mosque with this edit appeared to give WP:UNDUE weight to Islam in this context. "Giving due weight and avoiding giving undue weight means that articles should not give minority views or aspects as much of, or as detailed, a description as more widely held views or widely supported aspects." Islam is a minority religion in Norway and there is already a picture of a mosque in the corresponding section.
Your edits give me the impression that you might have a WP:COI conflict of interest. Your arguments correspond to WP:ICANTHEARYOU.
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June 2014

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What a hell are you doing JimRenge? I explained my edits regarding the image (by giving the example of Religion in Guinea-Bissau) and you raised no concern. The pew estimate is not 2010 estimate but in fact 2012 one. Read it carefully again as the date is mentioned on the top. Stop your stupid behaviour. Stop giving me block warnings.Septate (talk) 09:22, 1 July 2014 (UTC)
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