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The external link I put to the Process Analytics page

Kuru,

I got your message and understand that people should not be promoting products and services in a wiki page. One of the major areas of Process Analysis lacking in todays world in my opinion is using analytics to the improvement of business processes in process improvement initiatives. Whether someone is using ITIL, Lean or Six Sigma as their methodology, nowhere in any of these methodologies(other than Lean), do they discuss using variability, time and cost to a process map to generate metrics on cycle time, takt, execution metrics, etc to get a better understanding of how the current state process is handling demand, etc.

What we have done is build a simple interface in Microsoft Visio that allows anyone to put in a few metrics regarding variability, process time, duration and who does the work in the steps in the process and they can get meaningful results. The product is 100% free.

In your professional opinion, how should I get the word out about using simple analytics in process analysis?

Rkurzarc (talk) 12:30, 17 April 2012 (UTC)

Hire a professional marketing team. You may not promote your product here. Kuru (talk) 12:40, 17 April 2012 (UTC)

Abuse Filter on the Article Feedback Tool

Hey there :). You're being contacted because you're an edit filter manager, At the moment, we're developing Version 5 of the Article Feedback Tool, which you may or may not have heard about. If you haven't; for the first time, this will involve a free-text box where readers can submit comments :). Obviously, there's going to be junk, and we want to minimise that junk. To do so, we're working the Abuse Filter into the tool.

For this to work, we need people to write and maintain filters. I'd be very grateful if you could take a look at the discussion here and the attached docs, and comment and contribute! Thanks :). Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 18:21, 17 April 2012 (UTC)

my recent link

Kura

I fully understand that spam and commercial links are not wanted on Wiki - I would like to ask what is the difference in your words between that and a link to a pefectly decent article which contains furter information on a page (such as the benefits ralsation page), where the article contains important and contains orginal work, and is intended to define a topic which to date carries great interest but very little understanding in business?

kevin

PS - if you paste the link into copyscape you will see that many people have found the content of the said page relevant enough to copy the enitire page verbatum - waybackwhen.com can demonmstarte that we are the originators and true copyright owners of this article — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ktlonergan (talk • contribs) 16:49, 18 April 2012 (UTC)

The primary reason I removed the link, as noted in the edit summary, is that you have added this link as a footnote reference, even though it does not support anything in the article. If this material is published in editor controlled or peer reviewed environment, then it may be used as a reference, but will need to be supporting something in the article specifically. As it is, you seem to simply be adding a general link that ends in a plug for your company. Perhaps you could would to improve the article and cite neutral sources as references, that's what you're here for, correct? Kuru (talk) 19:47, 18 April 2012 (UTC)

Anti-Edit Warrior...Warrior Award

Atheism

Dear Kuru, I just thought I would let you know that I opened an RfC at the talk page of the atheism article. Your monitoring of the situation would be appreciated! I hope you have a nice day. With regards, Anupam 00:43, 23 April 2012 (UTC)

3RRNB, "stale"

Hi. I appreciate your attention to my 3RR report here but I disagree with your summary: "it appears the primary involved editors have worked out a consensus and no reverts have occurred for a day. A block here would be punitive." I stopped editing the article while waiting for the report to be evaluated. I think the other two assessments at the 3RRNB are incorrect in asserting that User:RC is allowed to edit war for consensus. As other admins have ruled in similar cases, this is not an exception to the 3RR rule. And the difficult editor is strong-handing others at another film article, The Godfather, so his tendentiousness continues. (Please see my talkpage thread User_talk:El_duderino#Ring_Cinema). So I politely ask you to reconsider your judgement of 'Stale.' This is my last attempt for preventative action. I won't belabor the point here again. Thank you. El duderino 19:16, 23 April 2012 (UTC)

Sorry, the report at ANEW is not any less stale now. If there's an ongoing problem with user behavior, consider a user RFC or a detailed report at ANI if there's really something wrong. I'm afraid I don't see anything with a cursory look; I'm not the type of admin who will block someone for being 'passive-aggressive'. You'll need a very specific and long term violation of policy for me to act on a long term editor. Kuru (talk) 22:11, 23 April 2012 (UTC)

RfC at Atheism

Anupam is of the understanding that you are overseeing the closure of the RfC he posted at Talk:Atheism. "The administrator who protected the article, User:Kuru, is going to close the RfC when he feels it is appropriate.". Is this correct? aprock (talk) 23:44, 23 April 2012 (UTC)

Anyone can evaluate the RFC and close it; if it needs to be closed. I'd love to help, but I'm on a business trip this week and will be unable to do anything but quick watchlist runs until Friday. Kuru (talk) 10:30, 24 April 2012 (UTC)

SolutionInn

Hi Dear, I want to know that why my page is deleted and how can i make it sustainable? I not advertise this but just posted as an informative manners. my page was SolutionInn. — Preceding unsigned comment added by BillMarz (talk • contribs) 12:09, 28 April 2012 (UTC)

It was an unsourced article with no indication of notability, laced with puffery. If you're in the process of removing the advertising and adding reliable third-party sources, I'd be happy to undelete the article and move it into a sandbox for you, if you will read WP:COI. Kuru (talk) 12:35, 28 April 2012 (UTC)

Fictitious event at YPF

Kuru:

Thank you for your efforts toward dispute resolution at YPF.

I understood your points and agree. As to the alleged event itself (the sole sticking point remaining between myself and the other two editors), I have this source from a major newspaper in Spain quoting a first-hand witness as stating unequivocally that no such incident took place, and that to the contrary, the 16 dismissed executives were treated with the proper formalities and were chauffeured home after their dismissal. The newspaper is a conservative publication in Spain (making them one of the least likely in the world to write anything in defense of the renationalization of YPF), and the witness was at the time of the events (April 16) Repsol's own spokesman at YPF (Repsol owned YPF from 1999 until April 16th last).

Whether the story is repeated in the Financial Times, Economist, or anywhere else in the media echo chamber, any anonymous claims to the contrary fly in the face of a directly-quoted first-hand account (by somebody obviously opposed to the takeover, as he was among those who was laid off), and thus cannot be left in the article as though it were fact.

Thanks again for your time. I look forward to your thoughts.

All the best, Sherlock4000 (talk) 03:42, 4 May 2012 (UTC)

This is material that should be presented on the article's talk page and discussed with the editors you are having difficulties with. If there are multiple, contradicting reliable sources, it is likely that both sides should be presented if they are credible. Kuru (talk) 11:31, 4 May 2012 (UTC)

"Business Professional"

Are you prepared to give us proles a more specific hint as to what it is you do? Go on... Egg Centric 00:28, 11 May 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

Canterbury Boys' High School

G'day. You recently blocked one of a number of socks that I have reported at Misplaced Pages:Sockpuppet_investigations/Ali2190. Mind blocking the others and closing the report? Cheers. ˜danjel  11:51, 21 May 2012 (UTC)

This seems to have been fully resolved by other admins. Kuru (talk) 02:10, 22 May 2012 (UTC)

Cheers. :) ˜danjel  07:58, 22 May 2012 (UTC)

Deletion of Company Profile

I submitted a a short reference article about one of the largest chemical manufactures/distributors in Europe. For some reason you deleted the article which included both references and links. I would like to know why you deleted our article when there are so many other articles about other companies in our field such as Du Pont, Bayer, etc. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Henry-hilde (talk • contribs) 19:29, 30 May 2012 (UTC)

Always happy to review and provide feedback, but I see no deleted articles in your contributions. Can you provide me the name of the account you used to create the article, or the specific name of the article? If it was non-notable or promotional, we can restore a draft in your sandbox so you can work on it (note that I cannot do this if it was deleted as a copyright problem). Kuru (talk) 00:54, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

Removal Of Links

Hi there. You recently removed many of the edits I made. It was obvious that though my account was made a while ago, I had only recently started being active on Misplaced Pages. I had started going through pages and looking for dead links to replace. I would then attempt to find the content that was there previously but on another site, as much of that content has been syndicated out to other sites. Apparently though, a 404 page is better than the original content that was linked to originally? I'm sorry if I misunderstand as I mentioned I am new at this. I did read the link about the verifiable sources, but I'm kind of torn on what is the best way to go about handling these 404 pages, as there are many that I find all over Misplaced Pages. Some guidance on that issue would be appreciated as I find this the easiest way for me to help clean up and keep pages up to date. Kaedus (talk) 03:46, 1 June 2012 (UTC)

You're not linking to content "syndicated out to other sites", you're linking to spam sites that are hosting pilfered copies of the original content. In at least one case, you replaced a working archive link with a spam one. Frankly, these links were clearly inappropriate. In a few of the cases, the content merely moved to another part of the site. If you'd like to help, please use archive links, fix the links, or find a true syndicate version of the text with a clear copyright status on a non-spam site. Thanks. Kuru (talk) 11:40, 1 June 2012 (UTC)

New user

Maybe you have knowledge to address this, if it needs to be addressed. San Antonio has a new unregistered Editor, who is making a lot of what I assume are good-faith edits. Several hundred within the last week. A lot of those are cosmetic and not necessarily helpful. I've reversed a couple on pages I'm watching, and you can see I've left the user a message on their talk page. One thing, is this person is going through anything on San Antonio and sticking "Downtown" in front of it everywhere. And sticking "USA" at the end. Here I believe these are good faith, and some of them enhance the articles. But some aren't helpful. Maybe you could offer this person some direction or advice to help. Goodness knows, it's great to have someone interested in Texas articles.Maile66 (talk) 22:06, 4 June 2012 (UTC)

Not sure I'd capitalize downtown, but most of his edits look fine. As you noted, it's great to have another editor in the region playing around. :) Kuru (talk) 02:14, 5 June 2012 (UTC)

A bowl of strawberries for you!

Some Redirect Help

Could I get your help/input/advice in moving Gemuendina stuertzi and Nefudina qalibahensis‎ to Gemuendina and Nefudina, respectively? I tried to request a technical request for the moves, but, then they simply opened up threads on the talkpages.--Mr Fink (talk) 18:43, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

User:Camoka4 now at ANI

He Kuru, you blocked Camoka4 breaking the 3 revert rule at Schengen Area. You may want to comment, or act on his current behaviour at Schengen Area (IMO the edit warring hasn't stopped) or react at the ANI thread... Cheers! L.tak (talk) 07:55, 14 June 2012 (UTC)

Discussion at ANI on banning LPC

LouisPhilippeCharles (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log)

In the past you have been involved in a block/unblock procedure either on the sockmaster account of LouisPhilippeCharles or an account of one of the sockpuppets. Please see WP:ANI#LouisPhilippeCharles -- PBS (talk) 20:31, 17 June 2012 (UTC)

CITDigital Removal in Factoring article

Hello Kuru,

I wanted to place concerns on behalf of the Digital Team at CIT. Please do not assoicate this account with CIT as I am reaching you though it due to the fact that you have blocked the talk rights of the CITdigital account.

I want to apologize for he misunderstanding, the goal of the CITdigital group is not to promote traffic to cit.com or any of the CIT business platforms. The goal is to stablish our Factoring University initiative as a resource to learn about the topic of factoring in a simple and concise manner, it is for that reason that I added external links to Factoring University material so that anyone can get easy to digest information on the topic.

Please exlain different suggestions in which Factoring University can serve as a resource to Misplaced Pages without infringing its guidelines against company promotions and advertising.

Again I apologize for the inconvinience as I am coming to familiarize myself with adding content to wikipedia and was not adecuatelly informed of the restrictions involved with this process.

Kind Regards, Merlin Valdez Digital Content Intern at CIT merlin.valdez@cit.com — Preceding unsigned comment added by Merlinvaldez (talk • contribs) 16:13, 21 June 2012 (UTC)

The account was blocked since the name and actions indicates it is a role account or a promotional account. Creating a new account that is not tied to your organization is a good first step. Unfortunately, if your goal is to continue to add promotional material for your firm, you will likely wind up blocked again. Instead of promoting your site, perhaps you'd like to add content sourced to reliable sources instead? That's the primary reason most of us are here. Kuru (talk) 11:14, 22 June 2012 (UTC)

MEAP

Hi Kuru,

You are right saying that Convertigo is not cited in the Gartner Magic Quadrant, but you have to consider the following facts.

• To appear in a Magic Quadrant, Companies must have at least 25M$ revenue, thus lots of Startups are automatically excluded even though they lead a specific market share.
• the MEAP market is a new market rising so new Vendors appear by the side of Huge companies.
• Usually Europeans vendors have more difficulties to appear in Gartner's MQ.
• Other companies such as Kony Solutions are not in Gartner's MQ but cited as Vendor in this article.

Convertigo is a leading European vendor in Mobile Enterprise Application platform having more than 300 customers worldwide. We use them in our Company which is one of the biggest European Bank. I really do no see why Convertigo should not be in the Vendors section.

best Rds, Wulkanman (talk) 05:05, 22 June 2012 (UTC)

Unbound lists of "vendors" turn into a random list of promotional spam. If you feel the current criteria for inclusion on the list is inadequate, please use the article's talk page to propose alternate criteria. If you have checked the source, and another vendor does not meet the existing criteria, please feel free to remove it. Kuru (talk) 11:11, 22 June 2012 (UTC)

Removal of Company Aspen Pharma

Article List of companies of South Africa/Health care section.

Aspen Pharma is one of the largest pharmaceutical and chemical manufacturers/distributors in South Africa. For some reason you deleted my addition without consultation. Would it satisfy your criteria with articles such as Adcock Ingram and Bayer? Aliwal2012 (talk) 17:24, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

As noted, the sole reason for the removal from the list was the non-existence of an established article. As it is one of the largest pharmas in the country, it should be fairly trivial to create an article on the firm. I'd be delighted to help you make one; I'll create a "sandbox" version in your userspace when I get a few free minutes and we can work on it there. Kuru (talk) 22:26, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

Hi Kuru, thanks for creating Aspen Pharmacare, u did me & wikipedia a huge favour with the company research! Being a pharmacist myself, I missed some detail you kindly included :) Aliwal2012 (talk) 07:39, 1 July 2012 (UTC)

Hi, I'm afraid to say, we walked into a trap with this ASPEN article's "parent company"; it seems not to be "ASPEN Pharmacare", since they don't mfr scheduled medicine (iow prescription drugs), only consumer items like Prep and Brylcream! My money will be on ASPEN Pharma (holding company) Aliwal2012 (talk) 10:49, 2 July 2012 (UTC)

Question: What will the best name be for this article (the correct company name)? Aliwal2012 (talk) 15:38, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

I've replied to this at Talk:Aspen Pharmacare. Kuru (talk) 14:50, 4 July 2012 (UTC)

Removal of External Links

Hi,

You removed both entries I placed. The first citation was "Cursory Blog Entry" - I'm hoping that after I make revisions (adding depth), you'll let me replace the entry.

The second one you removed by citing "Low Blog Content". I am also hoping that after I've built up the site, I can get the link back.

Please let me know if there are any other issues. Thanks.

Xperlandro (talk) 23:07, 29 June 2012 (UTC) Xperlandro (June 29, 2012)

A better idea would be simply not to worry about placing links to your blog (see WP:COI), and work on improving the content of the articles in question. We're here to build an encyclopedia, not drive traffic to your site. Please consider using your knowledge on the topics to build material here with references to reliable sources. Kuru (talk) 23:11, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

I'll be more than happy to contribute as long as you're not insinuating that my site or what I have to offer is "unreliable". That'd be a total waste of time for everyone.

I noticed other sites linked externally, so I placed mine in good faith. Moreover, I wasn't using words like "invaluable source" to link back to my site, as you'd find on that page. If that's not "promotional", I don't know what is. Xperlandro (talk) 23:43, 29 June 2012 (UTC) Xperlandro (June 29, 2012)

My apologies, the term "reliable source" has a specific definition here; you can read it at WP:RS. In no way will a personal blog be consider a valid source for material here (with few exceptions that do not apply in this context), but it is not intended to dispute or cast aspersions on the accuracy of your site. For references, you will need to use published third party sources. If you would actually like to contribute, I can help you with referencing style, or if your're interested in patrolling and removing poor external links, I can help you with that as well. Kuru (talk) 00:05, 30 June 2012 (UTC)

Pending reports

There are a few pending reports, one is being made by me on the page Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring, Kindly review them. Thanks Clarificationgiven (talk) 09:47, 30 June 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the note, but I usually spend a lot of time handling each case. As such, my involvement there is limited to when I have larger blocks of free time for research and follow-up (I hate to close a gray one and then run off). This is usually on weekends... Kuru (talk) 14:52, 4 July 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

Thanks ! Kuru (talk) 14:50, 4 July 2012 (UTC)

Please view here. Altetendekrabbe continues to edit-war on the same article. Ankh.Morpork 12:50, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

Reported here Ankh.Morpork 13:19, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

My apologies, but I usually have very little time during the week to look at 3RR cases. They are fairly time consuming and I hate to take an action and then become immediately unavailable to explain myself should there be a problem. Kuru (talk) 02:41, 12 July 2012 (UTC)

A cup of coffee for you!

Sockpuppet of User:Wwecenarules2

Since you blocked User:Wwecenarules2 for 24 hours for disruptive editing, you might also want to check out her blatant sockpuppet. Thanks, CyanGardevoir 01:54, 9 July 2012 (UTC)

Si. That was the account I was referring to with "and on your other account". If she uses it in the next 24 hours, I'll block it. I'm trying not to be too aggressive with a young editor. Will see how things change after the block. Thank you for the note. Kuru (talk) 02:59, 9 July 2012 (UTC)

Random trolling

Is there any reason to explain why this user is being given a free run? Mar4d (talk) 12:16, 10 July 2012 (UTC)

Never mind, someone's handled the issue. Mar4d (talk) 16:25, 10 July 2012 (UTC)

FCC Oakdale

The user XLR8TION seems to think he owns this page, judging by what he writes on the article's talk page. He says that I must stick with a certain "format" that all wikipedia articles supposedly have, but I have extensively edited quite a few of the federal prison articles and have received no objection from anyone. MDEVER802 (talk) 21:41, 14 July 2012 (UTC)

bpmbooks name change and links

Hi Kuru - I read your instructions to change my user name. The name reflects my interests, it is not a company. However, I have complied and requested a change accordingly. I also noted your comment about links. I am the External Relations chair of the Workflow Management Coalition (see our wiki) and I was tasked last week (following a Steering Committee meeting) with reviewing relevant wikis in our field on Workflow, BPM, Business Processes etc. with a view to correcting and updating information on our official books and publications. Future Strategies Inc., is our publishing company for the educational outreach on our book publications and papers. Future Strategies (FSI) also manages our awards programs. I am associated with FSI as editor and publisher on behalf of WfMC. I was previously the Executive Director of the Coalition. The content of our books comprise the contributions of process thought leaders in this industry who volunteer to share their expertise with the community. We have been publishing books on BPM and Workflow since 1993 to help educate those seeking knowledge on this topic. As I reviewed the wikis in our field, I noticed that it seemed to be common practice to include the URL of publications listed, so I used these as my example. My only intention was to update publications in Further Reading with the exception of our own wiki which required updating of our current awards programs. You appear to have reversed everything, however. I trust this background enables you to understand the motivation for a seemingly large number of contributions in the past 24 hours. We are certainly not spammers. kind regards Bpmbooks (talk) 03:13, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

About the dumbest admin action I've seen in awhile

Congratulations. You've just amply rewarded tag teaming, disruptive behavior and general assholery by an obnoxious group of users by instituting the block on Altetendekrabbe .

Way to incentivize users to engage in more tag teaming, disruptive behavior and general assholery. And people wonder why the project's dying.VolunteerMarek 11:49, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

Other general assholery doesn't excuse the edit-warring. That's why we have wP:DR (✉→BWilkins←✎) 11:53, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

It may be more constructive to provide a general outline of an issue I may be missing than you fly into a rant. If you feel there is a wider problem than just an apparent edit warrior who may not be able to control himself and is continually hitting the bright line wall despite numerous attempts to explain dispute resolution steps and declined ANEW requests, I'm willing to listen. You are also, free to ask for a review of my actions at ANI. Kuru (talk) 11:59, 19 July 2012 (UTC)