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A response waiting for you

Thanks for the message about my sandbox. A response has been left about it on my talk page. - Todd Barczak (talk) 18:45, June 26 2012 (EST)

Thank you

Thanks for the additional information. I'll study it all and give it another go. - Todd Barczak (talk) 19:33, June 26 2012 (EST)

Talkback

Anderson - what's up? If you believe there has been a mistake, report it on my talk page. 00:41, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

• I have removed Anderson's addition from Ekren's talk page and told him why I thought it was not helpful. JohnCD (talk) 11:02, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

Yes. I agree that Anderson9990's editing was unhelpful. JamesBWatson (talk) 11:04, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

Thank you

Thank you for considering my unblock request and unblocking me. Your decision will not be in vain.Worsnupd (talk) 09:34, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

Bandaranayake Central College, Veyangoda

this is my problem. I named our school name incorrectly & published the page. then I've to create a new page with the correct name & copied the incorrect page's script then pasted on the correct page. But unfortunately, the new page has been deleted and I can not edit it. Please let me know how to reedit it & then what to do.

The correct name of the school is Bandanayake Central College, Veyangoda I want to edit it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Manowiki123 (talk • contribs) 15:52, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

Thank you Very Very much for Unblocking me from editting Bandaranayake Central College, Veyangoda.

I will copy & paste whole WIKI MARKUP script of incorrect page & then I will redirect it to that new page. Please Don't Misunderstand!

Shall I Do it..?????? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Manowiki123 (talk • contribs) 15:59, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

Please Unblock me from editing Bandaranayake Central College, Veyangoda. I made a mistake of name while I was creating the old Article. Then, I corrected it & created above article. After that, I copied the whole wiki markup codes of the old page then pasted to above page. Currently it has been deleted. Please understand the matter & give me access to above page to create it for the school with all your help! Thanks..........

--MR 16:33, 17 July 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Manowiki123 (talk • contribs)

If I understand you correctly, what you are asking is for the deleted article Bandaranayake Central College, Veyangoda to be restored so that you can copy the text there and post it to another article. However, that article was deleted because it infringed copyright. We cannot restore content that infringes copyright to allow it to be copied, as doing so would be illegal. JamesBWatson (talk) 07:27, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

BLP PROD

Re : the final reference (Florida Times-Union) seems to me to be a valid reliable source, and that's why I rejected the BLP-PROD. I'm not saying the article should be kept, but I don't like deleting articles for invalid reasons.  An optimist on the run! 19:17, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

OK, I suppose to be technically accurate, the link in question is a valid reference for the fact that someone of the name Jeannie Greenwald has adopted a child of Chinese origin, which is mentioned in the Misplaced Pages article, and so you could say that it's a valid reference. However, unless I have missed something, nothing else in the article is referenced to a reliable source, and that trivial fact is not a significant part of the article, nor is it a reason for notability. It seems to me to be a rather pedantic interpretation of the BLPPROD policy to regard that as a valid reference. JamesBWatson (talk) 07:18, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

Pedant is my middle name :-)  An optimist on the run! 07:27, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

PhoenixMIXr

I note that you blocked PhoenixMIXr (talk · contribs). Bravo! Please have a look at WP:Sockpuppet investigations/PhoenixMIX and see if you have any input. Thanks! WikiDan61_ReadMe!! 20:48, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

Email

Yunshui 雲‍水 07:50, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

Udayar (caste)

Hi James, would you please block the IP (188.28.13.194 (talk · contribs · WHOIS)) continually vandalising this page - it's getting crazy. Thanks, Callanecc (talk • contribs) talkback (etc) template appreciated. 11:11, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for that. If only all the other rollbackers were willing to WP:DENY. Callanecc (talk • contribs) talkback (etc) template appreciated. 11:13, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

Funnily enough, I was actually looking at the IP's edit history considering how long to block for and what reason to give for the block while you posted the above request. Please feel free to contact me again if the trouble restarts after the block (or during the block via a different IP address). JamesBWatson (talk) 11:17, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

Thank you I'll do that. Generally if the block can't wait (ie the reported user is just being ridiculous (like this one)) I usually look through Special:Logs for an online admin and you were the name I recognised. Regards, Callanecc (talk • contribs) talkback (etc) template appreciated. 11:23, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

PhoenixMIX sockpuppet

Dear Mr. JamesBwatson,

It´s me PhoenixMIXr. I have understand that i should not doing damage to wikipedia. Please unblock my account. --217.255.226.75 (talk) 15:06, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

66.25.135.33

Hi. I see you blocked this person after I declined to do so at WP:AIV. I looked over their edits and their talk page and I didn't see any bad-faith vandalism nor did I see any efforts to welcome or explain to the person how we do things. I also saw just one warning, a draconian final notice.

I left a note for the complaining editor at User talk:Freshh#66.25.135.33. Am I missing something? At a time when there's concern about new editor recruitment and an excessively hostile environment for newbies, this seems sort of discouraging. --A. B. 16:19, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

• Thanks for prompting me to think again about this. I have reconsidered, and decided I agree with almost everything you say. I am not convinced that all the editing was done in 100% good faith, but I should have given the benefit of the doubt. I have removed the block and posted a welcome message. JamesBWatson (talk) 16:26, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

• Hmm. I have now looked at Freshh's talk page, and at Special:Contributions/24.28.64.91, and I think I may have been right in the first place. However, I'll leave it unblocked for now. JamesBWatson (talk) 16:29, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

Thanks. I, too, looked at that other IP but once again saw more BITE than bad faith. Both IPs are in the Austin, Texas area, so it's probably the same person.

My user page

Please don't edit my user page. My service level was not in error. Yworo (talk) 17:27, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

You claim to have 51,000 edits, whereas you are on record as having 38,302 (including deleted edits), and you claim to have 7 years of service, whereas your account was created on 1 June 2009, giving you just over three years' service. I assumed that the discrepancy between your claim and the record was an error, and by putting it right I was helping. Was it was not an error? JamesBWatson (talk) 19:18, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

Recall

Hi there. I have chosen you as one of the editors who may request my resignation as part of my recall procedure. Could you have a look, and confirm whether you're happy being on the list? Thanks. ItsZippy 20:41, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

Protect my user page

I don't want anyone to go changing my userpage.Receptie123 (talk) 05:57, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

Sorry

Sorry about those edits on Ekren's talk page. I didn't realise they were unhelpful.--Anderson - what's up? If you believe there has been a mistake, report it on my talk page. 07:44, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

Talkback|carlywgt5 - Southbound Brewing Company

Hi James - Could you please explain in what way the information given on the SBC page differs from all the examples I provided. I actually used them as a format and nothing is wrong with them. Please note back on the talk page for SBC. Carlywgt5 (talk) 20:33, 20 July 2012 (UTC)Carlywgt5

Sweetwater Brewing Company was no better, and has now been deleted. You may or may not have noticed that it was tagged as being written like an advertisement. At a quick glance, Terrapin Beer Company looks similar, but I don't have time to check now; I will try to do so within the next few days. Moon River Brewing Company looks as though it just may be more notable than the others, and again I'll try to look at it properly when I get time. Meanwhile, you may possibly find WP:OTHERSTUFF informative. JamesBWatson (talk) 20:43, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

Recreating the page Maya Chitram Art Institute

With due respect sir I would like to draw my attention that earlier the page has been deleted due to removing speedy at Maya Chitram Chitram Art Institute.As I was a new user for creating article in wikipedia I wasn't all acknowledged with the html codes and saw many other pages codes and tutorial to making the endeavor. I have not even seen the notification also where I can actually deal with the matter and as when I was about to understand the matter I was blocked. Taking about the page there is no doubt with its authenticity as its a Institute registered Under Society Registration Act 1961 with Reg. No. S/33019(81-82) Dt 11-08-1981 in Cooch Behar, West Bengal. For any further link you can asses with this link http://www.mayachitram.org and http://indiaforyou.in/ngos/ngodisplay.php?ngo=MAYA%20CHITRAM%20ART%20INSTITUTE. There is no conception of promotion its just a endeavor to let other people know about this Institute in Cooch Behar, West Bengal which all unique with its kind. This Institute has fostering the Culture of Cooch Behar since 1981 named under the legendary dancer Uday Shankar has a very close relation with Mamata Shankar and inaugurated by Governor Shri K. V. Raghunatha Reddy. I would like you to look over this matter and let me complete with the page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ahinkumardas (talk • contribs) 21:55, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

Unfortunately, I find some of what you have written somewhat difficult to understand. However, one of the things that you appear to be saying is that you did not see the messages warning you about removing the speedy deletion tags. I am always somewhat puzzled when this claim of not having seen messages comes up from new editors who have repeatedly removed speedy deletion tags from an article they have created, as I find it difficult to understand how anyone can miss the orange banner saying "You have new messages" and giving links to the user's talk page. however, if you did indeed manage to miss it, at least you know now, and it is unfortunate that it took a block to get your attention.

You say that "There is no conception of promotion", but I really don't see any other way of reading it. The article was full from start to finish of such language as "rendering sincere and dedicated service for the growth and development of artistic talent among children and the youth by imparting them a sound method obtaining fine art and culture", "providing its young talent adequate exposure", "rendering sincere and dedicated services to society", and "We cherished them and are proud of them because they have helped to maintain the unbroken immanency of our culture and civilization". Such language is clearly designed to tell us how good you think the institute is, not to inform us in a dispassionate way about what it is. A Misplaced Pages article needs to be written from a neutral point of view, and should not tell us that its subject is good or bad, worthwhile or worthless, noble or ignoble. An article should not tell us the personal opinions of the person or persons who contributed to writing it, or try to persuade us that the subject of the article is good, so that a method is "sound", that services are "sincere and dedicated", or that those who wrote the content of the article "cherished" something or "are proud" of it. Unfortunatley, I see that you have re-created the article with the same kind of promotional language, and it will be deleted again. If you wish to write Misplaced Pages articles that will stay in place, you need to write them from a neutral point of view, that is to say from the point of view of someone who has no opinion one way or the other whether the subject of the article is good, bad, or indifferent, but merely wishes to record objective and dispassionate information about it. JamesBWatson (talk) 14:22, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

Thank you sir for your response and I also concede the fact of neutral point of view after reading the article again. I have deleted the promotional lines from the article and also recollecting the facts regarding this article. Now there is only valid description regarding the Institute and please let me know about any more things that need to omit from the article. And again thank you sir for the reconsideration. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ahinkumardas (talk • contribs) 19:17, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

Goyden pot and New Goyden pot

Talkback/Chris Fox (Goydenman) (talk) 10:24, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

Ahem?

Did I really vandalize the page Can't Stop Me? Before you post a warning on my page look at this page -Afrojack- read the first four words in the article (in bold) and then say I vandalized the page. 178.16.6.194 (talk) 16:04, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

Afrojack's real name is Nick Van De Wall, and I am not vandalizing if I say Can't Stop Me is written by Nick Van De Wall instead of Afrojack. (It says N. Van De Wall in the linear notes, I expanded). And seeing as Nick Van De Wall should (or does) redirect to the Afrojack page then I make it say Nick Van De Wall and direct it to Afrojack. I don't see how that is vandalism what so ever. If you do not reply in the next five minutes then I will revert your revert to Can't Stop Me. Thanks. 178.16.6.194 (talk) 17:05, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

Sorry if I got it wrong. A word of advice to avoid future misunderstandings: giving an edit summary, even if only a few words, to indicate what you are doing, helps. JamesBWatson (talk) 20:58, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

Hi, I went off yesterday (my IP address has changed again), that's fine. I assume you were just patrolling recent changes and saw Nick Van De Wall, and thought it was a bit weird (as you may or may not know who Afrojack is), this is fine I'm happy with your explanation. Maybe it would have been better if you were to check my edits and see that they were all good faith. 87.254.87.148 (talk) 12:47, 22 July 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for your feedback

But I didn't request your input, so please mind your own business. --Intimidated 16:57, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

NFL Player Engagement Page

JamesBWatson please forward a copy of the deleted NFL Player Engagement page, I'll be re-doing it to ensure full compliance with Wiki policies and not to imply any bias. Thanks, — Preceding unsigned comment added by CareerUpdate (talk • contribs) 21:59, 22 July 2012 (UTC)

This user left the same request on my talk page yesterday: here. Eagles 24/7 (C) 00:04, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

Yes. See answer there. JamesBWatson (talk) 08:17, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

The editor under the bridge

Of course you are being trolled. The block was good and appropriate, as were the declines to lift the block. You have gone above and beyond in your application of good faith, and you have bent over backwards in your attempts to communicate and address concerns. Now you are just being toyed with; best to just let the troll serve out his block without providing more entertainment for him. Kudos, however, on the superhuman display of patience. Regards, Xenophrenic (talk) 00:26, 23 July 2012 (UTC) JamesBWatson (talk) 08:13, 23 July 2012 (UTC)Yes. I have also removed talk page access. JamesBWatson (talk) 08:13, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

Benjamil Goebbels

James,

Misplaced Pages policy exhorts us to "assume good faith" - I invariably do so, once. You have decided to step into a controversy where user:Benjamil and his allies repeatedly reverted my careful edits to the Eurabia article. You have taken it upon yourself to warn me - but not him - over an "edit war". Have you looked into the substance of what is going on? What is happening is that Benjamil (helped by one other user, probably a sockpuppet) has been hijacking the Eurabia page, insisting that the lede of the article relegate the term "Eurabia" to the pariah status of a "conspiracy theory" before giving a neutral definition. The correct NPOV approach is to first define what Bat Ye'or and others mean by the term in the lede, then go on to state that some people have criticized this as a "conspiracy theory", and what exactly that charge means according to those critics.

Bat Ye'or's "Eurabia" can be partially viewed on Google Books.

Regards, WikiFlier (talk) 16:50, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

P.S.: Note that I am NOT, and other editors are NOT, advocating for the mirror opposite position - that the "Eurabia" hypothesis couldn't possibly be wrong, or couldn't possibly be irrational or a "conspiracy theory" - by all means let's acknowledge and document what various critics say.

P.P.S: Civility is nice, but granting a "hecklers' veto" to loudmouths and organized interest groups will simply open the floodgates to even more widespread intimidation and hijacking of "their" subjects by ruthless political interest groups such as those represented by Benjamil Goebbels. WikiFlier (talk) 17:06, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

P.P.P.S.: I have now made an unrelated edit to the "Eurabia" page adding pertinent background concerning "Mattias Gardell" - he is a pro-Palestinian activist who with his wife took part in the "Ship to Gaza" action as indicated in the cited sources. This is clearly relevant to balance the alleged neutrality of Gardell's judgments implicit in the reference to his status of professor at the University of Uppsala. The new information and sources were taken from the existing Mattias Gardell page (which I have never edited). Let's see how long Benjamil Goebbels and his sockpuppets take to delete these unwelcome details from "their" article. WikiFlier (talk) 18:38, 23 July 2012 (UTC)