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	*'''Support''', per '''' (p. 13) by Tadao Sato. ] (]) 21:25, 22 January 2013 (UTC)		*'''Support''', per '''' (p. 13) by Tadao Sato. ] (]) 21:25, 22 January 2013 (UTC)

			*'''Oppose''' The nominator's citation of cinema releases are all very obscure, and this ISP nominator appears to have a very specific knowledge of Misplaced Pages guidelines for someone who has never edited any other articles...
			:Additionally, Kauffner's argument is irrelevant -- we don't name film articles based on ''reliable sources'', let alone obscure translations of Japanese books -- Mr. Satō himself didn't call this film "The Downfall of Osen". That was decided by either the translator (Brij Tankha) or one of the two editors (Aruna Vasudev and Latika Padgaonkar). ] (]) 01:15, 23 January 2013 (UTC)

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Orizuru O-Sen → The Downfall of Osen – The film was released as The Downfall of Osen at Berkeley Art Museum and Pacific Film Archive in 1981, Seattle International Film Festival in 2009 and Pickford Cinema in 2010. So it is obviously "the title under which it has been released in cinemas or on video in the English-speaking world" (WP:NCF#Foreign-language films). 124.85.190.224 (talk) 18:48, 22 January 2013 (UTC)

Actually, I was so surprised to see Elvenscout742 moving The Downfall of Osen to Orizuru O-Sen yesterday, because I can't find any reliable sources referring to the film as Orizuru O-Sen. 124.85.190.224 (talk) 19:02, 22 January 2013 (UTC)

Support, per Kenji Mizoguchi and the Art of Japanese Cinema (p. 13) by Tadao Sato. Kauffner (talk) 21:25, 22 January 2013 (UTC)

Oppose The nominator's citation of cinema releases are all very obscure, and this ISP nominator appears to have a very specific knowledge of Misplaced Pages guidelines for someone who has never edited any other articles...

Additionally, Kauffner's argument is irrelevant -- we don't name film articles based on reliable sources, let alone obscure translations of Japanese books -- Mr. Satō himself didn't call this film "The Downfall of Osen". That was decided by either the translator (Brij Tankha) or one of the two editors (Aruna Vasudev and Latika Padgaonkar). elvenscout742 (talk) 01:15, 23 January 2013 (UTC)

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