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::{{xt|the information is redundant}} -- Not entirely, no. The main article contains no chronologically sorted overview. You may argue that that's not sufficient to justify a separate page, but there is in fact information in the schedule page that isn't currently included in the main article in any form. --] (]) 09:59, 10 June 2012 (UTC) | ::{{xt|the information is redundant}} -- Not entirely, no. The main article contains no chronologically sorted overview. You may argue that that's not sufficient to justify a separate page, but there is in fact information in the schedule page that isn't currently included in the main article in any form. --] (]) 09:59, 10 June 2012 (UTC) | ||
*'''Keep''' This is really useful. ] (]) 17:57, 9 June 2012 (UTC) | *'''Keep''' This is really useful. ] (]) 17:57, 9 June 2012 (UTC) | ||
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*'''Keep''' Encyclopaedic information in a reader friendly form that Misplaced Pages does so well. This at a glance information will be as valid in 1,000 years as it is today. The only real question is where to place the chart - is it better in a click-through stand-alone, or embedded in the main article in a collapsible. Not really a question for AfD. ''']''' ''']''' 18:02, 9 June 2012 (UTC) | *'''Keep''' Encyclopaedic information in a reader friendly form that Misplaced Pages does so well. This at a glance information will be as valid in 1,000 years as it is today. The only real question is where to place the chart - is it better in a click-through stand-alone, or embedded in the main article in a collapsible. Not really a question for AfD. ''']''' ''']''' 18:02, 9 June 2012 (UTC) | ||
*'''Keep''' Extremely useful article which I myself have had stickied in my browser for the past week. I can't fathom why anyone would be so anal as to nominate this for deletion. --] (]) 18:30, 9 June 2012 (UTC) | *'''Keep''' Extremely useful article which I myself have had stickied in my browser for the past week. I can't fathom why anyone would be so anal as to nominate this for deletion. --] (]) 18:30, 9 June 2012 (UTC) | ||
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*'''Keep''' I strongly agree that this page should not be deleted as it contains all relevant info about the match results. ] (]) 19:03, 9 June 2012 (UTC) | *'''Keep''' I strongly agree that this page should not be deleted as it contains all relevant info about the match results. ] (]) 19:03, 9 June 2012 (UTC) | ||
*:] also contain all the relevant info about the match results. ] <sup><font color="#E3A857">]</font></sup><sub> <font color="#008000">]</font></sub> 12:41, 10 June 2012 (UTC) | |||
*'''Speedy Keep''' Needs to be fleshed out, but it is notable. Nominator's assertion that there is no coverage is false. Just Google "Euro 2012 schedule". ] (]) 20:45, 9 June 2012 (UTC) | *'''Speedy Keep''' Needs to be fleshed out, but it is notable. Nominator's assertion that there is no coverage is false. Just Google "Euro 2012 schedule". ] (]) 20:45, 9 June 2012 (UTC) | ||
*:But they only contain the schedule and don't discuss it in detail. ] <sup><font color="#E3A857">]</font></sup><sub> <font color="#008000">]</font></sub> 12:41, 10 June 2012 (UTC) | |||
*'''Keep''' THis is extremely useful and is not redundant at all: it organises the matches by date, not by group. Definitely do NOT delete this - it will be a huge loss of a very useful page. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 12:04, 10 June 2012 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | *'''Keep''' THis is extremely useful and is not redundant at all: it organises the matches by date, not by group. Definitely do NOT delete this - it will be a huge loss of a very useful page. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 12:04, 10 June 2012 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | ||
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UEFA Euro 2012 schedule
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It is a totally redundant content fork to UEFA Euro 2012. Every date, venue and result information can be found on this article. There is no meaning to make a separate article for a schedule. Article also doesn't meed the GNG, as there are no independent coverage in reliable sources, which discuss the schedule of this competition. Armbrust, B.Ed. The Undertaker 20–0 22:28, 8 June 2012 (UTC)
- Delete as per the reason above, the article content covered in main article on the tournament already. No need to merge.Seasider91 (talk) 23:12, 8 June 2012 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Football-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 00:01, 9 June 2012 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 00:01, 9 June 2012 (UTC)
- 169.587 hits in a single day say speedy keep and snowball close. Moreover, the schedule page presents the data at-a-glance in a userfriendly table format that is nevertheless not useful for the main article. Thus, the page greatly increases reader access to a specific data subset. Imho it would be a disservice to readers to delete/redirect the page. You may notice how I keep using the word "page" instead of "article", because obviously the page is not a full article by any measure. The question is: does it have to be? What's the harm in offering the reader a highly useful overview over this highly notable set of data? Why not propose merger or deletion after the competition is concluded? Why does it have to be right now? --195.14.221.65 (talk) 05:58, 9 June 2012 (UTC)
- WP:ITSUSEFUL and WP:PAGEVIEWSTATS are not valid reasons to keep any article. Armbrust, B.Ed. The Undertaker 20–0 07:37, 9 June 2012 (UTC)
- My arguments provide an excellent reason not to nominate the page for deletion in the first place. Again: Why not propose merger or deletion after the competition is concluded? Why does it have to be right now? I also reject your characterization of my reasoning as WP:ITSUSEFUL, which clearly states that this concerns only !votes without argumentation. I did provide my reasoning for why exactly the page is useful, therefore WP:ITSUSEFUL does not apply. You may want to actually read essays before citing them. If you don't agree with my reasoning that the main article does not present an at-a-glance overview of the schedule, just say so. But please don't pretend that I didn't present any reasoning, that's simply not collegial or honest. --195.14.221.65 (talk) 12:19, 9 June 2012 (UTC)
- WP:ITSUSEFUL and WP:PAGEVIEWSTATS are not valid reasons to keep any article. Armbrust, B.Ed. The Undertaker 20–0 07:37, 9 June 2012 (UTC)
- Delete Euro 2012 already has the schedule information, but redirect could be useful. Brandmeister 09:43, 9 June 2012 (UTC)
- Keep The article shouldn't be deleted, because it provides all information on matches timing. However, the Euro 2012 page just provides the schedule on a group basis which is inconvenient (because you have through every group to know the schedule. A.h. king • Talk to me! 14:17, 9 June 2012 (UTC)
- There are separate entries on every match of the group stage and they contain the related schedule, see UEFA_Euro_2012#Group_stage. Brandmeister 14:35, 9 June 2012 (UTC)
- It is more convenient to have all the schedule in one article. A.h. king • Talk to me! 18:11, 9 June 2012 (UTC)
- There are separate entries on every match of the group stage and they contain the related schedule, see UEFA_Euro_2012#Group_stage. Brandmeister 14:35, 9 June 2012 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. We're not TV Guide, and the information is redundant. Ask yourself this question: "Will the information this page be at all useful six months from now?" The answer vhere is no, and therefore this isn't material for Misplaced Pages. Sven Manguard Wha? 14:56, 9 June 2012 (UTC)
- Ask yourself this question: "Is the page useful right now?" Then what's the hurry? Why not delete it after Euro 2012 has concluded? Why right now? --195.14.221.65 (talk) 16:21, 9 June 2012 (UTC)
- the information is redundant -- Not entirely, no. The main article contains no chronologically sorted overview. You may argue that that's not sufficient to justify a separate page, but there is in fact information in the schedule page that isn't currently included in the main article in any form. --195.14.207.176 (talk) 09:59, 10 June 2012 (UTC)
- Keep This is really useful. Secretlondon (talk) 17:57, 9 June 2012 (UTC)
- Keep Encyclopaedic information in a reader friendly form that Misplaced Pages does so well. This at a glance information will be as valid in 1,000 years as it is today. The only real question is where to place the chart - is it better in a click-through stand-alone, or embedded in the main article in a collapsible. Not really a question for AfD. SilkTork 18:02, 9 June 2012 (UTC)
- Keep Extremely useful article which I myself have had stickied in my browser for the past week. I can't fathom why anyone would be so anal as to nominate this for deletion. --Schcambo (talk) 18:30, 9 June 2012 (UTC)
- Keep I strongly agree that this page should not be deleted as it contains all relevant info about the match results. Trelos physikos (talk) 19:03, 9 June 2012 (UTC)
- UEFA Euro 2012 also contain all the relevant info about the match results. Armbrust, B.Ed. The Undertaker 20–0 12:41, 10 June 2012 (UTC)
- Speedy Keep Needs to be fleshed out, but it is notable. Nominator's assertion that there is no coverage is false. Just Google "Euro 2012 schedule". Tchaliburton (talk) 20:45, 9 June 2012 (UTC)
- But they only contain the schedule and don't discuss it in detail. Armbrust, B.Ed. The Undertaker 20–0 12:41, 10 June 2012 (UTC)
- Keep THis is extremely useful and is not redundant at all: it organises the matches by date, not by group. Definitely do NOT delete this - it will be a huge loss of a very useful page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.68.75.29 (talk) 12:04, 10 June 2012 (UTC)