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Guest stars on ER

Hello all; I rewatched the ER episode Love's Labor Lost last night for the first time in years as I intend to expand it's article in the coming months. Unlike most programmes, it credits 'co-starring' and 'featuring' actors/actresses, so does anyone know how to differentiate them in the 'Guests' section in the infobox? Cheers -- Lemonade51 (talk) 18:47, 27 March 2012 (UTC)

You could insert a line to act as a header for each type in the infobox list, but I would really just list the actors all at once, keeping "co-stars" above "featured" actors. GRAPPLE X 11:53, 28 March 2012 (UTC)

Cheers, will do so. – Lemonade51 (talk) 08:56, 29 March 2012 (UTC)

Pilot (Sports Night)

I've created and expanded Pilot (Sports Night), and it could easily become a good article if someone wants add some more info, but does anyone know where to get the Nielsen ratings for the episode. I can only find a season preview and overall season ranking. 03md 02:31, 30 March 2012 (UTC)

I have created two pilot episodes "Pilot" (The Cosby Show) and "Hill Street Station" that have good GA prospects. I think any award-winning Pilot episode could easily achieve GA. I suggest using Google news and searching on the show name for all articles during or before the month that the show debuted. I also did a similar search on ProQuest via the Chicago Public Library.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 23:26, 30 March 2012 (UTC)

P.S. I would research Sports Night for you using these tools, but I never watched even part of an episode of the show and feel articles should be written by people who watched the shows.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 23:41, 30 March 2012 (UTC)

If you want to expand the Sports Night Pilot, I'd start with Google News search.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 03:15, 31 March 2012 (UTC)

• I never watched it when it was on, but have watched almost the whole first season on Netflix so feel qualifed to write the article. 03md 00:38, 4 April 2012 (UTC)

• I did not know it was on Netflix streaming. Well take a shot at it if you are qualified. Those links I posted above should help.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 01:17, 4 April 2012 (UTC)

Emmy Episode submissions

I have notice that since 2007 (59th Primetime Emmy Awards) episode submissions are included for acting awards. Is there a way to note that the award is not episode specific in the acting categories (except guest and voice) as it is in some categories such as directing and writing? Maybe we could reduce the fontsize or use an asterisk when it is not awarded for the episode.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 16:22, 4 April 2012 (UTC)

The Avengers

Hi. I've started the pilot episode Hot Snow (The Avengers). If anybody is interested in helping me start episodes on the Avengers let me know!♦ Dr. Blofeld 12:39, 5 April 2012 (UTC)

WikiProject Heroes

Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Heroes (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

This WikiProject is under discussion, and the proposal is converting this Project to a task force. The show is cancelled, and I don't watch Heroes anymore. I wonder if anybody here is interested. --George Ho (talk) 15:42, 6 April 2012 (UTC)

Creating a task force for Cheers-related articles

• Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Cheers · ( talk | logs | links | watch | mfd ) ·

The WikiProject Cheers was a failure, so I wonder if anybody here is interested in creating a task force of the show Cheers. I have done Sam and Diane, Sam Malone, Diane Chambers (and my version), Frasier Crane (and my version), "Give Me a Ring Sometime", "I Do, Adieu", and "One for the Road" (Cheers). --George Ho (talk) 17:39, 6 April 2012 (UTC)

You can propose a new task force for the project without an RFC. Ruby2010's Fringe proposal would be a good example to steal the formatting from; and simply ask interested editors to drop by and register their interest in getting it off the ground. For what it's worth, it might be a good idea to lump Frasier in with this particular proposal, they share the same fictional universe and you double the scope of—and therefore, the interest in—the task force. GRAPPLE X 23:42, 6 April 2012 (UTC)

Hate to be frank, but, even if Cheers and Frasier are related in some ways, I don't know if I want to add a new discussion in an archived page of Cheers proposal. Nevertheless, I think I might go for the Frasier task force either here or there. I was advised that a proposal be here per instructions. --George Ho (talk) 00:31, 7 April 2012 (UTC)

New Proposal created

I have created a task force proposal. Come to Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Council/Proposals/Cheers for discussion. --George Ho (talk) 04:50, 20 April 2012 (UTC)

Episode summaries in List/Season articles

Recently I added some season finale summaries for several different series articles. Most were two-four weeks out and very simple. A couple of my additions were removed by other editors because they were "unsourced". When, if ever, have we ref-linked "summaries" past, present or future? Airdates and episode titles, sure, but summaries? I understand about possible copyvios, but if put into Wiki-speak/own words, do they need sourcing? Thanks for any/all responses. — WylieCoyote (talk) 20:22, 6 April 2012 (UTC)

First question that pops to mind: Was there anything in the synopsis that read ans OR or synth? Second: How long were they?

If they were brief and didn't read as ad copy, they should have been fine I would think.

And as an aside... I'm assumming by "episode titles" you are talking about cases where a title screen isn't part of the episode.

- J Greb (talk) 20:42, 6 April 2012 (UTC)

They were "ShortSummaries" put into the episodes on the Seasonal articles/List of Episodes. And only a sentence or two, short ones, maybe 20 words, tops.

I thought so too.

By "episode titles" I meant those on Season/List pages that are future episode titles and sourced, along with the airdates.

I am also not talking about the episode articles that have 500 words of a plot summary. I mean the summaries that are usually a part of a wikitable. — WylieCoyote (talk) 21:01, 6 April 2012 (UTC)

Summaries like those in The X-Files (season 1) or The Simpsons (season 1)? Those don't really need to be cited. If there's a handy source that you could cite it all to (for example, a book describing that season), then there's no harm in that; but it's not necessary. GRAPPLE X 21:04, 6 April 2012 (UTC)

GRAPPLE, YES! Those kinds of summaries! Mine were for upcoming episodes of different shows. I understand that past ones don't need them since we know what happened, but was curious if future ones do. I try to be as concise as possible too, but I have seen some there were crazily long. And most future summaries from actual websites can be found within the ref-links for the episode names/dates too. So that's why I was scratching my head about it. — WylieCoyote (talk) 21:22, 6 April 2012 (UTC)

The summaries in question are summaries of unaired episodes for which he was reverted, and at least one that I reverted was also a copyvio taken from a CBS press release posted on Futon Critic and a couple other sites. This one was also added before summaries for at least two or three other episodes, and it was reasonable to expect that they a) be sourced and b) not be a copyright violation under the circumstances. --Drmargi (talk) 21:21, 6 April 2012 (UTC)

Drmargi, I understand about copyvio. This topic is about having to source future summaries. Thanks. — WylieCoyote (talk) 21:25, 6 April 2012 (UTC)

And If you read what I wrote carefully, you'll see that's what I address. It doesn't alter the fact that there was also a copyright violation, an issue which makes sourcing even more critical. --Drmargi (talk) 21:42, 6 April 2012 (UTC)

Upcoming episodes need to be sourced, because we obviously cannot view and episode that has not aired. Once it has aired, then the episode itself becomes the source and we don't need a citation specifically for it. But, future episodes always need sources.  BIGNOLE  (Contact me) 21:28, 6 April 2012 (UTC)

Alrighty, then as I stated to Drmargi on another talkpage, some copy-editors have a lot of work to do! I'll try to keep an eye out myself, but just don't have the time to fix all that I come across. — WylieCoyote (talk) 21:32, 6 April 2012 (UTC)

And that may very well be, and I don't believe anyone has asked you to check or fix every summary you come across. But there's a dandy essay somewhere about the fact someone having already done it isn't a reason to do it again, which was the point I was endeavoring to make. --Drmargi (talk) 21:42, 6 April 2012 (UTC)

Point taken. Which is why I commented in retrospect below. — WylieCoyote (talk) 21:44, 6 April 2012 (UTC)

(edit conflict)

That raises an issue though. As long as nothing OR-ish is included, the source of "the episode" is enough if redundant.

That said, I think I found the points in contention: and .

And to be blunt: The crystal ball/TV Guide regurgitation does not belong. Those episodes are not due to air until mid-May, I got the impression you were talking about episode already aired. Anything related to an unaired episode needs sourcing. Period. A synopsis should never be written as an enticement to watch the show, which is what you added. That is leaving an unanswered question. A synopsis of an unaired ep is still likely to be removed as a breach of NFCC. AussieLegend and Drmargi made a good call and the material can wait for the 16th of May.

- J Greb (talk) 21:31, 6 April 2012 (UTC)

Thanks to all that have responded! — WylieCoyote (talk) 21:32, 6 April 2012 (UTC)

J Greb, actually, in retrospect, that ("A synopsis should never be written as an enticement to watch the show") DOES makes sense. Thanks. — WylieCoyote (talk) 21:36, 6 April 2012 (UTC)

I normally try to keep things in the present or past tense in any of my articles, unless something "production-related" is mentioned like "Season X has been approved." And yes, those additions are sourced. — WylieCoyote (talk) 21:41, 6 April 2012 (UTC)

I think I was just caught up in the new movies, tv episodes, etc. coming up which is what started the finale summaries today. Lesson learned. - WylieCoyote (talk) 21:47, 6 April 2012 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/List of fictional supercouples

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List of The Walking Dead (TV series) characters

The page List of The Walking Dead (TV Series) characters is practically a duplicate of List of The Walking Dead (TV series) characters. The only difference in the title, is the capitalization of the word "series", and per Misplaced Pages policy it should NOT be capitalized. Since both lists are large and may have had different information added to them, they should be merged instead of doing a simple redirect, so that no original information is missed. Fortdj33 (talk) 20:21, 9 April 2012 (UTC)

• This is a simple case of WP:cut-and-paste; there is no need to discuss this further, as things are quickly resolved. --George Ho (talk) 21:00, 9 April 2012 (UTC)

Proposal to add task forces for the project

The WikiProject Cartoon Network was not active after the project was started by Driveus. Also, I have a felling tha WP:NICK is no longer active any more. Since I converted Cartoon Network, Family Guy, Adult Swim and SpongeBob SquarePants WikiProjects into work groups of WikiProject Animation, and I don't think very not active. I would suggest convert into task forces into this project. Any comments? JJ98 (Talk / Contributions) 11:23, 10 April 2012 (UTC)

Name when each season was filmed.

I do not want to sound too demanding, but That 70s show aired in 1998 which was such a long time ago. It even aired in many old years like 1999-2006. I just want somebody to put when each season was filmed so I can know what old year each season was created in. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.186.238.19 (talk) 02:59, 11 April 2012 (UTC)

List of That '70s Show episodes (season 1) - "The first season of That '70s Show, an American television series, began August 23, 1998, and ended on July 26, 1999". Other seasons give their relevant dates too. GRAPPLE X 03:24, 11 April 2012 (UTC)

I don't want to know when each season aired. I would like it if somebody told me when each season was FILMED please.

Television episodes generally begin filming just a few weeks before they're due to be aired. Subtract a month at most from those dates and you'll have a likely filming schedule. Anything more specific than that, and you go find it. GRAPPLE X

Thank you for giving me that information. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Peta8 (talk • contribs) 05:22, 11 April 2012 (UTC)

Star Wars tv documentary AFD

Nominated 2 documentaries of star wars. Which seems to be mainly a weak keep for small out of context info. It would be great if it could have larger scope. Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/The Making of Star Wars and Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/SP FX: The Empire Strikes Back.Lucia Black (talk) 06:53, 12 April 2012 (UTC)

Infobox screenshot

I am being challenged on a WP:NFCC screenshot use for an infobox at Misplaced Pages:Files_for_deletion/2012_April_15#File:Pilot_.28The_Cosby_Show.29_monopoly_lesson.png. I don't understand why.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 13:27, 15 April 2012 (UTC)

Copyviols in CSI: Crime Scene Investigation (season 9)

I inform the project of the removal of a series of plots in CSI: Crime Scene Investigation (season 9) that were copyviols from major websites such as The Futon Critic, TV.com or TV Guide. --RanZag (talk) 16:53, 17 April 2012 (UTC)

Persian Music Channel

Hello.
I noticed that this voice has the same text of www.pmc.tv and I started the procedure for the copyright violation on 3th April. 8 days after, the User:Pmcwebmaster (casually, a nickname that remember the channel) revert the page, removing the template.

Today I noticed that the voice has this section:
Link for Copyright Permission http://www.pmc.tv/?page_id=1377

Well, in that link there isn't any permission but only a link at the en.wiki page of the channel.

The voice is also NNPOV.

Can someone explain me of how I can do to terminate this situation? --Gce (talk) 22:12, 17 April 2012 (UTC)

Convenience links (I can't handle this issue at the moment): User:Gce flags the PMC article as a copyvio and informs User:Pmcwebmaster. User:Pmcwebmaster then replies to some concerns on his talk page and undoes the copyvio flag. – sgeureka 08:22, 18 April 2012 (UTC)

List of most watched television broadcasts

Can someone take a look at the article with a view to fixing the tables?

The section USA 1950s seems to have been messed up by a more recent table. I did take a look but cannot work out where the problem is coming from. Chaosdruid (talk) 01:16, 19 April 2012 (UTC)

Highbeam research on needed episodes

We have slowly chipped away at the most acclaimed television episodes without articles. Recently, hundreds of wikipedians received Highbeam accounts. With this new resource a lot of subjects can be researched quite freely. For example, I recently created "Hearts and Souls" exclusively using Highbeam. The following episode that that won at least two major best director or best screenplay recognitions remain to be created. In addition, numerous episodes from TV Guide's 100 Greatest Episodes of All-Time remain.

Drama

"Cop" Lou Grant (1979/1980) DGA-Directing, Emmy-Directing, Emmy-Writing

"All God's Children" I'll Fly Away (1991/1992) DGA-Directing, Emmy-Directing

"Therapy" thirtysomething (1988) WGA-Writing, DGA-Directing

"Pilot" thirtysomething (1988/1989) DGA-Directing, WGA-Writing

"Trial By Fury" Hill Street Blues (1983) WGA-Writing, Emmy-Writing

"Life in the Minors" Hill Street Blues (1983) DGA-Directing, Emmy-Directing

"Prisoner" Lou Grant (1978) DGA-Directing, WGA-Writing

"The Madman" The Defenders (1963) Emmy-Directing, Emmy-Writing

"The People Next Door" CBS Playhouse (1969) Emmy-Directing, Emmy-Writing

"Who Do You Kill?" East Side/West Side (1964) WGA-Writing, Emmy-Directing

Comedy

"The Matchmaker" Frasier (1995) DGA-Directing, WGA-Writing, Emmy-Directing

"Flip" The Larry Sanders Show (1998) Emmy-Directing, Emmy-Writing

"Dear Sigmund" M*A*S*H (1976) DGA-Directing, WGA-Writing, Emmy-Directing

"Brown Like Me" Murphy Brown (1989/1990) DGA-Directing, WGA-Writing

"Uh-Oh - Part II" Murphy Brown (1991/1992) DGA-Directing, WGA-Writing

"Showdown - Part 2" Cheers (1983) DGA-Directing, Emmy-Directing

"Isn't It Romantic?" The Golden Girls (1986/1987) DGA-Directing, Emmy-Directing

See our progress on important episodes and seasons at Misplaced Pages:EPISODE#Important articles to be created.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 03:06, 20 April 2012 (UTC)

Dancing with the stars line up for 2013

How does one vote to choose who they would like to be on the show for 2013, My friends and I would like to see Richard Simmons on the show. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.56.60.23 (talk) 15:48, 25 April 2012 (UTC)

WikiProject proposal for Must See TV

I have created Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Council/Proposals/NBC's Must See TV as a proposal of either a Project or a task force for shows from Must See TV and Comedy Night Done Right. Please join in discussion. --George Ho (talk) 19:10, 26 April 2012 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Seinfeld

Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Seinfeld (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Is anybody here enthusiastic enough to turn this inactive WikiProject into a WP:task force? --George Ho (talk) 22:05, 26 April 2012 (UTC)

Talk:Woody Interruptus#Merger discussion

Should this article be merged into List of Cheers episodes#ep207? Please click above for discussion. --George Ho (talk) 07:13, 28 April 2012 (UTC)

List of Friends episodes

I noticed today that there had been some rather peculiar edits to List of Friends episodes, replacing transclusions from season articles with raw tables using some formatting that, to be honest, I haven't seen used at any TV article that I've edited. Assuming that it was the work of a misguided editor, as often happens, I started restoring the article to its transcluded format, but received this message on my talk page. I don't agree that transclusion has been discouraged at the featured list discussion, unless I've read something incorrectly, but the nomination, if successful, will set precedents that we will be expected to follow. Of particular note is the non-transclusion of season article episode lists, which will result in duplication errors. Not transcluding the season episode lists really means there should be no episode lists in the season articles, which means content for individual seasons will be in at least two places, whereas at the moment all is generally in the season article and shared with the main list. The changes made to List of Friends episodes also include complicated coding that is going to be difficult to follow, especially for new editors. Some season articles simply won't need to exist. {{Episode list}} currently avoids the need for this. It also adds an enormous amount of content to the episode list article. Without any episode summaries List of Friends episodes has increased in size from 14,184 bytes on 1 March 2012, to 82,569 bytes with this edit. Also to be noted is de-bolding of episode titles, which will require changes to {{Episode list}}. I think this featured list discussion is something that requires involvement by members of this project. --AussieLegend (talk) 14:23, 28 April 2012 (UTC)

1. Jul 2004 to Apr 2006
2. Apr 2006 to Sep 2006
3. Sep 2006 to Dec 2006
4. Dec 2006 to Jan 2007
5. Jan 2007 to Mar 2007
6. Mar 2007 to Sep 2007
7. Oct 2007 to Dec 2007
8. Jan 2008 to Mar 2008
9. Apr 2008 to Sep 2008
10. Oct 2008 to Apr 2009
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