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Ouch! I followed a link to the deletion discussion on the Sar template. Saw that there was a clear consensus to delete, and noticed the button that said "Close - delete", so pressed it, thinking that would automatically close the discussion as a delete, and also delete the template. There then followed a series of stumbles as I realised what I had done was wrong, and I have been trying to sort it out, becoming embarrassingly aware as I have done so that I have not been following procedure and that I am in out of my depth. I went round removing the template from pages without realising the impact of that. I have now undeleted the template and listed it on the ]. I will also go round replacing the template on the pages I removed it. Is there anything else I need to do, or can you experts now take over and sort it out? ''']''' ''']''' 12:55, 18 April 2012 (UTC) Ouch! I followed a link to the deletion discussion on the Sar template. Saw that there was a clear consensus to delete, and noticed the button that said "Close - delete", so pressed it, thinking that would automatically close the discussion as a delete, and also delete the template. There then followed a series of stumbles as I realised what I had done was wrong, and I have been trying to sort it out, becoming embarrassingly aware as I have done so that I have not been following procedure and that I am in out of my depth. I went round removing the template from pages without realising the impact of that. I have now undeleted the template and listed it on the ]. I will also go round replacing the template on the pages I removed it. Is there anything else I need to do, or can you experts now take over and sort it out? ''']''' ''']''' 12:55, 18 April 2012 (UTC)
: It looks like it has now been orphaned by a few different editors. I checked your edits, and subsequent fixes, and it looks like you didn't cause any major problems. Thanks for letting me know! ] ] 04:11, 20 April 2012 (UTC) : It looks like it has now been orphaned by a few different editors. I checked your edits, and subsequent fixes, and it looks like you didn't cause any major problems. Thanks for letting me know! ] ] 04:11, 20 April 2012 (UTC)

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You deleted this template following a discussion by two participants.

This template was created as the result of extensive discussion by the Classical Music project, which you can review ]. The editor nominating the template for deletion has consistently opposed the consensus achieved during that discussion, and made this nomination without informing anyone on the project. Naturally, everyone on the project - including those who are not in complete agreement with the consensus (including myself) - is very upset with this act of subterfuge. You can read the discussion on the matter ].

I am asking you to reinstate the template, and perhaps send a reprimand to the nominator for this underhanded method of dealing with a sensitive issue. I make this request prior to submitting a request for deletion review.

Thank you,
--] (]) 04:22, 20 April 2012 (UTC)

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why???

Yo dude/chicka why did you get rid of this page?!?!?! :3 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.250.212.148 (talk) 21:31, 4 April 2012 (UTC)

Which page? Plastikspork ―Œ 18:33, 8 April 2012 (UTC)

Template:College coach infobox listed at Redirects for discussion

An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Template:College coach infobox. Since you had some involvement with the Template:College coach infobox redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion (if you have not already done so). Magioladitis (talk) 07:38, 5 April 2012 (UTC)

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Hello Plastikspork. I am currently conducting a study on the dispute resolution processes on the English Misplaced Pages, in the hope that the results will help improve these processes in the future. Whether you have used dispute resolution a little or a lot, now we need to know about your experience. The survey takes around five minutes, and the information you provide will not be shared with third parties other than to assist in analyzing the results of the survey. No personally identifiable information will be released.

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You are receiving this invitation because you have had some activity in dispute resolution over the past year. For more information, please see the associated research page. Steven Zhang 01:07, 6 April 2012 (UTC)

Template:Infobox record label - image parameters

Could I trouble you to look at Template talk:Infobox record label#Image parameters, please? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 13:59, 6 April 2012 (UTC)

It looks like this has been resolved. Thanks! Plastikspork ―Œ 18:33, 8 April 2012 (UTC)

Css Image Crop template still displaying warning text on live pages

Hi Plastikspork

Regarding the templates for discussion final result of KEEP for the template Css Image Crop (see deletion discussion here):

Although this Css Image Crop template is going be kept now, the pages that use this template are still displaying the (rather ugly) warning text of "The template below (Css Image Crop) is being considered for deletion. See templates for discussion to help reach a consensus" in each image.

View the images in the lower half of this live article to see what I mean.

This warning text needs to be removed from the Css Image Crop template now, by somebody who knows how to remove it.

I don't know how to do this myself. Drgao (talk) 16:25, 6 April 2012 (UTC)

it is probably a problem with your cache or the wikipedia cache, since it was removed here. try opening the article, making no changes, then clicking on "save" and see if it goes away for you. Frietjes (talk) 17:09, 6 April 2012 (UTC)
Yes, that was probably it. Thank you for sorting it out! Plastikspork ―Œ 18:32, 8 April 2012 (UTC)

Problems with an editor

could you please look at the Eurovision templates and for example, this revert? all I did was correct the parameter order, replace the small tags with css, and remove the spurious newlines. now, this editor is basically threatening to have me blocked. Frietjes (talk) 19:12, 6 April 2012 (UTC)

They're a strange lot over at WP:ESC. I once made a constructive comment to some discussion (not at WT:ESC but a talk page within their remit) to which I added a lighthearted aside. My entire post was reverted as "trolling". When I asked at the reverting editor's user talk: for an explaination, several others jumped in with a "stay off our turf" attitude. My satisfaction here is that the very last one to comment - some 48 hours after my own last post - urged me to read WP:LASTWORD. I probably only went there in the first place because somebody had asked for template help. --Redrose64 (talk) 20:07, 6 April 2012 (UTC)
You may wish to know that I never threatened Frietjes (talk · contribs) with blocks. I merely advised the user that I was aware of his recent block for en-mass editing across templates unrelated to WP:ESC; and that he should be cautious as other editors who where previously involved with that sanction, may see this current behaviour as a continuation of template disruption. Is it a crime now to offer precaution advice to fellow editors? In regards to the templates, a lengthy debate at WT:ESC took place over several weeks regarding the structure of templates used on the project, and we looked into ways to simplify them. A new format design was agreed upon, and a sought permission from a senior member of the project if I would be allowed to assist in the rollout exercise. When Frietjes started to make alterations, I quickly restored things back, and politely asked the user for an explanation, along with inviting them to engage in the debate at ] putting forward their ideas if necessary. The user refused to accept the invite, and just went ahead re-reverting, which correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm sure such behaviour is a no-no in the eyes of Misplaced Pages. Engaging in discussion is the ideal method, to prevent edit warring. I have mentioned the recent changes that Frietjes made to CT Cooper (talk · contribs) and even he agreed that the user should have engaged in discussion before making mass-edits on something that had been overwhelmingly agreed on via consensus at the project talk page. WesleyMouse 20:48, 6 April 2012 (UTC)
After looking through the edit history, it looks like there was some misunderstanding in what Frietjes was doing. I will add some comments on your talk page, since there are some related comments by WOSlinker there. Thanks! Plastikspork ―Œ 18:31, 8 April 2012 (UTC)
Projects do not have "senior members", and no-one has the right to grant, or deny, permission for any editing on Misplaced Pages. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 19:08, 10 April 2012 (UTC)
In response to Andy Mabbett: I know projects don't have "senior members" and that "no-one has the right to grant, or deny, permission for any editing on Misplaced Pages". I referred to CT Cooper (talk · contribs) as "senior member" because he has been a part of the project a lot longer than I have; which in retrospect, makes him more senior than I in terms of the project - plus the fact he is also an administrator, to who I hold much respect for. And as for seeking permission; the templates saga was one that had gone on for many, many weeks. After a conclusion had been reached, I knew that creating well over 150 templates would be a lengthy task, and was offering my assistance so that the task could be completed sooner. I am the kind of person who would rather ask first, before jumping in - as that is considered polite and civil. Anyhow, the whole things has been resolved now. So I bid you good day, and happy editing. Thank you to WOSlinker, and Plastikspork for the assistance along the way, it has been very much appreciated. WesleyMouse 21:09, 10 April 2012 (UTC)

Template:Capitalization

Hi there. You recently deleted that template, but there is a related category, Category:Pages with several capitalization mistakes, that was included in its discussion. The category is only populated by articles tagged with that template, and will now remain empty. I wasn't sure if there was a plan to have the category populated by using the for=capitalization parameter for the copy edit tag though. Thanks for your help. Torchiest edits 23:08, 8 April 2012 (UTC)

Yes, thank you for the reminder, I deleted about a dozen today, and I am now in the cleanup phase. Plastikspork ―Œ 23:10, 8 April 2012 (UTC)
Okay, cool, thanks for the update. Torchiest edits 01:16, 9 April 2012 (UTC)

Mountain infoboxes

Is this request something you might be able to help with, please? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 18:49, 10 April 2012 (UTC)

Abuse Filter on the Article Feedback Tool

Hey there :). You're being contacted because you're an edit filter manager, At the moment, we're developing Version 5 of the Article Feedback Tool, which you may or may not have heard about. If you haven't; for the first time, this will involve a free-text box where readers can submit comments :). Obviously, there's going to be junk, and we want to minimise that junk. To do so, we're working the Abuse Filter into the tool.

For this to work, we need people to write and maintain filters. I'd be very grateful if you could take a look at the discussion here and the attached docs, and comment and contribute! Thanks :). Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 18:28, 17 April 2012 (UTC)

Template:Non-administrator observation

Hiya Plastikspork,

I don't have any problems with the closure of Misplaced Pages:Templates for discussion/Log/2012 April 9#Template:Non-administrator observation as "no consensus", but I'd be interested in hearing more about your reasons for that closure. I'm considering nominating it again, mostly because it's been nominated twice now and received a "no consensus" close both times, with the rationals provided during both previous MFD's closely mirroring one another. So, a more detailed analysis behind your closure yesterday may be helpful in providing some more direction. Thanks!
— V = IR (Talk • Contribs) 20:34, 17 April 2012 (UTC)

ps: see Template talk:Non-administrator observation#What to do with this template as well.
— V = IR (Talk • Contribs) 20:45, 17 April 2012 (UTC)

I felt as though there were two basic arguments (1) comments from administrators carry no more weight than non-administrators and (2) there are some places on WP where only administrators can carry out certain actions, and it may be helpful for someone to mark his/her own comment a "non-administrator observation". I felt as though both of these points were valid, and well argued. One of the key points central to the second argument was that the marking of a comment is voluntary and self-marked. Marking another editors comment could be construed as belittling. If you want me to add these comments to my closing comments, I can certainly do so. You should certainly feel free to renominate it if you want, since there was no consensus. Thanks! Plastikspork ―Œ 00:38, 18 April 2012 (UTC)

Eurovision template fixes

Hi Plastikspork, Just a quick note to let you know all the templates have been finished, and the rollout exercise completed. You did mention that you would run a bot to iron out any minor technical error within them. Please click on this link to see a full list of the new templates that have been created. Regards - WesleyMouse 00:56, 18 April 2012 (UTC)

Great. I will try to run the bot this weekend. Thanks! Plastikspork ―Œ 04:11, 20 April 2012 (UTC)

Template:Sar

Ouch! I followed a link to the deletion discussion on the Sar template. Saw that there was a clear consensus to delete, and noticed the button that said "Close - delete", so pressed it, thinking that would automatically close the discussion as a delete, and also delete the template. There then followed a series of stumbles as I realised what I had done was wrong, and I have been trying to sort it out, becoming embarrassingly aware as I have done so that I have not been following procedure and that I am in out of my depth. I went round removing the template from pages without realising the impact of that. I have now undeleted the template and listed it on the holding cell. I will also go round replacing the template on the pages I removed it. Is there anything else I need to do, or can you experts now take over and sort it out? SilkTork 12:55, 18 April 2012 (UTC)

It looks like it has now been orphaned by a few different editors. I checked your edits, and subsequent fixes, and it looks like you didn't cause any major problems. Thanks for letting me know! Plastikspork ―Œ 04:11, 20 April 2012 (UTC)

Template:Infobox classical composer

You deleted this template following a discussion by two participants.

This template was created as the result of extensive discussion by the Classical Music project, which you can review here. The editor nominating the template for deletion has consistently opposed the consensus achieved during that discussion, and made this nomination without informing anyone on the project. Naturally, everyone on the project - including those who are not in complete agreement with the consensus (including myself) - is very upset with this act of subterfuge. You can read the discussion on the matter here.

I am asking you to reinstate the template, and perhaps send a reprimand to the nominator for this underhanded method of dealing with a sensitive issue. I make this request prior to submitting a request for deletion review.

Thank you, --Ravpapa (talk) 04:22, 20 April 2012 (UTC)

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